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The Bolt Report | 15 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Kids is the report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson. Coming up tonight. The New South Wales Greens
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  Speaker 2: accused of using the October seven Hamas attack on Israel
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  Speaker 2: to raise party donations, and the court ruling that sent
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  Speaker 2: shockwaves through the Victorian police force. Officers can no longer
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  Speaker 2: sue the state for injury sustained on the job. Old
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  Speaker 2: to be discussing those stories and more with my panelists,
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  Speaker 2: former New South Wales Treasurer Michael Costa and columnist at
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  Speaker 2: the Australian Gema Tournini. Also coming up tonight. Do we
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  Speaker 2: need to get over Fraser Island being renamed? That's what
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  Speaker 2: an indigenous elder has said in response to a new
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  Speaker 2: petition calling for a return to the old name. And
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  Speaker 2: more woke madness from the UK as a Labor MP
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  Speaker 2: calls for the removal of English flags, aiming their exclusionary.
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  Speaker 2: I'll explore those issues with Rowan Dean shortly, but first,
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  Speaker 2: Jacinta Allen has insisted that Melbourne is safe. She said this,
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  Speaker 2: mind you, just hours after heavily armed police were seen
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  Speaker 2: sprinting through the CBD chasing a man appearing to waive
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  Speaker 2: a gun in broad daylight. But don't panic. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a machete this time, so by Victorian standards, well that's progress.
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  Speaker 2: Facing the press, the premiere announced, with the calm authority
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  Speaker 2: of someone who hasn't caught a tram in ten years.
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne CBD is safe again. I wish to reiterate that
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  Speaker 3: the Melbourne CBD is safe.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the Melbourne CBD is safe, because nothing says
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  Speaker 2: safe quite like a midday man hunt involving a bloke
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  Speaker 2: appearing to brandish a firearmy. Federation Square asked whether she
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  Speaker 2: understood why some Victorians didn't feel safe in the CBD.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what she said.
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  Speaker 3: I can understand for those who are in the area
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  Speaker 3: this morning, it would have been a concern.
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  Speaker 2: It a concern, not terrifying, not chaotic, just you know, concern,
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  Speaker 2: kind of like running out of almond to milk. But
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  Speaker 2: it was this quote that stood out to me.
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  Speaker 3: If I do understand though, too, that when incidences do occur,
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  Speaker 3: that it would be incredibly distressing, incredibly distressing to either
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  Speaker 3: witness those sorts of incidences or indeed have had them
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  Speaker 3: happen to you more.
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  Speaker 2: Directly, incidences those sorts of incidence as nothing captures the
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  Speaker 2: spirit of modern political leadership like reducing an alleged gunman
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  Speaker 2: in the city center to an incident. The Premier speaks
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  Speaker 2: as though she's describing a dropped ice cream, not armed
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  Speaker 2: chaos in the middle of Melbourne. In fairness, though, what
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  Speaker 2: the Premier calls an incident Victorians usually call Tuesday. So
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  Speaker 2: there's that Melbourne is safe as long as you ignore them.
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  Speaker 2: A chetry fights, the street rules and the armed chases
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  Speaker 2: through the CBD. But hey, if you shot at or
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  Speaker 2: caught in a crossfire, just remember it's not a crime scene,
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  Speaker 2: it's an incident. And the Premier understands how distressing that
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  Speaker 2: might be for you. Speaking of distressing incidents, there was
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  Speaker 2: a massive brawl at a Melbourne shopping center at the
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  Speaker 2: weekend involving gangs of young people armed with machetes. Shoppers
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  Speaker 2: at broad Meadows were so terrified they locked themselves inside
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  Speaker 2: a store as people clashed with machetes right outside. But
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  Speaker 2: according to Jacinta Alan, the machete brawl was just more
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  Speaker 2: proof that her machete band was working.
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  Speaker 3: We have already moved to increase Victoria polices, stop and
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  Speaker 3: search powers when it comes to people's possession of dangerous
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  Speaker 3: weapons like this, and that is working.
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  Speaker 2: We're the first.
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  Speaker 3: State to bring about the machete ban, and that too
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  Speaker 3: is working.
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  Speaker 4: You heard her.
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  Speaker 2: The machete ban is working. Aside from all the machetey
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  Speaker 2: owning young people waving around machetes. I wish someone could
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  Speaker 2: measure justinto Allan's nose before she starts talking, and again
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  Speaker 2: when she's done. But I digress. Demanding victorians ignore their
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  Speaker 2: own eyes is how Jacinta Allen now governs. After every
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  Speaker 2: machete attack, she fronts the media to insist that her
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  Speaker 2: machete ban, along with its associated machete amnesty bins, is working.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and don't mind the corpses. Seriously have a listened
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  Speaker 2: to Cinta Allen two weeks ago, literally stepping over a
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  Speaker 2: body to insist her policies were working.
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  Speaker 3: We're seeing measures like this work. But I will say
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  Speaker 3: that the loss of another young life on the weekend
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  Speaker 3: as a result of knife crime, my thoughts are with
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  Speaker 3: the family of that young man who's lost his life.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, the machete ban is working, aside from the people
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  Speaker 2: stabbed to death by machetes. Obviously, back in July when
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  Speaker 2: a man lost his hand in the machete attack, Justinta
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  Speaker 2: Alan explained the man's missing limb demonstrated why her ban
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  Speaker 2: on machetes was so important, and that.
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  Speaker 3: Is why the ban on machetes is just so important.
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  Speaker 3: I fucking pause for a moment and extend my thoughts
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  Speaker 3: to the victim and their family, who was a horrific
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  Speaker 3: experience and I wish, you know, their thoughts should be
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  Speaker 3: with them.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like every machete attack in Victoria is proof
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  Speaker 2: that Justinto Allen's ban on machetes is working. In Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: being gas lip by the premiere is almost as common
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  Speaker 2: as being threatened with machetes. Opposition leader Susan Lee said
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  Speaker 2: today what we all know to be true.
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  Speaker 4: Melbourne has gone from the most livable city to the
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  Speaker 4: crime capital of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh, and here's the Victorian Premier responded.
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  Speaker 3: That's just purely politics, right. We all remember when the
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  Speaker 3: previous leader of the opposition, when he was a minister,
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  Speaker 3: he came to town making some of the most outrageous
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  Speaker 3: claims about Melbourne and safety issues in Melbourne. So we're
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  Speaker 3: seeing from the current leader of the opposition that she's
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  Speaker 3: following this same anti Victorian pattern of behavior.
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  Speaker 2: If you dare to notice Victoria's crime crisis, you're anti Victorian.
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  Speaker 2: Just Inta Allen's first ploy is to demand that you
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  Speaker 2: don't believe your lying eyes. But if you insist on
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  Speaker 2: believing your own eyes, she then insists you're a terrible person.
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  Speaker 2: This is the way in which Jacinta Allen argues, whatever
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  Speaker 2: the issue, no matter the topic, she's perfected the sneering demeanor,
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  Speaker 2: where she pretends that anyone who dares to believe their
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  Speaker 2: own eyes rather than her spin is just a contemptible person.
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  Speaker 2: For example, the Victorian liberals announced they would scrap the
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  Speaker 2: controversial Treaty legislation if elected, he is justinto Allen's response.
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  Speaker 3: Cutting treaty tells Victorians everything they need to know about
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  Speaker 3: this divisive liberal party outfit here in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Calling your opponent divisive is not an argument. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a slur. Any schooyard teenager can do it. But moreover,
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  Speaker 2: it's a ridiculous slur just sent to. Allen insists that
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  Speaker 2: if her opponents don't approve of dividing Victorians by race,
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  Speaker 2: then they are divisive. George Orwell would blush. She just
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  Speaker 2: hopes no one thinks hard enough about anything she says
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  Speaker 2: to realize she's making no sense. And then well then
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  Speaker 2: she just went full drama teacher.
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  Speaker 3: I want to tear people down and continue this politics,
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  Speaker 3: the base politics of division. The liberals will cut treaty,
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  Speaker 3: will tear down, tear down and rip apart the future
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  Speaker 3: of first people's families in this state. And I'm determined
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  Speaker 3: to stand in the way, every step of the way
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  Speaker 3: of this divisive behavior from the Victorian Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 2: If Victoria doesn't have a treaty, Aboriginal families will be
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  Speaker 2: ripped apart. I'm surprised she didn't faint onto a couch.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been a nice touch. I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: anyone falls for this confected outrage and overblown waffle. But
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  Speaker 2: that's the Jacinta Allan method turn political disagreement into moral heresy.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same script she used today when challenged about
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  Speaker 2: gender laws allowing schools to socially transition children without parental consent.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to what she says, and then sit back and
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  Speaker 2: admire her well practiced, highly theatrical facial expressions feigning disgust
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  Speaker 2: that a journalist had the temerity to even question her.
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  Speaker 3: We know the transgender kids are fifteen times more likely
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  Speaker 3: to commit suicide, so I would hope Rachel. I would
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  Speaker 3: hope Rachel.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're going to.
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  Speaker 3: Dispute the higher rates of suicide amongst transgender kids.
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  Speaker 2: So if you question the premier's policy, you're complicit in
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  Speaker 2: child suicide. That's not debate, that's moral blackmail in a pantsuit.
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  Speaker 2: And if you question her on her claims, well, you're
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  Speaker 2: deeply irresponsible.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to engage with you in a debate
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  Speaker 3: about the different what is the different levels of the
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  Speaker 3: rate of suicide amongst transgender kid I'm just not that
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  Speaker 3: is That is just so deeply irresponsible.
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  Speaker 2: This is how Jacinta Allen governs Victoria, with a straight
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  Speaker 2: face and crooked logic. She looks you dead in the
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  Speaker 2: eye and insists that up is down, that chaos is calm,
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  Speaker 2: and that machete attacks prove the machete ban is working.
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  Speaker 2: And if you dare to trust your own eyes sight
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  Speaker 2: over her spin, well she'll brand you as cruel, divisive,
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  Speaker 2: or just plain anti Victorian. Welcome to Melbourne, the safe
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  Speaker 2: city where the ban on truth is far more effective
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  Speaker 2: than the ban on machetes and the premier's only weapon
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  Speaker 2: is gaslight. Well, Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi will meet Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump next Monday. Can you guess what might be on
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  Speaker 2: the agenda? Well, if you believe Defense Industry Minister Pat Conroy,
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  Speaker 2: and bless you if you do, the pair will be
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  Speaker 2: having a free ranging discussion about being a good global citizen.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not going to get ahead of that and
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  Speaker 1: predict what the two leaders will discuss. That's for them,
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  Speaker 1: But I'm expecting a very free ranging discussion about all
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  Speaker 1: the challenges that face the world in the role of
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  Speaker 1: both Australia United States and being good global citizens and
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  Speaker 1: resolving them.
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  Speaker 2: Two thoughts on that. First, I think most Australians would
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  Speaker 2: despare hearing our government excited to talk to Trump about
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  Speaker 2: how we can be a good global citizen rather than
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  Speaker 2: about Australia's national interest. Second, Trump doesn't do free ranging.
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  Speaker 2: He does what's in it for America. If Elbow wanders
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  Speaker 2: into that meeting armed with nothing but his good global
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  Speaker 2: citizen badge and a lecture on climate change, well he's
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  Speaker 2: not going to get a chat. He's going to get
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  Speaker 2: a masterclass in reality. Just on that. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: I'll complain if that happens. Joining me now is former
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales Treasurer Michael Costa and Jemmy Toonnini from
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  Speaker 2: GT Communications. Welcome to you both. Michael, is pat Conroy
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  Speaker 2: really that silly or is he just pretending to be?
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  Speaker 6: Yes?
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  Speaker 7: Is the answer to that question. He is, That's silly.
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  Speaker 7: That's a ridiculous comment. Look, I mean, the agenda has
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  Speaker 7: only two objectives in my mind, and then Orcas and
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  Speaker 7: the tariffs. And if you can't come out of that
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  Speaker 7: with some clarity on that, you know he's not done
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  Speaker 7: the right thing by Australia. Let's be clear here. Currently
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  Speaker 7: Trump is the alpha leader of the world, and you've
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  Speaker 7: got a bunch of leaders that were once very strong
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  Speaker 7: allies of the US, but over Palestine they've shown their weakness.
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  Speaker 7: And the people I'm talking about, of course, are so Starmer,
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  Speaker 7: Karni and Macron, and really he won't have any time
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  Speaker 7: to speak to them. The way he treated Starmer shows that.
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  Speaker 7: I think star will probably get a better hearing the
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  Speaker 7: other day than Albo will get. So the object is
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  Speaker 7: to come out with some Marcus support and some clarity
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  Speaker 7: on tariffs. I think that's about the best we can get.
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  Speaker 2: Jemma, just on being a good global citizen, which Pat
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  Speaker 2: Conroy is very concerned about. Can you explain to me
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  Speaker 2: what that even means.
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  Speaker 4: I guess it depends on your political paradigm. I think
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  Speaker 4: for the Australian government, it's proven to me not actually
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  Speaker 4: taking a position that requires any cost or anything other
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  Speaker 4: than virtue signaling from the safety of Canberra on the
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  Speaker 4: other side of the world. I don't believe that this
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a good meeting for mister Albanezi.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe look for this way. If the best
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  Speaker 4: indication of future behavior is past behavior, President Trump doesn't
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  Speaker 4: suffer fools, and as you rightly pointed out, he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: do sort of free wheeling, free ranging what's in it
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  Speaker 4: for America? And I think my mind goes back, James
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  Speaker 4: to that media call that he did with Kiirs Starmer
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  Speaker 4: in the early days, where he just absolutely teed off
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  Speaker 4: on what a rubbish mer Sadiq Khan was, and Kirs
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  Speaker 4: Starmer interrupted him and said, oh, well, hang on, hang
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  Speaker 4: about maybe he's a good friend of mine, and Trump said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't care. He's still a rubbish, Mayor. I just
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  Speaker 4: don't think. I suspect there might be a bit of
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  Speaker 4: naivety about what Australia can expect and how mister Alberini
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  Speaker 4: expects to be treated, as you know, the leader of
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  Speaker 4: a country that was once one of America's most staunch
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  Speaker 4: allies and has been very limp wristed in the last
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  Speaker 4: few years in relation to not only our national security
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  Speaker 4: but the security of the Middle East. And it's also
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  Speaker 4: will be interesting to me, James, to see what, if
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  Speaker 4: anything mister Trump has to say about the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 4: and Foreign mens view that they had a role to
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  Speaker 4: play in securing the ceasefire deal in Gaza, which is
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  Speaker 4: as the subject of fantasy at best.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Jemma, since you raised that issue, let's have listened
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  Speaker 2: to what our defense industry in the Minister had to
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  Speaker 2: say on Trump's peace deal in Garza. Have Alism.
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  Speaker 1: We obviously welcome the ceasefire and we applaud the efforts
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  Speaker 1: of President Trump and everyone else involved to secure it. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: it's a very testing process and we just urge all
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  Speaker 1: parties to exercise restraint and to abide by the terms
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  Speaker 1: of the cease fire. I think that's the interests of
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  Speaker 1: every partner in the Middle East and quite frankly, the
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  Speaker 1: whole world. And so we're just hoping and urging everyone
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  Speaker 1: to follow the processes agreed to, because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: in everyone's interests for that cease fire to continue on
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  Speaker 1: the path to a permanent piece that includes a two
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  Speaker 1: state solution that respects secure borders for both Palestine and Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Michael cost of these benign statements just go to reinforce
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  Speaker 2: how irrelevant the Albaneze government is to what's happening in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East, don't.
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  Speaker 7: They Absolutely that was a dopey response. Of course, there
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  Speaker 7: is a peace process, but that police process has nothing
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  Speaker 7: to do with all of those clowns that went supported
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  Speaker 7: a recognition of Palestine in the UN. The fact of
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  Speaker 7: the matter is that this is going to be a
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  Speaker 7: difficult process, and I think the minister doesn't understand that
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  Speaker 7: obviously from his comments. We have to disarm hummus. That's
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  Speaker 7: part of the arrangements that will ensure the success of this.
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  Speaker 7: And Trump was very clear today if they don't hand
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  Speaker 7: laid down their weapons, He's going to break out hell,
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  Speaker 7: as he said, And I think that's really the position
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  Speaker 7: we're in the million mouthed comments like that you just
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  Speaker 7: heard just shows that there's no moral clarity with this
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  Speaker 7: government on this issue.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's a great point because I noticed, Michael, you
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  Speaker 2: used the word Hamas. But Pat Conroy he talked about
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  Speaker 2: urging all parties to do the right thing, by which Geni,
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  Speaker 2: I guess he's talking about a liberal democracy Israel and
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  Speaker 2: the terrorist group Hamas. All parties have Our government ministers
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  Speaker 2: learned nothing that they still can't help but speak of
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  Speaker 2: these two different entities as moral equivalents.
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  Speaker 4: So one of the things I learned early on, and
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  Speaker 4: as you know, James, I went to the war zone
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  Speaker 4: in December last year. I was in the Gaza envelope.
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  Speaker 4: I went to two of the Kibutzim. I went to
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  Speaker 4: the Novasde. I have met with hostages who have been
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  Speaker 4: returned from Gaza and survivors of that festival. Our federal
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  Speaker 4: government did not, the former Attorney General did late in
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  Speaker 4: the peace after policy was formed. But the critical part
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  Speaker 4: of this is I wonder I have formed a view
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  Speaker 4: that you know, Penny One, when she went to the
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  Speaker 4: Middle East not long after the war started, didn't go
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  Speaker 4: to Israel's murdering size of the killing field. Imagine, imagine
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  Speaker 4: having the position that this government still does, having been
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  Speaker 4: down there, having actually met face to face on the
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  Speaker 4: ground and seen with their own eyes what went on
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  Speaker 4: down there. This government is so disconnected from reality they
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  Speaker 4: do not have a concept of the fact that this
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  Speaker 4: liberal democracy, this imperfect but liberal free democracy in the
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  Speaker 4: Middle East, is surrounded by people whose identity is linked
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  Speaker 4: to the destruction of the Jewish race. It's not conceptually different,
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  Speaker 4: difficult to understand unless you are captured by ideology. I've
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  Speaker 4: sat in a bombshelter two nights in a row while
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  Speaker 4: missiles are rained down from the Huti, who are thousands
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  Speaker 4: of kilometers a way. They didn't even share a border
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  Speaker 4: with Israel Iranian proxies. I say all of this to
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  Speaker 4: say that the federal government's position on the Middle East
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  Speaker 4: has been disconnected from reality. They've been able to use
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  Speaker 4: words like, oh, you know, diplomacy and de escalation. They
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  Speaker 4: mean nothing in reality. And if they honestly think deploy
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  Speaker 4: omas and de escalation had anything to do with those
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  Speaker 4: twenty people coming home safe, they're insane. Because we know
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  Speaker 4: that Hamas has already broken the terms of the ceasefire
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  Speaker 4: because it hasn't handed back the bodies of the decease
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  Speaker 4: it started rounding up Palestinians and executing them in the streets.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what it's going to take for this
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  Speaker 4: government to come face to face with its own behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Just really quickly before we go to a break, speaking
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  Speaker 2: of people who learn nothing. The Greens in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales have been accused of using the October seven Hamas
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  Speaker 2: attack to raise money for the party. They sent them
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  Speaker 2: email to supporters coinciding with the second anniversary of Hamas attack,
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  Speaker 2: asking people to donate to help end the occupation and
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  Speaker 2: stand with Palestine. The email directs readers to a website
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  Speaker 2: where they can donate, but the money goes into Greens
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  Speaker 2: party coffers Michael, just in a few moments, does it
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  Speaker 2: surprise you to see the Greens appearing to manipulate people's
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  Speaker 2: distress over Gaza for their own fundraising.
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  Speaker 7: The Greens are morally bankrupt like that for a long time.
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  Speaker 7: They see a bloody terrorist event on October seven as
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  Speaker 7: an opportunity to spread their poisonous ideology. We used to
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  Speaker 7: joke about the Greens being green on the outside and
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  Speaker 7: red on the middle, that green is more and more
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  Speaker 7: hummusk green rather than the environmental.
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  Speaker 2: It would seem that way. Michael Costa, Jemmytonnini, thanks so
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  Speaker 2: much for joining me when you go to a break,
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  Speaker 2: but when we come back. A UK Oxford student investigated
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  Speaker 2: for a sickening anti Zionist chant plus an Aboriginal elder
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  Speaker 2: has told people to get over it when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to Fraser Island's name change. Rowan Dene's up in a moment.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Australians who participated in Gretaitunberg's Flertility Garza have spoken about
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  Speaker 2: their harrowing ordeal. They've described the horrific conditions they were
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: forced to endure in an Israeli prison and have complained
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  Speaker 2: that they had to pay their own way home is
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  Speaker 2: Juliet Lamont.
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  Speaker 8: Medication was restricted food and water for the sales of
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  Speaker 8: six meters by three and a half. I walked it out.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: Nobody was given any menstrual napkins, and we were routine
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  Speaker 8: lye woken up in the middle of the night with
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: huge blasting lights with Alsatians and twenty men in riot gear.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: And this went on and on and on.
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  Speaker 2: And here I was thinking, people who sail into an
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  Speaker 2: active war zone despite repeated warnings not to do so,
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  Speaker 2: would be put up at the Sheraton. Here's another protest,
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  Speaker 2: apparently upset that Australian taxpayers didn't pay for his flights home.
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  Speaker 6: Many of us spent days on Skyscanner trying to get
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: flights home. Myself, I flew Imam Kuwait, Kuwait, Dubai, Dubai, China, China,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Sydney on a very expensive flight that I've had to
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: pay for myself to get home.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Sky News host Rowan Dean. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: want to move on to some other topics, but first
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  Speaker 2: I got to get your reaction. Can you believe these guys?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the torture and going on and on and on
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  Speaker 5: is definitely a case of a taste of their own medicine.
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  Speaker 5: The torture for the last couple of years for many
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: of us has been listening to Greta Tunberg and a
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: clown show wandering around the Mediterranean pretending that they have
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: something to offer to world geopolitics. And as for that character,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: as you say, maybe he shouldn't have bothered because the
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: world is in no better shape for their efforts. In fact,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: the lives of the hostages and the lives of many
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Palestinians at the mercy of Hamas would be in worse
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: shape thanks to their efforts, because, along with Penny Wang
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: and Anthony Albanisi, all that Tunberg and those clowns managed
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: to do was drag out the process that finished so
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: brilliantly the other evening. But those people actually prolonged Hamas's
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: sense that they could actually win this thing by eking
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: out the agony. You know, they should have learned their lesson.
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  Speaker 5: They won't learn their lesson, no doubt. Next time there's
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: some other place that they can get some media attention,
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  Speaker 5: they'll do so. But seriously, I think the world's had
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: enough of Thunberg and her clowns.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Have a listen to this pro Palestine protest being investigated
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: by UK police after chanting put the Zios in the ground.
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  Speaker 2: His name is Samuel Williams. He's reportedly a student at
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Oxford where he studies politics, philosophy and economics.
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  Speaker 7: Here he is Garza, Garza, make us proud, put the
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  Speaker 7: Zios in the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Garza, Garza Makers.
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  Speaker 7: Makers Makers crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Well In a couple of days after the event. Police
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  Speaker 2: have said they're investigating and the university will look into it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think someone chanting for I don't know, Muslims
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  Speaker 2: to be put in the ground would make it to
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day or even the end of
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  Speaker 2: the street without being charged.
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  Speaker 5: No, of course not. And this is just a sign James,
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  Speaker 5: of how far Western civilization, in particular one of the
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: leading lights of Western civilization, Britain, has fallen to the
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: leftist march through the Long March for the institutions Oxford, James.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Oxford University is the oldest university in English speaking world.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: It's probably the second oldest university in the world. There
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: were students there thirty years after the Battle of Hastings
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: and the Norman Conquest. That's how old that university is.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: You think of Brideshead revisited, Canterbury Tales. Oxford University features
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: in all of those great works of literature. And here
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: we have it's called the humanities, James, the subjects that
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: aren't necessarily you know, medicine and the ones that actually
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: mean something, engineering and so on. The humanities have to
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: be churning out the most inhumane and vile individuals, not
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: only from Oxford, but we've seen two cases recently from Oxford.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Not only this character, but we saw the bloke who
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: had the great honor and privilege to debate at Oxford
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk then turned round and mocked and celebrated Charlie
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Kirk's assassination. Now we have this character at the same
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: time that a zios as he calls him. In other words,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: that's just the modern slang for Jews. Jews are being
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: buried in the ground in Gaza, twenty of them released.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: There were many more that were buried there under the
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: most terrific circumstances by Hamas, by Palestinian terrorists who took
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: young kids the same age as that boy with all
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: his privileges at Oxford probably goes to rock concerts at
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Glastonbury and elsewhere, and were Hamas given the opportunity, they
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: would do the same thing at the Glastonbury rock concert
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: and he would be one of those who would find
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: himself in the ground courtesy of the Palestinian terrorists. It
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: is sick what are universities are churning out? James. They
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: are psychopaths, they are sociopaths. The depths of depravity that
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: is our universities is truly shocking. It's truly shocking.
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  Speaker 7: James.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and as I said, he's studying politics philosophy. This
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: is the kind of kid who'll end up, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in some position of leadership in the Western world at
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: some point, presumably God help us. Rowan Dean appreciate your
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: time tonight. I didn't get to the Fraser Island story.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: We might do that tomorrow night, but that's all I've
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: got time for stick around. Coming up now is the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: final episode of our three part documentary Australia History, hosted
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: by former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.