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421: Piotr Maruszewski on Oscillatory Isometrics and Angular Sprint Training · Just Fly Performance Podcast

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  Because we we... In the S and C
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  community, we can we can discuss the all
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  the benefits of supra maximal cedric
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  strength training. But I'm not really interested in
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  the supra maximum. I'm interested in the super
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  fast eccentric training. Trend training on this
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  their details were covered by Randy Huntington and
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  1 1 of your charts definite. So this
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  elastic based pumping type of action. The benefit
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  is the super fast eccentric piece of movement.
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  That was Peter Mir,
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  and you're listening to the Just performance podcast.
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  Welcome to another episode of the podcast, and
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  thanks for tuning in. This week's guest is
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  Peter Mer,
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  and he is 1 of the best speed
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  power coaches that you've likely never heard of.
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  Peter is a Sprints and Hurdles coach. The
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  University of Love, Poland. He's a strengthening conditioning
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  coach, He's held the position of Polish athletics
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  National team Coach and he's a current speed
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  climbing at national team coach for Poland.
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  Peter specializes in multi sports speed development and
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  is studied from some of the greatest coaching
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  minds in the world, and he's helped athletes
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  to incredible results along the way. On today's
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  podcast, Peter will speak of many aspects of
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  speed and power training,
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  including the nature of rhythm and hurt and
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  athletic movement. He'll talk about an angular approach
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  to sprint. He'll get into body weight isometric
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  holds and talk about his approach to us
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  Lat isometric training, this and much more on
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  the show today. It was awesome talking to
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  Peter. He's an absolutely brilliant mind. 1 last
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  thing as well is in the show notes
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  on just slice sports dot com. You can
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  see an example of the oscillator method that
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  Peter uses.
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  With his sprinter and athletes. It's something that's
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  certainly helpful to visualize so if you wanna
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  check that out and what that looks like
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  head to the show notes on just fly
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  sports dot com. That all being said, let's
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  get to the episode here with Peter Me.
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  Peter, 1 of the videos you had sent
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  me. I thought these were really interesting was
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  It was your daughter doing, like, gallo drills,
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  rhythm drills and doing hurt. And I'm I'm
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  thinking about that more and more, with my
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  children out. There... 6 and 8 land 5
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  months, so she's just barely crawling or getting
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  the crawling. But, what were some of the
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  things that defined,
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  the training
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  of your daughter over the years and how
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  has she progressed in hurt? I'd be really
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  interested to hear some of that.
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  Yeah. Yeah. She she my daughter 13 now
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  she's... Overall very a fit elastic and still
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  strong kind of athlete. So she she... She
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  shows some natural, like,
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  speed
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  talent, maybe that's too much, but definitely she's
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  the the, you know, pretty fast kit.
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  And my approach to kids coaching,
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  and hurdle coaching with kids absolutely
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  built around constrained that led approach.
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  So what I want to build at this
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  stage of her life like she's 13
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  until the moment she
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  might
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  compete at some point in the future
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  is to to really build the skill. So
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  in the past I was I was trying
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  Rush a little bit with the with the
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  speech training and with the speed development of
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  of, you know,
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  little children
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  or you know, young teenagers and I changed
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  my approach.
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  The time now is to build absolutely fearless
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  her.
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  And my
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  inspiration is is
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  or is the animal
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  kingdom. You know, like, the the
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  my dog rushing sprint across you know, the
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  woods is is not thinking about what what
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  he's doing or what she doing because I
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  have to lovely pit blues at my, you
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  house. So they're not thinking what they're doing
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  they're just doing that. So my idea of
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  of coaching hurt at this level is to
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  build the skill
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  and to make her feel less her link
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  without thinking how to do it. So
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  the gallo pink is is up absolutely the
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  the the step 1 and into her link.
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  So I can coach I can successfully coach
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  and to her anybody, and I need 15
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  minutes. Absolutely and it's not just it's not
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  just, you know,
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  clearing 1 hurdle. I can sell like a
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  5 or 10 hurdles, and anybody can can
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  maintain the rhythm because
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  the step 1 into hurting for me is
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  like the gallo pink. So you're always basically
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  what is gallo pink. It's like, you know,
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  it's like a running
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  through a cut step. And what is a
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  cut step is the step that you need
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  to clear the hurdle. So basically,
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  to avoid it any risk of of missing
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  the hurdle or hitting the hurdle with the
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  with a child is just to make them
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  make them being ready to create the hurdle
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  And if you gallo, you're always ready to
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  clear the hair. And it's natural way to
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  to show which will be your lead leg
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  which will be a trail leg. And you're
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  always ready to hurt Like. I can said
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  that you know the set of 10:12 hurdles
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  and the distance is totally random. But she
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  can always clear the hurdle because she's always
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  ready to clear the hurdle, and this is
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  my absolute number 1,
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  And what's important, I use the this training
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  modality also with the with a, like, a
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  pro hurdle like, you know, sub 13 seconds,
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  female hardware because female handling as is is
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  my specialty. I'm I'm not that mag to
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  into male herd. So what I want from
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  her now just to close the topic is
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  like to to be a feel less hurdle,
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  constrained led approach into into coaching.
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  So I'm not giving her instructions. I'm giving
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  her task
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  to solve.
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  And of course, what I need to maintain
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  is like a hip mobility,
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  which is which is a lot easier with
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  the girls, You know, be be if if
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  we maintain it trip puberty
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  then I'm fine. It's... The changes are around,
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  you know hip mobility
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  are easy easier to maintain among girls than
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  than boys.
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  And her absolute passion at this
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  stage of her life is dancing sync. So
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  she's
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  she's like she she's like a, you know,
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  a hip hop denser. So what she's doing
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  there? She's doing the rhythm training, and she's
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  got natural skills for rhythm. So she's dancing,
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  maintaining the rhythm.
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  I'm maintaining the the the field her link
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  through Yellow developing pink and
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  That's what I need. And and there will
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  be time for speed development
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  in the future. Also also my kind of
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  critics towards towards hurt in general are the
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  I
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  competition rules, which are crazy.
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  When I see, like, you know, 16 years
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  old girl who who are supposed to, you
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  know,
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  maintain a rhythm through 8 meter distance or
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  something that that's crazy. This this should really...
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  This should really grow with the with the
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  children development. So I'm gonna wait
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  until the moment that she's she's comfortable with
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  3 step
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  her. It's different than everybody does because it
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  doesn't... You you go through 5 steps or
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  4 steps,
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  training, you know, training bottlenecks legs.
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  I'm gonna wait
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  until she's comfortable with with, you know, Teresa
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  hurley. That's it.
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  Yeah.
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  1 of the reasons I I chose that
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  question
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  for the first 1 is just because I
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  I think that hurt
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  is this
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  intersection of athletic that brings
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  so many qualities together.
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  And a rhythm is 1 of those really
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  critical qualities. And I think like you said
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  the way that
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  I think things are often taught, especially unfortunately
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  to children, it's like, if, like, okay, you
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  know, move your arm here, or move your
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  leg here, This is how you do it.
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  And honestly, even, like, I'm coaching a high
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  school track and even in the scope of
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  working with older athletes in the hurdles. I
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  start with rhythm first. Like, let's do the
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  we do, like, the lead leg and the
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  then the trail drills, but I don't connect
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  anything. I'm like hey, Let's just do these
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  drills. And then we just do rhythm them.
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  And
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  if if you can get that first, and
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  then also like, you just
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  enjoy the environment problem solving. A lot of
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  those gaps can
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  close themselves over time. And it reminds me
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  of
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  Raf Kelly sort of video of his. I
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  think his son was 8 at the time
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  doing, like, a neighborhood track me.
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  And he ran the same speed the hurdles
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  as he did in the open, you know,
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  50 50 meter dash or whatever. So he
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  ran the same time with the hurdles because
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  He does so much nature parkour in Ninja.
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  I feel like it's almost like, this is
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  exciting now. Like, you know, and and it's
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  just natural.
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  And there was
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  his last thing I'll mention here is there
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  was a really good study. I think it
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  was somewhere in England.
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  I don't think it was... I don't think
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  it was Ing english Premier, it might have
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  been Scotland somewhere. III don't know the exact
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  place, but there was a study that was
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  showing the the highest skill of defensive players
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  later on. They tracked their training back. They
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  tracked their hours of play. They track when
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  they're first introduced the sport and the thing
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  that actually determine their top skill was free
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  play.
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  In how many hours of free play did
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  you have. And the way you're framing it
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  up, It's like even different dis... Random distances
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  of hurdles very distances. How can we play?
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  How can we have rhythm?
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  And it's just... I think that's valuable for
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  both younger athletes and I think it has
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  a lot of value for older athletes who
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  especially those were just learning. So I love
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  that you're doing that. Those videos you started
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  just so cool to. I think there was
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  like, course involved. Like 2 at some point
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  like yeah. It's it's it's like you you
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  that they call it, like a mini pony
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  or something. It's like because you know, I
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  think it's, like, you know,
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  boys growing up, they wanna be nights and
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  and and
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  firefighters or, you know,
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  You name it Or and the girls, they
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  they... At some point, they just, you know,
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  they'll... They they have, like, a passion for
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  her horses for equality jan even thought not
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  retraining.
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  And the the mini horses is lots of
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  fun. It was some point now she's 13.
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  So it's, you know, she finds her herself
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  a little bit.
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  More serious person, but when she was like
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  maybe 10. So I was even throwing the...
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  I was using the whole football field.
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  I mean, the soccer field, and I was
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  showing, like the
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  20 plus hurdles, the the different heights, you
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  know? And and they were they were not...
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  They were randomly thrown around the the whole
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  field. So it looked like a equestrian parkour.
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  So she felt like like that and here
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  she need to to make a left cut
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  right cut change the rhythm, and sometimes,
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  you know, a lot of, like, a single
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  step per link also,
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  because that happens in in in real
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  real full size question. So so I was
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  using the the the patients that that she
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  had over the years.
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  What what was her interest? What what what
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  was, you know, firing her up to put
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  into into our track and field. Training I'd
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  say. And you you know, you mentioned about
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  the rhythm. I mentioned about the rhythm you're
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  saying, you know, life happens in in in
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  cycles, and then we have the rhythm. We
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  have the frequencies and
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  through through those
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  setups, you you'll find the comfort. Basically,
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  are the the when when you manage the
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  rhythm in the in the in the little
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  kids
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  train, it's it's it's a play. I I
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  don't even call it a training, but... When
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  when you find
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  the rhythm of the play. They just strive.
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  They, they enjoy. They their... Their bodies and
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  mind just
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  appreciate the state. They are in due to
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  to maintaining some some rhythm or managing the
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  rhythm.
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  So that's that's how I I find. That
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  that that's why with people dance, you know,
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  the the the human beings has have been
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  dancing since thousands of years. So why not?
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  Yeah. I was just thinking you got me
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  thinking too about children and imagination, and I
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  wonder, you know, I I had seen a
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  little toy. It's like the horse like the
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  stick with the the head Yeah. The Toy
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  horse head on the end of it and
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  there... I didn't seen that sport with, like
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  the jumping. Like, I didn't even know those.
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  It's thing like these girls jumping over high
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  hurdles with the horse. So it's like what?
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  Oh, it's huge in Europe. You have, like,
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  a nationals. You have, like the European championships.
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  Like, I think it's like hobby horse Thing.
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  So you if you type in hobby horse.
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  It's huge in Europe. So it's it's quite
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  quite many times where you have, like, a
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  the really equestrian
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  competition. So like, the the pre event is
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  like they hobby horse when you had, like
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  those, you know, 10:10, 11 years old girls
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  who are just clearing, like, hurdles like,
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  on the hop house, which is great for
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  me. I even prefer, you know, my sister
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  wasn't an an an probably question when she
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  was, you know, your years back
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  So I... It's a risky sport. So I
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  never IIII
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  never meant to to have my daughter doing
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  any christian
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  more serious than just, you know,
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  you know, hanging around and and just for
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  having some fun in the saddle, but but
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  this thing is just just lovely.
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  Yeah. I I like how you mentioned your
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  your daughter does a hip hop dancing, And
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  I was just...
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  I just finished my first year coaching
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  at a local high school. And 1 of
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  the middle school high jumpers, she set the
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  middle school record this past year, and I
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  work with middle school as well there.
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  And well, it's interesting she... Because she runs
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  distance,
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  and then her dad's is a distance coach
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  and then she does hi jump. And she
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  still is jumping extremely high. And I'm... And
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  I know distance you could say building the
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  tendons and things like barefoot foot, but she
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  still has just this twitch and pop in
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  the takeoff, and her takeoff position is really
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  really good.
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  And I'm thinking myself, you know, how what
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  qualities emerged so that she could do these
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  things And then she told me, oh yeah,
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  I up dancing. I did dance all the
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  time. I did hip hop. I did tap.
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  I did all these things, and I'm like,
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  a, like, that's an ingredient in this equation
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  that's starting to make sense.
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  The, some of the speed on the approach
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  and things like that isn't there because I
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  think... And that's why
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  we're expanding her events out a little bit
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  to, like, trying get her in into 300
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  hurdles and things like that. A kind of
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  a halfway point between distance and high jump,
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  and as well as some pent half on
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  things, but it's it's so interesting when you
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  hear what Athlete did when they were younger,
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  and it starts to... Especially something that's that's
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  rhythm and tapping the fast, like the fast
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  feet, the fast twitch through the... Between the
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  heel and the toe and things like that.
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  Like that makes sense now. Yeah. And we
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  can we we can even look into into
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  mature athletes least. You know, then fast was
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  talking about, like, a modern just
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  tribal dancing you had Chris Cor,
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  just recently,
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  you, as your gas, and and you mentioned
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  the the Irish stop dancing, and it makes
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  so much sense and and anytime music is
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  involved, and the natural the natural rhythm rhythm
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  that has to follow the the music rhythm.
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  It's it's it's it's just pure joy for
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  anyone, you know, for for any
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  anybody loves to to dance and and and
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  when you
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  when this gives you also, like, a high
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  quality training, so, I think that's the best
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  way that the... That can happen to a
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  child. And the only thing
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  that I'm trying to
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  take care of. It's just taking shows off
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  whenever it's possible. So
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  I know when when she's in a class,
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  you know, it's, like the hip hop style,
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  sculpture, you know, the clothes, and, you know,
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  the hoo and and and
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  lose outfit, I I understand. I cannot interfere
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  because, you know, she's in the group there
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  and and there's a whole culture. Ma'am, I
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  I totally, I I absolutely respect that. But
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  whenever she's she's training at home, and she
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  do it all the time.
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  I just hey, take your shoes over and
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  I'm fine with that, then dance as long
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  as you as you wish. So then we
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  have all words combined in 1. Yeah. It's...
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  That process to development is certainly something that.
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  I think we... So off we just look
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  at the know, we look at the end.
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  We look at the branches of the tree
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  versus, like, you know, everything else that makes
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  that up. And so that leads me to.
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  I I know you've had a lot of
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  you know, influences,
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  mentors,
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  people that have influenced where you've landed now.
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  I think we even talked a little bit
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  before we push record. We I... You said
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  you're someone an integrator, And I feel like
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  I am in many ways too as well,
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  Like, someone who takes ideas and and then
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  I I guess we all are. You know,
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  maybe versus people who just have an idea
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  that's out of nowhere or What is this,
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  you know, in this totally new way of
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  thinking. But I'm really curious of of who
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  some of the strong
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  influences that you've had that have formulated the
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  way that you look at training.
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  You, the the tipping point of my my
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  way of of having a chance to be
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  influenced by great mine was meeting you, and
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  we were just trying to to recall was
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  a 20 15 or 20 16 plus minus
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  that was 1 of the earliest truck football
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  construction run by by Chris and Tony, in
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  Chicago where we met in person. You and
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  me. I had a chance.
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  And a pleasure to be in the in
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  the in the audio where you presented your
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  idea. And after that, I I approached to
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  you and
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  and ask you about this this guy from
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  from, you know, from San Francisco Area, Woodland
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  back then.
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  That there's the there's the genius around you.
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  And I know you have some connections, just
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  can you explain something about about him. And
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  I was asking about a Da bar at
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  that point and you said no.
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  Just don't don't don't don't try to find
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  a middle just
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  sit on a plane and just go visit
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  and and you need your own experience and
• 16:50
  that's what I did and
• 16:52
  absolutely the tipping point of of of me
• 16:55
  building my experience of
• 16:58
  being influence kind of thing. And so definitely
• 17:01
  a da bond. Then I had
• 17:04
  I had the pleasure to meet Randy Huntington
• 17:06
  in person. So that was I was I
• 17:08
  was following his
• 17:10
  his work for for many years and, you
• 17:12
  know, it's late eighties,
• 17:14
  and
• 17:15
  there was 20 19. I was in there
• 17:18
  was the world championships in in in Doha
• 17:20
  Ka.
• 17:21
  So
• 17:23
  And the funny thing is that the the
• 17:25
  the the the world championships in Doha. They
• 17:28
  were not covered by any tv in in
• 17:30
  Doha.
• 17:32
  For biden ton no reason that I I
• 17:34
  think that there could have been some...
• 17:37
  The female body exposure, things like that, which
• 17:40
  couldn't have been presented on Tv anyways. There
• 17:42
  was the the the the championships sits are
• 17:44
  the or absolutely great event. But
• 17:47
  we we were not spending, you know, the
• 17:49
  whole day long and in the stadium.
• 17:52
  So
• 17:53
  I was lucky that the Polish national team
• 17:55
  and I think the Canadians and and the
• 17:58
  Back in China was was based in 1
• 18:00
  hotel.
• 18:01
  And at the lobby of our hotel, that
• 18:02
  was a starbucks. So where everybody was paying
• 18:05
  in the whole days because I was, you
• 18:07
  know, a good coffee and good air condition.
• 18:09
  And at some point, at some point, I'm
• 18:11
  I'm watching my
• 18:12
  some polish revision coverage of the games that
• 18:14
  is is happening, you know, across the block.
• 18:18
  And there's this guy sitting, hey, Can I
• 18:19
  can I join you because there's is the
• 18:21
  there's a female high jump, and and you
• 18:23
  have the the the Tv coverage on your
• 18:25
  ipad And can I join with the coffee?
• 18:27
  I'm, you know, I'm I'm looking up and
• 18:28
  there's hand the Huntington and as store. God.
• 18:32
  Tango god, I had my ipad with me.
• 18:34
  So definitely
• 18:35
  Around around this
• 18:37
  work.
• 18:39
  Who you explode into very details over number
• 18:41
  of of chats with him definitely.
• 18:45
  So it was a short direct work with
• 18:47
  with him, III could have have some discussions
• 18:50
  back then,
• 18:51
  definitely Jerome Simeon.
• 18:53
  That was also,
• 18:56
  a very important person for me. We we
• 18:58
  we were in touch, somehow and again, 20
• 19:00
  19 door. I was like a what what
• 19:02
  was like a... It's important moment for me
• 19:04
  to be there and and and Jerome Simeon
• 19:06
  was like a link between the...
• 19:09
  He's 1 of the person who really...
• 19:12
  Explore deeply in and and and and into
• 19:15
  Jay Sc work. And now basically there's Chris
• 19:17
  Cor who I visited him a number of
• 19:19
  of times. So he's
• 19:22
  his famous basement.
• 19:24
  Mh. Trend facility at his house, it's that's
• 19:27
  1 in life. Lifetime I'm experienced to spend
• 19:30
  Some diane. I I enjoyed a lot. So
• 19:32
  I always... I tried a couple of times.
• 19:34
  IIII
• 19:35
  went to to today event truck food football
• 19:37
  or ans then I I usually spent. Like,
• 19:40
  a week or 2 either of either spending
• 19:42
  with Tommy Holler at his at his...
• 19:45
  I'm I'm not sure if he's, still active
• 19:47
  or or he retire as a as a
• 19:49
  chemistry coach, but anyway, he he. So I
• 19:51
  spent, like, a week week or 2 with
• 19:53
  Tony and he's
• 19:55
  at his high school and and and the
• 19:57
  evening every evening with
• 19:59
  with Chris Cor at his basement. So and
• 20:01
  we're in touch since. So over the years
• 20:03
  we Wear touch. And
• 20:06
  definitely, there was some some coaches who helped
• 20:08
  me a lot of the was also
• 20:10
  Vince Anderson,
• 20:11
  especially on the whole and the and the
• 20:13
  rhythm moon like the the the holding rhythm
• 20:17
  between the headless was like, we we we
• 20:19
  were touch and there were really, really
• 20:22
  interesting
• 20:23
  conversation we had over the years and and
• 20:25
  he opened my mind.
• 20:27
  Into specifically, you know, to train the rhythm
• 20:29
  in in between hurdles. You know, Vince anderson
• 20:31
  son and, last but not least absolutely,
• 20:35
  you know, So so I'm sure we'll touch
• 20:37
  this into little details
• 20:39
  a bit further, but definitely, Alex, at some
• 20:42
  point of my coaching development was. Was was
• 20:45
  a very important person.
• 20:46
  I mentioned Dr Sc never had a chance
• 20:48
  to really
• 20:50
  get into
• 20:51
  close
• 20:52
  from those who I never had a chance
• 20:54
  to meet since they passed away before I
• 20:56
  even try your absolutely Charlie Francis that he's
• 20:59
  a approach and
• 21:01
  into into sprint training and the yearly programming,
• 21:05
  huge influence
• 21:06
  influence over from his work and
• 21:08
  And there's also 1 coach. I want I
• 21:11
  want to mention there's there's been a genius
• 21:13
  coach even in Poland. He passed away, like,
• 21:15
  I think.
• 21:17
  20
• 21:18
  10 or something like that before I even
• 21:20
  get into
• 21:22
  into hurt coaching at at at 11 was
• 21:25
  Chap.
• 21:26
  It was he was the guy who in
• 21:28
  the early eighties, Poland Female holding was absolutely
• 21:32
  like like a powerhouse. There was a polish
• 21:34
  female heard.
• 21:36
  Were setting word records
• 21:38
  in the early eighties, and he was like
• 21:40
  a, like a decades
• 21:42
  above
• 21:43
  ahead of of his times.
• 21:45
  So
• 21:46
  I was able to to get into... It
• 21:48
  was not easy because
• 21:50
  almost nothing is been published online. Since he
• 21:53
  passed away before the
• 21:55
  before before the, you know, Google Youtube and
• 21:58
  stuff like that. He didn't publish too much,
• 22:00
  you know, real research. So I was sitting
• 22:02
  spending hours.
• 22:03
  The old school, you know, I'm I'm I'm
• 22:04
  I'm 50 years old. So it was... For
• 22:06
  me, it was normal. So I had to
• 22:07
  spend hours and the library. I was actually
• 22:10
  traveling across Poland because there was 1 university
• 22:13
  and and and in 1 city who... I
• 22:15
  knew I checked, they had, like, a 1
• 22:18
  article
• 22:19
  written by him. Then I traveled across the
• 22:21
  country to another city and and and so
• 22:23
  on out. So I was able to get
• 22:25
  in touch with his widow and she
• 22:27
  she she showed me his Phd on on...
• 22:30
  That never been published because he passed away
• 22:32
  just before she was able to publish and
• 22:35
  and and to really go into beaches, and
• 22:37
  I was able to explore his notes. His
• 22:39
  he's like, first, you know, training journals and
• 22:42
  and stuff like that, but I never met
• 22:44
  this guy in person, but absolutely my my
• 22:48
  approach to to
• 22:50
  elite level hurt.
• 22:52
  It's got nothing to do with what we
• 22:54
  discussed at the beginning about my daughter, but
• 22:55
  a elite level hardening, absolute. So so there
• 22:58
  was the genius guy who un for the
• 23:01
  unfortunately passed away too early like charlie f,
• 23:03
  by the way, same same store. So those
• 23:06
  those will be the the guys and maybe
• 23:09
  the john God
• 23:11
  john God but
• 23:13
  we get into it. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
• 23:16
  So looking at, you've obviously... You've had so
• 23:19
  many mentors and and collected from so many
• 23:23
  different coaches and systems.
• 23:25
  I think a good place to start is
• 23:27
  is the dairy and bars work. And just
• 23:29
  because I think so many of his ideas
• 23:31
  run or or seemingly, I guess, run counter
• 23:34
  do a lot of what is coached. And
• 23:36
  I'm curious to some of the main things
• 23:37
  that you took from him that you integrate
• 23:39
  with their athletes and how... And your lens
• 23:41
  of how to introduce it to them. Out
• 23:43
  to that for them to experience it.
• 23:46
  Yeah. The the introduction part, it's key. Because
• 23:49
  at the end of the year end, I'm
• 23:50
  not just, you know, f philosopher I'm not
• 23:52
  the researcher.
• 23:53
  I mean, know,
• 23:55
  my daily job is is is coaching. So
• 23:57
  I need to find a way how to
• 23:58
  coach, you know, 17 years old.
• 24:01
  Do or or 20 something years old, they
• 24:03
  they
• 24:04
  it must be simple for them to to
• 24:07
  really appreciate that. But
• 24:09
  but the
• 24:11
  simplifying what I... Like I mentioned, I started
• 24:13
  with Ada dorian. Like, he he was like
• 24:15
  the the the
• 24:18
  things flipped in my my brain a lot
• 24:21
  and and
• 24:22
  I'm happy that I kind of started my
• 24:24
  journey with Ada, and then then then looking
• 24:27
  into other great coaches was already true
• 24:32
  through a variance perspective
• 24:34
  which I think is the is the the
• 24:37
  best I could I could get gained through.
• 24:40
  So
• 24:42
  absolutely, Ada da made me understand levers.
• 24:45
  That's that's probably no surprise
• 24:48
  to you, but he made me understand how
• 24:51
  lovers work in human body, not not only
• 24:54
  in sprint, but definitely, the the the the
• 24:57
  levers is something that did
• 24:59
  nature creator the creator
• 25:02
  creative for us to make our life easier.
• 25:05
  Simple as that,
• 25:07
  So
• 25:08
  whenever I'm looking at the at the humans
• 25:10
  human body in motion, I'm always looking through
• 25:13
  levers perspective, and it doesn't matter if it's
• 25:15
  sprint.
• 25:16
  If it's hurt, if it's, you know, soccer
• 25:19
  player speech training or just
• 25:21
  he's his motion across the field or is
• 25:24
  it like a speed climbing that I'm I'm
• 25:26
  also involved at the, you know, elite level,
• 25:29
  olympic level.
• 25:31
  So
• 25:32
  I'm looking at the motion through through lever.
• 25:34
  So that was the the the 1 big
• 25:36
  thing. We we don't need to go into
• 25:38
  into very details. I I think if if
• 25:40
  I can provide a value to whoever is
• 25:43
  going to
• 25:45
  to listen to our conversation,
• 25:47
  explore levers and they role in human about
• 25:49
  this motion. So that would be that would
• 25:52
  be number 1 and and
• 25:55
  step 2, exploring Ada
• 25:58
  approach to to now a little bit more
• 26:00
  into sprint would be
• 26:02
  I moved away from
• 26:03
  horizontal
• 26:04
  versus vertical First application.
• 26:07
  Okay? I moved away away from the...
• 26:11
  From the, you know, spring
• 26:13
  spring model into angular momentum.
• 26:16
  Your body is not over aware if if
• 26:19
  what's the what's the angle of of force
• 26:21
  application? If it's vertical it's horizontal,
• 26:24
  whereas the drive phase where the... Where where
• 26:27
  where things change from horizontal and 2 verticals.
• 26:30
  So your body is not aware of that,
• 26:32
  but your body is aware of of of
• 26:34
  angular momentum,
• 26:35
  and that's the real engine that we have.
• 26:38
  So
• 26:40
  what's the... After after understanding levers and shimmer
• 26:44
  body? I'm I'm looking into... What where where
• 26:46
  the engine is and the engine is angular
• 26:48
  your momentum
• 26:49
  that you can create.
• 26:51
  So
• 26:53
  it's not easy to cover too much details
• 26:55
  you when when this is an audio recording,
• 26:58
  not the not, you know, not the cleaning
• 27:00
  or or training session or or or or
• 27:02
  or video.
• 27:03
  But if if I'm if I'm to 0.2
• 27:07
  most important things, I I learned from Ada
• 27:09
  guardian would be those too. And, of course,
• 27:11
  this quarter running and the then the machine
• 27:14
  angles change over
• 27:15
  over the the
• 27:17
  steps too etcetera that, this this would be
• 27:19
  the consequences of of me looking at the
• 27:21
  at the human
• 27:23
  body and motion through levers and
• 27:25
  specifically in sprint through, and your momentum
• 27:29
  being the being the the the the main
• 27:31
  driver, of what's actually
• 27:34
  happening on the on the track because
• 27:37
  after you you made your limb
• 27:40
  hit the ground already. There's not much you
• 27:42
  can do any further. But the the magic
• 27:45
  happened before. You actually hit the ground. So
• 27:47
  that's why the angular momentum
• 27:50
  is is so important for me to looking
• 27:52
  at the
• 27:54
  at the sprinter
• 27:55
  motion.
• 27:56
  So Yeah. I think with something like with
• 27:59
  Ad da
• 28:00
  teachings and the idea of a squat run,
• 28:02
  I think that there is...
• 28:05
  Like, a lot of people would look at
• 28:06
  that only through the window of,
• 28:09
  like, vertical force and force production. Like, that's
• 28:12
  And it... It's interesting to think about why
• 28:14
  that is the dominant
• 28:15
  way people look at sprint.
• 28:17
  The very...
• 28:18
  It's like that is the the holy grail.
• 28:20
  That's how people look at it.
• 28:22
  But squat running works in my opinion because
• 28:25
  of angular momentum.
• 28:27
  And people feel it. Because of angular momentum...
• 28:30
  You you're... Before we got on the call
• 28:32
  you're mentioning a little bit about how you
• 28:34
  help athletes to feel that. I really curious
• 28:36
  you explain a little bit more about that
• 28:38
  anecdote.
• 28:39
  Oh absolutely that. I think I'm
• 28:41
  I think I can be brave enough to
• 28:43
  to mention, I think I'm the only Cog
• 28:44
  Poland who's actually exploring this. Quarter run because
• 28:47
  I haven't seen If if I'm wrong then
• 28:49
  then then then, of course, apologize. But
• 28:52
  but
• 28:53
  the quarter run,
• 28:55
  actually allows the athlete to explore bot and
• 28:59
  the what's what's what's
• 29:02
  how how to feel the angular momentum they
• 29:05
  can create
• 29:06
  and what's going on in in terms of
• 29:10
  of levers and I'll step back
• 29:13
  to to to the forces, Okay? To applying
• 29:15
  forces. Sure. We we're we are applying the
• 29:18
  forces, But what levers gives you. Gives you
• 29:20
  a chance to utilize the force with the
• 29:24
  the easiest way possible. So
• 29:27
  if you understand levers, then makes your life
• 29:31
  simply easier. And the way the way I
• 29:33
  use squat run which is absolutely
• 29:35
  1 of the number 1 drills from you,
• 29:38
  which to be very honest. I'm I'm absolutely
• 29:41
  extremely limited on on the drills that I
• 29:44
  apply.
• 29:45
  So I always do a quarter drum that
• 29:47
  always bleeds into relaxed printing. So I'm, this
• 29:51
  is not like a base for like a
• 29:52
  top end speed training.
• 29:54
  So,
• 29:55
  it's it's just for the feeling. So when
• 29:58
  when I hold the athlete to run fast
• 30:00
  to sprint fairly fast and it's what position
• 30:03
  over 30 40 meters, and then I want
• 30:05
  him to gradually
• 30:07
  bleed into into spring over the next 10:50
• 30:10
  meters
• 30:11
  then he appreciate
• 30:13
  the benefits of this of this kind of
• 30:18
  task at the beginning position, but but after
• 30:21
  after he... The the the the comments from
• 30:24
  at, I get, they feel like they've been
• 30:26
  released from a leash.
• 30:28
  So when when when I work with my
• 30:29
  dog, I I have, like, a small muscular,
• 30:32
  sprinter type dogs like I.
• 30:35
  I I'm a happy owner of of 2
• 30:36
  pit bulls. So
• 30:38
  when when when I walk my dock, and
• 30:40
  he's trying to release from the
• 30:43
  from the leash, and I'm I'm not making
• 30:45
  this happen. So basically, he's walking in a
• 30:48
  squat position. The moment I released the leash
• 30:51
  when there's, of course, AAA safety environment to
• 30:54
  do that, then from from the squat position,
• 30:57
  he's gradually
• 30:59
  getting into top end position, Of course, in
• 31:01
  the in the in in his work. And
• 31:05
  but this exact common I'm getting from my
• 31:08
  sprinter. They they're feeling like being released from
• 31:11
  the from lesion and we do it all
• 31:13
  the around all around.
• 31:15
  Yeah. That's 1 of those things too where
• 31:17
  so much of coaching, just like back to
• 31:18
  the hurt.
• 31:19
  A lot of things that are in the
• 31:21
  air If an athletes in the air and
• 31:23
  they don't have a lot of sensory feedback
• 31:26
  necessarily outside of whatever internal timing they've learned
• 31:28
  to recognize in their body.
• 31:30
  They might start to become reliant on a
• 31:31
  coach. And I feel like so often sprint.
• 31:33
  It's like, it's in the air, and the
• 31:34
  coach says, put your knee in arm here
• 31:36
  and and focus on this and it's it's
• 31:38
  not something they really feel.
• 31:40
  But when you squat down a little bit
• 31:42
  and you have a little bit of a
• 31:43
  prolonged contact time, which again, you you're gonna
• 31:45
  get out of it in sprint normally like
• 31:46
  you said to bleed. It's a it's a
• 31:48
  sensory experience
• 31:49
  into, how did you use that extra sensation,
• 31:52
  how did you use that large angular sweep?
• 31:54
  It gives more... The same way I think
• 31:56
  we talk about, well, hey, and Athlete isn't
• 31:59
  sensing enough in the squat, So I'll put
• 32:00
  him on the ground. Like, you know, I
• 32:02
  give more points in contact.
• 32:04
  It's it's this thing that allows
• 32:06
  those that that gather... It allows more feeling,
• 32:09
  gathering feelings of angular motion, and then they
• 32:11
  can use it and it's so much more
• 32:13
  clean than well, hey, just go do these
• 32:15
  things in the air. Of course, you should
• 32:17
  be able to do these things in the
• 32:18
  air. It it's very, it just allows athletes
• 32:20
  to do that and recognize it. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 32:23
  And and when there's
• 32:25
  right now when we're recording, there's the the
• 32:28
  there are 2 2 huge sporting events going
• 32:31
  on this summer in in Europe. There... Now
• 32:33
  there's European
• 32:35
  soccer championships,
• 32:36
  Held in Germany and and there's the the
• 32:38
  summer Olympic games and and Paris and about
• 32:41
  the month.
• 32:42
  So I'm I'm watching, you know, because of
• 32:44
  the every Tv coverage is now about about
• 32:47
  the the the Europe... The the euro. The
• 32:49
  the super euro. So... And I'm watching that
• 32:51
  the
• 32:52
  and the thanks to to super high quality
• 32:55
  Tv cover. Now, we can really look at
• 32:58
  the real close up and slow and, you
• 33:00
  know, the drones flying above the players, etcetera,
• 33:03
  so which if you've really want to explore,
• 33:06
  explore and see and witness, I witness the
• 33:08
  the
• 33:10
  the fastest soccer players, there are absolutely
• 33:13
  quarter runners. Mh. And and, you know, there...
• 33:17
  It has got nothing to do to to
• 33:19
  making, you know, soccer players run about running
• 33:22
  weekends or or world drills
• 33:24
  No. Just let them be a squad rather,
• 33:27
  don't try to change it. And and the
• 33:28
  fastest
• 33:29
  soccer players on the feeling like the the
• 33:31
  the position, like, you know, the the the
• 33:33
  the wings or or those who cover, like,
• 33:38
  40 50 plus meters, which is
• 33:41
  which which which isn't not that common and
• 33:43
  talk about when they do it, you can
• 33:45
  really see how how the their bodies are
• 33:48
  resolving the the
• 33:51
  the task, which has been fast on the
• 33:52
  field on a soft field.
• 33:55
  Yeah. It's problem solving. It's a good athlete
• 33:58
  will find a way to problem solve. And
• 33:59
  I think that We can learn a lot
• 34:01
  from watching that versus assuming all athletes should
• 34:04
  run like a track sprinter on a track
• 34:06
  surface, straight ahead with no. Per or interruptions
• 34:09
  or anything like that. Yeah. But to be
• 34:12
  even honest, like, I had this idea that
• 34:14
  I'm trying to, you know... Spread across poland
• 34:16
  here and and our train training community, like
• 34:18
  a coaches come Ps and c coaches and
• 34:21
  football coaches that when when you look into,
• 34:23
  like, a read
• 34:24
  bread and butter. There's a lot less difference
• 34:27
  between the the the the sprinter on a
• 34:29
  track, and the and the fast soccer players
• 34:32
  on the on the field, the difference is
• 34:33
  the the the forces between the... Actually the
• 34:37
  shoe, the the the food and the trap.
• 34:38
  That's that's obvious because we have, like, a...
• 34:41
  A synthetic truck versus versus soft soft soft
• 34:47
  carved grass whatever you. The field,
• 34:50
  itself. So... But but when you look at
• 34:52
  the...
• 34:53
  Where's the optimum
• 34:55
  of the of the border
• 34:57
  we're begging into levers and we're begging into
• 34:59
  angular momentum. So it's got nothing to do
• 35:02
  about, you know, high knees or or force
• 35:04
  application if it's more horizontal more vertical.
• 35:08
  Yeah.
• 35:09
  Yeah. I think that there's a huge amount
• 35:11
  of difference between sprint on turf versus
• 35:14
  sprint out a bouncing track surface. And even
• 35:17
  I think people would look at squat running
• 35:18
  too and think of it more on the
• 35:20
  level of.
• 35:22
  I'm not even sure almost as if it's...
• 35:24
  Something it's gonna cause you to pull your
• 35:26
  ham or not bounce very well or something
• 35:28
  like that. But... In reality you watch these
• 35:30
  at soccer players especially running.
• 35:33
  With the a slightly squat center of mass,
• 35:35
  the timing is I think what ties it
• 35:38
  together because the limbs and the way everything's
• 35:39
  being timed up is so good. And I
• 35:42
  think if you told
• 35:44
  a track Athlete who's used to doing tracked,
• 35:46
  To run squat and the timing was awfully.
• 35:48
  Yeah, that would be a bad thing. But
• 35:50
  naturally, our timing is good and it's on
• 35:51
  and it's it's adapting to our environment, and
• 35:54
  it's almost like back even the hurt... This
• 35:55
  is why I, like, like, leading with the
• 35:56
  hurt and the rhythm piece because like, if
• 35:58
  the rhythms there and the timing there, and
• 36:00
  yeah and you're adapting to a problem, like
• 36:02
  variable hurdles or players or things to deal
• 36:05
  with. The end result gonna be pretty natural,
• 36:08
  and it's gonna be something that
• 36:10
  is... Yeah, just again, you adapting to your
• 36:12
  environment. And that's why I I've said it
• 36:13
  before, but I raise it tricks me watching
• 36:15
  people warm, like soccer players up with all
• 36:18
  the high knees and the hands overhead and
• 36:19
  all that stuff. And then they'll go from
• 36:21
  that and the players will to start playing
• 36:22
  and then everything just changes instantly. Lo and
• 36:25
  squad it and yeah it's. It's like absolutely.
• 36:28
  Absolutely to the point. And now we just
• 36:30
  also meant, I mean, you you
• 36:32
  you made me now think about something. The
• 36:34
  the moment I introduced into my sprinter or
• 36:37
  whoever new
• 36:38
  John Mango My my level is, like, just
• 36:41
  just to give even an overview, like, the
• 36:42
  the the my my fastest hundred meters like
• 36:45
  the
• 36:46
  10 twenties.
• 36:48
  Over a hundred meters like my my my
• 36:51
  fastest 60 meter indoor printer, like the 06:60,
• 36:54
  which is like, a European high level of
• 36:57
  printing already and, like, the the 20 forties
• 37:01
  over 200 meters. So Whenever I introduce the
• 37:04
  the this, you know squad running into my
• 37:07
  group, I have introduced in the past or
• 37:09
  I introduced into an news printer that joins
• 37:11
  my group,
• 37:14
  then the the timing is off in the
• 37:16
  beginning quite often. But once they gradually,
• 37:20
  get into the right timing what you have
• 37:21
  just point out into quarter running. Then the
• 37:24
  timing, they they are able to maintain the
• 37:26
  timing,
• 37:27
  over the whole distance when when they bleed
• 37:29
  into sprint and and and and a continue
• 37:31
  and maintain. That's a great timing. That's a
• 37:34
  great timing tool should you just open my
• 37:36
  eyes into what I do, but I I
• 37:38
  never I I never thought of that like
• 37:40
  that. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Like, I I
• 37:42
  appreciate the anecdote and the thoughts from your.
• 37:44
  And of things. I was thinking just about
• 37:46
  Bobby White was on the podcast basketball coach
• 37:49
  and sports performance and he talks a lot
• 37:51
  about pushing athletes to the edge of their
• 37:52
  ability and
• 37:53
  Even though, like Chris Cor, his edge of
• 37:55
  the ability off often a very coordination demand.
• 37:58
  It's not like just force. There's a lot
• 38:00
  of cognitive.
• 38:02
  Demand to push that edge. And I think
• 38:04
  once you take, I guess you could call
• 38:06
  taking the red pill of timing
• 38:08
  and levers
• 38:09
  But once you get to that place of
• 38:11
  timing, It's like, how how do I challenge
• 38:13
  your timing now? How do I have a
• 38:15
  workout that challenges that?
• 38:16
  And it's not like,
• 38:18
  Okay. We'll just do this and, you know,
• 38:20
  keep your limbs in this position type thing.
• 38:22
  And and I find when you can challenge
• 38:23
  timing, you can almost change from the inside
• 38:26
  out in a way. Like, everything else will
• 38:27
  follow suit. Your fast twitch in your nervous
• 38:29
  system, everything... Like, athletes love that because it's
• 38:32
  kinda like
• 38:33
  dance speed challenge
• 38:35
  and you're wired for it. And that's what
• 38:37
  dynamic systems do. That's what dynamic systems do,
• 38:40
  and we're not we're not. Complicated system which
• 38:43
  would be a car or or like a,
• 38:45
  like a, you know, and a product of
• 38:47
  engineers. We are dynamic systems, and we adopt.
• 38:50
  So this is what do be capable of
• 38:52
  doing. That's why, you know, by Robot would
• 38:55
  not benefit anything from Squat.
• 38:58
  If it's it is not been programmed in
• 39:00
  advance by then by the designers legend engineer.
• 39:03
  Yeah. I think that isn't the title for
• 39:05
  that. It's like complicated.
• 39:07
  Like, a car would be complicated, but we
• 39:09
  are complex complex. Right? Yes. Yes. Yes.
• 39:12
  That's the difference. So so the the... In
• 39:15
  in in complicated system, everything has has been
• 39:18
  designed. The only
• 39:19
  combination of of parts getting into relation everything
• 39:22
  has to be pre pre program. It's like
• 39:24
  a product of of there's a blueprint for
• 39:27
  for an emotion that's that's possible. If if
• 39:30
  anything in the car goes out of the
• 39:32
  blueprint it breaks simply
• 39:34
  versus complex
• 39:36
  systems like we are we adopt.
• 39:39
  Yeah. And, yeah, and that changes everything. And
• 39:41
  it really expands
• 39:42
  the number of things that we ingredients or
• 39:45
  the the factors we can look at.
• 39:47
  At which which makes coaching a lot of
• 39:49
  fun too. Oh, yes.
• 39:52
  Does. You mentioned Peter, you, jerome simeon. Spending
• 39:56
  time with him and, of course, you Jay
• 39:57
  Sc and, hey. I I the question I
• 40:00
  always ask her it comes to my mind
• 40:02
  with those types of things is alright. 5
• 40:05
  minute lunch. 5 minute iso saw lunch. 5
• 40:07
  minutes, 2 minutes.
• 40:09
  Lunch was electrical
• 40:10
  stimulation on, Like, where where we landed?
• 40:13
  I tried those. I I tried them all.
• 40:15
  I tried them all with, you know, electrodes
• 40:17
  on my on my glues and my ham
• 40:19
  on my everything.
• 40:20
  So I have this this, but I think
• 40:23
  like, a slightly about 23 minutes was was
• 40:26
  all I was capable of doing. But you
• 40:29
  know, this type of, like, a a fairly
• 40:31
  pure j shredder stuff, you know,
• 40:34
  this is what I do first thing in
• 40:36
  the in the fall.
• 40:38
  What 1 of the thing that 1 of
• 40:40
  things that III
• 40:42
  really
• 40:43
  pay attention to is a long vacations for
• 40:46
  my sprinter.
• 40:47
  So
• 40:48
  we are just done with the nationals 2
• 40:49
  we get 2 weeks ago where I had,
• 40:51
  like, you know,
• 40:52
  fairly, you know the whole bunch of medals
• 40:55
  and and and final positions.
• 40:58
  So the... This week,
• 41:00
  we still have under 23
• 41:02
  nationals.
• 41:03
  This is the equivalent in Europe. It's it's
• 41:05
  it's it doesn't really exist in the U
• 41:07
  Us because there's the European idea of the
• 41:09
  of the nationals and and the pan pan
• 41:11
  European
• 41:13
  track events in the under 23 category, but
• 41:16
  it's a pure equivalent of Nc
• 41:19
  because
• 41:20
  but when you plus mine was look at
• 41:22
  the at the athletes age, so this under
• 41:24
  23 category. So this week I'm... I'm I'm
• 41:27
  I'm having the under 23 nationals. And from
• 41:31
  that point, it's like
• 41:33
  2 and a half until 3 months of
• 41:36
  complete vacations for for my sprinter. And I'm
• 41:39
  happy when we when we finish the season
• 41:41
  with the personal best and the and the
• 41:43
  healthy. No injuries is not nothing. So
• 41:46
  So that's the moment we know step of
• 41:48
  the stage and the in the in the
• 41:49
  peak performance state.
• 41:52
  So that's that's always very important for me
• 41:54
  to to to to stop the season when
• 41:57
  when about it is it's it's a peak
• 41:59
  shape,
• 42:00
  then the long vacations. But then when we
• 42:02
  pick up in the in the fall,
• 42:04
  the body kind of knows where we are
• 42:07
  heading to, to the peak form that that
• 42:09
  that we... That we were in the peak
• 42:11
  peak shape we were in 3 months ago.
• 42:14
  And getting back to Jay Shredder, because that
• 42:16
  was your your your... Question. The maybe 2
• 42:20
  up to 3 weeks of of breaking those,
• 42:23
  you know, summer vacation modem and habits,
• 42:27
  we go extremely through jay shredder
• 42:30
  ideas. So we go through the longest eyes
• 42:32
  or long duration iso, we can make that
• 42:34
  it's a lot of fun.
• 42:36
  Especially with the guys. We we're in the
• 42:38
  group, we challenge
• 42:40
  each other. So so I have this 1
• 42:43
  crazy guy, my my my strongest 60 meter.
• 42:45
  Who is like, nobody can beat him in
• 42:48
  in long duration iso.
• 42:50
  Also, like, 3 3 and a half for...
• 42:53
  For me he can easily do it. But
• 42:55
  the thing that really grinds us down into
• 42:58
  into the extreme are the super slow.
• 43:01
  Super slow is is is really something we
• 43:03
  have a lot of on, but
• 43:06
  how I look at those,
• 43:08
  it's maybe not necessary the, you know, this
• 43:12
  pure sprint capabilities that that I'm trying to
• 43:15
  develop over those
• 43:17
  let's say, 2 weeks of upstream
• 43:20
  extreme iso,
• 43:22
  extreme long duration iso and and combined with
• 43:24
  the with
• 43:27
  huge volume of of easy rebound, you know,
• 43:30
  with those
• 43:32
  throwing and patching and and those super slow,
• 43:34
  everything from dress shredded
• 43:36
  shredder system,
• 43:38
  quite often combined with
• 43:41
  neuro
• 43:42
  stimulation,
• 43:44
  Rs sq 1 is the European
• 43:46
  system that kind of follows the step of
• 43:48
  of Arp way. So for me, it's like
• 43:51
  a
• 43:52
  we are we are grinding and rebuilding the
• 43:54
  tissues. That's that's that's how I see, then
• 43:57
  that's the idea so we just...
• 43:59
  We we were able to over overdose
• 44:01
  period of time. Our our our... My goal
• 44:04
  is like the plastic of the tissues. So
• 44:07
  if there's anything in the border that needs
• 44:09
  to be, you know, some scar t show,
• 44:11
  anything like that anything that needs to be
• 44:13
  to be cleared off.
• 44:14
  This is the beginning of of our training
• 44:17
  training fault training, just just getting your tissues
• 44:21
  into the extreme.
• 44:23
  So if there are any weak points we
• 44:25
  cleared them out. That's the idea behind. I
• 44:28
  can't tell you, you know, Probably nobody can
• 44:30
  tell you.
• 44:31
  What's actually going on and what what's actually
• 44:34
  what where the magic is
• 44:36
  behind, you know, 5 minutes,
• 44:38
  5 minutes
• 44:40
  iso lunch,
• 44:42
  but but this is how I look into
• 44:44
  it, and this is how I incorporated this
• 44:46
  into my system because I can only say,
• 44:49
  what is the place for for this particular
• 44:52
  modality into... In in my system.
• 44:54
  So that's that's That's how I use. And
• 44:56
  then, of course, gradually, we we move away
• 44:58
  from from such an extreme approach because in
• 45:01
  high level sprint training,
• 45:03
  you need to find a the right amount
• 45:06
  of everything and the too much of something
• 45:08
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  Yeah. It's interesting that the...
• 46:08
  You said the 60 meter sprinter who was
• 46:12
  the 1 who would do the best that
• 46:13
  the long holds because I think in some
• 46:15
  ways that do would the first thought. I'm
• 46:17
  sure a lot of people would how would
• 46:18
  be well.
• 46:19
  Isn't that a fast switch person? It's slow
• 46:21
  twitch, but it's like, if it's must he's
• 46:23
  a muscular person and an and competitive and
• 46:25
  intense. It's so interesting to be how I
• 46:27
  think the mental slow wiring of some people
• 46:30
  can really work its way into those types
• 46:32
  of things. Yeah. I think also, you know,
• 46:35
  he's he's he's
• 46:36
  his engine.
• 46:38
  Is is the muscle. You know, He's the
• 46:40
  the wide
• 46:42
  the wide Dia type. Yeah. Is the 1.
• 46:46
  He's the 1. So he's... The muscle is
• 46:48
  his engine. So I think that's for for
• 46:51
  the reason he tries on that. So he
• 46:53
  tries on the and form of
• 46:55
  customization. He tries on super long duration eyes.
• 46:58
  So
• 46:59
  strong
• 47:00
  muscle stimulation is is his driver.
• 47:04
  So probably for that the reason,
• 47:06
  I mean, in in this, you know, short
• 47:08
  short extreme
• 47:10
  extreme stuff from from Jay Shredder, he he
• 47:12
  he drives. But then over the season,
• 47:17
  with with an roi iso so
• 47:21
  type guys dudes, I'm looking a lot more
• 47:24
  into
• 47:25
  elasticity
• 47:26
  driven
• 47:27
  strength training. And in his case, it's a
• 47:30
  lot more
• 47:31
  strong concentric
• 47:33
  old school engine. Of course, I do it
• 47:35
  I do it. I try to do it
• 47:37
  in a smart way. You know. I'm I'm
• 47:39
  I'm a huge
• 47:40
  proponent and a huge fan of of of
• 47:42
  Kaiser.
• 47:43
  So 1 of the,
• 47:45
  you know, after
• 47:46
  after the couple coffee spend, III had spent
• 47:48
  with with Randy handing on 20 19 Though
• 47:52
  mentioned, and the starbucks at at our hot
• 47:55
  hotel lobby. So few months later I already
• 47:58
  had, you know,
• 48:00
  I already had Kaiser squad machine at my
• 48:02
  gym because I run my my my my
• 48:03
  own gym which is like a
• 48:05
  like a very specific place,
• 48:08
  slightly inspired by Chris Cor.
• 48:10
  So he's the he's the he's the
• 48:14
  concentric court... Contraction type of deal. And he's
• 48:17
  super strong, super dynamic and the and
• 48:21
  his dream always was to to to beat
• 48:23
  the
• 48:24
  results in Ky, and he does it. You
• 48:27
  know, as far as I could explore Sub
• 48:29
  ton results, it is over the, you know,
• 48:31
  show youtube videos or something. So,
• 48:33
  So we're trying to sometimes we try to
• 48:36
  just replicate the the the sub tan execution
• 48:39
  on Kaiser and might do this stronger. So
• 48:41
  that that... That's the thing. And
• 48:43
  versus the the the narrow
• 48:46
  type of guys where I'm looking a lot
• 48:48
  more os
• 48:49
  isometric type of training and which we do
• 48:52
  with the bottom the back mostly. I sent
• 48:54
  you, like, a couple months ago, for crazy
• 48:57
  video,
• 48:58
  I... We can we can explore this further
• 49:00
  in in a moment and also Kaiser machine.
• 49:03
  So I'm I'm finding those those very short
• 49:05
  us
• 49:07
  motions and
• 49:08
  been under, know, Kaiser Squad. You know, the
• 49:12
  the compressed area, it's
• 49:15
  It's absolutely
• 49:16
  like a like a cornerstone of of of
• 49:19
  my strength training programming to true whatever
• 49:22
  population, I'm working with soccer players.
• 49:25
  Hand hand female hand spray, speed climber and,
• 49:28
  of course, my sprinter and hand hardware. So
• 49:30
  if there's 1 piece of equipment that I
• 49:32
  couldn't live with it would definitely be the
• 49:35
  Kaiser squad machine. So here on that, I'm
• 49:37
  I'm
• 49:38
  on the same side as as as randy
• 49:40
  handing ton.
• 49:42
  Yeah. So, yeah, let's dig into that just
• 49:44
  a little bit more. And so you mentioned
• 49:46
  for a more muscular or a wide Type.
• 49:49
  They're doing more more typical squat jumps on
• 49:52
  the Kaiser machine versus a narrow is gonna
• 49:55
  be doing a lot more a relatively more
• 49:57
  oscillator reps like quick up and downs.
• 49:59
  And and yes I what bring range too,
• 50:02
  like, a like, a Yes. Half for full,
• 50:04
  you know, quarter squad there. Yeah. III
• 50:07
  you know, with the c Kaiser squad. You
• 50:10
  know, I I cannot
• 50:12
  I cannot remove
• 50:13
  any of those completely from anybody. So the
• 50:16
  narrow guy, I still have to do some,
• 50:18
  you know, some powerhouse
• 50:20
  concentric motion through heap extension. Simple and the
• 50:24
  the guy who tries on.
• 50:26
  If if there's a word championships where you
• 50:28
  where you sprint
• 50:30
  of a 60 meters with the
• 50:32
  with a heavy slide behind you. I'd put
• 50:35
  all my money on this guy.
• 50:37
  You know? So last we judge ja an
• 50:40
  Anecdote and I'll get back to your question,
• 50:41
  just an luck. 2 weeks ago, we had
• 50:43
  the nationals. And there was there was a
• 50:45
  horrible, like, 5, 5 meters, 5, 6 meters
• 50:48
  headwind.
• 50:50
  No a disaster for for hundred meters final.
• 50:54
  And this duke thrived. So he
• 50:58
  he was able to to push cells against
• 51:00
  the strong wind. He took finally fourth place
• 51:03
  and the
• 51:04
  slightly missing. There were thousands of seconds. He
• 51:06
  is the the the bronze medal. And if
• 51:08
  he was like A99
• 51:09
  hundred of a second
• 51:11
  to to to to the first place.
• 51:14
  But but he was able to try against
• 51:16
  really, really
• 51:17
  strong
• 51:18
  headwind.
• 51:20
  So getting into into the luck with the...
• 51:23
  Kaiser gives you tons of options, you know,
• 51:25
  you can you can
• 51:27
  you can do the very lasting motions where
• 51:30
  worse a tons of...
• 51:31
  Very fast eccentric involved. You know, because we
• 51:34
  we we... In the And C community, we
• 51:36
  can we can discuss the the the all
• 51:38
  the benefits of of
• 51:40
  you know,
• 51:42
  supra maximum centric
• 51:44
  strength training. But I'm not really interested in
• 51:46
  the supra maximum. I'm interested in the super
• 51:49
  fast
• 51:50
  external and so eccentric training. Trend training and
• 51:53
  this... IIII...
• 51:56
  Their details work over by by Randy Huntington
• 51:59
  and 1 1 of your charts definitely. So
• 52:02
  so this
• 52:04
  elastic based
• 52:08
  pumping type of action. The benefit is the
• 52:11
  super fast eccentric
• 52:13
  piece
• 52:14
  of movement.
• 52:16
  What I... What what what's the what's the
• 52:19
  word where my my super strong 60 meter
• 52:22
  duke drives?
• 52:23
  And is the thing that,
• 52:26
  Kaiser squad
• 52:28
  the the the the
• 52:29
  step pads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You. Let let's
• 52:31
  make the path. So I said that at
• 52:33
  the at the certain level, It's it's it's
• 52:35
  it's it's important for me what
• 52:39
  this this particular trend training is is... Is
• 52:42
  has been applied into. Like, let's say we
• 52:45
  did the the if the goal of the
• 52:47
  sprint training was the the blocks,
• 52:49
  then we are in the knee angles
• 52:53
  kind of closer to to to or like
• 52:55
  first 2 3 steps.
• 52:57
  Clearing the blocks. So then I said the
• 52:59
  the pads at the certain 11,
• 53:01
  and then the the the athletes
• 53:04
  is moving his body like couple centimeters below
• 53:08
  and he's hitting
• 53:10
  as as fast as he can and as
• 53:12
  strongly as he can. And only during the
• 53:14
  P and eccentric.
• 53:16
  Peep... Sorry, pure pure consenting motion then. So
• 53:20
  it's like, we, I call it Kaiser Hits.
• 53:22
  Just in in in in in my terminology.
• 53:24
  So when I program, those are the Kaiser
• 53:26
  hits. And this is like where where the
• 53:29
  my my 60 meter guy like a stronger
• 53:32
  than the sub pan.
• 53:35
  Maybe run the when he shares that we'll
• 53:37
  will will have another opinion there, but then
• 53:39
  then he's absolutely up salty beast.
• 53:43
  So this is where he tried. While the
• 53:44
  the the more narrow type of guys, they
• 53:47
  thrive in the in those like a sat
• 53:50
  type of motions, short up and down and
• 53:53
  they are super strong and a short,
• 53:56
  slash fast eccentric because there is a lot
• 53:58
  more
• 53:59
  elasticity,
• 54:00
  elastic components and involved. And also those guys
• 54:03
  try on those
• 54:06
  os isometric, which I do with the with
• 54:09
  the with a regular bar on on their
• 54:11
  back, which I which I send you
• 54:14
  I believe couple months or something some or
• 54:17
  some ago.
• 54:18
  And my approach to those
• 54:20
  iso also
• 54:22
  III
• 54:23
  heard a number of term, I had a
• 54:25
  number of times in in
• 54:27
  through your conversation with your guess, but my
• 54:29
  approach is, a slightly different to to, like
• 54:31
  cut these or Chris
• 54:33
  approach.
• 54:36
  I can called shirt. So okay. So the
• 54:38
  idea is the the idea is that,
• 54:41
  you know, the the the traditional or more
• 54:44
  maybe not traditional because that's not this is
• 54:46
  not very traditional
• 54:48
  type of exercise at all. But I'd say
• 54:51
  the beginning of of
• 54:53
  of oscillator iso that I heard from Ka
• 54:57
  or Chris or
• 54:59
  or you name it
• 55:01
  was that, like you you you're getting in
• 55:03
  the the position that you want to train
• 55:05
  and you're making like, you know, short, short,
• 55:08
  you know, a small
• 55:10
  is
• 55:12
  the the a short range of motion up
• 55:15
  and down movement, and you're moving with a
• 55:17
  bar and it everything was about, you know,
• 55:19
  contraction and relaxation and and timing. Again, we're
• 55:22
  back into timing. Everything is about cycles. Frequencies
• 55:25
  and timing.
• 55:26
  So... And you're looking at the perfect timing
• 55:28
  where you can really find your rhythm with
• 55:30
  the with a bar. My approach is slightly
• 55:32
  different. I
• 55:34
  But but but I am able to apply
• 55:36
  this to really my elite guys. So you
• 55:39
  need... Mean, first, you need to...
• 55:42
  A very high quality bar. It must be
• 55:44
  like the competition
• 55:46
  this cannot of be an, cross feed or
• 55:48
  power lifting
• 55:50
  stiff bar.
• 55:51
  You need very elastic
• 55:53
  certified
• 55:54
  wet listing bar like a lake or rock
• 55:56
  or really top brand,
• 55:59
  bar. You need
• 56:00
  you need to put
• 56:02
  you need to put like a really heavy
• 56:06
  heavy load on the bar because otherwise, the
• 56:09
  exercise want 1 won't happen. So let's say
• 56:12
  it's like a a hundred 40
• 56:14
  hundred 60
• 56:16
  kilograms on the on the back of the
• 56:17
  athlete. The position is like the
• 56:22
  not even a quarter squad. It's it's it's
• 56:24
  it's it's it's slightly bent in in the
• 56:26
  knees.
• 56:27
  Alright? So
• 56:30
  hills of the ground, of course, because we're
• 56:32
  looking
• 56:33
  the to maintain the the rigidity of the
• 56:36
  of the ankle itself. And the goal of
• 56:38
  the exit is,
• 56:40
  after you... After she finds... He she's doing
• 56:42
  like the the it's not even a mini
• 56:44
  squad. It's just like a finding
• 56:49
  he's he's he's task, is to make the
• 56:52
  the the the wheels on the side of
• 56:54
  the of the bar to move up and
• 56:56
  down
• 56:57
  the highest altitude possible.
• 57:00
  But
• 57:01
  the goal of the athlete is almost knocked
• 57:03
  to move. So the the the the the
• 57:06
  center of gravity of the athletes is is
• 57:08
  moving, like, maybe 2 3 centimeters up and
• 57:10
  barrel.
• 57:11
  But by true contracts...
• 57:13
  Contracting and relaxing the mask look is able
• 57:15
  to find the perfect rhythm,
• 57:18
  to to combine his his body motion and
• 57:21
  the and the elasticity of the bar and
• 57:24
  into a perfect frequency of the motion.
• 57:27
  So when he finds the rhythm, then he
• 57:29
  can go 10:20
• 57:31
  15 times. So it it doesn't really matter.
• 57:32
  It looks a worthless.
• 57:34
  And imagine he's he's holding like, a hundred
• 57:36
  60 kilograms on his bag, and he's making
• 57:38
  the the side of the bar like, they
• 57:40
  are wing up and now.
• 57:42
  So when when you
• 57:45
  when you see the
• 57:47
  the Olympic games, the weight lifters.
• 57:50
  They use it when they are... When when
• 57:51
  when they're standing up from the from the
• 57:54
  match. They using the elasticity of the bar,
• 57:56
  of course. So I'm I'm... I'm I'm multiplying
• 57:59
  the elasticity of the bar over the period
• 58:01
  of time. 5 seconds 10 seconds or or
• 58:03
  or even longer. And the goal always just
• 58:06
  to make the bar the the bar bouncing
• 58:09
  kind of thing. That that... There's even the...
• 58:11
  1 of my inspiration was there there are,
• 58:13
  like, the fitness sticks that that that that
• 58:16
  I filed at some point Like we're talking
• 58:17
  like do, you know, the the the the
• 58:20
  the fitness type of training. Doesn't have much
• 58:22
  to do with the
• 58:24
  with the type of training the environment I'm
• 58:25
  in, But those are the the sticks that
• 58:27
  that you hold in your your... It's like
• 58:30
  like a bamboo type of Yeah, like a
• 58:31
  body blade, I think is where... Body blade
• 58:33
  it's something like that. And your goal is
• 58:35
  just to to to to find a perfect
• 58:38
  perfect vibration and and and to and to
• 58:41
  and to match your body's vibration into the
• 58:44
  stick, the the the the body blade vibration.
• 58:46
  So this is exactly what I'm doing with
• 58:47
  the super heavy bar on the back.
• 58:50
  And the narrow guys thrive, and They love
• 58:52
  it, and it works. Mh.
• 58:55
  Yeah. I I like that.
• 58:57
  The best things are the best movements I
• 58:59
  think are found
• 59:01
  from the ideas in nature. Like, even biometrics
• 59:04
  the idea you see someone go dunk basketball,
• 59:07
  then come down and land on 1 foot
• 59:08
  and kinda of bounce out of it. You
• 59:10
  know, like the ply metric that's built into
• 59:12
  the game itself.
• 59:14
  Or that what you mentioned like, watching Olympic
• 59:16
  lifters and they use those os alterations to
• 59:18
  help them, and it's it's it's... Even too,
• 59:21
  I guess, you could save nature itself, you
• 59:23
  could have, like a gorilla shaking a tree
• 59:24
  really fast. Explicitly to get, you know, some
• 59:27
  Coconut to fall out of Whatever whatever it
• 59:29
  is, whatever reason they wanna do it.
• 59:31
  But and we... And and and we back
• 59:33
  to... It's timing and a vibration again. Yeah.
• 59:35
  To shake the tree, you have to have
• 59:37
  that os cancellation. It... There's a skill to
• 59:39
  it. I think that's just the missing that's
• 59:41
  the missing piece that no 1 talks about
• 59:43
  is that skill of managing those
• 59:46
  vibrations, managing those populations, and with what you're
• 59:49
  doing, I think that is the 1 thing
• 59:51
  I've programmed a lot of oscillator toy movements.
• 59:53
  The 1 thing about it that is not
• 59:55
  perfect. Like, I think in everything there's a
• 59:57
  level of things that are good and the
• 59:59
  level of things that are a little imperfect,
• 1:00:01
  You know, the rough on the edges of
• 1:00:02
  any any intervention that isn't totally pure. Like
• 1:00:04
  I guess that isn't. Like actual running or
• 1:00:06
  jumping or throwing or the actual sport. But
• 1:00:08
  the 1 thing that's a little weird with
• 1:00:10
  the oscillator stuff is it doesn't feel it
• 1:00:12
  feels a little forced if that makes sense.
• 1:00:14
  You're doing a thing
• 1:00:15
  that you know is helpful, but there's not
• 1:00:18
  necessarily a task that's guiding you. There's not
• 1:00:20
  something a constraint. It's missing a constraint.
• 1:00:23
  And what you're doing is adding a constraint
• 1:00:26
  basically to something that's already good and just
• 1:00:29
  making it more tuning it even more. I
• 1:00:32
  think that's
• 1:00:33
  that's the... I Even... I even... I've in
• 1:00:35
  my basement here, and I have 1 of
• 1:00:36
  those, like, tsunami bars, and and that's the
• 1:00:38
  thing I've been messing with it for. Is
• 1:00:40
  that, like,
• 1:00:41
  giving you a constraint to os to.
• 1:00:45
  Yeah. The task... So then I don't have
• 1:00:47
  too money but, but IIII
• 1:00:49
  had a chance to explore it. So the
• 1:00:50
  task would be would be make the regular
• 1:00:53
  bark behaving as a tsunami bar. Yeah. And
• 1:00:56
  that's that's the task you have you're supposed
• 1:00:57
  to solve. And and the moment
• 1:01:00
  they added when when he starts the motion,
• 1:01:02
  he's moving
• 1:01:03
  deeper, and the moment he she finds the
• 1:01:06
  the the the timing and the rhythm with
• 1:01:08
  the bar, then the athletes motion is like
• 1:01:10
  maybe 1 inch jumping noun or even less,
• 1:01:13
  she but the bar really bouncing up and
• 1:01:16
  down, like, several centimeters on each side,
• 1:01:18
  again with hundred 60 kilograms on on on
• 1:01:21
  on, you know,
• 1:01:23
  on below.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah. And it's... It is, you know, it
• 1:01:27
  kinda makes me think. I feel like you
• 1:01:29
  would said something about this in an email
• 1:01:31
  exchange with the idea of, like, how do
• 1:01:33
  you be progress? And you had said about
• 1:01:36
  Kaiser.
• 1:01:37
  And trying to have athletes get the same
• 1:01:40
  wattage or output later in the season using
• 1:01:42
  lighter loads as they were able to get
• 1:01:44
  earlier using heavier loads.
• 1:01:47
  Oh, absolutely.
• 1:01:48
  Absolutely. Yes. And that's absolutely. Like I said,
• 1:01:50
  the that whoever running community IIII train with,
• 1:01:54
  and and I have a chance to to
• 1:01:55
  to progress over, like, a some period of
• 1:01:57
  time, like a season like, proprietary period or
• 1:02:00
  something. So I let them set their personal
• 1:02:02
  best to where I loud a little bit
• 1:02:04
  more load on the on the Kaiser, and
• 1:02:06
  still,
• 1:02:07
  up number 1 driver must be the speed
• 1:02:09
  of motion
• 1:02:10
  So sometimes when I, like, when I program
• 1:02:13
  sun training for for my for my running
• 1:02:16
  up like let...
• 1:02:17
  We we don't even need to... We don't
• 1:02:19
  even have to to to spread into sprinter
• 1:02:21
  or soccer players or or handle whatever whatever
• 1:02:24
  everybody... I only coach running at.
• 1:02:27
  Even the speed climb if they're still running
• 1:02:29
  athletes, but
• 1:02:30
  it's just the the vertical.
• 1:02:34
  So
• 1:02:35
  the
• 1:02:37
  the way I coach the the
• 1:02:39
  the... I mean, the way I program
• 1:02:42
  the resistance,
• 1:02:43
  it's always...
• 1:02:45
  Speed of motion is always my absolutely number.
• 1:02:47
  I I never the speed of motion. So...
• 1:02:50
  But still. In the in the full time,
• 1:02:52
  I let them set some records some very
• 1:02:55
  personal best
• 1:02:56
  where I allow a little bit more
• 1:02:58
  little bit more air pumped the into the
• 1:03:00
  Kaiser system.
• 1:03:02
  And when we progress towards the spring season
• 1:03:05
  and summer season, then I limit, like 30
• 1:03:08
  percent down with the with the weight, but,
• 1:03:11
  hey, the
• 1:03:12
  those were your personal best use you said
• 1:03:15
  in December or
• 1:03:16
  or whatever January.
• 1:03:18
  Okay? Now you you... This is your personal
• 1:03:21
  best. So now I want you to to
• 1:03:23
  prove me that you can do it the
• 1:03:25
  same, but now the the the low is
• 1:03:27
  30 percent less. And where would then then
• 1:03:29
  we are moving purely towards the speed of
• 1:03:31
  motion only.
• 1:03:33
  So definitely, that's the progression through... 1 of
• 1:03:35
  the progressions Are I used car either for.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah. I was just thinking,
• 1:03:40
  yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Along the lines of the Oscillator I was
• 1:03:42
  just thinking about how would you progressing, like
• 1:03:44
  that in the sense of if you get
• 1:03:46
  you could start with the tsunami bar that's
• 1:03:47
  extremely easy to To get to go up
• 1:03:50
  and down. And then every couple weeks ago
• 1:03:52
  it it'd would be too difficult. I think
• 1:03:54
  from an equipment perspective, but I was thinking
• 1:03:56
  about that. And that's not for everyone. In
• 1:03:58
  because... To to really make this happen. You
• 1:04:01
  you you need to... You mean, I found
• 1:04:03
  that, like,
• 1:04:04
  below 130 kilograms, the bar won't behave the
• 1:04:07
  way I want to So it... It's not
• 1:04:09
  definitely not for. I I don't I don't
• 1:04:11
  I don't know it will with my, you
• 1:04:12
  know, 19 years old, female hurdles. No. That's
• 1:04:15
  for my strong dudes, you know For for
• 1:04:18
  printers. It's it's not not for everybody But
• 1:04:20
  once they reach the level, they they they
• 1:04:23
  they they enjoy it, this is like
• 1:04:26
  they really do and attempt. Yeah. It's... There's
• 1:04:30
  something too. I think about
• 1:04:32
  training exercises that
• 1:04:34
  only a certain group can access because it
• 1:04:36
  makes you feel like, good that you got
• 1:04:38
  to it. I get to do this. That's
• 1:04:39
  what you so awesome. You know,
• 1:04:42
  I was gonna say, what are your thoughts
• 1:04:44
  on? Everyone that, you know, that broke the
• 1:04:46
  Internet. No they're not really, but, like, the
• 1:04:47
  Cars war home when you Scott, like, you
• 1:04:49
  know, 400 kilos and bouncing it up and
• 1:04:51
  down, like, It's oscillator sorry. Right? Like, it's
• 1:04:54
  it's interest. That's definitely a version of it.
• 1:04:56
  It's just a little Yeah. Yeah. We we
• 1:04:57
  log into into details.
• 1:04:59
  I had I had like, a...
• 1:05:02
  I hope it's not, you know,
• 1:05:03
  I'm not and
• 1:05:05
  going into much privacy, but I had a
• 1:05:08
  conversation with
• 1:05:10
  with Ralph Omen. You know, those
• 1:05:12
  those are the the the
• 1:05:15
  the Nordic dick's coach coaches community. You know
• 1:05:18
  Ralph. He was the
• 1:05:20
  the the
• 1:05:21
  Sn c coach for for in Randy Huntington
• 1:05:25
  Group in in in China for for many
• 1:05:27
  years now He's back in Europe slash Australia.
• 1:05:30
  So
• 1:05:31
  I I think that was, I spoke either
• 1:05:34
  with him or or referral another coach from
• 1:05:37
  from Sa from Nordic. So anyway, the answer,
• 1:05:39
  I I got that
• 1:05:41
  because we tried to to to
• 1:05:44
  really
• 1:05:45
  find out what's really going on. And the
• 1:05:48
  the real, the answer I got from from
• 1:05:50
  from 1 of the nordic coaches was that
• 1:05:52
  that the
• 1:05:53
  Carson Home coach. Sometimes.
• 1:05:56
  He's doing some stuff just to from just
• 1:05:59
  to show to the world, some some
• 1:06:02
  totally crazy approach. Even though this just a
• 1:06:06
  show off, not necessarily, like a deep top
• 1:06:08
  and in into it. I have no idea
• 1:06:10
  if that's the case with this was this
• 1:06:13
  crazy, you know, the trump bar hitting the,
• 1:06:16
  you know, the bouncy mats on the side
• 1:06:19
  if that's the case, but I know that
• 1:06:21
  that I know from first firsthand coaches, not
• 1:06:23
  the coaches that that that
• 1:06:25
  that that they do some crazy stuff just
• 1:06:27
  to just for the saying doing crazy stuff.
• 1:06:30
  Yeah And I could see that. But don't
• 1:06:33
  call me on that because this this is,
• 1:06:34
  you know, I have I haven't
• 1:06:36
  chance to really ask direct question.
• 1:06:39
  Maybe in...
• 1:06:40
  In the month, Been in the Olympus when
• 1:06:42
  maybe there be. I'll be lucky maybe to
• 1:06:44
  have a to have a coffee with him
• 1:06:46
  at the hotel lobby. Like I had with
• 1:06:49
  randy Huntington years back, then I'll I ask.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah. For sure, can can get some more
• 1:06:53
  clarification at that point. I think either way
• 1:06:54
  it's certainly a very extreme training regimen like
• 1:06:57
  from... Top to bottom. So does this... Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  I it does remind me too I think
• 1:07:01
  about, like, like, the Russians when the the
• 1:07:04
  story goes when the D jobs first came
• 1:07:05
  out, They tricked the Americans Saying it was
• 1:07:07
  90 or, like, you, just things that are
• 1:07:09
  just like that. Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  So I do it... They don't do it
• 1:07:13
  they don't do it anymore.
• 1:07:15
  And you, you know, Poland was under under
• 1:07:17
  like, you know it with the eastern blu
• 1:07:18
  and everything. Nobody nobody did it, you know,
• 1:07:21
  4 formidable 9 9 feet. This that jumps.
• 1:07:24
  People would die. Yeah. The the only people
• 1:07:26
  I've seen do anything like that is as
• 1:07:28
  I've seen a few, like, there was that
• 1:07:30
  Japanese high jumper it was in a research
• 1:07:31
  study. I think it was like a or
• 1:07:33
  7 foot up jump or something like that.
• 1:07:35
  But it was just... I think it was
• 1:07:37
  just to find out. I don't think... Okay.
• 1:07:39
  I don't think the actually do that. But
• 1:07:41
  the thing is is all the Japanese athletes
• 1:07:43
  I've seen. That if you wanna talk, like
• 1:07:45
  high reactive strength index, super bouncy. That that
• 1:07:48
  group actually Like, I really enjoy watching, you
• 1:07:51
  know, it's like the world with Instagram now
• 1:07:53
  you see all these training videos from Japanese
• 1:07:55
  groups and it's all extremely spring y.
• 1:07:58
  Yeah. Or so I think even than a
• 1:08:00
  lot of other cultures in countries. So it
• 1:08:01
  makes sense like, yes. Know, you know, I
• 1:08:04
  can do a depth jump from 7 feet.
• 1:08:06
  That doesn't mean I'm... You know, that like,
• 1:08:07
  part of normal training, but they're training. Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  I I mean, I believe they can do
• 1:08:11
  it based off with whole with their training.
• 1:08:13
  What... What what I'm considering to it also
• 1:08:15
  because I know that... That 1 of the
• 1:08:17
  pinnacle of of of at least spring spring
• 1:08:19
  training in Japan is is maintaining low body
• 1:08:22
  the weight. Mh. Yeah. So this could be
• 1:08:24
  also the case it's... It'll be different if
• 1:08:26
  you if if you throw, you know,
• 1:08:29
  200 pulse muscular guy to to to make
• 1:08:31
  him, you know, 7 8
• 1:08:33
  feed drop jumps versus versus, you know, hundred
• 1:08:36
  and 40,
• 1:08:37
  hundred and 40
• 1:08:39
  pounds
• 1:08:40
  skinny,
• 1:08:41
  Japanese.
• 1:08:43
  Sprinter. And
• 1:08:44
  when when you look at the body type
• 1:08:46
  of of the the Japanese sprinter they are
• 1:08:48
  very slim. Mh. I think the slim is
• 1:08:50
  in the in the in the,
• 1:08:53
  you know, when the in the arena when
• 1:08:54
  you... When when they're on the finals.
• 1:08:56
  That's also
• 1:08:58
  maybe the case, maybe not.
• 1:09:00
  Yeah. There's that 1 sprinter,
• 1:09:02
  Japanese Sprinter. I wanna see he's, like, a
• 1:09:04
  10 o 0 guy or somewhere in that
• 1:09:06
  world. And his start is, like, the most
• 1:09:08
  unique, like his back is totally hunch over.
• 1:09:11
  Just comes out just straight spinning.
• 1:09:13
  But I I and I think people would
• 1:09:15
  say, well, how could you get away with
• 1:09:16
  that? Or is that the best? It's like,
• 1:09:17
  I of, that guy probably weighs.
• 1:09:19
  I don't know what his height weight is,
• 1:09:21
  but I'm sure his body mass index index
• 1:09:23
  is extremely low and his reactivity is extremely
• 1:09:26
  high. So it's like the only body type
• 1:09:28
  you could have that could get away with
• 1:09:29
  that kind of thing. Yeah. So it's interesting
• 1:09:32
  to think about? Yeah. And he's he here.
• 1:09:34
  The last season, he was also brief. Pre
• 1:09:36
  fa over 60 meters, so that's also interesting
• 1:09:38
  year. It being that that that lightweight skinny.
• 1:09:40
  So he was like max 06:50.
• 1:09:42
  So it's it's it's pretty good result for
• 1:09:45
  the What the Japanese guy? Yeah. Yeah. It's
• 1:09:47
  it's really amazing. It almost seeing things like
• 1:09:49
  that almost makes me know even though, like,
• 1:09:51
  that start,
• 1:09:53
  Hey if I was to, you know, getting
• 1:09:55
  the blocks and sprint, that would not be
• 1:09:56
  the best start for me. But it'd be
• 1:09:58
  fun just to try it just to be
• 1:09:59
  like, What's this guy's body going through. You
• 1:10:01
  know, how is he's helping this problem. I
• 1:10:03
  just think... Sometimes I think we don't try
• 1:10:05
  that enough. We just... It's fun to just
• 1:10:07
  do different techniques, sometimes just just for the
• 1:10:09
  fun of it, just for the...
• 1:10:11
  Exploration how someone's
• 1:10:13
  absolutely.
• 1:10:15
  So I did wanna... You, 1 of the
• 1:10:16
  last topics I wanted to get onto here
• 1:10:19
  and it just... I know you've evolved this
• 1:10:21
  system. It's been something you've have a lot
• 1:10:22
  of experience with is the the run specific
• 1:10:25
  isometric. So, like, the maximal...
• 1:10:27
  Getting a semi sprint or sprint position and
• 1:10:29
  press into a bar loaded as isometric as
• 1:10:32
  hard as to can measure it.
• 1:10:34
  I think you're even using, like, a... The
• 1:10:35
  scale you're using was really single you mentioned,
• 1:10:37
  like, it was, like, I don't know it's
• 1:10:39
  a phishing skill. I don't know you're using.
• 1:10:41
  Yeah. Yeah. But, A bit more about that
• 1:10:43
  how you it evolve for you. Single that
• 1:10:45
  was at some point. Yes. Yeah. I evolved
• 1:10:47
  like into into really more advanced, you know,
• 1:10:50
  dynamic meters, really by high end, high end
• 1:10:53
  stuff, but
• 1:10:55
  the the run specific ge metrics, you know,
• 1:10:57
  we we have to give credits to to
• 1:10:59
  Alex Tara who at some point was was
• 1:11:02
  was
• 1:11:04
  important
• 1:11:05
  influencer. And and like a like a like
• 1:11:07
  a direct support to me like it was
• 1:11:10
  I can even say that my elite hurdle
• 1:11:12
  back then 20 18, 20 19.
• 1:11:15
  That was, I think, Alex Could could,
• 1:11:19
  maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but I
• 1:11:20
  think
• 1:11:21
  that that she was the the first, like,
• 1:11:23
  really a little level athlete who who who
• 1:11:26
  who really went
• 1:11:28
  we went deeply into exploring, but Alex approached
• 1:11:31
  is
• 1:11:32
  his
• 1:11:34
  ran specific guys asos back then. And I
• 1:11:37
  was in a direct contact with with him
• 1:11:39
  he I consulted and and definitely
• 1:11:41
  it was a big camp.
• 1:11:43
  He was a big hand for me back
• 1:11:44
  then even we ended up like Doha, this
• 1:11:46
  the Aspire academy where where where he spent
• 1:11:49
  years,
• 1:11:50
  years training and coaching and we were done.
• 1:11:52
  So until now if even now 20 24,
• 1:11:56
  in Alex,
• 1:11:57
  when he when he... When he runs his
• 1:11:59
  clinics on on around specific guys All over
• 1:12:02
  the world, and at least
• 1:12:04
  he had, like, a, like, a huge tour
• 1:12:06
  or across Europe this this spring. So so
• 1:12:10
  he still presents my course, with with
• 1:12:13
  the we agreed on that. Guy. He presents
• 1:12:15
  my my athlete.
• 1:12:16
  There's female hurdle training from, like, 20 18,
• 1:12:19
  20, 20 19, and it was very successful
• 1:12:21
  for me. But at some point,
• 1:12:24
  I started
• 1:12:25
  looking into limitations that of course
• 1:12:30
  the tenants
• 1:12:32
  and
• 1:12:33
  all those benefits
• 1:12:34
  from those
• 1:12:35
  shorter and and longer iso types of iso,
• 1:12:38
  we don't need to explore it because it's
• 1:12:40
  it's it's it's
• 1:12:42
  like wide known
• 1:12:44
  nowadays.
• 1:12:46
  III
• 1:12:47
  tried it tell about about the limitations that
• 1:12:49
  I started finding in the in the system
• 1:12:52
  itself as as a as a whole. And,
• 1:12:54
  of course, that that's that's the Ada bar,
• 1:12:57
  ada bar who who changed my mind into
• 1:13:00
  into levers and the angular momentum.
• 1:13:03
  So
• 1:13:05
  at some point, III get into into
• 1:13:08
  a conclusion that that's it's
• 1:13:12
  The around specific isometric, it's so much built
• 1:13:16
  around pushing against object.
• 1:13:20
  Even though the the the benefits for the
• 1:13:22
  for the tissues for sure that that they
• 1:13:24
  are there. And and I'm I'm a hundred
• 1:13:26
  percent
• 1:13:27
  convinced that the the system,
• 1:13:29
  is is able to to support and help
• 1:13:32
  been a training of of running community. I
• 1:13:34
  wouldn't say that margin elite sprint community, but
• 1:13:37
  definitely for running community, that's a great thing.
• 1:13:40
  For for many Coaches,
• 1:13:42
  I advise to follow follow Alex
• 1:13:45
  ideas because they were great. They are groundbreaking.
• 1:13:47
  But
• 1:13:48
  the elite level printing I found that there's
• 1:13:51
  too much focusing
• 1:13:53
  even the the athletes mind around pushing against
• 1:13:56
  object. And at some point, does it?
• 1:13:59
  Sprint is not about pushing. It's angular momentum
• 1:14:02
  and the pool that follows kind of thing.
• 1:14:05
  I'm
• 1:14:06
  so I mean, that that that was something
• 1:14:08
  that the I kind of started the looking
• 1:14:10
  into.
• 1:14:12
  So
• 1:14:13
  another another thing that that... Another limitation that
• 1:14:16
  I found and and and
• 1:14:19
  move away from from the system itself was
• 1:14:22
  that I wasn't able to explore levers.
• 1:14:24
  So I said, I cannot really train the
• 1:14:26
  athlete in the in the tool to make
• 1:14:28
  him stronger
• 1:14:29
  and maintaining the the body position that that
• 1:14:33
  maintained the left... Particular level function in the
• 1:14:36
  at the particular point of time because it
• 1:14:39
  it's changing dynamically,
• 1:14:41
  So I can't really train the levers, I
• 1:14:43
  cannot really train the the the pulling
• 1:14:46
  kind of thing. And the further you look
• 1:14:48
  into,
• 1:14:50
  The only action that the that the muscle
• 1:14:53
  is able to create is the pulling force.
• 1:14:57
  So even when you push your object, the
• 1:14:59
  only
• 1:15:00
  direction of the 4 that your muscle and
• 1:15:02
  a muscle through your body is able to
• 1:15:04
  create.
• 1:15:05
  Through contraction
• 1:15:07
  is pulling.
• 1:15:09
  So, of course, when you when you look
• 1:15:10
  through through the whole system and when when
• 1:15:12
  you look through the,
• 1:15:17
  is that a concept. If if you look
• 1:15:18
  through just the
• 1:15:20
  reality because it's not just an idea. So
• 1:15:23
  we are, like the the combination of of
• 1:15:25
  of of
• 1:15:27
  of muscles that pool and the strings that
• 1:15:30
  that... Transfer the the forces. But the only
• 1:15:33
  direction that the muscle is being create is
• 1:15:35
  like the pulling inside.
• 1:15:37
  From attachment to the attachment is pulling.
• 1:15:40
  So even when you push something, your muscles
• 1:15:42
  are pulling
• 1:15:44
  inside. And the the the the the the
• 1:15:47
  outcome, of course, you push the car, you
• 1:15:48
  push the bar on anything.
• 1:15:50
  But the muscles only pull inside. So that
• 1:15:53
  was another reason for me. I didn't want
• 1:15:55
  to program
• 1:15:56
  even at the at the, you know,
• 1:16:00
  the mental level. I didn't want to lock
• 1:16:02
  my athletes into pushing motion.
• 1:16:05
  So that was 111 of the
• 1:16:08
  1 of the the reasons I started to
• 1:16:10
  export this little bit further I kind of
• 1:16:12
  build my my current version of the of
• 1:16:15
  the in of the training system that III
• 1:16:19
  evolved into kind of thing. So... But still,
• 1:16:23
  Alex helped me a lot like 20 18,
• 1:16:25
  like, 6, 7 years ago, but... And I
• 1:16:27
  still recommend this this training as maybe
• 1:16:31
  introduction into into Isometric that trending, within a
• 1:16:35
  running community. So this this this can help
• 1:16:37
  a lot.
• 1:16:38
  Yeah so that that that would be the
• 1:16:40
  the limitation that I found in and in
• 1:16:42
  the too much pushing and and the the
• 1:16:45
  not having a chance to really work through
• 1:16:47
  levers I wanted to work found Yeah. I...
• 1:16:49
  You know, you said you had start with
• 1:16:51
  a phishing scale. And I I was jealous
• 1:16:53
  even... Would you told me that. That was
• 1:16:55
  out of how long ago that was. Because
• 1:16:57
  the only thing I was able to do
• 1:16:58
  was just, like a functional... I think it
• 1:17:00
  was like a Christian Tv inspired adaptation, maybe
• 1:17:02
  I say you mentioned this as well where
• 1:17:04
  you just load a bar up.
• 1:17:06
  To to 99 percent and lift it off
• 1:17:08
  an inch, you know, and and do. It's
• 1:17:10
  just a lot of plates on and off
• 1:17:12
  and trying to get the rack in the
• 1:17:13
  right place and But you could do it.
• 1:17:15
  I I finally got
• 1:17:16
  these these force meters are so much more
• 1:17:19
  common now. I got, like, a... It's a
• 1:17:20
  climbing company called Tin.
• 1:17:22
  And it's for finger strength, but it's a
• 1:17:24
  500 kilogram, you a little thing and I
• 1:17:26
  hook it up to the K box and
• 1:17:27
  my harness and it's like I can do
• 1:17:29
  this now. I found the tendon benefits like
• 1:17:32
  like, achilles at any sort of achilles issues
• 1:17:34
  has been really good as well. So it's...
• 1:17:37
  Outside of the idea with the pushing. So...
• 1:17:39
  On
• 1:17:40
  absolutely absolutely. Mean I think that the
• 1:17:44
  in the
• 1:17:45
  even Alex approach. This can be like a
• 1:17:47
  huge place, a huge potential in in the
• 1:17:49
  more rehab. Yeah. Also
• 1:17:52
  definitely. Like like like, over the summer,
• 1:17:55
  1 of the... 1... You know, like, I
• 1:17:57
  mentioned my at is need, like, a long
• 1:17:58
  back 2 or 3 months, like a like
• 1:18:00
  a pure vacation. Or we don't want them
• 1:18:02
  bring too much too much just just staying
• 1:18:05
  healthy,
• 1:18:06
  generally healthy just
• 1:18:08
  and the 1 thing that this is the
• 1:18:09
  also the moment,
• 1:18:12
  were
• 1:18:12
  combination of pure combination of Alex system
• 1:18:17
  combined
• 1:18:17
  with the Kid bar approach
• 1:18:21
  where where you're passing the point of of
• 1:18:23
  muscle relaxation. So so over the 3 months,
• 1:18:26
  all of my athletes needs to really
• 1:18:28
  stay and the and
• 1:18:30
  maintaining healthy
• 1:18:32
  attendance
• 1:18:33
  working through, like a a 30 seconds plus
• 1:18:36
  isometric. And for that reason,
• 1:18:38
  Alex approach would be perfect. But we... I'm
• 1:18:40
  not training, you know, the sprint skills. I'm
• 1:18:43
  only maintaining the health of of of their
• 1:18:45
  achilles stand. Of course, with the with the
• 1:18:48
  with a gelatin and the vitamin c
• 1:18:50
  supplementation. Again, Kit Barr, I haven't mentioned him
• 1:18:53
  And never had a chance to meet him
• 1:18:55
  even though I wasn't when when I was
• 1:18:57
  visiting
• 1:18:58
  Ed in Woodland still. So it was really
• 1:19:00
  close to University of Davis Was still back
• 1:19:02
  then. But his his
• 1:19:05
  his his work is is is is is
• 1:19:08
  is important.
• 1:19:10
  So my summer training is a combination of
• 1:19:13
  of key bar approach.
• 1:19:15
  Delivered through Alex Nat
• 1:19:17
  specific guys isometric,
• 1:19:18
  just purely for random term, tandem health.
• 1:19:22
  Because, you know, when you were working on
• 1:19:23
  the
• 1:19:24
  purely speed.
• 1:19:26
  It's always
• 1:19:28
  not enough time for everything. So I'd rather
• 1:19:29
  to do, like, a 3 months of,
• 1:19:32
  you know,
• 1:19:33
  I can be spot over the summer. Yeah.
• 1:19:37
  So it was just a couple... 1 1
• 1:19:39
  thing and then a question is, you know,
• 1:19:40
  you mentioned, I I really love you put
• 1:19:42
  together the the polling and the tense.
• 1:19:45
  If right... The thing that makes me laugh
• 1:19:47
  is David We when he was on the
• 1:19:48
  show, like, 300 episodes ago. He had said,
• 1:19:50
  like, I don't like the word push. It's
• 1:19:52
  too slow. It's like, pull is much faster,
• 1:19:55
  and it's just like... But yeah, if you
• 1:19:57
  think of it, yeah, from that tenth second,
• 1:19:59
  you're just pulling.
• 1:20:00
  On the tenth secretary system. It makes a
• 1:20:02
  lot of sense. And, you know, my perception
• 1:20:04
  and, you know, next time, Da on the
• 1:20:06
  show where I talked to him I'll have
• 1:20:07
  to ask him, like, his clarification on this,
• 1:20:09
  but my perception of how he approaches movement
• 1:20:12
  is. It's like a sensation and isometric in
• 1:20:15
  the foot or wherever you need to feel
• 1:20:16
  an isometric,
• 1:20:17
  In a semi squad position with a pulling.
• 1:20:20
  It's like to find the iso, you're in
• 1:20:22
  a squad enough position to leverage strength. And
• 1:20:24
  then add a pull onto things. So we're
• 1:20:26
  out a fall. A a fall is kind
• 1:20:27
  of a pull. Yeah. So it's it's
• 1:20:30
  and you'll be in a you've been pulled
• 1:20:32
  by the by the mother at. Yes. Do
• 1:20:34
  you exactly. And even the squat run. That's...
• 1:20:36
  That's another thing too. Is I just... I
• 1:20:38
  was trying to find ways to think. How
• 1:20:39
  do you communicate that this isn't like... More
• 1:20:41
  be labor
• 1:20:42
  sprint.
• 1:20:43
  I mean I guess you could say in
• 1:20:44
  AII
• 1:20:45
  ran a squat 4 a hundred at the
• 1:20:46
  end of 1 of Da practices, and that
• 1:20:48
  was be sprint. I would not advise running
• 1:20:50
  a 400 like that. But the thing is...
• 1:20:52
  Yeah. That that... That's great. That's crazy. We
• 1:20:54
  tried. Yeah I tried with my guys... You
• 1:20:56
  you always my example. I I always explain
• 1:20:58
  to my guys. Hey. I know it dude.
• 1:21:00
  Who did it over 400 meters. So just...
• 1:21:03
  You're lucky and you're lucky that I only
• 1:21:05
  want you to do it over 40 meters.
• 1:21:06
  Not 400 but You're always my examples. I'll
• 1:21:09
  video myself doing it. That'll be a good.
• 1:21:11
  That'll be maybe a viral video. I don't
• 1:21:12
  know.
• 1:21:13
  But I feel like what makes the squat
• 1:21:15
  run run work. With the timing is that
• 1:21:17
  it feels more like a pole than a
• 1:21:18
  push. When it feels like yeah whole, it's
• 1:21:21
  not like muscular
• 1:21:22
  overload. You're using all the all the muscular
• 1:21:25
  and the connect of tissues in tandem, and
• 1:21:27
  it's like you're pulling yourself forward it and
• 1:21:28
  the levers are what give you the platform
• 1:21:30
  because you have, a sharper lever, dip angle
• 1:21:33
  in the back to to platform? Yes. And
• 1:21:35
  and imagine that that I also apply like
• 1:21:38
  a a light light sled?
• 1:21:41
  Towards the quarter run, then then the sensation
• 1:21:43
  of pulling in is even increased because of
• 1:21:46
  the a really lightweight
• 1:21:48
  the the... It's it's it's got because you,
• 1:21:50
  you know, the motions got nothing to do
• 1:21:51
  with the with the with the clean blocks
• 1:21:53
  with, like, you know, heavy resistance being pulled.
• 1:21:56
  But but if I when I apply, like,
• 1:21:58
  really light sweat for the quarter runs, then
• 1:22:02
  the the ethic can really explore
• 1:22:05
  what the pulling is about in in motion?
• 1:22:07
  Yeah. That's just the trick. It's how to
• 1:22:10
  create a environment where athletes can feel themselves.
• 1:22:13
  Pulling themselves forward. Versus, it seems like 99
• 1:22:17
  percent of the queue is just telling you
• 1:22:18
  with pushing or hitting the ground or hit
• 1:22:20
  the ground hotter or teach you how to
• 1:22:21
  apply force,
• 1:22:23
  which had nothing to do with the body's
• 1:22:24
  tense system a lot of to not to
• 1:22:26
  pull itself so. Push your hips away from
• 1:22:28
  the ground by being high hips and and
• 1:22:31
  things like that.
• 1:22:32
  And the opposite of it that the body
• 1:22:34
  wants to do. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely.
• 1:22:38
  So with the the...
• 1:22:40
  Do you do in in place then of,
• 1:22:41
  like, So, you know, run specific or tenant
• 1:22:43
  health and then you mentioned extreme iso as
• 1:22:45
  well So if are you... Does the oscillator
• 1:22:48
  work kind of take... Place of where that
• 1:22:50
  might be. You know, again, you could say,
• 1:22:51
  you only have so many things in the
• 1:22:52
  program.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah. And more of the stuff,
• 1:22:56
  the Or Yeah. It's kind of. III just
• 1:22:58
  build, like, the... Because there's still the the
• 1:23:01
  the iso asos
• 1:23:03
  various type of iso It's like a a
• 1:23:06
  pinnacle of my my strength training. So I
• 1:23:08
  had to build like, the
• 1:23:10
  the
• 1:23:11
  the way how to incorporate the pulling, but
• 1:23:13
  it's it's
• 1:23:15
  it's not easy to to do when when
• 1:23:18
  you push against against the bar that has
• 1:23:20
  been either, you know, blocked under the hooks
• 1:23:22
  or or
• 1:23:23
  or or,
• 1:23:25
  you know, there's a way that you cannot
• 1:23:26
  really lift. So
• 1:23:29
  I think we can explore this maybe, maybe
• 1:23:31
  there there be a chance to to sit
• 1:23:33
  again because, you know, we...
• 1:23:35
  I believe there's still so many topics we
• 1:23:37
  can explore and I enjoy the conversation. So
• 1:23:39
  maybe
• 1:23:40
  in couple months time or so
• 1:23:43
  we can divide the whole session into getting
• 1:23:45
  into
• 1:23:47
  the
• 1:23:48
  it's not even evolution of of of Alex
• 1:23:51
  system because Alex system is Alex system. So
• 1:23:55
  but I can... I can I can then
• 1:23:58
  talk about the the the my system that
• 1:24:00
  was from inspired by by great work of
• 1:24:03
  Alex Nat natasha? Yeah.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah. But, yeah. Maybe it was framing it
• 1:24:07
  up how you evolved it probably a different
• 1:24:09
  way to frame that. Because, like, yeah, like,
• 1:24:11
  you said, it is his system. And
• 1:24:13
  Yeah. It's even just getting onto the... Being
• 1:24:15
  able to actually see
• 1:24:17
  the meter of the force on. I'm just
• 1:24:19
  like a kid the candy shop, because I've
• 1:24:20
  just gotten started with just and the tend
• 1:24:22
  health, and and the met... Even the, the
• 1:24:24
  readiness using it is a readiness metric. You
• 1:24:26
  know, has been really.
• 1:24:28
  Yep.
• 1:24:29
  So... Anyways, yeah, Peter. Awesome talking to you.
• 1:24:32
  Love the conversation, and so many good things
• 1:24:35
  to for both
• 1:24:37
  Conversation and then thanks to think about the
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  training down the road, So I really appreciate
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  your time on the show. Thank you again.
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  Thank you. Thank you for your invitation.
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  Thanks for tuning in to another episode. I
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  appreciate you being here, and I'll see you
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  next week.