Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Spotify's Best Music Discovery Rocket Horse And The Voice Behind It Brian Myk
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- 0:00Speaker 1: There's a brand new podcast that we created. It's called
- 0:02Speaker 1: Music's Lost History. We know the music, but if I
- 0:05Speaker 1: were to question you about a song or about an artist,
- 0:08Speaker 1: could you and would you be able to really point
- 0:11Speaker 1: it out before I get to the end of the piece?
- 0:13Speaker 1: The answer is waiting inside your memories. Music's Lost History,
- 0:18Speaker 1: only on Arrow.net, A-R-R-O-E.net. Enjoy your exploration. Brian, I'm telling you,
- 0:24Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a big kudos here. Your
- 0:27Speaker 1: Spotify account is just unbelievable. I mean, you give me
- 0:29Speaker 1: an opportunity to start song one and experience it like
- 0:33Speaker 1: a true album. I mean, what is that like for
- 0:35Speaker 1: a musician who comes from a world where he's always
- 0:37Speaker 1: been about albums and cassettes and things like that, where
- 0:41Speaker 1: Spotify just really lets me explore your sound?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fantastic. It's getting the word out,
- 0:49Speaker 2: you know, and I'm just... from a small town here
- 0:53Speaker 2: in Jasper. So it's something that we didn't have like 10,
- 0:59Speaker 2: 15 years ago. So getting a word out then would
- 1:02Speaker 2: have been playing live and through word of mouth essentially.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Now you can reach so many different people in different countries, everything.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Spotify is one outreach. Also on Pandora, we really blew
- 1:13Speaker 2: up on Pandora. So on August 9th, we went from
- 1:17Speaker 2: like 540,000 streams Today is, what is today, 28th, 29th?
- 1:23Speaker 2: So it's 50 days and we're at 877,000 streams. So
- 1:27Speaker 2: it's 300 and change thousand streams.
- 1:29Speaker 3: In 50 days, like 7,000.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Streams a month went international, like in 60 countries. So
- 1:37Speaker 2: it's all blown up in the last. in 2026 you know.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Do you find yourself in a situation where you're going
- 1:44Speaker 1: I don't get it because it's like there are days
- 1:46Speaker 1: where my numbers in Ukraine are shooting through the roof
- 1:49Speaker 1: or India and I'm going what am I saying that
- 1:53Speaker 1: would even attract somebody from a different country and it's
- 1:56Speaker 1: got to be the same thing for music what are
- 1:58Speaker 1: you doing that's bringing people together.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Yeah that's a good question something and I guess what
- 2:05Speaker 2: it is is people like all different types of music
- 2:07Speaker 2: everywhere yeah you wouldn't think that You know, somebody in,
- 2:12Speaker 2: you know, wherever Afghanistan would like country or country rock
- 2:16Speaker 2: or rock pop and they do. It's it's it's fantastic
- 2:20Speaker 2: how that is. You know, I had no idea that
- 2:22Speaker 2: it was like that, you know.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Now, with listeners, even though I keep calling you Brian,
- 2:27Speaker 1: but we need to also put focus on Rocket Horse
- 2:30Speaker 1: as well, because that's where I want them to go
- 2:31Speaker 1: to Spotify and all the other, even like Pandora. Because
- 2:35Speaker 1: if they go in there and say, where's Brian at?
- 2:36Speaker 1: I can't find Brian. But Rocket Horse, where did the
- 2:39Speaker 1: name come from? First of all, I love the name.
- 2:41Speaker 1: How did it come into being, and how are you
- 2:43Speaker 1: keeping it survivable?
- 2:44Speaker 3: Awesome. Thank you.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's really interesting being here in a small
- 2:48Speaker 2: town in– Up here in Jasper, they've got a lot
- 2:52Speaker 2: of old antique shops, and I'm an old soul. I
- 2:55Speaker 2: typically have been. In between doing music, I buy and
- 3:00Speaker 2: sell historic pieces. I sold Wyatt Herb's Bible about eight
- 3:03Speaker 2: years ago to a guy in Australia. I've always been
- 3:07Speaker 2: fascinated with history and holding history and just, like I said,
- 3:11Speaker 2: a real old soul. So we were going with my
- 3:14Speaker 2: wife to these antique shops, and there was a very
- 3:16Speaker 2: old rocking horse on top of.
- 3:19Speaker 3: A glass case. I took a picture of it. I
- 3:21Speaker 3: think it's pretty cool. I don't think I've seen one
- 3:23Speaker 3: that old. It had to be 1800s. And then when
- 3:26Speaker 3: I was here kicking around.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Ideas for the project name, that picture came across.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, that old horse.
- 3:33Speaker 2: What about if we made it modern, like put a
- 3:36Speaker 2: rocket on it? And then kind of started messing around
- 3:39Speaker 2: with a couple of logos and stuff. And kind of
- 3:43Speaker 2: stuck with that. Yeah, it's just from that old... I
- 3:46Speaker 2: bet you that horse is still there, probably. That old
- 3:47Speaker 2: rocking horse.
- 3:48Speaker 1: I love people that do exactly that. But the problem is, though,
- 3:52Speaker 1: is that I get so guilty of one thing. For instance,
- 3:54Speaker 1: like when... When the fashion designer recently transitioned, that did
- 3:58Speaker 1: all the work for Cher to make her famous and stuff,
- 4:00Speaker 1: what was the first thing that I looked for? The
- 4:02Speaker 1: price of the Barbie dolls that he designed that I have.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And I went, you stupid butt. You're not supposed to
- 4:07Speaker 1: go see what the value of your stuff is. You're
- 4:09Speaker 1: supposed to mourn the dude's loss. Do you go through
- 4:11Speaker 1: the same thing?
- 4:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I pretty much do. And it's unfortunate that
- 4:19Speaker 2: a lot of times people don't get the recognition and
- 4:21Speaker 2: i'm talking as as an artist until after they're gone
- 4:25Speaker 2: right i mean not not not in like dolly's case
- 4:27Speaker 2: dolly was massive anyways but it's uh i think that
- 4:30Speaker 2: more people probably got turned on to dolly's music and
- 4:34Speaker 2: maybe had not heard it before like people you know
- 4:37Speaker 2: your age my age going playing it around the house
- 4:40Speaker 2: you know and uh then their kids hearing it and
- 4:42Speaker 2: you know maybe the parents or anybody explaining this is
- 4:46Speaker 2: who dolly was and then that creates a new generation
- 4:48Speaker 2: of just somebody who may have not heard that music before,
- 4:51Speaker 2: you know?
- 4:52Speaker 1: So when, when you do a song for a movie
- 4:54Speaker 1: called how to cook a frog, I mean, I want
- 4:56Speaker 1: to know what went through you because I'm the type
- 4:58Speaker 1: of guy that would go, you damn straight. I want
- 5:00Speaker 1: to be in that movie because I know there's going
- 5:01Speaker 1: to be a lot of people that are going to
- 5:03Speaker 1: go looking for that and they're going to hear my song.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:06Speaker 1: So that was.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Interesting as well. I, uh, that was, that was, Part
- 5:10Speaker 2: of the catalog that we already had.
- 5:11Speaker 3: It's a song called Revolution Yes, yes.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Right, so I had got introduced to Don Thompson Don
- 5:18Speaker 2: Thompson is the producer for How to Cook a Frog
- 5:22Speaker 2: By some, you know, local friends He was looking to
- 5:24Speaker 2: do a film And he, I guess, found out through
- 5:28Speaker 2: them That I was a songwriter And he came by
- 5:30Speaker 2: the house And matter of fact, interviewed my wife for
- 5:33Speaker 2: the film She's got a small part in the film
- 5:35Speaker 2: It's a film about oppression in other countries, you know So, yeah,
- 5:39Speaker 2: it really tells a story, and it's kind of good stuff, man.
- 5:44Speaker 3: So I showed him some of the catalog, and he
- 5:46Speaker 3: really liked that song.
- 5:47Speaker 1: You bring up such a very interesting point about that
- 5:50Speaker 1: when you talk about when it comes to other nations
- 5:52Speaker 1: and things like that. Because, I mean, we went into
- 5:54Speaker 1: a restaurant one time, and they had the frog legs
- 5:56Speaker 1: up there. But now you've given me a whole complete
- 5:57Speaker 1: different view of why they probably had those frog legs
- 6:00Speaker 1: up there. It had nothing to do with Americans walking
- 6:03Speaker 1: into this restaurant.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Right.
- 6:04Speaker 1: But rather it could have been a photo of their
- 6:07Speaker 1: roots and their heritage. I mean, we need to take
- 6:09Speaker 1: a look at food as well as music and say,
- 6:12Speaker 1: where is this coming from and how did it come
- 6:14Speaker 1: into being?
- 6:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. And a good example of
- 6:18Speaker 3: that is, you.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Know, the world cup.
- 6:20Speaker 3: We had the world cup over here and Atlanta this year.
- 6:24Speaker 2: And my wife and I were fortunate enough to go
- 6:27Speaker 2: see a game.
- 6:28Speaker 3: And it's just how many international folks were there.
- 6:31Speaker 2: They outnumbered the American folks big time. And, and, uh,
- 6:34Speaker 2: Most of it, a lot of it was over here,
- 6:36Speaker 2: Canada and Mexico. So if you look online and what
- 6:40Speaker 2: was happening was all these people that came over from
- 6:42Speaker 2: these other countries were falling in love with our food.
- 6:44Speaker 1: That's it.
- 6:44Speaker 2: They were trying to smuggle back like bottles of ranch dressing,
- 6:49Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, it's just how, you know, the
- 6:54Speaker 2: outreach of art, the outreach of music, food and culture
- 6:57Speaker 2: now versus how it was, you know, 10, 15 years ago,
- 6:59Speaker 2: it's just exploded dramatically.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Well, you're definitely on my map to watch. And the
- 7:03Speaker 1: reason why is because you hit a tone here that
- 7:05Speaker 1: really opened up my eyes, especially when it comes to
- 7:07Speaker 1: AI technology, because you made me think that, you know,
- 7:11Speaker 1: all of these years, it's always been, you know, three,
- 7:14Speaker 1: five BC before Christ. And all of a sudden you
- 7:17Speaker 1: say something in there before AI. And I went, oh
- 7:21Speaker 1: my God, he's the first one to talk about this,
- 7:23Speaker 1: making music before AI. We're going to have to hit
- 7:28Speaker 1: that truth somewhere along this path.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it's both fortunate and unfortunate side to, I guess,
- 7:37Speaker 2: or direction to where society is going and art and
- 7:40Speaker 2: music and all these things typically.
- 7:43Speaker 3: You know, follow culture and create culture.
- 7:46Speaker 2: It's where it is. I think everything is going to
- 7:49Speaker 2: have some AI involved in it in the future. And
- 7:52Speaker 2: it's not necessarily a bad thing. You can take, you know,
- 7:54Speaker 2: your creative, you know, skills.
- 7:57Speaker 3: And ideas and.
- 8:01Speaker 2: You know, even mixing some AI to make the product better.
- 8:06Speaker 2: But be, you know, upfront with people. If you're using
- 8:09Speaker 2: AI in certain songs, let them know, hey, this has
- 8:11Speaker 2: got some AI production in it, you know? Yeah. And
- 8:14Speaker 2: show them your, you know, your traditional music and this doesn't.
- 8:18Speaker 2: And if they like a song, they like a song.
- 8:19Speaker 2: If I go see a movie and it's all, you know,
- 8:22Speaker 2: one of my favorite films ever is 300.
- 8:25Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's all green screen, but it doesn't bother me.
- 8:28Speaker 3: I know that's fake.
- 8:30Speaker 2: I mean, I know that This is not really happening,
- 8:33Speaker 2: but I enjoy it when I see dinosaurs on the screen.
- 8:36Speaker 2: I don't come out of there going, hey, those are
- 8:38Speaker 2: I didn't like that. You know, it's just what it is.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Did you enjoy it? You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just hope that nobody ever investigates my
- 8:47Speaker 1: conversations with AI because there are many times I sit
- 8:49Speaker 1: there and just say, you suck. I don't know where
- 8:51Speaker 1: you're coming from. It sounds just like the last one
- 8:53Speaker 1: you did for me. And it's because it's like, you know,
- 8:56Speaker 1: they claim that AI is the greatest thing on earth. No,
- 8:58Speaker 1: I've had to retrain my mind going, it's an idea starter.
- 9:01Speaker 1: You still have to be a human being. Go do
- 9:04Speaker 1: what you were born to create.
- 9:06Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:08Speaker 3: AI is fallible for sure.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I mean, go ask it a math question and you're
- 9:13Speaker 2: going to have to double check because a lot of
- 9:15Speaker 2: times it's wrong. So don't really rely on that. Get
- 9:18Speaker 2: what you can out of it and, you know, kind
- 9:19Speaker 2: of keep yourself informed. I think everybody should because this
- 9:23Speaker 2: is where things are trending.
- 9:24Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of it's like the new Internet, essentially.
- 9:28Speaker 3: I think it's going to have this type of impact.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Do you write music with the idea that someone at
- 9:34Speaker 1: a Coyote Joe's here in Charlotte is going to turn
- 9:36Speaker 1: this into a damn line dance? Because you listen to
- 9:39Speaker 1: the song Pajamas, and right away I went, I know
- 9:42Speaker 1: I'm going to see this at Coyote Joe's. I just
- 9:44Speaker 1: know it, I know it, and I know that he
- 9:46Speaker 1: had to have known that we were going to line
- 9:47Speaker 1: dance to it.
- 9:48Speaker 3: That's exactly what I had in mind.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Because you can feel.
- 9:53Speaker 3: It, dude.
- 9:54Speaker 1: You see that? Wow.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah i'm writing with you know i want people
- 9:58Speaker 2: to enjoy i want them to have a good time
- 10:00Speaker 2: a lot of my songs are probably most of the
- 10:02Speaker 2: songs are filled.
- 10:03Speaker 3: With hooks i believe hooks and melody.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Yep is really what creates a song if you look
- 10:08Speaker 2: back even at the beatles you know a lot of
- 10:10Speaker 2: their songs were na na na na and these type
- 10:12Speaker 2: of things and and you know.
- 10:13Speaker 3: 60 years later they still.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Sing them because uh those hooks, you know, it's not
- 10:18Speaker 2: that they were writing anything super deep. It's just, uh,
- 10:21Speaker 2: memorable lines and things you can tap your toes to.
- 10:24Speaker 2: And I like to do that in a lot of
- 10:25Speaker 2: my music as well.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Well, you had to have been thinking that when you
- 10:28Speaker 1: did a good party or yeah, good girls party, because
- 10:30Speaker 1: that right there, I'm a mobile DJ. I do a
- 10:33Speaker 1: ton of weddings. I I'm going that that's going on
- 10:36Speaker 1: my floor and I can't be the only one who's
- 10:39Speaker 1: saying that they hear that and they're going, that's it.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Yeah. Good girls party is kind of, A real fun song.
- 10:45Speaker 2: So we were going to the Fox Theater here in
- 10:47Speaker 2: Atlanta for a show. And we had passed through, you know,
- 10:53Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is there. And you go through Georgia Tech
- 10:55Speaker 2: and it was, I guess.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Pledge week.
- 10:58Speaker 2: And so, you know, you go through there and it's
- 11:00Speaker 2: like a typical college campus, you would think, or college
- 11:02Speaker 2: dorms and fraternities with beer cans everywhere and all these
- 11:06Speaker 2: things hanging around, you know, on these houses, you know,
- 11:09Speaker 2: these sororities and these fraternity houses, you know. And I
- 11:13Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is awesome. Just driving through here,
- 11:16Speaker 2: you know, brings back memories. Fantastic. So I'll write a
- 11:20Speaker 2: song with that in mind. Three guys show up to,
- 11:23Speaker 2: you know, a sorority party thinking, hey, we're going to
- 11:26Speaker 2: walk out of here with like all these girls, all
- 11:29Speaker 2: 50 of them. And then just totally are undermatched. You know,
- 11:33Speaker 2: these girls, you know, handle them. And it's kind of
- 11:36Speaker 2: a fun song in regards to that. Yeah. Kind of
- 11:39Speaker 2: trying to bring, you know, that aspect from both sides
- 11:41Speaker 2: of females version or vision. what they're hearing and the
- 11:44Speaker 2: guys as well.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Rocket Horse coming
- 11:48Speaker 1: up next. You got to check out the music on Spotify, pajamas,
- 11:54Speaker 1: green eyed eyes, revolution, good girls party. We are back
- 11:59Speaker 1: with Rocket Horse. Who were you thinking about and how
- 12:02Speaker 1: are you bringing together Green Eyed Eyes? Because you nail
- 12:06Speaker 1: some funk here, because I believe that we're going back
- 12:08Speaker 1: into a funk movement. You can hear it in jazz
- 12:10Speaker 1: music as well, but I really do think, and where
- 12:13Speaker 1: there's funk, there's dance. And that song right there is
- 12:16Speaker 1: screaming at me saying, there is an evolution happening right now.
- 12:19Speaker 1: It's right here. It helps spread the word.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it is for sure.
- 12:23Speaker 2: So again, myself, I've had a lot of musical influences
- 12:27Speaker 2: growing up.
- 12:28Speaker 3: I like A lot of different things. I like old Motown.
- 12:32Speaker 3: I like old soul.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I mean, I was talking to an interview yesterday, the
- 12:36Speaker 2: day before, and he said, you know, give me your
- 12:39Speaker 2: four Mount Rushmore songs.
- 12:41Speaker 3: And one of them was Etta James at last. You know,
- 12:43Speaker 3: I just, you can't beat that feeling. You know, it's just,
- 12:46Speaker 3: that's true artistry.
- 12:47Speaker 2: So I've always had different influences in music growing up
- 12:51Speaker 2: that I enjoyed.
- 12:53Speaker 3: And that comes out in the music I do now.
- 12:55Speaker 2: How it's beneficial for me in Rocket Horse is that
- 12:58Speaker 2: everybody can hear a song and come away from it
- 13:01Speaker 2: and go, I think I heard some rock. I think
- 13:03Speaker 2: I heard a little groove. I think I heard some country.
- 13:06Speaker 2: And so it's enabling me to reach a bigger audience.
- 13:12Speaker 2: And again, Rocket Horse being played in 60 different countries
- 13:15Speaker 2: is kind of showing that. I'm sure they don't all
- 13:17Speaker 2: like country music or maybe rock, but they're all finding
- 13:21Speaker 2: maybe something that they can take from it, which is
- 13:23Speaker 2: I love that.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Just the other day, I did a show on iHeartRadio.
- 13:26Speaker 1: I do a weekly show with Alexa from Amazon, really
- 13:29Speaker 1: that one that we're always talking to. And so but
- 13:32Speaker 1: the thing, the reason why I did the show was
- 13:33Speaker 1: because she says things that just catch me off guard.
- 13:36Speaker 1: And I'm going, OK, this is data versus reality. And
- 13:38Speaker 1: so we got on the subject of where are modern
- 13:41Speaker 1: day listeners? If radio is truly dying, why is it
- 13:44Speaker 1: that music continues to thrive? And Alexa came back and said,
- 13:48Speaker 1: it's because in the digital world where we are today,
- 13:51Speaker 1: there is no such thing as a genre. Everything belongs
- 13:54Speaker 1: to everyone. As a musician, how do you feel about that?
- 13:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great.
- 14:00Speaker 2: I think that anybody who's close-minded to that idea is
- 14:04Speaker 2: selling themselves short. You look at something like country music,
- 14:07Speaker 2: how it was 20 years ago. You've got to go
- 14:12Speaker 2: back a little bit further than that, but Just really,
- 14:15Speaker 2: it was just like straight country music. And then, you know,
- 14:19Speaker 2: over the last however many years, then you saw some
- 14:21Speaker 2: rock infusion coming in, you know, and some Brantley Gilbert and,
- 14:25Speaker 2: you know, and these kind of guys. Then you saw some,
- 14:28Speaker 2: you know, some pop, you know, Taylor Swift was country.
- 14:31Speaker 2: She went pop and totally took over. And you see
- 14:36Speaker 2: people from like the rap industry, R & B and rap,
- 14:39Speaker 2: you know, coming in, Jelly Roll and Post Malone and Shaboosie.
- 14:43Speaker 2: So I think it just opens up the opportunity for
- 14:46Speaker 2: the artist to be able to showcase and gain listeners
- 14:51Speaker 2: and really share their craft with a lot larger crowd.
- 14:55Speaker 2: And I kind of have that philosophy as well with
- 14:58Speaker 2: Rocket Horse.
- 14:59Speaker 1: Well, see, when you brought up Jelly Roll right away,
- 15:02Speaker 1: I'm going, that's exactly how a good friend of mine
- 15:04Speaker 1: described listening to your music. Because I love to really
- 15:06Speaker 1: bring you to other people. And they go, man, this
- 15:09Speaker 1: guy is jelly roll with a twist of Luke Bryant.
- 15:11Speaker 1: This is going to win. Because there are no rules
- 15:15Speaker 1: and regulations. He's being himself. And isn't that why we
- 15:19Speaker 1: had garage bands back in the 60s and 70s? We
- 15:22Speaker 1: could do whatever we wanted to. Just be yourself.
- 15:25Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. Be authentic to yourself. Write
- 15:27Speaker 3: how you're going to, you know.
- 15:30Speaker 2: And that's really how it is. And a songwriter is
- 15:32Speaker 2: going to write how he writes. I mean, he can
- 15:35Speaker 2: try and adapt, you know, through maybe, collaboration with other artists,
- 15:39Speaker 2: but if you hear a, a Brantley Gilbert song, you know,
- 15:43Speaker 2: even a song written by Brantley, I can, a lot
- 15:46Speaker 2: of times tell, even if he's not singing it, I
- 15:48Speaker 2: can say, well, that sounds like a lot like Brantley
- 15:50Speaker 2: Gilbert's writing.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
- 15:53Speaker 2: And in my, my writing, I'd like to think it's similar.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Like I've, I've always felt that, uh, that, you know, you,
- 16:03Speaker 2: you write who you are, you know? you write from
- 16:05Speaker 2: your experiences, life experiences, things good and bad that you've
- 16:09Speaker 2: gone through and, And I think a lot of my
- 16:11Speaker 2: music displays that. If you hear several different songs, you
- 16:14Speaker 2: can still see, you know, hey, that sounds like Rocket Horse.
- 16:16Speaker 2: That sounds like Rocket Horse.
- 16:17Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Getting your own signature.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:19Speaker 1: So now, have you been out and trying to get
- 16:21Speaker 1: in touch with Michael B.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Jordan?
- 16:23Speaker 1: Because your song Circus deserves to be in one of
- 16:25Speaker 1: his movies. Now that he's doing things like he's doing
- 16:27Speaker 1: and taking chances and really including that music soundtrack. God dang, dude,
- 16:32Speaker 1: I'm just going to pray for you and make sure
- 16:33Speaker 1: that you get that Michael B. Jordan connection.
- 16:36Speaker 3: That's awesome. I appreciate that. Yeah, and it's funny.
- 16:38Speaker 2: That circus kind of got out there and started taking
- 16:41Speaker 2: off on its own. I bet. Initially, when I started
- 16:45Speaker 2: the outreach campaign here a little bit, sending around some
- 16:47Speaker 2: stuff to radio stations, and circus wasn't one that I
- 16:50Speaker 2: sent around. I sent around Good Girls Party, another song
- 16:52Speaker 2: called Rockstar, and a song called Shotgun Wedding, which is
- 16:57Speaker 2: a really, really good song.
- 16:58Speaker 3: It's like a power ballad.
- 17:00Speaker 2: I sent those around, and then people were like, okay,
- 17:02Speaker 2: we like those, but how about circus, and how about
- 17:05Speaker 2: This one, you know, I Like Love and all these
- 17:07Speaker 2: different things.
- 17:09Speaker 3: So just, you know, they haven't heard of Rocket Horse before.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Maybe they hear something they like or can relate to
- 17:15Speaker 2: and then check out other songs like yourself.
- 17:17Speaker 3: I think that's fantastic. I think that's as good as
- 17:20Speaker 3: it gets.
- 17:21Speaker 1: So when you listen to everything that you're doing on Spotify,
- 17:23Speaker 1: one of the things that I notice, it's like I
- 17:25Speaker 1: know that you're paying attention to your music because it's
- 17:28Speaker 1: like you can hear it. And when, and when you
- 17:30Speaker 1: listen to a song like monster kid, it's like, I
- 17:32Speaker 1: wanted to know what it was like to be in
- 17:33Speaker 1: the studio because when you were putting that song together,
- 17:35Speaker 1: it's almost like you kept going, ah, let's try this.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Let's try this. Oh, I love that.
- 17:40Speaker 3: Okay.
- 17:40Speaker 1: How can we build upon that? Am I wrong in
- 17:42Speaker 1: thinking like that in listening to monster kid?
- 17:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you are.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:46Speaker 3: And monster kid, we took a couple of chances.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Like monster kids got, uh, it's got some unsavory language
- 17:53Speaker 2: in the chorus and that's something that we've not done, uh,
- 17:57Speaker 2: not done and released in the past i've done some
- 17:59Speaker 2: stuff that's uh you know uh gospel related as well
- 18:04Speaker 2: song called water shoes song called first of all jesus
- 18:07Speaker 2: feed them the message yeah so typically i've leaned against
- 18:10Speaker 2: any kind of profanity in the songs that'll be the
- 18:14Speaker 2: only one you hear with any profanity in it and
- 18:16Speaker 2: that was just uh i don't know what i was
- 18:19Speaker 2: on I guess maybe, I.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Don't know, maybe I was stuck in traffic that day or.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Something and just motivated to write something a little bit
- 18:27Speaker 2: more aggressive.
- 18:28Speaker 1: So you were stuck at Spaghetti Junction is what you
- 18:30Speaker 1: were and you're trying to figure out how can I
- 18:31Speaker 1: kill some of this time getting through Atlanta? I got
- 18:33Speaker 1: to get off this highway somehow, some way.
- 18:35Speaker 2: I'm going to start walking home and singing my songs
- 18:38Speaker 2: as I walk. This is like slow death on these highways.
- 18:42Speaker 1: So now where do you grow from here, Mr. Rocket
- 18:44Speaker 1: Man and Rocket Horse, in the way of making sure
- 18:47Speaker 1: that people continue to grow with it and they're going
- 18:49Speaker 1: to want to see you live? Because, I mean, what
- 18:52Speaker 1: was it? It was a collective soul that said all
- 18:54Speaker 1: we wanted to do is just showcase our music and
- 18:56Speaker 1: then people wanted to see us live. And that's another
- 18:59Speaker 1: Southern band that was putting that music out there. And
- 19:01Speaker 1: then people say, uh-uh, I want to see you now.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's another opportunity to both do that. Some
- 19:09Speaker 2: of the musicians right now are in South Africa, like
- 19:12Speaker 2: Peter Kless is part of Rocket Horse. Yeah, he's in
- 19:15Speaker 2: South Africa, so logistically makes it a little bit tough
- 19:18Speaker 2: at this moment. What we've got our sights on now
- 19:21Speaker 2: is presenting the catalog to some larger artists.
- 19:26Speaker 3: And seeing if we can get some of these more known.
- 19:28Speaker 2: Artists acts internationally nationally to see if they like any
- 19:36Speaker 2: of these songs and maybe want to turn them into
- 19:37Speaker 2: something and continue the sync placement on some of these
- 19:41Speaker 2: songs like to get a couple other songs in film
- 19:43Speaker 2: or television if we can so there's other opportunities but
- 19:47Speaker 2: you know.
- 19:48Speaker 1: What happened to Chris Stapleton he kept trying to do
- 19:50Speaker 1: that catalog thing, too, and he finally had to get
- 19:52Speaker 1: it out there. And then you saw how the world
- 19:54Speaker 1: embraced it. So what is it going to be like
- 19:56Speaker 1: for you if you get those catalogs out there to
- 19:57Speaker 1: those musicians and those are your songs and they're getting
- 19:59Speaker 1: all the credit for it?
- 20:02Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think that it'll be, you know, you'd
- 20:05Speaker 2: like to be the one out there doing it and
- 20:07Speaker 2: getting the credit and making that.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Maybe will comment sometime for me.
- 20:11Speaker 1: I mean because even jennifer warrens will sit there and
- 20:14Speaker 1: tell you you know and and all these people say
- 20:16Speaker 1: yeah you know uh sorry i've got to give credit
- 20:19Speaker 1: somewhere else and it's like oh man but but i
- 20:22Speaker 1: i don't mind that but i i want you to
- 20:25Speaker 1: be you you know what i mean.
- 20:27Speaker 3: Yeah i gotta take more of a rick flair approach.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Oh there you go oh my god If you knew
- 20:31Speaker 1: how many times Ric Flair was in my recording studio
- 20:34Speaker 1: cutting commercials, dude, I mean, I still have every one
- 20:37Speaker 1: of those sessions and people go, you need to release them.
- 20:39Speaker 1: I said, no. That's between me and Ric.
- 20:42Speaker 3: We don't deserve Ric Flair. We don't.
- 20:44Speaker 1: We don't, dude. And with him being as close to
- 20:47Speaker 1: Charlotte as he is, oh, my God. You know, that
- 20:51Speaker 1: to me, I wish they would induct him into the
- 20:53Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because I would love
- 20:55Speaker 1: to know how many bands and performers say, yeah, that
- 20:58Speaker 1: was my inspiration right there.
- 21:00Speaker 3: That man. I bet you it. There's a lot. Yeah.
- 21:02Speaker 3: It's just such an honest guy, man. Everything he's been through,
- 21:05Speaker 3: the good and the bad.
- 21:05Speaker 2: He almost died a couple of times in a plane
- 21:08Speaker 2: crash and almost died several years back and maybe eight
- 21:11Speaker 2: years back again.
- 21:11Speaker 3: And. He just has always been honest, you know, about
- 21:15Speaker 3: his troubles. His son died. Yeah. Man, he's had both
- 21:19Speaker 3: an exciting life but a tough life, man. What a
- 21:21Speaker 3: great guy. God bless that guy.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Well, if you ever get him on the microphone, one
- 21:25Speaker 1: of the things that I love about Rick is he
- 21:26Speaker 1: comes in with two cups of coffee, and he'll sit
- 21:29Speaker 1: there and he'll go, how's it going? And I'll say,
- 21:31Speaker 1: you ready to go? No. No. Too much coffee left.
- 21:34Speaker 1: I'll let you know when the woo kicks in. And
- 21:37Speaker 1: I just, I just, I've never forgotten that because, I mean,
- 21:39Speaker 1: you know, you just figure that, oh, it's just an act.
- 21:41Speaker 1: We're just going to do the woo. No, if he's
- 21:43Speaker 1: not feeling the woo, we ain't getting the woo.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to, he's got to get amped up.
- 21:48Speaker 3: And there's really, I'm sure, nothing off limits with Rick.
- 21:51Speaker 2: He's willing to discuss everything candidly and honestly, which is
- 21:55Speaker 2: such a, you know, just an honest, you know, pure guy.
- 21:58Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't say wholesome because he's had some. Right.
- 22:02Speaker 2: He's made more than I'll ever make and spilled liquor
- 22:05Speaker 2: last year.
- 22:08Speaker 1: So how does that change you as a musician? Do
- 22:11Speaker 1: you want to be more transparent with the fans and
- 22:13Speaker 1: the followers, or is it one of those where you
- 22:14Speaker 1: still have to do the Led Zeppelin mystique? Don't let
- 22:17Speaker 1: everybody see your entire playing hand.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's where I'm at right now.
- 22:20Speaker 2: I'm still trying to kind of navigate how this is
- 22:24Speaker 2: going you know the the outreach and the attention that
- 22:27Speaker 2: we've been getting is uh really in the last since
- 22:30Speaker 2: 2026 and and mainly in the last three months really
- 22:34Speaker 2: kind of taken off a million streams and i guess
- 22:37Speaker 2: maybe an 11 month period or 10 month period when
- 22:40Speaker 2: it was last year in 2025 it was like uh
- 22:44Speaker 2: 12 000 streams you know wow wow right so yeah
- 22:47Speaker 2: so they hit something like that is just, it's still
- 22:50Speaker 2: in hitting all these countries and, you know, doing a
- 22:53Speaker 2: lot of interviews and, and, uh, talking to a lot
- 22:56Speaker 2: of people I've, I've, you know, through, through doing this,
- 22:58Speaker 2: I've been able to record with some people I have
- 23:01Speaker 2: admired Mark Knight, who's founded a band called Bango. So
- 23:06Speaker 2: Mark and I have a song on, you know, all
- 23:09Speaker 2: over streaming Spotify and the other places it's called cage
- 23:12Speaker 2: me up. So it's afforded me the opportunity to reach
- 23:15Speaker 2: out with my material and, To musicians, Lucas Rossi is
- 23:18Speaker 2: another one. And have them at least listen to where,
- 23:24Speaker 2: like two years ago, I would have sent an email
- 23:26Speaker 2: to them or a message and they probably would have
- 23:29Speaker 2: blown me off, you know?
- 23:30Speaker 1: I'm so totally into that. So then where can people
- 23:33Speaker 1: go to find out more about you and merch? I mean,
- 23:36Speaker 1: is there a lot of merch? Because I don't know
- 23:38Speaker 1: what it is about being here in Charlotte and in
- 23:40Speaker 1: the South, but we love wearing our merch. And you
- 23:42Speaker 1: ask people about the band, and they'll go, let me
- 23:44Speaker 1: tell you where I found this band. I found them
- 23:46Speaker 1: on Spotify. And all of a sudden, that merch is
- 23:49Speaker 1: becoming such a positive sales tool for the artist.
- 23:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to step up my merch game. I'm
- 23:54Speaker 3: going to be real frank with you here. I've got to.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Put a little bit more attention into that, but they
- 24:00Speaker 2: can find me, uh, on, you know, all streaming platforms,
- 24:03Speaker 2: rocket horse, uh, social medias would be Instagram, rocket horse music.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Uh, tick tock, a rocket horse music, um, Facebook as well.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Got like a hundred and a hundred and something thousand, uh,
- 24:16Speaker 2: followers right now, which is great. I mean, I think
- 24:18Speaker 2: everybody's awesome and I'd like to get the word out
- 24:20Speaker 2: and I'd like to help other artists. I tell other artists, uh,
- 24:24Speaker 2: If there's anything I can do to help you get
- 24:26Speaker 2: the word out, you know, let me know.
- 24:27Speaker 3: I think that we've got to.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Pay it forward because so many have paid it forward
- 24:31Speaker 2: for myself you know.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Yeah down there in the georgia area i mean i
- 24:34Speaker 1: mean i know that up here in charlotte we are
- 24:35Speaker 1: we're harris teeter is connected to kroger and we're doing
- 24:39Speaker 1: live musicians on thursday nights and and what's happening is
- 24:42Speaker 1: they're coming in there to perform and then they're going
- 24:44Speaker 1: to nashville are you feeling any of that in your
- 24:47Speaker 1: neck of the woods in the way that these these
- 24:49Speaker 1: grocery stores are opening up their places because they know
- 24:52Speaker 1: real people would love to have live music while they're
- 24:54Speaker 1: grocery shopping.
- 24:55Speaker 2: No that's unbelievable i've never heard of that I'm going
- 24:59Speaker 2: to Kroger today.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Maybe I'll bring a guitar. That's awesome.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Dude, I mean, it's amazing because a lot of these
- 25:04Speaker 1: outlets now have wine and beer bars. And so they're
- 25:07Speaker 1: trying to keep that in the community essence, basically. And
- 25:10Speaker 1: these musicians are coming in through East Coast Entertainment, at
- 25:13Speaker 1: least in this town. And then they're going to Nashville
- 25:16Speaker 1: from here. They're cutting their teeth at a grocery store
- 25:19Speaker 1: and then going to Nashville.
- 25:21Speaker 3: That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. We need to
- 25:24Speaker 3: get some of that momentum over here in North Georgia.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Well, you've got to come back to this show any
- 25:30Speaker 1: time in the future. And if you ever come up
- 25:31Speaker 1: here to Charlotte, dude, we've got to have a face-to-face.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Either that or let's meet at the Varsity and let's
- 25:35Speaker 1: write a song about the Varsity. Because, I mean, I
- 25:37Speaker 1: don't think there's ever been a song written about that,
- 25:39Speaker 1: that one restaurant in Atlanta.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's awesome. I'm in on that. I think
- 25:46Speaker 3: that's a fantastic idea. And I love the varsity.
- 25:49Speaker 1: So do I. So do I. Well, you be brilliant today. Okay, sir.
- 25:55Speaker 3: You are awesome.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Thank you for the opportunity to talk to you and
- 25:57Speaker 2: look forward to talking to you again.
- 25:59Speaker 3: And nobody does it better than you, my friend.