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Justinian Lane: Exposing the Truth About Asbestos · Around the House with Eric G®: Home Improvement Remodeling & DIY

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  jump
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  on
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  discussing
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  asbestos
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  from
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  time
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  to
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  time.
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  And
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  I've
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  got
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  the
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  show
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  for
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  you
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  today.
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  I
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  tell
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  you
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  what,
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  this
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  is
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  one
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  of
• 1:54
  the
• 1:54
  biggest
• 1:54
  misconceptions,
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  I
• 1:55
  think,
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  in
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  home
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  improvement.
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  And
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  we
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  have
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  an
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  expert
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  here
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  on
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  the
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  show.
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  Justinian
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  Lane,
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  Esq.
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  Is
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  the
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  founder
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  of
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  law
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  offices
• 2:02
  of
• 2:02
  Justinian
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  Lane
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  P
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  llc,
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  a
• 2:05
  national
• 2:05
  law
• 2:05
  firm
• 2:06
  dedicated
• 2:07
  exclusively
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  to
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  asbestos
• 2:09
  claims.
• 2:10
  So
• 2:11
  we're
• 2:11
  going
• 2:11
  to
• 2:11
  talk
• 2:11
  about
• 2:11
  this
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  stuff
• 2:12
  so
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  we
• 2:12
  can
• 2:12
  get
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  you
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  the
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  right
• 2:13
  information.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  coming
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  on
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  the
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  show
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  today,
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  brother.
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  I
• 2:16
  appreciate
• 2:17
  it.
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  Absolutely.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  having
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  me.
• 2:19
  I
• 2:19
  appreciate
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  the
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  opportunity
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  asbestos.
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  It's
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  favorite
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  subjects.
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  So
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  let's
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  start
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  out,
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  man.
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  How
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  did
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  you
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  get
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  into
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  this?
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  Because
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  it's
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  one
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  of
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  those
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  things
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  that
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  will
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  see
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  a
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  commercial
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  or
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  something
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  on
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  television,
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  but
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  then
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  they
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  go,
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  huh,
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  what
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  caused
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  the.
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  What
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  caused
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  the.
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  Sure.
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  When
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  I
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  went
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  to
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  law
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  school,
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  I
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  wasn't
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  planning
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  on
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  doing
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  asbestos.
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  I
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  think
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  I
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  had
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  basically
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  just
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  seen
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  commercials
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  on
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  TV
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  and
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  was
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  vaguely
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  aware
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  of
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  it.
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  But
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  the
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  first
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  law
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  firm
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  that
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  I
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  worked
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  for
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  as
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  a
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  summer
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  associate
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  did
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  asbestos
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  work,
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  and
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  I
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  started
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  to
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  find
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  it
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  interesting.
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  They
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  invited
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  me
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  back
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  the
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  second
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  and
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  third
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  year
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  and
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  then
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  hired
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  me.
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  And
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  as
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  I
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  started
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  to
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  learn
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  about
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  asbestos,
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  it
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  got
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  really
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  personal
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  for
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  me
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  because
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  I
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  had
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  lost
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  multiple
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  family
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  members
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  to
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  cancer
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  and
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  had
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  just
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  assumed,
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  oh,
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  they
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  were
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  smokers,
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  that's
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  life.
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  But
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  realizing,
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  oh,
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  no,
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  they
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  were
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  exposed
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  to
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  asbestos
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  daily.
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  And
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  that
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  dramatically
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  increases
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  your
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  risk
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  of
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  cancer,
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  even
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  if
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  you
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  were
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  a
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  smoker,
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  especially.
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  So
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  I
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  started
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  taking
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  a
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  much
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  deeper
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  personal
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  interest
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  in
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  that.
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  And
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  I've
• 3:17
  always
• 3:17
  been
• 3:18
  a
• 3:18
  bit
• 3:18
  of
• 3:18
  a
• 3:18
  history
• 3:18
  nerd.
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  So
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  when
• 3:19
  you
• 3:19
  get
• 3:20
  those
• 3:21
  kind
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  of
• 3:21
  mixes
• 3:21
  of
• 3:22
  it
• 3:22
  affected
• 3:22
  my
• 3:23
  family,
• 3:23
  affected
• 3:23
  my
• 3:24
  life.
• 3:24
  And
• 3:24
  it's
• 3:24
  an
• 3:24
  interesting
• 3:25
  story.
• 3:25
  I
• 3:26
  just
• 3:26
  haven't
• 3:26
  really
• 3:26
  been
• 3:26
  able
• 3:27
  to
• 3:27
  put
• 3:27
  it
• 3:27
  down
• 3:27
  since
• 3:27
  I
• 3:27
  started
• 3:28
  doing
• 3:28
  that
• 3:28
  back
• 3:28
  in
• 3:29
  2010.
• 3:30
  Nice.
• 3:31
  Yeah,
• 3:31
  it's
• 3:31
  interesting
• 3:32
  out
• 3:32
  there.
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  think,
• 3:32
  as
• 3:33
  I
• 3:33
  said
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  the
• 3:33
  intro,
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  this
• 3:34
  is
• 3:34
  one
• 3:34
  of
• 3:34
  the
• 3:35
  most,
• 3:35
  I
• 3:36
  think,
• 3:36
  misunderstood
• 3:37
  building
• 3:38
  materials
• 3:38
  out
• 3:39
  there
• 3:39
  because
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  think
• 3:41
  there's
• 3:41
  so
• 3:41
  much
• 3:41
  confusion
• 3:42
  that
• 3:42
  everybody
• 3:42
  mixes
• 3:43
  in
• 3:44
  that
• 3:44
  asbestos
• 3:45
  stopped
• 3:45
  in
• 3:45
  1978
• 3:47
  with
• 3:47
  lead
• 3:47
  paint.
• 3:48
  And
• 3:48
  they
• 3:48
  couldn't
• 3:48
  be
• 3:49
  farther
• 3:49
  from
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  truth.
• 3:50
  Absolutely.
• 3:51
  Asbestos
• 3:52
  continued
• 3:52
  being
• 3:52
  used
• 3:53
  past
• 3:53
  1978.
• 3:54
  It
• 3:55
  was,
• 3:55
  I
• 3:55
  think,
• 3:55
  24,
• 3:56
  2024
• 3:57
  where
• 3:57
  they
• 3:57
  finally
• 3:58
  banned
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  very
• 3:58
  last
• 3:59
  uses
• 3:59
  of
• 4:00
  asbestos
• 4:00
  in
• 4:00
  the
• 4:01
  country,
• 4:01
  which
• 4:01
  was
• 4:02
  actually
• 4:02
  used
• 4:02
  for
• 4:03
  places
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  would
• 4:04
  make
• 4:04
  like
• 4:04
  chlorine
• 4:05
  gas,
• 4:06
  things
• 4:06
  like
• 4:06
  that.
• 4:06
  They
• 4:06
  would
• 4:07
  stuff
• 4:07
  asbestos
• 4:08
  into
• 4:08
  diaphragms
• 4:09
  in
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  cells
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  make
• 4:10
  those.
• 4:10
  I've
• 4:10
  represented
• 4:11
  some
• 4:11
  gentlemen,
• 4:11
  that
• 4:12
  was
• 4:12
  their
• 4:12
  job.
• 4:12
  And
• 4:13
  they
• 4:13
  would
• 4:13
  just
• 4:13
  describe
• 4:14
  50
• 4:14
  pound
• 4:15
  bags
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  ASBE,
• 4:16
  just
• 4:16
  shaking
• 4:16
  them
• 4:16
  up
• 4:17
  and
• 4:17
  dropping
• 4:17
  them
• 4:17
  down.
• 4:18
  But
• 4:18
  other
• 4:18
  than
• 4:19
  those
• 4:19
  industrial
• 4:19
  uses,
• 4:20
  asbestos
• 4:20
  was
• 4:20
  still
• 4:20
  used
• 4:21
  into
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  80s.
• 4:22
  It
• 4:22
  was
• 4:22
  used
• 4:22
  in
• 4:23
  home
• 4:23
  construction,
• 4:24
  commercial
• 4:24
  construction.
• 4:25
  Basically
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  20th
• 4:26
  century
• 4:26
  was
• 4:26
  built
• 4:27
  with
• 4:27
  asbestos.
• 4:28
  No
• 4:28
  question.
• 4:29
  And
• 4:29
  if
• 4:29
  people.
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  live
• 4:30
  in
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  portion
• 4:31
  Portland,
• 4:31
  Oregon
• 4:32
  metro
• 4:32
  area
• 4:33
  here
• 4:33
  and
• 4:33
  we
• 4:33
  have
• 4:33
  our
• 4:34
  waste
• 4:34
  and
• 4:35
  this
• 4:35
  has
• 4:35
  caused
• 4:35
  a
• 4:35
  lot
• 4:36
  of
• 4:36
  discussions
• 4:37
  as
• 4:37
  of
• 4:38
  June
• 4:39
  because
• 4:39
  beginning
• 4:40
  June
• 4:40
  1st
• 4:40
  in
• 4:40
  my
• 4:40
  area,
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  people
• 4:41
  that
• 4:42
  handle
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  waste
• 4:42
  here
• 4:42
  in
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  Portland
• 4:43
  metro
• 4:43
  area,
• 4:43
  which
• 4:44
  is
• 4:44
  metro,
• 4:45
  they
• 4:45
  made
• 4:45
  it.
• 4:45
  So
• 4:46
  any
• 4:46
  commercial
• 4:47
  structure
• 4:47
  demolitions.
• 4:49
  So
• 4:49
  if
• 4:49
  it's
• 4:50
  somebody's
• 4:51
  restaurant
• 4:52
  or
• 4:52
  law
• 4:52
  office
• 4:53
  or
• 4:54
  commercial
• 4:54
  building
• 4:55
  that
• 4:56
  as
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  June
• 4:57
  1,
• 4:57
  2025,
• 4:59
  all
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  it
• 5:00
  has
• 5:00
  to
• 5:01
  be
• 5:01
  tested
• 5:01
  and
• 5:02
  lab
• 5:02
  tests
• 5:02
  are
• 5:02
  required
• 5:03
  before
• 5:03
  taking
• 5:03
  any
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  that
• 5:04
  waste
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  the
• 5:05
  landfill
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  get
• 5:06
  rid
• 5:06
  of
• 5:06
  it.
• 5:07
  And
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  has
• 5:07
  caused
• 5:08
  some
• 5:08
  interesting
• 5:08
  discussions
• 5:09
  now
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  people
• 5:10
  are
• 5:10
  like,
• 5:10
  wait
• 5:10
  a
• 5:10
  minute.
• 5:11
  What?
• 5:12
  It's
• 5:12
  interesting.
• 5:13
  Yeah,
• 5:13
  that
• 5:13
  sounds
• 5:13
  like
• 5:14
  it
• 5:14
  would
• 5:14
  be
• 5:14
  incredibly
• 5:15
  expensive
• 5:15
  to
• 5:16
  try
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  go
• 5:16
  and
• 5:16
  do.
• 5:16
  And
• 5:16
  I
• 5:17
  can
• 5:17
  see
• 5:17
  real
• 5:17
  concerns
• 5:18
  with
• 5:18
  that.
• 5:18
  I
• 5:19
  would
• 5:19
  say
• 5:19
  that
• 5:20
  you
• 5:20
  wouldn't
• 5:20
  even
• 5:20
  need
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  test
• 5:21
  a
• 5:21
  lot
• 5:21
  of
• 5:22
  buildings.
• 5:22
  You
• 5:22
  could
• 5:22
  just
• 5:23
  know
• 5:23
  by
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  decade
• 5:24
  they
• 5:24
  were
• 5:24
  built,
• 5:24
  this
• 5:25
  was
• 5:25
  built
• 5:25
  with
• 5:25
  asbestos.
• 5:26
  It
• 5:26
  was
• 5:26
  built
• 5:26
  in
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  60s
• 5:27
  or
• 5:27
  70s.
• 5:28
  Absolutely.
• 5:28
  It
• 5:28
  was
• 5:29
  80s,
• 5:30
  maybe
• 5:31
  90s.
• 5:31
  Gets
• 5:31
  less
• 5:31
  likely,
• 5:32
  but
• 5:32
  it's
• 5:32
  still
• 5:32
  possible.
• 5:33
  But
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  older
• 5:33
  it
• 5:33
  is,
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  more
• 5:34
  likely
• 5:34
  asbestos
• 5:35
  is
• 5:35
  there.
• 5:35
  Just
• 5:35
  kind
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  period.
• 5:36
  Yeah,
• 5:37
  it's
• 5:37
  fascinating.
• 5:37
  You
• 5:37
  get
• 5:38
  into
• 5:38
  those
• 5:38
  old
• 5:38
  homes
• 5:39
  and
• 5:39
  in
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  basement,
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  nine
• 5:40
  by
• 5:40
  nine
• 5:41
  tiles
• 5:42
  that
• 5:42
  probably
• 5:42
  made
• 5:43
  by
• 5:43
  Armstrong
• 5:43
  or
• 5:44
  one
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  those
• 5:44
  main
• 5:44
  companies
• 5:45
  out
• 5:45
  there,
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  same
• 5:46
  ones
• 5:47
  that
• 5:47
  had
• 5:47
  in
• 5:47
  their
• 5:47
  ads,
• 5:48
  which
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  thought
• 5:48
  was
• 5:48
  absolutely
• 5:49
  amazing.
• 5:49
  I've
• 5:50
  got
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  couple
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  them
• 5:50
  saved
• 5:51
  where
• 5:51
  I've
• 5:51
  got
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  magazine
• 5:52
  ads
• 5:52
  and
• 5:53
  Good
• 5:53
  Housekeeping
• 5:53
  or
• 5:54
  whatever.
• 5:54
  Armstrong
• 5:55
  tiles
• 5:56
  now
• 5:57
  with
• 5:57
  added
• 5:57
  asbestos
• 5:58
  for
• 5:58
  durability.
• 5:59
  It's
• 5:59
  so
• 6:00
  amazing
• 6:00
  how
• 6:00
  such
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  quote,
• 6:02
  wonder
• 6:02
  product.
• 6:03
  We
• 6:04
  found
• 6:04
  out
• 6:04
  more
• 6:04
  about
• 6:05
  it
• 6:05
  and
• 6:05
  found
• 6:05
  out
• 6:06
  how
• 6:06
  really
• 6:06
  bad
• 6:06
  it
• 6:06
  is
• 6:07
  for
• 6:07
  us.
• 6:08
  Yeah,
• 6:08
  Armstrong
• 6:09
  was
• 6:09
  one
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  many
• 6:09
  companies
• 6:09
  that,
• 6:10
  that
• 6:10
  made
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  asbestos
• 6:11
  floor
• 6:11
  tiles
• 6:12
  and
• 6:12
  they
• 6:12
  would
• 6:13
  add
• 6:13
  asbestos
• 6:14
  in
• 6:14
  to
• 6:14
  reinforce
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  make
• 6:16
  them
• 6:16
  durable.
• 6:16
  Asbestos
• 6:17
  is
• 6:17
  basically,
• 6:18
  it's
• 6:18
  a
• 6:18
  rock.
• 6:19
  It
• 6:19
  forms
• 6:19
  in
• 6:19
  a
• 6:20
  specific
• 6:20
  way
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  lets
• 6:21
  it
• 6:21
  be
• 6:21
  teased
• 6:21
  out
• 6:22
  and
• 6:22
  you
• 6:22
  can
• 6:22
  weave
• 6:22
  it
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  do
• 6:23
  things,
• 6:23
  but
• 6:23
  it's
• 6:24
  a
• 6:24
  rock.
• 6:24
  So
• 6:24
  when
• 6:24
  you
• 6:25
  add
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  rock
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  something,
• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  course
• 6:26
  it's
• 6:26
  going
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  be
• 6:27
  more
• 6:27
  durable.
• 6:27
  And
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  your
• 6:28
  point
• 6:28
  about
• 6:28
  the
• 6:29
  ads,
• 6:29
  you
• 6:29
  know,
• 6:29
  my,
• 6:29
  my
• 6:30
  office,
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  have
• 6:30
  probably
• 6:31
  dozens
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  ads
• 6:32
  from
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  40s
• 6:32
  and
• 6:32
  50s
• 6:33
  and
• 6:33
  60s
• 6:34
  just
• 6:34
  showing
• 6:34
  all
• 6:34
  of
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  many
• 6:35
  uses
• 6:35
  of
• 6:36
  asbestos
• 6:36
  and
• 6:36
  how
• 6:36
  great
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  wonderful
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  was.
• 6:38
  Yes.
• 6:39
  It
• 6:40
  used
• 6:40
  to
• 6:40
  be
• 6:40
  called
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  magic
• 6:41
  mineral.
• 6:41
  That
• 6:41
  was,
• 6:42
  it
• 6:43
  seemed
• 6:43
  like
• 6:43
  magic
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  could
• 6:44
  take
• 6:44
  a
• 6:44
  rock
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  weave
• 6:44
  it
• 6:44
  into
• 6:45
  cloth.
• 6:45
  Right.
• 6:46
  And
• 6:46
  then
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  health
• 6:47
  risks
• 6:47
  started
• 6:47
  to
• 6:48
  come
• 6:48
  out
• 6:48
  and
• 6:48
  industry
• 6:49
  downplayed
• 6:50
  and
• 6:50
  actively
• 6:50
  concealed
• 6:51
  because
• 6:51
  that
• 6:52
  would
• 6:52
  be
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  end
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  the
• 6:53
  asbestos
• 6:53
  industry,
• 6:53
  which
• 6:54
  it
• 6:54
  rightfully
• 6:54
  was.
• 6:55
  Yeah,
• 6:55
  it's
• 6:56
  amazing
• 6:56
  out
• 6:56
  there.
• 6:56
  My
• 6:57
  mom
• 6:57
  tells
• 6:57
  stories
• 6:57
  when
• 6:58
  she
• 6:58
  was
• 6:58
  a,
• 6:58
  in
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  60s,
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  third
• 7:00
  grade
• 7:00
  school
• 7:01
  teacher
• 7:01
  and
• 7:02
  she
• 7:02
  took
• 7:02
  when
• 7:03
  they
• 7:03
  were
• 7:03
  doing
• 7:03
  clay
• 7:04
  day
• 7:04
  and
• 7:04
  they
• 7:04
  were
• 7:04
  making
• 7:05
  clay
• 7:06
  things
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  fire
• 7:06
  off,
• 7:07
  they
• 7:07
  were
• 7:07
  mixing
• 7:08
  in
• 7:08
  asbestos
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  make
• 7:09
  sure
• 7:09
  it
• 7:09
  wouldn't
• 7:09
  crack
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  kiln
• 7:11
  and
• 7:11
  they
• 7:11
  were
• 7:11
  just
• 7:12
  taking
• 7:12
  it
• 7:12
  out
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  bags
• 7:12
  and
• 7:13
  mixing
• 7:13
  it
• 7:13
  in
• 7:13
  with
• 7:13
  the
• 7:14
  third
• 7:14
  graders.
• 7:14
  And
• 7:15
  it
• 7:15
  wasn't
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  big
• 7:15
  a
• 7:16
  deal
• 7:16
  back
• 7:16
  then.
• 7:16
  But
• 7:17
  we
• 7:17
  didn't
• 7:17
  know
• 7:17
  what
• 7:17
  we
• 7:18
  know
• 7:18
  today.
• 7:19
  No,
• 7:19
  no.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:20
  it's
• 7:20
  funny
• 7:20
  you
• 7:20
  mentioned
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  exact
• 7:22
  use,
• 7:22
  the
• 7:23
  very
• 7:23
  first
• 7:23
  known
• 7:24
  use
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  asbestos
• 7:25
  was
• 7:25
  about
• 7:26
  5,000
• 7:27
  BC
• 7:27
  in
• 7:28
  Finland.
• 7:28
  And
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  people
• 7:30
  there
• 7:30
  were
• 7:30
  adding
• 7:30
  asbestos
• 7:31
  to
• 7:31
  their
• 7:32
  clay
• 7:32
  pots
• 7:32
  to
• 7:33
  make
• 7:33
  them
• 7:33
  fire
• 7:34
  better
• 7:34
  and
• 7:34
  do
• 7:34
  all
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  same
• 7:35
  things
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  your
• 7:35
  mom
• 7:35
  was
• 7:36
  having
• 7:36
  going
• 7:36
  on
• 7:36
  in
• 7:36
  third.
• 7:38
  So
• 7:38
  relatively
• 7:38
  early
• 7:39
  humans
• 7:39
  figured
• 7:39
  out,
• 7:40
  geez,
• 7:40
  this
• 7:41
  stuff
• 7:41
  completely
• 7:41
  resists
• 7:42
  heat.
• 7:42
  It
• 7:42
  was
• 7:42
  used
• 7:43
  as
• 7:43
  wicks
• 7:43
  and
• 7:43
  Zippo
• 7:44
  lighters.
• 7:44
  It
• 7:44
  just
• 7:44
  doesn't
• 7:45
  burn.
• 7:45
  So
• 7:45
  they
• 7:46
  found
• 7:46
  that
• 7:46
  fascinating.
• 7:47
  And
• 7:47
  obviously
• 7:48
  thousands
• 7:48
  of
• 7:49
  years
• 7:49
  ago
• 7:49
  nobody
• 7:49
  had
• 7:50
  any
• 7:50
  idea
• 7:50
  of
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  health
• 7:51
  risks.
• 7:51
  But
• 7:52
  by
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  1920s,
• 7:53
  workers
• 7:54
  were
• 7:54
  starting
• 7:54
  to
• 7:54
  get
• 7:55
  sick
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  die
• 7:55
  of
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  breathing
• 7:56
  disease
• 7:56
  called
• 7:57
  asbestosis.
• 7:58
  And
• 7:58
  that's
• 7:59
  what
• 7:59
  kind
• 7:59
  of
• 7:59
  started
• 7:59
  to
• 8:00
  trigger
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  health
• 8:00
  cover
• 8:01
  up
• 8:01
  even
• 8:01
  before
• 8:02
  they
• 8:02
  found
• 8:02
  out
• 8:03
  that
• 8:03
  it
• 8:03
  can
• 8:03
  cause
• 8:03
  various
• 8:04
  types
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  cancer.
• 8:05
  The
• 8:05
  amazing
• 8:06
  thing
• 8:06
  is
• 8:06
  that
• 8:07
  great
• 8:07
  example
• 8:07
  I
• 8:08
  saw
• 8:08
  somebody
• 8:08
  here
• 8:09
  probably
• 8:09
  had
• 8:09
  been
• 8:10
  six,
• 8:10
  seven
• 8:10
  years
• 8:10
  ago
• 8:11
  in
• 8:11
  my
• 8:11
  area.
• 8:12
  A
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  think
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  guy
• 8:14
  was
• 8:14
  a
• 8:14
  real
• 8:14
  estate
• 8:14
  agent
• 8:15
  and
• 8:15
  he
• 8:16
  was
• 8:16
  flipping
• 8:16
  houses
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  had
• 8:17
  Somebody
• 8:18
  come
• 8:18
  in,
• 8:18
  take
• 8:19
  down
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  popcorn
• 8:20
  ceilings,
• 8:20
  take
• 8:21
  up
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  floor,
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  got
• 8:23
  hit
• 8:23
  with
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  hundred
• 8:23
  thousand
• 8:24
  dollar
• 8:24
  fine
• 8:25
  by
• 8:25
  not
• 8:25
  following
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  rules.
• 8:27
  And
• 8:27
  many
• 8:28
  areas
• 8:28
  they
• 8:28
  have
• 8:28
  those
• 8:29
  fines,
• 8:29
  areas
• 8:30
  it's
• 8:30
  wild
• 8:30
  west
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  that
• 8:32
  there's
• 8:32
  nobody
• 8:33
  really
• 8:33
  paying
• 8:33
  attention
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  what's
• 8:34
  going
• 8:34
  on
• 8:35
  with
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  products.
• 8:35
  Which
• 8:35
  means
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  can
• 8:36
  be
• 8:37
  moving
• 8:37
  into
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  house
• 8:37
  that
• 8:37
  was
• 8:38
  recently
• 8:38
  renovated
• 8:39
  and
• 8:39
  have
• 8:39
  those
• 8:40
  fibers
• 8:40
  hanging
• 8:40
  around
• 8:41
  for
• 8:41
  months
• 8:41
  or
• 8:42
  years
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  come.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  had
• 8:43
  nothing
• 8:43
  to
• 8:44
  do
• 8:44
  with
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  renovation.
• 8:45
  Absolutely.
• 8:46
  It's
• 8:46
  so
• 8:47
  easy
• 8:47
  for
• 8:47
  those
• 8:47
  fibers
• 8:48
  to
• 8:48
  get
• 8:48
  suspended
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  air.
• 8:50
  Like
• 8:50
  you
• 8:51
  can
• 8:51
  see
• 8:51
  bundles
• 8:51
  of
• 8:52
  asbestos
• 8:52
  fibers
• 8:54
  with
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  naked
• 8:54
  eye,
• 8:55
  but
• 8:55
  if
• 8:55
  they're
• 8:55
  teased
• 8:55
  all
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  way
• 8:56
  apart
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  a
• 8:57
  single
• 8:57
  individual
• 8:58
  fiber,
• 8:59
  optical
• 8:59
  microscope
• 9:00
  can
• 9:00
  actually
• 9:01
  see
• 9:01
  them.
• 9:01
  They're
• 9:01
  90
• 9:02
  nanometers,
• 9:03
  sorry,
• 9:03
  30
• 9:03
  nanometers
• 9:04
  wide,
• 9:05
  which
• 9:05
  is
• 9:05
  smaller
• 9:06
  than
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  visible
• 9:06
  light
• 9:07
  wavelength.
• 9:07
  Actually,
• 9:07
  that's
• 9:08
  how
• 9:08
  tiny
• 9:08
  these
• 9:09
  things
• 9:09
  were.
• 9:09
  We
• 9:09
  didn't
• 9:09
  actually
• 9:10
  get
• 9:10
  to
• 9:10
  see
• 9:10
  an
• 9:11
  individual
• 9:11
  fiber
• 9:12
  until
• 9:12
  they
• 9:12
  invented
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  electron
• 9:13
  microscope.
• 9:14
  Wow.
• 9:14
  And
• 9:14
  what
• 9:15
  that
• 9:15
  means,
• 9:16
  those
• 9:16
  things
• 9:16
  hang
• 9:17
  in
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  air.
• 9:18
  They've
• 9:18
  done
• 9:18
  studies.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  think
• 9:19
  there
• 9:19
  was
• 9:19
  one,
• 9:20
  and
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  want
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  say
• 9:20
  it
• 9:20
  was
• 9:21
  Japan,
• 9:21
  where
• 9:22
  asbestos
• 9:23
  fiber
• 9:23
  can
• 9:23
  travel.
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  think
• 9:24
  it
• 9:24
  was
• 9:24
  11
• 9:25
  kilometers.
• 9:26
  Wow.
• 9:26
  Because
• 9:26
  they're
• 9:27
  so
• 9:27
  light,
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  single
• 9:29
  speck
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  visible
• 9:29
  dust
• 9:30
  could
• 9:30
  hold
• 9:30
  thousands
• 9:31
  of
• 9:31
  individual
• 9:32
  fibers.
• 9:33
  So
• 9:33
  these
• 9:33
  things
• 9:33
  are
• 9:33
  super
• 9:34
  tiny.
• 9:34
  So
• 9:34
  yeah,
• 9:35
  once
• 9:35
  they
• 9:35
  get
• 9:35
  in
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  air,
• 9:36
  they
• 9:36
  don't.
• 9:36
  Gravity
• 9:37
  doesn't
• 9:37
  really
• 9:37
  do
• 9:37
  much
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  them.
• 9:38
  They
• 9:38
  hang
• 9:38
  and
• 9:38
  they
• 9:39
  get
• 9:39
  blow
• 9:39
  around.
• 9:40
  And
• 9:41
  something
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  I
• 9:41
  didn't
• 9:42
  learn
• 9:42
  until
• 9:43
  much,
• 9:43
  many
• 9:44
  years
• 9:44
  into
• 9:44
  this
• 9:44
  is
• 9:45
  how
• 9:45
  sticky
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  asbestos
• 9:47
  fibers
• 9:47
  are.
• 9:47
  They
• 9:48
  carry
• 9:48
  an
• 9:48
  electrical
• 9:49
  charge,
• 9:50
  so
• 9:50
  they
• 9:50
  cling
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  things
• 9:51
  in
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  way
• 9:52
  that
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  wouldn't
• 9:52
  necessarily
• 9:53
  expect.
• 9:54
  So
• 9:54
  yeah,
• 9:54
  if
• 9:54
  you've
• 9:55
  had
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  remodeled
• 9:55
  house
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  they
• 9:56
  didn't
• 9:56
  do
• 9:57
  a
• 9:57
  really
• 9:57
  good
• 9:57
  job
• 9:57
  with
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  abatement
• 9:58
  procedures,
• 9:59
  asbestos
• 10:00
  could
• 10:00
  be
• 10:00
  in
• 10:01
  your
• 10:01
  house
• 10:01
  for
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  next
• 10:02
  hundred
• 10:02
  years
• 10:02
  floating
• 10:03
  around
• 10:03
  and
• 10:04
  you
• 10:04
  wouldn't
• 10:04
  even
• 10:04
  know
• 10:04
  it.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:05
  so
• 10:05
  every
• 10:06
  time
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  take
• 10:06
  your
• 10:07
  just
• 10:07
  regular
• 10:07
  residential
• 10:08
  vacuum
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  you
• 10:09
  dust
• 10:09
  and
• 10:10
  everything
• 10:10
  else,
• 10:11
  you're
• 10:11
  just
• 10:12
  spreading
• 10:12
  it
• 10:12
  around,
• 10:13
  moving
• 10:13
  it
• 10:13
  around
• 10:14
  again.
• 10:14
  And
• 10:15
  that
• 10:15
  filter
• 10:15
  inside
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  vacuum
• 10:16
  sure
• 10:16
  isn't
• 10:17
  going
• 10:17
  to
• 10:17
  grab
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  tiny
• 10:18
  piece.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:19
  so
• 10:19
  you're
• 10:19
  just
• 10:19
  moving
• 10:20
  around
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  kind
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  like
• 10:21
  deck
• 10:21
  chairs
• 10:22
  in
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  Titanic,
• 10:23
  it's
• 10:23
  not
• 10:23
  getting
• 10:23
  captured
• 10:24
  by
• 10:24
  anything
• 10:24
  unless
• 10:26
  somehow
• 10:26
  it's
• 10:26
  statically
• 10:27
  being
• 10:27
  caught
• 10:27
  inside
• 10:28
  the
• 10:28
  filter.
• 10:28
  But
• 10:28
  most
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  it's
• 10:29
  still
• 10:29
  just
• 10:29
  going
• 10:29
  to
• 10:30
  move
• 10:30
  around.
• 10:31
  If
• 10:31
  you
• 10:31
  get
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  HEPA
• 10:31
  filtering
• 10:32
  and
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  negative
• 10:33
  pressure
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  all
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  stuff,
• 10:34
  sure,
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  guess
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  can
• 10:34
  get
• 10:34
  it
• 10:35
  out.
• 10:35
  But
• 10:35
  it's
• 10:36
  better
• 10:36
  if
• 10:36
  they
• 10:36
  do
• 10:36
  that
• 10:36
  all
• 10:37
  during
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  renovation
• 10:38
  process.
• 10:38
  So
• 10:38
  I
• 10:39
  would
• 10:39
  always
• 10:39
  be
• 10:40
  a
• 10:40
  little
• 10:40
  scared
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  if
• 10:41
  this
• 10:41
  is
• 10:41
  an
• 10:41
  older
• 10:41
  home
• 10:42
  that's
• 10:42
  been
• 10:42
  renovated.
• 10:43
  What
• 10:43
  all
• 10:43
  did
• 10:44
  you
• 10:44
  guys
• 10:44
  do
• 10:44
  and
• 10:45
  how
• 10:45
  did
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  do
• 10:46
  it?
• 10:46
  Like
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  mentioned
• 12:35
  floor
• 12:35
  tiles.
• 12:35
  A
• 12:36
  lot
• 12:36
  of
• 12:36
  times
• 12:36
  they
• 12:36
  will
• 12:37
  just
• 12:37
  put
• 12:37
  something
• 12:37
  over
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  vinyl
• 12:38
  floor
• 12:39
  and
• 12:39
  that's
• 12:39
  fine.
• 12:40
  Nothing's
• 12:40
  going
• 12:40
  to
• 12:41
  happen
• 12:41
  unless
• 12:41
  those
• 12:41
  things
• 12:41
  get
• 12:42
  disturbed.
• 12:43
  So
• 12:43
  asbestos
• 12:44
  is
• 12:44
  only
• 12:44
  dangerous
• 12:45
  if
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  breathe
• 12:45
  it.
• 12:46
  Touching
• 12:46
  it
• 12:46
  doesn't
• 12:47
  do
• 12:47
  anything
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  you.
• 12:48
  It's
• 12:48
  not
• 12:48
  like
• 12:48
  radioactive.
• 12:49
  It
• 12:49
  has
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  be
• 12:50
  inhaled
• 12:51
  or
• 12:51
  swallowed
• 12:51
  somehow.
• 12:52
  So
• 12:52
  if
• 12:53
  when
• 12:53
  they
• 12:53
  do
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  renovation
• 12:54
  they
• 12:54
  get
• 12:54
  it
• 12:54
  covered
• 12:55
  or
• 12:55
  encapsulated
• 12:55
  as
• 12:56
  they'll
• 12:56
  call
• 12:56
  it,
• 12:56
  you'll
• 12:57
  be
• 12:57
  fine.
• 12:57
  But
• 12:58
  if
• 12:58
  they
• 12:58
  don't,
• 12:59
  you
• 12:59
  could
• 12:59
  be
• 12:59
  breathing
• 13:00
  it
• 13:00
  and
• 13:00
  that
• 13:00
  carries
• 13:01
  risks.
• 13:02
  What's
• 13:02
  interesting
• 13:02
  and
• 13:03
  on
• 13:03
  social
• 13:03
  media
• 13:03
  drives
• 13:04
  me
• 13:04
  absolutely
• 13:05
  crazy.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:05
  I'm
• 13:06
  going
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  call
• 13:06
  this
• 13:06
  mythical
• 13:07
  person
• 13:07
  out
• 13:07
  because
• 13:08
  there's
• 13:08
  always
• 13:09
  one
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  group
• 13:09
  someplace.
• 13:10
  But
• 13:11
  there'll
• 13:11
  be
• 13:11
  somebody
• 13:12
  posting
• 13:12
  up
• 13:12
  what
• 13:13
  clearly
• 13:13
  looks
• 13:14
  like
• 13:15
  it's
• 13:15
  most
• 13:15
  likely
• 13:15
  asbestos,
• 13:16
  Canadian
• 13:16
  material.
• 13:17
  In
• 13:17
  one
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  groups,
• 13:18
  they
• 13:18
  post
• 13:19
  it
• 13:19
  up
• 13:19
  there.
• 13:20
  Everybody
• 13:20
  else
• 13:20
  is
• 13:20
  saying,
• 13:21
  hey,
• 13:21
  you
• 13:21
  better
• 13:21
  get
• 13:21
  that
• 13:22
  tested.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:22
  there's
• 13:23
  that
• 13:23
  one.
• 13:24
  Generally
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  guy.
• 13:26
  I've
• 13:26
  been
• 13:27
  doing
• 13:27
  this
• 13:27
  for
• 13:28
  30
• 13:28
  years
• 13:28
  and
• 13:29
  I've
• 13:29
  never.
• 13:30
  You've
• 13:30
  seen
• 13:30
  it.
• 13:31
  And
• 13:32
  it's
• 13:32
  that
• 13:33
  typical
• 13:34
  contractor
• 13:34
  that's
• 13:34
  been
• 13:35
  doing
• 13:35
  it.
• 13:35
  I
• 13:36
  don't
• 13:36
  have
• 13:36
  it
• 13:36
  and
• 13:36
  I've
• 13:36
  been
• 13:37
  working
• 13:37
  with
• 13:37
  it
• 13:37
  for
• 13:37
  30
• 13:37
  years.
• 13:38
  What
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  think
• 13:39
  is
• 13:39
  interesting
• 13:40
  is
• 13:40
  that
• 13:42
  it
• 13:42
  takes
• 13:43
  so
• 13:43
  long
• 13:43
  for
• 13:44
  any
• 13:44
  of
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  effects
• 13:44
  to
• 13:45
  show
• 13:45
  up
• 13:45
  to.
• 13:46
  You
• 13:46
  don't
• 13:46
  really
• 13:46
  have
• 13:47
  it
• 13:47
  where
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  did
• 13:48
  a
• 13:49
  project
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  all
• 13:49
  of
• 13:49
  a
• 13:50
  sudden
• 13:50
  you're
• 13:50
  sick.
• 13:50
  This
• 13:51
  could
• 13:51
  show
• 13:51
  up
• 13:52
  decades
• 13:52
  later.
• 13:53
  Correct.
• 13:54
  Like
• 13:54
  in
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  very
• 13:55
  early
• 13:55
  days
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  asbestos
• 13:56
  in
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  20s
• 13:57
  and
• 13:57
  30s
• 13:58
  when
• 13:58
  people
• 13:58
  were
• 13:58
  working
• 13:59
  with
• 13:59
  lot
• 13:59
  higher
• 14:00
  concentrations.
• 14:01
  Even
• 14:01
  in
• 14:01
  those
• 14:02
  days,
• 14:02
  the
• 14:03
  minimum
• 14:03
  amount
• 14:03
  of
• 14:04
  time
• 14:04
  before
• 14:04
  you'd
• 14:04
  get
• 14:04
  sick
• 14:05
  would
• 14:05
  be
• 14:05
  about
• 14:05
  10
• 14:06
  years
• 14:07
  today
• 14:08
  because
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  doses
• 14:09
  are
• 14:09
  much
• 14:09
  smaller
• 14:09
  than
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  used
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  be.
• 14:11
  They're
• 14:11
  finding,
• 14:12
  they
• 14:12
  call
• 14:12
  it
• 14:12
  a
• 14:13
  latency
• 14:13
  period
• 14:13
  from
• 14:13
  the
• 14:14
  time
• 14:14
  since
• 14:14
  first
• 14:14
  exposure,
• 14:16
  50,
• 14:16
  60,
• 14:17
  even
• 14:17
  70
• 14:18
  years.
• 14:19
  So
• 14:19
  people
• 14:19
  exposed
• 14:20
  as
• 14:20
  a
• 14:20
  children
• 14:21
  are
• 14:21
  getting
• 14:21
  diseases
• 14:22
  that
• 14:22
  are
• 14:22
  caused
• 14:23
  by
• 14:23
  asbestos
• 14:23
  and
• 14:24
  their
• 14:24
  old
• 14:24
  age
• 14:25
  because
• 14:26
  it
• 14:26
  takes
• 14:26
  a
• 14:26
  long
• 14:27
  time
• 14:27
  for
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  damage
• 14:27
  to
• 14:28
  be
• 14:28
  done.
• 14:28
  The
• 14:28
  way
• 14:28
  that
• 14:28
  asbestos
• 14:29
  can
• 14:29
  cause
• 14:30
  cancer.
• 14:30
  To
• 14:31
  your
• 14:31
  other
• 14:31
  point,
• 14:31
  there's
• 14:32
  always
• 14:32
  that
• 14:32
  guy
• 14:32
  that
• 14:33
  I'm
• 14:33
  fine.
• 14:33
  There's
• 14:34
  people
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  smoke
• 14:35
  every
• 14:35
  day
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  they
• 14:36
  don't
• 14:36
  get
• 14:36
  cancer.
• 14:37
  But
• 14:37
  that
• 14:37
  doesn't
• 14:37
  mean
• 14:38
  you
• 14:38
  won't.
• 14:38
  If
• 14:39
  you
• 14:39
  smoke
• 14:39
  every
• 14:39
  day,
• 14:40
  we
• 14:40
  still
• 14:40
  can't
• 14:41
  predict
• 14:41
  who
• 14:41
  will
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  won't
• 14:42
  get
• 14:42
  cancer.
• 14:43
  Excellent
• 14:44
  point
• 14:44
  because
• 14:44
  yeah,
• 14:45
  those
• 14:45
  people
• 14:45
  that
• 14:45
  made
• 14:45
  it
• 14:45
  to
• 14:46
  102
• 14:46
  and
• 14:46
  they've
• 14:47
  been
• 14:47
  smoking
• 14:47
  cigars
• 14:48
  their
• 14:48
  entire
• 14:49
  life
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  they're
• 14:50
  fine.
• 14:51
  Then
• 14:51
  you
• 14:51
  see
• 14:51
  the
• 14:51
  40
• 14:52
  year
• 14:52
  old
• 14:52
  with
• 14:52
  lung
• 14:52
  cancer
• 14:53
  and
• 14:53
  go,
• 14:54
  how
• 14:54
  did
• 14:54
  that
• 14:54
  work?
• 14:55
  And
• 14:55
  it's
• 14:55
  just
• 14:55
  depending
• 14:56
  on
• 14:56
  their
• 14:56
  body.
• 14:57
  Absolutely.
• 14:58
  It's
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  thing
• 14:58
  about
• 14:58
  body
• 14:59
  and
• 15:00
  just
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  luck
• 15:00
  or
• 15:01
  bad
• 15:01
  luck
• 15:01
  of
• 15:01
  where
• 15:01
  asbestos
• 15:02
  fibers
• 15:03
  embed
• 15:03
  themselves
• 15:04
  because
• 15:04
  you'll
• 15:04
  inhale
• 15:04
  the
• 15:05
  fiber
• 15:05
  or
• 15:05
  swallow
• 15:05
  it
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  it
• 15:06
  will
• 15:06
  embed
• 15:07
  and
• 15:07
  that
• 15:07
  will
• 15:07
  start
• 15:07
  causing
• 15:08
  scar
• 15:08
  tissue.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  maybe
• 15:10
  it
• 15:10
  causes
• 15:11
  enough
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  cause
• 15:11
  the
• 15:12
  reaction
• 15:12
  that
• 15:12
  turns
• 15:13
  into
• 15:13
  cancer,
• 15:14
  or
• 15:14
  maybe
• 15:14
  it
• 15:14
  doesn't
• 15:15
  and
• 15:15
  it's
• 15:16
  just
• 15:16
  like
• 15:16
  with
• 15:16
  any
• 15:16
  other
• 15:16
  carcinogen.
• 15:17
  You
• 15:17
  can
• 15:18
  never
• 15:18
  predict
• 15:18
  it.
• 15:19
  All
• 15:19
  you
• 15:19
  can
• 15:19
  predict
• 15:20
  is
• 15:20
  that
• 15:21
  every
• 15:21
  exposure
• 15:22
  that
• 15:22
  you
• 15:22
  have
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  asbestos
• 15:23
  raises
• 15:24
  your
• 15:24
  chances
• 15:25
  of
• 15:25
  developing
• 15:25
  cancer
• 15:26
  by
• 15:27
  some
• 15:27
  amount
• 15:27
  greater
• 15:27
  than
• 15:28
  zero.
• 15:28
  We
• 15:29
  can't
• 15:29
  be
• 15:29
  that
• 15:29
  much
• 15:29
  more
• 15:30
  precise.
• 15:30
  We
• 15:31
  know
• 15:31
  it
• 15:31
  is
• 15:31
  what
• 15:31
  they
• 15:32
  call
• 15:32
  a
• 15:32
  dose
• 15:32
  response
• 15:33
  disease
• 15:34
  is
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  more
• 15:34
  asbestos
• 15:35
  you're
• 15:35
  exposed
• 15:35
  to,
• 15:35
  the
• 15:36
  higher
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  dose,
• 15:37
  the
• 15:37
  more
• 15:37
  likely
• 15:38
  you're
• 15:38
  going
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  have
• 15:38
  response.
• 15:39
  But
• 15:39
  not
• 15:40
  everybody
• 15:40
  does.
• 15:41
  So
• 15:41
  it's
• 15:41
  really
• 15:42
  a
• 15:42
  gamble.
• 15:43
  Yeah.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:43
  this
• 15:44
  was
• 15:44
  in
• 15:44
  so
• 15:44
  many
• 15:44
  materials
• 15:45
  inside
• 15:45
  your
• 15:46
  home.
• 15:46
  And
• 15:46
  it's
• 15:47
  fascinating.
• 15:48
  People
• 15:48
  will
• 15:48
  sit
• 15:48
  there
• 15:49
  and
• 15:49
  of
• 15:49
  course
• 15:49
  they
• 15:49
  look
• 15:49
  at
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  floor
• 15:50
  and
• 15:50
  go,
• 15:50
  oh,
• 15:51
  nine
• 15:52
  by
• 15:52
  nine
• 15:52
  tiles.
• 15:53
  But
• 15:53
  not
• 15:53
  12
• 15:54
  inch
• 15:54
  tiles.
• 15:55
  And
• 15:55
  I'll
• 15:55
  be
• 15:55
  first
• 15:55
  to
• 15:55
  say
• 15:56
  I've
• 15:56
  tested
• 15:56
  12
• 15:56
  inch
• 15:57
  tiles
• 15:57
  that
• 15:57
  had
• 15:58
  the
• 15:58
  exact
• 15:58
  same
• 15:58
  asbestos
• 15:59
  levels
• 15:59
  as
• 15:59
  the
• 16:00
  nine
• 16:00
  by
• 16:00
  nines.
• 16:00
  Even
• 16:00
  though
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  nine
• 16:01
  by
• 16:01
  nines
• 16:01
  were
• 16:02
  in
• 16:02
  an
• 16:02
  era
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  it
• 16:03
  was
• 16:03
  widely
• 16:03
  used.
• 16:04
  Right.
• 16:05
  Asbestos
• 16:05
  was
• 16:06
  a
• 16:06
  real
• 16:06
  popular
• 16:06
  use
• 16:07
  as
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  filler
• 16:07
  in
• 16:08
  any
• 16:08
  kind
• 16:08
  of
• 16:08
  vinyl
• 16:09
  floor
• 16:09
  tiles.
• 16:10
  And
• 16:10
  asbestos
• 16:10
  comes
• 16:11
  in
• 16:11
  different
• 16:11
  grades,
• 16:12
  or
• 16:12
  it
• 16:12
  used
• 16:12
  to
• 16:12
  anyway,
• 16:13
  based
• 16:13
  on
• 16:13
  length.
• 16:14
  The
• 16:14
  shorter
• 16:15
  fibers
• 16:15
  were
• 16:16
  used
• 16:16
  for
• 16:16
  filler
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  it
• 16:17
  was
• 16:18
  dirt
• 16:18
  cheap.
• 16:18
  It
• 16:19
  was
• 16:19
  a
• 16:19
  couple
• 16:19
  hundred
• 16:19
  dollars
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  ton
• 16:20
  for
• 16:20
  this
• 16:20
  stuff.
• 16:21
  So
• 16:21
  they
• 16:22
  put
• 16:22
  it
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  do
• 16:22
  their
• 16:23
  stuff
• 16:23
  with
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  floor
• 16:24
  tiles
• 16:24
  and
• 16:24
  it
• 16:25
  makes
• 16:25
  a
• 16:25
  stronger,
• 16:26
  more
• 16:26
  fireproof
• 16:27
  product.
• 16:27
  But
• 16:28
  yeah,
• 16:28
  to
• 16:28
  think
• 16:28
  that
• 16:29
  it
• 16:29
  was
• 16:29
  only
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  nine
• 16:30
  by
• 16:30
  nine
• 16:30
  is
• 16:30
  definitely
• 16:31
  not.
• 16:31
  If
• 16:31
  it
• 16:31
  was
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  a
• 16:32
  vinyl
• 16:32
  floor
• 16:32
  tile,
• 16:33
  it
• 16:33
  could
• 16:33
  have
• 16:33
  been
• 16:33
  in
• 16:34
  there.
• 16:34
  And
• 16:34
  even
• 16:34
  if
• 16:34
  it
• 16:35
  wasn't
• 16:35
  in
• 16:35
  the
• 16:35
  tile,
• 16:36
  it
• 16:36
  probably
• 16:36
  was
• 16:36
  in
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  mastic
• 16:37
  underneath
• 16:38
  that
• 16:38
  they
• 16:38
  stuck
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  stuff
• 16:39
  down
• 16:39
  with
• 16:39
  because
• 16:39
  they
• 16:39
  put
• 16:40
  it
• 16:40
  in
• 16:40
  that
• 16:40
  too.
• 16:41
  So
• 16:41
  asbestos
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  in
• 16:42
  every
• 16:42
  portion
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  the
• 16:43
  house,
• 16:43
  was
• 16:44
  in
• 16:44
  your
• 16:44
  drywall,
• 16:44
  it
• 16:44
  was
• 16:45
  in
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  joint
• 16:45
  compound,
• 16:46
  could
• 16:46
  have
• 16:47
  been
• 16:47
  in
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  electrical
• 16:47
  wiring,
• 16:48
  almost
• 16:48
  certainly
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  panels.
• 16:50
  It
• 16:50
  was
• 16:50
  just.
• 16:50
  That's
• 16:51
  why
• 16:51
  they
• 16:51
  called
• 16:51
  it
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  magic
• 16:52
  mineral
• 16:52
  or
• 16:52
  a
• 16:52
  miracle
• 16:53
  mineral,
• 16:53
  because
• 16:53
  there's
• 16:53
  pretty
• 16:54
  much
• 16:54
  nothing
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  couldn't
• 16:55
  do
• 16:55
  with
• 16:55
  it.
• 16:56
  Yeah.
• 16:56
  I
• 16:56
  see
• 16:56
  so
• 16:56
  many
• 16:57
  people
• 16:57
  in
• 16:57
  there
• 16:57
  that
• 16:57
  are
• 16:58
  posting
• 16:58
  up
• 16:58
  on
• 16:58
  social
• 16:58
  media
• 16:59
  that
• 17:00
  I've
• 17:00
  got
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  black
• 17:01
  tar
• 17:01
  looking
• 17:02
  mastic
• 17:02
  and
• 17:02
  anybody's
• 17:03
  ever
• 17:03
  worked
• 17:03
  with
• 17:04
  it,
• 17:04
  they
• 17:04
  know
• 17:04
  exactly
• 17:04
  what
• 17:05
  I'm
• 17:05
  talking
• 17:05
  About
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  anytime
• 17:07
  I
• 17:07
  see
• 17:07
  that
• 17:07
  and
• 17:07
  I've
• 17:08
  tested
• 17:08
  it,
• 17:08
  I
• 17:09
  think
• 17:09
  I'm
• 17:09
  100%
• 17:10
  that
• 17:11
  I've
• 17:11
  run
• 17:11
  into
• 17:11
  that
• 17:11
  being
• 17:12
  asbestos
• 17:12
  containing
• 17:13
  material
• 17:13
  just
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  that
• 17:14
  era.
• 17:14
  That
• 17:14
  sounds
• 17:15
  about
• 17:15
  right.
• 17:15
  Yeah.
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  have,
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  have
• 17:16
  an
• 17:16
  acquaintance
• 17:17
  that
• 17:17
  he
• 17:18
  goes
• 17:18
  into
• 17:18
  condemned
• 17:19
  properties
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  surveys
• 17:20
  them
• 17:20
  for
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  city
• 17:21
  before
• 17:22
  they
• 17:22
  will
• 17:22
  tear
• 17:22
  them
• 17:23
  down
• 17:23
  to
• 17:23
  see
• 17:23
  what
• 17:23
  they
• 17:24
  can
• 17:24
  find.
• 17:25
  And
• 17:25
  they
• 17:25
  sent
• 17:25
  him
• 17:26
  in
• 17:26
  as
• 17:26
  he's
• 17:27
  like
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  fixer.
• 17:27
  He
• 17:27
  always
• 17:28
  finds
• 17:28
  asbestos.
• 17:29
  He
• 17:29
  knows
• 17:29
  where
• 17:29
  to
• 17:30
  look.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  he
• 17:30
  says
• 17:30
  if
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  other
• 17:31
  guys
• 17:31
  haven't
• 17:31
  found
• 17:31
  it,
• 17:31
  they're
• 17:32
  just
• 17:32
  not
• 17:32
  digging
• 17:32
  deep
• 17:33
  enough.
• 17:33
  As
• 17:33
  you
• 17:33
  mentioned,
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  mastic
• 17:35
  absolutely
• 17:35
  was
• 17:35
  a
• 17:36
  huge
• 17:36
  one.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:36
  people
• 17:36
  don't
• 17:37
  think
• 17:37
  about
• 17:37
  that.
• 17:38
  They
• 17:38
  used
• 17:39
  asbestos
• 17:39
  containing
• 17:40
  tape
• 17:40
  at
• 17:41
  some
• 17:41
  periods
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  time.
• 17:42
  Even
• 17:42
  duct
• 17:42
  tape
• 17:43
  had
• 17:43
  asbestos
• 17:43
  in
• 17:44
  it.
• 17:44
  Major
• 17:44
  paint
• 17:45
  companies
• 17:45
  mixed
• 17:46
  it
• 17:46
  in
• 17:46
  with
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  paint,
• 17:47
  so
• 17:47
  it's
• 17:47
  on
• 17:47
  your
• 17:47
  walls.
• 17:48
  It
• 17:48
  would
• 17:48
  have
• 17:48
  been
• 17:49
  really
• 17:49
  tough
• 17:49
  to
• 17:49
  go
• 17:49
  into
• 17:49
  a
• 17:50
  house
• 17:50
  built
• 17:50
  in
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  60s
• 17:51
  or
• 17:51
  70s
• 17:51
  and
• 17:52
  not
• 17:52
  have
• 17:52
  any
• 17:52
  asbestos
• 17:53
  in
• 17:53
  it.
• 17:53
  Just
• 17:53
  be
• 17:54
  incredibly
• 17:54
  tough.
• 17:55
  Yeah.
• 17:55
  My
• 17:55
  house
• 17:56
  built
• 17:57
  in
• 17:57
  77,
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  was
• 17:58
  surprised.
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  couldn't
• 18:00
  find
• 18:00
  it,
• 18:00
  but
• 18:00
  it
• 18:00
  was
• 18:00
  a
• 18:00
  unicorn.
• 18:01
  And
• 18:02
  a
• 18:02
  lot
• 18:02
  of
• 18:02
  that
• 18:02
  was
• 18:02
  because
• 18:03
  I
• 18:03
  had
• 18:03
  hardwood
• 18:04
  floors
• 18:04
  everywhere.
• 18:05
  You
• 18:05
  know
• 18:05
  what
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  mean?
• 18:05
  There
• 18:05
  was
• 18:06
  not
• 18:06
  any.
• 18:06
  And
• 18:07
  there
• 18:07
  had
• 18:07
  been
• 18:08
  remodels
• 18:08
  in
• 18:08
  the
• 18:09
  past,
• 18:09
  but
• 18:09
  there
• 18:09
  was
• 18:09
  not
• 18:10
  any
• 18:10
  vinyl
• 18:11
  anywhere
• 18:11
  in
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  house.
• 18:12
  So,
• 18:12
  you
• 18:13
  know,
• 18:13
  that
• 18:13
  basically
• 18:13
  left
• 18:14
  wall
• 18:14
  textures.
• 18:14
  And
• 18:15
  when
• 18:15
  I
• 18:15
  tested
• 18:16
  my
• 18:16
  house
• 18:16
  on
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  wall
• 18:16
  textures,
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  had
• 18:17
  popcorn
• 18:18
  ceilings.
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  tested
• 18:19
  in
• 18:20
  nine
• 18:20
  different
• 18:20
  spots
• 18:20
  and
• 18:21
  couldn't
• 18:21
  find
• 18:21
  it.
• 18:21
  But
• 18:21
  I
• 18:22
  see
• 18:22
  so
• 18:22
  many
• 18:22
  times
• 18:22
  people
• 18:23
  go
• 18:23
  in
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  go,
• 18:24
  oh
• 18:24
  yeah,
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  went
• 18:24
  in
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  closet
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  cut
• 18:25
  out
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  piece,
• 18:26
  sent
• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  to
• 18:26
  the
• 18:26
  lab,
• 18:27
  and
• 18:28
  we
• 18:28
  were
• 18:29
  good
• 18:29
  to
• 18:29
  go.
• 18:29
  But
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  think
• 18:31
  you
• 18:31
  should
• 18:31
  be
• 18:31
  testing
• 18:32
  all
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  different
• 18:32
  locations
• 18:33
  around
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  house.
• 18:34
  So
• 18:35
  maybe
• 18:35
  one,
• 18:36
  maybe
• 18:36
  that
• 18:36
  area
• 18:36
  was
• 18:37
  repaired
• 18:37
  25
• 18:38
  years
• 18:38
  ago
• 18:38
  with
• 18:39
  a
• 18:39
  newer
• 18:39
  product.
• 18:41
  And
• 18:41
  you
• 18:41
  have
• 18:41
  no
• 18:42
  idea.
• 18:43
  And
• 18:43
  even
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  testing
• 18:44
  labs
• 18:45
  will
• 18:45
  tell
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  that
• 18:46
  just
• 18:46
  because
• 18:46
  this
• 18:47
  section
• 18:47
  here
• 18:47
  doesn't
• 18:48
  have
• 18:48
  asbestos,
• 18:48
  doesn't
• 18:49
  mean
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  one
• 18:49
  next
• 18:49
  to
• 18:50
  it
• 18:50
  does
• 18:50
  or
• 18:51
  doesn't.
• 18:51
  Because
• 18:51
  asbestos
• 18:52
  would
• 18:52
  be
• 18:52
  mixed
• 18:53
  in
• 18:53
  random
• 18:53
  patterns
• 18:54
  throughout
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  things.
• 18:55
  So
• 18:55
  the,
• 18:55
  the
• 18:56
  concentrations
• 18:56
  will
• 18:56
  differ
• 18:57
  from
• 18:57
  one
• 18:57
  area
• 18:57
  to
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  other.
• 18:59
  In
• 18:59
  addition
• 18:59
  to
• 18:59
  that,
• 19:00
  there's
• 19:00
  also
• 19:00
  contamination.
• 19:01
  So
• 19:01
  even
• 19:01
  if
• 19:01
  the
• 19:02
  house
• 19:02
  wasn't
• 19:03
  supposed
• 19:03
  to
• 19:04
  have
• 19:04
  asbestos
• 19:04
  in
• 19:04
  it,
• 19:05
  asbestos
• 19:06
  is
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  contaminant
• 19:07
  of
• 19:07
  other
• 19:07
  minerals
• 19:07
  that
• 19:07
  will
• 19:08
  get
• 19:08
  in
• 19:08
  there.
• 19:08
  Like
• 19:09
  one
• 19:09
  of
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  big
• 19:09
  ones
• 19:09
  is
• 19:09
  talc.
• 19:10
  Cosmetic
• 19:10
  talc,
• 19:11
  you
• 19:11
  may
• 19:11
  have
• 19:11
  heard,
• 19:11
  can
• 19:11
  have
• 19:12
  asbestos
• 19:12
  in
• 19:12
  there.
• 19:13
  So
• 19:13
  could,
• 19:13
  you
• 19:13
  know,
• 19:14
  gypsum
• 19:14
  if
• 19:14
  you
• 19:14
  have
• 19:14
  drywall
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  wasn't
• 19:16
  supposed
• 19:16
  to
• 19:16
  have
• 19:16
  asbestos,
• 19:17
  if
• 19:17
  a
• 19:17
  vein
• 19:17
  of
• 19:18
  asbestos
• 19:18
  was
• 19:18
  running
• 19:18
  through
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  gypsum.
• 19:19
  Now
• 19:19
  there's
• 19:20
  some
• 19:20
  Asbestos
• 19:20
  in
• 19:20
  your
• 19:21
  gypsum.
• 19:22
  Oh.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:23
  of
• 19:23
  course,
• 19:23
  we
• 19:23
  all
• 19:24
  have
• 19:24
  heard
• 19:24
  about,
• 19:24
  or
• 19:25
  many
• 19:25
  people
• 19:25
  have
• 19:25
  at
• 19:26
  least
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  problem
• 19:27
  with
• 19:27
  vermiculite
• 19:28
  was
• 19:28
  an
• 19:28
  insulation
• 19:28
  that
• 19:29
  was
• 19:29
  coming
• 19:29
  out
• 19:29
  of
• 19:30
  what,
• 19:30
  like
• 19:30
  Louis,
• 19:30
  Montana
• 19:31
  if
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  remember
• 19:32
  right.
• 19:32
  And
• 19:32
  that
• 19:32
  had
• 19:33
  that
• 19:33
  same
• 19:33
  issue.
• 19:34
  Absolutely.
• 19:35
  It
• 19:35
  was
• 19:35
  contaminated
• 19:36
  with
• 19:36
  a
• 19:36
  variety
• 19:37
  typically
• 19:37
  called
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  tremolite
• 19:38
  was
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  biggest
• 19:39
  one.
• 19:39
  There's
• 19:39
  six
• 19:40
  kinds
• 19:40
  of
• 19:40
  asbestos.
• 19:41
  The
• 19:41
  tremolite
• 19:42
  wasn't
• 19:42
  supposed
• 19:43
  to
• 19:43
  be
• 19:43
  in
• 19:43
  the
• 19:43
  vermiculite,
• 19:44
  it
• 19:45
  just
• 19:45
  was.
• 19:46
  And
• 19:46
  the
• 19:46
  analogy
• 19:47
  that
• 19:47
  I
• 19:47
  kind
• 19:47
  of
• 19:47
  use
• 19:48
  is
• 19:48
  if
• 19:48
  you
• 19:48
  take
• 19:49
  a
• 19:49
  bowl
• 19:49
  full
• 19:49
  of
• 19:49
  sugar
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  pour
• 19:50
  a
• 19:50
  salt
• 19:51
  shaker
• 19:51
  in
• 19:51
  it,
• 19:51
  it
• 19:51
  and
• 19:52
  shake
• 19:52
  it
• 19:52
  up,
• 19:52
  you're
• 19:53
  never
• 19:53
  getting
• 19:53
  all
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  the
• 19:54
  salt
• 19:54
  out
• 19:54
  of
• 19:54
  that
• 19:54
  sugar.
• 19:55
  It's
• 19:55
  just
• 19:55
  not
• 19:55
  possible.
• 19:56
  So
• 19:57
  that's
• 19:57
  what
• 19:57
  ends
• 19:57
  up
• 19:57
  small
• 19:58
  amounts
• 19:58
  of
• 19:58
  contaminants.
• 19:59
  I
• 19:59
  remember,
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  don't
• 20:00
  know,
• 20:01
  seven
• 20:01
  or
• 20:01
  eight
• 20:01
  years
• 20:01
  ago
• 20:02
  there
• 20:02
  was
• 20:02
  like
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  holiday
• 20:03
  CSI
• 20:04
  branded
• 20:05
  fingerprint
• 20:05
  kit
• 20:05
  to
• 20:06
  get
• 20:06
  your
• 20:06
  kid
• 20:06
  for
• 20:06
  Christmas
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  dunk
• 20:07
  dust
• 20:07
  for
• 20:07
  prints
• 20:08
  and
• 20:08
  play
• 20:08
  little
• 20:08
  detective.
• 20:09
  It
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  contaminated
• 20:10
  with
• 20:11
  asbestos.
• 20:11
  So
• 20:11
  you're
• 20:12
  taking
• 20:12
  a
• 20:12
  powdery
• 20:12
  substance,
• 20:13
  giving
• 20:13
  it
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  your
• 20:14
  child
• 20:14
  and
• 20:14
  they're
• 20:14
  spraying
• 20:15
  it
• 20:15
  all
• 20:15
  over.
• 20:15
  And
• 20:16
  it's
• 20:16
  just,
• 20:17
  it's
• 20:17
  terrible.
• 20:17
  It's
• 20:18
  still
• 20:18
  out
• 20:18
  there
• 20:18
  even
• 20:18
  when
• 20:19
  it's
• 20:19
  not
• 20:19
  supposed
• 20:19
  to
• 20:19
  be.
• 20:20
  Yeah.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:21
  that's
• 20:21
  just
• 20:21
  absolutely
• 20:22
  insane.
• 20:22
  And
• 20:22
  there's
• 20:23
  really
• 20:23
  no
• 20:23
  recourse
• 20:24
  for
• 20:24
  homeowners
• 20:24
  out
• 20:25
  there
• 20:25
  because
• 20:26
  it's
• 20:26
  not
• 20:26
  like
• 20:26
  you
• 20:26
  can
• 20:27
  just
• 20:27
  go
• 20:27
  sue
• 20:27
  one
• 20:27
  company
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  say,
• 20:28
  hey,
• 20:28
  I've
• 20:29
  got
• 20:29
  this
• 20:29
  dangerous
• 20:29
  product
• 20:30
  on
• 20:30
  my
• 20:30
  house
• 20:30
  and
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  want
• 20:31
  you
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  fix
• 20:32
  it.
• 20:32
  The
• 20:32
  homeowners
• 20:33
  now
• 20:33
  have
• 20:33
  to
• 20:33
  deal
• 20:33
  with
• 20:34
  this
• 20:34
  on
• 20:34
  a
• 20:34
  case
• 20:34
  by
• 20:34
  case
• 20:35
  basis.
• 20:36
  And
• 20:36
  really
• 20:36
  it
• 20:36
  seems
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  your
• 20:37
  first
• 20:37
  line
• 20:38
  of
• 20:38
  defense
• 20:38
  with
• 20:38
  that
• 20:38
  is
• 20:39
  going
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  be
• 20:39
  testing
• 20:39
  the
• 20:39
  project
• 20:40
  before
• 20:40
  you
• 20:40
  even
• 20:40
  start.
• 20:41
  For
• 20:41
  sure,
• 20:41
  getting
• 20:42
  it
• 20:42
  tested
• 20:42
  is
• 20:42
  your
• 20:42
  best
• 20:43
  bet.
• 20:44
  Many,
• 20:44
  if
• 20:44
  not
• 20:44
  most
• 20:45
  of
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  companies
• 20:45
  that
• 20:45
  made
• 20:46
  asbestos
• 20:46
  products
• 20:47
  like
• 20:47
  floor
• 20:47
  tile,
• 20:47
  things
• 20:48
  like
• 20:48
  that,
• 20:48
  they
• 20:49
  ended
• 20:49
  up
• 20:49
  filing
• 20:49
  bankruptcy
• 20:50
  after
• 20:50
  all
• 20:50
  of
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  lawsuits
• 20:51
  when
• 20:52
  people
• 20:52
  were
• 20:52
  really
• 20:52
  getting
• 20:52
  sick.
• 20:53
  So
• 20:54
  there
• 20:54
  isn't
• 20:54
  any
• 20:54
  real
• 20:55
  recourse
• 20:55
  against
• 20:56
  those
• 20:56
  manufacturers
• 20:57
  at
• 20:57
  all.
• 20:58
  The
• 20:58
  recourse
• 20:59
  that
• 20:59
  there
• 20:59
  is
• 20:59
  would
• 20:59
  be
• 21:00
  against
• 21:00
  contractors
• 21:01
  and
• 21:01
  vendors
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  are
• 21:02
  not
• 21:03
  following
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  rules.
• 21:04
  And
• 21:04
  that's
• 21:05
  something
• 21:05
  for
• 21:05
  people
• 21:06
  who,
• 21:06
  if
• 21:06
  you're
• 21:06
  commercially
• 21:07
  doing
• 21:07
  remodeling
• 21:07
  and
• 21:08
  stuff,
• 21:08
  you
• 21:08
  could
• 21:08
  be
• 21:08
  on
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  hook
• 21:09
  for
• 21:09
  that.
• 21:10
  So
• 21:10
  definitely
• 21:11
  dot
• 21:11
  your
• 21:11
  I's
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  cross
• 21:12
  your
• 21:12
  t's
• 21:12
  and
• 21:13
  don't
• 21:13
  cheap
• 21:14
  out
• 21:14
  on
• 21:14
  it.
• 21:14
  If
• 21:14
  not
• 21:14
  for
• 21:15
  your
• 21:15
  own
• 21:15
  health,
• 21:15
  but
• 21:16
  for
• 21:16
  the
• 21:16
  financial
• 21:16
  health
• 21:17
  of
• 21:17
  your
• 21:17
  business,
• 21:17
  you
• 21:17
  don't
• 21:18
  want
• 21:18
  that
• 21:18
  to
• 21:18
  happen
• 21:18
  either.
• 21:19
  Yeah,
• 21:20
  you
• 21:20
  would
• 21:20
  not
• 21:20
  want
• 21:20
  to
• 21:21
  have
• 21:21
  that
• 21:21
  lawsuit
• 21:21
  come
• 21:21
  up
• 21:22
  against
• 21:22
  you
• 21:22
  as
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  contractor
• 21:23
  because
• 21:23
  somebody
• 21:24
  gets
• 21:24
  sick
• 21:24
  and
• 21:25
  Guess
• 21:25
  what?
• 21:25
  The
• 21:26
  only
• 21:26
  known
• 21:26
  exposure
• 21:27
  is
• 21:27
  on
• 21:27
  your
• 21:27
  job
• 21:27
  site
• 21:27
  that
• 21:28
  they
• 21:28
  had
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  few
• 21:28
  years
• 21:28
  ago.
• 21:29
  And
• 21:29
  all
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  a
• 21:29
  sudden
• 21:30
  they've
• 21:30
  got
• 21:30
  an
• 21:30
  issue.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:31
  I
• 21:32
  really
• 21:32
  see
• 21:32
  so
• 21:33
  many
• 21:33
  problems
• 21:33
  like
• 21:33
  that.
• 21:34
  I've
• 21:34
  run
• 21:34
  into
• 21:34
  it
• 21:34
  in
• 21:34
  my
• 21:35
  35
• 21:35
  years
• 21:35
  of
• 21:36
  design
• 21:36
  and
• 21:37
  construction
• 21:37
  where
• 21:37
  I
• 21:38
  walk
• 21:38
  into
• 21:38
  somebody's
• 21:38
  job
• 21:39
  site
• 21:39
  that's
• 21:40
  getting
• 21:40
  ready
• 21:40
  to
• 21:41
  order
• 21:41
  cabinetry
• 21:42
  or
• 21:42
  something
• 21:42
  like
• 21:42
  that,
• 21:42
  and
• 21:42
  I
• 21:43
  can
• 21:43
  see
• 21:43
  the
• 21:43
  tar
• 21:43
  on
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  floor.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:44
  I'm
• 21:44
  like,
• 21:45
  huh,
• 21:45
  what
• 21:46
  happened
• 21:46
  here?
• 21:46
  And
• 21:46
  they're
• 21:46
  like,
• 21:46
  oh,
• 21:47
  yeah,
• 21:47
  we
• 21:47
  just
• 21:47
  did.
• 21:47
  Homeowners
• 21:48
  did
• 21:48
  demo
• 21:48
  last
• 21:49
  weekend.
• 21:50
  And.
• 21:50
  And
• 21:51
  it's
• 21:51
  tough.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:52
  I
• 21:53
  think
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  issue
• 21:53
  is
• 21:54
  that
• 21:54
  people
• 21:54
  get
• 21:55
  so
• 21:55
  scared
• 21:55
  of
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  word
• 21:56
  and
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  abatement
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  what
• 21:58
  it's
• 21:58
  going
• 21:58
  to
• 21:59
  cost.
• 21:59
  The
• 22:00
  fines
• 22:00
  are
• 22:00
  so
• 22:01
  much
• 22:01
  bigger
• 22:01
  in
• 22:01
  many
• 22:01
  areas
• 22:02
  than
• 22:02
  what
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  cost
• 22:03
  is.
• 22:03
  So
• 22:03
  your.
• 22:03
  Your
• 22:04
  best
• 22:04
  move
• 22:05
  for
• 22:05
  you,
• 22:05
  your
• 22:06
  home
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  your
• 22:06
  health.
• 22:07
  And.
• 22:07
  And
• 22:07
  for
• 22:08
  a
• 22:08
  future
• 22:08
  homeowner
• 22:08
  that
• 22:09
  maybe
• 22:09
  is
• 22:09
  buying
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  house
• 22:10
  to
• 22:10
  have
• 22:11
  all
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  paperwork
• 22:11
  to
• 22:12
  go,
• 22:12
  hey,
• 22:12
  look,
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  did
• 22:12
  this
• 22:13
  right.
• 22:13
  It
• 22:13
  was
• 22:13
  tested,
• 22:14
  it
• 22:14
  was
• 22:14
  abated,
• 22:15
  it
• 22:15
  was
• 22:15
  tested
• 22:15
  again.
• 22:16
  Here
• 22:16
  we
• 22:16
  go.
• 22:17
  Versus
• 22:19
  somebody
• 22:19
  poking
• 22:19
  around
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  taking
• 22:20
  a
• 22:20
  look
• 22:20
  at
• 22:20
  it
• 22:21
  and
• 22:21
  wondering
• 22:22
  what
• 22:22
  went
• 22:22
  wrong
• 22:22
  in
• 22:23
  this
• 22:23
  house.
• 22:23
  And
• 22:23
  then
• 22:24
  trying
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  clean
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  house
• 22:25
  up
• 22:25
  afterwards
• 22:25
  has
• 22:25
  got
• 22:26
  to
• 22:26
  be
• 22:26
  expensive.
• 22:27
  Oh,
• 22:27
  for
• 22:27
  sure.
• 22:28
  Yeah.
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  mean,
• 22:28
  it's.
• 22:29
  Those
• 22:29
  fibers
• 22:29
  are
• 22:29
  so
• 22:30
  small,
• 22:30
  they
• 22:30
  can
• 22:30
  get
• 22:30
  into
• 22:31
  anything.
• 22:31
  And
• 22:32
  another
• 22:32
  issue
• 22:32
  too
• 22:32
  is
• 22:33
  we
• 22:33
  represent
• 22:33
  a
• 22:33
  lot
• 22:34
  of
• 22:34
  people
• 22:34
  that
• 22:35
  worked
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  like,
• 22:35
  refineries
• 22:36
  or
• 22:37
  places
• 22:37
  where
• 22:37
  they
• 22:37
  use
• 22:37
  tons
• 22:38
  of
• 22:38
  asbestos.
• 22:39
  They
• 22:39
  also
• 22:39
  brought
• 22:40
  asbestos
• 22:40
  from
• 22:40
  work
• 22:41
  home
• 22:41
  on
• 22:41
  their
• 22:41
  clothes.
• 22:42
  So
• 22:43
  even
• 22:43
  if
• 22:44
  they're
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  housing,
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  material
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  house
• 22:46
  was
• 22:46
  built
• 22:46
  with
• 22:46
  didn't
• 22:47
  have
• 22:47
  much
• 22:47
  asbestos
• 22:47
  or
• 22:48
  it
• 22:48
  hasn't
• 22:48
  gotten
• 22:48
  out
• 22:48
  there.
• 22:49
  They
• 22:49
  could
• 22:49
  be
• 22:49
  bringing
• 22:49
  it
• 22:50
  into
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  house
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  it's
• 22:50
  just
• 22:51
  floating
• 22:51
  around,
• 22:52
  circulating
• 22:52
  in
• 22:52
  the
• 22:53
  air
• 22:53
  ducts
• 22:53
  and
• 22:54
  settles
• 22:54
  down.
• 22:54
  And
• 22:54
  then
• 22:54
  the
• 22:55
  AC
• 22:55
  kicks
• 22:55
  back
• 22:56
  on
• 22:56
  and
• 22:56
  then
• 22:56
  it's
• 22:57
  blowing
• 22:57
  around.
• 22:58
  So
• 22:58
  you
• 22:58
  have
• 22:58
  to
• 22:59
  check
• 22:59
  everywhere,
• 22:59
  not
• 23:00
  just
• 23:00
  for
• 23:00
  what
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  house
• 23:00
  was
• 23:01
  built
• 23:01
  with,
• 23:01
  but
• 23:02
  if
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  guy
• 23:02
  who
• 23:02
  lived
• 23:02
  there
• 23:03
  before
• 23:03
  was
• 23:03
  an
• 23:03
  insulator,
• 23:04
  guaranteed
• 23:04
  he
• 23:05
  brought
• 23:05
  that
• 23:05
  stuff
• 23:05
  home.
• 23:05
  You
• 23:06
  just
• 23:06
  don't
• 23:06
  know.
• 23:07
  So
• 23:07
  you'd
• 23:07
  have
• 23:07
  to
• 23:07
  do
• 23:07
  your
• 23:07
  air
• 23:08
  sampling
• 23:08
  and
• 23:08
  all
• 23:08
  those
• 23:08
  kinds
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  things.
• 23:09
  Basically,
• 23:10
  the
• 23:10
  older
• 23:10
  the
• 23:11
  home
• 23:11
  is,
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  more
• 23:11
  likely
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  there
• 23:12
  could
• 23:12
  be
• 23:12
  some
• 23:12
  issues.
• 23:13
  And
• 23:13
  if
• 23:13
  you're
• 23:13
  in
• 23:14
  an
• 23:14
  area
• 23:14
  where
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  house
• 23:15
  is
• 23:15
  near
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  refinery,
• 23:16
  maybe
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  guy
• 23:17
  who
• 23:17
  worked
• 23:17
  there
• 23:17
  at
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  refinery,
• 23:18
  something
• 23:18
  else
• 23:19
  just
• 23:19
  to
• 23:19
  think
• 23:19
  about.
• 23:20
  When
• 23:20
  you
• 23:21
  think
• 23:21
  about
• 23:21
  it,
• 23:21
  those
• 23:21
  clothes
• 23:22
  go
• 23:22
  in
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  wash,
• 23:23
  maybe
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  towels
• 23:24
  or
• 23:24
  whatever
• 23:24
  are
• 23:25
  pulled
• 23:25
  together
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  thrown
• 23:26
  in
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  wash
• 23:26
  together.
• 23:27
  Now
• 23:27
  you've
• 23:27
  got
• 23:27
  that
• 23:28
  potential
• 23:28
  cross
• 23:28
  contamination,
• 23:29
  and
• 23:29
  you're
• 23:29
  hoping
• 23:30
  that
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  dryer
• 23:31
  took
• 23:31
  stuff
• 23:31
  out
• 23:31
  but
• 23:32
  it
• 23:32
  seems
• 23:32
  like
• 23:32
  that
• 23:33
  stuff's
• 23:33
  sticky
• 23:33
  enough
• 23:33
  that
• 23:34
  it
• 23:34
  could
• 23:34
  stick
• 23:34
  around
• 23:35
  for
• 23:35
  sure.
• 23:36
  And
• 23:36
  most
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  the
• 23:37
  clients
• 23:37
  that
• 23:37
  we
• 23:38
  have
• 23:38
  who
• 23:38
  remember
• 23:38
  talking
• 23:39
  about
• 23:39
  or
• 23:39
  remember
• 23:40
  washing
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  clothes,
• 23:41
  they
• 23:41
  would
• 23:41
  try
• 23:41
  to
• 23:42
  shake
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  stuff
• 23:42
  off.
• 23:43
  Because
• 23:43
  if
• 23:43
  it's.
• 23:43
  Even
• 23:43
  if
• 23:43
  you
• 23:44
  just
• 23:44
  have
• 23:44
  a
• 23:44
  pair
• 23:44
  of
• 23:44
  pants
• 23:45
  that's
• 23:45
  dusty,
• 23:45
  you
• 23:46
  don't
• 23:46
  just
• 23:46
  take
• 23:46
  them
• 23:46
  covered
• 23:47
  in
• 23:47
  dust
• 23:47
  and
• 23:47
  throw
• 23:47
  them
• 23:47
  in
• 23:48
  the
• 23:48
  washer.
• 23:48
  You
• 23:48
  try
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  get
• 23:49
  some
• 23:49
  of
• 23:49
  that
• 23:49
  dust
• 23:49
  off.
• 23:50
  Right.
• 23:50
  A
• 23:51
  lot
• 23:51
  of
• 23:51
  those
• 23:51
  older
• 23:51
  homes,
• 23:52
  they
• 23:52
  had
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  laundry
• 23:53
  area
• 23:54
  in
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  kitchen.
• 23:55
  So
• 23:55
  you've
• 23:56
  got
• 23:56
  this
• 23:56
  terrible
• 23:57
  situation
• 23:57
  where
• 23:58
  typically
• 23:58
  mom
• 23:59
  is
• 23:59
  doing
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  laundry
• 24:00
  in
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  kitchen,
• 24:01
  shaking
• 24:01
  the
• 24:02
  dust,
• 24:02
  and
• 24:03
  then
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  kids
• 24:03
  are
• 24:03
  down
• 24:04
  playing
• 24:04
  on
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  floor,
• 24:05
  as
• 24:05
  kids
• 24:05
  do,
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  dust
• 24:06
  settles
• 24:07
  down
• 24:07
  more
• 24:07
  into
• 24:07
  their
• 24:08
  zone
• 24:08
  of
• 24:08
  breathing.
• 24:09
  And
• 24:09
  these
• 24:09
  kids
• 24:09
  are
• 24:10
  getting
• 24:10
  super
• 24:10
  high
• 24:11
  doses
• 24:11
  of
• 24:11
  asbestos
• 24:12
  from
• 24:12
  that.
• 24:12
  It's
• 24:13
  just.
• 24:13
  It's
• 24:13
  a
• 24:13
  tragedy
• 24:14
  up
• 24:14
  and
• 24:14
  down
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  ladder.
• 24:14
  Nowhere,
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  know,
• 24:15
  where
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  look
• 24:16
  at
• 24:16
  it.
• 24:16
  No
• 24:16
  kidding.
• 24:17
  So
• 24:17
  what
• 24:18
  are
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  seeing
• 24:18
  out
• 24:18
  there
• 24:19
  as
• 24:19
  far
• 24:19
  as
• 24:19
  the
• 24:20
  litigation
• 24:20
  out
• 24:20
  there
• 24:21
  across
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  board?
• 24:21
  Is
• 24:22
  it
• 24:22
  mostly
• 24:23
  workers
• 24:23
  against
• 24:24
  companies,
• 24:25
  or
• 24:25
  is
• 24:25
  it
• 24:25
  all
• 24:26
  across
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  board?
• 24:26
  What's
• 24:27
  it
• 24:27
  look
• 24:27
  like
• 24:27
  these
• 24:28
  days?
• 24:29
  The
• 24:29
  thing
• 24:29
  that
• 24:29
  for
• 24:29
  us
• 24:30
  has
• 24:30
  been
• 24:30
  newer
• 24:30
  is
• 24:31
  we're
• 24:31
  getting
• 24:31
  more
• 24:31
  of
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  children
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  the
• 24:33
  asbestos
• 24:33
  workers
• 24:33
  because
• 24:34
  they
• 24:34
  did
• 24:35
  start
• 24:35
  phasing
• 24:35
  it
• 24:35
  out
• 24:35
  heavily
• 24:36
  in
• 24:36
  the
• 24:36
  70s.
• 24:37
  So
• 24:37
  at
• 24:37
  some
• 24:38
  point,
• 24:38
  there
• 24:39
  won't
• 24:39
  be
• 24:39
  anybody
• 24:39
  alive
• 24:40
  who
• 24:40
  worked
• 24:41
  directly
• 24:41
  with
• 24:41
  asbestos
• 24:42
  themselves,
• 24:43
  but
• 24:43
  their
• 24:43
  kids
• 24:44
  were
• 24:44
  brought
• 24:44
  home
• 24:44
  with
• 24:44
  it.
• 24:45
  And
• 24:45
  the
• 24:46
  thing
• 24:46
  that
• 24:46
  we're
• 24:46
  seeing
• 24:46
  is
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  children
• 24:48
  often
• 24:48
  have
• 24:48
  worse
• 24:49
  lung
• 24:49
  damage
• 24:49
  than
• 24:50
  their
• 24:50
  parents
• 24:50
  do,
• 24:51
  because
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  way
• 24:52
  children's
• 24:53
  lungs
• 24:53
  are,
• 24:53
  they're
• 24:53
  smaller,
• 24:54
  and
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  asbestos
• 24:55
  particles
• 24:55
  can
• 24:55
  do
• 24:56
  more
• 24:56
  damage.
• 24:57
  So
• 24:57
  we're
• 24:57
  getting
• 24:57
  some
• 24:58
  of
• 24:58
  those
• 24:58
  cases.
• 24:59
  There's
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  lot
• 24:59
  more
• 24:59
  of
• 24:59
  the.
• 25:00
  We
• 25:00
  call
• 25:00
  them
• 25:00
  households.
• 25:01
  It's
• 25:01
  typically
• 25:01
  a
• 25:02
  wife,
• 25:02
  but
• 25:02
  sometimes
• 25:02
  with
• 25:03
  a
• 25:03
  house
• 25:03
  husband
• 25:03
  doing
• 25:03
  the
• 25:04
  laundry.
• 25:04
  But
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  biggest
• 25:05
  difference
• 25:06
  is
• 25:06
  we're
• 25:06
  seeing
• 25:07
  either
• 25:07
  really
• 25:07
  young
• 25:08
  clients
• 25:08
  or
• 25:08
  really
• 25:09
  old
• 25:09
  clients.
• 25:09
  It
• 25:10
  seems
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  be
• 25:10
  how
• 25:10
  it
• 25:11
  shakes
• 25:11
  out.
• 25:12
  And
• 25:12
  again,
• 25:12
  because
• 25:12
  of
• 25:13
  the
• 25:13
  latency,
• 25:14
  anybody
• 25:14
  who's
• 25:14
  exposed,
• 25:15
  no
• 25:15
  matter
• 25:15
  what
• 25:15
  you
• 25:15
  do
• 25:16
  with
• 25:16
  asbestos
• 25:16
  today,
• 25:17
  it's
• 25:17
  going
• 25:17
  to
• 25:17
  be
• 25:18
  at
• 25:18
  least
• 25:18
  a
• 25:18
  decade,
• 25:18
  probably
• 25:19
  several,
• 25:19
  before
• 25:20
  people
• 25:20
  get
• 25:20
  sick.
• 25:21
  So
• 25:21
  that
• 25:21
  makes
• 25:22
  things.
• 25:23
  Yeah,
• 25:23
  it's
• 25:23
  difficult.
• 25:23
  We
• 25:24
  have
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  do
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  lot
• 25:24
  of
• 25:24
  detective
• 25:25
  work
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  figure
• 25:26
  out,
• 25:27
  where
• 25:27
  did
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  work,
• 25:27
  what
• 25:28
  school
• 25:28
  did
• 25:28
  you
• 25:28
  go
• 25:28
  to,
• 25:29
  what
• 25:29
  did
• 25:29
  your
• 25:29
  mom
• 25:29
  and
• 25:29
  dad
• 25:30
  do?
• 25:30
  And
• 25:30
  try
• 25:30
  to
• 25:30
  find
• 25:31
  every
• 25:32
  source.
• 25:33
  Because
• 25:33
  so
• 25:33
  many
• 25:34
  asbestos
• 25:34
  companies
• 25:35
  have
• 25:35
  either
• 25:36
  completely
• 25:36
  gone
• 25:36
  out
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  business
• 25:37
  or
• 25:37
  set
• 25:38
  up
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  trust
• 25:38
  to
• 25:38
  handle
• 25:39
  the
• 25:39
  claims.
• 25:40
  It's
• 25:40
  harder
• 25:40
  and
• 25:40
  harder
• 25:41
  to
• 25:41
  find
• 25:41
  the
• 25:42
  companies
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  you
• 25:42
  can
• 25:42
  still
• 25:43
  sue.
• 25:43
  And
• 25:44
  typically,
• 25:44
  you're
• 25:44
  going
• 25:45
  after
• 25:46
  companies
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  integrated
• 25:47
  asbestos
• 25:48
  into
• 25:48
  other
• 25:48
  products.
• 25:49
  They
• 25:49
  Made
• 25:49
  for
• 25:50
  an
• 25:50
  example,
• 25:50
  a
• 25:51
  boiler
• 25:51
  company
• 25:52
  didn't
• 25:52
  make
• 25:52
  asbestos,
• 25:53
  but
• 25:53
  they
• 25:53
  insulated
• 25:54
  it
• 25:54
  with
• 25:54
  it
• 25:55
  or
• 25:55
  they
• 25:55
  knew
• 25:55
  you
• 25:55
  were
• 25:56
  going
• 25:56
  to
• 25:56
  insulate
• 25:56
  it
• 25:56
  and
• 25:57
  they
• 25:57
  didn't
• 25:57
  warn
• 25:57
  you.
• 25:58
  So
• 25:58
  you're
• 25:58
  going
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  little
• 25:59
  more
• 25:59
  up
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  chain
• 25:59
  as
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  levels
• 26:00
  of
• 26:01
  responsibility.
• 26:02
  Yeah,
• 26:02
  that
• 26:02
  makes
• 26:03
  sense.
• 26:03
  And
• 26:03
  that
• 26:03
  makes
• 26:03
  sense.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  can
• 26:04
  just
• 26:05
  imagine
• 26:06
  that
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  kids
• 26:07
  that
• 26:07
  all
• 26:07
  of
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  sudden
• 26:08
  now
• 26:08
  they've
• 26:08
  got
• 26:08
  that
• 26:08
  stuff
• 26:09
  in
• 26:09
  their,
• 26:09
  in
• 26:10
  their
• 26:10
  lungs
• 26:10
  for
• 26:11
  50
• 26:11
  years,
• 26:11
  let's
• 26:12
  say,
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  damage
• 26:12
  that
• 26:12
  does
• 26:13
  versus
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  adult
• 26:14
  that
• 26:14
  maybe
• 26:14
  had
• 26:14
  it
• 26:14
  in
• 26:15
  there
• 26:15
  for
• 26:15
  20
• 26:15
  or
• 26:15
  25.
• 26:16
  Yeah,
• 26:17
  exactly.
• 26:18
  The
• 26:18
  longer
• 26:19
  that
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  have
• 26:19
  asbestos
• 26:20
  in
• 26:20
  your
• 26:20
  lungs,
• 26:20
  the
• 26:21
  more
• 26:21
  likely
• 26:21
  you
• 26:21
  are
• 26:21
  to
• 26:22
  get
• 26:22
  a
• 26:22
  cancer
• 26:23
  because
• 26:23
  it
• 26:24
  does
• 26:24
  take
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  long
• 26:24
  time
• 26:25
  for
• 26:25
  those
• 26:25
  reactions
• 26:26
  to
• 26:26
  happen.
• 26:26
  And
• 26:26
  typically
• 26:27
  your
• 26:27
  lung
• 26:28
  for
• 26:28
  enough
• 26:28
  fibers
• 26:29
  embedded
• 26:29
  for
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  things
• 26:30
  to
• 26:30
  happen
• 26:30
  that
• 26:31
  cause
• 26:31
  cancer.
• 26:31
  It's
• 26:32
  definitely
• 26:32
  not
• 26:32
  an
• 26:32
  overnight
• 26:33
  process.
• 26:34
  And
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  same
• 26:35
  end,
• 26:36
  a
• 26:36
  brief
• 26:37
  one
• 26:37
  time,
• 26:37
  quick
• 26:38
  exposure
• 26:38
  to
• 26:38
  asbestos
• 26:39
  isn't
• 26:39
  anything
• 26:40
  you
• 26:40
  need
• 26:40
  to
• 26:40
  freak
• 26:41
  out
• 26:41
  about.
• 26:41
  It's
• 26:42
  not
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  good
• 26:42
  thing.
• 26:42
  But
• 26:43
  just
• 26:43
  if
• 26:43
  you
• 26:43
  walk
• 26:43
  through
• 26:44
  a
• 26:44
  bar
• 26:44
  full
• 26:45
  of
• 26:45
  cigarette
• 26:45
  smoke,
• 26:46
  you
• 26:46
  don't
• 26:46
  have
• 26:46
  to
• 26:46
  be
• 26:47
  terrified
• 26:47
  that,
• 26:47
  oh
• 26:47
  my
• 26:48
  God,
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  was
• 26:48
  in
• 26:48
  this
• 26:48
  smoke
• 26:48
  for
• 26:49
  two
• 26:49
  minutes,
• 26:49
  I'm
• 26:49
  going
• 26:49
  to
• 26:49
  die.
• 26:50
  Probably
• 26:50
  not.
• 26:51
  It's
• 26:51
  technically
• 26:52
  possible
• 26:52
  you
• 26:52
  could
• 26:52
  get
• 26:53
  cancer,
• 26:53
  but
• 26:54
  it's
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  prolonged
• 26:55
  exposure
• 26:56
  is
• 26:56
  your
• 26:56
  real
• 26:56
  issue.
• 26:57
  Yeah,
• 26:57
  but
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  wonder
• 26:58
  though,
• 26:58
  if
• 26:58
  you
• 26:59
  had
• 26:59
  a
• 27:00
  DIY
• 27:00
  asbestos
• 27:01
  cleanup
• 27:01
  where
• 27:02
  you
• 27:02
  sent
• 27:02
  friable
• 27:03
  stuff
• 27:03
  all
• 27:03
  around
• 27:04
  your
• 27:04
  house.
• 27:05
  Now
• 27:06
  in
• 27:06
  theory
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  could
• 27:07
  be
• 27:07
  having
• 27:08
  multiple
• 27:08
  exposures
• 27:09
  because
• 27:09
  that's
• 27:10
  hanging
• 27:10
  around
• 27:10
  for
• 27:11
  years
• 27:11
  inside
• 27:11
  the
• 27:12
  home.
• 27:13
  So
• 27:13
  maybe
• 27:13
  it's
• 27:14
  not
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  first
• 27:14
  time
• 27:14
  you
• 27:15
  get
• 27:15
  it,
• 27:15
  but
• 27:16
  year
• 27:16
  four
• 27:16
  and
• 27:17
  you're
• 27:17
  still
• 27:17
  getting
• 27:17
  it.
• 27:17
  Every
• 27:18
  time
• 27:18
  that
• 27:18
  you're
• 27:18
  dusting
• 27:18
  and
• 27:19
  vacuuming
• 27:20
  and
• 27:20
  cleaning
• 27:20
  up
• 27:21
  the
• 27:21
  house.
• 27:22
  Of
• 27:22
  course
• 27:22
  you'd
• 27:22
  be
• 27:22
  getting
• 27:23
  diminished
• 27:23
  returns
• 27:24
  on
• 27:24
  that
• 27:24
  because
• 27:24
  as
• 27:25
  it
• 27:25
  disappears,
• 27:26
  you
• 27:26
  could
• 27:26
  in
• 27:27
  theory
• 27:27
  then
• 27:27
  have
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  bunch
• 27:28
  of
• 27:28
  exposures
• 27:28
  and
• 27:28
  have
• 27:29
  some
• 27:29
  issue
• 27:29
  just
• 27:29
  from
• 27:30
  one
• 27:30
  event
• 27:30
  that
• 27:31
  was
• 27:31
  handled
• 27:31
  poorly.
• 27:32
  Absolutely.
• 27:33
  It's
• 27:33
  not
• 27:34
  theoretical,
• 27:34
  it's
• 27:34
  definitely
• 27:35
  proven.
• 27:35
  I
• 27:36
  know
• 27:36
  you
• 27:36
  obviously
• 27:37
  know
• 27:37
  the
• 27:37
  company,
• 27:37
  John's
• 27:37
  Manville.
• 27:38
  They
• 27:38
  were
• 27:38
  one
• 27:38
  of
• 27:38
  the
• 27:39
  largest
• 27:39
  asbestos
• 27:39
  companies.
• 27:40
  They
• 27:40
  don't
• 27:40
  do
• 27:40
  anything
• 27:40
  with
• 27:41
  asbestos
• 27:41
  anymore.
• 27:42
  But
• 27:42
  in,
• 27:42
  in
• 27:42
  the
• 27:43
  70s,
• 27:43
  their
• 27:43
  corporate
• 27:44
  medical
• 27:44
  director
• 27:45
  testified
• 27:45
  to
• 27:46
  Congress
• 27:47
  that
• 27:47
  if
• 27:47
  asbestos
• 27:48
  gets
• 27:48
  into
• 27:49
  your
• 27:49
  home,
• 27:49
  you
• 27:50
  have
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  24
• 27:51
  hour
• 27:51
  day
• 27:51
  per
• 27:52
  day
• 27:52
  exposure
• 27:52
  scenario
• 27:53
  because
• 27:53
  it
• 27:54
  goes
• 27:54
  up
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  air,
• 27:54
  goes
• 27:55
  down
• 27:55
  into
• 27:55
  your
• 27:55
  carpet,
• 27:56
  you
• 27:56
  walk
• 27:56
  on
• 27:56
  it,
• 27:56
  goes
• 27:57
  up
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  down,
• 27:58
  you're
• 27:58
  always
• 27:58
  breathing
• 27:59
  it.
• 28:00
  So,
• 28:00
  yeah,
• 28:00
  I
• 28:00
  hope
• 28:00
  to
• 28:01
  be
• 28:01
  clear.
• 28:01
  Your
• 28:01
  point
• 28:01
  is
• 28:01
  excellent.
• 28:02
  If
• 28:02
  you're
• 28:03
  outside
• 28:03
  at
• 28:03
  a
• 28:03
  job
• 28:04
  site
• 28:04
  and
• 28:04
  you
• 28:04
  breathe
• 28:05
  asbestos
• 28:05
  for
• 28:05
  two
• 28:05
  minutes,
• 28:06
  you
• 28:06
  might
• 28:06
  be
• 28:06
  done
• 28:06
  with
• 28:06
  it.
• 28:07
  When
• 28:07
  you
• 28:07
  go
• 28:07
  home.
• 28:07
  But
• 28:07
  if
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  asbestos
• 28:08
  is
• 28:08
  in
• 28:08
  your
• 28:09
  home,
• 28:09
  you're
• 28:09
  breathing
• 28:09
  it
• 28:10
  every
• 28:10
  minute
• 28:10
  you're
• 28:10
  in
• 28:11
  your
• 28:11
  home
• 28:11
  if
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  concentrations
• 28:12
  are
• 28:12
  there.
• 28:12
  So,
• 28:13
  yeah,
• 28:13
  a
• 28:13
  poorly
• 28:13
  done
• 28:14
  remodel
• 28:14
  that
• 28:15
  gets
• 28:15
  a
• 28:15
  lot
• 28:15
  of
• 28:15
  friable
• 28:16
  asbestos
• 28:16
  in
• 28:16
  the
• 28:17
  air.
• 28:17
  It's
• 28:17
  very
• 28:17
  bad
• 28:18
  news.
• 28:19
  So
• 28:19
  what
• 28:19
  are
• 28:19
  some
• 28:19
  of
• 28:19
  the
• 28:20
  remedies
• 28:20
  that
• 28:20
  you've
• 28:21
  seen
• 28:21
  out
• 28:21
  there
• 28:21
  for
• 28:22
  people
• 28:22
  that
• 28:22
  have
• 28:22
  maybe
• 28:23
  have
• 28:23
  had
• 28:23
  that
• 28:23
  bad
• 28:24
  asbestos
• 28:25
  removal
• 28:26
  in
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  house?
• 28:27
  Is
• 28:27
  it
• 28:27
  just
• 28:27
  somebody
• 28:28
  coming
• 28:28
  in
• 28:28
  with
• 28:28
  a
• 28:28
  cleaning
• 28:29
  crew
• 28:29
  and
• 28:29
  just
• 28:29
  doing
• 28:30
  a
• 28:30
  super
• 28:30
  detailed
• 28:31
  clean
• 28:31
  on
• 28:31
  the
• 28:32
  house?
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  of
• 28:32
  course,
• 28:32
  the
• 28:33
  H
• 28:33
  Vac
• 28:33
  system
• 28:34
  and
• 28:34
  everything
• 28:34
  else.
• 28:35
  Yep.
• 28:35
  Going
• 28:35
  through
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  H
• 28:36
  Vac
• 28:36
  is
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  big
• 28:37
  one
• 28:37
  to
• 28:37
  get
• 28:37
  anything
• 28:37
  that
• 28:37
  there
• 28:38
  can
• 28:38
  be
• 28:38
  out
• 28:38
  of
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  dust
• 28:39
  out
• 28:39
  of
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  ducts.
• 28:40
  But
• 28:40
  you
• 28:40
  got
• 28:40
  to
• 28:40
  do
• 28:41
  have
• 28:41
  to
• 28:41
  replace
• 28:41
  carpet,
• 28:42
  because
• 28:42
  you'll
• 28:42
  never
• 28:42
  get
• 28:42
  asbestos
• 28:43
  out
• 28:43
  of
• 28:43
  carpet.
• 28:44
  You
• 28:44
  could
• 28:44
  get
• 28:44
  it
• 28:45
  off
• 28:45
  of
• 28:45
  a
• 28:45
  hardwood
• 28:45
  floor
• 28:46
  with
• 28:46
  wet
• 28:46
  methods,
• 28:47
  things
• 28:47
  like
• 28:47
  that.
• 28:48
  But
• 28:48
  really,
• 28:48
  the
• 28:49
  only
• 28:49
  good
• 28:49
  cure
• 28:50
  for
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  botched
• 28:50
  abatement
• 28:51
  job
• 28:51
  is
• 28:51
  a
• 28:52
  better,
• 28:52
  more
• 28:52
  expensive
• 28:53
  abatement
• 28:53
  job,
• 28:53
  unfortunately,
• 28:54
  because
• 28:54
  they
• 28:55
  have
• 28:55
  more
• 28:55
  mess
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  clean
• 28:56
  up.
• 28:56
  Yeah,
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  could
• 28:57
  be
• 28:57
  anywhere.
• 28:58
  I
• 28:58
  could
• 28:58
  see
• 28:58
  where
• 28:58
  that
• 28:58
  could
• 28:59
  be
• 28:59
  a
• 28:59
  really
• 28:59
  issue.
• 28:59
  And
• 29:00
  even
• 29:00
  with
• 29:00
  ducts,
• 29:00
  it's
• 29:01
  still
• 29:01
  going
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  try
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  stick
• 29:02
  in
• 29:02
  there.
• 29:02
  You're
• 29:02
  just
• 29:02
  going
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  be
• 29:02
  getting
• 29:03
  most
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  it,
• 29:03
  I
• 29:03
  would
• 29:03
  say,
• 29:04
  for
• 29:04
  sure.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:05
  I
• 29:05
  mean,
• 29:05
  it's.
• 29:06
  Again,
• 29:06
  just
• 29:06
  because
• 29:06
  these
• 29:07
  fibers
• 29:07
  are
• 29:08
  so
• 29:08
  tiny,
• 29:09
  I've
• 29:09
  been
• 29:09
  having
• 29:10
  some
• 29:10
  fun,
• 29:10
  like
• 29:10
  trying
• 29:10
  to
• 29:11
  figure
• 29:11
  out
• 29:11
  the
• 29:11
  best
• 29:11
  ways
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  really
• 29:12
  illustrate
• 29:13
  how
• 29:13
  small
• 29:13
  asbestos
• 29:14
  is,
• 29:14
  and
• 29:14
  using
• 29:15
  some
• 29:15
  of
• 29:15
  the
• 29:15
  AI
• 29:15
  programs.
• 29:16
  And
• 29:17
  the
• 29:17
  latest
• 29:17
  one
• 29:17
  that
• 29:17
  really
• 29:18
  puts
• 29:18
  it
• 29:18
  into
• 29:18
  perspective
• 29:19
  is
• 29:19
  if
• 29:20
  you
• 29:20
  were
• 29:20
  to
• 29:20
  take
• 29:21
  every
• 29:21
  asbestos
• 29:22
  fiber
• 29:22
  that
• 29:23
  we
• 29:23
  mined,
• 29:23
  and
• 29:24
  we've
• 29:24
  mined
• 29:24
  about
• 29:25
  175
• 29:26
  million
• 29:26
  tons
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  asbestos.
• 29:28
  If
• 29:28
  you
• 29:29
  were
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  take
• 29:29
  that
• 29:29
  175
• 29:30
  million
• 29:30
  tons
• 29:31
  and
• 29:31
  could
• 29:31
  somehow
• 29:32
  lay
• 29:33
  every
• 29:33
  fiber
• 29:33
  end
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  end,
• 29:35
  it
• 29:35
  would
• 29:35
  stretch
• 29:35
  a
• 29:36
  little
• 29:36
  over
• 29:36
  6000-000000-00000,
• 29:38
  which
• 29:39
  is
• 29:39
  the
• 29:39
  width
• 29:39
  of
• 29:39
  the
• 29:39
  entire
• 29:40
  Milky
• 29:40
  Way.
• 29:41
  We've
• 29:41
  mined
• 29:42
  enough
• 29:42
  asbestos
• 29:42
  because
• 29:43
  those
• 29:43
  fibers
• 29:43
  are
• 29:43
  so
• 29:43
  tiny,
• 29:44
  it
• 29:44
  stretches
• 29:45
  from
• 29:45
  one
• 29:45
  side
• 29:45
  of
• 29:46
  the
• 29:46
  galaxy
• 29:46
  to
• 29:46
  another.
• 29:47
  So,
• 29:47
  yeah,
• 29:47
  you're
• 29:48
  not
• 29:48
  going
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  get
• 29:49
  every
• 29:49
  fiber
• 29:49
  out.
• 29:50
  They're
• 29:50
  just
• 29:50
  too
• 29:50
  small.
• 29:51
  Wow,
• 29:52
  that's
• 29:52
  incredible.
• 29:53
  And
• 29:53
  of
• 29:53
  course,
• 29:53
  I
• 29:54
  think,
• 29:54
  as
• 29:54
  we
• 29:54
  see
• 29:54
  is
• 29:55
  your
• 29:55
  point
• 29:56
  earlier,
• 29:56
  that
• 29:56
  as
• 29:57
  we
• 29:57
  get
• 29:57
  older
• 29:57
  and
• 29:58
  as
• 29:58
  time
• 29:58
  goes
• 29:59
  on
• 30:00
  more
• 30:00
  people
• 30:00
  are
• 30:00
  having
• 30:00
  abatements,
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  stuff's
• 30:02
  getting
• 30:02
  gone.
• 30:02
  It's
• 30:02
  not
• 30:03
  in
• 30:03
  the
• 30:03
  new
• 30:03
  construction
• 30:04
  materials
• 30:04
  coming
• 30:05
  in,
• 30:05
  unless
• 30:05
  they're
• 30:05
  coming
• 30:06
  in
• 30:06
  from
• 30:06
  overseas,
• 30:07
  and
• 30:07
  no
• 30:07
  one's
• 30:07
  paying
• 30:07
  attention
• 30:08
  to
• 30:08
  that.
• 30:09
  But
• 30:09
  really,
• 30:09
  it
• 30:09
  seems
• 30:10
  that
• 30:10
  50
• 30:11
  years
• 30:11
  from
• 30:11
  now,
• 30:11
  we
• 30:11
  might
• 30:12
  see
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  lot
• 30:12
  less
• 30:12
  of
• 30:13
  it,
• 30:13
  but
• 30:13
  there's
• 30:13
  still
• 30:13
  going
• 30:13
  to
• 30:14
  be
• 30:14
  that
• 30:14
  old
• 30:14
  home
• 30:14
  that
• 30:15
  has
• 30:15
  been
• 30:16
  in
• 30:16
  two
• 30:16
  generations
• 30:16
  that
• 30:17
  no
• 30:17
  one's
• 30:17
  touched,
• 30:17
  that
• 30:18
  it's
• 30:18
  still
• 30:18
  hiding
• 30:18
  in.
• 30:19
  And
• 30:19
  it'll
• 30:20
  be
• 30:20
  a
• 30:20
  case
• 30:20
  of
• 30:20
  somebody's
• 30:21
  bad
• 30:21
  luck
• 30:22
  that
• 30:22
  they
• 30:22
  had
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  right
• 30:23
  genetics
• 30:23
  and
• 30:23
  they
• 30:23
  breathe
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  fiber
• 30:24
  in
• 30:24
  just
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  right
• 30:25
  time,
• 30:25
  that
• 30:25
  it
• 30:26
  will
• 30:26
  cause
• 30:26
  some
• 30:26
  sort
• 30:26
  of
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  disease.
• 30:28
  And
• 30:28
  because
• 30:28
  of
• 30:29
  the
• 30:29
  latency,
• 30:29
  they
• 30:29
  might
• 30:29
  not
• 30:30
  realize
• 30:30
  that
• 30:30
  they
• 30:31
  had
• 30:31
  a
• 30:31
  childhood
• 30:31
  exposure
• 30:32
  at
• 30:32
  age
• 30:32
  10,
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  they
• 30:32
  get
• 30:33
  mesothelioma
• 30:33
  at
• 30:34
  age
• 30:34
  75.
• 30:35
  They
• 30:35
  might
• 30:35
  never
• 30:36
  know
• 30:36
  where
• 30:36
  that
• 30:36
  even
• 30:36
  came
• 30:37
  from.
• 30:37
  And
• 30:38
  as
• 30:38
  time
• 30:38
  goes
• 30:38
  further
• 30:39
  and
• 30:39
  further
• 30:39
  on,
• 30:39
  that's
• 30:40
  what's
• 30:40
  going
• 30:40
  to
• 30:40
  happen.
• 30:41
  There's
• 30:41
  still
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  rest
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  world.
• 30:43
  Some
• 30:43
  portions
• 30:43
  of
• 30:43
  it
• 30:44
  still
• 30:44
  do
• 30:44
  use
• 30:44
  asbestos
• 30:45
  daily.
• 30:45
  They
• 30:46
  still
• 30:46
  mine
• 30:46
  it
• 30:46
  in
• 30:46
  Russia
• 30:47
  and
• 30:47
  China
• 30:47
  especially,
• 30:48
  and
• 30:48
  they're
• 30:49
  dealing
• 30:49
  with
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  same
• 30:49
  kinds
• 30:50
  of
• 30:50
  problems
• 30:50
  from
• 30:50
  it.
• 30:51
  They
• 30:51
  just
• 30:51
  don't
• 30:51
  care
• 30:52
  as
• 30:52
  much
• 30:52
  as
• 30:52
  we
• 30:52
  did.
• 30:53
  Then
• 30:53
  we
• 30:53
  have
• 30:54
  natural
• 30:54
  disasters
• 30:55
  like
• 30:55
  what
• 30:55
  happened
• 30:55
  down
• 30:56
  in
• 30:56
  California,
• 30:57
  where
• 30:57
  you've
• 30:57
  got
• 30:57
  all
• 30:58
  these
• 30:58
  homes
• 30:58
  that
• 30:59
  potentially
• 30:59
  could
• 30:59
  have
• 31:00
  had
• 31:00
  it
• 31:00
  if
• 31:00
  they
• 31:00
  weren't
• 31:00
  remodeled
• 31:01
  and
• 31:01
  then
• 31:02
  they
• 31:02
  burned
• 31:02
  completely
• 31:03
  to
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  ground.
• 31:04
  And
• 31:04
  the
• 31:04
  only
• 31:05
  thing
• 31:05
  you
• 31:05
  have
• 31:05
  left
• 31:05
  is
• 31:06
  ash
• 31:07
  and
• 31:07
  asbestos.
• 31:08
  Pretty
• 31:09
  much,
• 31:09
  yeah.
• 31:09
  And
• 31:10
  depending
• 31:11
  on
• 31:11
  how
• 31:11
  it's
• 31:11
  cleaned
• 31:12
  up,
• 31:12
  if
• 31:12
  at
• 31:12
  all,
• 31:13
  who
• 31:13
  knows
• 31:13
  where
• 31:14
  that
• 31:14
  stuff
• 31:14
  could
• 31:14
  go.
• 31:14
  Because
• 31:15
  once
• 31:15
  the
• 31:15
  fire
• 31:15
  comes,
• 31:16
  there's
• 31:16
  smoke,
• 31:16
  and
• 31:16
  the
• 31:16
  smoke
• 31:17
  particles
• 31:17
  can
• 31:17
  carry
• 31:18
  asbestos,
• 31:18
  and
• 31:19
  we
• 31:19
  all
• 31:19
  know
• 31:19
  smoke
• 31:19
  can
• 31:20
  travel
• 31:20
  for
• 31:20
  miles,
• 31:21
  so
• 31:21
  can
• 31:21
  the
• 31:21
  asbestos
• 31:22
  fibers
• 31:22
  that
• 31:22
  hitch
• 31:22
  a
• 31:23
  ride
• 31:23
  on
• 31:23
  it
• 31:24
  all
• 31:24
  depending.
• 31:24
  And
• 31:25
  again,
• 31:25
  breathing
• 31:26
  a
• 31:26
  little
• 31:26
  bit
• 31:26
  of
• 31:26
  asbestos
• 31:27
  dust
• 31:27
  for
• 31:27
  two
• 31:27
  minutes,
• 31:28
  you're
• 31:28
  probably
• 31:28
  okay.
• 31:29
  You
• 31:29
  don't
• 31:29
  want
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  do
• 31:30
  it.
• 31:30
  You
• 31:30
  don't
• 31:30
  have
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  be
• 31:31
  terrified.
• 31:31
  But
• 31:31
  it's
• 31:32
  not
• 31:32
  just
• 31:32
  that
• 31:32
  one
• 31:32
  fire.
• 31:33
  There's
• 31:33
  multiple
• 31:34
  fires
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  there's
• 31:35
  multiple
• 31:35
  situations.
• 31:36
  They
• 31:37
  have
• 31:37
  what
• 31:37
  in
• 31:37
  every
• 31:38
  city,
• 31:38
  they
• 31:38
  call
• 31:38
  it
• 31:38
  a
• 31:38
  background
• 31:39
  level
• 31:39
  of
• 31:40
  asbestos,
• 31:40
  that
• 31:40
  there's
• 31:41
  no
• 31:41
  city
• 31:41
  on
• 31:41
  the
• 31:41
  planet
• 31:42
  where
• 31:42
  there's
• 31:42
  no
• 31:42
  asbestos
• 31:43
  in
• 31:43
  the
• 31:43
  air.
• 31:43
  Some
• 31:44
  cities
• 31:44
  have
• 31:44
  more
• 31:44
  of
• 31:44
  it
• 31:45
  than
• 31:45
  others.
• 31:45
  So
• 31:46
  everyone's
• 31:46
  getting
• 31:46
  a
• 31:46
  little
• 31:47
  dose
• 31:48
  always,
• 31:48
  and
• 31:49
  that
• 31:49
  adds
• 31:49
  up.
• 31:50
  So
• 31:50
  every
• 31:50
  additional
• 31:51
  exposure
• 31:51
  you
• 31:52
  get
• 31:52
  might
• 31:53
  be
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  tipping
• 31:54
  point
• 31:54
  for
• 31:54
  you.
• 31:54
  You
• 31:55
  just
• 31:55
  can't
• 31:55
  tell,
• 31:56
  boy.
• 31:57
  So
• 31:57
  if
• 31:57
  you
• 31:57
  were
• 31:57
  down
• 31:57
  there
• 31:58
  in
• 31:58
  pacific
• 31:58
  palisades,
• 32:00
  you
• 32:00
  could
• 32:00
  have
• 32:00
  a
• 32:00
  serious
• 32:01
  issue,
• 32:01
  depending
• 32:01
  on
• 32:01
  how
• 32:02
  they
• 32:02
  clean
• 32:02
  those
• 32:02
  neighborhoods
• 32:03
  out
• 32:03
  before
• 32:03
  they
• 32:03
  start
• 32:04
  construction.
• 32:04
  Because
• 32:05
  just
• 32:05
  a
• 32:06
  little
• 32:06
  bit
• 32:06
  of
• 32:06
  a
• 32:06
  breeze,
• 32:07
  all
• 32:08
  of
• 32:08
  a
• 32:08
  sudden,
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  could
• 32:08
  have
• 32:09
  a
• 32:09
  pretty
• 32:09
  significant
• 32:10
  concentration
• 32:10
  of
• 32:11
  asbestos,
• 32:11
  because
• 32:12
  that's
• 32:12
  what's
• 32:13
  left
• 32:13
  from
• 32:13
  those
• 32:13
  buildings,
• 32:14
  for
• 32:14
  sure.
• 32:14
  And
• 32:15
  also
• 32:15
  in
• 32:15
  California,
• 32:16
  down
• 32:16
  near.
• 32:16
  I
• 32:17
  want
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  say
• 32:17
  it's
• 32:17
  king
• 32:17
  city
• 32:18
  area,
• 32:18
  There
• 32:18
  were
• 32:18
  some.
• 32:19
  Some
• 32:19
  very
• 32:19
  large
• 32:19
  asbestos
• 32:20
  mines,
• 32:20
  and
• 32:21
  they've
• 32:21
  tried
• 32:22
  to
• 32:22
  cordon
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  areas
• 32:23
  off
• 32:23
  because
• 32:24
  asbestos
• 32:24
  is
• 32:24
  at
• 32:24
  surface
• 32:25
  level,
• 32:25
  and
• 32:25
  when
• 32:25
  winds
• 32:26
  come
• 32:26
  up
• 32:26
  it
• 32:26
  picks
• 32:27
  the
• 32:27
  asbestos
• 32:27
  up.
• 32:28
  And
• 32:28
  you
• 32:28
  can
• 32:28
  be
• 32:28
  out
• 32:28
  there
• 32:29
  hiking
• 32:29
  and
• 32:29
  get
• 32:30
  exposed
• 32:30
  to
• 32:30
  it
• 32:30
  there.
• 32:31
  Wind
• 32:31
  will
• 32:31
  make
• 32:32
  it
• 32:32
  travel,
• 32:32
  and
• 32:33
  just
• 32:33
  as
• 32:33
  it
• 32:33
  can
• 32:34
  cling
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  dirt
• 32:35
  or
• 32:35
  whatever
• 32:35
  after
• 32:35
  a
• 32:35
  fire,
• 32:36
  it's
• 32:36
  the
• 32:37
  same
• 32:37
  thing
• 32:37
  where
• 32:37
  that
• 32:37
  came
• 32:37
  from,
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  mines.
• 34:34
  The
• 34:34
  stuff
• 34:35
  will
• 34:35
  be
• 34:35
  everywhere,
• 34:36
  man.
• 34:36
  It
• 34:37
  seems
• 34:37
  that
• 34:37
  we
• 34:38
  had
• 34:38
  first
• 34:38
  lead
• 34:39
  paint.
• 34:39
  Right.
• 34:39
  That
• 34:39
  was
• 34:40
  the
• 34:40
  big
• 34:40
  thing
• 34:40
  in
• 34:40
  the
• 34:40
  homes.
• 34:41
  And
• 34:41
  I
• 34:42
  think
• 34:42
  we're
• 34:42
  seeing
• 34:42
  a
• 34:42
  little
• 34:42
  less
• 34:42
  of
• 34:43
  that
• 34:43
  as
• 34:43
  people
• 34:43
  paint
• 34:44
  and
• 34:44
  things
• 34:44
  get
• 34:44
  remodeled
• 34:45
  and
• 34:45
  that
• 34:45
  kind
• 34:45
  of
• 34:45
  thing.
• 34:46
  And
• 34:46
  then
• 34:46
  we've
• 34:47
  had
• 34:47
  asbestos.
• 34:47
  And
• 34:48
  it
• 34:48
  seems
• 34:48
  like
• 34:48
  the
• 34:48
  next
• 34:49
  one
• 34:49
  that's
• 34:49
  emerging
• 34:49
  right
• 34:50
  now
• 34:50
  is.
• 34:51
  And
• 34:51
  this
• 34:51
  isn't
• 34:52
  what
• 34:52
  we're
• 34:52
  here
• 34:52
  to
• 34:52
  talk
• 34:52
  about,
• 34:53
  but
• 34:53
  silica
• 34:54
  dust
• 34:54
  is
• 34:54
  creeping
• 34:55
  up
• 34:55
  on
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  next
• 34:56
  one
• 34:56
  for
• 34:56
  people's
• 34:57
  lungs.
• 34:58
  It
• 34:58
  is.
• 34:58
  And
• 34:59
  it's
• 34:59
  interesting.
• 34:59
  Before
• 35:00
  they
• 35:00
  knew
• 35:01
  that
• 35:01
  asbestos
• 35:02
  was
• 35:02
  harmful,
• 35:02
  they
• 35:02
  knew
• 35:02
  silica
• 35:03
  was
• 35:03
  harmful
• 35:03
  because
• 35:04
  silica
• 35:05
  can
• 35:05
  kill
• 35:05
  you
• 35:06
  in
• 35:06
  months.
• 35:06
  They
• 35:06
  had
• 35:07
  a
• 35:07
  tragedy.
• 35:07
  I
• 35:07
  don't
• 35:07
  know
• 35:07
  if
• 35:07
  you
• 35:07
  ever
• 35:08
  heard
• 35:08
  of
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  Hawk's
• 35:08
  Nest
• 35:09
  tunnel
• 35:09
  in
• 35:09
  the
• 35:10
  East
• 35:10
  Coast.
• 35:10
  They
• 35:11
  drilled
• 35:11
  a
• 35:11
  big
• 35:12
  tunnel
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  highway
• 35:13
  or
• 35:13
  whatnot,
• 35:14
  and
• 35:14
  hundreds
• 35:14
  of
• 35:14
  workers
• 35:15
  died
• 35:15
  from
• 35:15
  all
• 35:15
  of
• 35:15
  the
• 35:15
  silica
• 35:16
  that
• 35:16
  they
• 35:16
  breathe.
• 35:17
  So
• 35:17
  they
• 35:18
  knew
• 35:18
  then
• 35:18
  this
• 35:18
  stuff
• 35:19
  is
• 35:19
  terrible.
• 35:20
  And
• 35:20
  that
• 35:21
  kind
• 35:21
  of
• 35:21
  foreshadowed
• 35:22
  what
• 35:22
  would
• 35:22
  happen
• 35:22
  with
• 35:23
  asbestos.
• 35:23
  But
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  was
• 35:24
  at
• 35:24
  a
• 35:24
  seminar
• 35:25
  recently
• 35:25
  for
• 35:25
  asbestos
• 35:26
  attorneys,
• 35:26
  and
• 35:26
  they
• 35:27
  had
• 35:27
  some
• 35:27
  footage
• 35:27
  in
• 35:28
  the
• 35:28
  Southern
• 35:28
  California
• 35:29
  area
• 35:29
  inside
• 35:30
  shops
• 35:30
  that
• 35:31
  are
• 35:31
  making
• 35:31
  all
• 35:31
  those
• 35:31
  lovely
• 35:32
  countertops
• 35:33
  that
• 35:33
  people
• 35:33
  want,
• 35:34
  and
• 35:34
  they're
• 35:34
  not
• 35:34
  doing
• 35:35
  things
• 35:35
  with
• 35:35
  proper
• 35:36
  protective
• 35:36
  gear.
• 35:37
  And
• 35:37
  you're
• 35:38
  getting
• 35:38
  people
• 35:38
  in
• 35:39
  their
• 35:39
  20s
• 35:39
  and
• 35:39
  30s
• 35:40
  working
• 35:40
  at
• 35:40
  these
• 35:40
  fabrication
• 35:41
  shops
• 35:42
  that
• 35:42
  are
• 35:42
  getting
• 35:43
  sick
• 35:43
  and
• 35:43
  dying.
• 35:43
  Within
• 35:44
  a
• 35:44
  couple
• 35:44
  of
• 35:44
  years,
• 35:45
  it's
• 35:45
  happening
• 35:46
  all
• 35:46
  over
• 35:46
  again.
• 35:47
  We
• 35:47
  knew
• 35:47
  about
• 35:48
  this
• 35:48
  a
• 35:48
  hundred
• 35:49
  years
• 35:49
  ago,
• 35:50
  but
• 35:50
  people
• 35:50
  want
• 35:50
  fancy
• 35:51
  countertops
• 35:52
  and
• 35:52
  people
• 35:52
  don't
• 35:52
  want
• 35:52
  to
• 35:53
  pay
• 35:53
  top
• 35:53
  dollar
• 35:53
  for
• 35:53
  the
• 35:54
  right
• 35:54
  safety
• 35:54
  gear.
• 35:55
  So
• 35:55
  you
• 35:55
  have
• 35:55
  a
• 35:56
  whole
• 35:56
  new
• 35:56
  group
• 35:56
  of
• 35:56
  workers
• 35:57
  that
• 35:57
  are
• 35:57
  getting
• 35:57
  sick.
• 35:58
  Silica
• 35:58
  we're
• 35:59
  never
• 35:59
  going
• 35:59
  to
• 35:59
  be
• 35:59
  able
• 35:59
  to
• 35:59
  get
• 36:00
  rid
• 36:00
  of.
• 36:00
  At
• 36:00
  least
• 36:00
  asbestos
• 36:01
  we
• 36:01
  could
• 36:01
  ban.
• 36:01
  But
• 36:01
  silica
• 36:02
  is
• 36:02
  naturally
• 36:02
  in
• 36:02
  some
• 36:02
  of
• 36:03
  these
• 36:03
  counters.
• 36:03
  Yeah.
• 36:04
  And
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  one
• 36:04
  is
• 36:04
  so
• 36:04
  easily
• 36:05
  done
• 36:05
  as
• 36:05
  well
• 36:05
  because
• 36:06
  there's
• 36:06
  so
• 36:06
  many
• 36:06
  shops
• 36:07
  that
• 36:07
  can
• 36:07
  be
• 36:07
  using
• 36:07
  water
• 36:08
  to
• 36:09
  really
• 36:09
  keep
• 36:09
  that
• 36:10
  risk
• 36:10
  down.
• 36:10
  I
• 36:11
  can't
• 36:11
  tell
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  how
• 36:11
  many
• 36:11
  times
• 36:12
  I'm
• 36:12
  driving
• 36:12
  around
• 36:13
  on
• 36:13
  the
• 36:13
  freeway
• 36:13
  and
• 36:13
  I
• 36:14
  see
• 36:14
  somebody
• 36:14
  over
• 36:14
  there,
• 36:14
  not
• 36:15
  a
• 36:15
  dust
• 36:15
  mask
• 36:15
  on
• 36:17
  safety
• 36:17
  glasses,
• 36:17
  and
• 36:18
  they're
• 36:18
  dry
• 36:18
  cutting
• 36:18
  concrete
• 36:19
  over
• 36:19
  there.
• 36:19
  And
• 36:19
  they've
• 36:20
  got
• 36:20
  a.
• 36:20
  They've
• 36:20
  got
• 36:21
  a
• 36:21
  dust
• 36:21
  cloud
• 36:22
  from
• 36:22
  30ft
• 36:23
  long
• 36:23
  going
• 36:23
  across
• 36:24
  the
• 36:24
  roadway.
• 36:24
  And
• 36:24
  the
• 36:25
  guy's
• 36:25
  just
• 36:25
  covered
• 36:25
  white
• 36:26
  like
• 36:26
  somebody
• 36:26
  poured
• 36:27
  chalk
• 36:27
  over
• 36:27
  him.
• 36:28
  And
• 36:28
  I'm
• 36:28
  like,
• 36:29
  ah,
• 36:30
  not
• 36:30
  good.
• 36:31
  Yeah,
• 36:31
  not
• 36:31
  at
• 36:32
  all.
• 36:32
  And
• 36:32
  I
• 36:32
  Just
• 36:33
  will
• 36:33
  make
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  point.
• 36:33
  Those,
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  3M
• 36:34
  dust
• 36:34
  masks,
• 36:35
  they
• 36:35
  don't
• 36:35
  stop
• 36:35
  asbestos.
• 36:36
  They
• 36:37
  just
• 36:37
  don't.
• 36:37
  So
• 36:38
  for
• 36:38
  Quite
• 36:39
  a
• 36:39
  while.
• 36:39
  3M
• 36:39
  even
• 36:39
  got
• 36:40
  sued
• 36:40
  a
• 36:40
  lot
• 36:40
  because
• 36:41
  they've
• 36:41
  implied
• 36:41
  maybe
• 36:42
  they
• 36:42
  don't.
• 36:42
  So
• 36:43
  even
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  little
• 36:43
  one
• 36:43
  doesn't
• 36:44
  work.
• 36:44
  You
• 36:44
  need
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  respirators.
• 36:45
  You
• 36:45
  said
• 36:45
  those
• 36:45
  particles
• 36:46
  are
• 36:46
  so
• 36:46
  small,
• 36:46
  if
• 36:47
  it's
• 36:47
  not
• 36:47
  a
• 36:47
  HEPA
• 36:47
  or
• 36:48
  other
• 36:48
  good
• 36:48
  filtering
• 36:49
  system,
• 36:49
  it's
• 36:50
  going
• 36:50
  to
• 36:50
  get
• 36:50
  through.
• 36:51
  And
• 36:51
  yeah,
• 36:51
  he's
• 36:51
  saying
• 36:51
  like
• 36:52
  we've
• 36:52
  had
• 36:53
  so
• 36:53
  many
• 36:53
  clients
• 36:53
  say
• 36:53
  that
• 36:54
  they
• 36:54
  felt
• 36:54
  like
• 36:54
  they
• 36:54
  were
• 36:54
  covered
• 36:55
  in
• 36:55
  snow
• 36:55
  that
• 36:55
  looked
• 36:56
  like
• 36:56
  they're
• 36:56
  just
• 36:56
  drenched
• 36:57
  in
• 36:57
  white
• 36:57
  powder.
• 36:58
  It's
• 36:58
  a
• 36:59
  very,
• 37:00
  it
• 37:01
  gets
• 37:01
  really
• 37:01
  easily
• 37:01
  airborne
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  clings
• 37:03
  and
• 37:03
  it's,
• 37:04
  it's
• 37:04
  a
• 37:04
  unique
• 37:04
  material,
• 37:05
  put
• 37:05
  it
• 37:05
  that
• 37:05
  way.
• 37:06
  Yeah.
• 37:06
  And
• 37:06
  that's
• 37:07
  again
• 37:07
  another
• 37:07
  one
• 37:07
  of
• 37:07
  those
• 37:08
  things
• 37:08
  that
• 37:08
  I
• 37:08
  don't
• 37:09
  know
• 37:09
  how
• 37:09
  many
• 37:09
  times
• 37:09
  I've
• 37:09
  seen.
• 37:10
  Maybe
• 37:11
  it's
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  mason
• 37:11
  that's
• 37:12
  up
• 37:12
  there
• 37:12
  working
• 37:12
  on
• 37:13
  the
• 37:13
  chimney,
• 37:13
  repointing
• 37:14
  it
• 37:14
  to
• 37:15
  a
• 37:15
  countertop
• 37:16
  guy
• 37:16
  that's
• 37:16
  out
• 37:16
  there
• 37:16
  cutting
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  sinkhole
• 37:17
  in
• 37:17
  the
• 37:18
  driveway
• 37:18
  with
• 37:18
  a
• 37:18
  grinder.
• 37:19
  Again,
• 37:19
  we're
• 37:20
  putting
• 37:20
  more
• 37:20
  people
• 37:21
  at
• 37:21
  risk
• 37:21
  and
• 37:21
  that's
• 37:22
  a
• 37:22
  whole
• 37:22
  other
• 37:22
  show
• 37:22
  on
• 37:23
  its
• 37:23
  own.
• 37:23
  But
• 37:24
  it
• 37:25
  seems
• 37:25
  like
• 37:25
  we're
• 37:25
  just
• 37:25
  getting
• 37:26
  ready
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  do
• 37:26
  the
• 37:26
  same
• 37:26
  thing
• 37:27
  over
• 37:27
  and
• 37:27
  over
• 37:27
  again
• 37:28
  and
• 37:28
  then
• 37:28
  there'll
• 37:29
  be
• 37:29
  another
• 37:29
  product
• 37:29
  that
• 37:30
  we'll
• 37:30
  run
• 37:30
  into.
• 37:31
  And
• 37:31
  the
• 37:31
  one
• 37:32
  thing
• 37:32
  that.
• 37:32
  And
• 37:32
  you
• 37:33
  and
• 37:33
  I
• 37:33
  talked
• 37:33
  a
• 37:33
  little
• 37:33
  bit
• 37:33
  about
• 37:33
  this
• 37:34
  when
• 37:34
  we
• 37:34
  chatted,
• 37:34
  but
• 37:35
  I
• 37:35
  think
• 37:35
  one
• 37:35
  of
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  biggest
• 37:35
  ones
• 37:36
  that
• 37:36
  I'm
• 37:36
  seeing
• 37:36
  now
• 37:37
  out
• 37:37
  there
• 37:38
  is
• 37:38
  that
• 37:38
  we
• 37:38
  see
• 37:39
  all
• 37:39
  of
• 37:39
  these
• 37:40
  new
• 37:40
  luxury
• 37:41
  vinyl
• 37:41
  plank
• 37:42
  floors.
• 37:43
  They
• 37:43
  have
• 37:43
  a
• 37:43
  stone
• 37:43
  core.
• 37:44
  So
• 37:45
  then
• 37:45
  when
• 37:45
  you
• 37:45
  call
• 37:45
  the
• 37:46
  manufacturers
• 37:46
  and
• 37:46
  have
• 37:47
  done
• 37:47
  this
• 37:47
  and
• 37:47
  they
• 37:47
  say,
• 37:47
  hey,
• 37:48
  what's
• 37:49
  in
• 37:49
  your
• 37:50
  stone
• 37:50
  core?
• 37:50
  And
• 37:51
  they
• 37:51
  say,
• 37:51
  oh,
• 37:51
  it's
• 37:51
  a
• 37:52
  post
• 37:52
  consumer
• 37:53
  or
• 37:53
  post
• 37:54
  production
• 37:55
  recycled
• 37:56
  stone
• 37:56
  dust.
• 37:57
  And
• 37:57
  I'm
• 37:58
  like,
• 37:58
  what's
• 37:58
  stone?
• 37:58
  They
• 37:58
  said
• 37:59
  some
• 37:59
  of
• 37:59
  it's
• 37:59
  limestone.
• 38:00
  Okay.
• 38:01
  If
• 38:01
  someone
• 38:02
  is
• 38:02
  out
• 38:02
  there
• 38:02
  with
• 38:02
  a
• 38:03
  chop
• 38:03
  saw
• 38:04
  installing
• 38:04
  this
• 38:05
  luxury
• 38:05
  vinyl
• 38:05
  plank
• 38:06
  flooring,
• 38:07
  all
• 38:07
  of
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  sudden
• 38:08
  you've
• 38:08
  got
• 38:08
  an
• 38:08
  issue
• 38:08
  there
• 38:09
  with
• 38:09
  silicos.
• 38:09
  That's
• 38:09
  because
• 38:10
  all
• 38:11
  of
• 38:11
  a
• 38:11
  sudden
• 38:11
  you've
• 38:11
  got
• 38:12
  that
• 38:12
  inside
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  house
• 38:12
  because
• 38:13
  somebody's
• 38:13
  in
• 38:13
  there
• 38:13
  cutting
• 38:14
  away.
• 38:14
  Absolutely.
• 38:15
  And
• 38:16
  what
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  industry
• 38:18
  would
• 38:18
  be
• 38:18
  doing,
• 38:18
  I
• 38:19
  actually,
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  was
• 38:19
  unaware
• 38:19
  that
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  luxury
• 38:20
  vinyl
• 38:20
  could
• 38:21
  add
• 38:21
  silica
• 38:21
  in
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  core.
• 38:22
  I
• 38:22
  don't
• 38:22
  cut
• 38:22
  a
• 38:22
  lot
• 38:22
  of
• 38:23
  flooring
• 38:23
  myself.
• 38:23
  But
• 38:24
  like
• 38:24
  the
• 38:25
  game
• 38:25
  they
• 38:25
  would
• 38:25
  be
• 38:25
  playing
• 38:26
  is
• 38:27
  by
• 38:27
  the
• 38:27
  time
• 38:27
  these
• 38:28
  end
• 38:28
  users
• 38:29
  get
• 38:29
  sick,
• 38:30
  they'll
• 38:30
  never
• 38:30
  know
• 38:30
  whose
• 38:31
  dust
• 38:31
  they
• 38:31
  breathed.
• 38:32
  That's
• 38:32
  what
• 38:32
  these
• 38:32
  fastest
• 38:33
  companies
• 38:33
  did
• 38:33
  for
• 38:33
  decades.
• 38:34
  They
• 38:34
  realized
• 38:35
  you're
• 38:36
  never
• 38:36
  going
• 38:36
  to
• 38:36
  know
• 38:36
  whose
• 38:37
  Products
• 38:37
  they
• 38:37
  worked
• 38:37
  with,
• 38:38
  if
• 38:38
  they
• 38:38
  even
• 38:38
  know
• 38:38
  that's
• 38:39
  what
• 38:39
  made
• 38:39
  them
• 38:39
  sick.
• 38:39
  So
• 38:40
  that's
• 38:40
  really
• 38:40
  offensive
• 38:41
  to
• 38:41
  hear
• 38:41
  that
• 38:41
  companies
• 38:42
  today
• 38:42
  are
• 38:42
  putting
• 38:43
  products
• 38:43
  that
• 38:43
  they
• 38:43
  know
• 38:44
  could
• 38:44
  cause
• 38:44
  silicosis
• 38:45
  and
• 38:46
  not
• 38:46
  giving
• 38:46
  proper
• 38:47
  warnings.
• 38:47
  Like
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  whole
• 38:48
  game
• 38:49
  for
• 38:49
  the
• 38:49
  asbestos
• 38:50
  industry
• 38:50
  was
• 38:50
  we
• 38:51
  don't
• 38:51
  want
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  put
• 38:51
  warning
• 38:52
  labels
• 38:52
  on
• 38:52
  stuff
• 38:52
  because
• 38:53
  then
• 38:53
  people
• 38:53
  won't
• 38:53
  buy
• 38:54
  it.
• 38:54
  That's
• 38:55
  all
• 38:55
  you
• 38:55
  have
• 38:55
  to
• 38:55
  do.
• 38:56
  Like,
• 38:56
  it's
• 38:56
  not
• 38:57
  illegal
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  sell
• 38:57
  something
• 38:58
  dangerous.
• 38:58
  You
• 38:58
  can
• 38:59
  go
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  gas
• 38:59
  station
• 38:59
  and
• 39:00
  buy
• 39:00
  gasoline.
• 39:00
  It'll
• 39:00
  blow
• 39:01
  up,
• 39:01
  it
• 39:01
  can
• 39:01
  kill
• 39:01
  you,
• 39:01
  you.
• 39:02
  But
• 39:02
  there's
• 39:02
  a
• 39:02
  warning
• 39:03
  on
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  gas
• 39:03
  container
• 39:03
  and
• 39:04
  on
• 39:04
  a
• 39:04
  gas
• 39:04
  pump.
• 39:05
  You
• 39:05
  just
• 39:05
  have
• 39:05
  to
• 39:05
  put
• 39:06
  a
• 39:06
  warning
• 39:06
  sticker
• 39:06
  on
• 39:07
  these
• 39:07
  things
• 39:07
  and
• 39:08
  it'd
• 39:08
  be
• 39:08
  a
• 39:08
  get
• 39:08
  out
• 39:08
  of
• 39:08
  jail
• 39:09
  free
• 39:09
  card.
• 39:10
  But
• 39:10
  many
• 39:10
  companies
• 39:10
  chose,
• 39:11
  they
• 39:11
  see
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  warning,
• 39:12
  they
• 39:12
  might
• 39:12
  buy
• 39:13
  something
• 39:13
  else.
• 39:13
  So
• 39:13
  let's
• 39:14
  not
• 39:14
  do
• 39:14
  that.
• 40:27
  Yeah,
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  marketing
• 40:28
  department
• 40:28
  was
• 40:29
  not
• 40:29
  happy
• 40:29
  about
• 40:30
  putting
• 40:30
  that
• 40:30
  on
• 40:30
  there
• 40:30
  and
• 40:31
  I
• 40:31
  get
• 40:31
  that.
• 40:31
  But
• 40:32
  wow,
• 40:32
  that
• 40:32
  also
• 40:33
  opens
• 40:33
  up
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  legal
• 40:34
  department
• 40:34
  for
• 40:34
  that
• 40:35
  as
• 40:35
  well.
• 40:35
  Definitely.
• 40:36
  The
• 40:36
  asbestos
• 40:37
  companies,
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  big
• 40:37
  boys,
• 40:38
  they
• 40:38
  got
• 40:38
  away
• 40:38
  with
• 40:38
  it.
• 40:39
  By
• 40:39
  the
• 40:39
  time
• 40:40
  it
• 40:40
  caught
• 40:40
  up
• 40:40
  what
• 40:40
  they
• 40:41
  had
• 40:41
  done,
• 40:41
  it
• 40:41
  took
• 40:41
  50
• 40:41
  years,
• 40:42
  but
• 40:42
  it
• 40:43
  tanked
• 40:43
  their
• 40:43
  business.
• 40:43
  John's
• 40:44
  Manville
• 40:44
  is
• 40:44
  doing
• 40:45
  good
• 40:45
  today
• 40:45
  and
• 40:45
  doesn't
• 40:46
  make
• 40:46
  asbestos.
• 40:46
  They
• 40:47
  had
• 40:47
  to
• 40:47
  do
• 40:47
  a
• 40:47
  big
• 40:47
  pivot.
• 40:48
  Their
• 40:48
  whole
• 40:49
  industry,
• 40:49
  everything
• 40:49
  they
• 40:50
  made
• 40:50
  poof.
• 40:51
  Because
• 40:51
  they
• 40:51
  lied
• 40:52
  and
• 40:52
  they
• 40:52
  concealed
• 40:52
  things.
• 40:53
  And
• 40:53
  if
• 40:53
  there
• 40:54
  had
• 40:54
  been
• 40:54
  some
• 40:54
  honesty
• 40:55
  about
• 40:55
  the
• 40:55
  risks
• 40:55
  of
• 40:56
  asbestos,
• 40:57
  then
• 40:57
  maybe
• 40:57
  there
• 40:58
  have
• 40:58
  been
• 40:58
  some
• 40:59
  other
• 40:59
  uses
• 40:59
  for
• 41:00
  it.
• 41:00
  The
• 41:00
  fireproof
• 41:01
  nature
• 41:01
  is
• 41:02
  really
• 41:02
  interesting
• 41:02
  of
• 41:03
  asbestos.
• 41:03
  And
• 41:04
  I
• 41:04
  think
• 41:04
  to
• 41:04
  myself,
• 41:05
  like,
• 41:05
  my
• 41:05
  grandfather
• 41:06
  died
• 41:06
  of
• 41:06
  cancer
• 41:07
  in
• 41:07
  part
• 41:08
  because
• 41:08
  he
• 41:08
  was
• 41:08
  exposed
• 41:08
  to
• 41:09
  asbestos
• 41:09
  on
• 41:09
  World
• 41:10
  War
• 41:10
  II
• 41:10
  ships.
• 41:11
  Would
• 41:11
  the
• 41:11
  world
• 41:11
  have
• 41:11
  been
• 41:11
  a
• 41:12
  better
• 41:12
  place
• 41:12
  if
• 41:12
  he
• 41:12
  would
• 41:12
  have
• 41:13
  burned
• 41:13
  to
• 41:13
  death
• 41:13
  at
• 41:13
  sea?
• 41:14
  Probably
• 41:15
  not.
• 41:15
  You're
• 41:16
  trading
• 41:16
  lives
• 41:17
  and
• 41:17
  when
• 41:17
  you
• 41:17
  have
• 41:18
  safety
• 41:18
  things,
• 41:18
  it's
• 41:19
  all
• 41:19
  trade
• 41:19
  offs.
• 41:20
  The
• 41:20
  problem
• 41:21
  was
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  big
• 41:21
  companies
• 41:22
  wanted
• 41:23
  to
• 41:23
  make
• 41:23
  those
• 41:23
  trade
• 41:23
  offs
• 41:24
  for
• 41:24
  you
• 41:24
  and
• 41:24
  not
• 41:25
  even
• 41:25
  tell
• 41:25
  you
• 41:25
  about
• 41:25
  it.
• 41:26
  You
• 41:26
  should
• 41:26
  know
• 41:27
  your
• 41:27
  risks
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  make
• 41:27
  your
• 41:28
  decisions
• 41:28
  accordingly.
• 41:30
  Makes
• 41:30
  sense.
• 41:31
  Justinian,
• 41:31
  what
• 41:32
  should
• 41:32
  someone
• 41:32
  do
• 41:32
  if
• 41:33
  they're
• 41:33
  a
• 41:33
  homeowner
• 41:34
  and
• 41:35
  they
• 41:36
  hired
• 41:36
  a
• 41:36
  company
• 41:36
  to
• 41:37
  come
• 41:37
  in
• 41:37
  and
• 41:38
  do
• 41:39
  their
• 41:39
  maybe
• 41:39
  kitchen
• 41:40
  or
• 41:40
  bath
• 41:40
  or
• 41:41
  whole
• 41:41
  house
• 41:41
  remodel
• 41:42
  and
• 41:42
  they
• 41:42
  see
• 41:43
  that
• 41:43
  things
• 41:44
  weren't
• 41:44
  done
• 41:44
  correctly,
• 41:45
  that
• 41:45
  maybe
• 41:45
  their
• 41:46
  contractor
• 41:46
  took
• 41:47
  some
• 41:47
  shortcuts
• 41:48
  and
• 41:48
  could
• 41:48
  have
• 41:49
  run
• 41:49
  into
• 41:49
  some
• 41:49
  serious
• 41:50
  asbestos
• 41:50
  issues
• 41:51
  and
• 41:51
  they
• 41:52
  come
• 41:52
  in
• 41:52
  after
• 41:52
  the
• 41:53
  fact.
• 41:53
  The
• 41:54
  first
• 41:54
  thing
• 41:54
  I'd
• 41:54
  want
• 41:54
  to
• 41:54
  do
• 41:55
  in
• 41:55
  such
• 41:55
  a
• 41:55
  situation
• 41:55
  is
• 41:56
  get
• 41:56
  some
• 41:56
  testing
• 41:57
  done,
• 41:57
  some
• 41:57
  samples
• 41:57
  of
• 41:58
  some
• 41:58
  materials,
• 41:58
  maybe
• 41:59
  some
• 41:59
  air
• 41:59
  samples
• 42:00
  to
• 42:00
  see
• 42:00
  if
• 42:01
  there's
• 42:01
  an
• 42:01
  issue.
• 42:01
  Maybe
• 42:02
  there's
• 42:02
  not.
• 42:02
  And
• 42:02
  the
• 42:03
  sloppy
• 42:03
  contractor
• 42:04
  didn't
• 42:04
  cause
• 42:04
  any
• 42:04
  issues.
• 42:05
  But
• 42:05
  if
• 42:05
  there
• 42:06
  are,
• 42:06
  and
• 42:06
  you
• 42:06
  are
• 42:07
  seeing
• 42:07
  those
• 42:07
  materials
• 42:08
  that
• 42:09
  shouldn't
• 42:09
  have
• 42:09
  been
• 42:09
  there
• 42:09
  and
• 42:10
  yet
• 42:10
  the
• 42:10
  air
• 42:10
  sampling
• 42:11
  is
• 42:11
  not
• 42:11
  turning
• 42:11
  out
• 42:11
  well,
• 42:12
  you
• 42:12
  might
• 42:12
  have
• 42:13
  some
• 42:13
  recourse
• 42:13
  against
• 42:13
  the
• 42:14
  contractor.
• 42:15
  We
• 42:15
  don't
• 42:15
  really
• 42:15
  do
• 42:15
  the
• 42:16
  property
• 42:17
  damage
• 42:17
  that
• 42:17
  we
• 42:17
  call
• 42:17
  that.
• 42:18
  I'm
• 42:18
  aware
• 42:18
  of
• 42:18
  how
• 42:18
  those
• 42:19
  procedures
• 42:19
  work,
• 42:19
  but
• 42:19
  we
• 42:20
  really
• 42:20
  help
• 42:20
  the
• 42:20
  folks
• 42:20
  that
• 42:21
  get
• 42:21
  sick.
• 42:21
  I
• 42:22
  will
• 42:22
  say
• 42:22
  that
• 42:22
  if
• 42:22
  you're
• 42:23
  going
• 42:23
  to
• 42:23
  do
• 42:23
  a
• 42:23
  remodel,
• 42:24
  you
• 42:24
  might
• 42:24
  want
• 42:25
  something
• 42:25
  in
• 42:25
  your
• 42:25
  contract
• 42:26
  with
• 42:26
  the
• 42:26
  contractor
• 42:27
  about
• 42:27
  a
• 42:28
  special
• 42:28
  justice,
• 42:28
  that
• 42:28
  if
• 42:29
  they
• 42:29
  find
• 42:29
  it,
• 42:29
  they
• 42:29
  will
• 42:30
  do
• 42:30
  A,
• 42:30
  B
• 42:30
  or
• 42:30
  C,
• 42:31
  or
• 42:31
  notify
• 42:31
  you.
• 42:32
  The
• 42:32
  first
• 42:32
  thing
• 42:33
  is
• 42:33
  protect
• 42:33
  yourself
• 42:34
  from
• 42:34
  the
• 42:34
  start.
• 42:34
  And
• 42:35
  then
• 42:35
  they
• 42:35
  might
• 42:35
  be
• 42:35
  on
• 42:35
  the
• 42:36
  hook.
• 42:36
  If
• 42:36
  they
• 42:36
  screw
• 42:37
  those
• 42:37
  things
• 42:37
  up,
• 42:37
  you
• 42:38
  can
• 42:38
  make
• 42:38
  them
• 42:38
  pay
• 42:39
  to
• 42:39
  get
• 42:39
  the
• 42:40
  things
• 42:40
  done
• 42:40
  properly.
• 42:41
  And
• 42:42
  I
• 42:42
  would
• 42:42
  say
• 42:42
  too,
• 42:42
  if
• 42:42
  you
• 42:43
  own
• 42:43
  an
• 42:43
  old
• 42:43
  home
• 42:44
  and
• 42:44
  you
• 42:44
  think
• 42:45
  that
• 42:45
  there
• 42:45
  could
• 42:45
  be
• 42:46
  under
• 42:46
  the
• 42:46
  three
• 42:46
  layers
• 42:47
  of
• 42:47
  flooring
• 42:47
  or
• 42:47
  whatever,
• 42:48
  make
• 42:48
  sure
• 42:48
  that
• 42:48
  your
• 42:49
  insurance
• 42:49
  policy
• 42:49
  is
• 42:50
  going
• 42:50
  to
• 42:50
  cover
• 42:50
  that
• 42:50
  abatement.
• 42:51
  Otherwise
• 42:51
  that's
• 42:51
  going
• 42:51
  to
• 42:52
  be
• 42:52
  something.
• 42:52
  You're
• 42:52
  on
• 42:52
  the
• 42:53
  hook
• 42:53
  if
• 42:53
  you
• 42:53
  have
• 42:53
  a
• 42:53
  water
• 42:54
  leak
• 42:54
  or
• 42:54
  someplace
• 42:55
  like
• 42:55
  that.
• 42:55
  Because
• 42:55
  many
• 42:55
  times
• 42:56
  those
• 42:56
  floors
• 42:56
  were
• 42:56
  used
• 42:57
  in
• 42:57
  wet
• 42:57
  areas,
• 42:57
  whether
• 42:58
  it's
• 42:58
  a
• 42:58
  kitchen,
• 42:58
  bathroom,
• 42:59
  or
• 42:59
  an
• 42:59
  entryway
• 42:59
  or
• 43:00
  something,
• 43:00
  something
• 43:00
  like
• 43:00
  that.
• 43:00
  Because
• 43:00
  they
• 43:00
  wanted
• 43:01
  something
• 43:01
  durable.
• 43:02
  Definitely.
• 43:03
  It's
• 43:03
  a
• 43:03
  very
• 43:03
  durable
• 43:04
  material.
• 43:04
  I
• 43:05
  was
• 43:05
  reading
• 43:05
  one
• 43:05
  of
• 43:06
  the
• 43:06
  asbestos
• 43:06
  companies,
• 43:07
  they
• 43:07
  built.
• 43:07
  They
• 43:08
  built
• 43:08
  a
• 43:08
  shack
• 43:08
  to
• 43:09
  protect
• 43:09
  some
• 43:09
  pump
• 43:10
  or
• 43:10
  whatever
• 43:10
  out
• 43:10
  of
• 43:10
  transite
• 43:11
  the
• 43:11
  concrete
• 43:12
  that
• 43:12
  was
• 43:12
  really
• 43:12
  reinforced
• 43:12
  with
• 43:13
  asbestos.
• 43:14
  And
• 43:14
  they
• 43:14
  were
• 43:14
  curious,
• 43:15
  50
• 43:15
  years
• 43:15
  later,
• 43:16
  they
• 43:17
  had
• 43:17
  to
• 43:17
  tear
• 43:17
  it
• 43:17
  down.
• 43:17
  How
• 43:18
  much
• 43:18
  did
• 43:18
  this
• 43:18
  stuff
• 43:18
  wear?
• 43:19
  It
• 43:19
  had
• 43:20
  nowhere
• 43:20
  in
• 43:21
  50
• 43:21
  years,
• 43:21
  it
• 43:22
  was
• 43:22
  still
• 43:22
  the
• 43:22
  same
• 43:22
  thickness.
• 43:23
  And
• 43:23
  they
• 43:23
  actually
• 43:24
  ended
• 43:24
  up
• 43:24
  saying,
• 43:25
  we
• 43:25
  will
• 43:25
  warranty
• 43:26
  the
• 43:26
  asbestos
• 43:27
  that
• 43:27
  we
• 43:27
  make
• 43:28
  longer
• 43:28
  than
• 43:29
  will
• 43:29
  warranty
• 43:29
  any
• 43:30
  of
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  steel
• 43:30
  you
• 43:31
  attach
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  it.
• 43:31
  Wow.
• 43:32
  Like,
• 43:32
  it's
• 43:33
  crazy
• 43:33
  durable.
• 43:33
  It's
• 43:34
  a
• 43:34
  rock.
• 43:34
  Rocks
• 43:34
  don't.
• 43:35
  They
• 43:35
  don't
• 43:35
  really
• 43:35
  die
• 43:36
  like
• 43:36
  that.
• 43:36
  So,
• 43:37
  yeah,
• 43:37
  the,
• 43:37
  the
• 43:38
  durability
• 43:38
  of
• 43:38
  it
• 43:38
  is
• 43:38
  why
• 43:39
  it
• 43:39
  was
• 43:39
  so
• 43:39
  popular
• 43:40
  and
• 43:40
  why
• 43:40
  it's
• 43:40
  so
• 43:40
  hazardous
• 43:41
  to
• 43:41
  the
• 43:41
  health
• 43:42
  and
• 43:42
  all
• 43:43
  of
• 43:43
  that.
• 43:43
  Yeah,
• 43:44
  that
• 43:44
  makes
• 43:44
  perfectly
• 43:45
  good
• 43:45
  sense.
• 43:46
  And
• 43:46
  then
• 43:46
  there's
• 43:46
  the
• 43:46
  people
• 43:47
  out
• 43:47
  there
• 43:47
  that
• 43:47
  maybe
• 43:48
  their
• 43:48
  dad
• 43:48
  was
• 43:48
  working
• 43:49
  in
• 43:49
  a
• 43:49
  mine,
• 43:49
  maybe
• 43:50
  they
• 43:50
  were
• 43:50
  working
• 43:50
  in
• 43:51
  industry
• 43:51
  out
• 43:52
  there,
• 43:52
  or
• 43:52
  even
• 43:53
  on
• 43:53
  World
• 43:53
  War
• 43:53
  II
• 43:54
  ships,
• 43:54
  and
• 43:54
  all
• 43:54
  of
• 43:54
  a
• 43:54
  sudden
• 43:55
  they're
• 43:55
  getting
• 43:55
  sick.
• 43:56
  What
• 43:56
  should
• 43:56
  they
• 43:56
  be
• 43:56
  doing?
• 43:57
  Yeah,
• 43:57
  if
• 43:57
  somebody
• 43:58
  was
• 43:58
  exposed
• 43:59
  decades
• 43:59
  ago,
• 43:59
  they
• 44:00
  might
• 44:00
  have
• 44:00
  some
• 44:00
  legal
• 44:01
  recourse.
• 44:01
  I
• 44:01
  know
• 44:01
  we
• 44:02
  offer
• 44:02
  free
• 44:02
  asbestos
• 44:03
  health
• 44:03
  testing
• 44:04
  to
• 44:04
  people
• 44:04
  that
• 44:04
  would
• 44:04
  have
• 44:04
  worked
• 44:05
  in
• 44:05
  that
• 44:05
  era.
• 44:05
  The
• 44:06
  way
• 44:06
  that
• 44:06
  you
• 44:06
  test
• 44:06
  asbestos
• 44:07
  causes
• 44:08
  certain
• 44:08
  types
• 44:09
  of
• 44:09
  damage
• 44:09
  to
• 44:09
  the
• 44:09
  lung,
• 44:10
  just
• 44:10
  like
• 44:10
  silica.
• 44:11
  Silica
• 44:12
  tends
• 44:12
  to
• 44:12
  damage
• 44:12
  the
• 44:13
  top
• 44:13
  part
• 44:13
  of
• 44:13
  your
• 44:13
  lung.
• 44:13
  Asbestos
• 44:14
  tends
• 44:14
  to
• 44:14
  damage
• 44:15
  the
• 44:15
  bottom
• 44:15
  and
• 44:16
  they
• 44:16
  leave
• 44:16
  their
• 44:16
  own
• 44:16
  unique
• 44:16
  fingerprint.
• 44:17
  So
• 44:17
  you
• 44:18
  can
• 44:18
  get
• 44:18
  an
• 44:18
  X
• 44:18
  ray
• 44:19
  and
• 44:19
  specially
• 44:20
  trained
• 44:20
  doctors
• 44:21
  can
• 44:21
  tell
• 44:21
  the
• 44:21
  difference.
• 44:22
  I've
• 44:22
  looked
• 44:22
  at
• 44:23
  thousands
• 44:23
  of
• 44:23
  X
• 44:23
  rays.
• 44:23
  I
• 44:24
  can
• 44:24
  barely
• 44:24
  see
• 44:24
  it
• 44:24
  myself.
• 44:25
  But
• 44:25
  they've
• 44:25
  got
• 44:25
  better
• 44:26
  eyes
• 44:26
  and
• 44:26
  they
• 44:27
  can
• 44:27
  see
• 44:27
  these
• 44:28
  little
• 44:28
  squiggles
• 44:28
  that
• 44:29
  look
• 44:29
  like
• 44:29
  ground
• 44:30
  glass.
• 44:30
  And
• 44:30
  that's
• 44:31
  scar
• 44:31
  tissue.
• 44:32
  What
• 44:32
  the
• 44:32
  asbestos
• 44:33
  does
• 44:33
  is
• 44:33
  it
• 44:34
  damages
• 44:34
  your
• 44:34
  real
• 44:34
  lung
• 44:35
  tissue
• 44:35
  and
• 44:35
  turns
• 44:36
  it
• 44:36
  into
• 44:36
  just.
• 44:37
  If
• 44:37
  you
• 44:37
  cut
• 44:37
  your
• 44:37
  hand
• 44:37
  and
• 44:38
  you
• 44:38
  get
• 44:38
  a
• 44:38
  scar,
• 44:38
  it's
• 44:38
  a
• 44:38
  little
• 44:39
  collagen
• 44:39
  matter
• 44:39
  and
• 44:39
  it
• 44:40
  just
• 44:40
  doesn't
• 44:40
  work.
• 44:41
  But
• 44:41
  those
• 44:41
  scars
• 44:41
  can
• 44:42
  show
• 44:42
  up.
• 44:42
  And
• 44:43
  if
• 44:43
  you
• 44:43
  have
• 44:43
  scarring
• 44:43
  on
• 44:44
  your
• 44:44
  lungs,
• 44:44
  you
• 44:45
  could
• 44:45
  have
• 44:45
  some
• 44:45
  compensation
• 44:46
  options
• 44:47
  if,
• 44:47
  God
• 44:47
  forbid,
• 44:48
  somebody
• 44:48
  has
• 44:48
  mesothelioma
• 44:49
  that's
• 44:50
  almost
• 44:50
  exclusively
• 44:51
  caused
• 44:51
  by
• 44:51
  asbestos.
• 44:52
  There's
• 44:52
  asbestos
• 44:52
  exposure
• 44:53
  in
• 44:53
  their
• 44:53
  past
• 44:54
  and
• 44:54
  then
• 44:54
  lung
• 44:55
  cancer.
• 44:55
  My
• 44:56
  grandparents
• 44:56
  were
• 44:56
  both
• 44:57
  smokers,
• 44:57
  so
• 44:57
  I
• 44:57
  just
• 44:57
  assumed
• 44:58
  that's
• 44:58
  what
• 44:58
  did
• 44:58
  it.
• 44:59
  But
• 44:59
  I
• 44:59
  learned
• 45:00
  that
• 45:00
  if
• 45:00
  you
• 45:01
  smoked
• 45:01
  and
• 45:02
  you
• 45:02
  were
• 45:02
  exposed
• 45:02
  to
• 45:02
  asbestos,
• 45:03
  you
• 45:04
  are
• 45:04
  substantially
• 45:05
  more
• 45:05
  likely
• 45:05
  to
• 45:05
  get
• 45:06
  lung
• 45:06
  cancer
• 45:06
  than
• 45:07
  if
• 45:07
  you
• 45:07
  were
• 45:07
  just
• 45:08
  exposed
• 45:08
  to
• 45:08
  asbestos
• 45:09
  or
• 45:09
  were
• 45:09
  just
• 45:09
  a
• 45:09
  smoker.
• 45:10
  They
• 45:10
  call
• 45:11
  it
• 45:11
  a
• 45:11
  synergistic
• 45:12
  effect.
• 45:12
  It's
• 45:12
  more
• 45:13
  like
• 45:13
  a
• 45:13
  multiplier.
• 45:14
  It's
• 45:14
  not.
• 45:14
  You're
• 45:15
  five
• 45:15
  times
• 45:15
  more
• 45:15
  likely
• 45:16
  here
• 45:16
  and
• 45:16
  five
• 45:16
  times
• 45:17
  more
• 45:17
  likely
• 45:17
  there.
• 45:17
  So
• 45:18
  it's
• 45:18
  10
• 45:18
  times.
• 45:19
  You
• 45:19
  multiply
• 45:19
  them
• 45:20
  and
• 45:20
  they'll
• 45:20
  say
• 45:20
  it's
• 45:21
  50
• 45:21
  to
• 45:21
  90
• 45:21
  times.
• 45:22
  Wow.
• 45:22
  So
• 45:22
  what
• 45:23
  I
• 45:23
  tell
• 45:23
  people
• 45:24
  is
• 45:24
  don't
• 45:25
  blame
• 45:25
  just
• 45:25
  the
• 45:25
  cigarette
• 45:26
  companies.
• 45:27
  Asbestos
• 45:28
  did
• 45:28
  this
• 45:28
  too,
• 45:29
  and
• 45:29
  they
• 45:29
  have
• 45:29
  liability
• 45:30
  for
• 45:30
  that.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:31
  the
• 45:31
  treatments,
• 45:32
  very
• 45:32
  expensive
• 45:33
  for
• 45:33
  cancer
• 45:33
  chemotherapy,
• 45:34
  things
• 45:34
  like
• 45:35
  that.
• 45:35
  Don't
• 45:36
  make
• 45:36
  your
• 45:36
  family
• 45:36
  suffer
• 45:37
  that
• 45:37
  burden.
• 45:37
  Make
• 45:37
  the
• 45:37
  people
• 45:37
  who
• 45:38
  did
• 45:38
  this
• 45:38
  pay
• 45:38
  for
• 45:38
  that.
• 45:38
  That.
• 45:39
  Good
• 45:40
  call.
• 45:40
  Good
• 45:40
  call.
• 45:41
  Or
• 45:41
  running
• 45:42
  out
• 45:42
  of
• 45:42
  time.
• 45:43
  What
• 45:43
  have
• 45:43
  we
• 45:44
  missed
• 45:44
  and
• 45:44
  not
• 45:44
  talked
• 45:45
  about
• 45:45
  today?
• 45:46
  Let
• 45:46
  me
• 45:46
  think.
• 45:46
  What.
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  guess
• 45:48
  what
• 45:48
  I'd
• 45:48
  like
• 45:49
  to
• 45:49
  stress
• 45:49
  for
• 45:50
  asbestos
• 45:51
  is
• 45:52
  it
• 45:52
  was
• 45:53
  in
• 45:53
  any
• 45:54
  device
• 45:55
  or
• 45:55
  product
• 45:56
  or
• 45:56
  building
• 45:56
  you
• 45:56
  could
• 45:57
  think
• 45:57
  of
• 45:57
  for
• 45:58
  about
• 45:58
  50
• 45:58
  years.
• 45:59
  They
• 45:59
  put
• 46:00
  it
• 46:00
  in
• 46:00
  so
• 46:00
  many
• 46:01
  things
• 46:01
  you'd
• 46:01
  have
• 46:01
  never
• 46:01
  thought
• 46:01
  of.
• 46:02
  I
• 46:02
  have
• 46:02
  a
• 46:03
  wonderful
• 46:03
  drink
• 46:04
  serving
• 46:04
  tray
• 46:04
  from,
• 46:05
  I
• 46:05
  believe
• 46:05
  it
• 46:05
  was
• 46:06
  John's
• 46:06
  Manville,
• 46:07
  showing
• 46:07
  that
• 46:07
  the
• 46:07
  best
• 46:08
  name
• 46:08
  in
• 46:08
  beer
• 46:08
  is
• 46:09
  John's
• 46:09
  Manville.
• 46:10
  Because
• 46:10
  every
• 46:10
  beer
• 46:11
  manufacturer
• 46:12
  filtered
• 46:12
  asbestos.
• 46:13
  They
• 46:13
  filtered
• 46:13
  their
• 46:14
  beer
• 46:14
  through
• 46:14
  that.
• 46:15
  I
• 46:15
  don't
• 46:15
  know
• 46:15
  which
• 46:16
  company.
• 46:16
  I've
• 46:16
  been
• 46:16
  trying
• 46:17
  to
• 46:17
  find
• 46:17
  out
• 46:17
  for
• 46:17
  years,
• 46:17
  but
• 46:18
  I
• 46:18
  know
• 46:18
  one
• 46:18
  company
• 46:18
  used
• 46:19
  it
• 46:19
  as
• 46:19
  a
• 46:19
  filler
• 46:19
  in
• 46:20
  dog
• 46:20
  food.
• 46:21
  I
• 46:21
  can't
• 46:21
  imagine
• 46:22
  that.
• 46:22
  Wow.
• 46:22
  In
• 46:23
  dog
• 46:23
  food.
• 46:23
  Yeah.
• 46:24
  You're
• 46:24
  not
• 46:24
  supposed
• 46:24
  to
• 46:24
  eat
• 46:25
  it,
• 46:25
  by
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  way,
• 46:25
  but
• 46:26
  they
• 46:26
  would
• 46:26
  put
• 46:27
  it
• 46:27
  in
• 46:27
  any
• 46:28
  possible
• 46:28
  thing
• 46:28
  that
• 46:29
  they
• 46:29
  could.
• 46:29
  So
• 46:30
  don't
• 46:30
  just
• 46:30
  assume
• 46:31
  something
• 46:31
  is
• 46:32
  safe
• 46:32
  I
• 46:32
  have
• 46:32
  pieces
• 46:33
  of
• 46:33
  little
• 46:33
  toy
• 46:33
  train
• 46:33
  set
• 46:34
  sets
• 46:34
  that
• 46:34
  were
• 46:34
  made
• 46:35
  with
• 46:35
  asbestos.
• 46:35
  Your
• 46:36
  child
• 46:36
  is
• 46:36
  playing
• 46:36
  with
• 46:37
  it.
• 46:37
  It
• 46:37
  was
• 46:38
  as
• 46:38
  common
• 46:38
  in
• 46:39
  the
• 46:39
  50s,
• 46:39
  60s
• 46:40
  and
• 46:40
  70s
• 46:40
  as
• 46:41
  plastic
• 46:41
  is
• 46:42
  today.
• 46:43
  Wow,
• 46:44
  that
• 46:44
  is
• 46:44
  massive.
• 46:45
  If
• 46:45
  somebody
• 46:45
  needs
• 46:45
  help
• 46:46
  out
• 46:46
  there
• 46:46
  with
• 46:47
  any
• 46:47
  of
• 46:47
  these
• 46:47
  issues,
• 46:48
  how
• 46:48
  do
• 46:49
  they
• 46:49
  track
• 46:49
  you
• 46:49
  down?
• 46:50
  Sure.
• 46:51
  My
• 46:51
  website
• 46:51
  is
• 46:52
  AsbestosClaims
• 46:53
  Law.
• 46:53
  You
• 46:54
  can
• 46:54
  find
• 46:54
  us
• 46:54
  there.
• 46:54
  Or
• 46:54
  if
• 46:55
  you
• 46:55
  have
• 46:55
  questions,
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  phone
• 46:56
  number
• 46:56
  is
• 46:56
  really
• 46:56
  easy.
• 46:57
  8,
• 46:57
  3,
• 46:58
  3,
• 46:58
  4.
• 46:58
  Asbestos.
• 46:59
  That's
• 47:00
  all
• 47:00
  we
• 47:00
  do
• 47:00
  as
• 47:00
  asbestos.
• 47:01
  I'm
• 47:01
  about
• 47:01
  as
• 47:01
  immersed
• 47:02
  in
• 47:02
  it
• 47:02
  as
• 47:02
  anybody
• 47:02
  could
• 47:03
  possibly
• 47:03
  be.
• 47:04
  And
• 47:04
  even
• 47:05
  I
• 47:05
  tell
• 47:05
  people
• 47:05
  like
• 47:05
  I
• 47:06
  come
• 47:06
  on
• 47:06
  shows
• 47:06
  like
• 47:06
  this,
• 47:06
  anybody
• 47:07
  today
• 47:07
  who's
• 47:08
  exposed
• 47:08
  with
• 47:08
  asbestos,
• 47:10
  by
• 47:10
  the
• 47:10
  time
• 47:10
  they
• 47:10
  get
• 47:10
  sick,
• 47:11
  I'm
• 47:11
  either
• 47:11
  going
• 47:12
  to
• 47:12
  be
• 47:12
  dead
• 47:12
  or
• 47:12
  retired.
• 47:13
  I'm
• 47:13
  trying
• 47:13
  to
• 47:13
  make
• 47:14
  sure
• 47:14
  people
• 47:14
  don't
• 47:14
  get
• 47:15
  sick
• 47:15
  30,
• 47:16
  40,
• 47:16
  50
• 47:16
  years
• 47:17
  from
• 47:17
  now,
• 47:17
  even
• 47:17
  after
• 47:17
  I'm
• 47:18
  gone.
• 47:18
  I'm
• 47:18
  trying
• 47:18
  to
• 47:19
  tell
• 47:19
  a
• 47:19
  story
• 47:20
  that
• 47:20
  the
• 47:20
  companies
• 47:21
  never
• 47:21
  really
• 47:21
  put
• 47:21
  out
• 47:22
  there
• 47:22
  and
• 47:22
  make
• 47:23
  sure
• 47:23
  that
• 47:23
  to
• 47:24
  whatever
• 47:24
  end,
• 47:24
  we
• 47:24
  can
• 47:25
  put
• 47:25
  a
• 47:26
  period
• 47:26
  on
• 47:26
  this
• 47:26
  tragedy.
• 47:27
  Yeah,
• 47:28
  it
• 47:28
  makes
• 47:28
  sense.
• 47:28
  And
• 47:28
  I
• 47:29
  was
• 47:29
  just
• 47:29
  thinking
• 47:29
  too
• 47:29
  that
• 47:30
  how
• 47:30
  many
• 47:30
  garbage
• 47:30
  men
• 47:31
  and
• 47:31
  people
• 47:31
  working
• 47:32
  in
• 47:32
  the
• 47:33
  waste
• 47:33
  management
• 47:34
  type
• 47:34
  of
• 47:34
  business,
• 47:34
  not
• 47:35
  the
• 47:35
  company,
• 47:35
  but
• 47:35
  the
• 47:36
  people
• 47:36
  managing
• 47:36
  our
• 47:36
  waste
• 47:37
  out
• 47:37
  there,
• 47:38
  how
• 47:38
  many
• 47:38
  times
• 47:38
  those
• 47:39
  people
• 47:39
  have
• 47:39
  been
• 47:39
  exposed
• 47:40
  over
• 47:40
  the
• 47:40
  years
• 47:40
  as
• 47:40
  well?
• 47:41
  And
• 47:41
  that's
• 47:41
  just
• 47:41
  mind
• 47:41
  boggling
• 47:42
  to
• 47:42
  think
• 47:42
  of
• 47:42
  those
• 47:42
  numbers
• 47:43
  because
• 47:44
  all
• 47:44
  those
• 47:44
  materials
• 47:45
  in
• 47:45
  your
• 47:45
  house,
• 47:45
  when
• 47:45
  they
• 47:46
  were
• 47:46
  broken
• 47:46
  or
• 47:46
  anything
• 47:47
  else
• 47:47
  got
• 47:47
  thrown
• 47:48
  in
• 47:48
  the
• 47:48
  trash.
• 47:49
  Absolutely.
• 47:50
  And
• 47:50
  if
• 47:50
  you
• 47:51
  have
• 47:51
  unethical
• 47:51
  contractors
• 47:52
  that
• 47:52
  aren't
• 47:52
  doing
• 47:53
  proper
• 47:53
  abatement,
• 47:53
  they're
• 47:54
  exposing
• 47:54
  the
• 47:54
  sanitation
• 47:55
  workers
• 47:55
  too.
• 47:56
  It
• 47:56
  doesn't
• 47:57
  just
• 47:57
  go
• 47:57
  into
• 47:57
  a
• 47:57
  landfill,
• 47:58
  never
• 47:58
  to
• 47:58
  be
• 47:58
  seen
• 47:58
  again.
• 47:59
  That
• 47:59
  dust
• 48:00
  will
• 48:00
  go
• 48:00
  everywhere.
• 48:00
  It'll
• 48:01
  flow
• 48:01
  out
• 48:01
  of
• 48:01
  the
• 48:01
  back
• 48:01
  of
• 48:01
  the
• 48:01
  trash
• 48:02
  can
• 48:02
  into
• 48:02
  or
• 48:02
  into
• 48:03
  a
• 48:03
  neighborhood.
• 48:04
  It's
• 48:04
  just,
• 48:04
  it's
• 48:05
  really
• 48:05
  dangerous
• 48:06
  stuff
• 48:06
  that
• 48:06
  people
• 48:06
  should
• 48:07
  pay
• 48:07
  at
• 48:07
  least
• 48:07
  a
• 48:08
  little
• 48:08
  bit
• 48:08
  of
• 48:08
  attention
• 48:08
  to,
• 48:09
  if
• 48:09
  not
• 48:09
  for
• 48:09
  themselves,
• 48:10
  for
• 48:10
  their
• 48:10
  children
• 48:10
  and
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  future
• 48:11
  generations.
• 48:12
  Justinian,
• 48:13
  thanks
• 48:13
  for
• 48:13
  coming
• 48:13
  on
• 48:14
  today,
• 48:14
  man.
• 48:14
  I
• 48:15
  love
• 48:15
  your
• 48:15
  knowledge
• 48:16
  on
• 48:16
  this
• 48:16
  and
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  hope
• 48:16
  that
• 48:17
  really
• 48:17
  helped
• 48:18
  our
• 48:18
  audience
• 48:18
  navigate
• 48:19
  this
• 48:19
  because
• 48:20
  there's
• 48:20
  just
• 48:20
  so
• 48:20
  much
• 48:21
  misinformation
• 48:22
  out
• 48:22
  there.
• 48:22
  I
• 48:22
  was
• 48:22
  happy
• 48:23
  to
• 48:23
  get
• 48:24
  this
• 48:24
  where
• 48:24
  we
• 48:24
  could
• 48:24
  clear
• 48:24
  it
• 48:24
  up
• 48:25
  a
• 48:25
  little
• 48:25
  bit
• 48:25
  for
• 48:25
  them.
• 48:26
  Thanks
• 48:26
  so
• 48:26
  much.
• 48:26
  I
• 48:27
  appreciate
• 48:27
  you
• 48:27
  the
• 48:27
  invite
• 48:28
  and
• 48:28
  had
• 48:28
  a
• 48:28
  great
• 48:28
  time
• 48:28
  on
• 48:29
  the
• 48:29
  show.
• 48:29
  Thanks
• 48:29
  man.
• 48:30
  It's
• 48:30
  been
• 48:30
  great.
• 48:30
  I'm
• 48:31
  Eric
• 48:31
  G.
• 48:32
  And
• 48:32
  you've
• 48:32
  been
• 48:32
  listening
• 48:33
  to
• 48:33
  around
• 48:34
  the
• 48:34
  House.