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Credlin | 25 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Kido Kreendler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening to you, good morning to me here
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Speaker 2: live from London again for the final day of the
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Speaker 2: ARC conference. The Alliance were Responsible Citizenship event here in Kensington.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday London hit thirty six degrees the hottest June day
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Speaker 2: on record. And yes it was warm, but not Australian
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Speaker 2: warm and certainly not the catastrophe that much of the
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Speaker 2: media here tried to sell it as.
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Speaker 3: But I'll get into.
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Speaker 2: That and the whole issue of climate change with a
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Speaker 2: brilliant beyond Lombog a little later. Lots have been used,
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Speaker 2: though domestically in Australia tonight. Here's what's coming up on Predlin.
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke promised us this woman would not be allowed
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Speaker 2: to return. Now she is another ISIS linked woman on
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Speaker 2: her way back to Australia, where told security measures will
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Speaker 2: be put in place, but who trusts labor. Huge upheaval
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Speaker 2: amongst climate change scientists, with some of the doomsday scenario
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Speaker 2: is now being walked back. It's no longer armageddon, they say.
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Speaker 2: Climate expert Jon Lomberg joins me live, plus those chilling
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Speaker 2: warnings from AZO boss Mike mergess that a post Iran
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Speaker 2: could be even more deadly than before a post war Iran,
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Speaker 2: and on that, I have an important interview for you
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Speaker 2: with an outspoken Muslim man, a political strategist from the UAE,
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Speaker 2: who warns at Australia a sleep walking into a nightmare
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Speaker 2: if we don't get serious about the threat of radical Islam.
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Speaker 2: Let's go now though to camera for tonight's political headlines
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Speaker 2: with our reporter Rubon Spargo.
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Speaker 4: Fewer than one hundred people are on asio's highest priority
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Speaker 4: terrorist watch list. Speaking to Sky News, Australia's spyboss delivered
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Speaker 4: a rare insight into the scale of asio's counter terrorism
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Speaker 4: monitoring operation. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson claims eighteen thousand
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Speaker 4: people are on ASIO watch lists.
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Speaker 5: The caseload can be anywhere between one and one hundred plus.
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Speaker 5: At the moments below one hundred, then the number of
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Speaker 5: investigations will be a larger number. The total number of
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Speaker 5: people that we've looked at or currently looking at would
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Speaker 5: be in the order of ten thousand plus, but I'm
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Speaker 5: not going to go into those specific detail. Total of
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Speaker 5: the historical that's the total hysterical priority.
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Speaker 4: Like Burgess delivered his first annual threat assessment since the
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Speaker 4: Bondai terror attack. Overnight, he warns Azio is facing an
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Speaker 4: unprecedented level of threats. Tel Independent Sally Stegel and Allegraspender
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Speaker 4: are launching a new political party, Community Strong Australia, is
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Speaker 4: pitching itself as a centrist alternative as support for one
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Speaker 4: Nation grows and the Coalition struggles to win back voters.
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Speaker 2: People are frustrated and tired of the status quo. The
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Speaker 2: major parties have contributed to the situation.
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Speaker 3: We are in.
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Speaker 6: I'm not the least bit concerned about a party I
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Speaker 6: can't remember the name of.
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Speaker 4: The pair say they want to back community candidates in
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Speaker 4: both the House of Representatives and the Senate.
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Speaker 2: All right, planning to pull apart from question time today,
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Speaker 2: we'll get to those azy O warnings and the returner
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Speaker 2: that last remaining or at least the last one we
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Speaker 2: know of isis woman in a moment Jenny Mean. Now
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Speaker 2: are my colleague and co host this week, Steve Price. Steve,
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Speaker 2: welcome to to you on the program again. Those deeply
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Speaker 2: divisive tax reforms ran through the Senate today after the
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Speaker 2: government cut that deal with the Greens. Here was a
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Speaker 2: very triumphant Prime Minister a little earlier.
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Speaker 7: Our legislation has just passed the Senate.
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Speaker 8: And these is legislation that will make Australia stronger, will
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Speaker 8: make austraya fairer. I will indeed make Austraia stronger because
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Speaker 8: it is fairer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cocky in the chamber. But the real estate collapse,
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Speaker 2: that collapse in confidence, it'll be huge political or pain
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Speaker 2: for labor.
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Speaker 3: But Steve, what about that? Embarrassing back down?
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Speaker 2: Yet another one, this time on the so called widow's tax.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny, isn't watching Claire O'Neil and Jim Chalmers
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Speaker 6: trying to explain that this. Look, it's very complicated tax
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Speaker 6: changes and when you make major change you're always going
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Speaker 6: to have these little hiccups. Well, it's not a little
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Speaker 6: hiccup when you work out that an investment property owned
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Speaker 6: by a couple that's negatively geared and you either have
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Speaker 6: a divorce or one of the couple dies, suddenly it's
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Speaker 6: not grandfathered. It no longer does attract negative gearing. I mean,
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Speaker 6: how's that not just a glaring red light flashing when
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Speaker 6: a lawyer reads through the legislation. I mean you know
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Speaker 6: this better than anybody. I mean, drafting legislation. Sure it's difficult,
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Speaker 6: but you have to get it right, don't you.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is a problem.
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Speaker 2: This is where they came to this with basically a
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Speaker 2: leftist wish list.
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Speaker 3: They did it in hurry.
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Speaker 2: They thought the Liberal Party was in a vulnerable position.
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Speaker 2: They wanted to exploit that. This is why none of
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Speaker 2: it was worked up properly and taken to an election,
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Speaker 2: and it was thrown in together by the Treasurer on
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Speaker 2: that speech a budget night. I genuinely think Steve, they
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Speaker 2: thought this would be a political winner at this budget
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Speaker 2: and in fact it's an albatross around their neck.
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Speaker 6: Well, it was going to hang around for a long
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Speaker 6: time as well. I mean, how many real estate agents
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Speaker 6: and auctioneers and people who work for ARIA and all
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Speaker 6: of the big organizations that are involved in real estate
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Speaker 6: have come out in the last two weeks saying well,
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Speaker 6: hang on a minute. Clearance rates are now below fifty percent.
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Speaker 6: The market is tanking. The government tries to then say, oh, well,
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Speaker 6: that's more about interest rates going up. We've not seen
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Speaker 6: a collapse like this in the real estate market probably
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Speaker 6: since COVID and before that, when Keating tried to do
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Speaker 6: this before, so I don't know how Anthony Albanezi stands
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Speaker 6: up there in question time, prodding and pointing at the
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Speaker 6: opposition saying this, this is great for Australia. It's not
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Speaker 6: great for Australia if your own house, because your house
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Speaker 6: is going to be worth less. And it's not great
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Speaker 6: for Australia if you want to get into housing, because
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Speaker 6: people who normally invest in housing have decided they're not
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Speaker 6: going to do it anymore, even when they're told this
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Speaker 6: self managed super fun can't do it.
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Speaker 2: I think it's going to get worse. I think it's
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Speaker 2: going to be a big drag on Labour's vote and
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Speaker 2: I think this will be one of the reasons why
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister will not want to face the people
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Speaker 2: at the next election, because he will not want to
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Speaker 2: bear the consequences.
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Speaker 3: For this policy. Let's go to that news today.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we have that terror update from the AZO boss.
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Speaker 2: On the same day though that he did that sounding
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Speaker 2: the alarm, we got the news that the government's back
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Speaker 2: down and will now issue a return permit to the
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Speaker 2: last ISIS linked woman, Hoden Abbey. She was the only
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Speaker 2: woman Australian woman affiliated with Islamic state to be barred
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Speaker 2: from returning under legislation that was meant to keep individuals
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Speaker 2: like this out of the country. Well, now the door's
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Speaker 2: open for her to return. The opposition or they didn't
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Speaker 2: hold back today the.
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Speaker 7: Term isis bride covers all manner of sins. These people
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Speaker 7: abandoned Australia, they traveled to terrorist hotspots, they supported an
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Speaker 7: evil death cult, and they steeped their children in a
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Speaker 7: monstrous ideology. This government has deliberately turned a blind eye
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Speaker 7: to Islamist extremism in this country. It is showing at
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Speaker 7: a disdain to the safety of hard working Australians.
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Speaker 2: And I want to go back Steve to those comments
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Speaker 2: just yesterday from Laura Pond. She's a former counter terrorism
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Speaker 2: detective here in Britain. She came out of New Scotland
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Speaker 2: yard and this is Britain's position on Isis women coming
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Speaker 2: back to the UK.
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Speaker 9: At the end of the day, they are risks to
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Speaker 9: national security. I think in a you know well that
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Speaker 9: we often talk about, you would be able to you
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Speaker 9: bring them back, you'd secure them, you'd risk assess it
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Speaker 9: and you'd put them through the criminal justice process.
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Speaker 10: But that's not always. We're not always in an ideal world,
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Speaker 10: are we.
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Speaker 2: All right, She's seen everything, she's read everything, she's had
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Speaker 2: all the briefings, and she says, in Britain's case, do
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Speaker 2: not let them come back. They don't let them come back.
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Speaker 2: We tried to keep this woman away. That's all changed.
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Speaker 2: But we've got no explanations Dee from the government as
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Speaker 2: to what has made it suddenly safe for her to return.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't know what the original assessment of her
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Speaker 6: was as to why she was too dangerous to come back,
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Speaker 6: but it was as says, that she shouldn't come back. Okay,
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Speaker 6: So they're now saying that such a period of time
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Speaker 6: has passed that the law now means that she can
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Speaker 6: legally come back to Australia. Will change the law, make
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Speaker 6: the law stronger, do what the UK has done, and
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Speaker 6: keep these people all out. I mean, you're running the country,
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Speaker 6: you're in charge of security. Tony Burt goes on his
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Speaker 6: media outlet of choice today, the ABC, and he then
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Speaker 6: starts arguing, why you know, I couldn't stop her coming back.
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Speaker 6: She's got legal rights, and then he says when she
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Speaker 6: gets back here, every time she goes on email, or
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Speaker 6: she goes to a school, or she goes to a
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Speaker 6: theater or anywhere, she's going to have to be monitored
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Speaker 6: twenty four hours a day. How we're going to afford
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Speaker 6: to do that? How can you monitor someone twenty four
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Speaker 6: hours a day? And if you have to monitor someone
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Speaker 6: twenty four hours a day, why the hell are they
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Speaker 6: coming back here?
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Speaker 2: Well, we already know from evidence in the Bondno Real
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Speaker 2: Commission that ASIO and all of our intelligence agencies are
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Speaker 2: struggling with resourcing issues, things that they were sort of
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Speaker 2: monitoring and looking into task forces that they had and
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Speaker 2: been shut down and money redeployed elsewhere. So it's already understrained.
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Speaker 2: And Burgess today, Mike Burgess, it's the boss of ASIO.
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Speaker 2: He warned that they are grappling with an unprecedented volume
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Speaker 2: of threats.
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Speaker 3: Have a listen.
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Speaker 5: Probable does not tell the full story. We do know
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Speaker 5: the environment is degrading and acts of politically motivated violence
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Speaker 5: are becoming more likely than probable suggests. We cannot stop
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Speaker 5: every terrorist, just as we cannot catch every spy.
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Speaker 3: So why is the government so weak? Steve?
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Speaker 6: Why I think the government always wanted all of these
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Speaker 6: women back out of those camps. I think it's in
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Speaker 6: their DNA. We saw that vision that Skyra has run
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Speaker 6: over and over. If Tony Burke turning up out at
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Speaker 6: the airport welcoming people back, they've got seats that are
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Speaker 6: heavily populated by Muslim community in Australia and they rely
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Speaker 6: on those votes. I mean there can be no other reason.
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Speaker 6: I mean if you've got the head of ASIO saying
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Speaker 6: I'm stretched for resources, and then you've got Tony Burke
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Speaker 6: saying this woman's got to be monitor four hours a day,
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Speaker 6: that just makes no sense. I mean you could have
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Speaker 6: kept them all out of Australia. I mean everyone says, oh,
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Speaker 6: well there'll be a high court challenge. Well, let there
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Speaker 6: be a high court challenge, but change the legislation so
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Speaker 6: bet exit so they can't come.
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Speaker 3: YEP.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting I spoke to just the other day. I
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Speaker 2: show people the interview obviously last night with the Independent Commissioner,
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Speaker 2: the former Independent Commissioner for Violent Extremism from Combating Extremism,
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Speaker 2: and he said it comes down to the politics, Islamic
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Speaker 2: politics now in Britain. I suspect very much the same
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Speaker 2: case in Australia as to why the political class is
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Speaker 2: so weak, but the community.
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Speaker 3: Are across all of this. And I just don't trust Labor.
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Speaker 2: I don't forgive the Prime Minister when he threw out
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Speaker 2: of the National Security cabinety throughout the AZO boss and
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Speaker 2: the AFP police chief and instead he puts Chris Bowen
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Speaker 2: in there because he thinks there's a climate emergency. So
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Speaker 2: he backflipped eventually, but the damage is being done under Labor.
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Speaker 2: They just don't take national security seriously enough.
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Speaker 6: Well, Bondo has been a massive wake up call, but
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Speaker 6: they are trying to dance around it now. I mean
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Speaker 6: you remember how hard it was to drag Anthony Albanzi
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Speaker 6: kicking and screaming to have a royal commission. I mean
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Speaker 6: that took weeks and weeks and weeks. The words Islamic
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Speaker 6: extremism never pass the lips of people like Albanisi or Burke.
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Speaker 6: They just won't talk about it because they have in
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Speaker 6: their DNA, deep in their DNA, that this group of
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Speaker 6: people in Australia are their people. They will vote for them,
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Speaker 6: and that's what they do.
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Speaker 2: I know, You've got a whole lot more to come
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Speaker 2: back to, and I'm going to talk about the tills
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Speaker 2: and maybe an internal blue inside the coalition and between
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Speaker 2: two former soldiers. I'll leave that with you, Steve, Thanks
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Speaker 2: very much. We'll come back to you, of course a
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Speaker 2: bit later in the program. I'm here at ARC obviously,
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Speaker 2: but I want to show you some of the wonderful
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Speaker 2: things that have been going on here. It's stifling in London, sure,
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Speaker 2: but I tell you what the conversations they are waking
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Speaker 2: up good people in countries like ours who want to
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Speaker 2: arrest the march of the left through our institutions and
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Speaker 2: rebuild our democracies to protect freedom. At Nigel Farage, the
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Speaker 2: wonderful doctor Hillary cass who wrote that report that unmasked
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Speaker 2: the harm of gender medicine on young people, and another
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Speaker 2: woman you might know her.
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Speaker 3: Here's some highlights.
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Speaker 1: I think we're in real danger. I think we're in
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Speaker 1: real danger of absolutely losing a sense of who we are.
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Speaker 1: And really, you know, when I came back into politics
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Speaker 1: two years ago, have you been out for a few years?
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Speaker 1: It was really the values around family, community, country, and
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Speaker 1: that's why I came back.
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Speaker 10: But the one thing that nobody could tell me was
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Speaker 10: what the long term trajectory was, and we tried to
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Speaker 10: find out by arranging to do a linkage study which
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Speaker 10: links the data of the young people who'd gone through
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Speaker 10: the service into adulthood to find out how they were doing.
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Speaker 10: We had all the approvals for that, the Secretary stated,
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Speaker 10: even lad a statutory instrument to allow us to do it,
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Speaker 10: but the adult gender clinics refused to cooperate.
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Speaker 11: If brokenness at every level is the story of the
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Speaker 11: last twenty years, were now at the point where there
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Speaker 11: is responsibility at every level. If you're at home, you
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Speaker 11: have a part to play. You have a part to
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Speaker 11: raise the next generation to love their culture and to
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Speaker 11: build something better.
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Speaker 12: It isn't easier to submit to an ideology you know
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Speaker 12: isn't true, to give up your rights and watch society
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Speaker 12: crumble under the weight of nonsense.
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Speaker 2: We fight against the media Sky News Australia as gb
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Speaker 2: News does here.
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Speaker 3: So there is good media and not so good media.
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Speaker 3: All the that's on our sky News website. Not allow
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Speaker 3: the break. You must watch this interview.
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Speaker 2: I spoke with a leading wisdom thinker from the United
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Speaker 2: Arab Emirates, arm Jed Tahar. We cover a whole lot
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Speaker 2: of ground, but he does admits his words. He says
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Speaker 2: he's got a big warning for Australia on radical Islam.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to a warm and getting warm in London
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Speaker 2: for the last day the twenty twenty six Alliance for
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Speaker 2: Responsible Citizenship Conference, the ARK Conference here in Kensington. You
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Speaker 2: can live stream the sessions, as I said on our
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Speaker 2: website skynews dot com dot Au. But now, in light
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Speaker 2: of the AZO Boss Mike Burgess's comments overnight that our
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Speaker 2: security environment's degrading, my next interview could not be more timely.
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Speaker 2: Arm Jed Tahara is a political strategist and analysts from
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Speaker 2: the uae I spoke to him last year on the
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Speaker 2: sidelines of ARK and I knew, I absolutely knew I
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Speaker 2: had to get him back on the show because sadly,
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Speaker 2: just one year later, it feels like the threat of
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Speaker 2: radical Islam is only getting worse in the West and
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Speaker 2: certainly worse in Australia. Jed, thank you for your time.
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Speaker 2: There are so many issues I think we've got to discuss,
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Speaker 2: but I want to start with something that has really
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Speaker 2: rocked Australia, and that was the Bondai massacre in December
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Speaker 2: last year.
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Speaker 3: We are still sort of unpacking it.
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Speaker 2: We've got a Royal Commission at the moment, trying to
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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of it and do our best
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Speaker 2: to prevent it happening again. But the reaction of politicians
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Speaker 2: has been very mixed. Some are comfortable calling out radical Islam.
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Speaker 2: Others fear offense and just don't use that language.
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Speaker 3: You know this better than anyone.
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Speaker 2: Give me your reaction to what you saw happen in Sydney,
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Speaker 2: but also advice you'd have for politicians about radical Islam.
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Speaker 13: I think he was an attack against not just the
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Speaker 13: Jewish people and Jewish community. It was an attack against
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Speaker 13: the Western civilization. It was an attack against all sort
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Speaker 13: of civilization. And the reason for that is say radical Islamists,
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Speaker 13: which is led mainly by the Muslim Brotherhood all around
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Speaker 13: the world, or have been allowed to act in such
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Speaker 13: a way, in such a manner where every time you
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Speaker 13: try to criticize them, they want to make it expensive
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Speaker 13: for you and I and everyone, including even members of
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Speaker 13: the parliament, members of the Congress. They want to make
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Speaker 13: it very expensive for them to criticize them. And the
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Speaker 13: moment they criticize those Islamist, those Muslim brotherhood, they will
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Speaker 13: call them Islamophobia. But that terminology itself, it was created
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Speaker 13: by the Muslim Brotherhood's radical Islamist is to censor your
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Speaker 13: right to criticize those, and is to stop you from
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Speaker 13: doing so. Muslim Brotherhood just still exist in the books
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Speaker 13: in some universities and some schools and even some mosques
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Speaker 13: inside Australia. The books of say Up, the books of
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Speaker 13: Benemia Baz. All those Islamist terrorists, or at least the
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Speaker 13: ones who sponsored support or glorified terrorism, their books are
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Speaker 13: there right now at this stage, at this point, in
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Speaker 13: some of the mosques in Australia. And the fact that
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Speaker 13: we allow this books, the books of radicalization, the manifest
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Speaker 13: of the Muslim Brotherhood which Hamas is the armed forces
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Speaker 13: of it in Gaza, which what we see in al
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Speaker 13: Qaeda and as is exactly they used exactly the same books.
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Speaker 13: So the same manifest of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why do
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Speaker 13: they exist in a country of civilization, in a place
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Speaker 13: of Western civilization, in a place of where where people
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Speaker 13: meant to be sick in knowledge becoming a place of
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Speaker 13: coexistent peace, prosperity.
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Speaker 2: Why, Well, this is the question I mean, you're asking why.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of Australians are asking why so,
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Speaker 2: why are we falling for even the term islamophobia, if
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Speaker 2: you're saying it was created by the Muslim brotherhood to
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Speaker 2: silence genuine debate about Islam in Western civilization. Why are
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Speaker 2: we dancing to their tune because.
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Speaker 13: Their lobbying right now, there is your parliament. They're in
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Speaker 13: your streets in many countries in the Middle East. They
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Speaker 13: are terrorists. They come to your country and they become activist.
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Speaker 13: They should be in the prison or hospital, but you
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Speaker 13: put them in the street. You trust your children with them.
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Speaker 13: They lecture and your children what to say that many
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Speaker 13: people are leaving the prestigious universities in Australia are no
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Speaker 13: longer attending because some of the campuses, and they are
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Speaker 13: turning to be radicalized by many of those society Islamis society,
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Speaker 13: Muslim Brotherhood societies. They're controlling those students. They're radicalizing your students.
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Speaker 13: And you know what they're telling you. They're telling you
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Speaker 13: antisemitism is our opinion. It's really sad to see where
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Speaker 13: we have reached where it's fine to attack and a
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Speaker 13: restaurant for because it's a kosher restaurant. You see the points.
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Speaker 13: This is not nineteen thirty six, this is twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 13: when a kosher restaurant in Australia or anywhere else gets attacked.
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Speaker 13: These people are coming to the point where they're having
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Speaker 13: a problem with what you wish person can eat and cannot.
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Speaker 13: It's not about the state of Israel. It's not about
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Speaker 13: right or wrong. It's about them being antisemitic and antisemitism.
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Speaker 13: It's a cancer has existed through our time. The treating
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Speaker 13: it is not by making them to become an MP
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Speaker 13: and counselors. Treating it is by taking them to the court,
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Speaker 13: suing them and make sure they don't have defenders in
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Speaker 13: terms of the people who are defending the criminals all
20:58
Speaker 13: the way in the Midds. What they say in some
21:01
Speaker 13: mosques in Australia, they cannot say those words and terminologists
21:06
Speaker 13: although we're in Afghanistan any right.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the point I want to pick up, right.
21:10
Speaker 2: So we have hate preaches in our country that speak
21:14
Speaker 2: in mosques that our government is too weak to the poor,
21:19
Speaker 2: too weak to deal with into weak to prosecute them.
21:21
Speaker 2: And we have laws but they're not used enough. You
21:24
Speaker 2: live in a Muslim country, you come from a Muslim country.
21:27
Speaker 2: You have a much better handle on radical Islam than
21:30
Speaker 2: any country in the West.
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Speaker 3: Why is that? What are you doing to stamp it out?
21:35
Speaker 13: By saying anti Semitism as a crime, not an opinion,
21:39
Speaker 13: by calling the radical radical, and by calling the terrorists
21:42
Speaker 13: a terrorists. You cannot start defending the terrorists. It should
21:45
Speaker 13: be banned. Band the Muslim.
21:47
Speaker 2: Brotherhood and you don't have the crime of Islamophobia there
21:49
Speaker 2: you you know what it is.
21:51
Speaker 13: You cannot You know, this is a problem some people
21:54
Speaker 13: in Australia as they're trying to be more Muslim than I.
21:58
Speaker 13: You will not be more Arab than I. You will
22:00
Speaker 13: not be more Muslim than me. And I'm telling you
22:02
Speaker 13: bound the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Speaker 2: I've got to ask you then, when you observe what's
22:07
Speaker 2: happened in the West, not just in the last couple
22:09
Speaker 2: of years, but in the last couple of decades, do
22:13
Speaker 2: you hold out hope that the West will be able
22:16
Speaker 2: to deal with the group of radical Islam.
22:20
Speaker 13: Well, I think no. Let me let me be very
22:24
Speaker 13: precise about this. This Islamist and the Muslim Brotherhood. What
22:30
Speaker 13: do they have right now? They have a system of banking,
22:34
Speaker 13: including charities. They call them charities, but those are not charities.
22:38
Speaker 13: Those are the sort of companies that they run to
22:41
Speaker 13: refund and money laundry. The Islamist all the way in
22:45
Speaker 13: the Middle East, because if he has at an open
22:49
Speaker 13: accounting in Australia, no one is going to ask about it,
22:52
Speaker 13: and it's going to have an Australian citizen to run
22:56
Speaker 13: that money in the name of fund and charity asks.
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Speaker 13: There is organizations I would not mention their names, and
23:03
Speaker 13: that's because we are in this time an age where
23:07
Speaker 13: you cannot mention in a Muslim brotherhood charity because guess
23:11
Speaker 13: what in Australia right now, at this moment, they will
23:13
Speaker 13: sue you, sue the channel, so everybody, because they want
23:16
Speaker 13: to censor your right to speak or name them. They
23:19
Speaker 13: want to make it expensive for anybody to name them.
23:22
Speaker 13: They have banking in terms of charity, they have schools
23:25
Speaker 13: right now, they are in your universities, and they will
23:28
Speaker 13: have more and more people in the government and the
23:31
Speaker 13: members of the Parliament to at least defend them or
23:34
Speaker 13: sympathize with them. Now, if we're having all this, that
23:37
Speaker 13: means they're control in your streets. Later on you will
23:41
Speaker 13: see some of them being a judge or so on.
23:43
Speaker 13: So will make sure they have always a lawyer and
23:46
Speaker 13: a judge defend them. And they are already part of
23:49
Speaker 13: some part of the regulations, regulatory when it comes to
23:54
Speaker 13: the government. They're in your streets, they're in your education system,
23:58
Speaker 13: and they are part of the regulators that are everywhere,
24:03
Speaker 13: and they're growing and the funds unfortunately comes right from outside.
24:07
Speaker 13: In fact, I can give you an example, it's a
24:09
Speaker 13: very broad example of anyone. In fact, the Islamic regim
24:14
Speaker 13: and Iran was targeting my country is over three thousands,
24:17
Speaker 13: three thousand rockets and drones targeting everyone civilian. It wasn't
24:25
Speaker 13: targeting any American base. It was targeting civilians, children incubate
24:30
Speaker 13: in Bahrain and also in my country. Question is did
24:35
Speaker 13: you see any protests in Australia about this against the
24:38
Speaker 13: Iranian aggression in soldarity and in support of the Muslim
24:41
Speaker 13: people who are in the United Arab Emirates or in Bahrain.
24:46
Speaker 2: Or we were matching for the Muslims in Gaza, but
24:50
Speaker 2: not for the Muslims I wanted to aspire about.
24:53
Speaker 13: But because this answers your question, the moment you ask
24:55
Speaker 13: why is that because the Muslim brotherhood do not like
24:58
Speaker 13: uee or barraying, because we countered the Muslim Brotherhood and
25:02
Speaker 13: we banned them. So it's not about Islam. This is
25:06
Speaker 13: not about Islam, this is not about human rights. This
25:08
Speaker 13: is not about genocide because Iran committed the genocide. Forty
25:12
Speaker 13: thousand people of the Ranian did not come back since January.
25:16
Speaker 13: Iran killed those children and women and executed them right
25:19
Speaker 13: in the street. Not even one protest in support of
25:23
Speaker 13: those from the many communities in Australia.
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Speaker 2: So it is the long game to take over these
25:29
Speaker 2: western countries. Is that the long game for the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Speaker 13: Yes, there will a point right now, I believe we're
25:37
Speaker 13: going to be in the time of action. The next
25:40
Speaker 13: step is action, which means they're already recruited, especially after
25:44
Speaker 13: the seventh of October. He gave them enough place to
25:47
Speaker 13: recruit people and use that emotion grab on them, and
25:51
Speaker 13: then they went through their education system also, so now
25:55
Speaker 13: they have enough font in terms of the charities that
25:58
Speaker 13: they use the umbrella of the charities, and they have
26:02
Speaker 13: enough imams and they have enough recruitments. The next is action.
26:06
Speaker 13: They will carry a terrorist attacks. More terrorist attacks are
26:09
Speaker 13: coming to the Australia, more coming to the United Kingdom.
26:12
Speaker 13: There will be terrorist attack, and you will go back
26:16
Speaker 13: into this interview that we're having to remind people we
26:20
Speaker 13: did warn about this. It's not because we're very smart
26:23
Speaker 13: and clever about this and we have it's because the
26:26
Speaker 13: Middle East understand that these terrorists because we suffered.
26:30
Speaker 3: You understand them better than anybody else.
26:32
Speaker 13: Because we suffered from them, and we know how to
26:35
Speaker 13: counter them and we stop them.
26:37
Speaker 2: So let's wrap. What's your message to Australia.
26:43
Speaker 13: Band the Muslim Brotherhood. Do not tolerate people who do
26:47
Speaker 13: not tolerate you, and treat your country like your home,
26:52
Speaker 13: and treat the citizens like your children, care about them.
26:56
Speaker 13: Future is really dark if you're going to allow these
26:59
Speaker 13: guys to be the elites, the Muslim Brotherhood to be
27:01
Speaker 13: the elites of your society. You have a great history.
27:05
Speaker 13: Protect your civilization. If I'm saying protect your civilization, this
27:10
Speaker 13: is a huge warning, a huge warning. And my heart,
27:16
Speaker 13: my hand is on my heart when I speak about Australia.
27:18
Speaker 13: I have visited Australia and I have seen the recent
27:21
Speaker 13: attack when it happens in against the Jewish community. This
27:26
Speaker 13: is not what Australia is about. It's so diverse, so
27:30
Speaker 13: it's so amazing. But right now, just ask yourself some
27:35
Speaker 13: part of Sydney, you know you and I know that
27:39
Speaker 13: a Jewish Orthodox cannot show his identity.
27:42
Speaker 3: Yes, and thank you.
27:44
Speaker 2: Thank you for your honesty, thank you for your advice
27:47
Speaker 2: and your warnings.
27:49
Speaker 3: Let's hope we hate them.
27:50
Speaker 13: Thank you together with standing together with Rafe.
27:56
Speaker 2: That is such an important conversation at any time, but
27:59
Speaker 2: particular lighter for obviously the fraternity isis women to Australia,
28:03
Speaker 2: the conversations we're having about the warnings from the Azo boss.
28:08
Speaker 2: I really want you to get that off our website,
28:10
Speaker 2: our Sky News website and share it as widely as
28:13
Speaker 2: you can.
28:14
Speaker 3: He is an amazing man.
28:15
Speaker 2: He is a brave man, he is a Muslim man
28:18
Speaker 2: and he's telling Australia to.
28:20
Speaker 3: Wake up, all right.
28:22
Speaker 2: Just before the break that interview last night with a
28:24
Speaker 2: wonderful author and feminist lesbian campaign and Julie Bindle. A
28:28
Speaker 2: whole lot in that interview, I couldn't show you anything
28:30
Speaker 2: but everything last night, but there was one little bit
28:33
Speaker 2: that I wanted to put to you, you know, the
28:36
Speaker 2: whole word sale of lgbtqy blah blah blah blah blah. Well,
28:40
Speaker 2: I put it to her and she says, we're actually
28:42
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable older lesbians and gays like me. She says,
28:46
Speaker 2: we're uncomfortable being tied to the movement. Now as it stands,
28:50
Speaker 2: have a listen.
28:52
Speaker 14: Australia with your formidable women's movement, formidable lesbian rights movement
28:58
Speaker 14: has gone absolutely and we used to say Canada that
29:03
Speaker 14: we call Tranada definitely not affectionately, was the most extreme.
29:07
Speaker 3: Australia is now won that prize.
29:10
Speaker 14: It will turn and the work that you're doing, the
29:12
Speaker 14: work that sell Grover and the lesbian rights groups are doing,
29:16
Speaker 14: is formidable, and we look at you with in awe
29:19
Speaker 14: and we know that you will win.
29:21
Speaker 2: Last question, are we going to see a decoupling? Because
29:24
Speaker 2: the issues that you're talking about women's rights etc. Don't
29:29
Speaker 2: sit well with trans and Q and the plus. And
29:34
Speaker 2: you know, I wonder why on earth do we have
29:36
Speaker 2: this word salad when lesbian women and gay men don't
29:41
Speaker 2: have a line in common either.
29:43
Speaker 3: And you've now got.
29:44
Speaker 2: The trends who are fighting against lesbian women at every corner.
29:48
Speaker 3: Why you all lumped in together?
29:51
Speaker 14: Well, now the LGBTQQI two spirit plus is looking more
29:55
Speaker 14: like an unbreakable Wi Fi code than anything that relates
29:58
Speaker 14: to a movement.
29:59
Speaker 3: I'm TV and try to say it everything.
30:01
Speaker 14: Right, and there is no community. The queue one of
30:06
Speaker 14: the cues stunds for questioning the other cue. Queer can
30:10
Speaker 14: just mean a gay, a straight male kinkster or female kinkster, asexual,
30:15
Speaker 14: a romantic intersex what's the plus? We do not want
30:19
Speaker 14: to be in this relationship. We want a divorce and
30:22
Speaker 14: gay men feel the same. Those gay men that reject
30:25
Speaker 14: transgender ideology want a divorce, and we don't care whether
30:28
Speaker 14: it's amicable or a lot, but we don't want them.
30:30
Speaker 14: They've piggybacked onto our movement and we want rid of them.
30:34
Speaker 3: So there's a political reclin coming there as well. Oh
30:36
Speaker 3: there is.
30:37
Speaker 14: We're taking the wrecking bault of that. I'm telling you
30:40
Speaker 14: that acronym will become much shorter the next time we talk.
30:43
Speaker 3: About I could only hope of that. It's so good
30:45
Speaker 3: to see you two.
30:49
Speaker 2: I don't know that you'd be very happy if it
30:50
Speaker 2: was shorter. It's a mouthful.
30:52
Speaker 3: I try not to say it. We're broke out anyway.
30:54
Speaker 3: After the break, we're going to get into the.
30:56
Speaker 2: So called climate consensus because it's unraveling and we are
31:00
Speaker 2: punishing ourselves in Australia though we haven't got the memo.
31:03
Speaker 2: A timely warning from the wonderful Beyond Lomborg.
31:13
Speaker 3: Welcome back, Steve.
31:14
Speaker 2: We'll get into some domestic news in a moment, but
31:17
Speaker 2: I want to bring you back to the topic of
31:19
Speaker 2: climate science because the reports are that the scientists, the
31:24
Speaker 2: IPCC Jensen women in particular, no longer believe in a
31:28
Speaker 2: catastrophic rise in temperatures is on the cards. This is
31:32
Speaker 2: all about projections at the end of this century. They're
31:35
Speaker 2: changing them, they're winding them back, and this is allowing
31:39
Speaker 2: a lot of countries to get back in the game
31:42
Speaker 2: of industry and energy, to not de industrialize as so
31:46
Speaker 2: many have.
31:48
Speaker 3: But that's not Australia.
31:49
Speaker 2: We are still going down that path, of course, led
31:53
Speaker 2: by Chris Bowen. There's nobody better though to talk us
31:56
Speaker 2: through the latest than Beyond Lomborg political scientists and all
32:00
Speaker 2: the best known for arguing that climate change and global
32:04
Speaker 2: challenges should be prioritized to cost benefit analysis, not scam
32:09
Speaker 2: angering and non alarmism. And please say he joins me
32:12
Speaker 2: in our live remark good.
32:13
Speaker 3: To see you again. Likewise, let's get.
32:16
Speaker 2: Into this IPCC wineback of arm again. And because I've
32:20
Speaker 2: read all the reports, it's had a little bit of
32:22
Speaker 2: attension in Australia, not enough given the gravity, and I
32:27
Speaker 2: guess the significance of what they've done.
32:30
Speaker 15: Well, let's not have enough attention almost everywhere. Remember all
32:34
Speaker 15: the scariest scenarios that you've heard almost exclusively based on
32:38
Speaker 15: this very very high emission scenario. It was always impossible.
32:42
Speaker 15: So remember the scientists basically in order to get a
32:46
Speaker 15: wide spread of what they were looking at. That's fine
32:49
Speaker 15: if you're a scientist, but telling people something that is
32:52
Speaker 15: essentially untrue and impossible. So it assumed that we were
32:56
Speaker 15: going to be using five times more coal than we
32:59
Speaker 15: are today by the end of the century. Nobody expects
33:02
Speaker 15: that that's just not it's possibly not even geologically possible.
33:07
Speaker 15: But we kept on using it, and a lot of
33:10
Speaker 15: people were actually saying, oh, this is business as usual,
33:13
Speaker 15: this is what happens if you don't do our climate policies,
33:16
Speaker 15: which of course is just almost blackmail. It's a way
33:18
Speaker 15: of saying things are going to get really scary, and
33:20
Speaker 15: I'm going to scare you with the scenario that's implausible
33:23
Speaker 15: in order to get you to pay to do the
33:27
Speaker 15: more realistic scenario. No, we're going to do the more
33:29
Speaker 15: realistic scenario. And then the question is should we modify that?
33:32
Speaker 15: And that's a reasonable political question, but a very different
33:35
Speaker 15: one from scaring the pants helping people.
33:37
Speaker 3: So what's driven the wineback? Is it?
33:39
Speaker 2: You know, people are put to me, it's now they've
33:41
Speaker 2: suddenly woken up and they need data centers, and data
33:44
Speaker 2: centers are energy hungry, and so they've got to find
33:47
Speaker 2: a way to accommodate that with the narrative. So we'll
33:49
Speaker 2: wind back this narrative to get into AI what's driving it?
33:52
Speaker 15: So these are scientists, I think it's fundamentally it's becomes
33:56
Speaker 15: so unbearable to it. Yeah, yes, I mean, look again,
34:02
Speaker 15: a lot of the scientists would just say, well, we
34:04
Speaker 15: just put out a wide range of scenarios. It's the
34:07
Speaker 15: fact that people have sold as a business as usual scenario.
34:10
Speaker 1: That's the real lie.
34:11
Speaker 15: That was untrue. But you know they've now become so
34:15
Speaker 15: come on.
34:16
Speaker 2: They didn't go out there when their narrative got reshaped
34:20
Speaker 2: by the media, by the politicians, by the activists. I
34:23
Speaker 2: didn't see the scientists go out there and say hey, hey,
34:25
Speaker 2: slow down, you've taken the worst case scenario.
34:28
Speaker 3: Let's bring it back. They were basically sila or case scenario.
34:31
Speaker 15: You're right, and in that sense they're implicitly also guilty.
34:35
Speaker 15: But I think the fundamental point is it became so
34:38
Speaker 15: obvious this was wrong that now they had to take
34:40
Speaker 15: it back. And of course now they're saying, oh, it's
34:42
Speaker 15: because we did all this green stuff, which is just implausible. Again, No,
34:47
Speaker 15: it's because it was always implausible, and we really need
34:50
Speaker 15: to say the more realistic outcome is we're going to
34:52
Speaker 15: see almost three degrees warming. That's still a problem, but
34:55
Speaker 15: it's by no means the end of the world.
34:58
Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know Tony Blair make comments to say
35:01
Speaker 2: the era of zero is over, and they just went viral, right,
35:05
Speaker 2: a huge pickup.
35:06
Speaker 3: Of those comments. In Australia.
35:08
Speaker 2: I interviewed his former political staff at the other day
35:11
Speaker 2: of the day that to Kiirs Dama resigned and he said, no,
35:14
Speaker 2: I believe is wrong.
35:15
Speaker 3: Our boss is wrong.
35:16
Speaker 2: We need to go harder, we need to go faster
35:19
Speaker 2: in terms of dealing with climate change. We need more.
35:22
Speaker 2: It's zero and we need to bring it forward. What
35:24
Speaker 2: would you say to.
35:25
Speaker 15: The well, fundamentally, if you bought into this whole scare
35:28
Speaker 15: campaign and if you think this is the only and
35:30
Speaker 15: the most important issue for the world, but very clearly
35:33
Speaker 15: this forum is staff is right.
35:34
Speaker 3: You need to just go in all in.
35:36
Speaker 1: But it's not.
35:37
Speaker 15: First of all, we just know that it's not the
35:39
Speaker 15: end of the world. It's a problem. And spending an
35:42
Speaker 15: enormous amount of money and resources and basically focusing all
35:45
Speaker 15: your energy on trying to fix this one problem and
35:49
Speaker 15: forgetting all the others, the affordability crisis, the problem with
35:52
Speaker 15: learning or in schools, or with the pensions, and obviously
35:56
Speaker 15: military issues in the world, you're basically ignored all the
36:00
Speaker 15: other big problems.
36:01
Speaker 13: Of the world.
36:02
Speaker 15: So no, we got to go back. And I think
36:04
Speaker 15: what Tony Blair is really crucially telling us is in
36:09
Speaker 15: the real world, this is just not going to work out. Remember,
36:12
Speaker 15: the EU has promised to cut its carbon emissions by
36:15
Speaker 15: fifty five percent by twenty thirty. That's going to be
36:18
Speaker 15: very hard and it's going to be very costly, and
36:20
Speaker 15: a lot of people are very upset. They've also promised
36:22
Speaker 15: by twenty forty to reduce it by ninety percent. That's
36:26
Speaker 15: just going to be impossible, and it's going to be
36:28
Speaker 15: phenomenally it costly if they try. So sometimes between tenny
36:32
Speaker 15: thirty and twenty forty, this is going to break and
36:35
Speaker 15: we're going to stop. What Tony Blair is telling us
36:37
Speaker 15: is maybe it'd be better if we stopped before then
36:40
Speaker 15: and actually try to, you know, off ramp this sensibly,
36:45
Speaker 15: instead of having a catastrophic breakdown and people are just
36:47
Speaker 15: going to vote in Donald Trump's or someone else to
36:50
Speaker 15: just say we're not going to do this at all.
36:52
Speaker 15: I would prefer and I think that would be much
36:54
Speaker 15: better for society that we spent smartly. We think about, Yes,
36:58
Speaker 15: climate change is still a problem, let's fix it smartly
37:01
Speaker 15: with research and development, and then let's focus on all
37:03
Speaker 15: these other problems.
37:05
Speaker 2: Talk to you about your observations on Australia, because initially
37:10
Speaker 2: it was these enormous price increases in electricity that got
37:13
Speaker 2: people to say there's going to be a better way.
37:16
Speaker 2: But now we're seeing the role out and the government's
37:18
Speaker 2: not misting, but we're seeing the role out of renewables.
37:20
Speaker 2: Right across you know, Christine National parks have being disturbed,
37:24
Speaker 2: we've got really productive farmland being turned into wasteland. We're
37:29
Speaker 2: buying all of the products, the solar farms and the
37:32
Speaker 2: wind turbines out of China.
37:33
Speaker 3: They've all got a short lifespan. As you know, we're.
37:36
Speaker 2: Desecrating this beautiful natural environment in order to save the planet.
37:40
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. The backlash is significant. Do you
37:44
Speaker 2: see that there's going to be a wake up call
37:46
Speaker 2: that we will hear and arrest the damage we're doing
37:50
Speaker 2: to our basically to our economy, but now also to
37:53
Speaker 2: our country. I hope so.
37:55
Speaker 15: And I think, you know, I think we talked about
37:57
Speaker 15: this briefly before. I think the price increases, what's going
38:01
Speaker 15: to do it? When people are seeing the highest electricity
38:04
Speaker 15: costs here in the UK, they're eventually saying, no, we're
38:07
Speaker 15: not going to pay for this, We're not willing to
38:09
Speaker 15: do this. There's the deemedustrialization, the fact that your country
38:12
Speaker 15: is no longer producing anything because you're outsourcing everything China.
38:16
Speaker 3: And that's national security too. Is that change the security?
38:19
Speaker 2: Yeah?
38:19
Speaker 15: So fundamentally, I think people are going to be fed
38:21
Speaker 15: up with this, and it shows you just what Tony said.
38:25
Speaker 15: This is an unsustainable policy in the long run. Plus
38:29
Speaker 15: it's also really really bad for all countries because there
38:31
Speaker 15: we have many other problems that we also need to fix.
38:34
Speaker 15: We need to find a cheaper, more effective way to
38:36
Speaker 15: tackle climate change. We need to get off ramp of this.
38:39
Speaker 3: It's the end of the world.
38:40
Speaker 15: And we just need to do anything, and these people
38:43
Speaker 15: will sell it's and so I think there is as
38:45
Speaker 15: necessity to say stop this, do something smarter. And yes,
38:50
Speaker 15: I think the price increases is going to be what's
38:52
Speaker 15: doing it. And remember, I mean we're sitting in a
38:55
Speaker 15: conference center that has a hard time keeping the air
38:58
Speaker 15: conditioning on because the treasity costs are so high. Most
39:02
Speaker 15: people are going to be very.
39:04
Speaker 3: Eft with that.
39:05
Speaker 15: If that happens in Australian RS.
39:07
Speaker 3: I'll leave it.
39:07
Speaker 2: There's words of wisdom and a bit of hope for
39:10
Speaker 2: us in Australia. At the end, it's good to see
39:12
Speaker 2: you now. I know the left will always use these
39:16
Speaker 2: days of extreme heat to say it's proof of climate change.
39:19
Speaker 2: Of course, after that chat just now with Bjorn, you
39:22
Speaker 2: know that's the last thing I want to do. I'm
39:24
Speaker 2: not a climate alarmist, but I will admit thirty six
39:28
Speaker 2: yesterday in London, record high for June. Tot Todd anywhere, right,
39:32
Speaker 2: But it's hot in a city because they've not adapted, right,
39:35
Speaker 2: they don't have the infrastructure to keep up. They're not
39:39
Speaker 2: particularly resilient either. The problems in many respects. So as
39:42
Speaker 2: I finished up yesterday, I said I would I'd take
39:44
Speaker 2: a camera crew and I get out on the streets
39:46
Speaker 2: of London to show how they were coping with the heat.
39:49
Speaker 3: Well, here you go.
40:07
Speaker 2: Well it was record temperatures today in London, so I
40:09
Speaker 2: promised you I'd get out and about amongst it to
40:12
Speaker 2: see how they're coping with the heat.
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Speaker 13: It's just not cut out for it in this in
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Speaker 13: this time, like, we're just not used to it.
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Speaker 3: You're a little bit miserable. I'm not gonna lie.
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Speaker 12: Also at the same time happy, but it's hard.
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Speaker 13: It's like a sawn. Yeah, but you're there in your suit,
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Speaker 13: which isn't great.
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Speaker 3: The infrastructure is not great, but we're not built for it.
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Speaker 2: Here are you the winging palm variety or you're just
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Speaker 2: lapping it up loving it?
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Speaker 13: Okay, interesting, Ozzie, I'm lapping it up to be fair
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Speaker 13: good on you, as we all should know. Open the
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Speaker 13: windows at night, closed the windows during the day. The
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Speaker 13: most of it how to be the heat?
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Speaker 3: Cheers, guys, cheers. Why can't they cope with the heat?
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I think I think the Londoners are
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Speaker 3: a bit soft.
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Speaker 11: They're probably not as quite used to it as it's
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Speaker 11: piece of besbeg home.
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Speaker 12: But yeah, they're not quite you know, acclimatized to it.
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Speaker 2: But I'm ji they don't have the same sort of
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Speaker 2: air conditioning as you.
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Speaker 3: I'm gently not. Usually I jump in the sea or something,
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Speaker 3: wouldn't I you got your best on?
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Speaker 15: Look at you?
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Speaker 3: Are you hot? No?
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Speaker 13: What you indis Oatfield?
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Speaker 3: Here about you? Boys?
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Speaker 2: It's too hot?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're boiling. English is not We're not a quip
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Speaker 3: for this. Yeah, this is not us. This is a Caribbean.
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Speaker 13: I locked up my holiday and he's twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: Where I'm going on a holiday and he's thirty five.
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Speaker 3: Here I was out inside.
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Speaker 1: For us it's.
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Speaker 3: Twenty seven and here is thirty five. It's that English weather.
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Speaker 3: So I think I've been a bit hard on the
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Speaker 3: British for a long time.
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Speaker 2: I used to say, you know, the winge that carried
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Speaker 2: on when the day was in the mid thirties was
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Speaker 2: a bit over the top, particularly for us Australians. It's
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Speaker 2: not a city that's built for the heat that you
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Speaker 2: I've stopped working. The people are stripping off in the
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Speaker 2: street and they're eating the parks as you can see
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Speaker 2: behind me tonight, trying to cool off before they head home.
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Speaker 3: Well that was a bit of fun.
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Speaker 2: I got them quite early in the day, but some
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Speaker 2: of you think had been there all night, and I
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Speaker 2: certainly had a pint as I knocked off. I'm finishing
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Speaker 2: up tonight in London. It's been a wonderful week. I
42:33
Speaker 2: hope you've enjoyed the interviews I've sent to you and
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Speaker 2: brought to you to are Please share them, particularly my
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Speaker 2: good friend AMJ. That is such an important debate we
42:42
Speaker 2: need to have in Australia.
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Speaker 3: And of course thank you Kirs Darma.
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Speaker 2: You kicked off the week very well by resigning perfectly
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Speaker 2: on time in the middle of my show. There'll be
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Speaker 2: more highlights from this week tomorrow night on Sky at
42:54
Speaker 2: seven o'clock. But back to Steve, there's lots of news
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Speaker 2: at home.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back, and thank you very much to Peter Credit.
43:07
Speaker 6: What an outstanding job she's done with that coverage out
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Speaker 6: of London. You can go back and See more of
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Speaker 6: that content from the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship at skynews
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Speaker 6: dot com dot au. But come back to Australia. Take
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Speaker 6: a look at what's making news domestically now our Thursday
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Speaker 6: night paneler here Sky News contributor Carly kats and Barnas
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Speaker 6: and former Labor MP Michael Danby. Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 6: Great to see you. I want to start with the
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Speaker 6: Tills and now a party of one it would it
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Speaker 6: be Zarrely Steger at the moment a leg respender says
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Speaker 6: she might join in. They haven't done a marketing degree
43:39
Speaker 6: these two, have they Because they've called their party community
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Speaker 6: Strong Australia. I mean that's inspirational.
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Speaker 16: Michael Well, I've reclassified them Spangle and Stegler the Spingles.
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Speaker 16: They're a political version of the Wiggles that they always
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Speaker 16: climate two hundred's political party. They are an outgrowth of
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Speaker 16: the renewable industry and some of the things that they're
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Speaker 16: saying that they're going to get votes from one nation.
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Speaker 16: I mean, why would make her on the right.
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Speaker 6: It's all about them. It's all about the changing and
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Speaker 6: the legislation of funding and political parties and so they
44:12
Speaker 6: have to be a party to get money.
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Speaker 16: They can't get more than eight hundred thousand dollars. I
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Speaker 16: never spent more than three hundred when I was a
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Speaker 16: local member of parliament. That's how unbelievable that they spent
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Speaker 16: so much already. That's why they were getting so much
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Speaker 16: dough They have the industry, they'll get no support.
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Speaker 6: They've got to be upfront. What about this footage carroll
44:30
Speaker 6: E merged today of an incident that sparked the Liberal
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Speaker 6: MP Moye redeeming this is a little complicated to lodge
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Speaker 6: an alleged assault complaint against her colleague Matthew Guy. It's
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Speaker 6: all over the website, the Herald Son. You can look
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Speaker 6: at up yourself and make up your own mind and
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Speaker 6: what you think happened. But poor old Jess Wilson, the
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Speaker 6: new leader of the Liberal Party, she needs this like
44:51
Speaker 6: a headache.
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Speaker 12: She's on her tour of visiting eighty eight Lowerhouse electorates
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Speaker 12: in the state within thirty six days and this happens.
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Speaker 12: Eats like the opposition have a death wish to want
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Speaker 12: to remain in opposition. This is not helping them get
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Speaker 12: their message out. It is not helping the hard working
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Speaker 12: members of parliament, especially those in marginal seats and volunteers.
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Speaker 3: It's just not a good look, Michael.
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Speaker 6: Disunity is death in polities. I mean, you've been in
45:21
Speaker 6: a cabinet, you've been in a government that you might
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Speaker 6: not have liked three of the blokes over there and
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Speaker 6: two of the women there, but you had to pretend
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Speaker 6: you did and your work together. If you don't work
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Speaker 6: as a team, you're going to get nowhere.
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Speaker 3: And I think.
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Speaker 16: Mean even touching women at public events is very problematic
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Speaker 16: these days, David sort of. I'm not saying it's political correctness,
45:45
Speaker 16: but you know, it's just so problematic these days that
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Speaker 16: the relationship between the sexes are.
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Speaker 6: Soap handsl caently a great example of parents intervening in
45:54
Speaker 6: the education. I love this story Australian evolves Australia's most
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Speaker 6: famous boarding school of Gelong gram Kerry Packer went there,
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Speaker 6: Rupert Murdock went there, Sair Newman went there. Charles Yes,
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Speaker 6: but the parents now of the year nine kids who
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Speaker 6: go up to Timbertop are they Apparently these girls crept
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Speaker 6: into town one night and got caught, and so the
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Speaker 6: people running Timbertop said, you're going to have to sleep
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Speaker 6: isolated intents away from the rest of the students. The
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Speaker 6: parents have now decided to take out a complaint against
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Speaker 6: the school before human and their human rights abuse.
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Speaker 12: Seriously, all I will say is actions have consequences, don't
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Speaker 12: they Actions have consequences.
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Speaker 3: It's a way of learning.
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Speaker 12: I mean. I do have to say though, that year nine,
46:43
Speaker 12: it is a very difficult year for girls who are
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Speaker 12: fourteen and fifteen. Maybe there was an element of homesickness.
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Speaker 12: They wanted to go into town and wring their parents.
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Speaker 12: But the very fact that the parents are now, you know,
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Speaker 12: taking up the battle on behalf of their kids is
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Speaker 12: not good.
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Speaker 3: I'll also say I.
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Speaker 12: Don't really agree with school pants full stop, stop, subcontractor
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Speaker 12: out an important year of parents.
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Speaker 6: Good story for you, Michael. When Sam Newman was there,
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Speaker 6: the Sultan and Brunei was in his cabin and they
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Speaker 6: all had to go and chop their own firewood. The
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Speaker 6: Sultan said, I don't chop firewood. Sam said to him,
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Speaker 6: you're going to get very cold during winter, mate, because
47:17
Speaker 6: you're not going to have a fire.
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Speaker 16: It was a sultan, a student at timber Top.
47:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, stop just sendra Allen's given herself a three
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Speaker 6: point five percent pay rise now makes her the highest
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Speaker 6: paid premiere in Australia. Her salary five hundred and thirty
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Speaker 6: thousand dollars a year plus perks. A backbencher in the
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Speaker 6: Victorian Parliament is on two hundred and twenty thousand a year. Michael, Well, at.
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Speaker 16: Least they're public I wish the salaries of your rivals
47:45
Speaker 16: at the ABC were listed publicly.
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Speaker 6: You can't get Premia five hundred and eighty thousand. She's
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Speaker 6: the worst premiere in the history of the stake.
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Speaker 3: Where are the APIs?
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Speaker 12: However, however, it is the.
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Speaker 16: ABC four hundred and five hundred thousand dollars for.
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Speaker 12: Wes KPIs in the state, as you said, worst premiere
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Speaker 12: in Australia, earning the most money. However, the Dan Andrews statue.
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Speaker 12: Maybe she'll donate the rise towards the beloved.
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Speaker 6: She's not going to do that.
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Speaker 3: I mean no, she isn't. But it's great shocking.
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Speaker 6: We talk about inflation and government spending. Every major project
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Speaker 6: that she was involved in, either as a minister or
48:20
Speaker 6: now as the premiere is over budgets over time and
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Speaker 6: it's costing every Victorian taxpayer. It's an absolute joke. Thank
48:29
Speaker 6: you both very much for coming in tonight, appreciate it.
48:32
Speaker 6: What a week that's been with Peter Kredlin in the UK.
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Speaker 6: Some of those interviews, you're really going to go back
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Speaker 6: and watch them. They are extraordinary. Coming up next my
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Speaker 6: old mate Andrew Bolt.