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Furness Show 7-23: The M's fired who? Corbin Smith, Eno Sarris and Chris Crawford · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports Deess Jordan nine k
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps Light Choose Chill.
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  Speaker 2: How do we say his name again? Bobby what Maggiani?
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  Speaker 2: According to Smith, he was a guest on the Upper
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  Speaker 2: Deck Show. Note to people, don't go on that show.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently it's bad. It's a bad omen. You're gonna get turfed.
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  Speaker 2: I kid, I like the hyphen, unlike someone who used
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  Speaker 2: to be on ten to one. I like the hyphen.
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  Speaker 2: I like Ryan Roland Smith. I'm just saying maybe his
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  Speaker 2: maybe his show is is a little bit jinxed. Because
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  Speaker 2: the problem for the Mariners was their third string hitting coach,
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  Speaker 2: Bobby maggianas he's fired today, Not sit, sir, Not the
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  Speaker 2: guy with the canteen in the street, the third string
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  Speaker 2: hitting coach.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I've been saying since May? What fire Bobby?
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  Speaker 2: Actually Muger or Monger? I like the manger better. You're right, God,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to that. I can't wait for Crawford it too.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. Marriagers lost with the Reds five
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  Speaker 2: three yesterday. Edward Bizardo gave up a three run home
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  Speaker 2: run to Salth Stewart in the seventh inning. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: it was probably Maggianas's fault, bullpen management and six man rotation, piggyback.
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  Speaker 2: That's the third string hitting coach's fault. Emerson Hancock had
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  Speaker 2: a nice day, six hittings, two run ball, Cal Raley
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  Speaker 2: RBI single. He's still only two for twenty one though,
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  Speaker 2: since in those two hits are the home run in
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  Speaker 2: that RBI yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sucking. Oh let's see Emon Warre is on
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  Speaker 2: the pup list. We knew that. Now we find out
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  Speaker 2: that he had underwent right ankle surgery earlier this month,
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  Speaker 2: confirmed by our own Greg Bell Sounders B. They lost
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  Speaker 2: to Austin FC three to one on the road last night.
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  Speaker 2: Where's Jackson? I got to have a conversation. Actually, he
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  Speaker 2: showed me the lineup yesterday. I don't I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a disservice to say the Sounders lost to Austin FC,
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  Speaker 2: the Tacoma Defiance USL team. It'd be like if Coachella
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  Speaker 2: Valley basically you played ninety per sene Coachella Valley in
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  Speaker 2: an NHL game, or the Tcoba Rainiers played and well
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  Speaker 2: maybe they'd be all right, but you get my point.
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  Speaker 2: They had nobody in the lineup last night again brought
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  Speaker 2: Keyword this hour is preset. Go to ninety three three
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  Speaker 2: KJR dot com and into the word preset. Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: your chance to one thousand dollars. Here we go, Well,
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  Speaker 2: we heard it from the hyphen on his podcast because
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  Speaker 2: we're trying to figureut how to say his name because
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  Speaker 2: nobody knew who he was. Greg said to me before
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  Speaker 2: we went on the air, as he was packing this
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  Speaker 2: stuff up here in the studio, Greg bell Our, a
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  Speaker 2: Steam ten to twelve show host, he said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they just they don't care about public perception and people
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  Speaker 2: mocking them, which is what's happening right now all across
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  Speaker 2: social media, of course. And I said, maybe they do.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they thought that this was like by offering a
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  Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb, that this would appease people. People want someone fired,
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we've said it oftentimes in this show,
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  Speaker 2: like I just you know, just firing people to fire
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  Speaker 2: people is just it's sometimes I mean, there's always reasons
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  Speaker 2: to fire somebody, but so I don't think the baseball
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  Speaker 2: team is just firing a guy to fire a guy.
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  Speaker 2: But it doesn't make any sense. So I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he says, well, there's two schools of thought.
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  Speaker 2: They'll get mocked for it, which they are, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: this appeases people and they thought, let's just get rid
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  Speaker 2: of this guy. He's I guess Seitzer's right hand guy
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  Speaker 2: for the last few years, not just here but elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: It just makes no sense, like if it like, what
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  Speaker 2: was he doing wrong? I know the team can't hit,
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  Speaker 2: especially with runners in scoring position. It just is weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's very strange. It makes no sense whatsoever. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know the guy from Adam. I knew, I joke, I
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  Speaker 2: knew of him. I knew they had three guys in
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  Speaker 2: the kind of the hitting staff, et cetera. But it
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  Speaker 2: feels like, well, are we going to fire Danny farkuh next,
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  Speaker 2: because he's a depth pitching coach on the bench, because
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  Speaker 2: the piggyback or the bullpen used to just screwed up,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna fire you know, Danny farcoor next? No, just weird, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's just weird. But you have a huge series coming
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  Speaker 2: up against Texas. You were able to God, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: people were just killing them rightfull Lisa, the people are
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  Speaker 2: just crushing them. Wow, finally they're able to identify the problem.
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  Speaker 2: John Schannic, Yeah, exactly. It's just it's odd. But they
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  Speaker 2: got this series against Texas coming up, and as I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned to Greg, you know what, you go take three
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  Speaker 2: or four or god, maybe maybe sweep it. But if
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  Speaker 2: you if you win that series, you're gonna feel a
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  Speaker 2: hell of a lot better about your situation and a
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  Speaker 2: lot will be forgotten. Now, you got the Dodgers after that,
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  Speaker 2: But dare to dream, go win a couple series against
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers and the Rangers, and you're you're in really
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  Speaker 2: good shape and the whole perception of this team is different. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: I barely got to this. They lost a series to
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  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. They lost a series to the Cincinnati Reds.
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  Speaker 2: How how how how how well? I mean the how
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  Speaker 2: is easy. Your best hitter still can't hit Your bullpen
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  Speaker 2: is very shorthanded, very very shorthanded. I know what happened.
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  Speaker 2: We all know what happened last year with Bizardo in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. But I mean, listen, you can't complain. They
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  Speaker 2: went to a leverage guy and he gave up the bomb,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, I mean he gave Bizarro gives up.
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  Speaker 2: I think the one thing with that is this, they
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  Speaker 2: scored three runs. You need to score more, Like that's
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  Speaker 2: just your offense is still a problem. If Josh Naylor
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the second coming of Ricky Henderson stealing bases and
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  Speaker 2: running the bases, and I say that like he's it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Who who knows where this team would be? I think
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  Speaker 2: you can live a little bit more with loss yesterday
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  Speaker 2: because it wasn't one of the so called quad for
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  Speaker 2: for a minor league relievers that was in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: It was bizarrero that's a guy you would put in
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  Speaker 2: that position. You know, maybe Brash would be in that
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  Speaker 2: position if he was healthy, But you put that guy
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  Speaker 2: in that position, you would expect it was a seventh inning,
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  Speaker 2: So probably Brash spire Bizardo for Rare. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: a place you can live with. Even if bra you
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  Speaker 2: can live with that. You can live with that it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Guys hit home runs, Guys guys do stuff. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the guy Sala Stewarts. That was the buddy of
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  Speaker 2: cold Emerson. I think they played like Little League or
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  Speaker 2: something together, travel ball together, good young player, and he
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  Speaker 2: hit the ball long way. They lose. Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 2: You can live with that. You can't live with the offense.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe that's why they made the move. And let's
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  Speaker 2: give credit where credits do all joking aside. They know
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  Speaker 2: the inner workings, they know what's going on behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: And if they felt like a decision and they brought
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  Speaker 2: a guy up from Triple A for the miners to
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  Speaker 2: replace Him's not like they just turfed him and moved on.
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  Speaker 2: They made a change whatever his role was and what
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  Speaker 2: he was doing. One is the number three literally the
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  Speaker 2: number three hitting coach. They feel like they maybe can
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  Speaker 2: help themselves in that regard. I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a it's it's an exercise in frustration at times with
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  Speaker 2: this baseball team. But go win a couple series and
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  Speaker 2: guess what all is forgiven?
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  Speaker 3: Watch this be the turning point. God, God, how amazing
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  Speaker 3: would that be?
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  Speaker 2: Jesus Mulger, Come on, you're right, I mean, let's let's
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  Speaker 2: clip that little thing right there. In like a week's time,
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  Speaker 2: and you wouldn't even be here. You'll probably be May
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  Speaker 2: hope we get in some little couple of days off
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  Speaker 2: after soccer and filling in all week. If that happens,
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving you full credit, sir, full credit along the way,
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  Speaker 2: Uh Nick emn Worry speaking of things that make no sense. Nick,
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  Speaker 2: even Worri has arthroscopic surgery on his ankle, and we
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  Speaker 2: will we'll talk about that with Corbyn Smith coming up
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  Speaker 2: here at twelve twenty. We're also gona get the defensive
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  Speaker 2: line a little bit. That was kind of what we
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do and get into that more today. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll obviously talk about even Worry. I mentioned it the
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  Speaker 2: other day to Corbett. I'll still stand by this even
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  Speaker 2: if they all expect him to be back for the
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  Speaker 2: start of the season. This isn't a good thing. This
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  Speaker 2: is not a nothing burger. This is not a zero
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  Speaker 2: on the scale of one to ten, zero to ten.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a zero in terms of concern level.
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  Speaker 2: And it's gone for me from being in that high
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  Speaker 2: green forest fire area up to probably a solid yellow
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  Speaker 2: borderline orange ankle injuries chronic. It happened last year for
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  Speaker 2: the first time, basically eleven months Ago. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it at all, and they took care
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  Speaker 2: of it. I think what you do have out there
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  Speaker 2: is a hell of a good staff in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the medical staff that they have. They've they've kind of
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  Speaker 2: gone through some changes over the last few years of
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  Speaker 2: medical and strength staff, but they I think those guys
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  Speaker 2: know what the hell they're doing and they made the decison.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they probably tried to hold off long enough
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  Speaker 2: they get it done.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: It's just odd watching him work during mini camp. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean I mentioned yesterday he was doing a ton
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  Speaker 2: of work with the defensive line, was NICKI min Worri
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  Speaker 2: like doing pass rush drills and kind of getting tutored
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  Speaker 2: along the way by DeMarcus Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: One.
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  Speaker 2: There's one practice I got pictures of it. I'll probably
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  Speaker 2: post him on Twitter here where he was working with
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  Speaker 2: d law and also with chennan Uosu on just some
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  Speaker 2: pass rush drills and some handwork and things like that,
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  Speaker 2: and looked fine. Now listen, none of us are looking
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  Speaker 2: at Hazy limping. None of us were thinking that he
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  Speaker 2: played in the Super Bowl. But we do remember he
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  Speaker 2: was hurt the week of the Super Bowl. He was
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  Speaker 2: hurt the Wednesday or Thursday before the game, but he
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  Speaker 2: toughed it out. I think Greg played the sound yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He said, yeah, it was fine for that game, and
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  Speaker 2: it's odd that obviously it didn't get better over the
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  Speaker 2: last few months. So they're going to go in there
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  Speaker 2: and fix it and hopefully he's ready to go. But
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  Speaker 2: I think in the back of your mind, if you're
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk fan, you gotta be a little bit concerned. This
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  Speaker 2: guy's massively important to what is the best defense in
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  Speaker 2: the National Football League and what he does. His versatility.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the game last year that he just went
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  Speaker 2: bananas in what he had, like a block kick and
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff going. I mean, the guy is
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  Speaker 2: he's an absolute stud. He is a game changer in
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  Speaker 2: an ultimate team sport. He is one of those guys
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  Speaker 2: that makes a difference. It can change a game. So
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  Speaker 2: you just you cross your fingers that you see him
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  Speaker 2: on the practice field sooner as opposed to later. When
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  Speaker 2: I say sooner, I'm saying not not September eighth or
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  Speaker 2: whenever their first game is. I'm saying sooner as I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to see him in August out there at some
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  Speaker 2: point saying, okay, we can kind of take a deep
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  Speaker 2: breath now. Don't want to take it all the way
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  Speaker 2: up to the finish line. But not good, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not a great situation because of his importance to the
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  Speaker 2: football team. So all right, here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Corpus Smith's going to join us. Like I mentioned, we
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  Speaker 2: will check in with him about We'll can talk D line.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a really underrated strength of this football team.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say D line, I'm not just talking
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  Speaker 2: about the interior. They're outside linebackers. I'm gonna include that
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  Speaker 2: group in there as well. We just talked about Schennon
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  Speaker 2: and d and d Law and everything like that. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get into that a little bit. Then we'll check in
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  Speaker 2: at one twenty with Ino Saris from the Athletic our
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  Speaker 2: baseball guy. And then two o'clock Chris Crawford's going to
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  Speaker 2: join us. I kind of reached out to him. I
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: want to just preview the Ranger series. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: Rangers have had an interesting year as well, kind of
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  Speaker 2: up and down. It was really down early, they've been
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  Speaker 2: better lately. We'll we'll talk to him about what to
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  Speaker 2: expect from Texas, who these guys are how big a
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  Speaker 2: series this is? And we'll ask him about the hitting
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  Speaker 2: coach getting turfed today too. All that coming up on
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  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KTERFM.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to take a deep dive into all things
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks with Corbyn Smith, sports reporter for Emerald City Spectrum.
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  Speaker 2: Corbus Smith joins us again. We're doing Corbyn, having him
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  Speaker 2: on all week as we preview training camp, which begins
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday. We'll be out there for the first time
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  Speaker 2: on Monday doing the radio shows starting at six am
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  Speaker 2: with Chuck Powell and company. So away we go. Corbyn
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  Speaker 2: joins us right now with the big Coon pumping hotline
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  Speaker 2: fresh off like the rest of us. Just a stunning
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  Speaker 2: development with the local baseball team, Corby. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you saw this. They have fired their third string
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  Speaker 2: hitting coach, that will change everything for the baseball team.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually thinking that joke myself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, maybe that maybe that will make
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  Speaker 5: a difference. But yeah, that's that looks to me like
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  Speaker 5: really reaching when it comes to trying to figure out
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  Speaker 5: who the fall guy is for your team not reaching
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  Speaker 5: their expectations.
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  Speaker 2: To this point, I don't have to digress. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to attribute it to anybody because everyone's making the
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  Speaker 2: same jokes right now about Well, I guess that was
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  Speaker 2: his fault about the piggyback or bullpen management or no
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  Speaker 2: leverage guy six man rotation. So yeah, I mean the
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  Speaker 2: team can't hit, but I mean we know that, but
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  Speaker 2: they got other issues. Well, we'll get to that later
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  Speaker 2: on with Eno serrus and and Chris Crawford. Let's before
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about defensive line today, and we will
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  Speaker 2: get to that here. We wanted to kind of jump
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  Speaker 2: into that as we kind of preview different position groups
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  Speaker 2: and strengths of this team heading into camp. Before I
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  Speaker 2: get to that, Corbyn, let's just go nick Emon Warris.
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  Speaker 2: As we last spoke, we've been talking about him all week.
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  Speaker 2: They put him on the pup this week. We're all
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, that's interesting. He just you know,
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  Speaker 2: he looked fine June during mini camp and the OTAs
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  Speaker 2: before that. You saw him at a camp here a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. How surprised were you? And what
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  Speaker 2: have you heard about nick emon worry and the and
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  Speaker 2: the arthroscopic surgery.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I I talked to him on Thursday, a
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  Speaker 5: week so a week from today. I spoke with him
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  Speaker 5: last week at his mini camp or as pro camp
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  Speaker 5: that he had for his h for Youth coming out
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  Speaker 5: in Edmonds. And he wasn't wearing a boot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he didn't.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't look like anything had happened on that front.
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  Speaker 5: He looked completely healthy. He'd been in OTA's in mini camp.
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  Speaker 5: So my understanding now we have information that he had surgery.
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  Speaker 5: I've been told that happened in the last within the
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  Speaker 5: past week. So it was after that camp on Thursday, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: that he had arthroscopic surgery on an ankle. And that
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  Speaker 5: all adds up because I was thinking like, there's no way,
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  Speaker 5: there's no way he would have had that surgery in
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  Speaker 5: a couple of days before that camp. He would have
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  Speaker 5: had something on his foot, he would have had a
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  Speaker 5: boon or something, and so had this clean up procedure done.
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  Speaker 5: There's just been some lingering. Just it's just kind of
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  Speaker 5: an annoying discomfort, is how it was worded to me.
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  Speaker 5: Based on that right ankle that he had the high
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  Speaker 5: ankle sprain on early last year, and that was the
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  Speaker 5: same ankle that he had the low ankle sprain on
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  Speaker 5: the week of the Super Bowl. So I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if it was a cumulative effect with all of that,
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  Speaker 5: but had a clean up surgery. The expectation is he's
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  Speaker 5: going to be ready for week one and probably we'll
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  Speaker 5: be back at practice at some point in some capacity
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  Speaker 5: in mid August. It is probably the sweet spot based
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  Speaker 5: on what I've been told.
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  Speaker 2: Well that so I think that's the thing. I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: this in the first segment. I my concern, as I
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  Speaker 2: told you the other day, I had a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a concern and not knowing these surgery anything like that,
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  Speaker 2: I just you know, you see a guy like that
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  Speaker 2: put on the pewp kind of out of the blue.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, it was the fear of the unknown.
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  Speaker 2: Now we know, and now what I do want to
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  Speaker 2: see is this. I want to see him, Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: on the field, not like Labor Day weekend, a week
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  Speaker 2: before the game or four days before the game. We
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  Speaker 2: all know this guy's a stud. He can probably get
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  Speaker 2: out there and do whatever. But I want to I
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  Speaker 2: want to have that just all taken off the table
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  Speaker 2: and see him sometime in August. And you're you're saying
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  Speaker 2: that you expected that they're expecting him back at some
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  Speaker 2: point during camp in August.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would expect that you're going to see him
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: off the pup list in mid August and they're going
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: to do the slow ramp up that they typically do.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: The good news is that look. And I struggle with
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: the word Arthur skopic. I've always struggled to say that.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: I apologize with you that the nature of that surgery.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's no such thing as a minor surgery
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: in my book anytime that there's an operation done. But
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: if there is such a thing as a minor one,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: this is it. It's a clean up surgery. And typically
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: these take three to four weeks for guys to be
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: back on the field doing stuff. So I anticipate based
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: on everything I've been told, and you know, having a
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: doctor that is a mom as a doctor and being
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: able to get some extra insight on this. I would
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: expect mid August is probably what we're looking at in
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: terms of him getting back out there practicing, and who knows,
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: the way that he heals, maybe it'll be a little
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: earlier than that, but they're certainly not going to rush
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: him back either.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: He is such a unique player, body type, how they
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: use the usage of him and everything else. Everything he
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: is is unique. So I know why i'd be like, well,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: what does this mean for other guys? And you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: does this change things for a Bud Clark or or
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: anybody like that de Anthony Bell, et cetera. I don't
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: know if it does. I don't you don't replicate Nick
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: even worry, so I wouldn't think it changes too much.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to a year ago, though, and I'm
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: just thinking, like guys getting reps in camp and different things.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Who does this help?
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this helps somebody like a the Anthony
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: Bell because he's one of the other bigger bodied safeties
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: that you have on your roster, and at least is
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: gonna give more opportunities for him to potentially play up
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: there with the first team defense. And I think we
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: also have to include Rodney Thomas, who they sign in
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: free agency.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Now, he's not a guy that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Is gonna be playing edge or playing you know, linebacker
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: up near the box. He's a much lighter build, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: he's he's somebody that's played some slot, he's played the
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: free safety position. If you me guys like that, I
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: just think you're gonna see some different usages with their
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: personnel groupings, because again, there isn't another guy on the roster.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: There probably isn't another guy in the NFL.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: They can do everything, even Warry does.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: No, that's Mike McDonald's can just be trying to like
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: mimic that with somebody.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: He is everybody in the roster to do that with. Well,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's I think that is very much the case. Uh,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And we'll get we'll get more into that as well.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about the other thing we want to
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: talk about today, and that would be the defensive line
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: and and Corbyn. For my sake, my simple simplistic minds sake,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: can we talk about the got a few millains listening,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: he's probably rolling over going what are you doing? Hardcore football?
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Every Monday this year on ninety three point three ks FM,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: at two o'clock. Yes, I love you to death, you,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: but I want to actually include the outside linebackers when
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I talk about the defensive line if I can, can
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I can? I kind of lump them all together and
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: we can talk about the guys in the interior. But
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: when we you know, most of us neo fight football fans,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: we look and we see this front and there's these guys.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: We see Shennan Uosu and DeMarcus Lawrence and guys like
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that that are on the line of scrimmage. So let
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: me let me start with those guys first. I would
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: argue that this is not just a position of strength,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: but I think in some ways it's an underrated strength
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: of this football team. That's the defending Super Bowl champions
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: last year. You I, we all know they didn't have
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a ton of guys with big number sacks. They didn't
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: have anybody in double digits with sacks. They did it
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: by committee. But let's start with the guys on the outside.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: How solid a group is this with led by really, frankly,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: probably Lawrence and Sheennan Nuosu, who really for the first
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: time goes into camp healthy in a long time.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, this is a kind of I think
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: the edge group is the one that just kind of
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: just hovers under the radar because they don't have anybody
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: that's got super splashy statistics. They don't have that twenty
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: three fat guy like Miles Garrett brings to the Rams.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, they don't have they don't have any edges
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: they're going to be putting up numbers like that. But
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: what they do have is they have a bunch of
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: really good football players that all have their own skill.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Sets, their own unique set of skill.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence is that junkyard dog that sets a firm edge,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: is a really nasty run defender, sets the tone with
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: its physicality. But tennon duos who's seen him healthy out there,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: you gets see the quickness, the bursts that he has
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: the ability to turn speed into power. He can drop
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: back into coverage occasionally under his zone blitzes, and you
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: have comfort with him doing that. Derek Hall is really
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: the one from this group that is going to be
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: fascinating because he just got this new contract and he
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: only had two sacks last year. But I've talked about
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: this for the past year. You watched Seahawks games last year,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: you knew where Derek Hall was. I mean, you could
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: feel him out there. He didn't have the sack numbers,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: but when you watch games like he's making an impact,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: is not showing up in the box score. I could
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: see him being a guy that goes out and gets
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: ten sacks this year easy if things fall in the
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: line for him. He just had a lot of I
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: think he gets a misfortune last year.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: More than anything.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: But he's to me, still the highest ceiling guy they've
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: got in that group. He's now the one true young
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: guy they've drafted. It's in that group and Dante Fowler junior.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Quite frankly, he was more productive than boy Mafe was
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: last year while in Dallas with three sacks, and he
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: had quite a few more quarterback hits than boy Mafe.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: So that feels like that could be a situation where yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: you got older, but you got a player that he's
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: only two years removed from a ten sax season that
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: that gives you that really twitchy, bendy edge that has
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: a much different skill set than everybody else in that group.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's interesting because you mentioned and rightfully so,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you know when you mentioned Derek call two sacks last season,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and that's the same number as Tyrese Knight had last year,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: by the way, same as they only lose of the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: guys that you know on the roster right now, guys
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that have a sack last season, the only sack they
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: only sacks they lose. If you want to go like
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the old college thing, you know, like returning starters or
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: turning numbers. They only lose two sacks out of the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: forty seven they had, and they had forty seven compared
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to twenty seven for the opponents last season. The only
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: two they lose is boy and But Derek Hall's two
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: sacks are misleading because you have guys that do different
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: things on that d line, right, I mean Derek Hall,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: he sets the edge. I think that's why they made
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the decision haul over Mafey, Right Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of it had to do with
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: the run defense, and I think it also just had
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: to do with his mindset and his mentality.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I just think Mike McDonald quite frankly.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Looked at him as a looked at him as a
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: better scheme fit for what they were doing, and he
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: had to remember that both these guys were drafted by
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: the previous regime with Pete Carroll. So Derek Hall is
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the one that clearly he has taken the biggest biking
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: to in terms of how he fits in the system.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And he had an eight sax season two.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Years ago, so you've had proof that he can get
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: sacks and bunches. But I just know how many times
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: last year, like he would, unprompted, say like, man, Derek Hall,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you know he's playing great, you can feel him. He
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: just isn't getting the sacks. And he knew the Hall
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: was getting frustrated by that. But I think he is
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: definitely one of those guys. He's already proven it with
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: that eight sax season. He is a guy that I
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: expect to be much more productive this year in that
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: regard and make that contract look like a bargain once
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: it's all said and done.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Touchback on Foula for a second, will you, because we
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: de Marcus Lawrence was somewhat of a revelation last year.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, people didn't know what to expect, what's what's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: what's Steela going to be all about? And he was
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: absolutely Sensationally he had six sacks for you. It made
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: big just seemed like when they needed to have a
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: big play on defense. He was there to make that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: big play. Shenna was healthy, Finally he saw what he
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: can do. He's a little bit older, but Shenna Hall, Fowler, Lawrence,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and then I'm not even won't even get into like
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a Jared Ivy, Like they're pretty deep at that position.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: What do you expect from Fowler?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Fowler is gonna be the real wild card in this
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: because again he only had three sacks last year. That's
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: still more than what boy Mafe had for the Seahawks.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: But he's only two years removed from a ten sax
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: season in Washington. He's played for Adam Dirday in his
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: first sin in Dallas, so you've got that familiarity. He
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: and DeMarcus Lawrence are good friends. So DeMarcus Lawrence played
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: a big role in getting him to Seattle to begin with.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I think that is an.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Underrated aspect of this.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I could see him.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Being a guy that comes in and only gets you
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: maybe three or four sacks like he did last year.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: I could see him also being one of those guys
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: where it just kind of pops in limited action and
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: he gets you five, six, seven sacks because he has
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: that ability where he can rack them up really quickly
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: in bunches at times, and that's kind of been the
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: way that his career has gone, with it being very
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: up and down with a sack production. But he is
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: a much different style player. He is that true upfield
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: quick even at his age, he is still a guy
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: that's got great burst off the line, and he wins
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: with his speed and the finesse game, being able to
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: use his hands to discard blockers counters. He's He's just
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: a much different player than anyone else they have in
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: that group, which I think is a nice addition from
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: the complimentary standpoint.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the big boys up front. We can
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: go down the Leonard Williams Road. We can go down.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I love Jared Reid. I think what Jared Reed brings
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: is more just the alpha male. He's a he is
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the dog. He is the guy that keeps kind of
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: keeps order in that locker room. He does a lot
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of different things. But let me get into with with you,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: with with Byron Murphy, and I just think this is
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a dude. I feel, honestly, Corbyn like this might be
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: one of those like, hey, breakout year, however you want
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to call it. I think Byron Murphy is going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: have that type of season for Seattle. I can't wait
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to see what he does. I think there's an opportunity
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: for him to take that next step in his game
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and and be just an absolute game wrecker. And and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I'm curious what you think about Byron Murphy's a season
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: holds ahead of him. Yeah, you know, there's.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Gonna be a lot of people. I've had plenty of
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: readers and listeners on the podcast and they're like, well,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Byron Murphy just had a breakout season. You know he
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: need to an extent.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: He did. He had the seven sacks and fifty.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Quarterback pressures, so he had a really good season. I
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: don't think that he is at his ceiling or anywhere
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: close to it. Though he is not even twenty four
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: years old yet. Ian He's going to turn twenty four
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: in September, I think, and I mentioned this when they
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: drafted him, I saw a lot of John Randall in
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: his game, and I think that that is still where
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: he is yet to be, yet to arrive. He is
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: yet to arrive to that double digit sack caliber guy.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: And I don't know if he does that very often
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: or even once in his time in Seattle, just because
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: of the way that Mike McDonald's defense operates, and it
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: only seems like it's by a committee approach, but you
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: have to remember me as a bouquet in Baltimore had
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: thirteen sacks in McDonald's system a couple of years back,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: So it's possible. I can see him being a guy
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: that just totally irrupts this year as a pass rusher
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: and really takes that Mantle is one of the top
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: pass rushing defensive tackles in the league, and the run
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: defense is already elite. To see him be able to
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: do that one drop knee technique at the level he does,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: that's typically something that takes four or five years in
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: the league for guys to get it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Seemed like he just knew how to do it from
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: day one. So I think he's.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Already a really good player, But I'm with you, I
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: think there's still a whole other level to unlock, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I think it happens this year, and he might be
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: the one that we're talking about getting first team All
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Pro honers after this season's all said and done, instead
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: of Leonard Williams. And that's not saying that Leonard Williams
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: is going to be, you know, regressing or taking a
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: step back. I just think that's the upside that Byron
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Murphy still has that has yet to be unlocked.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to underscore or diminish anting with
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Jaron Reid's game. When I've mentioned Jared Reid, I just
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: say I think that, and I think you'd agree with.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Jaron Reid is kind of the He's the alpha dog
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: in that room, and I think in some ways for
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that entire defense and really that side of the football,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: he learned from the best. He's selfless, which I love
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: about him, and I think you need that on a
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: team that really is selfless. I mean, but you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he's talked about it a number of times on this
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: show with me and I know probably you and others,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like he learned how you know, it's funny because Pete's
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: not here anymore, but I think you can still say
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: there's a Seahawk way, especially on defense, and he learned
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: that from Michael and Cliff in that group, and he's
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: kind of taken that mantle and taken to the next level,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: made it his own. I love what Jared Reed brings.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: He's not going to give you, you know, eighty percent of
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the snaps in the game. But he still is. He's
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: still a dude out there. The guy that I'm curious about.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see a healthy year because oh,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: by the way, the Patriots know all about him. Some
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: guy named Riley Mills when he made that tackle number
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: ninety eight the Super Bowl. At secondly, like, who the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: hell that's the kid from Notre Dame that on Draft
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Day in twenty twenty five. On that day three of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Draft Day, Corbyn, you me, Rob, we all sat there
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and I think you two guys both said, if this
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: dude wasn't hurt, in no way he's going in the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: fifth round. No, I think he goes in the second.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Early third round if he's healthy. That's the kind of
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: player he was at Notre Dame. And it was just
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: the timing of that injury and how significant it was.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I think there were a lot of teams in the
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: league that probably felt like we just you know, we're
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: not gonna draft somebody that probably needs a red shirt.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: We're not gonna draft him until middle late Day three,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: and Seahawks took advantage of that. But that sack, I mean,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be talking about that sack he had in
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the super Bowl until I am done in this business.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Like that was one of the best sacks I have
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: ever seen, not just that he should have two sacks
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: because he tackled the guard too. Like it was it
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: was it was just it was there are you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: you know how it is in press boxes. You know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: we're not supposed to be cheering and we're not supposed
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: to be whooping and hollering, and they're But like I
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: think everybody in the press box, it didn't matter who
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: you were covering, it didn't matter what network you worked for, whatever.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Everybody in there just kind of like, what what did
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I just see here?
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: And that was an incredible play. But I look at him,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: he's gonna be that. He's gonna be that one piece
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: that you're hoping is going to be able to take
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: this group to a whole other level because I think
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: he has that kind of talent and he's gonna be
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: a rotational piece. He isn't gonna have to shoulder a
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: role that's too big. But I think he's the guy
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: that you know, once Jaron Reid, eventually, once you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: whether he retires or he plays somewhere else in his career.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna retire in Seattle.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: But I think Riley Mills is that guy that's next
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: in the line, that's got that tenacity, He's got the burst,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: he's got all you want to be a guy that
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: can be a five to six sac guy in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: National Football League and also be stinging against the run.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: I think he is my number one pick for breakout
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: candidate on this roster this year.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this Corpus Smith and will
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: see Spectrum joining us. What's the surprise in that group
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: this year, whether it's a surprise veteran release or a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: surprise guy that sneaks under the roster that maybe we're
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: talking about and maybe, and honestly, Corbyn, maybe the answer
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: is nobody that we already know. But you know the
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: other guys out there, the Jr Singletons, Mike Morris going
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: into his fourth year, Brandon Peely, who just feels like
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: he's always here but then sometimes not and then he
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: ends up coming back. Bubba Thomas, Devin Eastern's on the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: pup list right now. Who might those surprises be?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I still am gonna say Devin Eastern, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: I know he's starting on the pup list, but he's
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: another one. We don't really know what his injury is
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: because Mike McDonald didn't disclose anything during mini camp when
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: he was not out there, and obviously we haven't heard
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: anything new on that front either. But I'm still gonna
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: throw him out there just because, look, consistency evaded him
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: at times at Minnesota, but when he was good, he
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: had his moments where he looked like he would have
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: been drafted much earlier than the seventh round. There were
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: times that the downs were not great. There were some
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: snaps at his college state They're like, ooh, that's you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: the gap integrity and things like that would get out
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: of whack.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: But his ability to make splash plays as a nose
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: tackle and also play in three tech. He's got a
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: unique build. He's got vulture length arms. I mean, the
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: guy has just a different build. I'm still gonna throw
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: him out there as a player that you know, maybe
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: it takes till the second half of the season, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: I think at some point we will see Devin Eastern
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: doing something on Sundays for the Seahawks, and I.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Ring all those guys up I didn't talk about me.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Is a Jared Ivy or a Jamie Sheriff. Are those
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: guys still kind of in the mix as far as
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: rush ends.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Of most two, I would say that Ivy's the one
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: that I still had the most intrigued with because he
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: can play multiple positions. He can play three tech, he
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: can play the stand up outside. He's more in line
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: with the Mike Morris palette in terms of where he
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: can play in the style player that he is, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: he's still somebody that I'm excited to see what he
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: looks like in his second.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Year with the team. Is there still a place on
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: this roster for Mike Morris.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: That that's been one I've been very torn on. And
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I still don't know if he makes this football team
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: because I think he's got a couple of things that
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: are not working for and one he's done the last
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: year of his contract. And sometimes with players who are
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: kind of, you know, on the bubble, that makes it
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: a little easier for teams to move on from them
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: when they're in the last year of their contract. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: you got a guy like Jared Ivy who has a
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: lot of you know, similar traits that you can work
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: with Jared Ivy. You've got at least two years of
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: affordable club control, if not three, on him, and you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: those are the kind of things that teams think about
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: when you're looking at the last couple of roster spots.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: And at the same time, Mike Morris was a pretty
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: good special teams player last year and he made strides
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: when he got his chance on defense. And we know
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: his link with McDonald beck at Michigan. So he's kind
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: of one that I'm torn on right now that truly
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: is a bubble player going into this process.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't talked to Eno for a while, our baseball guy,
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  Speaker 2: and he really he kind of sinks his teeth into
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different things, but especially the pitching sides.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that with him. The Mirrors fired their
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: hitting coach, that is, I mean, I don't know what
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: other way to put it. E'SI your third string hitting coach.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Wasn't Edgar, wasn't Sisser Bobby Maggi, Honess, Maggi, Honess. I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: guess just it's just it. I guess why. I don't
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  Speaker 2: me let me he checks his email real quick. That's
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: been really and I should say this. Let me give
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  Speaker 2: some attribution here too, because I think it's important for that.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: As I double check my emails, I haven't we haven't
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: got a release from the Mariners. I don't believe. I'm
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: just double checking here, standby, Yeah, I don't. We we
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: haven't got anything from the Mariners. So Adam Jue, I
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: believe it was from the Times, had that story. So
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I want to give full attribution to Adam. Yeah, nothing
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: officially from the Mariners. I don't know if I would
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: hope whoever's on the trip, whether it's Divish or Jude,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: whoever's there, asked Dan Wilson about it, it's a member
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of his coaching staff that got fired. I guess he would,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: in essence have to sign off on that. You would
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: think you would believe that that would be the case.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: So hopefully, and what time is it now, let's see
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: one o'clock, three o'clock. There, he'll probably speaking in the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: next half hour forty five minutes, so let's hopefully he
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: comments on that. I'm curious, like, why make that change?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Seems to be shifting seats on the Old Titanic a
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: little bit in a sense, right, But I think so, yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: you win these series, you're fine. We'll talk to YOUTO.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Serious and then two o'clock Chris Crawford. He and I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: were just texting back and forth saying, well, let's just
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: pop on to you. Let's talk about the series of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Let's just let's get through all the nonsense, the series loss.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Firing a hitting coach. It's not really a guy anybody
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: knows and seems to be, you know, not all that
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: much of a factor in your staff. You wouldn't think
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: unless he's undermining something nless, there's something toxic, you know.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing I guess, in fairness to the Mariners,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: if there is something toxic going on that we don't
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: know behind the scenes, you let them go, right like
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you let them go. Yeah, And sometimes changes to coaching
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: staffs don't need to happen at the very top. Sometimes
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the need they're better at. Kraken made a big one
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: this year, Jessica Campbell, I know, mutually agreed whatever they
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: made a change, and they brought in someone with much
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: more experience at the NHL and HL levels and player
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: development and things like that. Sometimes those little moves can
• 38:41
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• 38:43
  Speaker 2: one of those moves along the way. So I don't
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: want to speak too far out of turn, but we'll
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: talk to Chris about that. We'll also just really preview
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the Texas series. It's a huge series coming up for
• 38:50
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• 38:53
  Speaker 2: for first place with right now, Especially also when you
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: look at what happens next week, because after this series
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: they go to take on the best team, arguably the
• 39:00
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• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers will do that as well. All right,
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• 40:22
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  Speaker 2: role Don played. Morris didn't play. Young kids played well though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? What was the thought? A year for Danny in company?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: A messy defense? Okay, no focus? Yeah, all these teams
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  Speaker 2: Is Emon Worri really gonna be ready? Is he really
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  Speaker 2: from a football standpoint, scouting, your scouting staff, all those things.
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  Speaker 2: How are you investing in those? By all accounts, that
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• 44:11
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• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in a second, that does have me a little bit concern.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Might be too strong a word, but it piqued my
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: interest just a wee bit. So among the reported new
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: investors from according to Bloomberg News, Carlisle Group is a
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: New York based global investment firm. Apparently they paid fifty
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: eight million dollars in twenty twenty four to buy the
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Seattle Rain in a partnership with the Sounders. So they're
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: involved with that type of group. Okay, I mean I say,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I can't speak at all for the Seattle I have
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: no idea what the Scalle Rain like. By and large,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Sounders very successful organization. Hell on the field they are,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I mean current four game losing streak nowithstanding, I would
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: give what the Sounders the same catgories of Storm, Like
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: their history tells you they're pretty damn good at what
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: they do. They know what they're doing. Storm. I think
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't get in the headline. Storm lost again yesterday
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: to Minnesota. But the Storm's that young core is crazy good,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Like they're going to be good in a couple of years,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: so I mean really good in a couple of years.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: They know what they've done. And I just every time
• 45:20
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• 45:21
  Speaker 2: see there's a lot of banners up there. Let's say
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Seattle Storm, and they don't just say Sue and Lauren.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: So they're fine. And the Sounders really successful. I mean,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: we MLS, cops, what was it, COCACAF Championship, all the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: things they've won, they've done a good job. So if
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you're involved with those groups, okay, pretty good. So that's
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the Carlisle Group, and Dynasty Equity Partners is a New
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: York based firm as well. They're in talks to join
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: that same group. So kind of like this layered group
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: of different people. Here's the part that kind of got
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: me a little bit. I piqued my interest a little bit.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: And this is where because I just can't fathom someone
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: spending nine billion dollars on a franchise that just won
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl and wanting to come in on the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: football side and make any kind of massive change it
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: just or any kind of take massive out, any kind
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: of significant change, a change that affects what you see
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: on the field. That just doesn't make any sense, does it,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Like it does make no sense that you would do that,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: especially if it's not your your world of expertise, expertise
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: being football people. These are not football people. These are
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: people that made their money in tech and big business,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: and that's what they do. That's they're very smart in that.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: But the part that jumped out at me is this,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna read this paragraph from Bob's story courtesy
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: of the Seattle Times, and Bob Candta Dynasty, based in
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: New York, announced they made it a partner with the
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Carlisle Group to pursue investment opportunities in NFL franchises and
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: was partnering with Pro Football Hall of Fame running back
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Curtis Martin, who will quote assist as a strategic advisor.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So if they join the ownership group here in Seattle.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: It would be their first investment in the NFL franchise.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: But in that mix, what I just say, they they
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: these are tech people, investment people, all that type of stuff.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Curtis Martin obviously NFL running back hall of Famer. Is
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: that I'm gonna use a really hard term here, and
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna use it anyway. Is that the poison pill.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I just I was putting some trust into common sense
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: with the owners, the new ownership group, the Coastal family,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that you're not going to come in and try to
• 47:47
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• 47:50
  Speaker 2: come in and you know, mess with the football op side.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: But if all of a sudden, in this new ownership group,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: you have a guy named Curtis Martin who's Pro Football
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, who starts to get the itch and
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: is a guy that's wanting to get involved and wants
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: to throw his you know, throw some some thoughts in
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: there and some opinions in there that I think you
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: got to take a step back and say, wait a second,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Like he's not part of the John Schneider inner circle.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: He's not part of this team's inner circle. That would
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: be cause to keep it, to keep an eye on.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I'll just put it that.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: How much managerial experiences he have, that's a great question.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I just looked and I can't. Okay, yeah, I haven't seen.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen. Yeah, I've never. I don't think he's
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: been involved with an NFL franchise right in front in
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: terms of management, very minimal.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like he was brought in by the
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Dolphins to work on conduct code.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, like nothing, So that's like a player
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: relations thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I guess
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: that would be the part because I I just I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: these guys cannot have They just got to leave the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: football side alone. I mean, I frankly, I've said this
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: over and over again. I'm gonna say it again. I
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: hope they leave the business side alone. The business side's fine.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: What Chuck Arnold and his staff do is it's fantam.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: They're the gold and I say, the gold standard. Yes,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: it's the NFL. It's fairly easy. You're selling corporate suites
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: and corporate partnerships for the Super Bowl champions And that
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: was even before this year, before that for a team
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that was the most successful of the major sports franchises
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: all due respect Storm and Rain and Sounders, they were
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: the most successful franchise with the last twenty plus years
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, and it wasn't close compared to the Mariners,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: and obviously the Cracking are new, but that they were
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: the ones. So yeah, selling corporate advertising for them and
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the NFL is the five hundred pound guerrell in sports,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: you would think, yeah, fairly easy. They still have to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: go out there and sell big money corporate sponsorships, sweet sales,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: all those things that they do. They do it very well.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: And I'll go all the way down to the PR
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: staff there they are. In my mind, they're the gold
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: standard in this town. And I would say that to
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Chris Brumwell and the Crack and who I work with,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and I think Chris would agree, like he's he talks
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: to And Chris is the VP of communications for the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Krack and he actually has a really good relationship. We
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: kind of connected him with Jeff Gars with the c
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: X Lasher. They are connected rightfully, so they Chris knows
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: she actually do a great job. Pierson Garza, Gonzalez, Chris
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: white Head that they do a terrific job. I would
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: hope they would leave that side alone too, But having
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a Curtis Martin all of a sudden potentially involved. So
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: when I hear Softy and Hugh talking about a Monday like, yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like I'm a little concerned. I fear of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the unknown, not knowing what these guys are gonna do. Do
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: they want to put their stamp on something. I kind
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: of think, all along with football wise, you just be
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: have to be the dumbest person on the planet to
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: want to do that with a team that just reached
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the pinnacle of the success. But we all know you
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: get a guy in there in this case, maybe and
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I'm putting a lot on Chris Martin here, maybe the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: cart before the horse. But Chris Martin comes this says, hey,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: you know what, I think this or I think that
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: to the owners if he's got the owner's ear because
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: he's part of a group that has a small stake
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: in it, Yeah, I don't think we need that. No,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think we need that at all.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: So we'll see, just just something to keep an eye on.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I've had such little concern for ownership with the Seahawks
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: compared to many people and maybe I'm blindly naive. I'll
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: freely admit that might be the guy. Maybe I'm blindly
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: naive and I have no Everyone else is kind of
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: worried about I get it, you know, and we've been
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: burnt by Clayton Bennett. We look at the Mariner's ownership
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: and question it. There's people that even question what's going
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: on with the cracking because they haven't won all those things.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I don't really question this. This one got my attention.
• 51:49
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• 52:05
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• 53:50
  Speaker 2: lots to get to today real quick. I saw the tweet.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Do we have an immaculate inning this today in baseball?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Or is that yesterday we did?
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: Gavin Williams nine pitches, three outs.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: How How in the scheme of like hitting for the cycle,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: perfect games, no hitters and all that, where does where
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: does an immaculate inning fit in?
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: I'm looking up cycles right now, but there have been
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty two immaculate innings in baseball history.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: Well that's one of the rest things. There have been
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty three cycles, So that's at least
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: what AI tells me. I have to tell you this.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: AI.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: Summaries often have mistakes in them, but I think this
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: is right, that the immaculate inning is rarer than the cycle.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Well, if it's what was a number again, one hundred
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: and what.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: And twenty two?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: And you just I mean, you think about it. We're
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: not talking about a game. The amount of opportunities for
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: that to happen with nine plus innings in a game
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: is over the history of baseball. It's like you might
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: have a better chance to win the damn our ball.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that's a that's remarkable. Good for Gavin Williams.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Do you keep track. I'm gonna get to some other stuff.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You've got a couple of great things up there that
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: you wrote about. I want to get to in a
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: second pitch of rankings in the iPad fiasco or a
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: controversy that's going on, I do want to ask. I
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: don't know if you keep track of prospects much or
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: what Keith Law does. I just saw that he had
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson ranked is not just his number one pitching prospect,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: his number one prospect overall. He says he never does
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that with pitchers. That's significant to us. We keep wondering
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: when and how we're gonna see Kate Anderson, but we
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: saw him in the prosper the futures game. I guess
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: it was a week ago Sunday. And what Kate Anderson's
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: doing right now, I'm not sure if you've kept track
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: much of what he's up to.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I watched Kate Anderson in the Futures game, and
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: I've seen some Ryan Sloan recently, and I still I
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: might be wrong, but I still kind of like Ryan
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: Sloan a little better. Yeah, So it's a it's great
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: to have that one too combo. But to me, I'm
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: a kind of a stuff and I think what Kid
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: has over Sloan is you know, command arsenal, that sort
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: of thing. He looks pretty polished out there, but Sloan
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: I think maybe has that upper level stuff.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Kid doesn't throw that hard though, right Like he's six',
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: two he's, yeah, yeah and so the stuff plus, like
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: is there a place for an elite pitcher in today's
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: baseball that's not thrown upper? NINETIES i, MEAN i think it's.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: One of the conspt it's thrown around a little, bit
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: maybe just because he's. LEFTY i don't know if a
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: really great comp because you, Know Max freed came up
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: with that great curveball that was maybe a seventy. Curveball
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: but you, know they're time About Max, freed and when
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: you when you look at the best pitchers in the
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: big leagues over the last few, Years Max, FREED i
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: mean he still sits ninety five ninety. Six, yeah that's
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: THAT'S i don't know if that's the greatest, example BUT
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: i mean that is average right now in the big
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: leagues is ninety four and a. Half SO i guess
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: the other picture that comes to mind is Maybe logan
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Web okay has been a top pitcher recently and he's
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: around ninety. Three but you, know and then the CLOSEST
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: i can get, to you, know ninety Is Ranger, suarez you,
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: know but then again that's he's probably number, two you,
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: know rather than like An, asa right.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean THAT'S i think that's kind of thing that's.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Interesting Ryan. Sloan by the, Way Keith law has ranked
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: eighth in his prospect, list so uh so he's up
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: there as. Well and we're waiting to see if maybe
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: we see those guys this. Year but you've that would
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: if you brought those guys, up then you'd have effectively
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: an eight man, rotation you, know which they're not going to.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: DO i, know they wouldn't be star embarrassment Of. Riches,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: oh it certainly. IS i, mean there's the pitching is
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: not the problem with this baseball team right. Now it's.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: HITTING i don't know if you saw. This they fired
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: their number three hitting, Coach they got three hitting, coaches
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: they Got, Sitzer, edgar and they fired a guy today
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: that we hadn't really ever heard of. Before so they
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: they think they might have fixed things there with firing
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: their number three hitting, coach or maybe they've on. It
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: maybe they found a scapegoat for bullpen usage and other
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: issues are having right.
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: Now you can't Fire edgar, REALLY i, mean, no no, way,
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: no no. No they wanted to, toggle they wanted to
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: press some but they wanted to show people that they
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: were doing.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Something, Yeah edgar has a cantina in the, ballpark The
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Edgar's cantina restaurant concessions. Stand he's got a. Statue sandwich
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: is named after sandwiches. DRINKS a, street the street next
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: to the ballpark is named after, Him Edgar. Martinez, WAY
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: i think that gives you.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: MEAN i think about this with In. Sanrancisco, Yes Buster
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: posey is not doing a good job In San. Francisco,
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: no and he you, know he's really well. Regarded but
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: you know, what when, LIKE i think he's the only
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: one who can fire himself because he's a. Member he's
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: a member of the ownership.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Group oh, god Even, wilder, well you know he's SOMEWHAT i,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: mean he won A World series and was he not AN?
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Mvp was he AN mvp in The World? Series? MAYBE
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: i mean What buster post these resume is far better
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Than Dan. Wilson's but you, know we've joked about that here.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Too it's, like you, know when you put those guys
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: in a, Position edgar Or Dan wilson, specifically somebody, said,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: hey can you Fire?
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Dan?
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Why why can't you Fire Dan? Wilson Not? EDGAR i
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: just mentioned. It he's got a, Street edgar. Does Dan
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: wilson doesn't a. Street but when you hire those types of, guys,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: right when you hire those types of, guys you put
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: yourself in a really tough position as an, organization don't. You,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: YEAH i.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: MEAN i think you're hoping that when things get bad
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: enough it becomes obvious to about parties and there's a
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: bit of a step away sort of. Deal but you,
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: know if it was if it was that. BAD i
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: think Even edgar would be, like, man maybe MAYBE i
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: am not teaching the right, thing but also being the second.
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: Guy maybe you, know you, know maybe he's just there
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: to talk baseball with the guys that connects with. Him,
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: yeah maybe you, Know site is really the main.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Guy you.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Know sarah Jown us from The athletic Brock, Tooy, georgehumbring
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: you wrote a story on the crackdown the iPads and
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: games AND i we live in a world now where
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: almost every not, ALMOST i think all sports have some
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: usage of. iPads and during a game we See we've
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: seen it in THE nfl for. Years you see the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: quarterback go used to be they get the still pictures
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and you, know here's the shot from the press box
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: up above of the. Formation and they developed them real.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Quick they've got EVERY nfl team has got a little
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: place underneath where they used to do. That now they
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: just put them on an. iPad you see the quarterbacks
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: or even the defensive players looking at the iPad when
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: they come off the field for a. Series you see
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: it in hockey on of all, places and hockey on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: a bench guys are like getting they're looking reaching, back
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: give me the, iPad what happened on this? Shift what
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: happened on this power? Play what have? You, baseball we've
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: seen that use of. iPads i always thought a lot
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: of it was just having to do with are we
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: looking at replays or what have, You but that's not the.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Case back in twenty, sixteen as you, wrote iPads were
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: introduced into baseball and the. Dugouts what has happened between
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and now twenty twenty six it has caused
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: some sort of an issue in.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: Baseball, Yeah so when of iPads was first, introduced it
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: was just for some. Video then they closed the video
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: rooms due to The astro sign steeling. Scandal and when
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: they closed the video, rooms the players collectively bargained and, said,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: hey you, know we would like to have the video
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: like views that we used to have in the video.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: Room we'd like to have those in the, dugout just
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: to see how how were my hips doing on the last?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: One where was that? Pitch you? Know doing the right
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: thing or doing the wrong, thing you, Know and and
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: so they collectively bargained for like basically a part of the.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: iPad these are all parental controlled iPads like THE MLB
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: mlb gave them these iPads so they control everything that's on.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: Them the mob, said all, right you can have a
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: you have a tab on this that has.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: All the video views that you.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: Want they put a tab in there that has abs
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: views so that people can be, like you, know was
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: that a striker or? Not everyone's. Happy, well the coaches, said,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: hey we have these binders full of information and we you,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: know we would rather not kill a bunch of, Trees
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: so can we upload all this information that's about where
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: we should position our batters or we should position our
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: fielders where you, know what our batters, expect you, know
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: tendencies from, pitchers all that. Stuff and they, said, sure upload.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: That so then the slippery slope was that teams started
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: doing cool, apps sorted through the PDFs better basically, right
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: so you could be, like, HM i just want to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: see every Time Mason miller has thrown me a, slider you,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: know and and so a hitter can like type his
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: name in get it all real. Quick and they've built
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: these custom apps that would like figure stuff out real,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: quick or can you show me every pitch That Mason
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: miller has thrown me when we when we played each
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: other in the past in, order. Right so imagine you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: have that right where it's like every pitch That Mason
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: mill has thrown you in order in the. Past and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: now imagine that you have a generative it could BE,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: ai could be machine, learning. Whatever you have a generative
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: model that fills in the next four, pitches, Right SO
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: i want to see all the divisionations ever told. Me
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: i'll fill in What Mason will has thrown in the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: last over the last five. Pitches and now the model,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: Goes you're gonna see, slider, slider, fastball, slider you. Know
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: and so what these models were doing were projecting out
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: the next pitch that a pitcher would, throw the next
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: pitch that a, hitter the next pitch pitcher should. Throw
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: and now six teams are calling pitches from the. Dugout
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: so you know what you have, is you, know somebody
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: on the sideline looking at the app it says. Slider
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: they give the signed slider to the to the to the. Pitcher,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: NOW i don't know that it's that different from, football
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: where you, know there's a guy up in a booth
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: that probably has some GENERATIVE ai machine learning. Models it spits,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: out you, know play recommendations and then he you, know
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: says the play in the in the headset and the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: quarterback gets to play and plays. It but for some
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: reason in baseball it has you, KNOW i think it
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: borders on signs. Stealing could you have the video running
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: through a model and it's just like, TOP i found a,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: tip you. Know the app is, like here's a, tip here's.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: Tip you, know, HERE i broke the. Signs you, KNOW
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: i broke their, signs you. Know so whatever it, is you,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: know baseball has tried to stay away from that sort
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: of thing in the, game AND i, think really there's
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: a slippery slow barging in. Here it's, like what if
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: the manager looks at the app and the app, says,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: hey take this picture, out put this picture, in or
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: use this pinch, hitter and then he does. That it
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: works terribly and after the game he has to talk
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: to the media and the meeting, says why did you
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: make that? Move and he, SAYS i don't.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Know the app told, me, okay here's a AND i
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: definitely don't want to be coming. Across i'm not old
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: man yelling at, clouds BUT i am, wondering is this
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: is THIS ai gone too? Far? Then is that kind
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: of where we are in terms of like like people
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: are using it too much for the human or the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: human element should be the human being should be? Involved
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: is AN ai, ISSUE i. GUESS i guess is it
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: too MUCH? Ais and it sounds like AN ai issue
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways because you're you're kind of trying
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: to have predictive measures on something going.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: On but also you're, right it's about. Thinking it's about
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: wanting the players to. Think AND i think one of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: the reasons that it is different in baseball is all
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: of these models seem to put seem to be on
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: the pitching, side seem to make pitchers better and defense.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: Better and in football it's like less clear that it's
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: great for defense or great for for. Offense right if you,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: consist if you continually suppress, offense THEN i think your
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: league office is going to, say, hey we want. Offense
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: SO i think that's part of. It and then the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: other part, is you, know signs stealing if you maybe
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: if like pitch PitchCom has like a lot of this
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: is out of the window with, PitchCom but not all of.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: It there's a lot of signs being given from the,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: dugouts especially if they're calling pitches from the. Dugout so you,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: know there's a lot Of adjutan baseball, about, like we
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: don't want this game determined by an algorithm breaking signs
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: and don't want the astros all over?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Again would? They you, Know Sarah Jonius chris Of Georgetown,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: brewing do you think that will this new this new.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Situation do you think that that would, ACTUALLY i, guess
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: deter the pitches being called from the dugout for those
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: what did you? Say six teams are still doing? That
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: would you think that might? CHANGE i talked to.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: A couple of teams that are doing. THIS i have
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: a couple of sources involved in this, decision and both
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: said that they will continue to make what they call
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: pitch suggestions and that you know that they'll just be
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: mostly paper. Based and so a lot of the stuff
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: that is happening can still happen before the.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Game it just.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: Can't it. Can't the algorithms have to be basically shut
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: off during the.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Game, wow it's, CRAZY i mean fascinating in a lot
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: of ways as. Well you, Know sarah's joining us here
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: on The beacon plumbing, hotline AND i think, it you,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: know the more when you first said sign. Ceiling the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: first thing IS i read the, Article i'm, like, well
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: what does it really? Matter but it does border on
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: signs ceiling using technology as opposed to a trash, Can
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: like that's kind of what it does border on, Right, well.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: NO i, mean if you remember what The astros, did
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: the trash can was the way they. Related but what
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: was actually happening was they used an. Algorithm we're breaking
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: signs in real time during the, game and somebody was
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: watching that, algorithm and once the algorithm cracked the other and,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: signs they were using the trash can to tell ters
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: what was going. On so it really is the same.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: Thing now we're not doing pitch signs the same way
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: anymore because of PitchCom and so you can't break those,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: signs but there are a lot of other signs that
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: are you, know we just we just found another story
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: that's hilarious where The angels high and this is From
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: bridgeroli And sam borm at The Athletic The angels hired
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: a scout named The baseball Spot, yes, yes AND i
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: say you hire a guy Named peter, mcpeterson you get
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: what you. Deserve but The Baseball spy was In trell
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: for using his camera to to video record opposing coaches
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: giving signs in the, dugout and in, particular you, know
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: The rockies were a team that were giving pitch suggestions
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: from the, dugout and they were so you're Were we're
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: all the way back around to the. Astro now we're
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: recording guys in the dugout trying to crack their pitch recommendation.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Side, god, crazy. MAN i, Mean i'm fascinated by, this
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: by the, way on a lot of different. Levels but
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: at the same, time IT'S i think almost a Plod
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: in some, WAYS i kind of applaud what's going on
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: here with with uh the uh with Major League baseball
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: kind of getting ahead of it a little bit, too you,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: know sarahs joining us BEFORE i let you, go let
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: me just, uh let me get a quick thought on
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: your your rankings of. Pitchers we still are In. Seattle
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: we're trying to right and you know has a story
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: up there right. Now brian moves twenty one on your pitching.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Rankings by the, way some of the metrics you use
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: it for recent things haven't Helped. Seattle and then those
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: guys are Improving Lowan gilbert's number Eleven seattle's starting pitching.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Staff we just feel like it's just a great strength
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: here in this. Town is it truly? That is it
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: truly that great strength that we think it? Is it?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: Is AND i, MEAN i think it's important for them
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: to get home field advantage in as many ways as they.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: Can so they need to go on a run because
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: they have this huge strikeout change from being at home
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: and being on the. Road and that's Why wu fell
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: a little bit in my rankings because he's got like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: a twenty seven percent strikeout rate on the road and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: it falled all the way down to twenty percent at.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: Home just for, context twenty three percent of the league.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: Average so he's well above average on the road and
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: he's below average at. Home and you know the Logan
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: gilbert has the same, split but not not as, big you,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: Know and so you, KNOW i think he's he's like
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: an acent no matter where he's. Pitching But wu fell
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: a little in my estimation because of, that AND i
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: think that makes it really hard sometimes to appraise The
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: mariners ching staff fully because of this big strikeout rate
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: park factor that they. Have it's probably due to the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: stun coming in through the concourse hitting the batter's that
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: there's been a lot of research on. It we've talked
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: about a lot on the. Show but you, know, whatever
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: the reason is that that puts a little monkey wrench
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: in there because you're not sure exactly Which Brian wu
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: is the Real Brian.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Wu, okay SO i got one more for. You i'm
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: sorry Because i've been arguing about this with my Buddy,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: joshian who we have On, tuesdays and he keeps telling
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: me AND i didn't ask him this, week And joe's,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: like it's too small a sample. Size we can be
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: concerned right about What wu does on the? Road is
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: that is that? Legit CAN i be concerned about? That
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: camerica fans be concerned About wu on the road this?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Year it's not just this.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: YEAR i mean his career strike out rate on the
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: road is twenty. Percent now like DO i AM i
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: concerned about Is rara on the road this? Year maybe
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: not so. Much Like that's WHERE i agree With, Joe
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: BUT i think you can be concerned about the fact
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: that his career strikeout right on the road is under twenty.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: Percent and you know that one of the biggest like
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: forward looking, factors like if you want to pick one,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: thing like one stat to predict a future of a,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: pitcher it's probably strikeout. Rate so you got twenty percent
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: from him on the. Road twenty three percent is, average you,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: know just for, this let's say it was nineteen. Percent
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: guys who are under twenty, percent their chance of being
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: a top fifteen pitcher are one in one hundred and twenty.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: Four so among one hundred and twenty four guys that
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: strike out that strike out fewer than twenty percent of,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: batters one of them has ever been in the last you,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: know five six, years has ever been a top fifteen
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: pitcher in. Fantasy SO i know that's, fantasy but it's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: still like it's very. Similar it's just like you need
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: to strike guys out to be an, ace and so you,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: know you, Know Brian wu on the road is more
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: of a three to four and at home he's more
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: of a one.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Two it's interesting you bring a fantasy as a guy
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: THAT i did tissery baseball for a few, years for
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: many years, actually and obviously we still do fantasy. FOOTBALL
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: i THINK i think fantasy, baseball AND i know you
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: wrote about it a. Lot fantasy baseball to me is
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: is of all the fantasy, sports probably the most realistic
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: in a sense of all the fantasy, sports like you
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: can because baseball stats are just they're right, there as
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: you just, mentioned like it's a little bit, different like
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: football's got formations and usage and different things like. That
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: SO i think when you say that to, me at
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: least it makes sense along the.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: WAY i, mean the baseball doesn't have a way to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: give a guy the ball, more, right, Right and the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: closest is like is he first in the? Lineup is
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: the lead off or is he you, know batting? Eights
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: like that's the closest we have to like in football
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: or in basketball basketball is. Usage, right all of a,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: sudden you can just like give the guy the ball
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: a lot more and say like we trade away are
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: star now you're you just get the ball, more you.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: Know so there's all these, like, yeah there's team. Factors
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: the one thing that baseball doesn't have that is almost
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: impossible to include in fantasy is. Defense and it's meaningful
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: on the, field especially when you look at a team
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: that's bad defensively or you, know they're trying to acquire
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: somebody and stick them in and all of a, sudden
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: your defense takes a step step, Backwards like you, know
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: it's a big. Deal the defense is a big, deal
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: and it's not in, fantasy but otherwise it's it's not
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: a bad sport for being close to the real.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Thing and just real, QUICK i would clarify. Something somebody
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: just text me something that you. Knows Brian wu splits road.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Bad his strikeout rate on the road is worse than at. Home, Correct, yeah, yes.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, yeah road is a is a nineteen, percent
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: nineteen to twenty percent strike out right on the road
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: and at home it's like twenty six to twenty seven
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: and league average is twenty.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Three that's. Amazing that's an amazing. Difference that is an amazing. Difference,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: really it's a really big.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: Difference it's bigger than than most of the Other mariners,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: pitchers and you, know it's bigger than you'd expect to
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: give in the park. Factor this so my recommendation on
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: the pod on my podcast And rays and barrels with,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: that Maybe wu needs to kind of pitch to the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: strikeout a little bit. MORE i KNOW i know what
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: he how he. PITCHES i know he's kind of like you,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: know two three fastballs kind of, guy and it's some
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: soft contact of us and THAT i get. It BUT i,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: think you, know more breaking balls on the, road just
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: a little bit more of a focus on getting a strike,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: free you, know might be a good, idea my.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Friend good. Stuff tell me about the. Races we just
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: talked about a coup of the articles you got there
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: at The. Athletic tell folks about The ras And barrels
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: podcast for our baseball fans out there that want to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: nerd out with you and your fellow nerds on, baseball
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: WHICH i say that with all due respect.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: Sir today On rais And, barrels we Had trevor May
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: on and we looked at the pitchers who've changed their
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: arsenals the most since the beginning of the. Season we
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: found out that The guardians are going very pro into
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: the thinker and that we Discussed Logan gilbert Because Logan
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: gilbert has recently become a fastball slider. Guy he's really
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: kind of let the other pitches, go and we talked
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: about what that means for him now and what that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: means for him the.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Future great. Stuff we'll talk to you next. Week thank,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: you you, KNOW i appreciate. It thanks a. Lot all,
• 1:15:02
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  Speaker 2: travis you said that you did you still do fantasy.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: BASEBALL i still Do, yeah LIKE i WHEN i did
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: it years. AGO i did ro tissory, baseball which fantasy,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: baseball but the rotissary part of, it which you can
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: do football, too is a draft based on a salary.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Cap AND i just remember the draft being massively, intense
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: like how much you're gonna spend as, hours how much
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: you're gonna spend on the. Players but then every day you're,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: doing you're you're putting a lineup in like it's it's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Very it's crazy, intense isn't.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: It it's, Intense BUT i find it to be almost
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: more fun than fantasy football because it's every. Day it's
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: every day you're you have to be locked. In if
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: you're not invested in, it you're going to. Lose it's
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: like the whole thing with what what, like like do
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: you do you carve out time every? Day, Like, Hey
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: i'm gonna spend ten minutes a day at a certain
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: time to do it.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Because early games there was game at ten in the. Morning, Sometimes,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: yeah you gotta you gotta make sure you set your.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: LINEUP i Mean i'm in a daily lineup, league, okay
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: and rotissories where the stats add up over the. Season
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: so it's not a head to. Head you're not going
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: and so on every. Week you're in a day to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: day head to. Grind but IT'S i think it's.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Fun are you? Good?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Not this SEASON i wanted a couple of years. Back
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: it is like twelve teams put in like two. Fifty it's,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: it's you, know pretty.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: SERIOUS i. DID i did. HOCKEY i guess it would
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: have been three. YEARS i can't do it, now BUT
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: i did it three years ago WHEN i could still do.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: It and it was the. Same it. Was it was, daily,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: daily head to head, basically and it was it was
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: hard like it actually it was per, week but it
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: was daily in other, words like it was cultive for
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: the week you against somebody. Else, Uh AND i mean
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: it was it was, hard like it was damn, hard
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: like keep up with? It AND i watched games every.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Night and it's not like you, KNOW i was, invested but,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: like oh, MAN i FORGOT i didn't see my goalie
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: wasn't starting or something like. That it's a. Tense, yeah
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: it's a. Tesse, yeah you think about that compared to fantasy,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: football which is just like all, Right i'll get My
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  Speaker 2: i'll hear What, hey funds is coming on, here what's
• 1:18:16
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• 1:18:18
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• 1:18:20
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• 1:18:22
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• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: of us finished last last year in fantasy. Football as
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  Speaker 2: people on this radio station and radio show. Listening, no
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: because my guys got to come in and host a.
• 1:18:34
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• 1:18:36
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• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: May we're having our meetings coming up, soon and there's
• 1:18:42
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• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: do that? Again, no hopefully you don't get to do
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: that ever. Again i've NEVER i finished last one time
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• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Again it seemed like much of a punishment for, you.
• 1:18:52
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• 1:18:54
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• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: were supposed to do with my particular, JOB i. Couldn't
• 1:19:02
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• 1:19:07
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• 1:19:10
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• 1:19:12
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• 1:19:18
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• 1:19:20
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• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: it was that easy for. Me it wasn't the greatest
• 1:19:23
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• 1:19:32
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  Speaker 2: for joined us right? Now is we get ready for
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  Speaker 2: Arlington texas against The, rangers who they're battling for first,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: place and then a little old team called The Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles dodgers that's the next one on starting On. Tuesday
• 1:22:16
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• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Today they're. Not they're playing. Tomorrow that's when they start
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  Speaker 2: sir how are?
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  Speaker 4: You i'm confused as literal by That friday Through.
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  Speaker 2: Monday BUT i like.
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  Speaker 4: IT i like Those friday Through monday. SERIES i like
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of break in the. Monotony but it.
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  Speaker 4: IS i was confused as all hell WHEN i was
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  Speaker 4: looking to see if the game was on one two
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• 1:22:48
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• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: bit of break from the.
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  Speaker 2: Normal so it wasn't just me, then, right is what
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: you're telling me is it wasn't just? Me, okay thank, You,
• 1:22:55
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  Speaker 2: LIKE i kept thinking to, MYSELF i, like where the
• 1:23:04
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• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: week gets The. Dodgers those are all night games, too
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: which is also kind of, Strange like all Those dodger
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: games are all night. Games there's no getaway. GAME i
• 1:23:16
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• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: that it won't be just on one two six one
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  Speaker 2: for those of us to have cable on the Old mariner's.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Stream it'll be on like there's probably A peacock game
• 1:23:26
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• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: the crap that we got to figure out these? Days all,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: right before we get to a preview and have you
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: kind of break down The rangers a little bit for
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: us and what to. Expect they lost yesterday to The White,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: sox but kind of feels like everyone's losing to a
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: team called The socks these, Days white Or, red the The. Marriat,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: okay we joke about. It you AND i were joking
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: about our group, text Our mallywop group. Text actually take
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: a step. Back Does benon need to be on The
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: mulliwop group text or?
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  Speaker 4: NOT i don't think he has a whole hell of
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  Speaker 4: a lot of, friends so Probably.
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  Speaker 2: Okay we'll keep them on it for. Now, Okay i'm just.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: CHECKING i LITERALLY i gotta tell our, folks our listeners
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: literally have we have a group. Text and it was
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: for a while it was called Just mollywop and it
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: was You Nathan andrews was in, it but you guys
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: were doing a show together the, time so he kind
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: of got into it for that. Reason plus he's on
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: this Show. Jasaman when she still cared about, you me
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: and this particular radio, show she wasn't on it and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: that caused, great great stress in the workplace she. Was
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: she was not happy about. That but she's still not on.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: It and THEN i don't, know somewhere along the, Way
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: beton got added to, it And i'm just not sure.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Why it's a good.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Question it's probably the same thing that you guys are,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: saying Because i'm in the hockey group chat as, Well,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: LIKE i don't know IF i need to be there for,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: say because ALL i do is send pictures of hockey
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: cards to you. Guys but you know he's he's got
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: to earn his. Teeth he's GOT i keep spending good
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  Speaker 4: notes and doing good job reporting down. There but let's
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: just call him a, member but not a full time
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: member just.
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  Speaker 2: Yet oh so he's almost Like washington And oregon in
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: The big. Ten you're not getting a full.
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  Speaker 4: Share let's let's go talk about.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Baseball you're kind of a, member but we're really not
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  Speaker 2: going to give you all the little goodies along the.
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  Speaker 2: Way oh you, know how about THIS smu and their?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Conference how about? That does that make you feel? Better you, go, okay,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: yeah that does make you just kind of bought your
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: way in as what you did along the. Way you're
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: you're in The, hey you're in The Hockey boys chat
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: for this. Reason you have hockey. TAKES i gotta throw
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: this one at you BECAUSE i JUST i mentioned. THIS
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: i almost called you monger. Again Greg bell Called travis.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Moger he called him monger. Earlier he's not a. FISHMONGER
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: i mentioned this To travis. Earlier there's a story just came.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: OUT i Think Ken rosenthal had. It Kevin, GOSSMAN i
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: guess it's on the trade block right For. Toronto like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: He's he's. Okay so he has a list of. Teams
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: he's much like EVERY nhl player in the history of
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: the game these. Days he has a list of no trade.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Teams there's eight teams on. It one of those teams
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: is That i'm not the cracking. Side it's The. Mariners,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: wait so it's not just the kracking that people don't
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: want to come To. Seattle he didn't want To is that?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: True how could that? BE i THOUGHT i thought it
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: was just a kracking. Issue apparently it's A mariner issue as.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah are.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: Actualent people who don't want to come Into Vancouver junior
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: rely that they don't want to be a part of
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: this tiny and fittle island that we're. In it's it's
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: so much more, common or at least we. HERE i
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: have of a lot more about it with The, Kraken
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: but lord, knows there are people who do not want
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: to play In, Seattle.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Washington all, right let's get to, uh let's get to
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: the news of the. Day all joking aside the firing
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: of the effectively your third string hitting. Coach can you
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: make sense of that for?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: Me?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: Sure, YEAH i joked about, it but it's borderline. Through
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: it's every assistant hitting coach has something in their contract
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: called the scapegoat. Clause when you don't score a lot of,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: runs they activate that scapegoat. Clause, honestly what it really
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: is here probably just want to put a different voice
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: in the hitters. Head just want to have something different.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: Here so AND i forget exactly who they hired From
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: tacoma to come take his, place.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: But we'll be a guy.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: Who just gives them a little bit of a different
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: voice over these final two. Months but it really is that.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: Scapegoat it really is that you, know if you don't
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: if you're having a good offensive, season you really don't
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: even know who the hell that assistant hitting coach. Is
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: it's very, SIMILAR i think sometimes to a long, snapper
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: where you actually maybe don't want to know the name
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: of a long snaffer because you don't want to see
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: them screwing. Up but that's that's all this. Is it's
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a, scapegoat and it's a chance
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: to get because you can only have a certain amount
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: of coaches on the, staff so it's a chance to
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: get a little bit of a different different voice into
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: the hitter head over these final sixty or so, games
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: but definitely not going to be A neil. Mover and
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: if it, is then this guy is going to be,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: very very highly sought after. Commodity if that's the difference
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: that's made over these final.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Two, months, WELL i GUESS i bring it up To
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: chris because, listen the offense hasn't been. There but there's
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: absolutely there's no no scenario that you get rid of
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: one of those three guys that are in the hitting coach.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Positions there's three of, them and that of, COURSE i
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: mean the guy that has a canteena and a and
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: a and a street named after in The hall Of
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: Fame Rager, martinez and So sitser would be the. GUY
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: i guess that would be the. THING i don't know
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: how Culpable Kevin sitzer. Is we've seen hitting For god
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: for didn't we go through a stretch of like a
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: hitting coach fired every year for like four or five
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: years in a. Row it felt like with this baseball, team
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: like it happened all the, time, Right BUT i think
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: from WHAT i, understand sites is prerely highly thought of it,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: Baseball isn't he, yes he.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: Is AND i think if The mariners felt more comfortable
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: with number One edgar taking on the full time, role
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: WHICH i don't think he wants, to and number, two
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: if they felt better about the job That magnantis was
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: doing or some other, guys then maybe you do make that.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Change because hitting coaches get like even the most respected
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: hitting coaches in baseball get fired quite. Often it's just
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: a revolving door of trying to get this new voice
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: in this something that kind of gets these guys. Going
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: so it's a very understangable. Piece so, YEAH i mean
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: he is well thought. After if The mariners letting, go
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: and let's be, honest if the season ends that with
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: the type of operative production half he's, gone there's no
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: way you can bring back sites to be your hitting
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: coach based on everything that's, happened even if you acknowledge
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: this the massive amount of injuries, here but you probably
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: don't feel real comfortable of having anybody else be that.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: Voice so this is a chance to get somebody in
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: who can break down some hitting talk to some of
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: the younger. Players has worked with some of these guys
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: for a. Bit now you know it's for printing and
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: also In. Tacoma just give that different, voice and they
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: probably just don't feel comfortable either Having edgar in the
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: full time role or having somebody take over FOR i
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: heard outside of the Organization.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Chris Crawford jos right here on The Beacon plumbing. Hotline
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: we're gonna actually reconnect real quick With chris and they
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: get a little bit of. Connected and AGAIN i oftentimes
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: it's not our guest, phones so don't be texting me
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: about landline. Nonsense we have a weird based cloud based
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: phone system here that's not really a. Phone so we'll
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: reset that real quick and Get chris back. ON i
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: want to get into The rangers, series which starts. Tomorrow
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: we were talking About Brian wu by the, way with
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: our guy you, Know sarah's just a short time. Ago
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: wu will get the start On, saturday by the way
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: for The mariners against The Texas, Rangers so that's coming.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Up Chris crawford back with, Us all, Right, chris let's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: get into The rangers, series four games starting. Tomorrow Bryce
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Miller Mackenzie gore is the first matchup on the pitching.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Mound Brian Wu Nathan Valdi On, Saturday Logan Gilbert Jacob
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: deGrom On sunday and then The Monday mattine, Affair George,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Kirby Kumar rocker go as. Well that's the final matchup
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: in the. Series just first and, foremost let's talk about The.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: Rangers they are not going. Away it's interesting BECAUSE i
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: think we've felt all along like we'd see one of
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: those Two texas teams hanging around With seattle all. Year
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: effectively both. Are but what can you tell us about
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: how The Texas rangers are playing?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: LATELY i, MEAN i just looked at this roster and
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: it's not Just the obvious answer to why they're in
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: first place right now is because this division is a.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: Disaster But i'm honestly surprised they're even a five year
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: baseball team because they've dealt with the litany of. Injuries
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: Corey seegers dealt with, Injuries Jacob deGrom recently dealt with an,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: injury and just you, know a lot of guys not
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: forming up to snuff as. Well i'm kind of stunned
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: there even a five hundred baseball. TEAM i think you
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: have to give a lot of credit to their coaching
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: staff for the job that they have, done but it's
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: a really average baseball. Team but in the year Of
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: Our lord twenty twenty, six average baseball has a chance
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: to get you into the. Postseason and you, know this
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: is a team That marriners have really struggled with here
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: if you look at, it LIKE i would say that
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: The Graam gilbert one would be the one pitching matchup
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: that they might. Win at this, POINT i would still
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: argue That gilbert's better than De gram at this stage
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: in his. Career you look at the lineup AND i
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: don't see like huge basages for The rangers. Anywhere you
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: look at this team AND i just don't see anywhere
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: WHERE i would, say, boy The rangers sure are a
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: hell of a lot better than The Seattle mariners outside
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: of many manager like that might be the one thing
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: where they are considerably better at so but they've played
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: more consistent baseball as of late. Now they did just
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: lose two of three against The White sox and believe
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: they've lost four of their last, six so they're not
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: exactly on. Fire but nobody in The aos is anything
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: close to on fire outside of being like walking talking
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: fires or baseball teams this, Year so on, paper it
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: looks like the patch. Up The Seattle mariners should do
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: just fine with but they haven't played well against them
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: and got a little bit of A they've got some
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: good veterans on that, team Like Jack, peterson like de
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: GRAM i, Mentioned they're gonna hang. Around they're gonna hang
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: around for a. While and because you've played so poorly
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: against The rangers in the earlier, series it's really important
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: to win this series to get back into that tiebreaker.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: Race because there are no more one game, playoffs you
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: have to have that advantage in order to win that.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: Division AND i do feel like it's gonna come down
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: to The mariners And rangers in a series like. This
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: you can baseball, guy get tell me it's early only.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: ONES i don't think you can argue that this isn't
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: the biggest series of the.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Year Chris crawford joining, us what happened against The? REDS
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: i how it's one, Series but even with THE i
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: guess this is the series as this homestand as a.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Whole to go three and three against The giants and The.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Reds how damaging might that be?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: Potentially? Really and you, know a three and three homestand
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: is normally not that big of a, deal but considering
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: they've been so much better at home this, year ian
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: so much. BETTER i believe they're like thirty and twenty
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: three or something like, that which is a good. Record
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: it puts you on pace to win about ninety. Games
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: there are ninety three. Games excuse me if you're playing
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: at that, rate like losing home games to teams that
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: are out of playoff. Races The reds are kind of in,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: it but not. Really The giants are super far out
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: of it at this, point in part because their division
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: The west is really. Good losing the way they did
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: those last two against The reds in particular with how
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: Good monday. Looked monday was one of the more complete,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: games getting that big dump For swami after he gets
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: just that massive amount of disrespect From Tito frankcona and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: just playing such a complete, game and then just doing
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: nothing offensively those next two, days and then a bullpen
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: decision that wasn't, bad but it doesn't work. Out bizardo
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: giving up that three run homer two a GUY i
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: think The mariners should target In spencer Steer. Man that's
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: a brutal way to end that, series because it felt
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: like some momentum was finally starting to. Build you get
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: three game winning, streak you have played much better baseball
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: than the other teams over the last twenty seven or so,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: innings and then you just completely greater offensively those next two,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: days and it's. Huge every game now is, massive and
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: we are at that point now where everything matters just
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: so much more because there's it's just not a hell
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: of a lot bit like baseball left. End we're at
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: the one third. Point we've got one third of the season, left,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: basically and losing games to bad teams at home is
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: Just i'm not asking him to go, undefeated But i'm
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: also saying that it is unacceptable to lose series to
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: teams that are out of contention at this.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Point THE i mean No Corey seeger as well in
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: this series For. Texas so you've got that going. Forward
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: if You're, seattle he's still. Out they think maybe he'll
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: start hitting off a team maybe this, weekend we'll, see
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: but he's out as. WELL i had my, buddy you,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: know sarahs on earlier and we've the great DEBATE i
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: have with your Buddy Joe sheen Every, tuesday AND i
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: HAD i brought this up With eno as, well is
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: the situation With Brian. Wu he'll get the start On
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: saturday on the. Road Brian wu Road Brian wu. Home
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: they're in two completely different. Pitchers he brought. UP i
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: thought it was interesting When eno brought up and, maybe
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: as you, Know i'm not quite baseball. Guy you know, that,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Right like you know That i'm not baseball, guy BUT i,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: TRY i do, TRY i do. Try at times he
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: was talking about at, home you, know or That wu
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: kind of pitches more to, contact almost trust the. Ballpark
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: his strikeout rate is significantly higher at home than it
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: is on the. Road of the, road it's way below league.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Average at home it's above league. Average what concerns do
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: you have With Brian wu on the, road BECAUSE i
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: think one of the things As i'm listening to, HIM
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: i kind of feel like he's, saying, yeah he'll pitch
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: the contact IN t mobile because he trusts the, ballpark
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: but he won't do that on the. Road he starts
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: nibbling around a little. Bit how much of a concern
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Is Brian wu?
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: So long term almost, None short term a decent. Amount
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: and part of this IS i Think Brian wu And
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: George kirby both suffer sun in that they have their
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: way of going about, pitching and it is something that
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: works most of the, time but seen it fail in
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: somewhat spectacular fashions for both at times because of that
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: ability to pitch the contact and the opposite on the
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: road where and this is SOMETHING i just started noticing
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: a little bit ago that he is trying to nibble
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: a little more when he's away FROM t. Mobile he
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: is trying more to generate more swing and. Myths and
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: that's not a bad thing per, se because ultimately the
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: best thing a pitcher can do is get somebody to
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: swing and. Miss BUT i think there's a little bit
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: of a stubbornness to him that can lead to an
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: incredible amount of long term success because HE i know
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: people hate this phrase trusts the, process BUT i think
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: sometimes you've got to be able to make, adjustments AND
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: i Think Brian wu is still learning how to make those,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: adjustments and in particular on the. Road AND i also
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: think this ian like he Wants Brian. Wu sometimes it
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: looks Like saying is just getting his head way too,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: much like there's some bad body language at times For Brian.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: Wu AND i kind of appreciate it that he cares so. Much,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: yeah but he's got to do he's got to do
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: a better job of Like Luis CASTILLO i think does
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: the best job of. Anybody and some people taking as,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: NONCHALANT i think it's just he lets things. Roll he
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: lets things if he gives up two runs at it,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: inning if he gives up no runs an inning and
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: it strikes out the, side he gives his prayers up
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: and he goes about his. Business that's a more effective
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: way long term to. Pitch AND i Think brian Wu
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: will get. There but that's my ultimate, concern a little
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: bit of stubbornness and maybe letting things get to him
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: a little bit too. Much and you're just way too
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: handsome of a guy to do, That Brian. Will you
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: should have all of the confidence in the world in
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: your stuff and just just letting it. Go just let stuff.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: GO i know it's easier said than, done but it
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: is concerning for me because the pattern on the. Road
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: now we have a large enough sample size that this
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: is just not just bad. Luck this is bad pitching
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: when he is away from T Mobile.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: Park SO i went through the. List Goren miller Of
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: aaldi And wu De Gram, Gilbert, kirby And. ROCKER i
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: read where The rangers literally set up their their rotation
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: out of the break with their first series In atlanta
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: in The chicago, series and in this they almost set
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: it up for this for this. Series they were looking
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: ahead for this. SERIES i don't know If seattle did.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: THAT i know The rangers kind of set it up
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: for the. Series who's got the in the four, Games
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: who's got the pitching advantage or is it basically a?
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: PUSH i would still Say, Seattle Kenzy garth really, inconsistent
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: mad even close to the same pitcher as last. Year
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: gron's still pretty, good and De gram has kind of
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: Dominated seattle at, times which you, know he's dominated.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: A lot of.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: People and THEN i Give Kumar rockers had a chance
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: to be a solid back and start our mid rotation starter.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: Someday still would take What seattle's putting out there right.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: Now it's not a massive advantage just because some of
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: these guys just haven't pitched well enough outside of Really
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: gilbert on the. Road SO i give The mariners the
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: advantage in the, pitching but it's not as substantial as
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: it probably should.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Be next seven, games these four the three against The.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: DODGERS i, mean, well we can be in Obviously monday
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: For may a Lot, monday but these next seven games
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: biggest stretch of the, season and can it determine anything
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: long term or is it again still too early even
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: though we have a third of the season.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: Left as you, Mentioned, ah, boy it's it's gonna be
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: tough because some of this depends on just how well
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: the series. Goes like, you if you take three of
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: four here against The, rangers which is asking a, lot
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: The dodger series kind of becomes A i think the
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: cake type of, thing like just don't get, swept and
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: even if you do get, swept, hey at least you
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: took three out of four and you're gonna have time
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: to make it up if you lose this series and
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: then you got to go play Those. Dodgers, oh it
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: could be massive because everything is so tight and there's
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: just not that many games. Left there just are not that.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: MANY i, know you look and see what is it
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: SIXTY i think it's exactly sixty games, left and you, think,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: oh that's so. Much not, really not, really especially with
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: so many teams so. Close so, yeah this is. MASSIVE i,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: mean this is one of and it sounds, hyperbolic BUT
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: i don't think it. Is in terms of getting your
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: old it's one of the biggest Weeks america long.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: Time your your phone broke up a little. Bit but to,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: summarize like you, said we've heard you say at the,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: end this is one of the biggest series they've had
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: in a long.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: Time, yeah this this whole, Week this whole week is
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: going to be absolutely. Massive they have to they have
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: to hold their own and you really need to win
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: this series against The rangers if you want to kind
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: of take away this division. Championship you get a chance
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: to kind of go bigger if you can get this
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: series when against The.
• 1:43:04
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• 1:43:07
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• 1:43:11
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• 1:43:19
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• 1:43:23
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• 1:43:35
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• 1:43:39
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  Speaker 2: Wilson that'll solve the. Problem here's the, thing The, POTOS
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  Speaker 2: i don't. Know i've come around On. JERRY i don't.
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• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: him more than Justin. Hollander hollander is A, gm BUT
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: i Mean jerry's the. Architect they've put together a good
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: roster and a hell of a you, know in a
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: decent farm, system with two of the best prospects pitching
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: wise in. Baseball they haven't even get over the hump,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: yet and not with a huge, budget and not with
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: a Huge, YEAH i, mean the understand, this if we
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: had the salary cap that is being proposed By Major League.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: Baseball The mariners are one of the teams below the
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: basement right, now they're below the. Floor they would have
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: to increase their payroll they've. DONE i don't. KNOW i
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: know we want all want to Blame. DAN i get,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: that and for various. Reasons there's probably a lot of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: valid reasons that are brought up all the. Time guys
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: got to play, Better Like naylor's been not. Good dick
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: brought up the war the other day With naylor Or
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: rosemarin And. Callen it's like abysmal combined with those. THREE
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: i think it's two for those. Three Cal's cal can't
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: keep getting a free. Pass guys like, like he's got
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: to be. Good randy has been really good, offensively his
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: field play is a well at, times and, well let's
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: not say that his play in the field sometimes is,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: adventurous it's. Entertaining it's everything but. Good but he gives
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: you so much to play it hard to criticize your all.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Star he's been. Fine starting, pitching by and large has
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: been good. Enough we'll pennas. Shorthanded it's it's the guys
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: that you expect to be. Better need to be better
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: hitting the. Ball and The julio THING i don't, get,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: MAN i still don't get the thing where you get
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: hitting the ass with the. Ball you can't play for
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: like the first three, innings but they didn't come in.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Later that's a hard one to sell the. FANS i
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: didn't read half the text about that the other day
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: because people were. Sideways i'm not going to call a player,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: soft but that was what a lot of people were.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Saying so way we. Go oh two Six merriors of
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: announced they have fired their fifth String dippin' doots. Distributor
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  Speaker 2: that should solve all the. PROBLEMS i wonder if the
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• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: next he probably. Is LIKE i said, earlier maybe fire
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Guy that might be the next thing along the.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: WAY a lot of people after a lot of Anti
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: jerry To poto stuff on there, today nobody even knew
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: who this guy. Was nobody know who this guy, was
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: and yet now it's caused this firestorm of just outraged
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: at the baseball team BECAUSE i fired the third string
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: AND i keep on the third, string but just the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: number three hitting. Coach but people don't know who he.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: Was now they're. Mad let's, see it's interesting And i'm
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: just trying to read. It i'll read this one about
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: Kurs martin part of the ownership group or at least
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: involved with one of the potential. Investors we don't don't
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: need new owners coming in and screwing it. Up why
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: the hell is Churs martin done except accumulation of garbage
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: yards and no management or talent evaluations billionaires often metal
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: in his naive to think these outsiders won't that. AGAIN
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: i Saw Curtis jones Churs martin's name today And i'm, like,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: yeah that's that's cause for, Concern Like i'm we don't
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: need him meddaling around with not with the BEST gm
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: that this sport has seen in the last two Decades schneider.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: Has you don't need him having some guy coming in
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: and helicoptering in that used to play the game that's
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: never been involved in management to tell him what to,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: do and not to say that that's going to be the.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: Case but those are the things that you worry about
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: as a as an, organization as a fan, base, Like,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: okay how's this new ownership going to? Be, well we don't,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: know but you don't need. Meddling ian A Seahawks california.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: OWNER i smell, Trouble, Ralph, Ralph bellevue And. Crossroads, Yeah
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: i'm going to hold out hope that this is certainly
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: Not Ken bearing part. Two AND i think we Had
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: pe Von reichbauer on a couple weeks. Ago you did
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: point out that the difference in money is, substantial not,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: just and even if you take away the inflation, rate
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: he paid what would be the equivalent today of two hundred.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: Million these guys are paying nine billion. Dollars they're totally
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: different people in a totally different class of. Finances but
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean they won't make bad. Decisions they. Could marcus
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: says AM i the only one that couldn't care less
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: about training. Camp, OH i think the guy coming up
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: here in a minute. Doesn't we'll see if what he
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: wants to. ADMIT i Know softy doesn't like training camp at,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: all and he hates the, preseason hates the. Preseason BUT
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: i know. This i'm sitting at a table with a
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: bunch of guys last night we played golf On. Wednesdays
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Little league we're in And i'm sitting there and that
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: became a topic of Discussion seahawks training. Camp how excited
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: guys were talking About Byron murphy's name got brought, Up
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: some of the guy's names got brought. UP i think
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: if you were to pull like the sports fan in this,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: CITY i, Think, marcus you are not only in the,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: Minority you're in the like single digit minority about people
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: caring about. Training i'm curiously what the crowds are like this,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Year trav because, well AND i think they will be,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: too coming off The Super bowl win the Last there's
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: no doubt that those of us that are out out
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: there every. Day we've talked about this a. Lot we've
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: talked about in the. Air last, year it felt like
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: we saw a little bit of a decline in terms
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: of the actual people in the you, know that were.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: There it used to be you couldn't you couldn't squeeze
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: a piece of paper between people on the, berm and
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: that hasn't been the case the last couple of. Years
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's waned a little bit. Now maybe people just, Realize,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: God i'm going out there sweating in the sunshine and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: watching football practice for two hours with the maybe CHANCE
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: i get an autograph hopefully possibly who, knows and it's
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: just not worth it, anymore or there was just a
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: little bit of declining. INTEREST i we'll see what it'll.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: Be what it looks like this weekend for the first
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: couple of days as, well and we're back there On
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: monday two uh three to. Six. Oh i'm trying to
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: figure out this sarcastic or. Not So i'll read it
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: and you tell me. Troff, okay. Yep i've been trying
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: to figure out this person might be watching on. YouTube
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: i've been trying to figure out who you look.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: Ian i've always thought to, myself, wow he really looks
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: like that one guy seen ON tv During seahawk. Games
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: went and watched a few of the Older sea games
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: and there he was the guy you look. Like and
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: then he said his name and it was. You, yes
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: that was. ME i can't tell if that's sarcastic or.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Not it, no, well, like, YEAH i did that for sixteen. Years,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: yeah that was.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: Me that was.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: Me didn't have a. BEARD i THINK i had beard
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: the last. Year i'm, SORRY i did have a. BEARD
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: i had a beard the last last year or. TWO
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: i had a. Beer, yeah those days are. DONE a
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: lot of people, talk Where's? Donovan Says Jim. Everett he's
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: in he's playing for The Auqua. Socks waiting For Brendan
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: donovan to come. Back that's LIKE i don't, know waiting
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: to see a unicorn on a. Farm like it may never.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Happen just don't get. Hurt never please if, It if
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: it does, happen if you do see him, again it's,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: remarkable like seeing a. Unicorn, yeah, Yeah, okay we're. GOOD
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: i think we're. Good, uh we'll check in and see
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: the softy's enthusiasm for training camp coming up. Next all,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: RIGHT i got a text for, you.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: Sir.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 8: OH i thought you're gonna mention a text THAT i
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: sent you. Today, NO i got a text from for
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 8: anest THAT i would like to read on the.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: Air, no you. Didn't, OKAY i can't do. That that'd
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: be somebody that's not named for. Us so our our
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: Buddy marcus texted. In they, said AM i the only
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: guy that doesn't care about training? Camp AND i said
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: there might be a guy coming up after me that's
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: not really you don't you hate the, preseason WHICH i,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: thought tran the preseason training? Camp i'm, fine, with you,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: know we just use it as a tool to Talk.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 8: Seahawks yeah, right there's a reason this preseason and you're
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 8: still out on. Preseason i'm going to give you On, monday,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 8: though my top eighty seven THINGS i observed from day.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: ONE i thought it was, no it.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 8: Grows it actually drops down By okay every, year every
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 8: YEAR i get.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: OLDER i just give one damn about one.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 8: Thing pre preseason. Anything preseason football is a. Joke preseason
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 8: football is a total. Joke is there any preseason that's?
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: GOOD i like spring? Training got, SEE i don't mind
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: having it. On i'm the opposite of. That, well you,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: know it's because because by the time you get to
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: the second, inning you don't know any.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 8: Guys, yeah But i'm not watching it for that. Reason
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 8: i'm watching it just for the cosmetics of, it, right the.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 8: Aesthetics you, know it's the middle Of. March the weather's
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 8: terrible up.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Here what's on THE?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 8: Tv you see the birds chirp and the sun shining From, Peoria.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 8: Arizona people on the stands drinking.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Beers you, know the whole. Thing the, wait, wait there was.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: There it was all, right, guys there it.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: Was let's pan back to the third base line about
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: five rows up over. There you know, what all, right just,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 8: yeah just keep the camera right there for. Whatever BUT i,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 8: mean for, me it's just more of a signal that
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 8: summer is on the. Way spring and summer on the.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 8: Way preseason football is absolutely horrific because of the way
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 8: people lose their mind over guys that play.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: Well oh.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah but here's the difference, though in spring training, baseball
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 8: if a guy ends up being red hot coming out of,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 8: NOWHERE i could see that potentially translating a little bit
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 8: to the regular. Season Or i'm not going to watch
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 8: a ninth string running back go up against a ninth
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 8: string linebacker in the fourth quarter and expect that guy
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 8: to do that when he takes on a number one
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 8: linebacker in the first game of the.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: Year or or the. Opposite maybe you see a catcher
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: that hits sixty one home runs and is awful in the,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: spring and by the, way he's still awful right right,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: now he's still translating to.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 8: That, well What i've been saying about Cal riley is
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 8: that he's a one trick pony who's not doing his trick,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 8: yep and he needs to. Start he needs to put
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 8: his magician hat back on because he's got nothing else to.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: Offer, hey besides.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: Bombs you know we're talking, offensively, defensively, fine offensively Nothing you.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: Missed your calling him life, professionally which was? What and
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: and maybe there's a way we can get you there
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: you needed to. BE i just, Thought i'm one of
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: my favorite bad news bears. Lines what it's a bigger eating?
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: Moron that is a great. Line, god you needed to
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: be a director in, television, right but the cutaway director
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: for either spring training games with The World. Cup oh,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: god we got the best director. Ever we got.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 8: It Why i'm saying, That, yeah we got we got
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 8: a mutual buddy of, ours by the, way who does that?
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 8: Stuff And i'm not going to say who it, is uh,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 8: huh but he has shown me some b roll, tapes oh,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 8: yeah of stuff that they find in the stands that
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 8: they can't put ON. Tv and this is going back
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 8: thirty years, ago by the, way to The, kingdome.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: So early early. Nineties is that is The i'm safe
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: time about something that happened in the early, nineties, RIGHT
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: i fou't even okay talking about me or me just,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: okay got? You so WHEN i worked At Como television
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: for The Great Bruce, king right Late Great Bruce, King Bob,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: Rondo Rick, meeter AND i was a sports. Producer we
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: back then there's a thing called the hydroplane races that
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: were a big. Deal we would go the WAY i,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: know there's four races this, Year big. Four they've really
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: really gotten. Going we used to have to go out
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: there and as Because i'm kind of the lower rung
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: of sports producers are actually the lowest. Rung we would
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: be out there basically shooting death, tape like because the
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: guys go around doing the you, know on the qualifying
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: and all. This, well we also had someone that was
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: on the log boom shooting video for the same. Reason
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: we had some, Tape, like we had some tapes from.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: That i'm sure you did. That the thing was especially
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: like IN tv news back then with everything being coded
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: and like little beta. Tapes, man we had to be
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: careful with. Those but they're somewhere in the bowels Of Como,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: television BECAUSE i know my Guy Joe wren keeps the
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: library there right there are some incredible.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 8: Tapes has gone. WILD i was just going to say
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 8: that would know how girls gone? Wild was founded on
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 8: the log boom At Lake. Washington did you get the?
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 8: Butt did you get the bier?
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: Flip that's how it was. Founded, man you go to our,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: guy we go to our. PHOTO i hate you get the?
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: Hate?
• 1:58:04
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• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: No but check this.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 8: OUT i gotta tell, you, man WHEN i was a,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 8: KID i was a huge fantasy fair buddy of. Mine
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 8: my Friend matt used to his grandparents used to live
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 8: right above the, pits about four or five houses, up
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 8: and they had phenomenal views of the entire. Thing we'd
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 8: go there every. Year and NOW i couldn't tell you
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 8: if we're even doing it, anymore, Honestly LIKE i told,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 8: YOU i JUST i got an email of the.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: Day they have four, races not. TOTAL i thought you
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: meant they had four races at T. Mobile, no, okay
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: there's more of a on The Jumbo trick Hydroplanes limited
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: hyder planes are more of a sport at team than
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: they are. There got? You got you all? Right i'm
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: going to see that find some of those beta. Tapes
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: i'm sure you will ask your wife for some.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 8: Help, hey, honey would you mind looking for some vhs
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 8: or beta. Videotapes they might be in the. Attic if
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 8: you find, them don't watch, them just to hand them, over.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: You, KNOW i think shot those everybody. Shamming. SEE i
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't gonna mention the. Name that's the. THING i, mean he, retired,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: right so it's not a big. Deal we can bury
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: his ass.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 8: Literally travis just said on the, air we have a
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 8: mutual friend whose NAME i will not, mention and then
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 8: he mentions the.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: Guy, okay he's, Fine, gee he'll send me a. Text,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: god he's In montana right. Now he's. Fine, yeah that's
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: where all perverts. Go, well weren't you just?
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: There?
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 5: No BUT i?
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: Left, yes BUT i? Left what are you coming up?
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: Here there for four? Days it doesn't? Matter what are you?
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: Doing what is? Today?
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 8: Thursday Jay brewer will join, Us Brett boone will join.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 8: Us how about The mariners whacking their assistant hitting coach?
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: Today their third string hitting?
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 8: Coach a third String so sites Are edgar and then
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 8: this Guy, okay, well isn't he listed as the assistant
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 8: hitting coach or?
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: WHATEVER i don't, know he's just an. ADVISOR i went
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: down on the depth. CHART i figured that he was
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: ahead Below.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 8: Edgar but well that that should be enough to satisfy
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 8: our thirst for, CHANGE i, think don't. YOU i, Mean
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 8: brock AND i have been talking for the last month
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 8: THAT i think this is. It majellanis IS i say
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 8: his name his name for we all know that he's
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 8: the problem that. UP i brought that up on the
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 8: text line and people are losing their.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: Mind that's. INSULTING i mean it's, well they don't get,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: sarcas they can't they can't do anything right now and
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: get people. Happy, WELL i, mean why would they do
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: it with this?
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 8: GUY i don't know EITHER a they think that this
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 8: will be enough to satisfy, people OR B richiel amb
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 8: well that's What i'm. Saying OR b he actually like
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 8: did something like company policy or. WHATEVER i, mean like
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 8: who knows man the insubordination blah blah. Blah they might
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 8: actually have AN hrd department. Whatever i'm sure they do
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 8: probably have a couple of hr. Departments all, Right so
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 8: that's coming. Up Jerry brewer's coming, Up Bret boone's coming,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 8: up and Then Randon williams have the story today about
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 8: the new private equity firms investing in The.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: Hawks he'll be with us as well today NEW Gm Curtis.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: Martin All, right see. It i'm in for the mild
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: mannered and marginally objectionable The. Inverness this is paddled, day
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: saying so long, everyone