Latest / Wake Up with Miya / Episode 201. Dragons, Fairies & the Supernatural World │ Jessie Czebotar
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll see the images, you know, like there's
- 0:05Speaker 1: been people of question about the Taco bell imagery that
- 0:09Speaker 1: Taco Bell uses. Is it really a dragon's eye? But
- 0:14Speaker 1: when we understand what it really represents, it is a
- 0:18Speaker 1: DRAGONSI and that same symbol is used on very specific
- 0:23Speaker 1: type books, which are known as the Book of Shadows.
- 0:29Speaker 1: You would have ancient witches and warlocks. They would make
- 0:34Speaker 1: their own spell books, the Book of Shadows being one
- 0:38Speaker 1: that they would hand craft, and you still have that today.
- 0:44Speaker 1: My former teacher Lorie Cabot Kenton Neil called she's one
- 0:49Speaker 1: who makes those type of books, and she will literally
- 0:53Speaker 1: embed a seal of a dragon's eye on her homemade
- 1:00Speaker 1: Bocus shadows and it will look very similar to that
- 1:03Speaker 1: one you see with the Taco Bell.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I just got done having this amazing conversation with Jesse Subboda.
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- 1:51Speaker 2: conversations here as well. Helloha, and welcome to another show.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Jesse's in the house. In this conversation, we are exploring dragons, fairies,
- 2:03Speaker 2: familiar spirits and are these simply myths and legends or
- 2:10Speaker 2: could there be something deeper. You'll have to stick around
- 2:14Speaker 2: to find out. But I really did enjoy talking to
- 2:18Speaker 2: Jesse on these topics, and I hope you will too.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Now let's bring Jesse into this conversation. Enjoy the show. Aloha, Jesse,
- 2:28Speaker 2: and welcome back to this show. It's always great to
- 2:31Speaker 2: have you here. Our last conversation generated so much interest,
- 2:35Speaker 2: and I continue to receive messages from listeners asking when
- 2:40Speaker 2: will you come back. I think that's a real testament
- 2:45Speaker 2: to the work that you're doing, and the willingness, yeah,
- 2:48Speaker 2: for sure, and the willingness for you to talk about
- 2:52Speaker 2: all of these things and topics and subjects that most
- 2:55Speaker 2: people simply don't want to touch. So it's always a
- 2:59Speaker 2: pleasure to have here. But before we jump into today's topic,
- 3:03Speaker 2: please catch us up a little. I know you're always
- 3:06Speaker 2: busy with your ministry, your workshops that is coming up,
- 3:10Speaker 2: and helping people through your own experience and everything you've
- 3:13Speaker 2: learned over the years. So I know you're very busy.
- 3:18Speaker 2: But for anyone who may not know what you do,
- 3:22Speaker 2: please tell us where we can find you or attend
- 3:24Speaker 2: one of your workshops.
- 3:26Speaker 1: You Yeah, I've got some dynamic things that are available
- 3:30Speaker 1: right now and some coming up. I encourage you to
- 3:33Speaker 1: visit my YouTube channel, Theesse suboter for six one nine
- 3:38Speaker 1: on there and you'll see the background. I did a
- 3:41Speaker 1: disclosure day d CODE and get into Steven Spielberg's new
- 3:46Speaker 1: movie that was released and begin to talk about the
- 3:50Speaker 1: rumors that went with that movie. Is there classified intelligence
- 3:55Speaker 1: in it, either from the DoD the Pentagon. Is it
- 3:59Speaker 1: meant to challenge the existence of God and our faith
- 4:05Speaker 1: and our belief? Is it something that could trigger individuals
- 4:09Speaker 1: who think they may be programmed or have issues with
- 4:14Speaker 1: MK ultra? So I address those rumors in that I
- 4:17Speaker 1: encourage you to see that, and then on my website,
- 4:22Speaker 1: The Kingdom Living with Jesse, I have the Disney decodes
- 4:25Speaker 1: up there that I did this past month, where I
- 4:29Speaker 1: get into Walt Disney his funding of elementary schools and
- 4:33Speaker 1: the connection with the military. I also get into Disney World, Disneyland,
- 4:39Speaker 1: and Disney Japan and get into their logos, the areas
- 4:44Speaker 1: and teach you how to you know when you have
- 4:47Speaker 1: tourists things like Disney in your area, how can you
- 4:51Speaker 1: know if it's connected to Brotherhood or not and what
- 4:54Speaker 1: may be going on there. So I'm beginning to get
- 4:58Speaker 1: into that and coming up this next month July thirtieth
- 5:03Speaker 1: and thirty. First, I have two decodes. I'm going to
- 5:06Speaker 1: start to teach how to decode the universities, their architecture,
- 5:11Speaker 1: the buildings, the area, and then I'm going to also
- 5:14Speaker 1: get into decoding islands. So I know that a lot
- 5:18Speaker 1: of people will be interested in those things. So I
- 5:23Speaker 1: encourage you to visit that, and then you can also
- 5:25Speaker 1: find and support me on Patreon dot com.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, I'm excited about today's conversation. I don't think
- 5:34Speaker 2: we've ever touched this one. We're no I usually talked
- 5:39Speaker 2: with talk about this topic with Gary Harry Wayne, So
- 5:43Speaker 2: I'm really excited to get into this one with you.
- 5:47Speaker 2: So today I'd like to talk about I guess what
- 5:49Speaker 2: fascinated people for centuries. Dragons and fairies and other mythical
- 5:54Speaker 2: creatures that appear in cultures all around the world. Yet
- 5:58Speaker 2: most people dismiss them as nothing more than just folklore.
- 6:02Speaker 2: But do you think there's they're just legends or could
- 6:07Speaker 2: there be more truths behind those stories?
- 6:12Speaker 1: My opinion and experience is that there is truth behind
- 6:17Speaker 1: these things. This is something in the occult world that
- 6:22Speaker 1: is highly we'll say highly treasured to the point you
- 6:28Speaker 1: have underground, which is markets, black markets where there's a buying,
- 6:33Speaker 1: a selling, and a trading of what we could classify
- 6:37Speaker 1: the system's pieces or all things fantastical.
- 6:44Speaker 2: What do you mean by that.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Well, things that we would think, you know, are are
- 6:51Speaker 1: fantastical or mythical things that maybe once existed or maybe
- 6:57Speaker 1: they're completely made up through imagination. And you know, those
- 7:02Speaker 1: are things that within the system they're going to not
- 7:07Speaker 1: only possess or have or teach in different forms of witchcraft.
- 7:15Speaker 1: And we'll get into in this, you know, kind of
- 7:17Speaker 1: how the system uses these creatures. But they're also going
- 7:22Speaker 1: to be buying, selling, and trading these creatures. And you know,
- 7:28Speaker 1: it fits under the category of all things fantastical because
- 7:33Speaker 1: at some level it's unbelievable. You know, we can't fathom
- 7:38Speaker 1: because we can't directly see or you know, the majority
- 7:43Speaker 1: of us have never had an actual experience, tangible where
- 7:49Speaker 1: we've laid eyes on some of these things. You know,
- 7:52Speaker 1: we sometimes we'll see pictures that people make, but things
- 7:57Speaker 1: are so far off or they're so blurry, or you're like, yeah,
- 8:00Speaker 1: that can't be real, right, So it's hard for us
- 8:03Speaker 1: to fathom the reality of familiars or creatures. But you know,
- 8:12Speaker 1: this goes back to ancient times in sorcery, in forms
- 8:18Speaker 1: of divination, in witchcraft, you will get both, you know, wizards,
- 8:26Speaker 1: which is you get higher level individual sorceresses, priestesses. It's
- 8:34Speaker 1: common where they can take a familiar and what is
- 8:39Speaker 1: a familiar familiar is a creature that they're going to
- 8:44Speaker 1: align with that creature they're going to use in magic
- 8:51Speaker 1: in some form or fashion. You'll get some creatures that
- 8:55Speaker 1: are used for their sight. Others may be used for
- 9:00Speaker 1: their speed or their hearing, so you know, they could
- 9:05Speaker 1: use them for protection Some they will just use as companions.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Some they will choose for their gathering abilities. So some
- 9:15Speaker 1: of your older witches that make unique type of potions
- 9:21Speaker 1: or tinctures, they're gonna align themselves with creatures that have
- 9:26Speaker 1: that gathering capacity where they can find certain things that
- 9:31Speaker 1: those witches are looking for for making those tinctures and potions.
- 9:38Speaker 1: They can use these creatures in witchcraft battles. You know,
- 9:44Speaker 1: it's a highly competitive world where they're you know, competing
- 9:49Speaker 1: for power, for authority, for territory, for jurisdiction, and they
- 9:56Speaker 1: can use those creatures in the battles, both with those
- 10:03Speaker 1: that maybe in witchcraft or with others. They can use
- 10:07Speaker 1: creatures to taunt or torment people, such as sending forms
- 10:12Speaker 1: of pestilence, which the creatures that they'll sometimes use for
- 10:17Speaker 1: that would be like bats or mice, rodents of some sort,
- 10:22Speaker 1: where they'll send them in mass hordes onto somebody's property
- 10:28Speaker 1: to torment and afflict those individuals. You know, it can
- 10:34Speaker 1: be things like creatures, spiders, maggots, things like that or
- 10:40Speaker 1: things that they can send. And I'll share I actually
- 10:44Speaker 1: have experienced that in spiritual warfare. One day, my son
- 10:50Speaker 1: was heading out for work and he literally like opened
- 10:53Speaker 1: the door and stepped out on our porch and he
- 10:57Speaker 1: came back in and he was like, Mom, you need
- 11:01Speaker 1: to come here. And I was like what He's like,
- 11:04Speaker 1: just walk outside and it was like what And I
- 11:08Speaker 1: walk outside and literally like pouring over my garage, my
- 11:15Speaker 1: entire like walkway all the way down to my driveway,
- 11:21Speaker 1: like it was you know, massive amounts, but it was
- 11:25Speaker 1: almost like this wave of maggot were everywhere, like pouring
- 11:30Speaker 1: over my garage, and it was like, what in the world.
- 11:35Speaker 1: And I just said, I said, the Lord rebuke you.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I command you to go now in Jesus' name, and
- 11:43Speaker 1: not even like two minutes later, there was not even
- 11:46Speaker 1: a sign that there had ever been any And it
- 11:50Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that was witchcraft, Like what in the world.
- 11:55Speaker 1: But they can do things like that. They can use
- 11:59Speaker 1: for milliars. Like sometimes like if you're in abandoned areas
- 12:04Speaker 1: or wooded areas that they use for rituals, you'll have
- 12:08Speaker 1: the witches will use vines or twigs and they'll make
- 12:12Speaker 1: like these circular portal type things. They can use them
- 12:16Speaker 1: as doorways. But if you see things like that somewhere,
- 12:21Speaker 1: usually they'll be a creature that they connect to it
- 12:25Speaker 1: that will be a guardian for that door, whether that's snakes,
- 12:30Speaker 1: whether that's a frog, toads. They can even use like
- 12:35Speaker 1: in Casper, Wyoming, they have a meadow that they use
- 12:40Speaker 1: up on the mountain and if you're in that area
- 12:43Speaker 1: and you go to walk out from the woods into
- 12:46Speaker 1: that meadow, all of a sudden, there's I just call
- 12:48Speaker 1: these little like like snap bugs, but they make like
- 12:53Speaker 1: they're like a form of grasshopper, but when they jump,
- 12:57Speaker 1: their wings will make this like pop in snap, So
- 13:01Speaker 1: you'll have all of a sudden, these popping snap grasshoppers
- 13:05Speaker 1: coming at you and it's like pop pop, and they'll
- 13:11Speaker 1: do that to try to detour people from going into
- 13:15Speaker 1: those areas. So those are some of the ways that
- 13:20Speaker 1: they can use them, and you know, it gets deeper.
- 13:26Speaker 1: They can use these creatures as companions. They also can
- 13:34Speaker 1: use the creatures in shape shifting and you will get
- 13:38Speaker 1: very skilled wizards and sorceresses that will choose certain animals.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Some of the history, like you see images of Morgana
- 13:52Speaker 1: who has the hawk. She was a common sorceress that
- 13:57Speaker 1: was highly known more in like the UK areas. You
- 14:03Speaker 1: know Germanic Ireland. You'll get a lot of them using
- 14:07Speaker 1: her name and carrying that forward. They would use you know,
- 14:14Speaker 1: birds of prey, whether owls, hawks, for spying, they can
- 14:21Speaker 1: use them for listening in sometimes you'll see birds like
- 14:25Speaker 1: ravens where they're using those. I've had that where it
- 14:31Speaker 1: was actually kind of humorous, but it was specifically five
- 14:34Speaker 1: crows and they would come and sit in my yard.
- 14:39Speaker 1: But they weren't you know, It's like they're not birds.
- 14:42Speaker 1: They there was nothing natural about them. And I rebuked
- 14:48Speaker 1: them and commanded them to leave and remove their permissions
- 14:52Speaker 1: to be in the area. Well, so then they flew
- 14:54Speaker 1: right across and they hung out at my neighbor's yard
- 14:58Speaker 1: and I was like, no, you must go. So then
- 15:01Speaker 1: they went and stayed down at the lower area where
- 15:03Speaker 1: this street ended, and I was like, no, get out
- 15:06Speaker 1: of the area. And finally they left. The next day.
- 15:10Speaker 1: After they left, I can't I was driving into my
- 15:13Speaker 1: area and sitting right in the middle of the road
- 15:16Speaker 1: is five vultures. Five and I was like, we've never
- 15:22Speaker 1: had vultures, Like what in the world. I was like,
- 15:25Speaker 1: the Lord, rebuke you get out of here. You're not
- 15:28Speaker 1: gonna taunt to me. But it's like that. You'll get
- 15:32Speaker 1: weird things like that where you're like, okay, this is
- 15:35Speaker 1: not just random creatures. This is something more because what
- 15:41Speaker 1: are the chances that five crows are going to leave
- 15:44Speaker 1: and next day there's five vultures, So they can do
- 15:50Speaker 1: you know, you can get where witches warlocks can transform
- 15:54Speaker 1: into creatures. That's an old form of magic, and a
- 15:57Speaker 1: lot of your fairy tales, your myths, your folklores will
- 16:03Speaker 1: pull that concept of you know, witches and warlocks being
- 16:08Speaker 1: able to shape shift into animal creatures. You'll get things
- 16:15Speaker 1: like cats or types of lions that like cougars, things
- 16:21Speaker 1: like that. So there's all sorts of different things that
- 16:26Speaker 1: kind of revolve around the use of familiars within witchcraft
- 16:32Speaker 1: and it, as you see, it can be for so
- 16:35Speaker 1: many different things.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Are these people that are doing magic that have familiars?
- 16:44Speaker 2: Are they witches or are they normal people like I
- 16:46Speaker 2: don't know, you and me that are just dabbling or
- 16:51Speaker 2: these people like you know.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a you know, it's a form of
- 16:55Speaker 1: magic with it is a demonic opponent. You know, magic
- 17:02Speaker 1: in itself is you know, they're going to push in
- 17:08Speaker 1: it as they're training other people that it's it's a formula,
- 17:12Speaker 1: it's something that you learn as you say certain words
- 17:16Speaker 1: or do certain things, that's going to be the outcome.
- 17:22Speaker 1: But truly behind it is the spiritual component. You have
- 17:27Speaker 1: a connection with the demonic entity, that demonic entity giving
- 17:32Speaker 1: them the ability to transform, you know, into something else.
- 17:42Speaker 1: And it really is a harsh thing on the body.
- 17:45Speaker 1: You know, an individual that I knew who was in
- 17:50Speaker 1: the system, who was a wolf, you know, I asked
- 17:55Speaker 1: him the one time. I said, you know, it is
- 17:59Speaker 1: that attachment with the spirit is it kind of like
- 18:03Speaker 1: it kind of puts out this psychic delusion where people
- 18:09Speaker 1: that look at you see you in one way, but
- 18:13Speaker 1: you're still just yourself, like in on your experience, you know,
- 18:18Speaker 1: you're just a man, but people see you as something else.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Or does it really physically morphine change your body? And
- 18:29Speaker 1: he said no, it really physically impacts the body. And
- 18:34Speaker 1: he said watch. You know, he's like people that have
- 18:38Speaker 1: that spiritual attachment. You know, there's a limit to what
- 18:43Speaker 1: the body can take. And he said, you know, your wolves,
- 18:47Speaker 1: your vampires, any form of shape shifting, they'll end up
- 18:51Speaker 1: getting the deep soft tissue like your labor om's your
- 18:56Speaker 1: rotator cuffs your tendons and ligamin and he said they
- 19:01Speaker 1: lose their elasticity and the stress on the body is
- 19:05Speaker 1: so much that a lot of them end up with
- 19:08Speaker 1: massive tissue damage at that deeper level, which is why
- 19:13Speaker 1: it can only happen so often. And you know, there's
- 19:19Speaker 1: been some diseases long term things like I think it's
- 19:24Speaker 1: like marph I want to call it, like Marfhar syndrome
- 19:28Speaker 1: or something. I forget the full name for it. But
- 19:31Speaker 1: it's like you have some people where it's like all
- 19:34Speaker 1: of a sudden, they have the super long, long droopy
- 19:38Speaker 1: arms or long droopy legs, and that's because those tendons
- 19:42Speaker 1: have lost their elasticity, so there can be major complications
- 19:48Speaker 1: for them every time that they they shape shift.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Wow, that is really crazy. And for you when you
- 20:01Speaker 2: saw the maggots and the birds, these are other witches
- 20:04Speaker 2: that are attacking you or other Yeah. Yeah, why they
- 20:09Speaker 2: don't want you to be talking and saying what you're saying.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Yeah that was true.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah they don't. They're they're saying like you're saying
- 20:17Speaker 2: too much probably and you got to stop. There is
- 20:20Speaker 2: a threat.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll use they'll use the covens in the areas
- 20:26Speaker 1: to cause different forms of affliction and torment, you know,
- 20:31Speaker 1: as a kind of you know, as that is that
- 20:34Speaker 1: threat saying hey, I don't like what you're doing. Here's
- 20:38Speaker 1: your warning, and then it will intensify. And it did.
- 20:43Speaker 1: You know, it got to the point where they were
- 20:45Speaker 1: leaving dead animals at my doorstep and come on, came
- 20:49Speaker 1: into my garage and left a dead animal at the
- 20:52Speaker 1: back door. And you know, we're making it obvious that
- 20:56Speaker 1: they were going to continue to do it they were
- 21:00Speaker 1: doing and to continue to threaten.
- 21:04Speaker 2: That's pretty sick. That really is. Do you believe dragons
- 21:10Speaker 2: once physically existed?
- 21:13Speaker 1: I do, and I think that there's a lot of
- 21:16Speaker 1: evidence for that. You still even see stuff today. So
- 21:21Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of give that perspective. That's kind
- 21:24Speaker 1: of unique. This is one of the ways you can know,
- 21:28Speaker 1: like the real witchcraft stores. I talk about in some
- 21:34Speaker 1: of my anointing classes where I was teaching, you know,
- 21:39Speaker 1: on anointing, going in you know, praying over your areas
- 21:45Speaker 1: that you know, that's one of the things that you
- 21:47Speaker 1: can look for, is are there witchcraft paraphernalia stores in
- 21:53Speaker 1: your area? If there are, you know, that they're going
- 21:57Speaker 1: to be engaging in rituals in area because you'll have
- 22:02Speaker 1: a rich you know, somebody who will supply things needed
- 22:05Speaker 1: for the rituals. And if you go into a store
- 22:10Speaker 1: and it's more psychic type things, you know, then it's
- 22:16Speaker 1: probably not a supplier. But if you go in there
- 22:18Speaker 1: and there's daggers, there's unicornteers, there's dragons blood, then you know,
- 22:26Speaker 1: you're like, wow, okay, this could be one of the
- 22:28Speaker 1: big suppliers in the area. So that's something you know,
- 22:32Speaker 1: you have to people when they see that, they're like,
- 22:37Speaker 1: what are the unicornteers? Are they real? Are they something else?
- 22:44Speaker 1: Just called that? The same with the dragon's blood, you know,
- 22:48Speaker 1: is there really dragons blood that's gathered well in the
- 22:52Speaker 1: underground markets. Not only do they use the blood of dragons,
- 22:58Speaker 1: but they also what's highly prized are the scales, which
- 23:03Speaker 1: their scales are a lot are similar in a way
- 23:07Speaker 1: to armadillo scales, where it's made out of the same
- 23:13Speaker 1: material as your fingernails, and you have like an overlapping
- 23:18Speaker 1: and that's what makes it so strong, is that you
- 23:21Speaker 1: get all this nail like material that's overlapping. But they
- 23:26Speaker 1: collect those scales, and they will make forms of armor
- 23:32Speaker 1: that they can use in their witches battles, and they'll
- 23:36Speaker 1: make different things with it. Those are things that are
- 23:40Speaker 1: harder to get. You also have certain areas or territories
- 23:45Speaker 1: that will be marked many of your ancient family lines.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Within the system, you have the fourteen main bloodlines, but
- 23:57Speaker 1: within that, you also have specific family lines that are
- 24:02Speaker 1: known as dragons, and they have a color that goes
- 24:06Speaker 1: with them, like you have the right white dragons, the
- 24:09Speaker 1: green dragons, the blue dragon family. And it's not that
- 24:13Speaker 1: they shapeshift or turn into dragons, but they're considered keepers, watchers,
- 24:20Speaker 1: those that are in charge of the contracts with those creatures,
- 24:25Speaker 1: in charge of ensuring that those creatures continue to exist,
- 24:30Speaker 1: and they get into I guess what we would call
- 24:34Speaker 1: kind of your fantastical or exotic creature breeding, where they're
- 24:41Speaker 1: going to ensure certain things continue to exist, feeding them
- 24:47Speaker 1: things like that. And sometimes you'll see the images, you know,
- 24:53Speaker 1: like there's been people of questioned about the taco bell.
- 24:57Speaker 1: You know, what is the imagery the taco bell uses?
- 25:01Speaker 1: Is it really a dragon's eye? But when we understand
- 25:05Speaker 1: what it really represents, you know, it is a dragon's eye,
- 25:11Speaker 1: and that same symbol is used on very specific type books,
- 25:16Speaker 1: which are known as the Book of Shadows. You would
- 25:21Speaker 1: have ancient witches and warlocks. They would make their own
- 25:26Speaker 1: spell books, the Book of Shadows being one that they
- 25:30Speaker 1: would hand craft, and you still have that today. My
- 25:36Speaker 1: former teacher, Lori Kebot Kenton the Olcult, she's one who
- 25:41Speaker 1: makes those type of books, and she will literally embed
- 25:47Speaker 1: a seal of a dragon's eye on her homemade Book
- 25:52Speaker 1: of Shadows and it will look very similar to that
- 25:56Speaker 1: one you see with the taco bell.
- 25:58Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. I've never noticed that.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yeah, are you able to post? They share the picture?
- 26:06Speaker 2: I know, I don't know how to do that on here.
- 26:10Speaker 2: I'm looking at it through my iPad and I can
- 26:13Speaker 2: see it and I'm like, what the heck is that,
- 26:15Speaker 2: I've never noticed that I have to put it on.
- 26:19Speaker 1: So you'll sometimes see that also in city symbols, where
- 26:23Speaker 1: the way that they use like the hill or the
- 26:26Speaker 1: little trees, if you look at it a certain way
- 26:30Speaker 1: or the bells, it will look like a dragon's eye.
- 26:34Speaker 1: And that's to inform people coming into that territory that
- 26:38Speaker 1: there's a keeper and that keeper has contracts with the dragons.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, I swear you never surprised me. I'm like
- 26:49Speaker 2: blown away. I have never seen that or heard of that.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you look up the Book of Shadows
- 26:57Speaker 1: with Dragon Eyes, you'll see it on there too, those
- 27:00Speaker 1: spell books, and yeah, that's what it represents.
- 27:05Speaker 2: And wow, that is incredible. I'm still blown away by
- 27:11Speaker 2: the Taco bell. Yeah. Oh my god. Okay, okay, so
- 27:19Speaker 2: obviously dragons were real. Are they still existing today? Maybe
- 27:26Speaker 2: in the underworld somewhere.
- 27:29Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're all in the underworld, but I
- 27:32Speaker 1: would say yes. I would say strong yes on that.
- 27:36Speaker 1: And I would propose that we have some sections of
- 27:39Speaker 1: military that use dragons unbeknownst to us.
- 27:44Speaker 2: You're kidding, like, what in what sort of way are
- 27:48Speaker 2: we using them?
- 27:50Speaker 1: Yeah? When you look at you know, there's things they
- 27:53Speaker 1: want us to believe are just stories. Maybe some people
- 27:58Speaker 1: have heard of the old show Dinotopia. When you see
- 28:03Speaker 1: some flat Earth maps, you see certain areas or territories
- 28:10Speaker 1: that are labeled Dinotopia. Beyond our normal what we know
- 28:16Speaker 1: is that a real place? Do they really breed dragons
- 28:20Speaker 1: and dinosaurs there? You know, in my experience, you also
- 28:25Speaker 1: have some areas where, you know, I think we've talked
- 28:29Speaker 1: about the floating military islands before. You have some of
- 28:34Speaker 1: those in particularly in connection with Nevada and your Norad areas.
- 28:43Speaker 1: But you know, they have a special class of warriors
- 28:48Speaker 1: that they're going to train to be you know, dragon writers.
- 28:52Speaker 1: We see that in the Disney movie too, with the
- 28:55Speaker 1: you know dragons. Harry Potter Up, Harry Potter, you see it.
- 29:02Speaker 1: So you know there are areas where they do that. Again,
- 29:06Speaker 1: they're not going to let us know that that happens
- 29:09Speaker 1: at all. So I think it's bigger than we could imagine.
- 29:15Speaker 1: But again, that's something they're going to keep, you know,
- 29:19Speaker 1: hush hush as matters of national security because they don't
- 29:22Speaker 1: want us to know.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Wow. And it kind of seems sad if they're breeding them.
- 29:29Speaker 2: It's it's it's like breeding animals for just a purpose
- 29:33Speaker 2: of selling them for money. It's almost sad. Even I
- 29:38Speaker 2: don't I don't know if these creatures are dangerous or
- 29:43Speaker 2: if they're evil. It seems like we made them that way,
- 29:48Speaker 2: so it's kind of sad.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Yeah, there's different different theories or beliefs out there. You know,
- 29:56Speaker 1: some believe that dragons you know, are very intelligent, that
- 30:02Speaker 1: they were known to be kind of keepers of certain
- 30:05Speaker 1: forms of knowledge, that they could communicate that they were
- 30:09Speaker 1: guardians of certain areas or territories. Then you get some
- 30:15Speaker 1: that really give dragons more that animalistic, kind of carnivorous
- 30:22Speaker 1: type creature aspect. I think, you know, for the majority
- 30:28Speaker 1: of the high level occult, they're going to see more
- 30:32Speaker 1: of the first you know, where they see their intelligent creatures.
- 30:37Speaker 1: They're going to learn different forms of witchcraft, gathering, taking
- 30:43Speaker 1: things for what they need, you know, bartering with these
- 30:48Speaker 1: creatures for knowledge, power, authority, and access to territories.
- 30:53Speaker 2: But yeah, I noticed with the Western and the and
- 30:57Speaker 2: the Eastern have different thoughts. It's an imagery of dragons
- 31:01Speaker 2: because Eastern I'm half Japanese, so the Eastern side is,
- 31:06Speaker 2: like you said, they're intelligent, they're protectors. They're more of
- 31:10Speaker 2: a water dragons usually the protectors of oceans and rivers
- 31:16Speaker 2: and things, and Western they think of them as evil
- 31:19Speaker 2: and and you know, malevolent, yes, militious, complete opposite of
- 31:26Speaker 2: the same creature. Yeah, it's yeah, most people think about
- 31:35Speaker 2: fairies as harmless little creatures from children's books. Is that
- 31:42Speaker 2: how they're described though in real life are they really
- 31:46Speaker 2: what are.
- 31:48Speaker 1: You know, I'm laughing because of I definitely would not
- 31:52Speaker 1: put them in the class of harmless nor you know,
- 31:57Speaker 1: when we think of the imagery that's been given to us,
- 32:00Speaker 1: whether that's through Disney or other you know, cartoon type things,
- 32:05Speaker 1: we think that it's you know, kind of that fairies
- 32:09Speaker 1: are cute, they're sweet, they're helpful, they want to preserve
- 32:14Speaker 1: the earth or forests, or you know, kind of this
- 32:18Speaker 1: green mentality of fairies. But you know, they're actually quite
- 32:25Speaker 1: the opposite when you really get into even classic forms
- 32:30Speaker 1: of literature. You know, malicious is probably the least of
- 32:37Speaker 1: the negative characteristics about them. You know, reports or things
- 32:42Speaker 1: include you know, the biting, the attacks, the magic that
- 32:47Speaker 1: was kind of has that negative karma effect, you know,
- 32:53Speaker 1: where it's just vicious in ways. And then you get
- 32:58Speaker 1: the horror stories, you know, with the with the hordes
- 33:01Speaker 1: of fairies attacking and things like that. But I would
- 33:07Speaker 1: put them in that class of dangerous and not not friendly.
- 33:14Speaker 1: You know, if you ever meet one, don't communicate with it,
- 33:18Speaker 1: you know, rebuke it. I put it in the class
- 33:21Speaker 1: of demonic spirits, and I think that they fall into
- 33:26Speaker 1: that lower along with that lower realm class of what
- 33:30Speaker 1: I call the hordes of chicken demons. If you've got one,
- 33:35Speaker 1: you better assume that there is more. And there's an
- 33:40Speaker 1: alluring quality to them, almost like a siren, where they're
- 33:46Speaker 1: going to draw somebody in. They're gonna, you know, have
- 33:50Speaker 1: something that's tempting you, and that's how they get the
- 33:54Speaker 1: legal ground and conform attachments to people. But you know,
- 34:01Speaker 1: there's never you know, maybe another wording for it would
- 34:06Speaker 1: be like your class of gin spirits or Genie spirits,
- 34:10Speaker 1: where they're going to give you something that you want,
- 34:13Speaker 1: but that something is going to come with a very
- 34:15Speaker 1: negative price and they'll collect on that for a long time.
- 34:22Speaker 1: So that's how I would kind of put the fairies.
- 34:26Speaker 1: You do get your high grand high priestesses in the system,
- 34:32Speaker 1: and high priestesses in certain areas where they you know,
- 34:36Speaker 1: you'll see it sometimes when you go certain areas, the
- 34:39Speaker 1: forest areas, sometimes gardens now that communities will form, you'll
- 34:46Speaker 1: see people putting out all these little fairy houses. You'll
- 34:50Speaker 1: see water that they leave, little food or treats that
- 34:55Speaker 1: they leave. Usually there'll be a cat that guards those
- 35:01Speaker 1: areas and you'll see these little fairy forests, you know,
- 35:09Speaker 1: and you know your grand high priests or priestesses are
- 35:13Speaker 1: some of them. Like Laura Vanderbilt was one her area
- 35:17Speaker 1: highly you know, infested with fairies and they would use
- 35:22Speaker 1: them to help gather certain herbs that they wanted for
- 35:26Speaker 1: certain tinctures or potions that they were going to make.
- 35:31Speaker 1: But I always, you know, had it in my mind
- 35:34Speaker 1: fairies are not my friends. And they're vicious. They are vicious.
- 35:39Speaker 2: So yeah, my husband I think of or used to
- 35:46Speaker 2: think of fairies. Oh, they're so cute and like fairies.
- 35:49Speaker 2: My husband's like, why they're evil? They're evil, know right?
- 35:53Speaker 1: No, No, they're not cute.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Disney makes them cute. Are they little?
- 36:01Speaker 1: Are they like really tiny or are they different classes?
- 36:05Speaker 1: Different sizes? So some are little, some aren't, you know,
- 36:10Speaker 1: some are like the size of dragonflies. Others are taller
- 36:16Speaker 1: and are you know, more like a bird medium sized bird.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Yeah. Some can get paid, okay, and they.
- 36:26Speaker 1: And that's their physical manifestation. They can like you know,
- 36:31Speaker 1: like you get your demons where you can have the
- 36:35Speaker 1: kind of the ghost appearance, the spiritual manifestation of them
- 36:39Speaker 1: where you're just seeing out of the corner of your eye.
- 36:44Speaker 1: But then they can take physical form.
- 36:47Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting do they come in the home or they
- 36:52Speaker 2: have to be invited in the home?
- 36:54Speaker 1: Usually invited? Interesting? Yeah, they're not. I mean usually you
- 37:02Speaker 1: have again guardians that they have areas territories that they
- 37:07Speaker 1: have ancient contracts with them, and so they'll stay in
- 37:11Speaker 1: those areas or territories with those with the specific families
- 37:15Speaker 1: that are guardians for them. Like, it's not going to
- 37:18Speaker 1: be like something's just looking and trying to get access
- 37:22Speaker 1: or a point in if there's if they're revealing themselves,
- 37:27Speaker 1: there's usually a reason behind it. You know, it could
- 37:33Speaker 1: be you've just randomly wandered into their territory, but most
- 37:38Speaker 1: of the time it's there's something more to it, and
- 37:42Speaker 1: there's going to be a witch or a grand high
- 37:45Speaker 1: priest or priestess somebody that's behind it that is having
- 37:49Speaker 1: them target and seek out.
- 37:54Speaker 2: You mentioned a moment ago sirens. Are those mermaids? Is
- 37:58Speaker 2: that what that is?
- 38:01Speaker 1: You you get again different forms of sirens. Your water
- 38:05Speaker 1: sirens I would classify as mermaids. Your on land sirens
- 38:10Speaker 1: are probably more like your ban cheese who.
- 38:14Speaker 2: So wait, ban cheese are those old old women?
- 38:19Speaker 1: Like, yeah, those would be the older ancient ones, and
- 38:24Speaker 1: then you can get on land to your incubus subcubis,
- 38:30Speaker 1: where you know, you're getting more of your seductive spirits
- 38:37Speaker 1: that are luring and that can go along with vampirism
- 38:41Speaker 1: as well.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, and these are physical beings or
- 38:48Speaker 2: they're spiritual that has physical bodies there.
- 38:55Speaker 1: I would put them as a class of spirit. But
- 38:59Speaker 1: usually they're gonna have a host of some sort a
- 39:03Speaker 1: being that they're attached to, usually men and women, and
- 39:08Speaker 1: they're gonna attached through that that sin of lust. With
- 39:16Speaker 1: the water sirens, that's a little different because you're getting
- 39:20Speaker 1: a different you know, not necessarily human. You're getting what
- 39:26Speaker 1: I would consider kind of offspring of your giants, your
- 39:33Speaker 1: nephilium that we're connected to water spirits.
- 39:38Speaker 2: So they're like guarding the water areas, the waterways.
- 39:41Speaker 1: For the underground water cities.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to be getting into next. The Bible
- 39:50Speaker 2: mentions unicorn. You you even talked about the unicorns. Tier
- 39:55Speaker 2: are they real unicorns?
- 39:58Speaker 1: I believe they are. There's some interesting things with those.
- 40:03Speaker 1: You know, again they're put into the class of distinct
- 40:07Speaker 1: or you know, mythical. It's kind of shifted over the years,
- 40:12Speaker 1: even though it's mentioned in scripture, you get some scholars
- 40:16Speaker 1: that debate where they claim that no, it's not really
- 40:20Speaker 1: like a horse with a horn on its head. Rather,
- 40:25Speaker 1: it's what scriptures talking about is the rhinoceros with the
- 40:30Speaker 1: horn on its nose. That's what some scholars will push
- 40:34Speaker 1: as the unicorn. But in the occult world, the unicorn
- 40:40Speaker 1: is seen as a very highly prized you know again,
- 40:45Speaker 1: fantastical creature, not meaning that it doesn't exist. That's a
- 40:51Speaker 1: word that they use to classify something of great value
- 40:56Speaker 1: that with it there's both a physical and a spiritual
- 41:04Speaker 1: presence to it, kind of like your angels would fit
- 41:07Speaker 1: into that class. The majority of the time, your angels
- 41:12Speaker 1: are in their spirit form, but Scripture even tells us
- 41:15Speaker 1: that they can manifest as a human.
- 41:19Speaker 2: You know.
- 41:19Speaker 1: It says if you see a stranger, you know, help them,
- 41:24Speaker 1: because you never know when you're helping an angel in disguise.
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- 41:42Speaker 3: Bye, Tell me is it too soon? A uncle, pick
- 42:04Speaker 3: a mom going crazy old.
- 42:08Speaker 4: I know you say you're not afraid to dub it
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- 42:37Speaker 3: Ye swearing my father again, Tell me, is it too soon? Uncle?
- 42:47Speaker 3: Pick them all going crazy?
- 42:49Speaker 4: O my say shake when you're walk into the room. Okay,
- 42:58Speaker 4: things straight.
- 43:00Speaker 3: There's no one like you. But how in the chase
- 43:05Speaker 3: it's feeling with you?
- 43:07Speaker 4: Walk away from this tonight?
- 43:10Speaker 3: I'm with you. Those are my coat breaking moat. I
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- 43:19Speaker 4: Me up tweeting my phone into he's a loco making moat.
- 43:26Speaker 1: I don't know I'm saying it.
- 43:27Speaker 3: So I'm oking, just tweeting my phone and so again,
- 43:36Speaker 3: tell me it's too soon?
- 43:39Speaker 2: Was crazy.
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