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The Ex-Hurler’s Cancer Con w/ Shea Couleé · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come rob froll scam, Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob froll scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 3: What popa congregation, it's your girl, Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess,
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  Speaker 3: the host of the show all about robbery, fraud and
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  Speaker 3: those who practice it.
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  Speaker 2: Please don't forget this is a comedy show. Yes, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and congregation already know. I'm what.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm excited, I'm elated, I'm thrilled. I'm gonna need
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  Speaker 3: you all to get up out of your seat, stand
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  Speaker 3: up in your car at the red light. Okay, do
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  Speaker 3: a little cat walk for me, because today we have
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  Speaker 3: a drag icon on the show. They are a singer, rapper, actor, podcaster,
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  Speaker 3: and fixture of the Chicago nightlife, saying you've seen them
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  Speaker 3: as the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race All Star season
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  Speaker 3: five and as a finalist on season nine and on
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  Speaker 3: seven in All Stars. Yes, they are celebrated for their
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  Speaker 3: fashion forward editorial looks, advocacy for the lgbt Q, I,
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  Speaker 3: A plus and bipop communities, and for their pioneering work
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  Speaker 3: as the first drag artist in the Marvel Cinematic universe.
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  Speaker 3: I know that's right, Congregation, please welcome Shay Kola to
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, hey girl, so glad to be bad.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad to have your bag.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a minute, I know, I know. And the
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  Speaker 1: scams just keep on scamming.
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  Speaker 2: It's getting worse. Yeah, it's good for me and my business.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we're not running out of a seer anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: But bad for the countries.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, scams are a recession indicator for sure.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, But at the same time, like scams even in
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  Speaker 3: good times or bad times, it's like alcohol consumption where
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  Speaker 3: it's like people drink when they're sad, or they drink
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  Speaker 3: when they're happy.
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  Speaker 2: If they drink it all, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So like people are scamming when times scamming, they're scamming
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  Speaker 3: when time's a bay.
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  Speaker 4: Look in America, it is a country built off of scamming.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Scamming is woven into the fabric of this country. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm just like, there's no way to exist here without
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  Speaker 4: either scamming or being scammed exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we're the product of scams. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And now our history books are like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, black people of they took a little carnival cruise
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  Speaker 3: ship like three years ago, internship and then Martin lu
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  Speaker 3: King came and he was marshing his suits, right, and
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  Speaker 3: then Barack Obama and.
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  Speaker 4: Then ended racism, and it's just been smooth sailing ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so weeet. I have to ask you, Shit, it's
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  Speaker 3: been a minute. What is your relationship with scams? You
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  Speaker 3: love them, you hate them? You've seen some you like,
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  Speaker 3: You've seen some you hate, You had some run on,
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  Speaker 3: you run some. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look like I said, I'm an American, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting scammed every sing gold day. Yeah that I'm
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  Speaker 4: out in these streets now. I love when scamming happens
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  Speaker 4: to people in privilege or the status quo. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, those are great scams. Yeah, Other
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  Speaker 4: scams like you know Ginshaw scamming the elderly, those are
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  Speaker 4: not the scams that I like. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: like that she scammed her own mother like that. That
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  Speaker 4: to me, that is a very specific level of scamming
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  Speaker 4: when you scam your own mama, right because you.
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  Speaker 3: Scammed her once already, you got nine months free rent
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  Speaker 3: and stole all her bodily resources, and you coming for
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  Speaker 3: her again.
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  Speaker 1: Again, came for her retirement.
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  Speaker 4: Literally, was like, Mama, I swear I did not scam
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  Speaker 4: these people. Mom, give me your retirement to fight my
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  Speaker 4: legal battles. Give me all that money, mama, and then
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  Speaker 4: gonna go and be like, yeah, y'all, I did it.
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  Speaker 3: That was the worst part about it. Why would you
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  Speaker 3: sit your mama up like that. That's like having your
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  Speaker 3: parents put your like their house up for your bail
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  Speaker 3: and then running away.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you do that?
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  Speaker 4: It just that to me was really the nail and
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  Speaker 4: the coffin for Ginshaw. I was already like, damn, like
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  Speaker 4: she is really she is really just like a treacherous scammer.
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  Speaker 4: And then when I was just like, you scam the
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  Speaker 4: last scam that she did was on her own mother,
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  Speaker 4: and that's what I was just like, well, damn.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, also, though, is it equality? You said
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  Speaker 2: anybody could get it?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, honestly it is equality. She's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: everybody and everybody little mama who brought me into this
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  Speaker 4: world and raised me, she could get scammed too.
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  Speaker 3: Which is s trifling, But I guess she has a code,
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  Speaker 3: which is no code whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: Right, No, none. She's like, she's like I respect no one.
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  Speaker 3: Which you know that that can be a place in
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  Speaker 3: the world. I don't want that to be our world.
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  Speaker 3: So I absolutely agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, Jinshaw came up in America,
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  Speaker 4: so she was just so like, Oh, this is the
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  Speaker 4: American dream. We have to scam people Like I was
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  Speaker 4: just like going through doing some stuff for taxes, just
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  Speaker 4: like yesterday, and I was just like, oh, yes, this scam.
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  Speaker 4: I said, this scam really annoys me.
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  Speaker 2: You don't like the guessing game.
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  Speaker 3: You don't like you'll guess how much you owe us,
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  Speaker 3: and if you don't send it, we put you in
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  Speaker 3: Wesley snipes.
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  Speaker 4: Jes right, girl, and like, I'm like, actually, y'all owe
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  Speaker 4: me for everything that this administration has done the last year.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I feel like I deserve payment for
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  Speaker 4: my pain and suffering.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, when can we get the American class action
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  Speaker 3: lawsuit where we all just show up to Congress and
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  Speaker 3: the neck brace.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, all of us? Yes, from all the whip last.
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  Speaker 2: January sixth, we all just show up with.
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  Speaker 3: From the whiplash, right from all the heavy compensation.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, I'm gonna start this.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all stay up till three am because I'm gonna start
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  Speaker 3: them as like have you or loved one scammed by
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  Speaker 3: America every day.
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  Speaker 1: A personal bag of chips should not be a dollar.
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  Speaker 2: No, they put more air in it too, the chips and.
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  Speaker 1: Put in there.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what we're getting in that bag of chips,
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  Speaker 4: I kid you not, is probably a third of a
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  Speaker 4: potato and one single Yeah, maybe a fourth, maybe even
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  Speaker 4: a fifth of a potato and one potato one Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so five times of what we're getting in that bag
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  Speaker 4: is about two cents.
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  Speaker 1: Why is this a dollar?
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  Speaker 4: You know what if I were to run on any platform,
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  Speaker 4: mine would be make chips cheap again.
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  Speaker 2: Make chips cheap again. I would vote for that.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty five cents. That's all a bag of personal chips
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  Speaker 4: should cost.
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  Speaker 3: I know, they're like this big and they're full of air, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and so if we're gonna keep them packed with air,
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  Speaker 3: they should be twenty five cents.
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  Speaker 2: See, this is unite the country, hello, Because.
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  Speaker 1: That's still a mark up.
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  Speaker 4: You're still gonna be making money off those ships. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what that's that's you know, I'm sick of Bellion
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  Speaker 4: scammed over my chips too.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a great campaign platform.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, you know something everybody can get behind, Like, how
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  Speaker 3: could you be contentious about that?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: But I'd be surprised because in America, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's somebody be like, my granddaddy loves not having.
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  Speaker 1: Chips, right, his sodium takes too high.
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  Speaker 3: Right, you're trying to kill my grand Dieter.
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  Speaker 1: Well, who did your granddaddy vote for?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know your grandaddy, Okay, we know.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Well, yes, I agree with you on
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  Speaker 3: scamming up and scamming like the systems that are already
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  Speaker 3: scamming us.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what we abdocate for here. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't encourage.
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  Speaker 3: It for legal So if you learn a tip something,
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  Speaker 3: if you allegedly, then.
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  Speaker 4: That's not you know what I mean, that's just playing
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  Speaker 4: the game that you have involuntarily been forced to participate.
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  Speaker 2: In, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Like sometimes people are inspiration for you and they're not
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  Speaker 3: doing crime. Like Elizabeth Holmes loves Steve Josh's turtleneckt you know,
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  Speaker 3: but Steve didn't make her make the tiny thing exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And little miss Anna Delvi, she loves her little angle
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  Speaker 4: bracelet exactly. She was out there on Dancing with the Stars,
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  Speaker 4: So I.
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  Speaker 3: Will never forget that she really had a resurgence she did.
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  Speaker 3: I want to meet her so badly. I was on
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  Speaker 3: Good Morning in America and they were like, who would
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  Speaker 3: you want to meet? And I was like, Michael, I
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  Speaker 3: need to meet Anna. Like I say, I need her
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  Speaker 3: to tap on the ankle basilet to comes see it,
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  Speaker 3: because I just need to.
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  Speaker 2: Be around her. Yeah, I need to know. I just
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  Speaker 2: want to.
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  Speaker 3: Know what she does so that I can like who
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  Speaker 3: she chooses as a target, so I can be.
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  Speaker 2: Less of that in wild.
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  Speaker 4: You know, from what I've seen, it looks like really
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  Speaker 4: rich white men who all deserve to be scammed because
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  Speaker 4: they I know that they all scammed people to get
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  Speaker 4: where they are, So it is.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like their version of paying taxes.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: The hardest thing about the rich white man scam is
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  Speaker 3: that some of it's already baked in. Yeah, it's like
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  Speaker 3: they really didn't have to do much. They were born
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  Speaker 3: looking like that. You got a full head of hair,
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  Speaker 3: I means you got charisma, right, And you know, they
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  Speaker 3: say things and maybe they're not even trying to scam.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes maybe they're just speaking what they would in the world.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I would like all of your money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you agree riot, and people just give it to it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what I do agree. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want my money in my bank account when.
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  Speaker 4: You yeah, no, man, Yeah, there's nothing more dangerous than
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  Speaker 4: a good looking white man with a full head of hair.
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  Speaker 1: They will get, they will get things that they do
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  Speaker 1: not deserve.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever encountered a scam in your own personal live?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: I mean god, I would say probably one of my
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  Speaker 4: favorite scams that I have participated in multiple times would
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  Speaker 4: be uh RuPaul's drag Coon. They put the con in
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  Speaker 4: drag con.
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  Speaker 3: Baby, you get a girl like.
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  Speaker 4: You get there as like a like a queen or
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  Speaker 4: a vendor, and I kid you not. At every single
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  Speaker 4: turn they were like, Oh, you need like a stanchion
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  Speaker 4: for your booth. That's going to be three hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh you.
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  Speaker 4: Need an outlet for power, that's gonna be three hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh, do you need a Wi Fi so that
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  Speaker 4: you can like run your your square at the That's
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  Speaker 4: be two hundred dollars. And you're just like whoa And
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  Speaker 4: they're like, Oh, you're trying to use another device on
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  Speaker 4: the Wi Fi.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be another two hundred dollars like the scamnomics
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  Speaker 1: is that go on?
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  Speaker 5: Good?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, and it turns into like trickle down scamminomics because
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  Speaker 4: then I have to scam the.
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  Speaker 2: Fans, right, you can pass the scammings down to this.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I have to pass a scam down to them.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just like, yeah, you got to pay, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta buy fifty dollars worth of my merchandise to
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  Speaker 4: come and get a picture with me. So then that's
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  Speaker 4: my little scam, right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it forced into that because you already gotta
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  Speaker 3: pay booth fees. Why are you want to breathe air?
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  Speaker 3: That's gonna be another on hundred fifty. We didn't know
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  Speaker 3: you want to breathe when you came.
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  Speaker 4: In here, right, Oh you want to hug that's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be another seventy five, like you know. So I would say, yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's probably one of my favorite scams that I'm participated in.
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  Speaker 3: I would argue that's more of a hustle than a
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  Speaker 3: scam because they're hustling you, and then like you got
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  Speaker 3: to pass a little bit to the hustle down something
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  Speaker 3: you can make your hustle money back. But I think
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  Speaker 3: that for me, the definition of a scam is when
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  Speaker 3: two people enter in agreement and one person walks away
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  Speaker 3: not receiving what they were promised or what was agreed
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  Speaker 3: upon here, And that could work in many different fashions.
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  Speaker 3: That could be a romance scam. That could be you know,
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  Speaker 3: somebody robbing you. That could be a Ponzi scheme, like
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  Speaker 3: all of these things where we promised something and then
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  Speaker 3: the other person walks away feeling duped. So I feel
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  Speaker 3: like DragCon, everybody's living, everybody's in their life, everybody's on
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  Speaker 3: Twitter fighting afterwards because of remarks. Was my favorite part
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  Speaker 3: is again that people's like.
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  Speaker 4: What when g a Gun said that there was no
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  Speaker 4: glamour at drag Coon and everyone was so upset, and
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, baby, I don't feel upset about
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  Speaker 4: that because she didn't see me, right, So obviously that's
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  Speaker 4: why I shouldn't se any glamor because she didn't see me.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, she's gonna get the people going, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she got people going.
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  Speaker 1: I was all in the three.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't a dragon.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh so funny.
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  Speaker 4: I was laughing myself, and I was just like, why
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  Speaker 4: are y'all letting this girl get you so upset.
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  Speaker 1: It's just her little opinion.
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  Speaker 2: It was also like queens like shape.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do, so right, But they were.
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  Speaker 2: Like rallying the troops. I'm like, is this is this
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  Speaker 2: a change?
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  Speaker 4: Dot or well, that's what I'm saying. I was like, literally,
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  Speaker 4: she struck a cord with some of y'all. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: maybe you do need to up your glamour. It feels
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  Speaker 4: like y'all were feeling kind of clocked and that's why
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  Speaker 4: you were feeling so sensitive.
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  Speaker 3: Nolla, that's what it's giving very much so. But I
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  Speaker 3: love that your scams are great. I love the scam
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  Speaker 3: of drag Con. I do think drag CON's more of
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  Speaker 3: a hustle because I.
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  Speaker 2: Do love it.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, yeah, and everyone comes and they get
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  Speaker 3: what they want. It would be different if I came
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  Speaker 3: and I went to your booth and instead of shakes
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  Speaker 3: with shake koolaidh and I was like, where's shat? Right?
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  Speaker 4: You thought that you're gonna get a meet agree with
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  Speaker 4: sha but you got fine?
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  Speaker 3: Said oh yeah yeah. Then I'd be like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 3: scamp right, yes, but they get the experience of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: seeing all of you.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's really amazing. Scarce ad.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's starting to get into my favorite segment of
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  Speaker 3: this podcast, Historic hoodwinks. This is where I were Gail
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  Speaker 3: Shay with a famous con caper group of criminals. We
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  Speaker 3: white like them, we might hate them, We will see
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  Speaker 3: along the way. One of Ireland's most famous sports stars
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  Speaker 3: is about to serve a five and a half year
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  Speaker 3: sentence in prison for lying about having cancer so people
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  Speaker 3: would give him money for treatment. In reality, he did
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  Speaker 3: not have cancer. He just took a picture of himself
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  Speaker 3: with an iPhone cable up his nose.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about this? Drag? Shall I tell you? Say?
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  Speaker 4: Now, now, ma'am, I'm clocking that iPhone cord that is
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  Speaker 4: very like and.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you which one it is. It's definitely
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  Speaker 3: for like a twelve and down it is.
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  Speaker 4: Because I have an eleven, right, I have an eleven,
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  Speaker 4: so I do have that lightning chord. And I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, that's exactly what that is. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 4: that is. Yeah, that was in his junk drawer and
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  Speaker 4: he went.
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  Speaker 2: Just really don't give it much effort.
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  Speaker 4: Masking tape too, but like that's not even like medical
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  Speaker 4: like grade tape, like that is that is like masking tape.
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  Speaker 2: He just finished playing his house and he was like you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, yeah girl, and so we'll get into it. But literally,
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  Speaker 4: off of this photo alone, I do not want to
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  Speaker 4: victim blame anybody.
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  Speaker 1: But but I do have two working eyes.
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  Speaker 4: And Mama, that's an iPhone charger.
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  Speaker 2: It's that giving.
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  Speaker 3: And also like, what if he put a little makeup
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  Speaker 3: on around his eyes? Do you think his eyes were
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  Speaker 3: just naturally that red? Because it could be given dragon No, okay,
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  Speaker 3: So who is this guy? His name is a DJ
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  Speaker 3: Carrey and he's one of Ireland's most respected sportsmen. He's
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  Speaker 3: been described as Ireland's messy or pelet so he's one
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  Speaker 3: of the best hurlers ever, a superstar of hurling.
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  Speaker 2: What is hurling?
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  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it because I don't know what it
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  Speaker 3: is either. Can we see an example of hurling? I
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  Speaker 3: want to see us.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he has very hairy forearms.
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  Speaker 2: He does. Wow, they're distracted?
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  Speaker 4: Like yeah, that was literally I was like, well, damn,
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  Speaker 4: he would.
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  Speaker 2: Get a ball over me because I'd be like, what
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  Speaker 2: is going on?
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  Speaker 1: All the hair left his head and went straight to
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  Speaker 1: his four arms.
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  Speaker 2: Dang, that's really what happened.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, if I went ball and I saw my forearms
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: have all my hair on them, like, why are you there?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: My body do that?
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Why are you scurrying away from my head?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Wow? His body? Now?
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: So in ancient Gaelic, it's like an ancient Gaelic sport
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that's really hard to describe. It's kind of like field
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: hockey slash lacrosse slash an.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Egg and spoon race.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: And here's a pretty moving video that basically explains it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna learn what Hurley is right now with
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: this video.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Hurley, they're running, he's got em, but he catches with
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: his hand. Fastest game on grass. They say, they move
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: in pretty slow though. Okay, so they're just dancing with
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: each other. All right, we got a hit and it's
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: going into a net.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Uh huh okay, so okay, So not John three seven?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: They said, yeah, why is that? There is not? I
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: want to know what Bible verse that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Reception in here?
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: What is the message?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: What's John three seven? I ain't been to church andlemen.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: John three Jesus tells Nicodemus, you should not be surprised
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: at my saying you must be born again, or do
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: not marvel that I said to you, you must be
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: born again.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Okay. So this person was just at the match, like
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: with their own agenda.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were like, they were like, except Jesus into
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: your heart. And her said, I could tell that you
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: are not hurling with the love of Christ.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: And they were like, you need to in his name. Yeah,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that's why you're.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, we'll take it.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's a big ass sign for that, right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this feels irrelevant.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Well all right, So in the eighties, nineties and early
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: two thousands, DJ Carrey. I don't like that his name
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: is DJ Carrey because it made me feel like he's like.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: A but he's not. But I do love that his
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: last name is Carrie because this whole situation, this whole
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: scam is a Carrie.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: It is that like that. I was like, okay, that's fitting, right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So right, he told everybody who he was.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: So DJ carry was a five time I'm All Ireland
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: winner and multiple All Star in hurling, one of the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: most decorated and acclaimed people to ever play the sport.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: So he's like the Michael Jordan of hurling, you know
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: what I mean, He's just doing it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: He's just hurling it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: We got a video of DJ playing a little bit,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: and let's see if DJ was any good. But in
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the meantime we just know that he's a household name
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: in Ireland and now he's even more famous for something else.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And obviously I love Ireland. I shoot there and I
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: have on a Celtic necklace.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, I really got it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's the crack having a good crack?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Crack here is you know, crack, but their crack is
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: like fun and like let's crack. So we got a
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: little video here of DJ. Let's see if DJ is
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: as good as they say.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: Part from an Island medal. The greatest honor of player
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: can receive in any one year is an odd Star Award,
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: and no Hollor has received more of these than DJ Carey.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Our next two clips demonstrates just why. The fourth is
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: from the Guinness.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the clins.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, the Irish acs is pretty strong. I can get
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: most of them, but some I'm justly like this is
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I'm iine.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: About this clear team, wonderful cohesion from goalkeeper called the forward,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: great spirit and determination and the ranks as well.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Which one is.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: He goes down. What number is he carry? Still? DJ
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: that's what they made it?
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: The John seven is that every game?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: What the hell is their obsession with Jesus and Nicodemus?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Like girl? What?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Also? Girl got the same sign, the same size. They
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: put it up.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Right, They leave it in its own little case at
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the basement with the Christmas tree, and then they bust
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: it out when they go to the hurling match.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Another hurling match, where John then bust out the banner.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: We can't leave without John.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: That is so okay.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: So now we're hurling experts. We totally know everything about it, yes,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and we're excited. So the business gets in a little
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: bit of trouble. Being a superstar hurler didn't inherently pay
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that much money since it's still a club sport, but
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: his fame did open doors to sponsorships, so sportscasting was
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: happening for him. He was getting sport commenting gigs as
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: well as coaching positions, so he was getting like a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: little side hustle going because I didn't know about hurling
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: until I was today years old.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: So the truly did not know about hurling until I
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: was today here all oh yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: So he needed a side hustle for sure. I can't
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: imagine be like a famous hurler. And then I like
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: see you like I don't know, like on the side
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: of the street corner at the at the roundabout like
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: most flowers. You gotta have cy right, like you're supposed
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: to be famous. So during and after his hurling career,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: he also met multiple cleaning and general He had like
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: multiple cleaning and janitorial businesses.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So okay, he's using his money.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Wise, let's start business, the primary one being DJ carry Enterprises,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a cleaning supplies business headquartered in his hometown of Gordon. Now,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: why would you call it DJ Carrey Enterprises. That doesn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: tell me what you do? No, girl, too vague, supposed
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Like DJ Clary's cleaning or nothing.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: That is kind of like one of those like Real
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Housewives entities when like there's like a housewife that's like, yeah, I.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Own my own business and.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: It's called Fierce Girl Enterprises, and you're like, what do
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: they do.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: There, girl boss could conglaborate?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Like I don't even remember the name
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: of the business. But like recently in the like Salt
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Lake City Reunion, Heather said something to Lisa about like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: and what is your business? Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what they do. And Lisa, it's like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: we create experiences at my business. We create experiential activations.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, you're scamming people.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yo, And he told somebody says experience and activation in the.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Same you know what do y'all do? What?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: But what do y'all do? What we told you? We
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: activate the experience?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, who is gonna get it active?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Riot, she said, because the experience is just sitting there
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: waiting for me to come and activate it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Activate it, Okay, sitting there dormant.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Right, she said, Like a perm you need to activate
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the first to get it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's why you need our enterprises.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, hello.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: So initially DJ ran these businesses with his wife Christine.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: In two thousand and one, DJ's sister Katrina, who was
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: a former international hockey and women's hurling star.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Damn, y'all got an athletic as family. No, what is this?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, sister?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, this looks like she can really get down right.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I would want her next to me in a pub fight,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: like you know, She throwed out you know, yeah, hello there,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna have her like just standing just like
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: right off my left shoulder.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, and what because my girl had got
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: enterprise estimator. Yeah, yeah right.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: She's about to activate an ass rprise.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Hello what about that?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: So the sister came in and replaced Christine, who was
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: his wife because they were getting a divorce. So now
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the wife is like, I'm leaving the business because I'm
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: divorcing you. So sister stepped in, probably after getting in
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: a little fight with the wife Jordan. So then in
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: two thousand and nine, DJ switched it up again, replacing
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: his sister with millionaire girlfriend Sarah Newman as his business partner.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Sarah is famous in Ireland for being an investor on
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the show Dragon's Den, their version of Shark Tank.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Uh okay, got you.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I love a bootleg shrikes dragons all right, let me
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: see a little dragons din, but will it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Be good enough for our dragons? As the partner of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Kenny Legend DJ Carey, Sarah is no angue in this area,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: as she is quick to demonstrate.
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: Dohie, I'm Sarah, she's looking at There is absolutely a
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: shortage of ash ye Okay. So that's why a lot
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: of hurlely makers are moving abroad. I know because I
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: I set one up in Slovakia and myself.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So they need air. That's that's stick.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: But I happen to know for a fact that people
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: will travel from all over Ireland to certain counties to
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: buy hurles So I like your idea.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: So when they say ash, do they mean like because
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: is it like the way that we think of ash
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: or do the Irish have a slang for ash that
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: means something else?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Ash wood is the type of wood, Okay.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: And I'm glad you said that, because they got some
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: little worse for everything, honey. That's why I always want
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to like You'll just say they have their little cuty
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: little words and things.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, what's that?
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: One of my favorite things because like you know, they're
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: like they underwear they call pants, and then pants they
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: call knickers.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And I'll be like, what you call me? Every time?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Every time, And.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I just love watching the color drain from their face
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: they say the least likely.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Like the black people of white people, they are the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: only ones who understand depression, and they really stand on business.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: They really do really stuck with them.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: They can't let it go when I'm over there, Like
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: they will put potatoes with any damn thing.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not even joking.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: You get it in a pokey. It's just gonna be
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: a potato. I don't know why, right, I'm like, I
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: don't know why, but it's gonna be the Soto make
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: it rain girl like everywhere.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do love a potato.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I mean they make it and haven't had it every way.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: You get it, every possible mash, scalloped, hash fried, baked, baked,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: like anything that they can do to it, they don't.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, you know, potatoes are really diverse. I love you
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: know all the things that you can do with the potato.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Show me the way.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: So as a couple now, because this is Sarah and
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: we just watched her Dragons Din and I kind of
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: also like her on Dragons did because she was getting
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a little cunty like Cayden.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: She was like, well, we all out of ash and
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: That I myself have outsourced to Slovakia, like.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: We'll come all over Ireland. Maybe I need al and stick.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: What is this?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: What's crazy is that the whole tone seemed like so
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: no and then she's like.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's exactly very very girl boss of just
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: having the tone of no, but then being like yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yes Icon.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So, as a couple, DJ and Sarah are icon bought
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: a number of investment and personal properties as far as Switzerland.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So they got Chalet Grace, which was named after Sarah's daughter,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: that was like a luxurious twelve million dollar Swiss holiday
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: home overlooking the mediterrane or Matterhorn rather. And you know
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: how you need a twelve million dollar home looking over
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the Matterhorn?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I just just finished the remodel on
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: my twelve million dollar home overlooking the what's it called
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Macarta Horn.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Macco, the macaron, the macaron.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bought the property off Timu so.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: W and I spent twelve million dollars and the whole
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: house fits on top of a macaron.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So clearly they're bawling out.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm remembering now that I mean DJ Carrey he
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: had his side hustle businesses. We haven't really learned how
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: much money he was making off a bit with the
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: word enterprise in it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not seeing maybe that's much.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: However, obviously Sarah is in this shark dragons.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Drags did dragons, and she clearly has.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: An interest in hurling because she's like purchasing things with.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Ash you know all about Ashwood.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: She's going to Slovakia, right, and now I'm going to
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: be looking into Astroyd being like, okay, what makes that suspecial?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So he is still the most famous person in hurling.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: So that's how you could probably pull a battye who
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: can you know, drop twelve mili on the Switzerland home
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: with the macarone matterhorn. Yeah, Katriona, is that how you
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: say that?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Katria? Oh? When was a spell like that?
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: This is like how there's some Irish names that like
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: you read them and they don't they're not what they
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: are soon like s I b O h A yes
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah s A, I Saron and I love you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: But the reason for that is the Irish alphabet doesn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: have as many letters as the English alphabet, so a
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: lot of times they put two letters together to make
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a different sound.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: So I had to really learn, like I would be.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Reading people's names, and I was hooked on phonics, like
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: because that's how I was reading the names, because you guys.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: You still speak English. So that's the thing that's crap.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Listen before the British. So they was like, we're not stopping.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: They said, you know what, some of these letters are
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: getting the chop.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: They're like, we don't need all of those.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: And then go bye girl bye. Okay then, And honestly
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It for them.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, most people in Ireland speak English or some form
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: of English, but there is like still Gaelic gala on
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: every street. And the funny thing about Gaelic is it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: like English characters. But I couldn't read none of that shit.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Like I am totally not validating the
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: fact that they do have their Gaelic roots and that
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: that in and of itself is a different language. And
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: look at me over here, just buying into the colonizer
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and their propaganda that everyone in Ireland just has always
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: spoken English.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: You see how the scam just like cis and it's insidious.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: They had to educate me. I didn't know letters next
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: to these letters because I and then and they told me,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and I was like, okay. They also know a lot
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: about their history. They don't erase their history like we
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: do over here. Like when I tell you the average
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Irish pressure could tell me when that bridge was made, like, oh,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: this is where the original I'm like.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: How do y'all all like casually? Yeah, how do y'
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: all know everything about your history?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: They have a good schooling system.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Kids and those stuff I know, so crazy.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Paying Texas kids are supposed to the mind.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to just like know about like contributing to.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Corporate America and capitalism, like that's all that really matters.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Right in Dallas, they have this town.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what it's called, but just maybe if
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: could look it up for me, But it's like a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: town where it's like all.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Businesses, but it's for kids.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: If you put in like Dallas business town, it's probably
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: gonna come up.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But when I was a kid, I'm from Dallas.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: We had something in First Go called Safety Town where
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: you can volunteer to get your hours for like your
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: college courts and everything like that. So I volunteered at
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Safety Town, which was at a fire station, so a
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: give tours to the fire station. I would teach classes
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: for kids on how to like tea like you're a beasting,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: or if you like break your arm, how to set
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: it with household things so that you don't have to
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: pay fifty k for an ambulance or like that, a
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: CPR like things like that. And then we also had
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: a safety town where the kids could drive around in
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: these like little cars and they had like scale replicas
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of our town that they could like go in and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: out of, and it was super cute. But this is
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: like on capitalist steroids what this is. And it's like, Okay,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I don't see it here, but somebody's gonna scream it
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: out to me who's from Texas or put it in
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: the comments, y'all.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: But it is a little town in Dallas where they.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Have a miniature like town that's set up to be
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: replica sized for like kids who are probably like.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, maybe third grade and under.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: And maybe fourth And it's a town where you gotta
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: maybe this Kidzania Kidzania, so you have to go there
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: and they immediately sign you a job.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: So you might be the CEO of kid Zania.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: So that means you gotta do payroll and it's stressful
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: because you got to get the payroll out for the
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: whole city.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Or you might like they have a podcast studio.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, and like you'd be a news anchor,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: but they also have people who were door Dash, They
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: had kids doing cosplay door Dash.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: No, I girl, Look, I do not know what I
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: would do if I ordered a door Dash and like
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: a third grader brought it to my.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Door, I would be like, where is your mama? What
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: are you doing here?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Five starts?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm on CPS.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: What the hell.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Should you be in school?
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: But I do know that kids do like the cosplayers adults.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But this to me feels a bit extreme because there's name.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Brands that are on these stores, and they really are
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: making these kids be employed.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And are these kids getting compensated or are They're like.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: It's just a game.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: That conversation is joy yeah, right, because they're trying.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: They are trying to they are trying to condition them
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: at a young age to be like.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Don't you love work? Don't you just love door dashing?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And don't you love not getting like money for it?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Isn't that your dream.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Earlier and earlier?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: My goodness?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, So anyways, it's one of the things I've
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: always just been like, what but also like it looks
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: kind of cool.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: So Katrina had a huge falling out with DJ.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Remember DJ, and he's got his wife Sarah with the
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: money they got the Chalets, and Katrina, who was his
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: former but yeah it business partner, also a sister that
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a huge falling out when she was forced out of
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the company. Well, duh, that's your sister and you forced
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: her out of the company. I hope that falling out
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: came with her hitting you with one of them her states,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: because she looks like she gets as right. So to
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: get back at him, she set up a rival cleaning
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: company called Carrie Cleaning Supplies with their sister Liz and Mom,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: also headquartered in Goaran, which should have been the cleanest
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: town in Ireland by now, because they're all now we
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: got all these cleaning companies in Goran. At least the
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: sister put in Carrie Cleaning Supplies. Okay, because now we
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: know what you're doing. We know I don't know what
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: DJ Carrey Enterprise is doing, so we can already tell
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: somebody's lap. So in twenty eleven, DJ Carrie Enterprises, along
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: with his other cleaning business companies, all went bankrupt.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Surprise supprise. Maybe nobody know what you did, yea. The
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: website was DJ carry Enterprise do stuff for you right now?
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: No, and It's like I was just waiting for the
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: bankruptcy because I was just.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: All like, what are you even doing? What is your
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: business model?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Like please?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And quickly yeah, quickly No, they.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Were like, we install activations Ryan.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: So the same year, commercial court ordered DJ and Sarah
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to repay about ten million dollars in property loans to
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Allied Irish banks. So that same year that he goes bankrupt.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: See this is why you can't get with a man, Lady, Sarah.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: You was popping off on the dungeons and dragons, yea,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: sharks and tanks, yes, and you got money for a
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: twelve million dollar house, and now all of a sudden
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you're tied to married to a bank and the court
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: has also ordered you to repay about ten million dollars
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in property loans to Allied Irish banks. In twenty twelve,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: DJ and Sarah separated. I mean, you gotta get away
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: from this man. He has driven right Listen, you gotta
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: be making my life better if you're gonna come into
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: it as a man as a woman, I believe in
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: your potential as a man.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I need you to already have way more than I do.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: You have so much to prove. Yeah, you have so
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: much to prove because the chances.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Of you making my life for us are just way
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: too high.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Like I mean, with most men, the bar is already
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: underneath the floor.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: So it's just like, wo man.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: It's like you wake up, maybe I'll slept together for
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the first time, and you know he's leaving and you
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: look over in your person You're like, he didn't take
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: any money.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Out of my wallet.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's oh my god.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: But then you look at your closet and then realize
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: that he took your Marzilla Tabby shoes.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And I can't believe that man did that and gifted
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: them to his girlfriend. Be serious, so I will never
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: forget that. But she saw the girl in her tabbies,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: but those are my shoes. Also, girlfriend looking at you
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: as well, because it's feeling like a scam that you
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: would do it together. It's a set up, because who
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: is who is who?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: In their right mind?
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Their man comes home with some shoes that difinitely looked
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: like feet but nothing, and it's like, Babe, I got
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: you these new tabbies, what and you just put them
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: on your feet? No box, no peer, no nothing.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: What in the Cinderella is going on here? What what
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: what he was?
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: He?
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Look?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: He was pretty.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Charming you right out of your new sho.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think I could get back in dating if
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: if if I dated, if I slept with somebody and
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: they stole my shoes, yeah, and gave them to another woman.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: If he had pond him, I would have felt better
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: about But you stole my shoes and I had to see.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Him on another bitch. She ain't walking, She walking a
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: mile in my.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: No, No, that would be my thirteenth I'd like done.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: And I love that she shared that with us, because
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I would have took that to the grave. Jesus couldn't
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: get that out of me, right, I don't know what
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: you're all right?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: No, they could not waterboard that information out of me.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: So in twenty twelve, you know, DJ and Sarah separators. Sarah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: good for you to get away from that man. That's
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: when some very convenient health issues started to up here.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not you guys were wondering, like, DJ ain't got
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: to the cancer yet, but now we're getting there. So
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: cancer trouble. This is where I can't stand with DJ.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with the enterprises and things like that. But
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I'm very sensitive when it comes to faking real illnesses
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: that people suffer with that take the lives of so
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: many and obviously, like a lot of us, many of us,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: if not all of us, have been affected by it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to bring a podcast down, but I
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: do want to say that just so you know that
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: we're not being insensitive about this topic.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: But I'm about to get on DJs.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, oh.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm about to hop right in there and get
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: on his ass about this one.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: So initially DJ told people he had multiple Maya noma,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: a rare and treatable but incurable blood cancer.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: That is actually what my dad died from. No, Yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: multiple myeloma. So I'm really gonna get on your ass. J.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm about to drag get the ship out of you, sir.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I yeah, sorry, And.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: It's a very it's a very rare. It's like you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: and it's really aggressive. And you know, my dad went
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: through multiple treatments even including like a stem cell transplant
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: like all of that. So I have seen the firsthand,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: like how terrible multiple myeloma is, so for him to
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: that little okay, okay, DJ, let's go.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: So he said that he was receiving blood transfusions and
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: hormone injections overseas in the US and needed money to
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: travel there and back. There was no big news stories
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: where he went on the record about his health, but
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: he called and texted friends and fans and fellow athletes
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: to tell them the news personally. So remember he used
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to be famous.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: As uh huh, So he didn't try.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: To exploit the general public and media because the receipts
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: would have they would have been having pop pop paparazzi,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: you know, in front of you know, the hospital, things
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: like that, waiting for them. So when people asked why
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: he had to go so far away for treatment, he
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: said he had gone to a hospital in Dublin and
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: they flooded his lungs and he had ongoing malpractice suit
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: against them.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: So, my guy, they flooded his lungs, So they drowned you?
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: What did girl?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: What means? What did yes?
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, did they hold you underwater in the bathtub
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: until you could no longer breathe? Like, what what do
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you mean they flooded your lungs?
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't like mad there?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: What what?
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: So this sounds vague, Yeah, but people trust the DJ
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: when he asked for money for medical treatment because he
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: was a household.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Name and widely viewed as a decent man.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Mind you, he just okay, I guess his his enterprises
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: did go bankrupts. They weren't like fraudulent, they just went
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: out of business. And bankrupt is like they get out
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: of jail free for rich people. It is like, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: ain't got it, y'all. And then they hide their assets.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: They're like the business ain't guy, And I'm like, isn't.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: That a for.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Walking around my ap?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you mean you ain't got it?
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So people were trusting him because he was famous,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and because famous equals good person.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: You know how famous equal goes?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, because every single famous person is famously a good person.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, just like at Nicki Minaj.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I was just thinking about like the best person I
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: know in rap and Nicky.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Popped up immediately, just.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Like the choices she made, I know, you know, the
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: people she married, right.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: The presidents that she supports.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for her sainthood, for her to finally
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: be you know, become a saint. Saint Chicholas makes.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Sense because he ain't really either, girl, I don't even
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: care to barb y'all come after me.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Y'all unemployed? Ya got no damn ja.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all ain't got no jamn jobs and no damn sense.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So nobody scared or worried about you.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: And they're gonna deport your good sis as soon as
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: that orange man is gonna talk about some.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Goal card girl, come get her.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: So back to trustworthy j such a good guy celebrity.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: They trusted him. And as far as actual evidence of
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: his illness, he faked medical records and images. So this
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: is a medical record that he had. It's on it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: on a letterhead.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I've faked things with letterheads.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I went and got from the internet, like it is
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: very easy.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look can we do in on? What does
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: it say?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: She's like illegible?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Dear dear?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: His name is Dennis, Dennis, okay, carry what's his middle name?
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: James? Dear Dennis, Jonathan jobless, jobless.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Dear Dennis, thank you for attending the fred claim yesterday.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: This is what says. Can you read it?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Just?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Oh it's just blurry? Okay, for a.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Second, I thought I was failing exam. Well anyway, so
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: it's like, dear James, thank you for attending this, and
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: this is very legit and you are definitely sick. Yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: let's see some images. This is definitely an iPhone cord.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: You know what's pissing me off the most about this
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: is like, Dennis, if you're gonna do a fake cord,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: can you at least stick the charging part of it
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: all the way up your nose. I can see where
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: the where the plug in is.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: And here's the thing with those oxygen tubes. When are
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: they ever opaque? They're always clear?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you need to see.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're always clear.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And isn't it usually more than one?
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: And if he's trying to say, like this is a
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: cancer port, wouldn't it be on your chest?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: And also I'm like those ones like because sometimes they
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: do do like the single like nostril, but that's normally
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: if it's to go like back down your throat to
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: add like you know, like a pathway like down into
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: your actual air. The ones with the two are where
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: you know you can you are able to breathe pretty
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: well and you could just kind of breathe through your nose.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: But then they do do those single ones and they
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: tape in that go all the way up and like
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: down into the throne.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: We did a little bit of research.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: He saw a picture of somebody and then it was
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: just like, yeah, I think I can recreate that.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: But like like you could have, like you literally could.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Have gone to like pet Smart and got like one
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: of the clear tubes from that they used for like
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: an aquarium, you know, for like the oxygen that you
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: use in your.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Right Okay, see this is a little to get this
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: a little too fast.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Look, Okay, I was gonna say Joe Ane's fabrics or something.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: You're like, no, So you go to the pet Smart,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: you go to the aquarium. You talk to Dan.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly where I did.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: We like me and my partner Dan, Funny enough, we
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: had we were like, oh my god, we should get well.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: First of all, it started off with little little I
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: forget what they're called.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It was something else. It wasn't the it wasn't the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: beta fish.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: We got little like uh, I don't know, I forget
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: what they are, but they look like little lobsters whatever
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: the hell they are.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, but they.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Were like oh cray, yeah, yes, and then yes, and
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: then Dan was like, oh my god, I heard that
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: if you that like beta fish, don't bother them because
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: they're like bottom feeders, so you can put a beta
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: fish in the tank with them. And I was just like,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: but beta fish are like naturally they say that they're
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: really aggressive and.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: He's like, no, I read somewhere that you can we
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: put that beta fish in there. Twenty minutes later, it
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: had like eaten all day and I was just like, well,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: there they go.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: They're all dead, like watched it murder them. And I said, I.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Said, I heard somewhere. You just went with that. You
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: never said asked where you were, Like he said, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: said somewhere I heard, yeah, see.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: And my baby, he do love to do that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: He'd be like, oh my god, I saw this thing
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: somewhere and like say it like it is like straight
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: up facts. I love, Like I have to like now
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: be like Dan where where where it was like.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, I read you could put the Dutch oven in
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the dishwasher. No you can't. You cannot put the Dutch
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: of it in the dishwasher.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Somewhere.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: He heard it somewhere in his own minds.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: That's the sources. Like I feel like this should work.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bety fish jump you in.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: When you put a new fish in the tank, they'd
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: be like, wallow up, jump in the gang.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I mean I always say though, like people who own
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: fish could be murderers.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad y'all.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Got rid of that fish tank pat that you can't touch.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: It's a pet that you're like eattle flakes.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: I was like, she was around for two days and
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: I was just like, man, I don't want this bitch
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: at my house no more. I was like, give her
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: to your knees. I don't want this bitch around no more.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: She pissed me off.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Murderer she was.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: She got after it, she got act right.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: So as far as like the illness, we got the
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: images and the fake medical records. He told people that
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: he was in line for a one million euro payout
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: from the HSC, the publicly funded healthcare system in Ireland.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: He said that those who helped him out financially would
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: get back what he got when that payment came through.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: So this is so funny to me because this is
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: almost like a Nigerian prince scam that he's running on
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: these people. Because he's like, I'm gonna get my payouts,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: so y'all just flow me and then when I get
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: my money, like everybody.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: So between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty two, he took
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: about four hundred thousand dollars for more than twenty people,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: and there's no record of DJ ever having cancer or
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: being treated abroad when Irish police investigated. That was also
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: a smooth part of his plan because he wasn't getting
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: treated in Ireland, so there was nobody who could really
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: check in or go to the hospitals there to see
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: if he was there.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Well, my you know, I would have been like, okay,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: so wait, you're involved in a lawsuit with this hospital.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I would have been checking the public records for that lawsuit,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: because that's public when you file. I would have been like, okay,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: let me be like trying to see if I can
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: figure out like a case number, look up his name,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: look up the hospital, because it it's like, okay, well,
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: if this is a suit that he's filing, then he
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: is the person lodging the complaints, so his name will
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: be on it, so I will be looking.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: To see if this lawsuit is legitimate.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: I can't believe nobody thought to just be like, let
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: me look up and see if this lawsuit is real exactly.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: And he named the hospital, so it's like.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: You are named the hospital.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Oh and if I worked at the hospital, babe, if
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I was a representative at the hospital, you know, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: would have been out in the streets.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Being like wire shame right, Yes, I would have been right,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: But we gotta get angry.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Moms like yeah, the shame, shame, shame.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: So the Fred Hutch Hospital in Seattle, where DJ claimed
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: to have been treated, had no record of him being there.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: His doctor in Ireland had no record of him ever
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: having cancer, There was no record in any outstanding claim
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: against the AGC or a hospital, and he had not
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: traveled to the US since twenty fifteen. So when question
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: in December of twenty twenty two, DJ admitted that he
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: had made up the story about being sick with cancer
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: to buy his self time, as he had substantial debt
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: with Allied Irish banks because remember they got them a
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: million dollars looking over to Montclair, yes.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Uh huh, and ten million dollars that you got to
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: pay back in loans.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: So to add insults to talk of injury, medical professionals
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: in Ireland have said, there is no need to go
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: abroad for treatment for this type of cancer anyway, And
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I believe that.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know how your.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Experiences of the US medical system here, but we're.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Right, Like going to the US to get treated that
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: should have been a red flag right there. Really, Yeah,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: you want to go over, so you're going to go
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: to the ghetto he treated?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, right if you say some. So here's the victims.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: DJ often targeted well off people that he hardly knew,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: and he would befriend them or play a few rounds
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: of golf with them. Golf where really get the scams popping? Yes,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: And then he would do all this before hitting them
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: with the cancer news and then asking for money. One
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: businessman said that he hadn't heard from DJ for thirty
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: years when he got an unsolicited text message from him.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: What in the future, right.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I don't hear from you for thirty years, and you're
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: randomly gonna hit me up for like twenty bands.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I was just thinking about you, right, I was just
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: thinking about you and right one time, right, you know.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: When I got that tab at the pub back when
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: I was hurling Yeah, well look baby, let me hold
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: twenty G's just ridic Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: It is literally like the same thing.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: If you counted thirty years of inflation nab tab that
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I paid and these thirty I got. Some of DJ's
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: targets were asked for a donation for his alleged cancer care.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Others were asked for a loan, which you promised to
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: repay quickly. So when he said he was still in
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: the hospital, he was like, once I get this payment
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: and this neck brace off, Y're gonna get drops other people.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: He was like, can you donate?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: He said, you got it? You just can You could
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: just you could just give up.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, yeah, is a donation do you
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: ask for more from the donation person or do you ask.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: For more from the loan person.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: I feel more from the donation person because you're not
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: going to be paying that back.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: But I mean, you're not going to.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Be paying back the loan person either, because they're scamming
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: there way. But if you were going to have a
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: conscience and at least try and pay back the people
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: that you said that you're going to pay back, I
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: would take a smaller loan from them because then I'm like, okay,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: let's I got to pay back.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: There would be less pressure on you from them to
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: get the money back. Yeah, that's a good strategy because
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, are people more willing to loan
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: more money or give away more money? To me, they're
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: one in the same because my mom always said, like,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: never loan out more money than you're comfortable not receiving back.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't really loan money exactly already, I
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: get their own money.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I do not much.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I'll just give you the money exactly, and if I
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: if I feel so inclined to get it to you,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I will do that.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: But like I'm like, loans.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Now, please resentment because I can watch it and I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: give you.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: A loan and then I see you getting a pedicure
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: the next day, I'm like, well, that's my pedicure.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: What's what you mean, that's my that's my coffee from
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: the local coffee shop.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Next.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where you need to be saving back up?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Ryot Toes need done.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: To write you Instagram post and it's my scare post.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you doing on vacation in the Maldives?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: So he got more than one hundred thous dollars plus
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: a London apartment and a car out of a billionaire.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Dennis O'Brien. This is one person who founded a mobile
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: phone network called Digit Dennis O'Brien, which is like the
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: most Irish name ever. So this is Dennis O'Brien and he.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Taking it back. That's how he looks shag. He looked
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: like he got a lot of money.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: That cod is a lot of money.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: That coat is very tight though. He looked like he
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: one stride away from just the button's.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Right right here is one sneeze somebody's eye out.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: So he founded the mobile network Digital, which I definitely
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: have seen Digital in Europe. So at one point Dennis
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: asked for evidence, and this is Dennis O'Brien, the rich Dennis.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: He asked for evidence of the medical treatment that DJ
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: was getting, and DJ gave him letters claiming to be
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: from the Fred Hutch Medical Center in Seattle. Later, DJ
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: told Dennis that he had won a handball tournament and
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: that it made him an elite athlete in the US
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: and that the US government will pay for your medical
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: treatment if you're an elite athlete. That's wrong for a
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: couple of reasons, because like.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Girl medical and first of all, we don't know what
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: hurling is over here, so no, they're only doing that
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: if it's the.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Handball, so that's something we know. So now he's like,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: they're going to give me a handball scholarship.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: No, you mean like.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: People have a hand and then you have a and you.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Have a ball and is there a goal?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, scorn, It's like soccer.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: There's this one sport that all the gay bears like
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: to play. It's not lacrosse, but you know, no, actually
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: it is lacrosse. I think it is lacrosse. Lacrosse, yeah,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: because it's kind of like football. But it's like, yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: It's like that.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: So this is handball a rugby.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Rugby, that's what I'm thinking of. Rugby, thank you, thank you.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: That's what the all the homosexual bears like to play.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Let's get to know.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: So at one point, you know that, THENNIS had the
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: rich guy asked for this evidence. DJ told him, look,
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I am now a handball star in the US, and
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: they the US government is going to pay for my
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: medical treatment is and get it popping. So that's wrong
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: for a couple of reasons. No offense to handballers out there,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: but it's not a super important sport for US, as
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Shane is demonstrated by immediate confusion that she had not
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: that important to us. And also, the US government is
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: not going to help anyone pay for any kind of
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: medical treatment because it's the US government.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: We don't like the Olympic athletes.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Got to pay to go over there, right, Olympic athletes
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: had the flavor flav had to raise money for a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: female Olympic athlete to go compete.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, you know what I'm saying.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, also, he's not a US citizen too, and
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: we know how we treat those here, so I'm like,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: you're not going to be getting.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Getting nothing, yeah, but some deportation.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: And it's so funny because people will train for the
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Olympics all their lives and then they make it to
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: the Olympics, and the US got the nerve to be like,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: you got some Olympics money?
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Oh girl, how you getting there?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: You got the Olympics, and then have the nerve to
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: not even give them gold.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: And then if they get gold, like other countries will
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: give you a pretty hefty payout, yes, right.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, well, aren't you going to get some
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: sponsorship deals that'll pay.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: For Do they get that? Oh? Oh damn crazy?
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: But thank you for bringing the gold home.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, we'll post you on the Instagram. Maybe I'll get
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: your followers up. Yeah, he can get you some spots.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you got to go to every other country
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: for some health care. I don't know what the hell
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: he was talking about. So here's the sentencing and fate.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: So DJ was arrested in twenty twenty three and he
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: pled guilty to defrauding thirteen people over a nine year
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: period from early twenty fourteen to late twenty twenty two,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: out of four hundred thousand euros, which is actually way
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: more than four hundred thousand dollars. So he has we
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: paid forty four thousand euros so far. He was sentenced
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: to five and a half years in prison for fraud.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: His defense lawyer said he was instructed to offer a heartfelt,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: sincere apology to every victim at his sentencing. He was
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: accompanied in court by a Killarney potato farmer named John Crowley,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: who is still such a big fan of DJ the Hurler.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: He can't bring himself to be mad at the man. Now,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I will tell you if there's not a close caption
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: on this shay, you're not gonna the Killarney accent is
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: pretty strong.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Fact. I know people from.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: There, and I know he has a stand to defend
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: d J. Carey because you can't defend the defensss helping
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: to defend him. But he's a friend of mine, was
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: a friend of mine, and still is a friend of mine.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: He is sins. He is a sinner Williams when I
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: was younger, but forgiveness playing a Katholic. I'm not pretty
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: practiced Katholic much, but I lived strong Catholic values. A
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: lot of those people are very very angry. I suppose
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: a lot of the more very mad, very angry, very bitalism.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: But a lot of people still they feed a lot
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: of sympathy for him. They remain quiet. They're not making
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: me either, big male. They always.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, he was hiding the money his first friend. Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: Love doesn't know how to respect from him because we
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: have a huge, huge respect as a hold and we're
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: probably addicted to holand like we love a holland I can.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: He said, look, i'mna stand beside him, right.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: He said, my man, my man, my name.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: He was like, look, everybody says, I said the prayer
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Right, he's like forgiveness y'all, forgiveness y'all, dating y'all right.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: And forgiving, don't forget to forget.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Oh no, So he's been letting DJ live in his
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: house for the past six months.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Oh oh wh whoa who?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Wait right? So wait he was DJ was sentenced when
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: he's twenty twenty.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Were he was arrested in twenty twenty three three and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: then sentenced to five years.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: It is only twenty twenty six, so he didn't even
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: serve his full sentence. They gave him the Jinshaw treatment too.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: They said, oh, you could do like a little bit
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: of time and then we'll let you out.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Ooh, I hate that.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: So the reason that he was able to live with
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: him was because he was sentenced to five and a
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: half years in prison, but he didn't have to start
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: serving his sentence till shortly after that, so he had
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: six months where he could have lived with his number
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: one supporter, number one bestie, bookie lesson bestie.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: I wonder what that roommate situation was like, like was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: he even a good roommate?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: And so DJ's sister Katrina, who ran the rival cleaning
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: business with their mother is also a waiting trial in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven for money laundering.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Bamn.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, she really looks up to her brother. She was like, Oh,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: my brother doing sports, I'm doing professional sports. Oh my
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: brother got a cleaning company. I got a clean my
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: brother do with fraud. Let me get Let me.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Get a little piece of that too, she said. It
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: looks fun.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Little sister activities. I'm a following your foot so m
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh. Well that brings us to the end
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: of an amazing episode show. We always ask on the show,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: where would you like to be found?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, you can find me on Instagram, you can find
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: me on threads, you can find me on maybe TikTok
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: for so for the foreseeable future, YouTube, and then twitch.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: I will be starting a book club. And then yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: you could just like catch me out here in these
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: virtual streets normally complaining about this current administration.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: As you shouldst yes, pull upon them, yeah for real
• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:56
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: We're starting March twenty sixth in Chicago with the House
• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:20
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:27
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• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:04:01
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