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Mission SONlight Chatt Season 4 Ep. 29 Alain Bautista - Family Bond Builders/OCI · Mission SONlight CHATT

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  Welcome to Network 7's Mission Sunlight Chat,
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  where we are at the general conference session
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  of the Seventh -day Adventist Church, the world
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  business meeting of the church every five years
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  here in St. Louis, Missouri in the United States.
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  And specifically, we are in the exhibit hall
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  where all the ministries are working and ministering
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  and sharing and growing and talking and laughing
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  and just really being blessed by one another's
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  company, encouraged. even as they share what
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  Jesus is doing, where they are working, where
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  they live, and literally talking to the global
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  international community. Part of that global
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  international community is Outpost Centers International
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  and my friend Alain Bautista, or I'm going to
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  try and say it the way the French would say it
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  correctly, Alain Bautista. I'm not sure I'll
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  remember that, but terrible with names. I'm happy
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  to love you in the love of Christ. How about
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  that? I love you too, brother. Alon, you are...
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  a vice president in the field with your wife
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  in Outpost Centers International, and we're interested
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  in hearing about that. But first, we'd like to
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  know who you are. Tell us about your youth, your
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  young adult period, and how you got to know Jesus.
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  I'm sorry, before we do that, I want to ask you
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  to have a word of prayer before we talk about
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  anything. So will you do prayer, and then we'll
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  talk more. Sure. Father in heaven, please be
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  with us now. Anoint our lips. May you be glorified
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  in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Thank you for that
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  prayer. Now, share with us a little bit about...
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  So I was born in the Philippines. My parents
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  migrated to the United States when I was the
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  age of nine. Actually, they sent me. My mom and
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  my dad, my dad primarily was asked to go to Brunei
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  to build the palace for the king of Brunei. And
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  then there was no educational system there. So
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  they sent me to the United States and looking
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  for an identity when I was in high school. And
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  I got into a lot of trouble. I wasn't Adventist
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  then. And, you know, you were a rebel without
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  a clue. That means I got involved with the wrong
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  crowd, things like this. Now, when you say you
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  weren't an Adventist, were you a Christian at
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  all? We went to church on some Sundays, weddings,
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  you know, that kind of thing, funerals. So you
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  were a holiday Christian. Exactly. So religion
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  wasn't a major part of growing up. But I did
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  go to Catholic school and got indoctrinated with
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  a lot of Catholic theology, things like this.
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  The facts but not the faith. Correct. And when
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  I was in the United States, I got involved with
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  looking for my identity. So I got involved with
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  the Filipino gangs and all those other things
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  and spent some time in my latter years of high
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  school. I was on house arrest for a couple of
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  years and just being a rebel. Yeah. You know,
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  and then when I was 17, my wife was 16. I got
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  to meet her and she was a primary example of
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  what a godly woman was, even though at a young
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  age. So you met her in high school. Yeah. High
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  school sweethearts. Exactly. Okay. And yeah.
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  And then we moved. I moved because there was
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  some. life -threatening situations happening
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  in California. So my parents took me to Australia.
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  So they migrated to Australia at that point.
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  Spent two years there. Didn't like it very much.
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  So I went back because the love of my life was
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  in California. And when I was 21, I got baptized.
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  But before then, I'd had Bible studies. And I
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  praise the Lord today of being a Seventh -day
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  Adventist because... They were the only ones,
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  even though I knew the scriptures somewhat, they
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  were the ones who answered everything from a
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  biblical perspective. And that's what I was looking
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  for. That, you know, not somebody said it, but
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  everything was based on the Bible. And then it's
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  been a journey. We got married when I was 25.
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  We have two beautiful children. Boys, girls?
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  Two boys. Okay. Carrying on the name. Exactly.
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  And then as young families, you know, you play
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  churchianity, right? You go to church and you
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  just go and that kind of thing. Jordan, have
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  we heard that phrase before, churchianity? He
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  says no. Churchianity, we just go through the
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  motions. But there was something that really
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  clicked in us when I was, of course, I went to
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  school and so on and so forth and I worked. provided
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  for the family, thinking that was my goal in
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  life. However, one day it just clicked. I work
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  six days a week, 24 hours in a day, and just
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  one day it clicked. If the God that we serve
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  is true and real today, I need to claim what
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  the Bible says. So I said, I claimed the promises.
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  You will never go hungry. You will not... Be
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  weary. The Lord will provide for you. I just
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  started claiming these promises. And eventually
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  we moved to Wildwood, Georgia. And we've been
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  living in faith ever since. Praise the Lord.
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  You kind of sped through some time there. You
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  and your wife. Well, let me back up. You talked
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  about your youth getting into some trouble, getting
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  into some challenges. You met your wife, and
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  that began you on a journey of improvement, would
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  you say? And your parents, are they connected
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  to Christ? Do you find that they're more, are
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  they following, are they seeing what's happening
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  in your life and following that? When it comes
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  to my parents and my siblings, we don't discuss
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  religion. It's been said, politics and religion
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  we don't discuss. However, there's been significant...
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  in my father's life. So when I was in this journey,
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  I got to pastor a church out in St. Elmo, Tennessee.
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  I'm a lay pastor. There I pastored for two years.
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  And I was able to wash my dad's feet twice. And
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  that was significant. And I'm going to get emotional.
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  And a few weeks ago, my father... After 56 years,
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  he prayed for me. Wow. And that was significant
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  because he's never done that. Wow. And I believe
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  the Lord is working in his heart because in October
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  of last year, he was going to exit. He was going
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  to die. And I said, Dad, okay, I'm an elder of
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  the church. I would like to anoint you. Amen.
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  So it was just me, my mom, my wife, and I. And
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  he said, Yeah, anoint me. And he said, what does
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  that entail? I said, we'll go through James chapter
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  5, and if you believe it, you know, do it. So
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  I anointed him that day because he was already
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  giving me his last will and testimony and all
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  these things. And I said, stop, you know, we'll
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  go through this. And a week after, a week after
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  that, man, he's walking further. He's washing
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  the car. You know, a month later, he gets clear.
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  by his physician. Wow. You know, that he could
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  travel. And he said, okay, I want to go where
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  you're going to go. I said, oh, okay. I said,
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  I'm going to the Philippines. I'm going to go
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  see things. I'll give you four days, Dad. So
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  he said, okay. So he spent four days with him
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  just, you know, loving him. Yeah. Because me
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  and my dad has not had the best relationship.
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  You know, as a father and son, we had issues
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  because we have issues. We're just human. It's
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  a relationship. Exactly. They're messy. That
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  was a few weeks ago. And when you say, when you
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  ask me, is there movement in their spiritual
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  life? Praise the Lord. And I believe so. Praise
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  the Lord. He prayed. Amen. And he didn't pray
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  like a Catholic either. He prayed like... A real
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  connected to Jesus prayer. And that totally moved
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  me. I was a total mess after that. I didn't want
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  to show him, right? Because we were on our way
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  out and he was just... I was just taken aback.
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  The whole time going home, I would just cry.
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  Because I ran it through my brother. He goes,
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  I don't even know how that looks like. That was
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  my brother speaking. Anyway, it's just significant.
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  And I truly believe that the Lord is working
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  on his heart. Amen. In my heart, obviously. Praise
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  the Lord for his goodness to us. Alon, thank
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  you so much for sharing your personal story.
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  We're going to get a little bit more into that
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  because your parenting changes in your move led
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  to creating a ministry that connected you with
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  OCI. I want to hear about all of that in just
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  a moment. But first... Want to thank those who
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  with more from the General Conference Session
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  Exhibit Hall. This is Mission Sunlight Chat.
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  It means transforming a school, orphanage or
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  hospital. It means fire, rain, ice and snow.
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  Whatever it means to you, being a media missionary
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  means more than you might think. Welcome back
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  to Mission Sunlight Chat. We are in the exhibit
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  hall at the General Conference session, and we
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  are delighted to have all... kinds of exhibitors
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  who are sharing what God is doing where they
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  are. Such a blessing to be here and especially
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  to be with Alon Bautista who is a, I guess, a
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  field representative, regional vice president
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  for Outpost Centers International. We call it
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  OCI and that is outposts who are situated all
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  over the world and last I checked I think there's
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  some 400 outposts where Small and large organizations
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  are changing the kingdom world where they are.
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  Tell us a little bit about how your world was
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  changed when your boys were born. What did that
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  do to you and your family? I grew up in California,
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  and I've always said, my boys are not going to
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  grow up like me. That means the environment has
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  to change. Things that I knew, I thought I knew,
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  needed to change. And I praise the Lord for a
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  spirit of prophecy, child guidance, country living,
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  Adventist home. We really started reading that.
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  And I looked at my boys and I said, they're so
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  precious. I don't want to lose them. I don't
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  want to give them the life that the Lord would
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  not want to give them. Because if I believe the
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  Bible is true and real, if I believe spirit of
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  prophecy, I need to go with this. Not what the
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  world says, but to move forward. So I had six
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  jobs. I don't know if you know anybody with six
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  jobs in California. I was working 24 hours in
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  a day, six days a week. That was my thing. I
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  had to be the provider. Because that's what everybody,
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  every migrant parent says. You need to provide.
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  You need to have a big house, 2 .5 car, so on
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  and so forth. This is the norm for everybody.
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  My wife traveled an hour and a half each way
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  just to get to work. I was always there. Their
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  great -grandmother was the one raising them.
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  This is not right. I'm the father. I need to
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  do my part. So I needed to let go. I needed to
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  trust that. And the hardest thing to do is trust.
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  We sometimes call that the rat race. You didn't
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  want to live the rat race anymore. No, because
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  I'm no rat. Amen. And I'm not in a race. Amen.
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  Right? I'm a child of God. Right. And that's
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  what I had to claim. And it's very hard because
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  I'm very prideful. I'm Asian. Right? Those kind
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  of things are very difficult because the whole
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  life you were told this. You had to be this and
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  that. That didn't go with the picture that the
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  Lord portrayed in Adventist home, country living.
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  I needed to be the priest of my household. I
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  needed to take care of my children. So we took
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  a journey. We sold our house. It's a whole new
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  different testimony. However, the Lord moved
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  us where we went to Wildwood. I got trained as
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  a medical missionary. And the Lord just orchestrated
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  so many things that we knew by faith it was the
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  Lord's dealing. We have many trials along the
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  way, many lessons along the way. But one thing
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  for sure, as I see my boys now, the Lord was
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  with us the whole way. Amen. And they all have
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  their own spiritual walk with the Lord. I can
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  tell you about trials. I'm in the school of Christ.
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  Our house burned down in 2006. We lost everything.
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  Wow. But the Lord showed us one thing. It's all
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  going to burn anyway. Do not get attached to
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  this world. No. 2008, somebody broke into our
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  house. The Lord was teaching us another thing.
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  Do not put your treasures where thieves can go.
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  2009, I got really sick. The life that you have
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  is not yours. There will be an accountability
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  in the end. That's right. And then the latest
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  one we went through was my son had stage four
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  nasopharyngeal carcinoma, metastasized to his
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  back. Wow. However, the Lord got him through
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  it. And I can tell you miracles upon miracles.
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  But God is good. Amen. And he has sustained us.
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  And I praise the Lord for that. And if you would
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  have told me 25 years ago that I would be sitting
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  here across from Christopher here right now,
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  I would have said you're crazy. Because this
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  is all God's orchestration. And he is so good
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  to us. Amen, Alon. Thank you for sharing that.
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  Yeah. So. From that early start of a really messy
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  life to figuring out, fixing, if you will, with
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  God's grace, a messy parenting life. You're now
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  a field vice president for Outpost Centers International.
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  What do you do at Outpost? And how does that
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  fulfill your gospel commission? One thing I love
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  about OCI is helping people. Helping people with
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  ministries so they can see that it is not just
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  them. There's a whole wide world out there that
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  is crazy, as crazy as them. Because sometimes
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  you feel so alone and then you feel discouraged.
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  So one thing that I do do... That we, me and
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  my wife, as we go there, we encourage you. We
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  show you direction. We strategize with you. So
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  we do a mission and vision statement. And then
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  we strategize, strategically plan one year, five
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  years to see how you can grow. And then we do
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  KPIs, indexes where we're hitting our goals,
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  things like this. Because what I want them to
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  see is the direction that the Lord would want
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  them to go, not confirmation. Because sometimes
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  we're just in the business of, okay, Lord, this
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  is my plan. Stamp it. Confirm it. But I want
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  them to see that this is the direction, Lord,
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  that we want to go because you are the one orchestrating
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  this. And somehow there's totally difference.
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  Because sometimes we have these preconceived
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  ideas of where we want to go. But is that the
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  direction? And sometimes we have to say, you're
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  in the wrong ministry. Or you're in this. You
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  need to be more focused in this. Not really your
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  niche, even though you're here. So just giving
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  them a sense of direction and sense of purpose.
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  But with that, you can help people find their
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  niche. It's not just that it's a critical thing,
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  criticism thing, but it's critical that they
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  be in the right place. And with your vantage
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  point, not only in the ministries that you serve
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  as a field vice president, but also in the network
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  of other OCI leaders that you're connecting with,
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  you can then... help put someone where they might
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  be able to. God has a plan. He has a work for
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  all of us to do. So that you're confident of,
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  it's just a matter of maybe helping someone find
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  that proper place. Yeah, to help them minimize
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  the possibility of errors by trial and error.
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  Yeah, that's right. So what we do is, okay. You
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  want a lifestyle center, for example. Can I hook
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  you up with somebody with a blueprint or how
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  they run it? Maybe you can learn from them. So
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  it's a matter of that kind of networking. You
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  know, it's interesting you say that because I
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  interviewed someone yesterday, actually a young
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  couple, who both of them are engineers. One's
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  a civil engineer, one's a... mechanical engineer
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  and so in their work as engineers they offer
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  that service to ministries like oci ministries
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  of the oci brand and so what you're just saying
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  is having that network having being able to pull
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  those together and that's really why an organization
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  like oci and the sister organization of oci asi
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  that's why they exist is for that network to
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  be available Yes, can you know people in those
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  entities without being a member? Right, you can.
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  But being a member keeps you in contact. It keeps
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  that network solid and fluid. That's why we have
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  field vice presidents who specifically know the
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  things that are in the region. Because if we
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  know, because some things work in other countries
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  and some things don't work in other countries.
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  Let me just pause here and point out to our listeners
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  and viewers, we are in the exhibit hall where
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  there's a lot of ministries that are networking
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  and connecting and you can kind of hear that
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  music playing in the background every now and
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  then or somebody excited to see a friend or whatever
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  you might be hearing in the background. That's
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  in the background here, but that's really what
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  ministry is about. When we think of OCI and ASI,
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  what do they exist for? Christ. So we're really
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  in a network for Christ wherever we are. We have
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  a responsibility to put our arm around our brother,
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  come alongside, and encourage. I think the Bible
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  uses the word exhort one another. So you're doing
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  that as a field vice president. Yes. What's your
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  favorite part about serving in that way? I get
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  to meet all kinds of people from all who have
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  the desire to serve the Lord. And I believe everybody
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  has that desire. However, how to find direction
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  in that is where the people need help. And you
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  mentioned your father. You're traveling. You
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  get to see a lot of cultures. Yes, I do. So my
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  whole area is... I'm sorry, you mentioned your
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  father going with you. So that was an opportunity
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  for him to see other culture too. That's why
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  I was thinking... Well, he... He lives in Australia,
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  so he gets to listen in and stuff, and he's always
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  saying, hey, take me here, take me there whenever
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  I'm around. So I do bring him. He has a lot of
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  questions, so we have our time in the car, you
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  know, that kind of thing. And I think he never
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  really knew what I did until he started traveling
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  with me and started listening to some of our
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  YouTube channels. these lectures that we have.
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  And this last one, we just did a whole stint
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  in Australia. And he was like, oh, I didn't know
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  you did these family ministries and so on and
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  so forth. So he's learning. And his eye -opening
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  is helping you see things probably from a different
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  perspective too. Well, he's just at a different
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  phase in his life. You know, he's older. He's
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  got grandkids. He's 80 -something. So he's looking
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  at it like this is... And we do a lot of family
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  kind of ministry kind of talks. So he's like,
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  oh, I didn't do that when I was parenting you.
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  Oh, I, you know, because everything's a family
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  -based, biblical -based kind of ministry. So
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  he doesn't fully understand, but he's starting
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  to understand, which is a big thing. We're still
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  in the school of Christ. Amen. What a blessing
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  to work with family. What a blessing to make
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  people in ministry your family. Yeah. We're going
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  to come back in a moment with a closing thought
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  from Alon Bautista and hear more maybe about
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  the ministry that he is directly involved with
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  under the OCI umbrella. We'll be doing that again
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  in a moment. Just a reminder, we're here in the
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  Welcome back to Mission Sunlight Chat. We are
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  in the exhibit hall of the General Conference
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  Session, and we are blessed by many of the ministries
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  that are around us who are sharing what Jesus
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  is doing around the world. One of those ministry
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  leaders is Alon Bautista. Alon, you are in Wildwood,
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  Georgia, but your ministry is very Wildwood,
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  Georgia, in the United States, not the country.
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  But you are very international. You could easily
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  be in Georgia, the country, because your work
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  is taking you around the globe, particularly
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  in Southern Asia and the Southern Pacific. When
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  you work with OCI, you have ministry coaching
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  that you do. When you work with this other ministry,
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  you are changing your coaching families. You're
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  changing their whole worldview about how parenting
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  should be. Tell us about Family Bond Builders.
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  Well, we've been counseling families for the
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  past 20 years, just on the side. We've done Philippine
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  Youth for Christ. We've done Indonesian Youth
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  for Christ. We've done counseling. We've done
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  family seminars. And this year, me and my wife
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  said, you know, it's really important that we
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  address the families because Satan... is attacking
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  the families because he's he knows the time is
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  short so within the ministries we have issues
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  because sometimes we have we hide behind the
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  ministries to avoid issues in our families and
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  it's important that well we realize that we needed
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  to move forward with this so this year we've
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  gone 100 we used to we used we have our own business
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  we not doing that anymore we're just doing family
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  bond builders because The goal of Family Bond
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  Builders is to go anywhere in the world without
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  the church putting up the cost for us to travel.
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  However, just feed us and house us. That's the
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  only thing we ask. So we see that there is a
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  definite need for families because Satan is attacking
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  the family. And there's people that are kids
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  that are not wanting to go to the church anymore
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  because... Let me tell you a quick story. A gentleman
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  came up to me who's got a powerful ministry,
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  came up and said, Brother, I've failed. I said,
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  What do you mean? It's because you have run a
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  very powerful ministry. He said, I have six children.
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  None of them are in the church or are even Christians
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  today. Wow. And that just totally shocked me.
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  He was in tears, and I was in tears. And then
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  there's just a need that we see that we need
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  to talk about. how to be an extraordinary family,
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  going back to Scripture, going back to why we
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  think a certain way, how the generations have
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  changed, and how this is called epigenesis. It's
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  embedded in us. There's issues that we have there,
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  and we take it to the next generation, and we
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  need to learn how to stop it. So that's how it
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  evolved, and the Lord has blessed us. We've done
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  family camps. different church ministries, so
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  on and so forth. So you talk about things from
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  an academic sort of perspective. How do you make
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  that family bond practical? So we take the Bible.
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  I'll give you an example. Abraham had issues.
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  The next one is Jacob, right? Abraham, Isaac,
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  and Jacob? Yeah, Isaac, right? And then... With
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  Isaac, they had issues also, favoritism. And
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  then the next generation, Jacob and Esau, right?
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  There was jealousy among the siblings, right?
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  And then we end up with Joseph, right? Yes. And
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  then until there was forgiveness in Joseph, that
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  those generations had issues. And it got worse
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  and worse and worse. So practically, me and my
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  wife, we talk about those biblical examples and
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  how... When forgiveness comes and when true repentance
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  comes, you can break that generation and be an
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  extraordinary family. So we take Bible examples
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  and then... make it into practical, and we see
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  ourselves in that. And let me tell you, the Lord
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  has been moving, there's been many tears, and
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  people don't understand why they get mad in certain
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  ways, because of the baggages, why they yell
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  at their kids, why, you know, there's a chapter
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  in mind, character, and personality, how heredity
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  affects the future generations. Right. It's an
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  interesting subject, because some of us, like
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  me, are adopted. How much is the environment
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  impacting? I know you see environmental from
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  being raised a certain way, but you also do have
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  that genetic propensity. So, Alon, thank you
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  for sharing about your ministries. How can people
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  connect if they want to learn more about family
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  bond builders? We have a website called familybondbuilders
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  .com. Okay. And we have some YouTube stuff that
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  we have when you Google our name, Alain and Irene
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  Bautista. And we're just trying to put things.
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  We're not that technically savvy, but we're trying.
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  We have people that are helping us put things
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  together. Very good. So familybondbuilders .com.
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  Making an announcement overhead. I want to make
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  sure people get that. They can find it in the
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  bio also, familybondbuilders .com. We'll put
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  a line in the bio with the information about
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  your ministry. as well. Thank you for joining
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  us today. Jordan, if you don't mind, as we hope
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  this announcement winds down, there we go, let's
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  have a word of prayer as we conclude our program
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  today. Yeah, let's pray. Generally, Father, we
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  thank you for everything that you do for us.
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  We thank you how you direct our families and
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  direct us in ministry. Maybe even find a place
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  where you want us involved in ministry and direct
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  us to take that up, put it on our hearts. I pray
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  that as we finish this episode that Those who
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  are listening will be thinking and will open
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  their heart to your leading and where they should
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  be involved and how maybe they should be looking
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  towards their own family and seeing how they
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  need to adjust what they've been doing to involve
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  their family or to be guiding their family back
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  to you. Thank you for the way you lead us and
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  the way you direct us. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank
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