Latest / Brian Thomas / The "Smither-vent" - Episode 134 - Why I don't trust this mayor or council
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Air zeat Deep Talk Station fifty five KARC, the talk
- 0:08Speaker 1: station seven nineteen Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, and it's
- 0:11Speaker 1: Monday morning, and if it's Monday, that means appointment Radio.
- 0:17Speaker 1: When Chris Smitheman joins us and Chris Smithman, I hope
- 0:19Speaker 1: you had a great weekend, and welcome to fifty five KRC.
- 0:23Speaker 2: How are you, sir, I'm good, Dan Carroll, thanks for
- 0:26Speaker 2: having me on. Brother, always good to hear your voice.
- 0:29Speaker 2: I've been listening to the show and I just want
- 0:31Speaker 2: to start off man, just extending my condolences to Joe.
- 0:34Speaker 2: He lost his father and it's always tough. So and
- 0:38Speaker 2: his beautiful mother. They've married sixty five years and we
- 0:41Speaker 2: wrap our arms around Joe. So I just want to
- 0:43Speaker 2: start there on a.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Somber note, outstanding, what thank you?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Before I get into my rant, You're welcome, brother. Look man,
- 0:52Speaker 2: I want to just rewind and this is important, Dan
- 0:56Speaker 2: Carroll on issue twenty two. We've got to stay on
- 1:00Speaker 2: this like a dog on a bone. When city Hall
- 1:03Speaker 2: sold our railroad. Okay, I want to remind voters and
- 1:07Speaker 2: I just posted it on X right, all of the literature,
- 1:12Speaker 2: this big pamphlet that the railroad sent out. They spent
- 1:16Speaker 2: over five million dollars on the campaign, more money ever
- 1:19Speaker 2: spent on any issue campaign in the history of the city. Okay,
- 1:24Speaker 2: so they were dropping literature from an airplane across our
- 1:28Speaker 2: fifty two neighborhoods. But this one piece of literature I
- 1:32Speaker 2: just put up on x at vote Smitherman that shows
- 1:36Speaker 2: all of the promises that they said they were going
- 1:40Speaker 2: to do. What our infrastructure would look like, Dan Carroll,
- 1:44Speaker 2: if we just voted to sell three hundred miles and
- 1:48Speaker 2: our air rights. People don't even understand that our air
- 1:51Speaker 2: rights from here to Tennessee that we owned for one
- 1:54Speaker 2: hundred and forty four years. We elected a mayor from Dayton, Ohio,
- 1:59Speaker 2: who who doesn't give a crap about the city of Cincinnati.
- 2:06Speaker 2: How do we go one hundred and forty four years
- 2:08Speaker 2: owning a railroad and get a mayor that just says,
- 2:12Speaker 2: I'm gonna divest from this asset. It's great for us.
- 2:15Speaker 2: We're gonna get one point six billion. Where did they
- 2:18Speaker 2: pull that number from. This is a guy that cannot
- 2:21Speaker 2: even balance his old checkbook. It is unusual to have
- 2:27Speaker 2: your car repod and it's insane for someone to go
- 2:30Speaker 2: before the cameras and say, I didn't know. No one
- 2:33Speaker 2: comes and takes your car without warning you. I'm coming
- 2:36Speaker 2: to get your car, and they repoll it right in
- 2:39Speaker 2: front of the city hall. And this guy is the
- 2:43Speaker 2: one that's telling us, that's selling our railroad for one
- 2:46Speaker 2: hundred and forty four years that we own. We got
- 2:49Speaker 2: one point six billion present value. Dude. Land is incredibly scarce.
- 2:55Speaker 2: It's hard to get your hands on it. You don't
- 2:58Speaker 2: sell land that you own. It's just a covenant. I'm
- 3:03Speaker 2: a financial planner. It just is a covenant. You don't
- 3:07Speaker 2: throw away land, Dan Carroll, we threw away three hundred
- 3:11Speaker 2: miles of rail where we are receiving lease payments where
- 3:15Speaker 2: we're negotiating inflation in that lease payment. Those dollars are
- 3:20Speaker 2: coming to us in perpetuity. Right. This is an annuity
- 3:24Speaker 2: payment like a pension that we're getting every thing go year.
- 3:29Speaker 2: And that number would have hit sixty million. People say, well,
- 3:32Speaker 2: how do you know that, because when I started, we
- 3:34Speaker 2: were in seventeen million, and when I'm listening to the agreement,
- 3:39Speaker 2: we're at thirty six million. We would have been negotiating
- 3:42Speaker 2: the agreement within a year or two. It would have
- 3:44Speaker 2: jumped into the forties of millions, and that contract would
- 3:47Speaker 2: have taken us into the sixties of millions. Every thing
- 3:51Speaker 2: go year guaranteed, and we would have owned the land,
- 3:54Speaker 2: Dan Carroll, we would have owned all the air rights
- 3:57Speaker 2: where Alazona saying, I got my drug. You're coming over
- 4:01Speaker 2: our air right, you got to start paying us least
- 4:03Speaker 2: aments too. We're in a new world. And guess what.
- 4:06Speaker 2: The railroad knew that. And so they say they got
- 4:10Speaker 2: this three hundred miles and I guarantee you they will
- 4:12Speaker 2: be leasing out the air rights. They will collect the
- 4:16Speaker 2: revenue that we would have been collecting the revenue on.
- 4:20Speaker 2: I am so frustrated with this incompetent mayor, this incompetent council,
- 4:26Speaker 2: this incompetent administration. And here's the kicker, all the promises,
- 4:30Speaker 2: all the lies that they told us. Watch the Railroad
- 4:34Speaker 2: give contributions to the campaigns of those who supported them.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Out in the future, they'll be running for Congress and
- 4:40Speaker 2: you'll see, or they'll be running for governor and you'll
- 4:42Speaker 2: see the Railroad give them sixteen thousand dollars for their campaigns. Right,
- 4:47Speaker 2: these are the guys that sell as short and they
- 4:49Speaker 2: don't call it corruption. You can't make a connection. Oh no,
- 4:52Speaker 2: there's no connection between the contribution that they're making my
- 4:56Speaker 2: campaign and the deal that happened two years ago. Right
- 5:00Speaker 2: a year ago. I am sick and tired ofment. Here's
- 5:02Speaker 2: a kicker, you and I know more potholes. Our firehouses
- 5:06Speaker 2: are still going to be in trouble, Our rec centers
- 5:08Speaker 2: are still going to be in trouble. Pleasant Ridges an't
- 5:11Speaker 2: going to get some extraordinary rec center that they promised
- 5:15Speaker 2: on my ex on my ex account, where they said,
- 5:18Speaker 2: here are all the things that we're going to do
- 5:20Speaker 2: if you just vote yes on twenty two. Now we're
- 5:24Speaker 2: in the summer. Potholes are everywhere. We're all dodging them.
- 5:27Speaker 2: We look like drunk drivers out here. And if you'll
- 5:30Speaker 2: blow out a tire, you can't even call it in
- 5:32Speaker 2: and get reimbsed because you know it's not gonna happen.
- 5:35Speaker 2: This is what bothers me. And when I put up
- 5:37Speaker 2: the information on X, here come the Democrats. Oh Smitherman,
- 5:41Speaker 2: what's your plan? My plan was not to sell the railroad.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Old Smitherman, what are the answers that you at Dan
- 5:48Speaker 2: Carroll told you this was a very bad deal. Now
- 5:51Speaker 2: that it's unfolding as a bad deal, now they want
- 5:54Speaker 2: to say, Oh, Smithman shouldn't be talking about this. This
- 5:57Speaker 2: is really bad. You know, he really doesn't care about
- 5:59Speaker 2: this city say that no, because they want to sell
- 6:02Speaker 2: more these They want to expand the street car, and
- 6:04Speaker 2: they want to tell us that's a good deal. They
- 6:06Speaker 2: want to sell out water. They want to tell us
- 6:08Speaker 2: that's a good deal. We cannot trust city Hall. Stop
- 6:12Speaker 2: acting like these guys care about us as they sell
- 6:15Speaker 2: off every freaking asset that we have.
- 6:19Speaker 1: And my bent, yeah, no, Well, we are getting to
- 6:23Speaker 1: the point to where we are running out of things
- 6:25Speaker 1: to sell. And I would direct people not only to
- 6:30Speaker 1: your ex post here where you show the list of
- 6:35Speaker 1: promises that were and none of these have come about
- 6:39Speaker 1: to my knowledge to this time, about all the public services,
- 6:42Speaker 1: the health, the recreation, all these things that we're going
- 6:44Speaker 1: to be addressed by this, to my understanding, none of
- 6:47Speaker 1: this has happened. I would also direct people to the
- 6:50Speaker 1: excellent piece that was posted a couple of weeks ago
- 6:53Speaker 1: by Adam Taylor in the Cincinnati Exchange talking about the
- 6:57Speaker 1: structural problems with the real deal and how well all
- 7:00Speaker 1: these associated construction costs have gone up exponentially, but the
- 7:07Speaker 1: rate of return that we are getting on that money
- 7:10Speaker 1: is not keeping up with the instruction the construction costs,
- 7:14Speaker 1: and had we had the financial flexibility of that railroad
- 7:19Speaker 1: and everything that goes along with it, the city would
- 7:24Speaker 1: be in a much better look. I remember I had
- 7:27Speaker 1: you on the radio the day that I heard about
- 7:31Speaker 1: this exchange, this idea to sell the railroad. A lot
- 7:35Speaker 1: of people didn't even know the Cincinnati owned a railroad,
- 7:38Speaker 1: but I knew it. You knew it, And the moment
- 7:40Speaker 1: I saw this, I said, I got to get Chris
- 7:42Speaker 1: Smithment on record on this. And you said from day
- 7:44Speaker 1: one that this was not a good idea, and you
- 7:49Speaker 1: were in turns out you were right about it. So
- 7:51Speaker 1: Chris Smithman, stay right there. We got to hit a
- 7:53Speaker 1: quick break and we'll continue with the smith event on
- 7:56Speaker 1: the other side on fifty five KRC DE talk station.
- 8:00Speaker 1: That's a number of people who take the the talk
- 8:02Speaker 1: station fifty five KRC the talk station seven point thirty
- 8:09Speaker 1: one on this Monday morning, continuing with the smither Vents. So, Chris,
- 8:15Speaker 1: we heard about your take on the railroad. What else
- 8:17Speaker 1: do you have on your agenda for this morning.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Well, let's just finish this up, okay, because it's directly
- 8:24Speaker 2: tied Dan Carroll to the other things they are trying
- 8:28Speaker 2: to do, meaning meaning we now know we cannot trust him.
- 8:32Speaker 2: If you just go on my ex account and look
- 8:35Speaker 2: at all of the things that they promised they were
- 8:37Speaker 2: going to do, and let me remind your listening audience
- 8:42Speaker 2: that they tried, meaning city Hall tried to sell all
- 8:46Speaker 2: of our parking. This was a big deal, right. They
- 8:50Speaker 2: would have had us look like Chicago, meaning we would
- 8:54Speaker 2: have had no control over the cost of parking. Parking
- 8:58Speaker 2: is still high downtown, but imagine if we had sold
- 9:01Speaker 2: all fifty two neighborhoods of people could put a meter
- 9:05Speaker 2: right in front of your house, or they could charge
- 9:08Speaker 2: you a parking like, you know, a residential parking passes
- 9:13Speaker 2: for guests to come and park in front of your
- 9:15Speaker 2: house in one of your fifty two neighborhoods. Minnie, that's
- 9:18Speaker 2: what Chicago looks like right now. If you go to
- 9:21Speaker 2: anybody in Chicago and you say, man, what do you
- 9:23Speaker 2: think about parking costs? They would say that was a
- 9:25Speaker 2: terrible deal. But City Hall tried to sell off our
- 9:28Speaker 2: parking you know how we stopped it. We collected signatures,
- 9:32Speaker 2: We got a petition, We collected the number of signatures
- 9:36Speaker 2: needed to put on the ballot, and it scared the
- 9:39Speaker 2: mess out of them. It made City Hall blink because
- 9:43Speaker 2: they knew that if it had hit the ballot, they
- 9:45Speaker 2: would have lost. Then John Cranley won, right, that was consequential.
- 9:50Speaker 2: I also won. And there was a bond the issuance
- 9:53Speaker 2: that had to happen prior to selling the parking, and
- 9:56Speaker 2: we stopped it. John Cranley I was there the room
- 10:00Speaker 2: with Kevin Flynn. We worked it out and we gave
- 10:03Speaker 2: those who were supporting selling our parking the bad news
- 10:07Speaker 2: we will not issue the bonds, and that parking deal
- 10:10Speaker 2: died right there. But imagine if we had done that,
- 10:14Speaker 2: we would have lost full control of development and things
- 10:18Speaker 2: where our guests were coming in town. And then they
- 10:20Speaker 2: were also going to take control of all booting on
- 10:23Speaker 2: all cars to some third party that we didn't know,
- 10:26Speaker 2: and no one would have known where they were in
- 10:28Speaker 2: the world. The people that owned the parking in Cincinnati,
- 10:31Speaker 2: some hedge fund. We wouldn't have known anything about it.
- 10:35Speaker 2: This is what's going on when you say in the
- 10:37Speaker 2: in the first part of the show. Cincinnati keeps trying
- 10:40Speaker 2: to sell off all of our assets. I want to
- 10:42Speaker 2: remind our community and your listening audience that they tried
- 10:46Speaker 2: to do it with parking and it's directly connected. Dan
- 10:51Speaker 2: Carroll is directly connected to all of these decisions of
- 10:54Speaker 2: the budget that we have now, the deficit, their their
- 10:58Speaker 2: anti police mentality, how they are handling any issue that comes.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Let's let's expand the street car. Trust me, it's a
- 11:06Speaker 2: good thing to go up Vine Street to the University
- 11:09Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. All of these things are very bad deals
- 11:13Speaker 2: for the citizens of Cincinnati. And I'm just trying to
- 11:15Speaker 2: figure out what happened in the November election. What's the
- 11:19Speaker 2: disconnect between the fifty two neighborhoods, what I see, what's
- 11:22Speaker 2: in my lens, and what they're seeing. It's not about
- 11:25Speaker 2: whether they elected me or anybody else. The point is,
- 11:29Speaker 2: how did eighty percent of people vote for these people?
- 11:32Speaker 2: Guess what? Elections have consequences, and we're going to continue
- 11:36Speaker 2: to have these kinds of problems in our city if
- 11:39Speaker 2: we continue to elect people like this.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Well, Chris Minneman, this is something that's been going on
- 11:44Speaker 1: for a long time and Every time that we come
- 11:46Speaker 1: up to an election, we talk about the issues, We
- 11:49Speaker 1: try to get all the information out there we can.
- 11:52Speaker 1: There are debates that are on TV, and it just
- 11:55Speaker 1: seems that it doesn't matter. I mean, when only what
- 11:59Speaker 1: was the number lest election cycle, twenty percent, twenty one percent,
- 12:02Speaker 1: When only twenty one percent of those registered voters come
- 12:06Speaker 1: out to make their voices heard, then we are not
- 12:11Speaker 1: hearing all the voices of Cincinnati. And it's that it's
- 12:15Speaker 1: that small minority that is making the city run the
- 12:20Speaker 1: way it's that it's running. And I don't know, I
- 12:23Speaker 1: just keep wondering how far down the road we're going
- 12:27Speaker 1: to have to get with all these various issues before
- 12:30Speaker 1: enough people stand up and say this is not the way. Look,
- 12:34Speaker 1: so we want Cincinnati to be a vibrant, great, robust city,
- 12:39Speaker 1: and the way we're going right now is nowhere near
- 12:45Speaker 1: the direction that we need to go to make all
- 12:47Speaker 1: those things come to pass.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Chris mind go ahead and Dan when we pivot back
- 12:52Speaker 2: and we come back. The reason this is important in
- 12:55Speaker 2: the event is we're right in the middle of a
- 12:57Speaker 2: May primary. So this is a great piece of it
- 13:00Speaker 2: into what do we need to be thinking about in
- 13:02Speaker 2: voting in this election coming up in May. We're in
- 13:06Speaker 2: a May primary. Are we going to sit on the
- 13:08Speaker 2: sidelines again in the City of Cincinnati, in in our region,
- 13:12Speaker 2: or are we going to stand up and say no, no, no,
- 13:15Speaker 2: We're going to put up a good team to run
- 13:18Speaker 2: in November. And why I'm supporting the vek Ramaswami for Governor.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Chris Smitheman, stay right there, We'll get in one more
- 13:25Speaker 1: break and continue with the Smith event on fifty five
- 13:27Speaker 1: KRC the talk stations.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Nobody ever cast a vote for.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Amy fifty five KRC, the talk station, Dan Carroll for
- 13:38Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. Chris Smitheman joining us as he does every
- 13:42Speaker 1: Monday morning for the Smith event. And Chris, let me
- 13:44Speaker 1: ask you this. I think about all the serious problems
- 13:48Speaker 1: that Cincinnati is facing right now. You've got about what
- 13:51Speaker 1: thirty million in a budget deficit, You've got more millions
- 13:55Speaker 1: and unfunded liabilities. You've got potential huge payments coming out
- 13:59Speaker 1: to the former police chief in them and the fire
- 14:03Speaker 1: chief and all this other stuff going on. And the
- 14:05Speaker 1: headline that I see coming out of City Council and
- 14:09Speaker 1: City Hall last week is that City Council has now established.
- 14:14Speaker 1: It's first in the state of Ohio lgbt Q a
- 14:18Speaker 1: I plus commission, So I guess at least we have
- 14:22Speaker 1: that to hang our hat on.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Well for me, you know again, I support the lgbt
- 14:30Speaker 2: Q plus community. And this is this is this is
- 14:33Speaker 2: not about whether they have a commission or not. What
- 14:37Speaker 2: you're pointing out is we have serious problems that we
- 14:42Speaker 2: need to be getting our arms around. Why are they
- 14:45Speaker 2: focused on these what we would call wedge issues. It's
- 14:49Speaker 2: because it's election times. We're moving into a primary. This
- 14:53Speaker 2: is what the Democrats do. This is a this is
- 14:55Speaker 2: a strategic move on their part in order to garner
- 14:59Speaker 2: the support of those who are either supportive of the
- 15:02Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus community as I am, or to literally the
- 15:07Speaker 2: community themselves to say vote for our candidates, vote our
- 15:12Speaker 2: Democratic ticket. Here's what somebody just put up on my
- 15:16Speaker 2: ex account. Issue seven raised a county sales tax from
- 15:21Speaker 2: seven to seven point eight percent. The issue was advertised
- 15:26Speaker 2: using a reduction in the city's earning tax from two
- 15:29Speaker 2: point one to one point eight. The mayor now wants
- 15:33Speaker 2: to raise the city earning tax. There is no trust.
- 15:37Speaker 2: See this was the deal that we cut regarding Metro
- 15:40Speaker 2: in the bus system. I was a part of it
- 15:42Speaker 2: because John Cranley was the mayor. Now you have a
- 15:46Speaker 2: mayor that says I want to bust that agreement that
- 15:49Speaker 2: we had. We cut an agreement with the voters to
- 15:53Speaker 2: lower our income tax. And here comes the mayor saying,
- 15:56Speaker 2: we can't balance our budget. But we're going to turn
- 15:58Speaker 2: around to give Irish Rolli six hundred and fifty thousand
- 16:01Speaker 2: in a contract. We're gonna turn around to give her
- 16:02Speaker 2: another five hundred and fifty thousand a year ago, one
- 16:05Speaker 2: point three million dollars. We're gonna give money over here
- 16:08Speaker 2: to some music venue of eight point one We're gonna
- 16:11Speaker 2: go and settle a case for people who are riding
- 16:14Speaker 2: in our downtown for eight point one million. We've got
- 16:17Speaker 2: a police chief and a fire chief that hang in
- 16:19Speaker 2: the balance. You and I know that's gonna cost us
- 16:21Speaker 2: another five million dollars. And we give the city manager
- 16:25Speaker 2: a wonderful evaluation. He's just doing a great job. Don't
- 16:28Speaker 2: look over here. This is what's wrong with city hall. Brother.
- 16:32Speaker 2: I'm saying to you, anything that comes from this city Hall,
- 16:37Speaker 2: all of us should be looking at it suspiciously. That
- 16:40Speaker 2: is ultimately what you're putting before me. You're saying, Smitherman,
- 16:44Speaker 2: why are they focused on this LGBTQ plus thing, because
- 16:48Speaker 2: they want to distract us from all of the other
- 16:50Speaker 2: craziness that they're doing or not doing. I love Cincinnati.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I went to the School for Creative and Performing Arts.
- 16:58Speaker 2: My playground was downtown because that's where the school was located.
- 17:03Speaker 2: So I'm the former vice mayor, former chair of Law
- 17:06Speaker 2: and Public Safety. I'm appointed by the governor three or
- 17:09Speaker 2: four times on statewide commission. I know what I'm talking about,
- 17:14Speaker 2: and I am frustrated with this mayor and this council
- 17:17Speaker 2: that continue to focus on trying to get elected to
- 17:20Speaker 2: something else. They now want to be the county commissioner.
- 17:23Speaker 2: We got a mayor that wants to go to Washington.
- 17:25Speaker 2: He wants to be a congressional member. They're spending more
- 17:28Speaker 2: time in DC anywhere else but focusing on the business
- 17:32Speaker 2: of the city of Cincinnati. And I think, Dan Carroll,
- 17:34Speaker 2: We're just going to see more of this as the
- 17:37Speaker 2: weather gets hotter and the violence starts accelerating. They have
- 17:42Speaker 2: no plan. They have no comprehensive plan. You and I
- 17:46Speaker 2: know that now that the weather is going into the
- 17:49Speaker 2: eighty degrees that we know what is going to happen
- 17:52Speaker 2: in our city. The blood bath is on and guess what.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Where's the mayor? Where's the city council? Where's the Chair
- 17:59Speaker 2: of Law and with Safety? Where's the press conferences? Where
- 18:02Speaker 2: are the where's the plan? Working with atf the FBI,
- 18:06Speaker 2: working with all of our legal teams, whether it's the
- 18:09Speaker 2: Sheriff's department, whether it's working with the governor bringing his
- 18:12Speaker 2: assets in. We've got the music festival coming up, We've
- 18:16Speaker 2: got the Day Pride Parade coming up, We've got October fifth.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Where are the plans? We saw what just happened that
- 18:22Speaker 2: opening day. I'm saying to you, they're going to continue
- 18:25Speaker 2: to focus on the things that you raised. Let's have
- 18:27Speaker 2: a commission for LGBTQ plus. That might be a great thing.
- 18:32Speaker 2: But I'm letting you know they're trying to distract us
- 18:35Speaker 2: as we go into the may primary because they don't
- 18:38Speaker 2: want to focus on the issues that I'm describing in
- 18:40Speaker 2: front of them.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Well, that's just it. If look, if you want to
- 18:43Speaker 1: put a commission together for this sort of thing, knock
- 18:46Speaker 1: yourself out. But ken is it too much to ask
- 18:50Speaker 1: that you deal with these other issues in a serious
- 18:52Speaker 1: and a meaningful way, and based on recent history, it
- 18:56Speaker 1: certainly appears that it is too much to ask. And
- 19:00Speaker 1: whenever I hear any of these city council members on
- 19:03Speaker 1: the radio or see them on TV, it seems like
- 19:06Speaker 1: they all say the same thing. Well, we're really not
- 19:08Speaker 1: really sure what's going on at city Hall. We're just
- 19:11Speaker 1: waiting for the city manager or waiting for the mayor
- 19:14Speaker 1: or someone to give us some direction and then we'll
- 19:17Speaker 1: vote on something. It seems like it's the same song
- 19:19Speaker 1: and dance every single time. Chris, do you have time
- 19:22Speaker 1: for one more segment?
- 19:24Speaker 2: I do?
- 19:24Speaker 1: Brother, All right, brother, stay right there and we'll hit
- 19:27Speaker 1: that right after this. On fifty five station, fifty five
- 19:33Speaker 1: KRC DE talk station. Every Monday morning, the smither Vent
- 19:41Speaker 1: is happening on fifty five KRC, and I know I
- 19:44Speaker 1: try to listen to it every Monday morning, and I'm
- 19:46Speaker 1: sure you do too. And Chris Smitherman, let me ask
- 19:48Speaker 1: you a question. I was talking a little bit earlier
- 19:51Speaker 1: about Hakeem Jeffries, and he's complaining about diversity, equity and
- 19:56Speaker 1: inclusion and saying that somehow it's written in the content
- 20:00Speaker 1: Institution and he was at the event that was hosted
- 20:03Speaker 1: by Al Sharpton, and Al Sharpton is now saying that
- 20:07Speaker 1: it would be crazy for black people to celebrate America's
- 20:12Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. And now I guess he's
- 20:16Speaker 1: calling for some sort of counter celebration or something that
- 20:21Speaker 1: is only going to involve black people in this country.
- 20:25Speaker 1: How does that, how does that serve to further our
- 20:30Speaker 1: national reckoning or celebrate America the way America should be celebrated.
- 20:36Speaker 1: When you have a guy like this, it's telling black
- 20:39Speaker 1: people that, hey, you let you know, let those white
- 20:42Speaker 1: people celebrate two hundred and fifty years and we just
- 20:46Speaker 1: stay out of it.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Listen, I'll be celebrating the two hundred and fifty years.
- 20:52Speaker 2: I recommend that anybody in our country who's an American
- 20:56Speaker 2: to celebrate it and not to listen to that nonsense.
- 20:59Speaker 2: And those people benefit, meaning the people you're talking about,
- 21:02Speaker 2: like Al Sharpton. He's a multi multi multi millionaire right
- 21:07Speaker 2: off all of these issues. He's become incredibly wealthy off
- 21:11Speaker 2: of it. Let me say this to you, Dan Carroll,
- 21:13Speaker 2: because I'm on your your ex page. Daniel with one
- 21:19Speaker 2: with two L's car ar fifty four nine to sixty three,
- 21:22Speaker 2: and one of the posts you put up was regarding
- 21:25Speaker 2: birthright citizenships. This is directly connected to the Al Sharpton
- 21:30Speaker 2: conversation because Dred Scott was a free slave fought for
- 21:36Speaker 2: by Republican lawyers, meaning he traveled somewhere in the United States.
- 21:41Speaker 2: I believe it was Saint Louis and he said, listen,
- 21:44Speaker 2: I'm now free. It had nothing to do with people
- 21:48Speaker 2: entering our country illegally and having a baby and declaring
- 21:53Speaker 2: them an American citizen. Period. And so what you have
- 21:57Speaker 2: are liberal democrats. Listen, Black Americans who are listening to
- 22:03Speaker 2: this show right now. Here's where you have liberals Democrats
- 22:09Speaker 2: who are pimping out our history, pimping out our tragedy
- 22:15Speaker 2: of here. Dread Scott, a free slave, fought for his
- 22:19Speaker 2: own freedom right as an American, his American rights. He
- 22:22Speaker 2: didn't come from some other place illegally. He didn't cross
- 22:26Speaker 2: the border have a baby. He said, I am enslaved,
- 22:30Speaker 2: but I'm free. And he fought, and he fought, and
- 22:33Speaker 2: we had a Supreme Court. I think it was seven
- 22:36Speaker 2: to two, could be wrong about it. Maybe it was six'.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Three but The democrats that were. There The dixiecrats who
- 22:43Speaker 2: are a part of The Supreme court, said guess, What,
- 22:45Speaker 2: Dreadscot you're still a, slave even though These republican lawyers
- 22:50Speaker 2: right were fighting for his freedom. Period that's why we
- 22:54Speaker 2: celebrate two hundred and fifty years because we understand That
- 22:58Speaker 2: lincoln freedom with an executive order called The Emancipation. Proclamation
- 23:04Speaker 2: we know that The Fourteenth amendment was about us and
- 23:07Speaker 2: our freedom period passed By. Republicans it always kills me
- 23:12Speaker 2: when people come to. Me carolyn, said, man you're, black
- 23:14Speaker 2: AND i can't believe that of that you sound like A.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Republican it Was republicans that freed my great great. Grandmother
- 23:23Speaker 2: that's why she's. Free that's WHY i had the opportunity
- 23:26Speaker 2: to come up in a great country like, this make
- 23:29Speaker 2: as much money AS i want to as a, stockbroker,
- 23:32Speaker 2: right live a good, life send my daughter To. Seaton
- 23:35Speaker 2: i'm on the backs of those giants that worked in
- 23:39Speaker 2: those cotton fields right and fought Like Dred scott not
- 23:42Speaker 2: to wake up and see The Supreme court trying to
- 23:45Speaker 2: apply our worst moments of our freedom as we fought
- 23:50Speaker 2: to people who are coming here, illegally dropping a baby
- 23:54Speaker 2: and then saying they are An. American shame on The
- 23:57Speaker 2: Democratic party for pipping out a black community and using
- 24:02Speaker 2: Dread scott as their. Story come to our country, illegally,
- 24:05Speaker 2: illegally and we love. You. Period we want people to
- 24:09Speaker 2: immigrate to The United states Of. America Black americans aren't against,
- 24:13Speaker 2: that but we do not support people coming here. Illegally
- 24:17Speaker 2: and the last point make it very. Clear it is
- 24:20Speaker 2: not illegal for somebody to show an identification to vote
- 24:25Speaker 2: in Our american. Elections somebody Tell Al sharpton on the
- 24:29Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty years that has nothing to do
- 24:32Speaker 2: With Jim. Crow those were the policies of The dixiecrats
- 24:36Speaker 2: of The, south not The republicans who were fighting for Dread, scott.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Period these were The democrats who were pushing against our freedom.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Right those who said we would never be able to
- 24:48Speaker 2: attend public, schools those Weren't. Republicans those Were. Democrats those
- 24:52Speaker 2: who said we would never be able to ride a,
- 24:55Speaker 2: bus those Were. Democrats so don't ask me WHY i
- 24:59Speaker 2: sound like a report looking AS i am an. Independent
- 25:02Speaker 2: you know? Why Because i'm, Free Because i'm an Educated
- 25:06Speaker 2: Black american who understands his history and understands who exactly
- 25:11Speaker 2: freed my great great. Grandmother it wasn't The democrats who did,
- 25:15Speaker 2: it it was The Republican.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Party, well you sound to, Me Chris, smithman like a
- 25:20Speaker 1: guy who has for a long time now have the
- 25:24Speaker 1: ability to think for. Himself AND i think so many
- 25:27Speaker 1: people Like Al sharpton and like so, many so Many
- 25:32Speaker 1: democrats who find themselves in positions of, power they want
- 25:36Speaker 1: to convey this notion that you and others like you
- 25:40Speaker 1: are not able to think for, yourself not able to
- 25:43Speaker 1: do for, yourself not able to take the steps required
- 25:47Speaker 1: to be able to register to vote in this. Country
- 25:50Speaker 1: should we have any sort of qualification for that. Whatsoever
- 25:54Speaker 1: so it's just it's it is another form the WAY
- 25:58Speaker 1: i see, it another form of racism that continues to
- 26:02Speaker 1: persist in this, country and it helps to keep the
- 26:04Speaker 1: grievance industry alive and put money in the pockets of
- 26:08Speaker 1: people Like Al. Sharping But chris, smitheman we can.
- 26:11Speaker 2: Leave on that, Note Johan well, said follow follow, me
- 26:15Speaker 2: follow you ON. X i love what you're putting out.
- 26:18Speaker 2: There the Whole Supreme court peace on Dread. Scott i'm
- 26:22Speaker 2: sure it's going to come out this summer about. BIRTHRIGHTS
- 26:26Speaker 2: i agree with The. President you should not be able
- 26:29Speaker 2: to come to our country, illegally drop a baby and
- 26:32Speaker 2: be An. American there are too many people who come
- 26:35Speaker 2: here legally who worked. HERE i come from an enslaved
- 26:39Speaker 2: people who still love this. Country my grandmother who lived
- 26:43Speaker 2: to be one hundred and, five she came through a
- 26:45Speaker 2: time where she couldn't, vote but she still Loved. America
- 26:48Speaker 2: this is still the greatest place to live and out.
- 26:50Speaker 2: In by, saying if you don't like, IT i will
- 26:53Speaker 2: pay for a one way ticket for you to go
- 26:55Speaker 2: anywhere you, want just don't come. Back thank you so, Much, Dad, Carroll.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Chris, smithaman you're The we'll talk to you again next
- 27:01Speaker 1: week on The Smith. Event thank you so. Much and
- 27:03Speaker 1: with that we got to get to a. Break dank