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2023-24 Serie A Recap & Team of the Season - Ep. 228 · The Calcio Guys

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Another city. As season has come and gone, you know, on the
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couch of Guys season six that we just completed, just myself, Nicko listening
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Johanno, tonight is going it's going good. We're missing one more, but
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we're gonna have to do without him for for now. Johnny hearing this,
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Uh yeah, exactly, he's here in spirit. If you listen to this,
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Johnny, we love you, but uh no, Guys Sey Team,
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the seasons, Culture, Guys Edition Recap, round up the whole nine.
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So I'm happy to be here. Yeah, and we're actually recording two episodes
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tonight, so you're gonna hear this one first. We're gonna publish this one
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first episode two twenty eight, and then Alessandro Raffa is gonna come on after
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we've done this episode two twenty nine. We'll publish that a couple of days
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later. So if you're listening to this, stay tuned for episode two twenty
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nine. We'll talk some inter we'll talk some on Zuti Call up list.
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I'm super excited for the Euros. It's bringing back some good memories from three
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years ago, like we were here, you know, doing the same thing
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talking, you know, giving all these previous three years ago. But and
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also Enter won of the Scudetto three years ago, Adri. So you know,
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maybe it's uh maybe you know, maybe Italy will run it back,
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but we'll see, you know. I don't know if you remember when we
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recorded the episode on August, on August fourteenth, twenty twenty three, when
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we did our season preview. I don't know if you remember who we gave
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as our top four predictions, our Scudetto predictions. You know, but we
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have good ball knowledge because if you look at if you listen that back to
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that episode, which you could listen still on speaker, off i iTunes,
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Google podcasts, wherever you listen to your podcast, some of our predictions were
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pretty correct, Adrian, Uh, except for years except for your Yeah mine
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rough, I actually have the clip here. So we gave her top four.
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So me and Janny both said inter as as winners. Uh, easier
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you took. You took a different path for me. I'm probably still sticking
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with, you know, the Milan inter Napoly and lots of top four.
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I'm just not setting stone how I want to see that place. Well,
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obviously I want to see that on first, but how they're actually gonna be
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placed. It remains to be seen for me. For me, I'm probably
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still sticking with you know, so there you had it wrong, wrong,
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wrong, wrong wrong wrong, Melon intern said melon Internapoli And lastly was at
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it Yeah yeah or melon not be enter intersecond? Yeah yeah, I into
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So I'm pretty sure what it was, guys, I don't know what I
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was thinking. I it wasn't my year. It wasn't my year. This
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year it was pretty clear. I mean I got two, but you know,
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fifty percent but still not a passing grade on the wrong position though,
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yeah, not by that. It's all dirty And obviously Watchhill didn't didn't do
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what I thought they could have done, which I don't know. I in
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the beginning, I kind of liked where they were headed and it seemed to
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go a different route. So and same thing for not Boys. So I'm
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gonna have to eat it for this one. But I'm hoping for next year
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to be better. Uh. Credit credit to Jenny though, because he always
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he's always the best predictor. Honestly, if you listen, you can listen
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back to our previous two hundred and twenty seven podcasts. Whatever he says,
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it goes it's it's the truth because he always has these uh it seems like
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it's outlindish claims at first, and then and then you look Johnny. It's
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like like Johnny is like a unicorn, like you know what I mean,
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Like he Liketra Daminis. We call him Johnnis. How do we say?
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But no, Johnny always hits something on the head. If it be Torino
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way back when, if it be you know, Bremer, uh, if
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it be, the list goes on for his Kieza. Of course, his
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his predictions are always not the not the favorites when they first come out.
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But later on, if you go back to the archives and you and you
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go fishing for for those for those archives and those receipts, Johnny is there
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with with the best, the best predictions. So yeah, I think that
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inters managed to keep what worked for them and got rid of what wasn't working
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for them. The whole uh, the whole freaking lukaku Zaka saga. You
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know, like that's that's problematic on its own. But my personal opinion,
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like if if he's gone, it's that's a bit of a headache out of
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the room. Uh. I think they already seem to have found their replacement.
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So, uh so, I just want to play other clips. I
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was from our our you know, preview episode back in August. I want
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to play other other Johnny predictions from August. Listen to they I don't know,
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Johnny, I'll want you well first on this. I don't don't.
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I don't see I don't see the Lorente sacking Rigarcia like in the season,
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unless like he really sabotages the team and they're like looking at the lower half,
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lower part of the top ten. Atlanta though, would be the sleeper
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pick. Though, Atlanta would be the team that a lot of teams are
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gonna have to watch out for. They've been adding a lot, you know,
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they like some some key editions. I really am excited to see what
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Scamaka can do in the league. Johnny believable. He gets it on the
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head every single time, you know, called out Atalanta's a sleeper pick for
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the top four. Called out Garcia pretty much predicted exactly how he was gonna
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get fired, you know, bottom half of the table. He sabotages the
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team and he gets fired. Yeah, and this is if you listen back
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to our our our our previous episode, this is actually my favorite part,
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and it's right at the end of the episode too. It's kind of a
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joking matter to on the on the shirts this year for Bologne. I think
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we're gonna all pull for them. It kind of reminds me of a vintage
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Montreal Impact shirt from the from the nineties. And they they look clean,
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those jerseys, and maybe I'll have to order one. Maybe they're Everyone's underdog.
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Shut out Nick Deanni, shout out Nick Dyani. Indeed they were in
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everyone the underdog this year. And as we get into our Team of the
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Season predictions, you know, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of non
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predictions Team of the Season nominations. There's gonna be a lot of Bolognan talk.
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But easy looking back on on some of those clips from what uh nine
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months ago, you know, looking back on the season, like what what
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did you make this whole city as season? No craziness, Like we always
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say it, guys, it's it's it's never. It's never kind of what
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you think it is, even unless you're Johnny Delkley and then you have and
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you know something that everybody else doesn't. But no, like listen from from
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year to year, Uh, you know, we've been We've been fortunate enough
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to see you know, different city seasons with different results, different champions.
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Uh you know, the last is it the last four years we've had the
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last five years, we've had four different champions, well, Inter winning twice.
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But uh, you know, with with with juve To to Inter,
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to Milan, to Napoli and now back to Inter. It's it's uh,
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you know, it's it's finally back to Citi I in terms of competitiveness and
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and uh, you never can really predict what's going to go on. It's
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been a hell of a hell of a season. Uh you know obviously,
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you know, Inter kind of pulled the Knaplo last year, kind of pulling
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away when it when it mattered most later on in the season and kind of
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run away with the Scudetto. And you know, fair point to them.
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We We've said it time and time again on the show. As much as
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it pains as to say we uh you know, we give we give the
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credit there. And you know, you know, even in Europe, I
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mean, uh, you know, Atlanta doing it winning winning, Uh,
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you know, Europa League not only an underdog, I guess in in the
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league but even an underdog in Europe, you know, coming home with a
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trophy, uh, you know, the first ever for them in Europe,
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and Gaspardini and and all that. So I guess the biggest surprise was obviously
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Bonna, as we've we've said countless time on on the podcast, you know,
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just what they've been able to do. And also now coming now to
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the end of the season, just the relegation battle like this weekend was crazy.
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You know, we saw we saw you know, uh, we saw
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joy and then we saw tears uh you know, in the same in the
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same match, and that would be in the game frozen on going down alongside
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us well and and Sonitana. So it's it's been up and up and down
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year. I think for our teams. Uh you know that that we support,
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it's been not the best of years, but again something to build off
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of and hopeful for for the future. But yeah, every every I don't
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know, for me, every season is an exciting one. Cann't can't wait
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to get into the groups of things. Uh. It gives us content to
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talk about and to to post about and and to to grow with with our
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socials. So yeah, man just could have asked for a better ending,
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but I guess we have to wait another year for that, and just it's
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been a great year overall. Yeah, I mean, I think sorry this
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and is is just obviously besides inter you know, running away with the Bologna,
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the field, good the field, good story. You know, first
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time in the Champions League since what the sixties was sixty one, I think
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it was just one exactly, And so you know, this is a team
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that obviously has a connection to Montreal. You know, it's it's good to
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see on one hand, we're happy for Joey spot on his and his is
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basically his main team now. And then on the other hand, as CF
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Montreal fans, it's it's frustrating because he neglects this team here in Montreal.
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So it's it's also mixed feelings about that situation if you're a you know,
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Montreal fan, because you see success on one side, you're like, hey,
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let's do that here too. You know, obviously we're not making the
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Champions League at Montreal, but let's go in and win the COCKCAF Champions League
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that we were close to nine years ago. Anyways, I digress, And
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obviously, as the UA have had one thing I did say in the in
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the episode back in August, I said, it's gonna be a boring season
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as U a fan, uh with without obviously without Europe, but I think
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overall it was. I mean, it was an interesting season, but you
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know, it's not once to remember. I'm excited for next season. Whoever
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the coach may be at this point looking like Manta, but you know,
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Champions League, h They're gonna be playing the Super Kopa Club World Cup at
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the end of the next season. I don't have that much expectation in terms
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of trophies, but it's just gonna be fun to take part in those competitions
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again, especially Champions League, and you know for other Italian teams and Champions
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League. This new format, we'll see how it goes. Uh yeah,
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that's it. Yeah, we might as well move on to our team this
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season, Adrie. Uh, I don't know. Let's go position by position.
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We'll start with our goalten. Yeah, I know Johnny sente Is.
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I think, well, I'll put it up on the screen, but we'll
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also we'll also go through his goalkeeper. I mean he took Summer. I
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took Somemmer, who did you? And I took summer as well. Yeah
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you're not hopefully for Yeah, unanimous there, guys, I think you know
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and and I know many people were going bananas on uh the seas. Uh,
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you know, position by position, m v p s, you know,
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best goalie, you know, best midfield, the best attacker, best
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young player, League MVP, Coach of the Year, all that stuff.
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I'm pretty sure they give it to THEO if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
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for for for best, for best keeper again, maybe one of the honorable
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mentions down the list. I know you Putavich. I think he was second
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in in clean sheets if I if I saw that exactly. Yeah, you
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know, scroop Ski had had a decent year, you know there there was
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there was other keepers that had you know, obviously decent years. But unanimous.
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I think it's summer. Uh, new club, new league, fit
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right in like a glove, didn't miss a beat, nineteen clean sheets.
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I mean what more could you ask? I mean, Provodel had had a
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hell of a year. What was the last year with with the clean sheets?
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So wasn't you know, champion, But still I think summer, Yeah,
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there's unanimous. You want to take it away with your defenders. Yeah,
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so I have four defenders, and I think Johnny does as well.
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I believe you have three. If I'm a mistaken I think you want to
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have a three back. So for me my four defenders, I would have
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liked to have had a right back, left back, and two center backs.
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I have two left backs. It's the two best left backs in the
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league. People are gonna argue who's better, who's worse. For me,
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it's still Tails as the better one. But again, DeMarco, you say,
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DeMarco, it's not like you're talking. You know a different language.
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So for me and my defender slots, I have Tail and Demark go on
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the wing back slots or like left back, right back, and then I
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have in the middle between them. At center backs, I have Bastonian Bunjourno.
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I think you know, Bustoni always been, always been a reliable defender
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in the back, can get forward, has a has a hell of across
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as well. Defensively, he's pretty sound with that back line. And Borno,
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I think just had you know, a season that many I don't think
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many people expected Torino. I think that's where they finished ninth or tenth or
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whatever it was. They finished on the top half of the table, so
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decent for them, but I think was the standout. Hoping to see him
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get minutes in the Euros. I would like to see even that partnership maybe
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Bustonian bornou in that mix of center backs. So just from the tackles.
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Uh, you know that he's had that he had off out the all throughout
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the year. He Uh, I don't think he barely missed the match again,
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mister reliable for Torino and for that, I'm taking bon Jorno to round
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up the defense for me, bonjar Uh. I know Johnny also took him.
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Uh Nahann Perez to Ornandos and Frederico de Marco, so pretty similar on
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on his part and for me, yeah, I did go through the back.
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I just went three, you know, center backs. I was thinking
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about uh bon Jordano, But you know you I figured Johnny took him.
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I didn't know you you actually took him. I when I first thought of
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him, I I thought, okay, this is gonna be a pretty unique
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uh you know, nomination for a Team of the season. And then you
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guys also saw saw that, you know, today was a game in the
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stats and Torino's defense, Uh, they surprised me. I didn't realize how
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just solid they were, you know, up there with some of the best,
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uh you know, defense in the league. Like I said, Milikovich
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Savis second in clean sheet so you know that's obviously he's a good goalkeeper,
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but that's also a shout out to his defense. You can't you could have
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the best goalkeeper in the in the world, but if you don't have a
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good defense, he's still gonna let in goals. But I went with Bastonian,
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California, calif Fiorti and Charby. Actually with Inter, I felt like
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with Inter the way they played the season. I think obviously they finished with
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the least amount of goals against. I know there was a lot of I
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wanna say hate against the Chaerbee in the past few years, but you know,
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after the Euros he kind of dipped in form, but I think this
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year he was really strong. He he just brought that veteran presence to Inter,
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and then Bastoni brought the young presence and then obviously, you know,
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I named Calafioti and him outstanding season for Bologna and you know you will be
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lucky if he ends up there next season. Uh So, and it's nice
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to see three Italian guys too on this list, three guys that are likely
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going to be in the Euros. So, uh, you know, I
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you know, when I, when I normally do these teams the seasons,
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I do more of a back three just because it is it is a bit
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harder for defenders. You know, obviously you could look at more stats like
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you know, tackles me or whatever. You don't want to just go by
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assisting goals because a defender wants to you know, they're supposed to defend,
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right, But these guys, these three guys for me, were you know,
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cut above the rest in terms of defense. But he shout out to
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Born as well. Yeah, moving on to the mid, I guess if
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you want to you want to start that? Uh yeah, sure, why
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not? So I'll so so I'll start with mine. So you're not gonna
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like this one Adrian rabel H and then obviously Goodminton hot kun and Okay,
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I kind of cheated here. I put the ballas as an attacking mid.
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He's technically forward, he's listened. I kind of cheated. I put him
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there. I think think he led the league in assistem If I'm mistaken.
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Dibala, I think yeah, intern Yeah, so you know, I felt
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like he's still he still deserved to be there. I'll you know, I'll
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score it a lot though. Yeah, he scored a lot. He's exactly.
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He almost had you know, it was almost a ten and ten season
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for him. So I felt like, you know, he was there even
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even if you look back at the City Player of the Month, I think
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he got one or two, uh, throughout the season, Rabbio he was.
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He's a player, he's a polarizing player. A lot of people like
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the shirt on him and you have a Twitter, but he plays his role
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fantastic with you. He's he's an absolute horse. He's running. He runs
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all over the place all the time. I personally love watching him, uh
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this season. And you know, just the fact that he was named the
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City Team the season as well, like he obviously didn't get the individual award,
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but in their team the season that they teamed up with with e A,
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he was on there. So you know, clearly someone knows and recognizes
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his talent. Meanwhile, there's a bunch of people from wood with Woodbridge,
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Ontario, who don't you know. So so I'm I'm throwing it in there
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just just just as a defense from from my friends on uve Twitter, So,
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uh he's in there. Liked Goodmanston fourteen goals for absolutely incredible season for
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Genoa. You know, they come back up to the City. They finished,
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I think it was eleventh if I'm if I remember correctly, they finished,
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so you know he yeah, exactly, So he's another player that you
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know, he was the leader there. God knows where he'll end up next
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season. I don't know if he'll cash in on him or or whatnot,
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but uh yeah, that's it for me. And then obviously can I can
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you know he ended up winning City Midfielder of the Season, so I think
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that's something. Again, every position group I had, at least one inter
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player goes to show they're the best team in the league. They won that,
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do you know, I think it would be unfair to have, you
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know, zero Inter midfielders. I even thought about Burrella, but just because
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he's he's he's he's so consistent year and in year out. But at the
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same time, you know, was he one of the best this season?
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Probably not, but he's just consistently good and he's been like that for what
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three four seasons. I feel when he joined Inter, was it it was
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before the season before really won the years, right, So it was twenty
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twenty. I'm not mistaken. Was it pandemic already? I remember if it
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was that, No, I was before that thing, right. Oh he's
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been with them since twenty nineteen. Wow, yeah, twenty eighteen. I
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was gonna say, yeah, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, I
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remember. I mean even with Kyge, I mean he was he was he
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was. He was touted as he was. He was touted as like the
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you know, the next upcoming star. And listen, he made that move,
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he made that jump, and I think it you know, well,
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I don't even think it has panned out for him, even though he's on
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there. I mean it has panned out for him. He has two Scudetti,
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uh, super Kopa, he has a euro to his name. You
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know, I think you're nailed on the head. Consistency is is his thing.
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I think he had two goals to assists. Not his flashiest of years
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in terms of numbers, but yeah, but is always it's kind of like
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mister reliable in the midfield. Uh, you know, you kind of always
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want him around. But I agree with you in terms of it was the
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quote unquote best maybe not but definitely consistent. I agree on that. You
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want to want to see Jenny's Jenny's mids, I don't have. I don't
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have Jennys in front of me, so I'll go let me just it was
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I know one of them, but I don't know the rest. Uh Uh
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Quodman saying Hakan and twin twin coupe binders, those are his three. Yeah.
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Uh so for me, I had two of those the same ones as
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well coop Miners as my first mid twelve goals. For him, I think
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about five six a sis if I'm mistaking in Seria. Uh. For a
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midfielder, it's it's it's pretty crazy, uh to get those types of numbers,
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and he kind of played a bit all over got rewarded with obviously the
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Europa League at the end, getting into top four. They still have They
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still have another game to play against Ardentina June second, which can weep frog
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Atlanta over you of it to get it into third place potentially if they get
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all three points. So successful season, you know. In terms of Atalanta's
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run, I think coup Miners had a big part of that. There's obvious,
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it's obvious when there's there's a links to him, you know, every
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every you know, every time there's a Mercato approaching summer, now winter,
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now back to summer that we're going into. Coop Miner's name has been around
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the rumor rumor mill quite a bit. I think it's with Merit. You
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know, he's he's, he's such a great player. Uh. And again
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we'll see if he stays at at Tanta. He's another one. Like I
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said, he's, he's he's potentially on the move. I don't know,
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but if he says Atlanta, I think it's great for him. Hopefully he
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can build off of this. You know. Twelve goals is like I said,
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nothing to nothing to laugh about in terms of uh, you know,
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as a midfielder. So shout out to Coop Miners. Uh, hot gun.
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Yeah. Again, not a fan of him obviously, Uh he was
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a pie one for Melon. But with with the Boo and Black, he's
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been, uh you know, he's been, you know, obviously an improved
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player. He's found the system that you know works for him, found the
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position that works for him. Uh, thirteen goals, I think it was
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for him in this in the city a uh with a three or four assists.
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So stats wise, you know, with the numbers, pretty pretty productive
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year. Like like you said that, he was voted Sadi as Midfield Midfielder
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of the Year, even though their their their selections were a bit over the
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place this year. I think that's one of the ones that they got that
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they got right, as much as it paints us to say, but no
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hot guns in there, and for me, I went so kind of like
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again a camera as well, and again I guess I kind of cheated too,
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but he did play there a couple of times in the year. People
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are gonna say it's a Homer pick, it's a bit of a bias pick,
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but I'm gonna go polic Twelve goals, eight assists in the city,
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you know, twenty twenty twenty points in the CIA. I forget what he
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had in in the other competitions, but he had. He had a healthy
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year, coming again from from from Chelsea. New league, new team,
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new system, new language, new tactics, knew everything and I think he
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like Summer. He pretty much fit in right away. He scored an opening
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match day against Bowna and he had pretty big moments throughout the year. I
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know people are gonna say, you know me, one season didn't reflect what
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their players did on the pitch. But I think there were certain players on
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on me one that that had a had a season above the rest. And
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I think Postage, you know, deserves to be in the in in the
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mix of it, you know, So I have him as my cam behind
25:23
uh sorry, in front of Hakun and Coop Miners. Yeah, I think
25:29
all of them product were productive in terms of goals, in terms of assists,
25:33
in terms of you know presence. These guys Unles they were injured,
25:37
they were in they were in the lineup, you know, weekend week out.
25:40
They're pretty much unplayable. So yeah, those are my three midfielder's cool
25:45
miners, how Khun and Pusage to round out, yeah, to round out
25:48
of theidfield. Lastly, up front for Johnny, he went for Dru Dibala,
25:56
so he put the ballas a forward. And and obviously the obvious one
26:02
for the three of us, we obviously have a lot Taro. That's a
26:06
given on every single team this season that anybody does on any podcast has to
26:11
be there. It's a m VP. I know that you know the city
26:17
their individual awards, we talk about this every year. Sometimes a player wins
26:22
let's say the m v P, but then in in their position, the
26:26
individual award it goes to someone else, and are always like, you know,
26:29
what the hell, Yeah, how can the MVP not to be the
26:32
best forward? You know? But it's the city they that's just what they
26:37
do. They don't give more than one award for a player, so I
26:41
guess it makes it fair. But at the same time, I think they
26:44
I think they should like, I don't know, it's tough. It's kind
26:48
of like, what was it the Cheeto the Cheeto year where he had he
26:52
should have been MVP. I like he when he matched he Wayne's record,
26:56
he got best obviously best at talker, which okay, that makes sense,
27:00
but I think you should have been League MVP. They gave it to I
27:03
think Ronaldo that year. I think they should have just like swapped it,
27:06
you know what I mean, Like like last what was the last season they
27:10
gave last season? Uh, it was verily one m v P and then
27:15
the best Young Player went and so and then and OMN won Best Forward Best
27:22
Forward. Yeah, so I don't know, it's technically called best striker,
27:26
so that you know, you can make more of an you know, it's
27:30
more of an argument. You know, whatever isn't exactly your your you know,
27:34
your typical number nine. But yeah, you know the fact that Dusan
27:38
one best striker this year when clearly Latar was the best striker, you won
27:45
twenty four goals, you know, Like, but I guess they kind of
27:49
devalues the award a bit. Yeah, they had to give the m v
27:52
P to something like to somebody, and I think if they were gonna go
27:56
put Lotaro best striker, who you're really going to put as m VP,
28:03
just give him both awards, give him both the words. No, I
28:06
agree, I agree, I agree, but I I did. Yeah,
28:08
No, it's tough. I don't know, I know, I know Voalvich
28:12
was what second? Was his second or third? No, I think the
28:17
second on on on the goal charts, right on the couple couple race.
28:22
With eighteen goals, I think that number looks good on paper. I think
28:29
that number looked better on paper than what it matched in terms of his performances
28:33
week in and week out, if that makes sense, Like, yeah,
28:37
he scored eighteen goals, but like if you stretch, if you will,
28:41
exactly if you have bunches. I don't know, guys, I mean,
28:45
Dudu had what fifteen fifteen fifteen goals, Osiman had fifteen goals that they were
28:51
right there too, but they're more impactful. I don't know. Listen,
28:55
it is what it is. We're not going to go crazy over it.
28:59
But Lataro definitely has to be in there. So Johnny had said Jidu and
29:06
baa yeah, yeah, And so I went, I went Zerxi uh La
29:15
Taro and I put Lookman there. I put Lukman there. I wanted to
29:19
give you know, I know this is city a team this season, but
29:22
the fact that he puts at the land on his back last week in the
29:26
Europa League Final amazing. He deserves it. He deserves it. He still
29:30
had ten goals for assists. You know, I was thinking, I was
29:33
thinking or Seleni. Then I looked at him. Up, ten goals to
29:36
assist Okay. Ten goals for assist is better than ten goals to assist Okay.
29:40
Three goals in the Europa League finals, better than no goals in the
29:42
Europa League final. So you know what, let me put Lookman there for
29:45
a trophy, no trophy, yeah, exactly, exactly. You know what,
29:49
he deserves it, absolutely amazing performance. I think, uh, the
29:53
only other players who have scored three goals in a European final I think was
29:59
Zi Dan Pooksa Poos, Who's who's guys and uh the Stefano from you know,
30:07
the old Real Madrid player. So for him to be mentioned amongst those
30:10
three other players is incredible. So you know what, Uh he deserves it,
30:15
you Adrian at your three forwards, no No three or three three?
30:19
I again I was debating because I had some honorable mentions, but I had
30:26
some you know this or that kind of selections where instead of Polich, I
30:32
was going to maybe put the bools, so for had the bow was another
30:33
shot there, I put him. Again, I don't, I don't think
30:37
it's I guess maybe it was would have been cheating to put him in at
30:40
the mid as as I can, but I think they're both interchangeable there,
30:44
so even lewis Ferguson. Not the stats, the stats weren't all there in
30:47
the midst but again just a presence. He was hell of a player for
30:52
Bownia as well this season, so yeah that was for that, but for
30:56
for forwards, yeah, Lato is the obvious one. Like we said,
31:00
twenty four goals, you know, best, best, best forward, MVP
31:03
of the league, whatever you want to call it. He was for me,
31:07
I'm putting Judu. I like I said, fifteen goals, Uh,
31:12
I think he had like eight assists too. I think he had like some
31:15
crazy Yeah, I'm pretty sure he had like seventy assists if I'm a mistaken
31:18
as well, Uh, clutch throughout the year for me one, Uh,
31:22
in all competitions pretty much had his farewell, you know, in AH in
31:30
a great way he scored, uh, you know, got his God,
31:33
his God to send off in the right way him Simon Kier obviously as well.
31:38
And I think they did that right and I was hopeful that they would
31:41
do that, and I'm glad they did. Uh. You know, I
31:45
think they all deserve that, even though people might have opinions about them or
31:48
you know, if it Bequier was a bit more of a minor piece.
31:53
But I think just his longevity with with the club and in this stretch was
31:56
was big And obviously people have emotions for him. So but in terms of
32:02
you do I think he was for an agent player kind of like Fabrio Quadiarella
32:07
back. You know, we see a couple of handful of seasons ago,
32:10
just aging aging like fine wine, is still scoring at a high level.
32:15
Uh, still being in the lineup pretty much week in week out. Uh
32:19
so yeah, as you do. For me, deserves it as another forward
32:23
and the last one. It's recency biased, but I think even though it
32:29
is a bit more recent. Uh, he in my opinion, still had
32:34
a good season statistically, he improved mentally throughout the season. I think it
32:39
was it was a grind. So I'm putting Scamaka as my last forward.
32:44
Uh. For me, it was a toss up between him, Uh and
32:46
you know zer Se. You know, if you want to go just by
32:52
stats, you know, the valvases of the world and maybe the means of
32:54
the world in terms of terms of goals. But I'm putting Scamaka. Uh
33:00
twelve goals in said yeah as well, Uh six and six in Europa League.
33:05
Uh trophy obviously Europa League trophy. He was, he was, He
33:08
was huge, got a couple of assists in all competitions as well. I
33:12
think he had an overall campaign could have been better. I think if he
33:16
had probably a better start. But again, it's not how you start,
33:19
it's how you finish. And uh, I think uh you know, Scamaka
33:22
was embodied that embody that saye. So we're hopeful for him to carry this
33:28
over to the two euros. He seems eager and he seems hungry. And
33:32
I think whatever was said about him in terms of uh, you know,
33:37
the outside noise, if it be Spelletti, if it be Spadini that told
33:39
him, hey, listen, you gotta wake the fuck up. He woke
33:43
up, and we hope he stays awake, uh you know, for for
33:46
another couple of months, until until we finished the euro So yeah, those
33:51
are those are my three paros. You do and uh scomakas gonn run it
33:54
out for me for for forwards. If you look at the kap race,
34:05
I was looking at this today, I'll I'll just pull it up. But
34:07
I'll bring up another topic first, regarding goals scored. Another thing from our
34:14
our first episode, Adrie, you asked over under fifteen goals on volvag how
34:22
many goals Volvage are scored over under fifteen? Listen to it? What I
34:25
have to say? Does he get double digit goals? Yeah? I think
34:30
he can still get double digit goals. I just I think he stays in
34:34
the teens. I don't think he's gonna get in the twenties, is what
34:36
I'm saying. Oh no, no, no, I would be shocked if
34:37
you gets it in the twenties. And I don't know if you who agree
34:39
or disagree on that. I say fifteen goals for Valvich, fifteen, which
34:45
I think we'll be fine. But from the amount of money they paid for
34:49
him, you need him, you need him in the Capukin race. But
34:52
I say under fifteen. So I said fifteen, got he got six?
35:00
Team So you know what eighteen eighteen? It was eighteen. I think it
35:04
was eighteen. I saw him the score. It was eighteen. I's not
35:06
mistaken. Uh no, sixteen according to on the Lega City website. Maybe
35:12
it was eighteen on comps. Oh sorry, yeah, but what's crazy?
35:16
Adrie top ten city. I scores zero Italians zero zero Italians right outside of
35:27
it. Sorry he could actually sorry, this is a lie. Season's not
35:30
done. We're doing this and the season is not done. True. He
35:34
can still score, he can still score on Sunday, will even play.
35:39
I wouldn't be surprised if they kind of rest those euro players. But you
35:44
know, it's pretty crazy they stuff player the game. Jude second and and
35:49
Italy's game is in less than two weeks after that, the pre tournament matchup.
35:55
Yeah, next week they play what is it, the the ninth and
36:01
the fourth or something or the fifth or something something like that, So it's
36:06
kind of it close. So yeah, maybe you're right, maybe he doesn't
36:07
get put in, but we'll walk away and see. I was just looking
36:12
the last time. So last year Bararti finished ninth, Immobile finished tenth in
36:16
scoring. Year before that, Immobile finished as Capo Kanani in twenty twenty,
36:25
twenty twenty one, thank you said your website for being so slow. Mobile
36:30
a fifth. So you have to go back a long time to see the
36:34
last time zero Italians finished in the top ten. I can't even think of
36:37
it off the top of my head, just because Immobile has been so consistent
36:40
with that. Right, you know, is the Italic goal scorer. Even
36:45
if you go what seven eight years, I think woys have been seven years.
36:49
Mobile, I think he came back twenty sixteen, Yeah he was.
36:52
He was back in twenty sixteen. He finished sixth with twenty three goals.
36:55
Even if you look at the fifteen sixteen season, you want to guess who
37:00
the highest scoring Italian was in the fifteen sixteen season. Was it a bit
37:07
of this? No? No, I actually I was actually holding the page
37:12
two earlier, right earlier, right fourteen thirteen. Was that when he got
37:17
the hell of a year? I forget it was sixteen also, maybe it
37:22
was fourteen fifteen. Then maybe it was fourteen fifteen. But who was it
37:24
then? Italian one? The top scoring Italian? Oh man, And it's
37:30
not Gallibilotti, Rin Senior, I'll tell you that, or Candadeva or Gilardino.
37:37
Oh my god, you gave her in like all the names. Fuck
37:40
now, I don't know, I don't know. You have to tell me.
37:44
Uh, Leonardo Pavolotti. Pavlo goal was the pop goal, the top
37:50
of the Italian goal scorer. How many goals? Uh, fourteen fourteen by
37:57
the way, look at Tony in it was fourteen fifteen, score twenty two.
38:00
Yeah, I was thinking it was just his birthday, so shut out
38:02
to Toka Tony. So I had them on my mind. But and I
38:07
remember those types of years. Hell's Verona I score, still scoring, still
38:12
doing his typical you know, celebration there. So yeah, I know,
38:16
but that's that's crazy. I don't know if I don't know if if this
38:22
season not having an Italian in the top ten it should be a scary thing
38:24
or or what. But listen, it's it's clear that this league has has
38:32
thrived with their foreign players, you know, especially lately and in the past.
38:39
But I know, obviously we've had a couple of Italians in those top
38:43
ten lists of of top scorers. But the guys, it's not it's not
38:50
back in the days, you know, eighties, nineties, you know,
38:52
even early two thousands where it was you know, some of some of these
38:57
Italian strikers and forwards where ridiculous so and and scoring at a high level.
39:01
So you know, it is where it is. I think even our form
39:07
players bring excitement to the league, they bring quality to this league. So
39:13
I think I guess it just it is where it is. And you know,
39:15
we we've we've evolved from those times, so it kind of is what
39:19
it is, you know. The I guess it's a numbers thing also,
39:22
and maybe it's just the quality too. We got Western guys we haven't had
39:25
besides the Mobile in the league, like who was really the like the yeah
39:30
Ki Bilotti had, you know that that stretch of you know, stretch of
39:35
a couple of years there, but like we haven't had like a solid like
39:39
Italians that were like like scoring like crazy. Yeah, we had like seasons
39:45
where maybe a couple of them overlapped, you know, Guaderella if it if
39:50
it'd be even about TWI back in the days, whoever, maybe mobile a
39:53
but like consistently for like a stretch of like even five six years, seven
39:59
years, how I mean like a handful of like of corey Italian players that
40:02
were scoring at high levels. I don't know if we've dow it. I
40:06
don't know if we've seen it. Like again, I don't have this all
40:07
the the sids in front of me, and maybe I'm just talking out of
40:09
my ass, but I don't know. It doesn't it doesn't seem. It
40:14
didn't seem that way, but hey, it is what it is. I
40:17
was just looking back at you know, top scorers in said, yeah,
40:22
go back to the twenty eleven twenty ten to twenty eleven season deed and tally
40:25
twenty eight goals, Cavani twenty six et to twenty one mat three twenty Marco
40:30
di Vaio nineteen goals, shot Zini, Potso, Pazzini seventeen, twenty fifteen,
40:37
Pato fourteen, Ebra fourteen, Robinio fourteen, and then Alexis, even
40:43
Alexis Sanchez total goals. Yeah, it was a unions at that point.
40:49
Those were the days, man. See those are the days. You know.
40:51
I know that's the tens, but still even before the time of the
40:53
days, but those were the days. Man. Look at those twenty eight
40:57
goals by total, like those were the days, man. Yeah, I
41:04
followed he followed up, followed that up with twenty three, but his last
41:07
time took it personally and he scored twenty at the next season on eleven twelve,
41:12
and even h Yeah that there were some consistion strikers in those years,
41:19
even even Cavani, you know he twenty nine, twenty thirteen. Incredible player,
41:24
incredible player. Before we before we round this all up. Coach,
41:30
coach, yeah, manager, manager, top coach, diego. It has
41:35
to be like what he did with Bologna this season, like I was singing
41:37
about in Zagi. You know, again won the school, that's and everything.
41:40
But what Monta did with Bologna. I'm not saying the players are bad,
41:45
obviously he has good players, but you know, he wasn't he's not
41:49
given the absolute budget of Roma Vlacho even of jug what he did to bring
41:55
them into the top well now top five is in credible. So for me,
42:00
it's him, Jenny uh point for he went for Gasparini. Yeah,
42:09
he went for Gasperini with Montez very close second. Yeah, no, listen,
42:14
I for me it was a toss up as well. I'm gonna go.
42:19
And I know we have to say in Zagi's name when we're talking about
42:22
all this, you know he got it in terms of Coach of the Year
42:24
and for saidiyah they named him it. What he was able to do and
42:29
what he has been able to do. I think it's I think it's he's
42:31
had what he's gotten in a trophy. H every season that he's been there.
42:37
Now I believe he's been what I think. Yeah, yeah, no,
42:42
it's two weird now he's there, right, this is the second season.
42:45
I think he came after you in one. So yeah so yeah third
42:52
sorry, third season, right, yeah, sounds about right? Season Yeah,
43:00
third season, Yeah, third season. I'm prett sure he's had a
43:01
trophy like every every season that he's that he's coached. Yeah, exactly,
43:06
because corporate Italian super copans won one of, if not both, in multiple
43:12
years. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and well in his first season he
43:15
won both the coal and and the Super Copa. Sorry in his first two
43:25
seasons. And then obviously this year did they did they win the they won
43:34
the they won the Super Copa this year? Yeah? Uh yeah they did
43:38
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly how they did? So yeah, like
43:44
for what he's not only this season, Yeah, okay, the biggest cherry
43:46
is obviously the school that too, and and that's and that's and that's great,
43:50
and that's fine, and and you know, I think he deserves all
43:53
the credit, which again I'm gonna eat my words because I have not been
43:59
a big fan of him, especially in the past. Uh, he's proven
44:02
me wrong. I can say that for at least these seasons, but not
44:07
only. I think this season he really proved me wrong, just for the
44:09
fact that he was finally able to get over over over the humph. He
44:15
was finally he was finally able to become a sea champion. You know,
44:20
that was the one thing he was missing, uh, in terms of in
44:22
terms of you know, winning trophies in Sariya. He's he was missing at
44:28
Sculeto obviously, the lots of the years, what he was able to do
44:31
there now with inter great, He's he's he's improved and I think as a
44:37
manager, as a you know, as a tactician, as you know,
44:39
he's been he's been improving every year. So for me, that deserves a
44:45
shout for sure. I'm gonna go. I'm still gonna stick with Yoga Manta
44:49
because that's what I have written as one. I have both the names written
44:52
down, but I have mantas ahead of Zagi on my on my paper here.
44:55
But I think, but you kind of said it, and we've said
45:01
it, you know, I always say at timeless times on the show.
45:05
But you know, Mota again improved as a manager, was with this Boonia
45:10
side, incredible season. They're going to Champions League. It's a shame that
45:17
it ultimately looks like he won't be there, and I think it's only a
45:22
matter of time until we see him, uh you know, at in Torino
45:29
with Wiliovea. But just what he's been able to do the the sher brilliance
45:34
with Boonia has been incredible to watch, incredible to to to speak about pretty
45:37
much on almost on a weekly basis, on on on the show here,
45:40
so you know, just elevating players, uh, not only transfer value wise,
45:47
but just even statistically confidence wise, you know, attitude. He's really
45:54
had everybody buy into the system. And uh it's it's it's taken flight like
46:00
we said, and uh it's been incredible, like I said, to watch,
46:02
so Taga Manta for me gets colch of the Year. But I think
46:07
with you saying with somebody saying Thiago Motta and saying in Zagie, I think
46:12
it's like a one A one B. You can really say either or it's
46:16
really just maybe a preference at that point and maybe kind of where your where
46:20
your heart weighs and maybe like what attracts you more to what was like the
46:25
feats that were that were accomplished by each of these managers. So yeah,
46:30
no for me, like I said, Tago Malta rounds out our coaches of
46:36
the year. Uh so that'll do it. That will do it for us
46:42
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