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Remembering The Amazing Kreskin! #211 · The Magic Guys

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Are we guys? Do we do magic? Are we the magic guys?
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Is that our intro, Nick? Are we live? We are live. It didn't play the intro,
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though. No, I did it for us.
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We're guys. We do magic. We're the magic guys live on the Internet.
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There's the there's the intro. Well, welcome to the Magic Guys podcast.
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Episode two, one, one. I'm your host, magician Nick Kane. And joining me this
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week is the illustrious Doug Kahn. Say hi, Doug.
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Bonsoir, mon ami. So bonjour, I guess, if you're in Australia.
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It's daylight time still. It's evening in Las Vegas. How y'all doing?
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Yeah, well, so yes, sunny Melbourne is. It's only 11 a.m. here,
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but you have now made the big move to Las Vegas. And how is that going, friend?
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I mean, it's been, you know, it's actually been great.
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Arriving in Las Vegas with the wife and the cats. The whole transition has gone well.
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Our furniture is late, so that's kind of weird, but we're getting by. I don't know.
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I don't think we've chatted since I drove here from New Orleans,
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but man, we went through a sandstorm in Arizona. I thought I was going to die, literally. Whoa.
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What's the client? It's insane. They call them a haboob. It's 60 mile an hour winds.
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And this lasted for 90 minutes through the desert of Arizona.
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I'm white knuckling it with, you know, you can see 20 feet in front of you.
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Tumbleweeds are bashing into the car and breaking. And these tumbleweeds are like not little.
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You know tumbleweeds are big kidding me it
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was harrowing i think is the word so you're
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you're in the suv you're holding a trailer so it
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was just that we're driving a corolla cross it's like an suv yeah
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no trailer we get our stuff's being
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delivered in a pod storage unit that's how that's going down
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but it was a full car you know there's no room
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in the car and man literally you can't see 20 feet in front of you never wanted
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to come in here says i thought you said a seance storm could you imagine that
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just everywhere i was trying to catch a ride and it was just like you want to
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believe it man the ghost of christmas spirit was all like hi.
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Hitchhiking but guys thank you for being here in the chat thomas congo scotty
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p tim asking thank you all for being here we have a question from scotty he
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just wants to affirmation he wants to know did the cats the cats made it they're
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they're starting to adjust yesterday our third piece of furniture we bought was a little cat bed.
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So they're all happy to have their own sofa now.
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They have technically more couch than we do at this point.
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It's hilarious. It'd be like, oh, the cats have this palace to live in and you like sleep on the floor.
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Yeah. I mean, it is their universe. I just live in it. So we accommodate them as best we can.
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Yeah. Do you have cats? Do you have any pets, Nick?
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I don't know. I love the idea of having pets, but because I am an animal lover,
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I don't, I feel it's unfair to have animals
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cooped up in a one bedroom apartment when I work as
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much as I do and especially i travel as much as i do and it's purely
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because of that that i i would not like i
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i can't say more than anything i'd come home and i think myself like
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i'd love it if i had a labrador yeah you know like
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you're right the way you're like a super bachelor heavy worker travel a lot
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that's not conducive you might get by with like a gerbil correct yeah or a snake
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that would be ideal because even like this this very weekend i'm off to brisbane
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where i'll be teaming up with the good guys at the theater of magic.
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Yep. And there's also a magic convention called the assembly.
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There is going to be an abundance of really awesome lecturers and so forth.
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You know, Christian grace, if you want to look it up, look up the assembly or
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through Piper magic, who's putting that together. So we'll be up there for that convention.
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I'll be flying up on Friday. I get to hang out with Nobito, which is great. He sends us love.
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He just like you, Doug, for the listeners, he's currently moving house himself.
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And that's why he was unable to kind of make it today
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but yes scotty p is also going to be there at the
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assembly one of our awesome listeners and in the chat and
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i'm looking forward to hanging out with him because that guy always blows my mind every
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time we hang out so no doubt it's gonna be
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a great weekend yeah and for that reason i don't
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do pets curious what's a
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attendance at an event like this or do you know is it
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a new thing or will it be okay good
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good question so last time we had the assembly we
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that was in 2019 and we've not done one since i
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wonder why yeah that that kind of happens when
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we did do it it was amazing we had we had jason ladani
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and we had dan harlan wow so
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piper spending a few bucks to get some talent across the
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seeds that's cool it was amazing it was actually really really
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well done i had the pleasure of emceeing i i was you
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know like this workshop that dan harlan did was one of the best things
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that i've ever seen the guy's genius is
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like you don't appreciate it until it's in front of you like
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and and he's unboxing brilliant ideas
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and putting it together for you so that was really really
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wonderful so yeah unfortunately it's been
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many years and we're doing one again you know we we were begging him to do it
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for a long time and the lineup this year is going to be pretty great as well
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with some awesome international acts so yeah by all means scope it out and those
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guys will also be performing at the theater of magic on the uh saturday night
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the night before. So I'm actually informing.
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Yeah. So for me, I mean, no pressure, but I have to follow Christian grace.
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Yeah you know come on
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that's probably a good spot
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for you you know i love christian grace but i might think
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of him more of a creator you know and a
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genius level thinker but you know it's time
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to rock the house you want a guy who's done a thousand shows i don't know what
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his professional life's like is he a pro performer i don't know that's a good
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question man i know you are you know i'll take a pro performer and a close spot
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over a great magician you know theoretically any day of the week.
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I love Christian Grace's material.
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Well, the cool thing is that after this weekend, we can talk about it a whole
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bunch in next week's episode.
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So for those of you who are listening today, do not miss next week because this
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week we are actually paying some respects to someone who had only passed away last year in December.
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I had wrote this report some while ago with the intention of paying our respects
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to the greats as we do in all of our history podcasts.
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So i think without any further ado we
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should begin the story of the amazing creskin are
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we ready to begin let's do it here's that's
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the intro for the yeah we need some beatboxing or something no norbeeto no beatboxes
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no no audio clips we're struggling today put your hat on backwards perhaps so
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we can just fill the gaps maybe let's try that look the samuel jackson Kangol look. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. It doesn't work too good for me. No.
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What about an eye patch? I can get an eye patch from the back.
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I got some Groucho glasses, something like that.
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That'd be kind of cool if you had an eye patch and then you did this and then
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it became two and that was your blindfold and then you did a blindfold routine.
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Cool. Let me go in the warehouse. I'll be right back.
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All right. While you're doing that, let me tell this story.
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Let's learn about Kreskin instead. Let's do it.
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George Joseph Kresge, formerly known as the Amazing Kreskin,
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was born January 12, 1935, in the bustling suburban town of Montclair, New Jersey.
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From an incredibly young age, Kreskin exhibited a deep fascination with the
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mysterious and the extraordinary.
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His journey into the world of magic and mentalism began when he was only five
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years old, inspired by the classic comic strip Mandrake the Magician.
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Mandrake was a fictional stage character with hypnotic powers with a knack for solving crime.
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It captured Kreskin's imagination and planted the seed, but would later become his lifelong pursuit.
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We don't actually have this in Oz, Mandrake.
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Yeah, he's pretty prominent, you know, kind of a vintage, really classic magic figure in the States.
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You know, maybe a little passe these days, but I can see how
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Kreskin would be inspired by this you
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know certainly this image of a magician that solves crimes
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and stuff and you know yeah yeah so this was just like a short three panel strip
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in in newspapers back in the day i think it might have been a full-fledged comic
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book and man did someone make a show of mandrake i'm not sure but i think it
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was more of an actual page turner but also maybe the strip too.
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We found a we found a great spot in my my knowledge
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there okay well yeah i mean i i tried looking it
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up but yeah i couldn't find the the minor details with
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that time period so right but what i did find out
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was this by age seven kreskin had
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already begun performing for small magic tricks
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for his family neighbors and school friends these weren't just simple card tricks
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he was experimenting with such psychological aspects of performance such as
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using subtle gestures and influencing what the audience had noticed even at
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a young age kreskin displayed an uncanny ability to engage and mesmerize people,
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a skill that would later be the hallmark of his career.
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As he grew older, Kreskin's obsession with understanding how people think and behave deepened.
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He began studying psychology independently during his teenage years,
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devouring books on suggestion, hypnosis, and the mysteries of the mind.
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This self-taught Foundation prepared him for his formal studies later on,
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where he combined his academic rigor with his innate curiosity.
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In high school, Creskin became known as the kid with the magic tricks,
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frequently impressing his classmates with slighter hand and the ability to seemingly read minds.
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Yet, even at this stage, he was less interested in the flashy aspects of magic
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and more drawn to the psychological underpinnings, how the human brain processes
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information and how it can be used to guide and focus and misdirect attention.
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So this passion led him to Seton Hall University, where he formally studied
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psychology in the late 1950s.
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At Seton Hall, Kreskin delved into subjects such as perception,
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memory, and the power of suggestion, all which would later become the building
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blocks for his mentalism performances.
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His academic work was driven by a single question.
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How far could human thought and behavior be understood and influenced by the
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fact that with subtle cues.
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He treated his university years not as a means to learn, but as a laboratory
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where he could experiment with the principles that would later define his career.
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That's pretty cool. Yep.
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You know? Like, even during his time at the university, Kreskin continued to
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perform, honing his skills at small local events and private parties.
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What set him apart from other performers was his ability to integrate his academic
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learning into his acts, creating a performance style that was equal parts entertainment
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and psychological experiment.
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The guy's kind of the real deal when you think about it, don't you think?
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Yeah, he kind of blurred the lines. He didn't really call himself like,
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I guess he did proclaim to have a little bit of mental powers,
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but maybe not be psychic per se.
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And he would often do also like magic tricks in his show where,
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you know, it was just a trick, but he wouldn't call it a magic trick either.
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You know it was like a gray area but yeah yeah
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i wonder you know i wonder how much of this bio
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is like he was in college studying
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these things and then went on or then he went to college to
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like pursue like how do you pursue memory work in the 50s that's a good point
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i'll cover that because we leap into the 1960s and the 70s so yeah so he's earlier
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it's a great question so his earlier life was a mixture of the curiosity and
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everything that surrounded the magic.
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But by the time he graduated college, he was not just a magician,
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he was a mentalist who had already laid the groundwork for the career,
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which now, in his later years, would astonish millions.
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After completing his studies at certain whole university, he transitioned from
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performing at small local events to becoming one of the most sought-after mentalists in the world.
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His career took off in the 1960s and the 70s, an era where live performances
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and television appearances played a crucial role in building a performer's reputation.
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What made Kreskin stand out was his ability to combine the drama of stage magic
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with the psychological intrigue of mind reading, earning him the title The Amazing Kreskin.
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So his first major breakout on television was on The Tonight Show starring Johnny
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Carson. I was going to guess that. It had to be Johnny Carson.
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Johnny Carson did so much for Magic. It might even be worth doing a history lesson on him.
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If you guys think that would be kind of cool, because when you see so many of
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these ones that we do in the past, whenever anyone does anything great in the States, especially,
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I don't know, I guess with the time period and my age and us being in Australia,
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I don't even know if it was broadcasted here in Oz.
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But if it is something you guys would like to figure out or learn,
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if Johnny Carson did play a role, I'll do the research. Just put it in the comments.
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Yes. Tell us about Johnny Carson and I'll, uh, I'll look into it for you guys.
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Now, I would love history of all the magicians that he put on that show.
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And I also love to see a compilation of all those performances and you can see
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many of them on YouTube, but have it all under one umbrella. That would be.
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Absolutely. Cause he really did. like you said he did
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so much for magic and you know when i was a young man this
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is what a rare opportunity to see some amazing artists you know pre-internet
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pre-dvd johnny would have you know if he had a magician on i was staying up
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late that night i'm sure yeah and for those that don't know carson was a foreman
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magician himself which i learned while doing this research on kreskin so.
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So he was captivated like captivated by kreskin as
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a whole so like for a magician it's a beautiful moment like
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with talent knows talent and then away you
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go so kreskin's performance on the show
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was nothing short of spectacular he would
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ask members of the audience to think of specific objects names
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or places and then accurately reveal
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their thoughts these segments quickly became audience
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favorites and kreskin went on to appear on the show over 80
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times what on the tonight show
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yeah 80 times yep 80
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times and that's just a testament to his popularity that is
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right that should be a record i would imagine it probably would be it probably
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would be i should have actually uh that one he must have been a good fill-in
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for johnny johnny's like hey uh john wayne canceled can you get over here kresky
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yeah well he became a regular guest on several shows when I did my research.
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So his charisma, along with his astonishing feats, made him a regular guest
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on other talk shows, including the Merv Griffin show.
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Yeah, I remember that. Yep. There was Late Night with David Letterman.
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Okay. The Mike Douglas show as well. Yeah. All the old school. Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, those are talk shows from like the 70s, right?
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Yeah. So I guess that would be the equivalent of being like he did Fallon.
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He did Kimmel. Yeah. Did.
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Yeah. Yeah. Some of those are like morning shows. Some of those are afternoon shows. He got around.
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Yeah. So these appearances brought Creskin into the millions of homes and helped
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solidify his reputation as a world-class performer.
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His ability to predict outcomes, find objects, and read minds fascinated audiences
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sparked widespread discussion about whether his abilities were real or just
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cleverly executed illusion.
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In the 1970s, Kreskin's fame reached new heights when he starred in his own
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syndicate television series, The Amazing World of Kreskin.
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The show featured his signature mentalism routines, as well as live audience participation.
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One of the most thrilling parts of the show was Criskin's ability to find his paycheck.
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I love this idea.
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I'll mention it a few times as we go along through the stories.
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So his paycheck, which was hidden by the audience before the performance began, right?
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If he failed to locate it, he forfeited his pay. That's a hook.
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Bro, it's a daring challenge, most definitely, right? And it added to the mystique of what he did.
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And I believe he almost always found it is what it said.
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Like, that'd be pretty gnarly. Imagine like you putting out there,
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like being that caliber of magician, it would be like a $10,000 sort of fee.
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And you're just going like, I'm going to hide it. And if I can't find it, I'm broke.
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Like that is. I find it surprising. There would be times where he didn't find
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it. Like his method was fallible.
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That's like. well this is the thing this is the
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1970s my guy like he's not as if he's got
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some sort of like beacon like me now have the
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earbud 3000 right yeah
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yeah so so the show not only entertained viewers but also gave kreskin a platform
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to showcase his mentalism abilities his act included everything from hypnosis
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and suggesting to large-scale predictions right it cemented his place as one
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of the greatest psychological performers.
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Kreskin didn't just captivate audiences in the US, though. He became an international phenomenon.
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His live tours took him across other countries such as Italy,
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Japan, Canada, and the United Kingdom, where he continued to astonish crowds with his mentalism.
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Some of the most memorable international feats were in Italy,
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and I'll explain these a little bit further down the track, but Kreskin,
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would have locals hide objects in the
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public square and using only the clues like he
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had to find them using clues like by the audience in japan
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he didn't speak the language but he was
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still able to read minds in
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canada there was a major hockey game naturally and he
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was able to like predict that with like
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amazing accuracy so i'll
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tell them in a little more in depth a bit later on but it's
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it's really inspiring it's super inspiring when
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a magician or any performer decides i'm international
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now and they hit the road and like i'm gonna go to japan no
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i don't speak japanese but i'm good enough we'll work this out yeah what i what
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i love about this is that his influence on pop culture i really dig this bit
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as i was doing it because as his fame grew his influence on pop culture did
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as well now he became so frequent on tv shows and movies that And even in comics,
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his name became synonymous with mind reading to the point where people would
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say, you're pulling a Kreskin.
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Yeah, let me see if, can I share screens? I was looking like,
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we got a few titles on our website at Trick Supply.
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I don't have the ability to share right now because I'm technically.
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Oh, maybe I can do that. Oh, there we go.
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Like, here's one. Look at this guy. This must have been released in the 70s.
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He's wearing like a denim shirt with fat collars.
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Kreskin's Mindpower book. So I guess this would, yeah, 1977,
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second book that Kreskin wrote.
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And there's several titles in our inventory. I think someone recently found
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a stockpile of old Kreskin tomes that were released back in the day for the general public.
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Yeah, I tried looking up his entire discography, and I did make mention of it
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a little later in the storyline, But I'll definitely make mention of those.
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And of course, if you guys want to scope it out.
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You got some more. All right. I'll quit trying to pretend to be technically
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savvy here and you can unleash.
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Just go back to talking, Nick. Okay.
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So I want to talk about some of his notable predictions. So throughout his career,
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Chris King became famous for his large scale predictions.
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Some of the most notable ones are this. He predicted the outcome of political
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elections, including famous incidents where in the 1970s, he correctly forecasted
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an Italian election result before the votes were counted.
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He was making predictions about global events, sports outcomes,
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and even the trends in the entertainment industry.
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These bold statements kept audiences intrigued and ensured that he would remain
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a topic of conversation.
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There was also some unconventional challenges. One of Kreskin's trademarks was
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his willingness to take on these really gnarly challenges.
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For example, he often asked members of the audience to hide objects or write
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down secrets, which would later be uncovered with uncanny precision.
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This interactively not only engaged audiences, but it also blurred the line
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between the performer and the participant because there was this notion of like,
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how could he know that? Is he legit?
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But I guess he blows that line beautifully by going, I'm highly educated in
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this realm and I also practice it because I am magical.
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So, Kreskin's career is filled with remarkable moments that left audiences stunned
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and cemented his reputation as one of the greatest mentalists of all time.
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Here are some of the most memorable performances that he did.
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So, of course, there was the paycheck challenge.
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One of Kreskin's, so what he would do is before the show, an audience member
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would hide the paycheck somewhere in the venue.
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The rule was simple. If Kreskin couldn't locate it, at the end of the performance, he wouldn't get paid.
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It wasn't just a publicity stunts it was literal high stakes and it was just
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drama being added to every performance i'm thinking if i couldn't find it suddenly
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my performance is longer right.
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Well day three doug's on his hands and knees looking under the chair hey buddy
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how are you going finding that paycheck,
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He's like, oh, I've just got four more routines. We've been here for three weeks, Doug Conn.
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There's six devoted fans left in the theater. Yay!
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Oh, my. Okay, so he relied on subtle cues from the audience's body language
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and reactions to track down his hidden paycheck.
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Astonishingly, he almost always found it, whether it was tucked under a seat,
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taped to a ceiling, or sometimes hidden inside a piano.
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In one notable instance, Creston located his paycheck after it had been buried
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under a pile of books backstage.
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This challenge became a fan favorite. It was one of the most amazing elements
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of his show and it highlighted his ability to engage in the audience in a completely unique way.
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I challenge anyone else to do that. No way.
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We got ifuji in the comments says he's fit. The comment was,
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I failed to find the check nine out of 6,000 times.
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Oh my God. I had a haunting experience in New Zealand where the paycheck was $50,000.
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Oh my Jesus.
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Wow. That's a check that you'll want to find probably. Yeah. Yeah. You betcha.
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Do you have any, any thoughts on his methods for doing this?
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Are we talking about like any of how he might've accomplished that?
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Man, you know, like you can, you can take the easy route by going,
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he would just stooge it in some capacity or,
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If I'm not mistaken, the guy's was that he was using the spectator's body language to guide him.
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So he would hold a spectator or they would hold a handkerchief or something like that.
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And he would supposedly use their influence to guide him.
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That sounds like poppycock, but maybe.
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I'm half wondering if it's some
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sort of kinesiology-based type thing with like a bit of muscle testing.
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You know that thing they do? you know how reliable
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is that when you're looking under a stack of books man it's
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like oh yeah dude yeah i would
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i would have to have a stooge involved like even if it's someone on my team
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who's watching them hide it or you know sometimes you can you can pre-show things
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to a degree where you make it like i i lean very heavily into this when i do
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any sort of routines of this nature where I'll say,
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the notion is this, be restrictive.
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Without seeming restricting.
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So it's the type of thing where I'll tell somebody of all the colors of the rainbow, choose one.
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Now, what that sounds like is name any color, but it's not. They're not going
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to name fuchsia. Yes. Right.
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Yeah, there's like eight colors in the rainbow. So, well, seven technically,
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but they can really choose from.
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So you just sort of say like, you know, of all the colors of the rainbow, choose one.
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So, you got a one in eight chance of sort of getting things involved at that
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point. You know what I mean?
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So like whatever it is, whatever thoughts he had, it's obviously diabolical,
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but yeah, this, this, this town square search in Italy was an interesting one actually.
25:28
So not in a theater, but outside in the public.
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Yeah. So he's taken the same principle, but done it further.
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So here's, here's what I, my research found. So during a performance in Italy,
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Crescom was asked to locate a hidden object that had been concealed somewhere in a public square.
25:47
The item was a small key, okay, and had been hidden by a local volunteer in
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an area surrounded by hundreds of onlookers.
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Using only mental cues, subtle body language from the crowd,
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Kreskin navigated to the square, located the key in a flower pot at the edge
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of the square, and the audience lost their minds.
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The performance became one of Kreskin's most celebrated international moments,
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demonstrating his abilities to transcend language and cultural barriers.
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That's gnarly like there's a story of david burglas doing the same thing.
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Where i can't remember what the object was but i
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read it in i'm pretty sure i read it in the burglas effect where
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he was they it was an object that was hidden
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and it was basically like
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on an island surrounded by water like there
26:39
and he had to he was like going around the city doing this type of
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thing and then ended up going there like you
26:45
know and finding it like it's just it's
26:49
so gnarly but you gotta you gotta appreciate the gravity of
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this as well you know the showmanship alone like
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the thought process involved is pretty great like when the stakes are
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high the stakes are high i mean at the end of the day that's
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what made kreskin great his showmanship right he
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was a very strong performer so you could
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have this effect is killer but if your showmanship sucks it
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doesn't matter absolutely and but what i
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love is this next story especially which
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is him mind reading in japan so on a
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tour in japan kreskin faced this really unique
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challenge performing for an audience that largely spoke no english
27:24
despite the language barrier he successfully
27:28
demonstrated his mind reading abilities kreskin asked
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several volunteers to think of personal details such as their
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favorite childhood memory or an object that they are
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imagining and he was able to describe those thoughts
27:40
with incredible accuracy for one instance he correctly
27:44
identified a japanese man's childhood pet as
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a white dog which had never been mentioned aloud.
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The man was so astonished he began like bowing repeatedly in disbelief just
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blown his mind like that's that's crazy so once again it just solidified not
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only that his magic can transcend languages.
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As far as him being able to break these barriers of the linguistic entities
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involved with being a mentalist, when language is so important,
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suggestion is so important, and the cultural differences, that's enormous.
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Yeah, it's terrifying even as a magician where we can rely on visible magic and stuff like that.
28:29
But to think about taking my act to, say, Japan, where people don't speak English is unfathomable.
28:35
For what I'm doing with just sleight of hand magic, doing minimalism.
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I mean, how many times have you tried to do an effect where there is a level
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of suggestion or even a magic effect where they just need to follow very basic
28:48
instructions and you ask them, do this or say this, and they still muff it up.
28:54
Like, you know, like I can't tell you how many times I've said,
28:57
like, choose a value between one and 13, you know, like as in like ace through
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10, jack, queen or king, choose a value and they go spade and i go that's not
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what i said yeah what i said was choose a value,
29:13
dickhead so yeah so there's that alone like phenomenal but there was also one
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where in in canada so during a live performance in canada kreska made headlines
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by predicting the outcome of a major hockey game the prediction was made in
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front of a live audience and written down on a sealed card,
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which was then stored in a locked box.
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After the game, the card was open and it revealed not only the winning team,
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but also the exact final score.
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It was a feat that baffled everyone in attendance.
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The prediction created a media buzz and reinforced Kreskin's reputation as a master of foresight.
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And some skeptics attempted to explain that it was a coincidence or guesswork,
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but for those who saw it live said it was nothing short of a miracle.
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A right i'm wondering
30:03
what his influences were beyond mandrake i'm
30:06
kind of rewinding a little bit because it had to be more
30:09
than that you know it was who was going on 60s dunninger he was probably a guy
30:16
that'd be some dunninger ploy stuff there for sure but you know also you sort
30:21
of need to appreciate that he probably was heavily influenced by the academics
30:25
yeah and he just kind of wrote his own story,
30:28
I guess, because he was a four-figure for mentalism as public performance art.
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There was guys doing it.
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Alexander, the man who knows, right? We could go back to that.
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I had the pleasure of seeing his turban in the Copperfield Museum.
30:45
This guy used radio technology before it was popular.
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He built it into the turban. He had the guy on the stage telling him the information.
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And yeah, any technology is like magic before we know it's technology,
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right? Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, you know, Blackstone, oh, actually, Scotty just mentioned that.
31:04
Blackstone was also kind of amazing in that realm as well, where he was doing
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those sliding light bulbs.
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And I guess at that time in life, like it's pretty...
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Pretty rare that's that's magic though you know i'm
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thinking like how can you say i'm going
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to perform minimalism as a performance art
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and get fifty thousand dollar checks that
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i may or may not find you know like i've
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like i got luggage tags for example that are like about
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as thick as maybe a credit card
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four or five playing cards right
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and you put it like you can put it in your wallet and that would be like
31:39
your air attack for where your wallet is and so forth but
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man like we're talking about a paycheck in an envelope it's
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probably probably a ton of transparency in it as well like it's
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you know yeah and no technology in
31:52
the 70s could have you know supplied what he needed for that
31:54
effect yeah yeah yeah no chance no chance
31:58
like you'd have to be a pretty big operation maybe with a
32:01
ton of confederates even if it was like done legitimately but everyone
32:04
was kind of watching it happen and then
32:07
somehow like speak easing it to him in some
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of this what if he really had mind powers and then sometimes he
32:13
would just do magic tricks on the side to make the
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smarties not know he really had the goods it's like
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let me throw a nail bend in here so no one knows i'm really predicting the future
32:23
have you ever been criticized of that where someone's like you're you're really
32:28
magic and you're just you're cosplaying as a human you know I've had a couple
32:32
people not happy to be around me because what I was doing and I,
32:36
and I was thinking, wow, you're stupid.
32:40
Magic trip.
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I mean, I'm not, I'm not Mr. Mr. Mystery guy when I'm performing.
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It's not, I don't even pretend it's real for a minute.
32:51
So I don't know how someone's like, yeah, it's one of those things where like,
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if, if you were truly magic and magic costs some of your essence to do what
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you had to do, like genuinely, like it cost some of your essence.
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Would you use a cutting rope?
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No. Would I have a sponge bunny? Probably not. Yeah. You know? So...
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I call myself a magician, but I've just professed to be somebody with a high set of skills.
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I don't even say that anymore. I guess I say it in the generality,
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but when I'm telling people what I do, I'm a sleight-of-hand artist is what
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I like to think of myself.
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It's not magic. It's entertaining, skill-based, amazing effects.
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It's funny. things of this nature i haven't really seen
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done before the last time i can remember someone
33:42
doing a prediction of this caliber as far as the outcome of a game rich ferguson
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did one on youtube where he predicted the super bowl i think and it really launched
33:53
him into the sphere after that that's the only thing i could think of as far
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as anyone else doing that yeah trying to think of any prominent.
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Predictions of recent note if there
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was any they weren't prominent enough for me yeah yeah
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maybe it's good that they're forgettable so they're repeatable
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perhaps maybe the performers just aren't good at promotion you know that's probably
34:18
more likely yeah there's some great hits for doing predictions these days yeah
34:22
but here's the thing right hockey game for example would typically typically
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be single digits as far as a you know like a score would be.
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It might be 6-0 or 6-5 or even 3-0.
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We're talking three-minute periods. It's not three minutes, three periods in
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a hockey game, and away you go.
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When he predicted the political election, so in the 1970s, he accurately predicted
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the results of this national election.
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So before the votes were counted, Kreskin revealed his prediction to a room
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of journalists when the officials results were announced the prediction was
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spot on like spot on so we're talking a population now big numbers.
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You know it's like what
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i'm saying is that if i had a thumb writer
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i could do something of that nature a single digit
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but if i had to write and in population where
35:20
there's like a million people here in melbourne alone and i'll have to write
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that 648 944 like come on man i can't do that like you know yeah yeah he must
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have some cool methods yeah this wasn't the only time that he actually did that.
35:38
He also correctly forecasted several US president elections as well during his career.
35:44
I bet before he did it, he had a room full of journalists.
35:47
Yeah. Just like you said, the first story, you know, right.
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Yeah. And, and again, the, the predictions just kept adding to his mystique,
35:53
you know, and it kept the audiences wondering about like, you know,
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what is it? Was it rooted into intuition?
35:58
Is it psychology? Is it something supernatural?
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What is it? But this one, this story that I found, and I just kept finding more
36:06
and more and more, but this one blew, there's a couple of more. This one blew my mind.
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During a live performance in New York, Kreskin was approached by a volunteer
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who claimed to have lost a family heirloom.
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It was a gold watch and they lost it weeks prior.
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The man asked Kreskin, could you help me locate it?
36:24
Now, except in the challenge, Kreskin asked the man to close his eyes and focus
36:27
on the last time. I remember seeing the watch.
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And after a few moments of silence, Kreskin directed the man.
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He said, check the pocket of an old winter coat stored in the attic.
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The man later confirmed that the watch was exactly where Kreskin had described it.
36:45
Come on, man. That's like some Uri Geller stuff there. Come on, man.
36:50
I mean, Uri Geller, do you remember when, you probably don't remember this,
36:54
but I'm pretty sure, I think it might've been an Australian company.
36:57
They paid him a ridiculous amount of money to fly around a helicopter to predict
37:03
where there's oil to be dug.
37:05
You know? I dig. Uri Geller, come on, man.
37:09
Like, you know, this is why I love the Institute of Magic in Australia.
37:14
So the australian institute of magic like one of
37:17
the things we have is that like we don't believe what we're
37:20
doing is real we do it for entertainment purposes irigella
37:24
doing stuff like that was kind of like bro like that's
37:27
charlatan that's you should i don't know it was
37:30
totally taboo like yeah now he's
37:33
all buddy buddy with the magic world but back
37:36
in the day it was like not that way at all i
37:40
think johnny carson i don't johnny carson busted
37:43
him on the tonight show was kreskin involved with
37:46
that there was some magician oh they had they had geller on and had him ready
37:52
to do a stunt and then they tricked him to where he couldn't pull it off yeah
37:56
i thought it was actually with randy james randy oh yeah randy randy these spoons
38:02
if memory serves yeah and he was like.
38:06
Trying to do a spoon bend you know yeah i
38:09
love that yeah but what i
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love about this is the more i started him the more i started seeing these
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parodies between him and the amazing nature of
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which darren brown performs so for example on the
38:22
mike douglas show kreskin performed a mass hypnosis
38:26
act that became one of his most talked about television
38:29
appearances he hypnotized a group
38:31
of audience members simultaneously instructing them to act
38:35
as though they were driving race cars in
38:38
a race all right what followed was a hilarious yet very
38:41
impressive display as the volunteers mimicked steering wheels and made car noises
38:45
and were completely unaware of their surroundings right so chriskin's ability
38:48
to influence a group of people right in that dramatic way showcased his mastery
38:53
of suggestion and psychological influences like it's it's a testament to again.
39:01
Almost reinventing magic in a sense the same way that Darren Brown did so when
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you see the scale this guy works on,
39:07
That to me just blows my mind. And also this, he's working like out of his pockets for the most part.
39:13
That's a huge win. He's just like, what are his props?
39:17
You know, it's not like he has to wheel around the death saw,
39:20
like David Copperfield or, you know, 12 cast members and yada, yada.
39:25
Yeah. Like, you know, 18 wheeler trucks, you know, rocking up and doing whatever they got to do.
39:31
Like that's. Bring your thumb writer and your book for the book cast.
39:34
Take about 20 minutes to find that check. and then it shows over.
39:39
Now, again, there's probably countless stories, but there's just one more I
39:43
want to make mention before we move on to his later life and his legacy, and it's this.
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Kreskin often used his stills for more personal challenges.
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In one story, a couple approached him during a performance, asking him for help
39:56
with their troubled relationship.
39:58
Kreskin invited them on stage and asked them to write down their biggest concerns
40:02
on these separate cards, which were then sealed in envelopes.
40:06
After a few moments of thought kreskin revealed what
40:08
each had written and encouraged them to communicate openly
40:12
about these issues the couple later credited
40:15
kreskin with helping them understand each other better and saving their marriage
40:20
a unique and heartwarming example of the ability to connect with people on a
40:25
personal level come on come on talk about that's so clever and cute
40:33
i mean i thought i'd do it in a cute way my roving sets where
40:36
you know it's like i get a guy to say
40:39
stop and i go you count that count that amount of cards and
40:42
i say to the lady i go choose a number one two three or four and she's just
40:45
four and i throw four cards down and i go how many cards do you have because
40:48
i have 10 i go this many and i turn over one of the cards and it's 10 and i
40:52
turn over all four cards and it's the four tens and i'm like wow you two are
40:55
so in sync that's amazing I thought that was cool That is cool No,
41:01
but that's still cool for a card trick Oh, thanks, man No, it is cool It's Hobson,
41:05
sir So, yeah Is it Hobson's your plot?
41:09
Yeah It's great I'll talk you through it later.
41:14
So these stories exemplify Creskin's extraordinary talents and his ability to
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leave a lasting impression on audiences worldwide Each performance was a blend
41:22
of psychology intuition and showmanship creating moments of awe and wonder that
41:26
remain unforgettable to those who witness them.
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Amen. So as Kreskin aged, his passion for mentalism and the art of performance never waned.
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Into his later years, he remained an active and highly respected figure in the entertainment world.
41:42
His career spanned more than seven decades.
41:46
A testament to his dedication at adaptability, which I can't even speak. That's how good he was.
41:53
Adaptability, adaptability, that's better adaptability and
41:56
timeless appeal welling to
41:59
his 70s and 80s kreskin continued to perform
42:01
live shows proving that his talents were as sharp as ever his
42:05
performance remained interactive and dynamic
42:08
and the audiences of all ages were captivated by his ability
42:11
to read minds predict outcomes and
42:14
uncover hidden objects kreskin often quipped that
42:17
mentalism kept him sharp and it was clear that
42:21
his love for the craft was as strong as when he first started his
42:24
live shows became more intimate over time after taking
42:28
often taking place in smaller
42:30
venues where he could engage directly with his audiences these
42:34
performances offered fans a unique up-close experience of his abilities showcasing
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the personal and charismatic side of kreskin that endeared him to so many in
42:46
his later years kreskin authored several books sharing the insights and techniques of the psychological.
42:53
Uh, the, sorry, the philosophy behind his work.
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The books include the amazing world of Kreskin, Kreskin confidential,
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and the secrets of the amazing Kreskin.
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There is more, but these are the most like the ones you can actually get.
43:08
And of course we can get them from well, trick supply.com has them for sure.
43:12
Yeah. Is it this type in Kreskin in the search bar?
43:15
You'll find four or five items that come up. And look, if you're a video learner
43:20
in the five minutes i had pre-show i grabbed this off our dvd shelf you can
43:24
be amazing just like kreskin and i'm gonna take this home and i don't have my
43:29
dvd player yet it'll be here tomorrow.
43:33
My furniture is still on route i don't you know i don't
43:35
the cats have a couch not me absolutely yeah and they'll
43:39
probably be mad if you try to share it with them so you know they get
43:41
territorial but these teachings explore topics such
43:44
as the power of suggestion the psychology of
43:47
human behavior and how people can improve their focus and
43:50
intuition in everyday life his books were
43:52
not only instructional but inspirational offering readers
43:56
tools to better understand themselves and others you
43:59
know he also had he had a board game kreskin's board game psychic things i saw
44:06
it in the window of a vintage shop in new orleans one day i'm walking by i'm
44:09
like the kreskin board game like wonder who licensed that right it looked like
44:16
you know something from Mattel,
44:17
like the Ouija board people kind of thing. Yeah.
44:20
Wow. Yeah. I bet that's a nice collectible. You get a, get a Kreskin board game.
44:25
That would be cool. Yeah. So.
44:28
Through his writing, Kreskin extended his legacy to aspiring magicians,
44:32
mentalists, and anyone curious about the mysteries of the mind.
44:35
Even as he stepped back from a spotlight in his later years,
44:39
Kreskin's influence remained deeply embedded in pop culture.
44:43
His name became synonymous with mind reading and intuition.
44:47
Often references in movies and TV shows, saying that he was pulling a Kreskin.
44:53
I guess it's probably an older saying, but Speaking of movies,
45:01
is the great Buck Howard in your story here? The great Buck Howard? No.
45:08
Let me see if I can share screen again here. This is a gem of a film,
45:14
and it features John Malkovich, Colin Hanks, and even Tom Hanks is this in this movie.
45:23
And this is essentially a reflection of Kreskin later in life.
45:30
So, boy, John Malkovich and Colin Hanks. Ricky Jay is in this movie.
45:34
Are you kidding me? So this is everyone's recommendation to watch later. It is a good film.
45:41
And it's not like the most glamorous look at Kreskin as it is looking at him
45:49
later in life and how someone that's declining in their later years might be struggling.
45:55
But yeah, the great Buck Howard.
45:59
Put that on your list if it's not already. Yeah, definitely.
46:02
That's movie recommendations.
46:04
There we go. That's a fun time. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
46:09
So I was trying to see if there was any sort of mentorships and so forth.
46:14
Although he didn't formally train students or establish a mentorship program,
46:17
many mentalists credit him as a massive inspiration for their craft.
46:21
His innovation of psychology and suggestion pushed the boundaries of what mentalism
46:25
could achieve, encouraging others to experiment and innovate within that art form.
46:30
Krescombe was also known for his generosity in sharing his knowledge.
46:33
He frequently attended magic conventions where he would interact with younger
46:36
performers, offering advice and encouragement.
46:39
His willingness to connect with aspiring magicians and mentalists ensured his
46:43
impact would continue to be felt for generations.
46:47
Kreskin's final performances was celebrated as a milestone of his incredible career.
46:53
While details of his very last performance remain elusive, it's widely recognized
46:58
that he continued to perform well into his late 80s. Love it.
47:03
Unreal, leaving audiences in awe to the very, very end.
47:07
His shows were a testament to his enduring skill and the joy he found in creating
47:11
connections with people in his
47:13
craft He stopped performing after being injured in a fall in early 2024,
47:20
He had a period of poor health in the weeks leading up until his death Chriskin
47:25
died from complications of dementia at an assisted living facility in Wayne,
47:31
New Jersey on December 10,
47:33
2024 At the age of 89 yeah
47:37
just a few months ago yeah yeah kreskin's
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life was a celebration of curiosity creativity and
47:44
the human mind's potential he transformed mentalism into a niche art from a
47:50
niche art let me say that again because he deserves this he transformed mentalism
47:54
from a niche art form into a global phenomenon inspiring countless performers
47:59
and leaving audiences with memories of the impossible.
48:02
His ability to connect with people, entertain with a sense of humor,
48:07
and make them question what they thought they knew about the world's.
48:13
Was just thrown out the window, honestly. But Kreskin, the real magic wasn't
48:19
in the tricks of the illusion.
48:20
It was about the connection he shared with the audience and the joy of creating
48:24
these moments of true wonder.
48:26
Kreskin will be missed and I'm really thankful we have an opportunity to remember him today.
48:32
It's so cool. I agree completely. And dude, thank you so much for putting together
48:37
that wonderful presentation.
48:38
I mean, I learned a lot today about Kreskin. yeah you yeah yeah man it's staggering
48:45
it's staggering how influential like.
48:48
I guess because he was really on the rise during
48:51
the rise of media and he knew how to make that work
48:54
for him you know with all the television shows and you
48:58
know i would say that has a lot to do with his popularity that
49:01
plus he's an original and you know
49:04
people ask me a lot i hear it from the kids and people want
49:07
to know how do you become good the way you
49:10
become good is you do something unique you know that no one
49:12
else is doing and he very much did that he found his own
49:15
his own style and was able to deliver something people haven't seen before or
49:21
if they had seen it not that way you know i guess you see it nowadays you know
49:25
i guess where he was coming up through the 50s where you know color television
49:29
and so forth were becoming a thing and talk shows and, and whatever else where,
49:33
you know, people would, you know, effectively be part of the audience in the lounge rooms.
49:37
You know, I don't think people nowadays are going to experience that.
49:40
Like we used to have a show. It was an awful show. It was called Hey, Hey, It's Saturday.
49:43
That was our Johnny Carson's, right?
49:47
And we were able to sit there in our lounge rooms as kids with the family,
49:50
watch it on a Saturday night and, and have a giggle.
49:53
You know what I mean? And we would have like, there's a hilarious,
49:56
if you watch that, you'll, you'll laugh your ass off.
49:58
We had like an ostrich puppet on the
50:01
show there was this thing called dicky knee and i
50:04
remember it scared the crap out of sophista stallone in one
50:07
of the interviews i remember as a kid growing up you know those days
50:11
are gone now you know now it's like they're using different mediums obviously
50:14
and they're using social media but what i really dislike
50:17
is that a lot of people ask me how to like do well
50:20
in magic and seldom is
50:23
the advice ever be good be
50:27
really good be so good be world-class good it's always get your promo right
50:34
look good get your but like and then what happens we hire you and you suck you
50:41
know i know one guy who is all about aesthetics all about aesthetics and.
50:47
And I guess this is a semi gig story because I was performing and I got,
50:51
I got to share this story real quick.
50:53
Cause it's just like, when you hear someone performing of this caliber versus
50:56
somebody else, who's all about the aesthetic, I was performing and I approached
51:00
this group and I say, hello, welcome.
51:02
I'm Nicholas is now a good time for magic. And she goes, do we have to do magic?
51:05
So of course not. What do you want to do? She goes, can we just have a chat? I go, sure.
51:10
What do you want to know? She's like.
51:12
Why do you do magic? And I go, cause it makes people happy. And she goes,
51:16
well, what makes you happy? And I said, making people happy. She goes, cool.
51:20
What was your favorite band in the nineties? I go this. And then she just asked
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me a mirada of questions.
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And I answered every one of them politely. And the guy, and I wasn't like in
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her face. I was in between these two dudes. She was like on the edge of the table on the far side.
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And I just sat with the guys and we just had a chat and I made us,
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I pulled us together. I'm like, just to make her feel comfortable for whatever
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reason, she was uncomfortable.
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I read the room and we had a chat about it. sometimes that's
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your job when you're the magician here's where
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i got great she then turns she then says okay i'm
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ready to see magic now and and i perform and actually before i do that the guys
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go she needed to establish trust before we do this and i said i understand that
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yeah not a problem i start performing my piece and it's blowing her mind and
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she's loving it she's like this is unbelievable.
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And she stopped me halfway through my set to tell me this. Like I wasn't done
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with my routine yet, but she stopped me and she said, five years ago,
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there was this magician who was so bad that I hate magic.
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And I went, where was it? And she told me where it was. And I went,
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I know exactly who this magician is. It was Josh Norbedo's house, huh?
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And I'm going to keep all the details out, but I'll fill you in off the air.
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And I'll show you a photograph because she took a, she goes, I hated it so much.
52:44
That's pretty bad, man. You couldn't let it go. You had to burn it into the memory.
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Yeah. She was like, he was so bad. i took a photograph of him because this guy
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was not very professional and probably not even sober.
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For this but it's just one of those
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things where aesthetically they're so
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great and they look so good but when
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they actually do the work yeah they're not
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and they forgot to care about the people
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they forgot to care about the people now you look
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at kreskin would you say that he is channing
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pollock movie star gorgeous and and was
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fighting girls off of the stick or the
53:25
exact opposite well maybe not
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i i'm sure he was classically handsome for sure
53:32
but the work speaks for
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itself the work do the
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work man do the good magic thing care about
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your audience give them a reason to care about your magic and
53:45
put on deodorant yeah in nick's
53:48
case roll it all over your body do i smell
53:54
that bad no i just know you're a deodorant fan
53:57
you put on that nose sweat stuff no sweat stuff
54:00
is important man and yeah and doing shows in
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brisbane where it's going to be considerably hotter i will be running a bathtub
54:05
of it for sure in my accommodation so yeah but man like i i gotta i admittedly
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i'm so impressed by by these stories i really am like it's it's it's so inspiring
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yeah like it's just staggering you know.
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So look, we're wrapping up soon. We got a few minutes left. I want to mention
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you're going to a convention next week. I'm going to a convention next week.
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I'm going to work my first dealer's booth with Trix Supply in St. Louis, Missouri.
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Awesome. It's a close-up convention. So if there's any kindred spirits listening,
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if you're going to be in St.
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Louis, you got about 20 hours. If you have a special request, I'll bring you.
54:44
Maybe, maybe you want the new Juan Tamari book. Let's go.
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Flamenco in the house. I got to do a little product promotion from trick supply.
54:54
You know, this is Juan's newest, really it's a trick book, which is kind of
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rare for him. You know, sometimes his books lately are all theory.
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You can't have this one. Cause it's mine now.
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It's just remarkable. Cause I, if I were in your position, I would be,
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I'd be paying to work there because I would just be hemorrhaging all my wages.
55:15
Don't tell my boss that. Cause I would, but so far this is working out.
55:22
No truth be told turns out having doug con in a magic shop's
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all right for the magic shop you know i think it's a good give and take
55:28
but yeah i am literally living the dream i mean
55:30
i was like what are we going to talk these are just the things that
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came across my desk today like here's a couple of
55:36
things i grabbed the christian we got the big headline from
55:40
david kaplan this is great he's actually
55:43
right in town he's going to be visiting us for the for the
55:46
magic festival i believe so yes indeed so i was happy to see that we got this
55:51
is ariola i can't pronounce the first name paviato which i recall reading his
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work in some early books from john mendoza he's a fissom award-winning artist
56:00
i think he did a duo act with tamarie back in the day what is his name.
56:06
Ariolo paviato let me put that right in the front there and i know he's got
56:11
some wonderful card and coin handlings.
56:13
I recall studying them, but I haven't seen a volume dedicated to his work.
56:17
Nice book. We all know who Roberto Giobbi is, and I guess this is maybe a Penguin release, right?
56:25
So Unexpected Agenda from Roberto. This is more of a theory book.
56:29
You know, that's interesting.
56:31
Considering his books, Card College, are very much the concrete of card magic
56:37
to some degree. You know what I mean?
56:39
They're a very good foundation. That's what I tell people about.
56:41
How do I learn card magic? Get card college.
56:43
It's all that. Yeah. And it's remarkable because I've sat up as a guy who's
56:46
just been like, everything you do fools me. And they just go,
56:49
it's all card college, man.
56:50
And I'm like, shh. Yeah. All the great stuff is in there.
56:53
Yeah. It's hard to believe like what else could be in that book?
56:57
Like the hidden, what is it called? A hidden agenda?
56:59
This is the unexpected agenda. And it's a follow-up to a volume that he released,
57:04
I think, which was called hidden agenda. And it's a book, I think mainly of
57:08
magic theory, tips, advice, just on how to be a better magician.
57:13
You know, maybe not the ambitious card routine, but you know,
57:17
how to make someone care about the ambitious card routine. Yeah.
57:21
So yeah, I get to live the dream. I'm getting, like, that's the day.
57:24
Yesterday it was, you know, Torah Torah magic. And the day before I'm curating
57:29
the brass wares in the cabinet.
57:31
And, you know, the day before that I'm learning some new packet tricks.
57:34
Yeah. A good one that I'm really enthusiastic about. This thing.
57:39
David Haydon's Babel book test. This is one volume of many that he's published.
57:44
It incorporates the mother of all book tests, the flashback book test,
57:48
and a couple of unique things that he's integrated into this.
57:51
It's been a while since I've had a book test, but this one is going to go home
57:56
with me and looking forward to, if nothing else, performing it at my house,
58:00
you know, having the book around and it's a very organic piece.
58:04
Well, yeah, we actually have these on sale for like 40 bucks right now.
58:07
It's ridiculously cheap as far as high-end.
58:10
For a book test. That's crazy. Yeah, especially for something that's related
58:14
to the mother of all book tests, which is normally hundreds of dollars to get
58:17
something without publication. Yeah.
58:19
Yeah. Like normally you're looking, like you got to sort of have 300 bucks in your pocket.
58:23
Yeah. You even enter the word mother of all book tests.
58:26
So what Haydon did with these books is he published several of them in different
58:30
sizes. So you can use the same techniques for books that appear to be different, right?
58:34
So it's the same methodology. So you can have eight books on the shelf.
58:37
You say, go grab one of those.
58:39
And they all work the same way, but they all look different. Pretty cool.
58:44
Look, I'm done plugging products. I actually have a customer in my store now.
58:48
So it's time to wrap up our podcast so I can actually make some money today.
58:52
Well, guys, thank you for listening to our podcast. And thank you for helping
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us pay respects to the amazing Kreskin.
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Like, I wish I knew more about him earlier. and it just goes to show you don't
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know what you got till it's gone but of course,
59:04
you got to know where you came from to know where you're going history is important
59:07
if there's anyone else you would like me to sort of scope out let me know
59:10
i've written three or four in advance so as far as history lessons go if you
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enjoy them do let us know thanks much for listening i'm letting you know i enjoy
59:18
them nick thank you thank you doug you can scope out my links below or scope
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on instagram at nick kmagic you can see doug at con man go to dougcon.com that's a good dot com.
59:30
Thanks for listening. We'll see you guys next week. Lots of love. Au revoir.
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Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
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But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.