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Episode 20 - From Bull to Escort: The Sigma Male’s Playbook for Discretion, Desire & Dominance · The Bull Brotherhood

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i can dance and love to dance you know yeah um
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yeah so you know we danced not learning to something
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fast but back long then they you know they slowed
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it down much like they don't do now in clubs
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but they slowed it down you know the lights go
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down and that's when you get a chance to get
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close to your lady and uh you know see what you're
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working with i mean you see it in the damn dress
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and everything but you but you see but you get
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If you're here, you're not just curious. You're
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ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives,
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stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.
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Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
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and welcome to another informative episode of
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the Bull Brotherhood Podcast. I'm Brian Morgan,
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a .k .a. the Sigma Male, the beautiful siren.
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What's up, baby? Not much. Good deal. And, of
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course, my nephew, the perpetual student himself,
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Socrates. What's up, dawg? What's good? What's
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good? Just, um... I can't... you know, excited
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about this episode. Yeah, I know you are. I know
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you two have about 50 million questions about
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a topic that I normally do not discuss because
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it is all about discretion. But since I am not
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overseas anymore, I am very happy, ladies and
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gentlemen, to talk about something that I, not
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to brag, but I... Did very well for a couple
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of years. And that is the world of being a straight
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male escort for single ladies as well as couples.
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So without further ado, I'm going to turn this
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over to Nephew and Siren because I know I'm about
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to get hit with a whole lot of damn questions.
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So I'm very, very anxious to answer them. So
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take it away, y 'all. Yeah, we're excited. We're
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excited. I'm very fascinated in this because
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I, for one, believe that there is a legitimate
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and valuable and even empowering experiences
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to be had in escorting. And I know if I was going
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to ever get those kinds of experiences, stories,
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or if not. wisdom from that was going to be you.
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So I'm, I'm excited. So, um, you know, for our,
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our listeners, I think heard your story of you
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getting started in lifestyle, but isn't that
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the exact same story of you getting started in
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escorting or am I confusing the two? It is. It
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is. Um, I started out with, um, the very, very
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beautiful Russian lady taking me to parties.
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um there was where i was introduced to the hot
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wifing world i didn't know it was hot wifing
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then but it turns out that you know i got into
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hot wifing through that you through going to
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parties and um excuse me i'm a tad bit congested
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but uh later she actually bought up you know
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have you ever thought about doing this for uh,
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time and attention. I won't say payment, you
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know, providing time and attention to, uh, select
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females and select couples, you know, and that's
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how she introduced me to the, the other side
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of the parties. So, you know, hats off to my
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beautiful Allen. Don't know if she's still living.
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I won't say her name. I think I've said it before
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though, but, uh, miss her very, very much. She
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taught me so much. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds amazing.
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So what was your, what were you thinking in that
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moment when she approached you? Was like, hell
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yeah. Or were you like, had to think about it?
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I was like, I don't know what the fuck I'm getting
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into. Because I had to research when I researched
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what being a male, and I will say escort, escort
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sounds so, I say companion. being a male companion
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was, I found out very, very quickly that it was
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not about you just providing sexual attention
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to a female. It had nothing to do with that,
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really, to tell you the truth. If that came up,
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so be it. But they were not engaging you for
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that. They were engaging you for, here again,
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your time and your attention. So I had to learn
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how to be... very, very attentive. I had to learn
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how to be a great communicator. I definitely
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had to learn what discretion was because this
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world is all about discretion. Some of the people
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that I met, they were very, very affluent people
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in the German city that I lived in. So conversation
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skills, you know, just... Learning how to, like,
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groom and have great hygiene and body game, as
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you hear. You know, all of that was taught to
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me. All of it. Well, that's dope. So you were
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thinking, I don't know what this thing is, but
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I'm going to jump in and find out. Yeah, yeah.
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Nervous as hell, but after I did it a few times
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and established, like, kind of like a pattern
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of how I was going to be with couples. Then I
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became very, very comfortable. That's what's
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up. So talk to me about your first date. What
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should I call it? Your first date? Your first
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experience? Your first encounter. Encounter.
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Encounter. First encounter. Talk to me about
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your first encounter. Walk us through and walk
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us through like the ladies that we want in our
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sphere of listening and the guys. Tell us what
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you were thinking. You know, tell us what, describe
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as much as you can. Let's slow it down. We want
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to hear this because I'm like, I don't know how
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it works. And I watched the show on it. I think
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you might talk about that later. But I want to
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hear, like, me, I like to, you know, dudes, give
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me the bullet points. But for the ladies, too,
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Unc, you know, tell us how you felt and what
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was going on during that time. The very first
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experience, or one of the very first experiences,
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came from a very, very beautiful lady, a business
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owner that lived in, I can say, Frankfurt, Germany,
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that was next to the city that I lived in, which
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was Wiesbaden. And she owned, she was a business
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owner. My handler knew her. She actually went
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to her to get hair. you know done and then different
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things nails and stuff like that so that pretty
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much said she was in the beauty industry she
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owned several places not just one place um and
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my handler told her of our encounters you know
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how we met and everything so she wanted to meet
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me and um here again i had gone to several parties
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this particular lady did not attend parties or
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anything like that um but she did go out to like
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clubs so i actually the first meet was at a club
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in wiesbaden germany it was called the uh the
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park cafe that's what the club was called and
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uh we actually everything went through my handler
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okay i was considered an independent contractor
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but everything went through her you know i had
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pictures um I had like a whole portfolio that
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was almost like you would do on the different
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sites, SDC, SLS, AFF, et cetera, et cetera. But
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like a broader platform, a broader spectrum.
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So the lady was able to see all of that. And
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then we decided to meet. It was on a Sunday night.
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It was in that particular club. I asked my handler,
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you know, what type of wardrobe did she usually
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wear and et cetera, et cetera. So, because I
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knew on Sunday nights you had to be dressed particularly
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nice to go inside this club. And so I was, of
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course, as they say in the military, standing
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tall, looking good. You know, the body game was
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right. The head's always shaved to perfection.
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Shining like new money. You know, I was like
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a certain entertainer, you know, take off them
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blue jeans and put on them baggies. So I had
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the pleats going, you know, to the crease in
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the pants, the one -inch cuff, you know, the
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shoes. You remember how you saw me at that splash
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that night? Yep. I want to say it was that Saturday
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night. Yeah, and I threw a blazer on with that.
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Throw a blaze on me that gear that I had on.
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That's what I was wearing. She dressed very,
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very nicely. I would say evening type wear for
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the club. Gorgeous, tall, tanned. And we met.
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Immediately got a table and everything. The conversation
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at first, I am not going to lie to you, I was
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nervous. I was nervous. But then something just
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said, Brian, just be you. Don't try to be somebody
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that you're not. You know, you're a Southern
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gentleman, so greet her like a Southern gentleman
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does. Pull out chairs for her, sit down. Don't
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sit too close at first, but don't sit across
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the damn table either. You know what I'm saying?
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Let her know that you're there for her. Everything
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is about her. We say I don't drink that's one
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thing I've told you guys before I don't drink
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I don't smoke I had I think I had just ice water.
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I don't think I took three sips I'll tell you
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damn truth, but she had something to drink and
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the conversation went from Just you know getting
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to know each other The typical, you know, what
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do you do etc, etc? Of course, she knew that
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I was in military. She had a lot of things to
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ask about the military and It went from that
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to, you know, eating a little something while
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we were there. Dancing. We got up on the dance
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floor. She was a good dancer. So, you know, we
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had a good time dancing. Can you cut up a rug
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or what? Like, you got skills or you got two
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left feet? Yeah. No, no, no. Oh, fuck no. Hell
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no. No, no, no. No, I can't. I can't dance. I
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can't dance. And love to dance. You know? Yeah.
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Yeah, so, you know, we danced. Not really just
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something fast, but back long then, you know,
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they slowed it down. Much like they don't do
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now in clubs, but they slowed it down. You know,
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the lights go down, and that's when you get a
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chance to get close to your lady. You know, see
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what you're working with. I mean, you see it
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in the damn dress and everything. But you get
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to wrap the arms around her. I think you mean
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feel what you're working with. That just reminded
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me of your story about the lady in the retail
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store. So my mind was wandering quickly far away.
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to another sexy place in time well yeah though
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uh you know get up close and you know you dance
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and everything and like i said um you don't go
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into anything thinking that okay you're gonna
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have sex you don't but in the end we ended up
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we didn't stay until the club was over but we
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ended up you know leaving and the conversation
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didn't stop the conversation actually gotten
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a little a little hotter outside you know while
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we were standing there um you know by her by
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her vehicle and you know we end up kissing and
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stuff and then next thing i know i'm sitting
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on the passenger side inside in the seat and
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we are playing a little bit and uh what does
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that mean from there what does that mean we want
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the details like playing a little kissing Kissing,
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rubbing. Rubbing what? Oh, she rubbing her dick.
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She rubbing her dick. I was a gentleman. I got
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a hand on the thigh, on the inside of the thigh.
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Only the thumb is like rubbing a little bit of
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that. Only the thumb. Only the thumb is like
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rubbing a little bit. Just enough to feel that,
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like, you know, the moisture. You can start to
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feel the heat, right? of us getting turned on
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when you did it. Exactly, exactly. Just my, I
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was a gentleman, hand on the thigh. But, you
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know, and then just, only my thumb was on her
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pussy. Like, you know, just gentlemanly, like,
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fuck yeah. And I love, and I love to kiss. I
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really do love to kiss. I love a woman who loves
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to be kissed. You know, I can kiss all night,
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and next thing I know, you know, we kissing and
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kissing and kissing, and the touching got a little
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bit more, and next thing I know, I had blown
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my dick out, and, you know, she starts licking
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her neck, and she goes down. I had a button -down
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shirt, so the buttons would come open some. She
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let open them up, and next thing I know, she's
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down there sucking her dick, and I was like,
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then that's when I really got comfortable. I
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was like, okay, if she's sucking dick, I'm on.
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I'm going back to the house. That is always a
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positive move. Like, we know this. I'm going
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back to the house. Right, ladies? I'm going back
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to the house, you know? And I did go back to
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the house, and that's when we had a great time.
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We had a very, very great time. And I didn't
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know at the time, like, what my handler had,
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you know, or like what she had purchased. You
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know what I'm saying? Like if it was like a four
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hour deal or a 12 hour deal or whatever, I ended
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up, I ended up spending the night. Ended up spending
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the night at a place and I got up the next day
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and I left. When I got back in contact with my
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handler the very next day, she was like, I went
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over, you know, we went over time. I was like,
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well, hey, you didn't tell me what the fuck she
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paid for. You know what I'm saying? So, you know,
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they handled that, but I had a great time. I
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had a great time. She had a great time. And that
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was actually one of my first, like, one or two
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encounters. One or two encounters. Yeah, didn't
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you develop a system after that? It's like, okay,
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you tell me how much time I have. Like, if this
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lady has any limits. Like, is there, you know,
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an emergency call out? Like, ah, this bitch is
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crazy. She's doing some crazy shit to me. Tell
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me, like, was there any craziness? All of the
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boundaries. All of the boundaries discussed,
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you know, they discussed the boundaries first.
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You know, when you have a handler, your handler
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comes back and tells you, okay, to remind you,
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I'm new to this now. I'm a rookie. So she and
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I, handler and I, had to get our stuff together.
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You know what I mean? Because I had to tell her,
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okay, this is, at first, I couldn't help it because
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I am new. There were a couple of occasions, in
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my opinion, I may have taken one from the team.
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She wasn't exactly the most attractive woman
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in the world, but I still had to do what I had
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to do. You know what I mean? I mean, you got
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some pussy and some money, so I'm having a hard
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time, you know, feeling sorry for you, for sure.
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Yeah, but still, though, still. After that first
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year. I will do something strange for some change.
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After that first year, though, she and I had
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a long talk. Okay, you know, I'm in it now, and
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this is what I really, really am attracted to.
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And, of course, being younger at the time, I
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was attracted to older women, a certain type
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of older woman, you know, very, very stylish,
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very, very sexy, articulate, you know, the whole
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package. So I didn't just, I wasn't just. Okay,
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she's a friend of, you know, of my handler. You
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know, she wants to meet me and I'm going to do
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this. So, hell no. At first, yeah, I took one
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for the team a couple of times. I did. But for
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the most part, though, there were some very,
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very attractive ladies, very, very nice ladies.
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And you will find out very, very quickly that
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you are providing, here again, the boyfriend
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experience. A lot of the ladies, you know, want
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to go to dinner. They want to. You have to be
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a great listener. You know, they want to talk.
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And, you know, you have to adapt. You have to
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be very, very patient and learn how to adapt
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to the situation that you're in, to the client
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that you have. Makes sense. I love it. I love
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it. So you talked a lot about a handler. What
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is a handler? What made your handler, you know,
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good or bad or however you felt about her? Well,
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I told you about, you know, how we met, right?
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Right. I told you about how I met her. But what
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made her, though, so special, what made us special,
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because, I mean, we were, we played, you know,
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a lot. She and I played a lot. But she was that
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definition of that older woman that I was, you
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know, so attracted to. So when I was picking
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the women after that first year, I was looking
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at her. You know, I was looking at her. I was
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looking at the total package. She was a total
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package to me. She was a freaking total package.
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Everything. She had the look. Like I said, the
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charisma, the class. She was elegant. uh she
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could be comfortable in evening wear or she could
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go with me to the gym and sweat some damn tank
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top you know what i'm saying she was well -rounded
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she was very very well -rounded so i was looking
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for ladies like that that were going to turn
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me on um she was very very kinky you know she
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she like she had certain she had certain she
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and i had a certain kink that we played you know
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played with um that turned me on the the ability
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for us to do Any number of things, from going
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shopping to maybe taking a weekend vacation to
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just laying there looking at a movie together
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and not even have to say anything to each other,
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but just holding each other. So that's what I
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was looking at, you know, after I was in this
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for a while. She was a standard to me. Nice,
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nice. So what does a handler do? Like, what is
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their responsibility? What's their role? Okay.
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If you are here again, I was independent, but
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there was also three other guys that she also
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handled. Okay. So for us, she was the one who,
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um, she dealt with all of the communicating with
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the potential client. Um, they contacted her,
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uh, here again, she listened to what they wanted.
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She then said, well, okay, I have somebody here
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that you might, you know, that you would, I think,
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fit that, you know, fit that profile. And, of
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course, they would get together, usually have
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lunch or dinner, and she would have my profile
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with, you know, the pictures, the whole nine
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yards. They would see it. Then if they liked,
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great. If they didn't, they'd say, well, you
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know, can we see somebody else? But usually.
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like to pull them on the chain, they liked. 90
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% of the time, they liked what they saw. Then
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from there, they would sit there and talk about
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what the payment was for the bait. And afterwards,
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that was done ahead of time, before I even come
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into the picture. Then you arrange, she listens
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to what the lady would like, whether it would
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be... dinner, whether it be dancing, whether
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I was going to put on a suit or tux for some
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type of damn event, you know, or just whatever
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she wanted. And then I came into the picture,
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met her, and we went from there. You know, that
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was before we actually did the actual date itself.
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So what's the pricing structure like for something
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like this? And I know you're going to say it
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varies, but like give me a range. Like what's
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a basic date look like and how much does that
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cost and how much do you get? Okay, well, I can
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tell you what I got. I can tell you what I got.
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Here again, I was in the military, so I had to
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be very, very cautious. So for me, I had sometimes
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what they call the two -hour lunch special. Okay.
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I usually had 90 minutes for lunch, so I could
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turn that into two hours if somebody had just
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a quickie date, and you know what a quickie date
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was. That's pretty much a physical encounter.
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A physical encounter at that time, my handler
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was charging for two hours, it was like $300,
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and I got 60 % of that. Dang, I need to be a
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handler. It was 60 -40 cut. 60 -40 cut. Anything
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after that, I pretty much was doing everything
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on the weekends when I was off, or like Friday,
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Saturday, Sunday. Friday and Saturday could be
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anything from four hours, 12 hours, or a 24 -hour
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meet. Four hours would cost you around $600.
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Twelve hours, a grand, $24 ,000, $2 ,000. Not
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bad. And how many years ago was this? Yeah, this
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has been a while. I was, what, 26, 27, 28. So
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that was 1996. So I bet the rates would be about
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at least three times that much now. Oh, God,
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yes, yes. Depending probably on the man, too,
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and also, you know, what you wanted to do. I'm
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sure there was. I just picture somebody like
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me. who is in sales for a living and sitting
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down with like this brochure about, you know,
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the gentleman that you can keep company with.
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Yeah. Yeah. And all of your additions, you know,
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all the cart services. And then we charge. If
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you come more than 10 times, there's a surcharge.
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Okay. So if he's that good, it makes sense. Here
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again, sex is never mentioned in the initial
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when the handler talks to her. Sex is not mentioned.
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When you say sex for money, it turns into prostitution.
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Right. When you do not discuss sex, when you
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just talk about a date, an encounter, then that
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is perfectly legal. That's perfectly legal. I
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am being paid again for my time and my attention.
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Yeah. But, you know, is there ever a date that
26:15
you had that did not end up in that? That depends
26:19
on, that depends really on how the guy looks
26:22
and how the guy carries himself. No, no, no.
26:25
For you, for you personally. I had a lot of play
26:31
time. Did you bat a thousand? Just admit it.
26:35
It's fine. Was there ever one that you didn't?
26:37
Was there ever a date that you did not play on?
26:43
Yeah. Yeah. There were a couple. Okay. So a small
26:47
percentage. Very small. Very small percentage.
26:50
Very, very small. Especially in the beginning.
26:53
In the beginning, I had to do what I had to do
26:56
to get my name out there. And once the name got
27:00
out there, then I was able to tell my handler,
27:05
okay, I'm getting more calls now. People want
27:09
to see me, et cetera, et cetera. This is what
27:12
I'm not interested in now. Yeah. Okay? That's
27:17
like any good business, though. Once you get
27:20
full, you can start adjusting your clientele.
27:24
to the people that you actually connect with
27:26
and match with and vibe with. I always say, we
27:30
might not fit you, you might not fit us, so we
27:32
reserve the right to fire you. So, you know,
27:36
it makes sense after a while, you know, oh, I've
27:38
fired more clients than I've fired us. I'm positive.
27:42
And this way, this also introduced me to the
27:47
world of, really the world of cuckolding. You
27:51
know, I didn't know that when I would meet a
27:54
couple and I would get there and then, you know,
27:58
the husband wants to watch and I'm over there
28:02
telling him, you know, you'd never fuck your
28:03
wife like this. You can't do it. And that, you
28:07
know, the cuckling thing was going on. So that's
28:11
where I learned that. Like I said, this is a
28:14
long time ago. You didn't have all of the, you
28:16
know. The term hot wife did not exist then. The
28:20
term bull did not exist. The term cuckold did
28:23
not exist. Okay? So that, you know, the verbiage
28:27
just came about a few years ago. Some years ago.
28:31
But back long then, you didn't have it. But the
28:35
Europeans have always done it. Yep. So, okay,
28:42
so you... At what point did you kind of realize,
28:47
and I think almost that your handler taught you
28:49
this from the beginning, but at what point did
28:51
you realize that this was way more about, you
28:55
know, the experience and who you are as a person
28:59
and the ambiance and the fact that you're making
29:02
them, all these things that they're experiencing,
29:05
being involved in you, and the dick was actually
29:11
the bonus. The dick was actually the add -on.
29:14
When did you realize that? And was there like
29:17
an awakening point? I wouldn't say there was
29:24
an awakening point. Here again, it goes back
29:26
to my favorite word, evolution. With each encounter
29:30
that I had, I learned something, you know, with
29:34
each encounter. Whether it was a great encounter
29:37
or whether it was, you know, one that... you
29:40
know like i was telling siren that i might be
29:42
taking one for the team but i learned something
29:44
every every every time that i met different people
29:48
i learned something um and you know over time
29:52
um everything developed everything developed
29:57
even the even the sick even the sexual part got
30:02
better it got better and better and better um
30:05
and i was able to go from learning how to just
30:10
go from the, like I told you, you know, when
30:13
I first started, I thought a great foot was just
30:16
being a porn star. You know, you just fucking
30:18
like what you see in porn. And I quickly found
30:21
out that that hell no, that's, that's not real
30:25
world sex. That's not great sex. That is acting,
30:28
you know? And, um, so yeah, everything evolved.
30:34
everything about the communication skills um
30:36
you know the me as a person um everything involved
30:42
and then i just got better with age i got better
30:46
with age and here again i that took a year that
30:50
took a year and then i was able to like i said
30:53
tell my handler okay i'm i'm different now i'm
30:57
different so this is what you know i want this
31:00
is what i want uh these these type of ladies
31:03
or these type of couples you know attract me
31:06
um so you know let's let's make that happen instead
31:10
of just anything so evolution that word i love
31:18
it i love it and so um i think you had mentioned
31:24
or you had told me that you had several good
31:28
friends that, you know, friends to this day that
31:30
are in the game with you, right? Yeah. Yeah.
31:34
Over there? Mm -hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So talk to me
31:38
about, like, what was that like? Would you guys
31:40
compare notes? Would you guys talk about it?
31:43
Were you guys close afterwards? Were you close
31:45
during? Like, what was it like with these brothers?
31:49
No, the other guys who were, who she helped out.
31:55
right who she was family too i was i was i knew
31:59
them but i wasn't as close to them as i was like
32:03
i told you about my best friends you know who
32:05
also i got them kind of into it also um now hell
32:11
yeah we we talked about every damn thing you
32:14
know um we compared uh encounters all of the
32:19
sexual encounters of course you know we we talked
32:22
about that uh could she you know because she's
32:25
how did she suck dick you know how did she do
32:28
this did she lick ass did she do i mean the whole
32:30
nine yards just a typical talk but we also talked
32:33
about what the couples wanted and here again
32:38
it was all about the communication it was all
32:42
about you being able to adapt to what they want
32:45
um you know you you got to bring you got to bring
32:49
several types of traits man You got to bring
32:51
several types of traits to the game. And I told
32:54
you before, that's, of course, maintaining the
32:57
clear boundaries. We talked about what we would
32:59
do, what we wouldn't do. If we were put in certain
33:02
situations, will we go through with this? Will
33:05
we not go through with it? You already know about
33:09
the grooming. And like I said, being adaptable.
33:13
You know what I'm saying? The ability for you
33:15
to switch between the different types of engagements.
33:21
Always being reliable. That was one thing that
33:24
we damn talked about. If I told you that I will
33:28
be there Sunday at 1500, this time wearing this,
33:33
that, da -da -da -da -da, sitting in this spot,
33:35
waiting on you to get there, then damn it, at
33:38
255, I was there. So that was another thing that
33:40
people liked. I was always fucking reliable.
33:43
And here again, the last thing, the discretion.
33:49
What I did, now other than telling the guys,
33:52
my guys under that shit won't go anywhere. But
33:54
going back, telling anybody else, that's what
33:57
we did. It was all secretive. Only my friends
34:01
knew about the escorting. Nobody else knew about
34:03
that shit. Nobody else. And, of course, you know,
34:07
the couples, like I said, it was like doctor
34:10
privilege, confidentiality. Nice. Nice, nice,
34:15
nice. So. Did you, I imagine like on the movies
34:20
that I see or shows that about it, like, did
34:23
you ever do any homework on the, your, you know,
34:26
the, the person you were going to go out on a
34:27
date with, or did the handler do homework? Were
34:30
they sitting down? Like, I imagine you in a like,
34:33
like dimly lit restaurant, you know, like just
34:38
wine on the table and she has a dossier and it's
34:42
like, okay. This is Greta Von Schuster. And she
34:48
works here. And this is her picture. And this
34:51
is her ass. And she likes to get her, you know,
34:54
dick slapped in her face. Like, did you guys
34:56
do homework like that? I always spoke with Sylvia.
35:01
I always spoke. Damn, I said her name. Well,
35:04
I didn't say her name. But I always spoke with
35:06
my handler. I always spoke with my handler. We
35:08
sat down. And, you know, she gave me the rundown
35:11
of what. her conversation was with you know with
35:14
the lady or the couple and then she gave me the
35:18
complete rundown the complete rundown and from
35:21
there you know i would see pics um not a whole
35:25
lot of pics i never i never wanted to see you
35:28
know too many you know what i'm saying because
35:30
i love the art of seduction i wanted to like
35:34
be able to think think about you know what she
35:37
really looks like in person you know what i'm
35:39
saying if i see too many damn pictures then that's
35:42
that's a turn off for me i just need to see maybe
35:44
a couple of face and maybe one body you know
35:47
and then that's it i let my imagination do every
35:51
damn thing else you know and go from there but
35:55
yeah we talked we talked exclusively though there
35:58
was always a good you know hour maybe hour and
36:00
so chat between she and i in person uh before
36:04
i said you know okay Yeah, I'm going to take
36:06
this and go with it. That's what's up. I like
36:12
that. I like that. And, you know, I didn't know
36:16
if that was Hollywood or if that really happened,
36:18
and I think that's dope. Like, it definitely,
36:22
what I like about it is, like, when people understand
36:26
the psychological component of it, it's like
36:30
if you did that kind of homework for a girl you
36:33
wanted to ask out. a lot of times you might be
36:37
more successful, right? If you did that kind
36:40
of homework with a girl that you want to play
36:42
with, you just see her, you know, in the communities
36:45
we are, we're in a lot of groups on Telegram.
36:47
There's also groups in Kik and Discord, you know,
36:52
in this community. You know, some people just
36:57
see a woman shaking her ass and he's like, well,
36:59
I want that. And that's all the homework he needs.
37:02
And it's like, you don't need much more than
37:05
that sometimes. So pot calling the kettle black
37:09
there, sir. You're like, oh, my dick wants that
37:12
booty. Sometimes. You do all this other research,
37:17
but I'm talking about for this specific woman.
37:20
You've done all this research before that, but
37:23
not about her necessarily. And you could see
37:25
an ass shake and be like, yes. Mr. Dick, I didn't
37:29
say that's what he does. I said Socrates does
37:33
some research. I didn't hear you. Mr. Dick says
37:37
fat ass. Let's go. I was trying last night. I
37:44
was trying to pick up a lady last night at this
37:47
concert I went to with my friend. I didn't complete
37:54
it, but man, she was hot. You would have liked
37:58
her, babe. She was beautiful. I did get a picture
38:03
with her, though. At least we'll have a picture.
38:07
Okay. She's from right there in the area or what?
38:10
No, she is from far away. Oh, okay. And she was
38:13
going home. She was going home today. So I, cause
38:16
I was like, Hey, you know, what are you doing
38:19
right now? She was like, Oh, I got to go with
38:21
my friends. Cause I'm here visiting them. And
38:23
you know, so she's practicing. Yeah. Yeah. So.
38:35
I want to talk more about this. You know, I do
38:38
want to do a part two, but talk, talk to me about,
38:42
were you ever interested in the business side
38:49
of it before you came back to the States? Oh,
38:53
absolutely. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Had, had it,
38:57
had the, had the, had the incident, you know,
39:01
with the, with the help scare of my, parents
39:05
not happened there's no doubt in my mind i would
39:09
i would be a very very successful uh owner of
39:13
a male of a male escort business right now no
39:20
doubt in my mind hell yeah um over there as well
39:27
as here but over there oh my god oh my god um
39:33
With the different types of black men that there
39:39
are over there, and when I say types, I mean,
39:42
you know, the shades of black, your dark -skinned
39:45
men, the guys that are very, very fit, the guys
39:50
that fit other different, you know, smart, sapiosexual,
39:56
you know, et cetera, et cetera. Oh, hell yeah.
39:59
It would be no problem putting together. um,
40:02
at least to start off about eight to 10 good
40:07
guys. And absolutely where I was based, that
40:13
was, that was considered like, uh, almost like
40:15
a capital, you know, a capital spot where I was
40:18
at, where you had two big cities, uh, within
40:23
a six or seven minute drive of each other. Oh,
40:26
fuck. Yeah. Hell yeah. I think about it all the
40:31
time. I think about that all the fucking time.
40:35
And it can be done here. It can. It can be done
40:39
here. There is one agency here. Again, I won't
40:42
mention the name, but they are very, very successful.
40:45
The gentleman who owns it used to be an escort
40:49
himself and got the idea of starting the straight
40:53
male agency from another female. And he is extremely
41:00
successful. Extremely successful. And he has
41:04
his guys from Vegas, Florida. He has one guy
41:12
located here in Charlotte, North Carolina. I
41:14
think another in Raleigh. But he's all over the
41:18
United States. All over. And he's doing very,
41:22
very well. Very well. He's actually had a...
41:26
A TV show that was on Showtime a few years ago.
41:30
And I was a huge fan. Learned a lot. Learned
41:35
a lot. So, hell yeah. Do you guys name your agencies?
41:39
Like, what would your agency name have been?
41:42
Or do you not want to share it? Because if you
41:44
ever actually do it. I wouldn't share it right
41:50
now. I really wouldn't. Somebody would probably
41:53
take it and run with it. if they listen to the
41:55
podcast and had the same you know idea so i keep
41:58
that to myself um but believe me though if i
42:03
could i already pictured i could i can picture
42:06
right now if something like that was to start
42:08
here um just right here let's say you know on
42:13
the east coast between atlanta and say new york
42:18
and maybe we'll branch off to florida Right.
42:22
We could we could be I say we because, of course,
42:25
I would want to bring in a couple of gentlemen.
42:28
I'm speaking to one right now. It's my brother,
42:32
Socrates himself. And I know we will be successful.
42:37
We will definitely be successful. Yeah, man,
42:41
I just I love the idea. So I want to wrap it
42:46
up at this point and we're going to talk about.
42:50
On the next one, the part two, I really want
42:54
to get into the emotional and intellectual intelligence
42:57
side. But I felt like if I do that now, this
43:01
podcast would definitely be an hour and a half.
43:04
So I got 45 more questions about that. So is
43:09
there anything like, do you have any horror stories
43:12
or like amazing stories you want to end it with?
43:15
I tell you what, let's save it for part two.
43:19
because yeah i do have i do have some horror
43:22
i do have some horror i've had i've had a lot
43:25
of of great experiences i have um and different
43:29
different types of experiences also but i'll
43:33
i'll tell you more about a few horror stories
43:36
um on part two all right let's leave let's leave
43:40
the audience uh in in you know with a little
43:44
uh what you call a hangover right now You know
43:47
what I'm saying? Cliffhanger. They want more.
43:50
Yeah, cliffhanger. There you go. And so we'll
43:54
definitely talk about this again in a part two.
43:56
Looking forward to it. Siren, any final questions
44:00
or statement, anything you? Well, I definitely
44:04
think it sounds interesting and definitely a
44:10
perfect situation for especially single men.
44:14
And I'm anxious to ask some questions and have
44:19
some discussion about how married bulls would
44:22
navigate that space in the future. So part two,
44:28
I'll come up with some more thoughts. And just
44:32
to put it out there, sweetie, you would be a
44:35
hell of a client. You'd be a hell of a fucking
44:38
encounter, all right? Yeah, but I'm not paying.
44:42
I'll pay you with mine. You know what? Being
44:49
with me is payment, okay, for the men out there.
44:52
So just know something. I'm never paying for
44:55
that. I know what I bring to the table. And I
45:01
enjoy eating alone or with several guests. And
45:06
I know a lot of women who said the very same
45:08
thing. They wouldn't pay until they got bit.
45:10
All right? So don't ever say you won't pay until
45:13
you get the right goddamn dish. I wouldn't be
45:16
paying if daddy would be paying. And on that
45:20
note, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to close
45:22
this one out tonight. All right. For Siren and
45:25
my boy Socrates, this is B Morgan, a .k .a. the
45:29
Sigma Male coming at you. We will be back with
45:32
part two of this lovely episode. But until we
45:37
do. To all my bull brothers out there, I bid
45:40
you good night. And to all my hot wives, sexy
45:44
unicorns, and hell, who knows? Maybe some ladies
45:49
for the encounter one day. I bid you good morning.
45:53
This is the Signal Mail coming at you. Till we
45:56
meet again. Good night, everybody. Love y 'all.
45:59
Bye -bye.