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Tigs Back To Winning Entering Trade Deadline · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger's Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network as a Tiger's podcast, I'm Kemscley.
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  Speaker 1: We got Austin Jackson, we got Cody Stavenhagen, and.
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  Speaker 2: We got good vibes. The Tigers won a game today Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: ten to four. Kind of a long game there at
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  Speaker 2: the end, but that's okay. We get to talk about
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  Speaker 2: a Tigers win. That makes makes the moodle all that
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  Speaker 2: much better.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I just want to start there Cody, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to Austin a second winning clubhouse.
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  Speaker 3: What was that like? What was that like?
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  Speaker 4: Seemed like some nice little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'd kind of forgotten, h what it felt like?
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  Speaker 5: Right if we were to be recording Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Vibes weren't good. Vibes weren't good, and the vibes aren't
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be good. So I don't think that's an
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  Speaker 5: indication of the players or whatever. You lose twelve or thirteen,
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  Speaker 5: you can't really expect good vibe. But I think it
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  Speaker 5: was starting to set in. It was starting to get frustrating,
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  Speaker 5: It was starting to get kind of just depressing. Man,
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  Speaker 5: wasn't really a fun place to be there for a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. And we'll see how the Tigers respond coming
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  Speaker 5: up against Arizona going forward into August. It's got to
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  Speaker 5: start with one, right And they finally got one. I
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  Speaker 5: thought it was gonna come sooner than it did, but
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  Speaker 5: they finally got one. I think it was a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of a relief, a little bit of an ex
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  Speaker 5: hil everyone got to smile, have some fun again. Austin,
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  Speaker 5: you can probably provide a lot better perspective on what
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  Speaker 5: it's like going through those those things as a player,
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  Speaker 5: But vibe Sunday way better than they had been in
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  Speaker 5: the past few days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's the thing like if you
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  Speaker 3: if you let you know, wins and losses dictate, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you showing up to the ballpark and being, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just just happy to be there, man Like, happy to
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  Speaker 3: show up to your job each and every day and
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  Speaker 3: do your job. Dude. You know, we we knew this
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  Speaker 3: was going to happen, right, Like we talked about it,
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  Speaker 3: like when was it going to happen? When were they
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  Speaker 3: going to kind of face that little bump in the road.
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  Speaker 3: And they've had little spurts of it earlier in the
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  Speaker 3: season previous you know, to this, and they kind of
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  Speaker 3: got out of it really quick, so it kind of
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  Speaker 3: erased that any any doubts or thoughts in your mind
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  Speaker 3: that Okay, no, they're still good. This has been a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of an extended, you know, stretch of where
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  Speaker 3: they haven't been playing the best baseball. But what what
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  Speaker 3: really changes? You know, Like I know, as fans, we
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  Speaker 3: look at it and we're like, ah, man, they're struggling
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  Speaker 3: and need to do this trade deadline is coming, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: they need to make these big trades. Just know you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to give something up though for that, Like
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to give up the future, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's one thing. But this team, this is they're still
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  Speaker 3: good though, like they have every A lot of the
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  Speaker 3: good teams have been through this. We watched the Dodgers
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  Speaker 3: get thumped for a little bit. We still know they're
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers though, and at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: like we don't, like a lot of teams really don't
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  Speaker 3: want to face them like that, Like especially late in
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  Speaker 3: the season, not in the playoffs, you ain't really you're
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  Speaker 3: trying to knock them out. So these teams are the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers have a target on their back. So when teams
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  Speaker 3: are playing them, they're giving them the best. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're playing against one of the best teams from a
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  Speaker 3: statistical standpoint, and they're giving them their best. You know.
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  Speaker 3: The Blue Jays have really you know, they gave the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers everything they got. If you look at how they
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  Speaker 3: played against the Tigers, I mean this team looked. That
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  Speaker 3: team looks like a you know, like they got Hall
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  Speaker 3: of famers up and down the lineup, and it's like, eh,
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  Speaker 3: we know what it is. This this Tiger team is
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  Speaker 3: facing a little bit up in the road. It was
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  Speaker 3: great today to see them get back to scoring runs.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it's gonna take. This team has scored runs
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  Speaker 3: before the All Star break. They were right around five runs,
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  Speaker 3: and they took a little dip. They the pitching is still,
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  Speaker 3: you know, consistent, staying on that same level that they've
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  Speaker 3: been at pretty much the whole year. The offensive took
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  Speaker 3: a little dip, you know, and again, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: just because a lot of the teams that are coming in,
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  Speaker 3: any teams that are facing on the road, Hey, they
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  Speaker 3: know what this Tiger team is capable of, so they're
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  Speaker 3: giving them everything they got.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's interesting to look at
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  Speaker 5: some of the numbers of just how bad this losing
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  Speaker 5: streak was. Like I think even last time we talked,
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  Speaker 5: it was like, Okay, well they're probably gonna come out
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  Speaker 5: of this, you get back home, whatever, you go through
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  Speaker 5: these stretches. But it did extend, and then the Tigers
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  Speaker 5: are the only team in modern history to have a
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  Speaker 5: thirteen game span where they get out scored by fifty
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  Speaker 5: or more runs, where they get out hit by fifty
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  Speaker 5: or more hits, where they have fewer than twenty five
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  Speaker 5: extra base hits, and where you strike out one hundred
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  Speaker 5: and twenty five or more times. That's a lot going
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  Speaker 5: on there that tells you that this it came more
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  Speaker 5: than a rough patch, more than a bumper in the road.
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  Speaker 5: It was actually like a historically bad thirteen games. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what to make of that. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: what that means going forward. I'm not sure it's even
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  Speaker 5: wise to try to predict. I mean, I think we've
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  Speaker 5: talked about, like there's a lot of evidence Austin to
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  Speaker 5: your point, like that this is a good team. The
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  Speaker 5: run differential, the way they've played over one hundred games. No,
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  Speaker 5: maybe this is great. Maybe this means they're just gonna
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  Speaker 5: be due to get on fire in September. I think
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  Speaker 5: we could expect some regression, especially offensively, when you had
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  Speaker 5: guys like Paiaz, like McKinstry and others, Dylan Dingler, you know,
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  Speaker 5: who's actually still hitting pretty well. I think it was
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  Speaker 5: reasonable that some of these guys were gonna cool off,
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  Speaker 5: that some of these guys maybe weren't gonna play as
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  Speaker 5: well in the second half as they did the first August.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be important to get some contributions for some
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  Speaker 5: guys we haven't been talking about as much, Parker Meadows
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  Speaker 5: being a huge one total X factor there, Matt Vierling,
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  Speaker 5: some of these guys who have been rusty. Like, if
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  Speaker 5: some of these other guys level off, I think that's
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  Speaker 5: who the Tigers are looking to to pick up the slack.
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  Speaker 5: And that's gonna end up being as important, if not
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  Speaker 5: more important, than anything they do at the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And I've made this point before in regards to
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  Speaker 1: like team additions, like getting a healthy Carpenter is a
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  Speaker 1: team addition, it's not a you know, and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about him here in a second it's not a you know,
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  Speaker 1: new to the season edition, but it is an addition.
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  Speaker 1: Parker Meadow's giving you something offensively, which it seems like
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  Speaker 1: he's starting to see the ball a little bit better
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  Speaker 1: and he's stringing together hits at a better clip.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe that's that's a sign.
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  Speaker 1: But I said last week Austin, I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there is this stretch that they're in is going to
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  Speaker 1: be remembered as a part of the team story regardless
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  Speaker 1: the tone is what's going to change, Like, oh, they
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  Speaker 1: went through that patch and then they became Division champions,
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  Speaker 1: America League champions, World SCIS champions, whatever, or they went
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  Speaker 1: through that rough patch and it just was this colossal
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  Speaker 1: slide into mediocrity or worse. And so like a day
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  Speaker 1: like today was I'm you know, sure for the players
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  Speaker 1: much needed, but a day like today was a good
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  Speaker 1: reminder for baseball, for fans, for commentators media of like
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  Speaker 1: what this team is capable of because you know, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: just hadn't seen.
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  Speaker 4: It in a bit.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, if there's ever a time for recency bias,
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  Speaker 1: you know, trade deadline and the intensity of that, those
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  Speaker 1: are those are moments that are right for that kind
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  Speaker 1: of emotion and and if and it feels good to
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  Speaker 1: see them kind of stick to their process. You bring
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  Speaker 1: that up all the time, Austin, It's good to see
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  Speaker 1: them stick to their process and have the right attitude.
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  Speaker 1: Aj with his leadership, you know, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a big part of that, uh.
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  Speaker 4: The leadership example.
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  Speaker 1: Trek School has also you know, been outspoken about this,
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  Speaker 1: like how big is leadership in a clubhouse, either for
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  Speaker 1: player or coach when you're when things are when everything
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  Speaker 1: is going wrong, it seems like and you can do
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  Speaker 1: no right? Like how important you obviously played for some
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  Speaker 1: great leaders and with some great leaders. How important is
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  Speaker 1: that element to kind of getting now the rut.
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  Speaker 3: Leadership I think is something that's you. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: not really understood. I mean, yeah, we know you have
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  Speaker 3: your leaders and a lot of the times, I think
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  Speaker 3: the the leaders are looked at as the guys that
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  Speaker 3: are doing the best, the all stars, the future Hall
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  Speaker 3: of famers. But there's so much more to it than
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  Speaker 3: just those guys. I mean, there's guys that are utility guys.
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  Speaker 3: You know Don Kelly, when I played, you know, for
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers team, he was a leader he was a leader.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't this the most outspoken leader, but you you followed,
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  Speaker 3: You followed dk Man because he had this presence about him.
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  Speaker 3: And that's in a in a locker room, there has
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  Speaker 3: to be multiple leaders. There has to be those veteran leaders.
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  Speaker 3: There has to be you know, the all stars that
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  Speaker 3: that kind of uh that kind of comes with the territory, right,
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  Speaker 3: But then there's the guys that the veteran guys, the
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  Speaker 3: guys that have been around the most, the guys that
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  Speaker 3: have experienced the downs, the dips in the season. And
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  Speaker 3: then there's you know, the young guys. You know, there's
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  Speaker 3: some young guys that kind of carry that leadership role
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  Speaker 3: as well. I remember when I was with the Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: the Indians at the time, and at the time I
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  Speaker 3: had more time than Francisco Lindor, but it was the
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  Speaker 3: way that he carried hisself on a daily basis, and
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  Speaker 3: that that's something that's needed. You need a few different
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  Speaker 3: leaders in that locker room to keep you know, just
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  Speaker 3: keep things smooth, keep things going on. When hey, we're
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  Speaker 3: going through a tough patch right here, but we're still
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  Speaker 3: getting our work in each and every day. We're still
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  Speaker 3: enjoying each other. It's still a brotherhood. We're still coming
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  Speaker 3: here to this ballpark and join each other and making sure, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm holding you accountable, hold me accountable. That's that's just
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  Speaker 3: what it is. In the locker room. There's so much,
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  Speaker 3: so many different aspects of being a leadership in the
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  Speaker 3: locker room. And it's not just one guy. It's not
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  Speaker 3: just Schoogle, it's not just Green. It's it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: really like a village in there, and it's it's it
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  Speaker 3: takes a number of guys to kind of step up
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  Speaker 3: and take leadership role and whatever it looks like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it looks like for that particular person, they have
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  Speaker 3: to do that. If you're the guy that gets everybody, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, express those shots every day. We expecting them
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  Speaker 3: expresso shots every day. We need them because that's what
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  Speaker 3: you That's what it takes. That's what keeps this this
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  Speaker 3: this engine going, you know, that's what keeps it loved up,
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  Speaker 3: is everybody doing their part. So I believe that that's
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  Speaker 3: what they're doing. I don't think they're obviously you said that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the mood in the clubhouse is it's been
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  Speaker 3: a little different. Nobody likes to lose. You know, these
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  Speaker 3: guys are uh, you know, they've been on a historic
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  Speaker 3: pace you know, for for uh, for this organization and
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  Speaker 3: to take a little dip, which you know we talked
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  Speaker 3: about that. You know, it's a little surprising because of
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  Speaker 3: this lead that they built. But hey, like I like
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  Speaker 3: I keep mentioned like teams are coming for you. They're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna lay down just because you got one of
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  Speaker 3: the best records. And fortunately enough they have built up
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of a cushion to where something like
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  Speaker 3: this it doesn't hurt as much. But as fans we
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  Speaker 3: look at it like, hey, yeah, you know, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: need to get it going. They're coming. You know, they're
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  Speaker 3: eight games, They're not you know, seven and a half games. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's kind of creeping. But I don't think they
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  Speaker 3: need to get away from who they are. You know,
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  Speaker 3: this game is played way differently than when I played
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  Speaker 3: to where you know, the manufacturer runs. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: had to play a little small ball. But you see,
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  Speaker 3: you know, today they get back. You know, they start
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  Speaker 3: that they knight that offense with a boom with a bomb.
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  Speaker 3: They that that's valued a little bit more so, like
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  Speaker 3: like a shooter in basketball. You know, if you know
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  Speaker 3: you're a thirty seven thirty three point shooter and you're
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  Speaker 3: you're struggling the past three four games, what they gonna
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  Speaker 3: tell you keep shooting the ball, right, They ain't gonna
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  Speaker 3: tell you, hey, let's start changing mechanics and no, keep
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  Speaker 3: swinging the back. This is what gotchall here. Eventually it's
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  Speaker 3: going to turn around. We've seen it, Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: with with La, you know, they went through a little stretch.
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  Speaker 3: Even watched it with the Guardians. They went through a
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  Speaker 3: little stretch, came out came out of it with a
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  Speaker 3: would a I think of a Grand Slam in Houston,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like, oh, I thought y'all should be
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  Speaker 3: button runners over. No, it's just you know, a big,
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  Speaker 3: a big hit in a big moment can ignite a team.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened today.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna ask Cody what was the best
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  Speaker 1: You all right coming back here, Cody, So ten runs
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  Speaker 1: including an onslaught there in the in the eighth and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like exercising of demons. Is really what
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  Speaker 1: that looked like for the Tigers at the plate, but
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  Speaker 1: also Jack Flarity. Jack Flarity was on it today, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: So like we've done a lot of Jacks. We know
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  Speaker 1: how important scoring is. Ajax talked about that, but like,
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  Speaker 1: what was what was the best what was the best
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  Speaker 1: sign moving forward for this team? The the offense is
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  Speaker 1: just kind of letting the floodgates open or Jack Flaherty
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  Speaker 1: shutting him down for you know, a hot Toronto team.
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  Speaker 5: Jack was great man. Jack had an impeccable outing like
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  Speaker 5: he was terrific. We've seen a lot of up and
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  Speaker 5: down out of Jack this year, though, so I want
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  Speaker 5: to see him string together a few starts before I
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  Speaker 5: declare anything there. Speaking of string together things, I think
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  Speaker 5: the best thing was was that eighth inning. The Tigers
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  Speaker 5: strung together a few different quality at bats. They hung
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  Speaker 5: in there, they fouled off some tough pitches, They scored
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  Speaker 5: six runs with two outs, got a couple a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of batted ball. Luck also hit a couple of
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  Speaker 5: balls pretty well. Like that was really what we just
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  Speaker 5: had not been seeing every now and then you'd get
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  Speaker 5: a big hit or I go to bat, and then
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  Speaker 5: they would just be this drought man and and in
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  Speaker 5: the eighth inning, Sunday, up and down the order. Pretty
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  Speaker 5: much every guy gave you something quality the type. They
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  Speaker 5: were able to run the bases, you know, aggressively, which
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  Speaker 5: they hadn't been able to do because they didn't have
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  Speaker 5: any traff pick on the bases. It's hard to describe,
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  Speaker 5: like what causes that, what causes it to magically come back,
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  Speaker 5: but the return of multiple quality at bats in a
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  Speaker 5: row was a site for sore eyes. I also got
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  Speaker 5: to point out at least one Twitter accounts can be
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  Speaker 5: mad at this, but I think the biggest story if
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  Speaker 5: Sunday was Kerry Carpenter, Like he didn't get any hits,
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  Speaker 5: but he's back. This guy's a difference maker in your
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  Speaker 5: lineup when he's right. Obviously he has to hit better
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  Speaker 5: than the one ninety four or whatever it is he
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  Speaker 5: hit in June. This guy has not walked since the
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  Speaker 5: end of May. That's gonna have to change. But to
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  Speaker 5: come off the il, this is a big guy in
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  Speaker 5: the middle of your order. This is one of your
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  Speaker 5: better hitters. And I think this is the queen on
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  Speaker 5: aj Hinch's chessboard, Like we all know that if you
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  Speaker 5: don't understand how he affects the rest of the lineup,
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  Speaker 5: then you probably haven't been paying attention to the Tigers
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  Speaker 5: even in the eighth inning here and there are two
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  Speaker 5: outs and the Blue Jays bringing in a lefty because
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  Speaker 5: KRP is up. Carp all right, you're out of the game.
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  Speaker 5: Veerling's up. Is how the Tigers play base hit now. Also,
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  Speaker 5: none of this happens if Riley doesn't get a single
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: against a lefty, which he actually has not been doing
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: much of this year, so that helps. And then you
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: have a run of good matchups. You have three guys
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: in a row who farewell against left handed pitching, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: you're able to tackle on those insurance runs that ended
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: up being needed based on how the ninth unfolded. None
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: of that happens if Kry Carpenter's not on this roster, huge, huge,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: huge To get him back, you just have to hope
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: he can perform like the best version of carry that
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: we've seen.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like cart being back, man, Like you said,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, you said it perfectly, like it's something to
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: do with the presence in that lineup, and you know
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: what he can do. You know, one swing at a
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: back can change the game, and that's that's that's what
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: he brings. Is he the element of like we like,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: we have to switch things up, you know, we got
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to go to the bullpen, we got to bring in
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: a lefty to face him, and and I like that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I like that they have to like that. He adds
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: that type of depth to this lineup that to make
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: teams think they have to you know, uh, you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: strategically bring in you know, different relievers to try to
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: face him and.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: Austin even third inning, does Max Sures or challenge Labor
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Torres with a fastball if he doesn't know Kerry Carpenter
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: or sitting there on that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Hey you said it, dude, you feel me like you see.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: But straight up though, like that's the type of things
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that that he can add, Like that's the type of
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: bat it's so dangerous that you you know they're sitting
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: over there thinking about that. So yeah, no, he probably
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't even challenge him like that, right, Like I mean,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: but another thing too, like Labor was locked in though
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: he was locked in the middle, you know, part of
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the field, and you still got to hit it. But
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: that was a swing that you know, nobody's really taking
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: those type of swings off. Sirs are like that today
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and you know, he's a different bird when he you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: he'll really lock it in those moments left a pitch
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: over the plate. Labor has been doing a great job
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: of staying in that right center field gap. That's when
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: he's going good when he's in that right center field gap.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: And it was in an for sixteen before that at
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: bat came out of the.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Came out of it. And that's that's his that's his game,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you know. I feel like that's his game. I feel
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: like his game is that right center field gap. Right field.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: He can let the ball travel better than than most
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: you know, in in the major leagues. Let that ball
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: travel except what's the catcher for the Blue Jays Boom?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: What's his name? It?
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: What on il now?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: But what's the guy that hit the double off of
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: school yesterday?
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: That was Kirk right and then he left the game
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: after that.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm saying to be able to you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: that right field, right center field approach. It was great
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: to see, man that I think he's gonna get locked
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: in right now after this game, I mean off off shureser.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That's a confidence builder. And not only that, to see
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: you know that he's one of those leaders in that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: clubhouse right like he's a guy that when he's going
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: this team is going absolutely.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: We mentioned him a couple of times here, and we're
• 19:30
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• 20:42
  Speaker 1: guys watching on YouTube. You see right above my head
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's a signed Max Scherzer photograph. I got him in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: my office here Christmas gift years ago. And he was
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch back in the day,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and just as a fan of baseball, he was a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch today. He went seven, He
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: gave up that three run bomb to Glabor. Other than
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that of his lights out eleven k's, he looked like, uh,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he looked like classic Max. I don't want to say
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: old Max, but he looked like classic Max. And uh,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and so I wanted I wanted to know what it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: like to be his teammates.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I'll just give the floor to you. Austin. You you
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: put you play with him.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: You guys were you know, technically came to the organization
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: literally at the same time on the same day. Uh so,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: what's it like being Max Erzer's teammate?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Max mad Max? You know that it's different everybody, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: they see the different color eyes they see, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: just just the image of him. I think you're just
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: like he had two different eyes. That's different. I never
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: seen that. That's that's a little that's a little off.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: So you you're like, he's a little off. He's a
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: little off too, by the way, He's not just just
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a normal chat but like on field Max and off
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: field Max is two completely different dudes. Even though off
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the field Max is still he off, you know, he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: all the way on, but you know, on Phil Max
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: is just a different bird man. I remember, I don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: even think this was like I don't want to say
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: it's like a milestone game for him or anything, but
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: this just speaks to you know, his intensity and just
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you know, out locked in he is during the game.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I remember he had like a good inning. I definitely
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: can't remember the type of ending. I just remember what
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: happened following that that inning. I remember we got to
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: the top step, like I ran in. I ran in
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: fast because I wanted to meet him at that top
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: step to let him know how good he did. Right,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: And I look at him, I'm like that boy Max
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: and I hit him on his chest and he's like yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and he hit me. I was like, damn, that's kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: of hard. Yeah, boy, I hit a partner and then yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: hit me back, Like I said, yo, right now, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: had to make a decision like do I do I
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: hit him back because that lick he just gave me
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: is warranted for me to swing. Like now, you know
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: when he was little and you're getting a little slap
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: box and you kind of slap and somebody hit you good,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: and then you hit them good hit you back, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: then it's like it turned into knuckles. Now, Like I
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: was like, no, this dude, but I didn't know. I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: was like, should I give him that because he needs it?
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Like it's almost like he needed that, like he needed
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: me to hit him back. Part, Like yeah, so I
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: can use it, you know. And I was looking at
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: his eyes and they were all wide and you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you got the white eye and the brown eye, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I'm good. I'm gonna stop right there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: We got it. We got it in. I owe him
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a lick though, because the lick that I was giving
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: him wasn't like a mom was like yeah that a boy,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and he was like yeah boe And I was like, oh,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: that's a tough one. So I gave him one back,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you know, like yeah, boy, let's go. And then he
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: bo like, yo, I'm telling you, good job. This ain't
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: a fight, you know, it's just good job, Max, good job.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And so that speaks his intensity though, like he was
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: that locked in. I could have did that to anybody
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: else and they probably just you know, just took it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: But Max was like, now bring it. Bring that. You
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: see it from him that every time he pitched. I'm
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: like this dude, still he's the same guy. Like it
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: looks like he's just like he just you know, like
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: he doesn't I don't care if I hit you in
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the neck or I you know, I paint one down
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: in a way like I just he has this intensity
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: about it and I love it. Man a as a
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: you know, playing behind him, you love that, bro, Like
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: you love to see the intensity from your starting picture,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: our pictures in general, Like I loved it. I love
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: to see when guys like cared about their jobs. They
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: cared that they walked the guy, you know what I'm saying,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: walk the bases loaded, or walked the first hitter, Like
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I like that kept me engaged. When you're out there,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you don't care, you know, it's it's hard to be engaged,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: but when guys are, when when your pictures are engaged,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: like a Max Shirtser, Man, it was fun, dude, it
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: was fun to play behind that because you knew every
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: every single game he pitched, you knew that he was
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: gonna give it his all, man. And it's it's it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: incredible to see him.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: What is he forty one turned forty one today, won.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Bro and still out there like being be like contributing
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to a to a major league team. It just speaks
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the volume the type of pitcher he is, and then
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: the preparation that he really puts into his craft. Man,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: it's it's unbelievable.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Kind of overlooked. Not I don't know if it overlooks
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: you're watching the game, Like Tier scored three off Max,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: and they ended up having a great day. But other
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: than one inning, Max sures Or was perfect. It was
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: it was actually vintage Max. That's how he's had in
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: a while.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Was like eleven. K's right still in there, Levin ks Bro,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: That's that's.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Still in there?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Is there?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Okase, everybody's curious, Austin is a career one for nine
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: against Max sures Or.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yo, hold up, hold on up, you get that. That's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the official you know, on record. Let's talk about the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: off record at bats me and we had to. Hey,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I placed him in the Arizona Fall League and I
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: got him too. Yeah, do show up nobody watching that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I got Max twice. Wow.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: The resume is a little bit longer than just what
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you find in Baseball Reference, I imagine. Yeah, especially spring
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: training and y VP and yeah and all that stuff.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's it's it's still fun to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: watch him. Still still a good, you know, memory of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a fun era of Tigers baseball, and which is why
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: we like doing this with you, Austin. It's uh, calls
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: back to a fun memory of of Tigers baseball. Real quick, Cody,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: wrap up a couple of things, you know, tie some
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: knots here. Tigers are giving Melton start number two on
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: on on Monday, Casey Miser calling it Nie soreness.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Uh. You know, I don't want.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Specially about injuries, but it seems like everyone's theory he is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Good to go, but with whatever knee stiffness he encountered it,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: it basically just pushed all his routines back to day.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: So he's going back to day in the rotation. Told
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: that the knees it is all good.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Did you get a chance to talk to Meltin at all? Uh?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Uh no, I'll be honest, because he he was not
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: in Big league spring training and then he debuted in
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: what Pittsburgh. I wasn't on that road trip, and then
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: he just kind of appeared, and I was like, wait,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know this guy, like I don't. I've never
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: met him in my life, and I guess I probably
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: should have like introduced myself and made some awkward small
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: talk or something. But I still haven't ever talked to
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Trent Meltin, so I will. I will change that as
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: soon as tomorrow.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: What about any uh any news?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: We haven't really talked trade deadline, so I don't want
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to go through an episode without talking about.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: The Hey, that's what everyone's focused on this time of year.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: As of the time we record this, it's pretty quiet
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: and Tiger Land. You're not seeing much out there. Regarding
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: the Tigers, I still believe that the bullpen is probably
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: their area of focus. I think that's the question, like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: who are they actually after? Is this stuff going to
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: go down to the deadline? You know, I think they're
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: gonna get two relievers. If it were me, I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: they should go get one real dude, a Ryan Helsley type,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: and then if you want one of your projects, one
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: of these lesser known guys, who I'm not saying that
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: would be a bad pitcher, you know, maybe get one
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: of those guys too, someone a little off the radar
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: that maybe we can't think of right now off the
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: top of our head. But I think I think there's
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: a case to get one legit swinging miss proven leverage experience,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: bullpen arm. We've talked about the Tigers aren't going to
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: be aggressive, They're not gonna make a huge splash. But
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: I think that maybe the litmus for like how real
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: they're being at the deadline is is it gonna be
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: two kind of cute acquisitions or is there going to
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: be at least one one guy that you really feel
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: good about?
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Cody? I mean, okay, so you know you're saying that
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you're talking about from a picture standboy, but but what
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: about from an offensive standpoint? Do you think they go
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: get a solid, solid bat? I don't know. I went
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: back and forth with this because I'm like, man, you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: because I know they got a lot of future pieces
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that can you know that that you know a lot
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: of people are really excited about, you know what I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Like they got some prospects, you know what I mean,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: they gonna have to give somebody up. They don't have
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: to give somebody up to get like a solid, a
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: solid dude in there, you know what I mean? What
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: do you think about that? You think that did they
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: take a little splash in that?
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I'm not counting on it. Kieran and I have talked
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: a lot about this, talking about going back and forth
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: on it. Yeah, welcome to the club there. Because I
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: think it's a hard question to answer. Right, They're not
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: trading any of their big prospects. I think we can
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: feel pretty confident about that. The question is like, will
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: they get something you know what's the answer, there's actually not.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: It's not like there's a Wan Soto on the trademarket
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: this year. There's Suarez, who we've talked about. My read
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: feels unlikely unless that's just being undersold. And then you
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: look at, okay, well, is there another bat that fits
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: some of the platoon names I mentioned Randall Gritchick A
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: mod Rosario, they're already gone. Is there another player who
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: fits their construction? Because I think they want to keep
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: their roster versatile, but like, I think there's a case
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: that you can strengthen this offense without giving up too much.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Look at some of these deals that have already gone down.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: The returns have not been major, but it's like it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Then it's also like, okay, well, are you willing to
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: give up any asset for just a platoon bat who
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: maybe ends up being better than Jami Jones. And there's
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: another thought too, like what if can you add a
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: bad as insurance for Hobby or Meadows if they don't
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: pick it up, someone who can play one of those
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: positions or lighten the load on Like, I don't know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: I think I think it's a really hard one. I'm
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: not my read it's not that they are going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: get a bad or not get bad. I think I
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: think maybe it's fifty to fifty and I think it
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: really is going to have to be the right player
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: for the right price. I'll be fascinated to see what
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: they actually do there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: What about you know, what about a Nolan Ooh, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: don't know, you I don't know. I'm just saying, I
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: just I just thought about this, and I mean, he
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: has he has you know, he has constructed his contract
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: right to where he has you know, he has no
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: trade right But I mean you got a veteran leader
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: right there, right, you know, a solid you know, he
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: can still play a solid third base. And that's been
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: kind of the you know, the thing with the Tigers
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and moving a lot of people around. I think there's
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: still enough left in the back and I think this,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, it possibly could be a you know, uh,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you know, ignition for you know, for the rest of
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: his you know, career. I don't know, you know, put
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: him on a team like that with the Tigers. You
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: got a lot of young dudes, you know, you got
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: some veteran guys there, and I don't know why that
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: just kind of that kind of jumped to my brain that,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you know, not too long ago, I was looking what
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: about Nkland though, like, you know, that'd be a sold
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  Speaker 3: little third base. I mean, you won't have to give
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  Speaker 3: up that much. You know, the Tigers are I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if they would love it, but I think that
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  Speaker 3: as far as you know, having to solidified everyday. Third
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  Speaker 3: basement and I don't even know if he plays there
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  Speaker 3: every day or if he's going to d h you know,
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  Speaker 3: something to take a little load off those legs a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. But I mean, hey, I think he still
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: has enough left in the tank. It's just something to
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, take a little gander at.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing wrong with adding to your defense.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: We talk about pitching, we talk about you know, talk
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  Speaker 1: about hitters, but there's actually nothing wrong with getting better
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  Speaker 1: defensively easier. And I think that's part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: why the Yankees win got McMahon is because you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's some contractual stuff there and price point and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. But at the same but at the same time,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like they were like, okay, well we're gonna get a
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: top was it like top ten? I think Third Basement,
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  Speaker 1: based on you know, some metrics or swore as who
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: is one of the worst again according to some metrics.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's a way to get like solidify
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  Speaker 1: your defense in whatever position. I don't think you should
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: turn a blind eye to that possibility, just speaking.
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  Speaker 5: Generally, Yeah, I mean I think with that or not.
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  Speaker 5: There a few key factors. One, he didn't seem to
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: want to come to Detroit this winner, and he knicked
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: the deal to Houston looking like his mistake on maybe
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: both of those frunts. I'm not saying that the Tigers
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: were ever close, but like he was very picky about
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: where he wanted to go, and look at you now, yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: he changed his mind with the team want him at
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: this point to he's under team control for two additional seasons,
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  Speaker 5: which you could view as a good thing, Hey we
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: get this guy for next year, or he could view
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: as like a bad thing because you're not as flexible
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: with what you can do going forward. And then it's
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: like he's gonna make twenty twenty twenty seven million next year?
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Are the Cardinals? How much are that? Are they gonna eat?
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: And then the third like, even though he's a legit
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: everyday third baseman, just like the swar As conversation, do
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: you want to limit your whole versatility? Mix and match, YadA, YadA.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: For Nolan Arnado, is he good enough to justify that?
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: I don't have the answer that question, but I think
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: those are all the factors at play. And then when
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: I think about that, I'm like, man, that's a lot
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: of factors. Yeah, unless they just love love him. Yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: it's hard to kind of see it happening.
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  Speaker 3: Chaos a little bit. There you go, you're out there, you.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Know, you're really in the media now in there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in there, man, I'm in the group. I get
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: to I get to get in the group and I'll
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: talk about man, yeah, I got.
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  Speaker 1: Fun when everything is just a possibility and everything's in
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  Speaker 1: front of you and it's like, hey.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Could this work?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And then when one of the one of those ideas
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: that comes through or correct, you're like, yeah, I.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Got it, yeah, yeah, I know, well yeah I did that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, of course, Nolan, that was the key, that
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: was the key to it, right, Yeah, all of that I.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Knew exactly exactly, all right.
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