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3 Guys Before The Game - Clawed By Lions (Episode 484) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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Hey, everybody, welcome in. It is already time four three guys before
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the game. It's our first post game edition of the twenty twenty three football
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season. Title of the show Claude by Lions, Claude by Lions, cla
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W E D not C l a U d E. Claude by Lions,
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We welcome you. In its episode four eighty four, West Virginia falls to
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the Nitney Lions of Penn State by a final score up thirty eight to fifteen.
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they are all right. So the Senator and I have not spoken regarding the
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outcome of the game. Literally got home, little sleep, went up to
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my office, got the text questions organized, copied and pasted, and we
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haven't talked. So let's jump in. West Virginia falls by a score of
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thirty eight fifteen. Not only I'm sure if our listeners interested on your take
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on the game, I'm also interested on your take of the game. Hit
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me, I'll say this and we'll get we'll niche this down, so I'll
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try and start big picture and then we'll just go down through the different elements
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through the game. I think kind of what I expected going into the game.
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The strengths seem to be the strengths after one game for WV. The
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weaknesses that we've talked about for months I still have concerns about. And again
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we'll start to identify each of those. I said all along, if West
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Virginia could get in there and cover the number and walk out of there with
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some things to build upon, I thought, that's probably a realistic take for
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this game. You know, I talked a lot about it in our pregame
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coverage yesterday. Penn State's lost. I think it's thirteen times in a season
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opener in the history of that program. So it's over what is one hundred
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and thirty six season openers. They've lost thirteen times. So to think you
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we're going to go in there and get the win was probably unrealistic. You
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also wanted to see how that looked versus the cover or not. Now James
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Franklin, I am absolutely sure he would have no idea what the what the
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number is, because I know that none of those guys have any idea what
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the spread is. They don't they don't pay attention. He's probably pretty busy.
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Probably they don't know. They never ever look at that. No one
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ever tells them. There's never any big donors that have money on it.
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They would have no idea what the number is. Okay, but scoring a
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six touchdown with six seconds left and it pushes the number in Nords depend states,
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it's I'm gonna, I'm gonna anyway. West Virninia almost walks out of
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their covering, and I know I'm gonna get all kinds of texts for next
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week. That's not about moral Victor. He's in fire, Neal Brown and
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all the stuff you're gonna get. But I thought there was enough good coming
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out of there for West Virginia that you have some things to build on.
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And Tony, I've phrased it this way last night. It depends on what
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your expectations were. If your expectations where Westernia was going to go in there
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and pull off the biggest ray other season win in school history, you're private
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beside yourself today that didn't happen. But I'm looking at this is almost like
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a two game preseason situation. There was almost nothing you were going to do
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to win that game last night, so that's lost. There's almost nothing you
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can do to lose the Duquee game next week. With all due respected Duquee.
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And I'm knocking on wood, but I know you don't believe in Jinkses,
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so I certainly didn't just jinx anything. So you're one and one and
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you come back. And I've said for a long time I think the season's
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direction is determined a lot by the following three weeks, the Pit game,
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the Texas Tech game, and at TCU. I've also contended for weeks there
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are wins in this league for a lot of teams from one through fourteen.
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It's incredibly balanced. From four through fourteen. In that preseason poll, it's
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remarkably balanced. That's seven and a half wins to five and a half wins.
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Did that show up yesterday? TCU gets beat as a three touchdown favorite
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at home by Colorado. The Story of college football Baylor. How's Dave Randa
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doing this morning? They yak one up. Texas Tech goes on the road
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as a two touchdown favorite at Wyoming. They get beat. So there are
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wins on this schedule. You just played the team that's most likely the best
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team you're going to play on your schedule. So I know I've just said
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a lot. My ultimate point is, I thought it kind of went as
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you thought it was going to go, and the strengths of the strengths and
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the weaknesses of the weaknesses. After a one game sample size, which is
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really small, I realize, Okay, I accept all that. Yep,
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I'm totally with you on all of that. Okay, so now grades in
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we get report cards already, Yeah, yes, how do those How do
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those guys so they don't sleep, No, they just like they just go,
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they do homework, they get it in. Well, wins the most
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important time game just ended. You want them up today. You've got people,
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got things to do. Let's go get it today. Does this qualify
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as potentially could this be used as Yeah, spreads on statue take credit for
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this, okay, so let's do this. Just don't get to use the
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song. We go spreads on the stats? What do the numbers tell us?
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And this is from you're using PFF Pro football floms, you're not using
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you like lots of times you'll you'll put different services together. This is this
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is just PFF correct, all right? So this is Pro Football Focus.
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They have people the grade, the players, the grade the entire thing.
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So here we go, spreads on steps. Walk me through how many categories
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are giving us? There's one, two, three, four, five,
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six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven twelve total categories?
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All right, I think I think highlight a couple that you would expect.
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I thought one of the disappointments coming out of that game for me is the
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defensive backfield. I thought at times there was too much cushion. There were
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too many open guys running through the defensive backfield, which is something we saw
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a lot of last year. I had I was under the impression that would
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change pretty significantly, and maybe it will as the season moves on. That's
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the other part. Give the disclaimer for the first game. We're making a
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lot of over arching judgments here with a really small sample size of one game.
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You've got to allow for the fact that things will improve in players will
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get better. But I thought that defensive backfield would perform a little bit better
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in coverage. The coverage grade per PFF coming out was just a forty five,
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So I kind of backs up what you saw out there. There were
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some plays where it was just too easy for Drew Aller, and he was
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very good. He did exactly what he needed to do. You heard Neil
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say they were going to try and sell out to stop that running game,
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those wonderful running backs, which they did a decent job of containing them,
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and see if the freshman quarterback and his first start could beat you, and
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he did. He stepped up and had some passes, but there were a
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lot of guys that were open in that game. The other part of that
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defensive backfield, We've talked all off season about the need to create turnovers.
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You have got to get turnovers. If you're this West Virginia defense only four
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interceptions last year, one of the lowest in Power five. Man, you
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had opportunities. You had two blatant drops of interceptions last night. And Aubrey
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Burke's on that long touchdown pass, man, I don't know how that ball
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got through there. He was beating that badly. He's laid out. It
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looked like the ball went right between his two hands, so would have been
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a difficult interception, but it was there for the taking and certainly a pass
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that could have been bad down. Just bad luck on that one. So
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West Virginia's got to create more turnovers and hold onto those balls that are their
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chance. So that's the first grade you look at coverage at forty five on
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a game just simply has to get better. You're doing this for individual players
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or do you want to let's just go overall right now, because I think
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that's the biggest part, and then I'll niche into some individual players another concern.
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We'll get into the offensive line and talk about the running game, because
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I thought this team did some really good things on the ground. I thought
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Garrett was very good with his legs. So the thought that this offensive line
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and this running game will be good, I think is still alive. I
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thought they did some nice things against what's a very talented defensive front of Penn
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Stage as we know. But the pass blocking grade just a twenty five,
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and you saw that. I mean, Garrett was under some pressure. So
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that whole passing game clearly needs a lot of work. Garrett's completion percentage was
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a little better than last year, fifty nine percent versus fifty five, but
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that's got to continue to climb. You have got to find a way to
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get some receivers downfield. I think that's the biggest thing that jumps up six
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and even six yards per attempt. Last night, we talked last year,
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West Virginia was six point two and six point four for the two quarterbacks last
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year that were the two lowest in the Big twelve, and yards per attempt
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it was six last night. To compare and contrast that, Drew Aller and
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I know he had the big seventy two yard play drew Aller's yards per attempt
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eleven yards. So West Virginia is either going to have to find somebody that
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can get deep or try and scheme something. That's a challenge, but you
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better figure out how to loosen that defense up. I think you make a
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really good point. The problem is that at this point EJ. Horton did
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not play in the game. He was supposedly going to be a vertical threat
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and he was out of the game with an injury. Don't know how long
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he'll be out. Other than that, you have you have some concerns could
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that become trail and ray getting down the field. But at this point you've
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got no true legitimate speedster to force defensive backfields to honor you, and as
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a result, everything gets pushed up. That's gonna be a challenge. Now,
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he saw Devin Carter get behind them once that looked to be the result
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of a blown coverage, but outside of that, that was really the only
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thing that was able to be thrown downfield. So that's got to work.
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Pass blocking again, you were going against a team with a couple of elite
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pass rushers, but this is an elite offensive line, so certainly you can't
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have a pass block in grade at twenty five as you go throughout one other
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disclaimer on these grades, they may change slightly throughout the day as they continue
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to grade the film, so take that with a grain AsSalt that there may
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be some tweaks to this. Okay, did you give me run grade?
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Run offense grade? Really good? Seventy eight, which you would expect,
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right, run block in grade seventy two and a half. So that was
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good. And you know, specifically, excuse me here, tell me why
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I put my glasses I can make sure I see here? Are really nice
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this Those new No No had him for a couple of years, thanks for
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noticing. Newsflash, Zach Fraser are pretty good. I mean he takes guys
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and beats there beep. Forty percent of West Virginia's team rushing yards came between
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those A gaps, so either right behind him or just to his left or
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right now. Again, those numbers aren't a surprise. You would expect that,
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but that's pretty impressive. They just rode Zach Fraser, and I did
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like the new West Virginia Eagles Philly Push, you know Philly Rose that rode
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that to the Super Bowl lash right, that was extremely effective. Traylan Davis.
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I mean he just kind of think he puts each hand, each of
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his hands around Garrett's hips, kind of like just be beanie babies them,
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right, just kind of that's that's pretty good lineup right behind Zach Frasier.
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And then Frasier had a couple of good pushes himself, should have one rushing
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touchdown when he picked Garrett up kind of just throw them into the end zone.
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So Zach Fraser's a stud. But you didn't need me to tell you
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that, all right, anybody else run grade wise? Individuals pop out,
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Yeah, standby, we're efforting at this point. You hear the couple of
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mouse clicks right there, he's efforting. CJ had a really good game,
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right, graded out OFTO seventy six percent offensively, so you would expect that.
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I thought he looked really good and he's just effortless when he runs,
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doesn't he He looked really good. Finished up with eighty one yards on eighteen
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carries, with a long run of seventeen, so he didn't have a big,
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big, huge one. He averaged four and a half yards procure.
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Okay, who else asked me a question. I'll say Devin Carter graded out
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pretty highly in what was a very tough matchup. So we thought all offseason
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he'd be your most reliable receiver threat. I don't know that last night changed
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my opinion of that. He made some nice plays. Quite frankly, one
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of his best plays in the night might have been down that far sideline when
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he went up on a past and it looked like a sure were interception and
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he went up and played did a nice job at defensive back there. Yeah.
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So he finished up leading West Virginia in catches six for ninety so he
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was targeted eight caught at six times. I was surprised that Cole Taylor,
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the tight end, only got targeted three times. Yeah. Good three catches
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by the tight end. So we talked about that. Traylon Davis had one,
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Toler had Taylor had two. Traylon Davis with the one. So that's
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got too. I think continued to evolve and be a part of the offense
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that you need. Now again, go back and watch this. I'm wondering
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if the tight ends couldn't be used as much in the pass game because you
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still needed some help in the pass block. That happened a lot last year.
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So hopefully as you face less aggressive pass rushing teams, you can get
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those guys out and routes more. Because you're the concern you had at the
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receiver corps coming in was who beyond Carter was going to be the guy you
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would hope Cole Taylor might have to emerge that. I still think that holds
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true. Right, who's your number two receiver? Right now? You don't
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have an answer for me, So that's got to continue to evolve. Who
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wants to step up and catch those balls after you get them to Devin Carter?
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All right? What else you have for me? You need to go
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back to the glasses or you can see it all right. I think I
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can see it all right? Okay, I think I think those are a
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lot of a lot of my big numbers. What you got anything in regard
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to Let's talk about West Virginia's rush defense. Penn State finished up with one
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hundred and forty six on the ground. Obviously, Singleton and Allen, two
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very very good running backs. May the two best tandem. I'm not saying
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the best running the best two on a team that West Virginia will face this
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season, they get one forty six and their average per rush finished up at
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four point two. West Virginia's average per rush finished up at three point seven.
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Anything there stand out defensive line, any particular players stand out defensive line
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wise? You got a sixty three grade on your run defense, which,
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again against that team, that's probably not terrible. And if you take it
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from again a game plan perspective, that you were worried with them about the
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big explosive plays from the running game, they just didn't have them. They
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didn't have a run over fifteen yards all night. So I think you walk
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away with a victory there. I think overall that's not a bad job from
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West Virginia run defense wise. I'll give you some some specific run defense grades
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here for the Mountaineers. Leekba was obvious see very good, graded out at
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nearly an eighty seventy eight, Lance Dixon seventy one. Mobo didn't. Mobo
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didn't have a ton of snaps, just fourteen, but had a seventy grade.
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Hammond Russell in there with a sixty seven grade. He only played five
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snaps, so he had some guys in there with some decent grades, not
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dominant performance at all. But I thought the run game run defense was certainly
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ahead of the past defense. So again, you get to use it once
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a year. You improve your most from your first year's second game. I
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think you put it perfect context to what we're doing here. View this as
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the first two games is okay. We kind of could figure out what the
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results were going to be before the season never started. Right now, the
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question is how you come up your ladder as the season goes on, because,
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like you, I think there are games. There's games on this schedule.
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West Virginia can have a successful season. West Virginia can win games.
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But as you also said, there's this really small margin in among the four
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to the fourteen or five to the fourteen in this conference. So who's gonna
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be five, six, seven, eight, nine potentially wins? That's the
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margin that you're gonna be in in that group. So where are you going
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to go? Where are you gonna be? Are you gonna be the five,
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You're gonna be the sixth, the seven, the eight, All of
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a sudden really gets going in. It's all there. But this month of
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September, and I said this a bunch of times, it's go time right
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now, because before this month is over, West Virginia still has four more
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games. Forty one percent of your seasons is going to be done before the
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first day of October. Forty one percent of your season. And you have
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absolutely got to win these three coming up at home. You just saw Tech
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gacket at Wyoming, which makes them real now do Yeah, they do have
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Oregon. I don't buy into that thing. They're already looking toward Oregon.
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They got to Oregon this coming week and love it. You gotta make your
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money. You gotta go back out on the road at three and one to
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go to TCU. That's what you need to do. Yeah, correct,
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And even that you should. And I know Neil Brown since he's been here,
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the road wins have been few and far between. I get that,
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But you've got to look at TCU is not what they were last seven screaming
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about that for a month. All due respect to the horn Frogs that there
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was some extreme luck that came with last season. They were very good,
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took advantage of their opportunities. But one score games playing against backup quarterbacks that
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just doesn't happen every year, and you start to see a little of that
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luck run out yesterday. That doesn't mean you're going to go into TCU and
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win, But that's a game you got to look at and say, all
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right, how do we get wins out of that? And that's why I
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continue to say what I've said for a month, that three game stretch is
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what starts to decide this season. There's some wins after that on the schedule
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and you can make some hay, but what are you going to do against
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pit Tech and at TCU. One other point for a minute, Let's talk
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about Garrett Green for a second, because I've sat on here since he appeared
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and sat right in this chair. He said, I've got to be able
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to throw the ball when I have to throw the ball to win games.
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I know that since that moment he was here. What have I said about
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Garrett Green? He cannot turn it over. If he doesn't turn it over,
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you can get some different sets and play calls. I thought you saw
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that last night. No turnovers for Garrett Green. So I should have led
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with that. As much as I've hollered about that all offseason, that was
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an excellent job. No turnovers, ball control, and you saw the offense
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get more diverse. I know people are going to scream and holler about individual
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play calls, the fourth down play call with Nico. I get all of
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that, but there were different plays last night that you have not seen in
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the last four years. So I credit Neil and his play calling overall for
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mixing different things in there, and credit Garrett Green for protecting the football last
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night. That's a great start. If you can pick that performance up and
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it? His running accounted for forty one percent of your first downs last night.
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So when I said the strengths appear to be your strengths and the weaknesses
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appeared to be the weaknesses, last night. Garrett's ability to take off and
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make plays with his leg legs, that's gonna be critical. You're gonna have
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to ride that this season. That's what we talked about right last Thursday in
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the preview, we said, is it realistic to think he can get you
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fifty to seventy five yards a game? The answer is yes, and by
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the way he has to and by the way he has to. Also,
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you know, Jaylen Anderson just never got it going last night, but it's
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there. It's there. He's gonna make plays. And Justin Johnson obviously didn't
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factor into it. But I think they do have three quality guys. And
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you know, I'm going to prescribe for the moment my tried and true it's
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never as bad, never as good. Somewhere in the middle. The question
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becomes what exactly is the middle? We're gonna find out really soon three consecutive
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meetings this week trying effort. People like to make things hard. I'll just
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say that, I really people like to make some things that should be easy
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there. Yeah, but I don't know why you have to make things hard.
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Yeah. I hope it doesn't. I hope it doesn't go that way.
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I hope it doesn't become hard. Ready to go. Sure, we're
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gonna get into some more of these plays and things because the texts there was
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one general theme. There was one general theme among all the texts, So
23:42
we'll talk about that. Hi, Tony, brad and out for a break.
23:48
Hopy enjoyed watching us compete for large portions last night, but overall we
23:52
just seemed overmatched. I do think Garrett Greene could win us some games with
23:56
his feet this year, but we've got to see some improvement in the secondary.
24:00
If I'm being honest, I don't really need any sort of healing textually
24:04
when it comes to WVU football, but I am writing with a request.
24:10
My brother Philip Bowen will be on the live semifinals broadcast of America's Got Talent
24:15
this Tuesday, September five, at eight pm on NBC. WV has been
24:22
very good to Philip so far on his musical journey. I'm reaching out to
24:23
implore all of Mountaineer Nation to watch and vote that evening. Yeah well sure,
24:30
sure, well really talented Philip Bowen. Yeah I would. I would
24:36
say, if there's one thing that West Virginians traditionally and historically have been able
24:40
to do, let's vote. We know how to vote early, often repeatedly.
24:47
So yeah, West Virginians, get in there and vote for Philip Bowen.
24:49
We are Montgomery, West Virginia natives, and phil always reps West Virginia
24:55
proudly, far and wide. Hoppy has been kind enough to have Philip on
24:59
that bi monthly coffee clatch thing that he does down there at that radio station.
25:06
My family is super appreciative of any and all support. Go Mountaineers.
25:10
So if you would, hopefully you're listening to this before Tuesday at eight pm,
25:15
make a note on your phone or whatever it is that you use to
25:18
remind yourself of things, and like put it down like I'd say, like
25:22
seven fifty seven pm on Tuesday, have a thing ring at you and then
25:27
vote for Philip Bowen as he appears on America's Got Talent eight pm indorse a
25:34
second time. Yeah, LaVar Arrington's are really big. Excuse me, LaVar
25:41
Arrington, the former Penn stater NFL guy. Yeah, he was doing the
25:45
game in the booth next door. Yeah. Who. I just looked at
25:51
him. He wasn't not wearing equipment, right, he wasn't wearing equipment.
25:56
And he walked by and I went like, I get the hallway. Could
26:00
you imagine him coming off that edge? Good lord, you wouldn't like to
26:07
be hit by How do those quarterbacks like? How do they how do they
26:10
breathe after he hits you? Right? Just a dude, gave me a
26:15
compliment, gave you a compliment he did. What do you say, Well,
26:19
I was waiting, he was gonna he wasn't at halftime. You know
26:22
you got you got to check in at the restroom, Penn says me.
26:26
You gotta check in. You go to the restaurroom. Is there a single
26:29
restroom? I'm sorry, there's one restroom. One three hundred and seventy two
26:34
thousand seats in the stadium. They only have one watched restroom in the press
26:37
box to their places a paradox. So they've got some new, brand new
26:42
stuff in that stadium, but there's some things that I swear to you have
26:47
not changed since the day they built it. And one of those is having
26:51
one potty. So they have two bathrooms, but they're one. There's just
26:53
a toilet in each room. Here's the funniest thing. The sink in there.
26:59
The sink. You can't find a smaller sink. You can't Like you
27:04
can go to lows, you can go to depot, you can go to
27:07
Minards, you go eighty four, you go to o C. Clus say
27:11
hey, I need the smallest sink in the world. Sinks about like this.
27:15
It's like it must have been like when people had smaller hands. That's
27:21
what I think it was, because teeny teeny sinks. Tiny sink. Yeah,
27:26
was the toilet regular sized, Yeah that was They got that one,
27:30
but the sink was just one of them. So like in eighteen twenty seven,
27:33
whenever they put the stadium together there, it's like the it was like
27:37
you they don't make him anymore. Shocks me. Like you if you went
27:40
there and said, like, hey, I need one of those sinks.
27:41
They have at the Penn State Media in the press box. They go,
27:45
well, they don't make those anymore. Too small anyway, So point is
27:48
so I was waiting for him, and you just sit the whole first half
27:52
you to get tight. So I was just doing some downward I wasn't doing
27:57
a downward You didn't go downward dog go down on your hands and press what
28:00
do you call the other thing when you just go straight down and put your
28:03
palms down on the ground. You well, I don't. I can't get
28:04
my palms all the way the ground. But just regular damp string stretch.
28:07
Yeah, like old school sixth grade talastantics, just kind of. I just
28:11
was putting my palms downe on the ground. He walked. I said,
28:12
dude, So so the yoga is paying off. You got a compliment on
28:18
your stretchiness from LaVar Ange. He goes, dude, you gotta figure it
28:19
out there. I sits up far. No, I really didn't, but
28:23
he I did stretch. But anyway, Texter her two guys proof that Morgan
28:30
from Morgantown is real. Interestingly enough, Morgan was the only person Hoppy made
28:34
contact with before slipping out the back at his beer release. I really do
28:40
hope to see those. Thanks for having us shirts up for sale. Yeah,
28:44
well those aren't coming out. But then I so he sent me a
28:47
picture of his license and that is his name, Morgan, his driver's license.
28:51
His name is Morgan. Yeah, uh, Steve, not cal In
28:59
cal checking in. Was it Barrett Green who gave Michael Vick the Oki doki
29:06
on the sideline? It was him, I think makes sense as he was
29:10
known to draw yellow hanky or ten. I have for years, I think,
29:14
falsely accused of Barrett Green being the guy that pulled up for that exact
29:18
reason. It's not. It's not. It's not Barrett Green, but I
29:21
thought that for years. Sorry Barrett, Barrett, Barrett to hit you right
29:26
in the face, all due respect, you would text congratulations. Six years
29:30
of great analysis, previews, reviews, general fund. Now an episode goes
29:34
by without you or without you guys, causing me a smile or sometimes not
29:38
right belly laugh, much like TC does while listening to Dan Wetzel. I've
29:44
only been listening since January, but I will often go back and listen to
29:47
earlier shows. Keep up the great work, and I, like many others,
29:48
hope that you go well beyond eight hundreds signed by Dink from Bridgeport.
29:52
Thank you very much. Thank It is kind of while when we look at
29:56
the stats how people like past episodes are like super long ago, Like people
30:02
still download and listen, which is kind of neat which the summer series passed
30:04
interviews. That doesn't surprise me. The people listening to the Texas Tech preview
30:08
from nineteen seems a little It really does you go like, why would they?
30:12
Yeah, anyway, that's cool, keep doing it. Text he won
30:17
Jason and Mobile checking in. It's been a while since I've written the talk
30:21
of how reci cups started as singles and have moved on to now be the
30:26
candied confections that come in a multitude of sizes and shapes. Brings me to
30:30
the following question for you guys. I want to see if I'm the only
30:33
one with this problem. When I see a king size four pack of the
30:37
cups, I pretty much always pass on them because the gluttonous fool that I
30:42
am, the quantity of these I can actually take in if I'm even mildly
30:47
hungry is way higher than four. How many regular size cups can each of
30:52
you take? My number is shamefully in the eight to twelve range easily,
30:56
so I avoid them except for social occasion and special occasions. I also don't
31:00
remember you guys ever mentioning the added dimension of how much better they are if
31:04
you keep them in the fridge. Excellent, Jason, totally with Yeah,
31:11
I think eight to twelve would be easy. I try. I'm a gluttonous
31:12
fool as well. I try not to just take I've not tried that.
31:17
I probably shouldn't try that. I'm with you. I can hammer them,
31:21
that's interesting. I can hammer them now. I will say this. I
31:22
am not an in the fridge guy. I know some people like that certain
31:26
things. I go fridge girl, scout cookie thin mints in the freezer instantly,
31:30
Reese's No. I like when they're soft and a little melty. Interesting.
31:33
But I respect your decision, Jason. Well, as you know,
31:34
I can be a consensus all American when it comes to gluttony. But the
31:40
most of those regular size recy cups I could ever eat be in the four
31:42
to five rings. Yeah, well that's not you. I mean a tub
31:45
event peanut M and m's out there. You can take that down in two
31:48
settings. Yeah, you're absolutely a tub of M and M. Guys,
31:49
you're not a recy guy. Texture big salad and a glass bowl, though
31:52
you can eat about four pounds a lettus. Yeah I can, Yeah,
31:56
I can do some unbelievable things with the salad. Tony, I want it.
32:00
I want your take. I want it. No, wait a second,
32:02
let me start to getting in English. Tony. I want to take
32:05
your mob and raise you top tope. Tope, Tony, I want to
32:10
take your mob and raise your tope. That is tope man. The eighties
32:15
and the nineties were wild honorable mentioned to Teal, signed by Chris the Rebel
32:20
and Marietta. Also, it wasn't Parlobasting not Grant that let up on the
32:24
sideline my mistake. I think we gotta find out who the heck that was?
32:29
Can we? Someone tells us out on YouTube? I've seen it.
32:30
That's when I've realized it wasn't there. Who was I can't remember. I
32:34
think it was a defensive lineman. I think it was too. I don't
32:37
think it was parlel. I think it was a defensive lineman who had also
32:40
had some issues in the past of hitting people late, and that's why he
32:45
kind of laid off. I just think that was Texter only ten years.
32:52
That means four more years. I was talking about the Beatles here, only
32:57
ten years they were together. That means four more for us, which will
33:00
absolutely kill me considering that Dan Patrick is also retiring in four years, Tony,
33:05
have you ever met Dan Patrick? If so, any neat stories signed
33:07
by Adam in Adamston, probably not his real name or real or location.
33:15
I have never met Dan Patrick. I think he's incredibly talented, incredibly talented.
33:22
So he said he's already announced he's calling it down in four years.
33:24
I had not heard that. I know he's struck. I mean, you
33:27
know he's got medical issues. Yeah, he's a great, great talent.
33:31
Texter. My daughter is a Marine officer and a West Virginia University grad.
33:37
She got one day off while she was in the Middle East and this happened.
33:43
She's on the far right. So if you can run that video now,
33:47
chances are we're not going to hear the audio. But that's all those
33:51
Those are those folks in the bar there in the Mid East and they are
33:55
singing country roads. So oh yeah, how about very nice, well done
34:07
in the Mid East, well done, and thanks for service singing it.
34:10
Thank you very much, Yes, and thank you very much for your service.
34:14
Texter Paul from Tampa. Hello, you mentioned the Florida Utah game on
34:21
your last podcast. Well, as game time came last Thursday, seven pm
34:25
Eastern, I turned on ESPN on my Spectrum cable, only to be greeted
34:30
by a black screen that promptly turned into a message that Spectrum could not negotiate
34:36
a fair price with Disney, so they yanked ESPN from their lineup. It
34:40
was out of the blue. You are always talking about the future of revenue
34:45
streams and television packages for college sports. What do you think this means going
34:50
forward? I can tell you what it means to me. Goodbye, Spectrum
34:53
Cable. On another note, I wanted to add to your Flying WUV winter
34:58
collection. Here it is at the Arctic Circle near nov You're in Goy,
35:06
Russia on my last month, and the Arctic gas fields before escaping to Tampa
35:12
Bay Go Mountaineers. How about that? So that cats in Russia? Wow,
35:16
and he's got flying the big WV flag. That's a good trade.
35:22
Snow and Russia to Tampa. Yeah, well done Arctic Arctic either. There
35:27
were a lot of people screaming about that black out there from Spectrum cable,
35:30
and I get it, man, that would make you absolutely bonkers. You
35:32
pay a ton of money per month for cable, a ridiculous amount of money
35:37
for cable each month, and the provider and the cable company can't figure out
35:43
how to pay each other, so you're penalized even though you're dropping hundreds of
35:46
dollars a month. Get your bleeped together out there with that crap that's so
35:51
brutal to your question, Paul, how do you see this thing shaking out?
35:55
I mean, the die has already been cast. You're gonna move away
36:00
from paining those cable bills monthly, and it's going to become ala carte and
36:07
you're going to be a subscriber to these streaming services if you want it.
36:10
That's how you're going to get it down the road. I'll say this though,
36:14
I mean, you're right that's where it's headed. But for those of
36:15
us that are that are p one watchers of everything, this that sucks.
36:21
That's a bad development for me because I I love watching the NBA, as
36:23
you know, but when I have to your work for him, when I
36:27
have to pay for the NBA separately, if I can't get the team to
36:29
pay for it for me that Matt's brutal. I'm I'm gonna start having to
36:32
get stuff away when each conference, now maybe there'll only be two here before
36:37
long, start making you pages for their product. Things are gonna go away.
36:40
That's gonna bump me out as a as an extreme watcher. But I
36:44
know I'm on one another spectrum text. Hello, guys, I'll call this
36:47
submission total disrespect. Saturday morning, Opening day college football exciting. I open
36:53
up a story on ESPN dot com. They list the programs by conference with
36:58
the best odds to win the national championship. And then he goes on and
37:04
he lists them, for example, the SEC minus one fifteen, the Big
37:10
Ten plus one seventy five, PAC twelve plus one seventy ACC plus one twenty
37:17
AAC plus two thirty and does not list the Big twelve, does not list
37:24
the Big Twelve. Guys, says, are you kidding me? Ignorance and
37:27
competence intentional, just another reason to hate ESPN. Unbelievable. That's got to
37:32
be an oversight. I mean, you can find odds all over the place
37:35
for a Big twelve team to win it. I mean Texas is one of
37:37
the teams that's in the top six or seven favorite, so it had to
37:39
be just being oversight. That was from Joel and the lum in Atlanta.
37:46
This was a pregame text, so this before the game happened from Michael and
37:50
Colode and Fudge Guy, Great Fudge. My heart is saying Oklahoma eighty two,
37:55
Florida in the Peach Bowl, Lock of the Year, Georgia and the
37:59
Sugar Oklahoma and the Fiesta. However, my brain is screaming, remember this
38:02
is Penn State. You've suffered through many disappointments. That comes with plaint.
38:07
Unfortunately, you were right. Texter says, with the additions to the ACC,
38:13
will they change the name to mean All Coast Conference? Kevin not from
38:17
Kevin, Montana. Fought on that because since we got together, the ACC
38:24
did pull the trigger on Calford and SMU and I was chatting with someone and
38:31
they said, massive, massive step here beginning of the end in that those
38:40
three schools just waved their arms and said, we're not of the same value
38:45
of you. Would you let us in? Yep? That was nine years
38:49
SMUs not getting I know, I said, almost a decade. Almost a
38:52
decade. It's nearly a third of a billion dollars they are foregoing to get
38:57
in that league, which is which is just bizarre. And you're right,
39:00
that's what they said. We're just dying so much to get into this club.
39:02
We'll just come in. We don't need your money, we'll raise it.
39:06
The other part, that's just totally bizarre. And what are we doing?
39:08
The discussion that they're going to use Dallas and SMU as a central hub
39:14
to minimize some of the travel for the Huh, we're just going neutral site,
39:20
Like Stanford's world class swimming program is going to load up with cal and
39:22
just fly over on a Tuesday for a try meet with Wake and they're gonna
39:28
do it in Dallas. Huh, what in the hell are we doing?
39:32
Somebody gets some control of this thing. No one will, No one will
39:37
so stupid We're gonna meet in Dallas for neutral site games. This is au
39:42
travel ball, Yeah it is. It's the beginning of the end, beginning
39:49
of the end. By the way, crowd last night was one hundred and
39:52
ten thousand, that's what it was, fourth largest ever Texter. They played
40:00
a lot of games there. So last year West Virginia goes to pitt and
40:05
it's the largest crowd ever in that stadium. This year West Virginia opens at
40:08
Penn S. It's the fourth largest ever. They've had some big games in
40:10
that stadium. Huh yeah, why would you want to play these games?
40:15
TV rating is probably good last night too, huh. Imagine any TV executives
40:21
know that they're watching that. I don't know how'd the guys doing, NBC?
40:24
You heard anything? No one was screaming, right, I didn't see
40:28
anything right anymore was screaming. I mean he had two pros. I'm sure
40:30
they were Noah Noah, Noah popped in there. No Eagle. Yeah,
40:34
he popped in to say hello, and did we did the handshake? Did
40:38
the hand yea the Syracuse handshake thing. And he's an amazing talent twenty five
40:45
years old. Yeah, he's very good twenty five And I think Todd Blackledge,
40:47
I know he's Penn say guy, people are probably gonna Texas next week's
40:51
say he was awful. And I think Todd Blackledge is really good and it's
40:52
been really good for a long long time. I think he's elite. Yeah.
40:55
I think that the combinat of Sean, Sean and Todd was wonderful.
41:06
I talked to Todd two yesterday because he's I haven't known him for a long
41:08
time. Odd Todd and Dwight Wallace and Todd's dad Ron so t came in.
41:16
Did not realize Todd Blackledge's son Todd, you know some played baseball at
41:25
TCU. Did not? Yeah, transferred. Now he's at He's at Hell.
41:35
He's in North Carolina, Elon or what's in Hickory Loo leonor rhyn Lenore.
41:43
Ryan Todd lives there as well, in the Charlotte area. Wonderful state.
41:52
Both from Summersville. Rights. Hey, three guys, Our favorite place
41:55
to be on a Saturday in the fall will always be the Blue Lot at
41:59
Mountaineer. But if we are opening on the road, I guess watching from
42:02
one of our favorite spots to be in the summer will do just fine.
42:07
Let's go mountains is nice bow from Somersville, PS. This is yeah a
42:13
Loundell pontoon. Yeah nice, that's nice. Oh that's well done, great
42:19
shot, great view, awesome flag like at that bench seating right there that
42:22
and see that's how you do a pontent. That's nice. Now they got
42:25
it down right now, they don't have it up right now. It looks
42:28
like he's in some shade there. You can see the awning in the back
42:30
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42:32
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43:00
occupation anymore, but it was for a long time. If I'm loude Wendell
43:05
Marine, I might reach out to Bow from Somersville. Here, that's a
43:08
great James Bond pontoon. It's very nice. I'm gonna take a look at
43:13
that picture there. Might slide that in there. Get a little local flavor
43:16
to their advertising, and it's beautiful. You think when they do a bond
43:20
you just leave the flying WV stuff on it. I think that becomes the
43:23
picture. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get you see what I'm
43:27
saying. Yeah, I get you. That's a that's one of their boats
43:29
in West Virginia waters looks awesome. Yeah. Perfect. You can reach out
43:32
to Bow there, provide him. We'll discount on service or something, and
43:37
maybe the folks at lou Wendell can make Bo a brand influencer. But he'd
43:44
probably have to start doing a bunch of TikTok videos and dancing on the boat
43:46
and things like that. If he wants to do that, that's what those
43:49
influencers do. Yeah, I think you got a dance. Maybe both can
43:52
dance. Text or Greg. In the Commonwealth of Virginia, We've waited ten
43:58
years to welcome our new mountaineer, Hudson Ray was born on the seventeenth of
44:04
August, and he's ready for the game tonight. I thought you would like
44:07
the onesie. Awesome, I had this fantastic gratulations. He waited ten years.
44:15
Awesome, man, congratulations to you. Hey, speaking of congratulations,
44:21
Yeah, what do you got? I was over you know, it was
44:23
a late game last night, of course, so I went ahead and I
44:28
need some extra hours, so I picked up a second shift over at Daniels
44:31
and I was in there Tuesday, picked up a second shift yesterday. You
44:34
went in yesterday, sure, because it was a late start, night start,
44:37
had some time, went over, need some hours, picked it up.
44:39
How do you do good? Busy door, revolving door, A lot
44:43
of people coming through there. We did a lot of folding, a lot
44:45
of moving of stuff, a lot a lot of merchandise going out the door.
44:47
But I was fortunate to meet a father and son duo that were on
44:52
their way to State College from elk V. Of course, stopped at Daniels
44:57
there to pick up some new gear, little pit stop and then on the
45:00
way to State College for the rest of the day. So the subtles from
45:02
Elk View were very, very nice. Father and son extremely nice, excellent
45:07
that you weren't there there. They're accountants, their accounts, so they were
45:13
glad to meet me, glad that you weren't there, So thank you,
45:16
guys. I've heard that name as accountants. I've heard that name. Do
45:21
you get those spelling on that? Yeah, I got it. We'll talk
45:23
off there. They're very nice. Do you think they might want to They
45:27
want spreads on stats and we talk about that at all. I didn't talk
45:30
about that with them, but I was somebody did reach out to me about
45:34
you being unable to follow up on leads, and remember who the accountants were
45:37
that reached out. So I've got that information. I'll pass along the show.
45:42
So anyway, I'm very big with the accountants, You not so much.
45:46
Hey, two guys and hoppies Ghost. It's James the fan who made
45:52
you three the key chains last winner, and I hope you liked them very
45:55
nice. During halftime of the WV Penn State game, I switched over to
46:00
watch the game between North and South Carolina, which Sean McDonough was on the
46:06
call, Tony, after hearing your impression of him, it's hard not to
46:12
laugh. Thank you very much. Here we go, Chucking Lumberport. By
46:21
the way, thanks for the key chains. It's in my car. Don't
46:23
use as a key chain prominently displayed in my car decoration. Kind of a
46:27
home finishing in your car, not like dice on the but I do have
46:30
it in there now. Chuck from Lumberport. I thought our defense played a
46:36
great game. Why did we go for a trick play instead of putting two
46:40
running backs in the backfield and run the ball. It wasn't like we couldn't
46:45
run the ball or run the Pat White RPO. We had a lot of
46:52
texts on that fake or trick play when they brought Nico in and I got
47:02
nothing for you. I mean, I just say I got nothing for you
47:07
there on. That one didn't work, didn't work, didn't work, tried
47:10
stuff, didn't work, and it wasn't a comfortable execution of it. No,
47:15
it just didn't. It didn't look good from the beginning. It is
47:16
unfortunate Nico and getting easy for me to say from the comfort of a studio,
47:20
I didn't have two three hundred pounders running at me. It's too bad
47:22
he couldn't have just quickly seen and just shot putted the thing up because CJ
47:27
was sitting right there. If you just get it up over those two linemen,
47:30
there's a that's a first down and he runs for a while bit.
47:32
But again easy for me to say, Texter, well, thank goodness Neil's
47:37
calling the plays now. That's sure helped a lot. Texter scoring a touchdown
47:43
instead of taking a knee. NFL doesn't even do that there, Bush League
47:47
hashtag no class Steven Tennessee Texter, Hello, I've seen and done some stupid
47:57
stuff in my forty nine years but Nico for a trick play on fourth and
48:00
two. Stupidest thing I've ever seen. Frustrated in Southwest Florida, see you
48:06
in Orlando, Tony Brown's talking about former out in her team's failing and happy
48:13
valley instead of taking responsibility for being the worst play caller in the history of
48:17
football, history of football. That's a lot. Yeah. I actually I
48:24
thought the play calling last night overall just again more diverse. You tried different
48:28
things, you ran at, you threw it. I thought, I actually
48:30
disagree with some of that criticism of the play calling. Is there individual situations,
48:35
sure, but you're always going to do that, I thought overall,
48:37
I thought it was much more diverse and creative than it's been. Quite simply,
48:40
I agree with you JD. In the southern coal fields in game text
48:46
though these are always hot. Here comes a burner. What in the bleep
48:52
is WV doing using a trick play with three and a half minutes left?
48:54
They don't have a reasonable chance of winning. Why not save it for a
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game of the future might actually make a difference. I'm baffled. Text follow
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up postgame text. So he came back after an endgamer? What in the
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bleep. Are you doing running your starting quarterback on the last play of the
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games you can't possibly win and risking injury. I don't get it. Absolutely
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completely totally unacceptable. Well, obviously you could see that he was Neil was
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going to play that thing literally down to the final second, used all of
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his timeouts, went for the two. He's you know, that was his
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decision. I'm gonna play this thing. I don't care. I'm gonna play
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this thing all the way at the very end. I'm not waving a flag
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on sidekick text or that. Takeaway from the Penn State game from an optimist's
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view, is essentially that the quarterback isn't bad, the defense isn't bad,
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the running backs aren't bad, the receivers aren't bad. The fact is that
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under Neil has not been bad, and that's just been good. For six
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and six or five seven. They haven't had any home run hinters, even
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though Neil's supposedly been a lot better recruiter than his predecessor, and this appears
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to be more of the same. I'm interested to see c J. Hopefully
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CEJ Donaldson stays healthy, because I think he's got a chance to be really
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good. He's just effortless when he runs. That big body's hard to bring
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down. So I'm interested to watch him. And then I just Garrett's improvement
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now throughout the season when he's the guy. We talked about this instead of
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coming in having to just play five seven, eight plays a game and trying
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to make something happen. Now, the fact that you're the starter, you're
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the guy, you're getting the majority of the snaps. What does that do
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to his ability? You know he had if I'm remembering my numbers right after
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his past attempts last night, that's like twenty five percent of his career past
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attempts came last night. What do we always say about reps when it's in
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any business, and we keep saying completion percentage. He's got to get better
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on the pass, got to make the passes that are there. You would
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think that continues to grow as he gets more comfortable and has more reps throwing
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the football. So Green's ability to improve in the passing game, which I
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think you've got to expect his coming, coupled with his ability to run,
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I think you can do some things offensively with those backs in line my belief
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and that has not changed from anything I saw last night. I'll just reiterate
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what I said at the beginning of the show. Who's the number two receiver?
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You have? Man, you have got to find a number two.
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You know, Rodney Gallagher not playing last night until what the last play of
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the gast I know some of that niels Is formation, didn't You moved out
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some slots for some other positions. Hopefully you get him greased up. And
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again we mentioned that I know that's not going to be a fifty catch guy
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most likely, but you've got to find some guys that can make plays from
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the receiver position. That was my biggest takeaway coming out of there, and
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you've got a wonderful opportunity this week to do just that. Yeah, get
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these guys out there. Let Rodney Gallagher, let trail and rag, let
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them go, let the horses out. Let's see what they can do.
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Give him a ton of reps. Get him comfortable on that field, because
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you've got Pitt the following week and then Texas Tech. By the way,
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since we print it, because we're very concerned about the environment on the show,
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we went two sides on the pages here and so I was just finishing
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the other text. He continued, we're screwed. Our old line and running
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game good enough to win six or seven against the schedule. However, we'll
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still be met and see the same in twenty four. Damn well, better
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be Pitt if he wants to keep his job, signed by a unhappy customer,
52:34
so that you have it. So what do you think of doing this
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on Sunday? It's fine, giving me fine, it's not ideal. I'd
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like some more time to dive in that I can give you more information if
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I had more time on the PFF, which we'll do moving throughout the week.
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I know a lot of people think we only do one show, but
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we do do sports Line every night at six h six, So if you
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like two n we'll have some more stuff on there. And the reason why
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I see we used to tape Monday's at twelve thirty last season, but they've
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moved all the WV football media to Mondays from twelve until past two, and
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as a result, we're trying to figure out exactly when we're going to do
53:15
our post game. We still do the pre Thursdays. About our post we're
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trying to make our way through super Shot out to Luke Rowsey, Lucky Luke
53:25
Rowsey, our producer. I mean he came in a great job. He
53:30
did a great job. I mean he came in. He doesn't he doesn't
53:31
complain, right, doesn't smile, smile and use it. Did you catch
53:38
that new type of cologne? I think he went with it. I didn't
53:42
get that. Yeah, I just caught it, Bye, just caught Well,
53:44
you're in here smelling the mold. I mean here sneezing. Yeah,
53:47
center's in here sneezing. But anyway, so we're out episode four eight four
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Claude by Lions. We're back on Thursday. We'll preview West Virginia and the
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Ducane Dukes. As we open up the home schedule, will we open up
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the food court? Efforting will know Thursday. Efforting probably will not be this
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weekend. Don't say that. Probably will not be this weekend. People like
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to make it hard. That's outrageous. Working on and doing a nice community
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event would be great for the game day atmosphere. Just trying to work on
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things, just trying to help where it to help. I would like people
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to help us. Just here to help. Okay, ay, ye hand
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out. Hey, don't forget the great folks at Comax are having their annual
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There's gonna be a lot of Gomart pit stops for fans coming up.
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Send us some pictures. Three guys also brought Save your food selection when you
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