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Awards Recap · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts right now. Welcome back to the three O take
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  presented by Sea Kick. This episode 490.
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  I'll be your host Kyle Korne. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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  Reyes. Nate.
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  Hello, You know what I was just thinking about when we were when
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  I was watching the countdown video.
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  New problem to have. You're going to have to you're
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  going to have to figure out the new video next year after the
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  All Star game. You're going to have to redo.
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  You're going to have to. You're going to have more
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  footage that in. That's true.
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  That's that's a good problem to have.
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  That's a good problem to have good All Star weekend.
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  Looking forward to it. Feels like it's far away, but
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  something tells me it's just going to, you know, that old
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  age, It just keeps creeping up, just shows up.
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  Next thing you know, we're in July of next year.
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  To be honest, I still got to, I still got to snag the tickets.
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  I still only have the Airbnb lockdown.
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  That's all right. We had half.
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  That's half the battle. You got to grab the tickets for
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  that, but we'll be there. We'll be in Atlanta for the All
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  Star game and I'm I'm very much looking forward to that.
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  That'll be good. I'm also looking forward to this
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  episode. Nate.
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  I've I was thinking about it today.
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  I was like, you know, here we are post award season and we get
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  to recap some. Some.
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  Pretty cool stories and I'm looking.
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  Forward to it. Pretty, pretty cool.
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  Pretty, pretty cool. We also, which I don't remember
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  if we mentioned this on the last episode or or at any point
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  before, but or you had alluded to it.
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  But that sort of A twist for this episode is we wanted to
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  combine recapping the awards from this week with a little bit
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  of look back slash reflection on the hot takes and predictions
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  episode from back in March, from before this season started and
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  do a little compare, contrast, see just how far off we were,
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  how how on to some things we maybe were.
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  With. Some guys with some things.
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  Most of it is wrong though. But we're going to latch on to
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  what's good. So no, but we're, we're going to
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  dive into the good, the bad and the ugly.
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  But so it'll be a little, little bit of a, an integration of that
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  into our just regular award recap talk.
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  But with that said, well, I'll leave it to you.
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  Anything you want to you want to share, or anything you want to
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  touch on before we dive into it? I, I think, I think this is the
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  new, I think this is the new tradition.
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  I, I think this is just how we go about our recap every
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  offseason. This is how we recap it.
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  Reflection recap. What are we doing for Ryan,
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  'cause we have Ryan's predictions, so we're going to
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  go over those a little bit. You got something for that?
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  I mean, I've got, you know, like what I, what I included in the
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  graphic. Yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll call him
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  out when I can. I didn't, I didn't write down
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  everything that he had, but what I included in the graphic, it,
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  it's there and it's, it's ready to be referenced.
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  So we can, we can include that as well.
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  And if you're new to the program, you don't know who Ryan
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  is. Ryan Ripken, friend of the
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  program, made his appearances on here over the course or has made
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  appearances on this pod. Many O appearances.
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  Many appearances over the last what, couple few years now at
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  this point but has been Mia. And admittedly, that's partially
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  on me 'cause I haven't exactly reached out to get him on the
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  show, but. Flipped from Oriole switch to
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  Raven switch. The the Ravens switch is fully
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  and they're they're kind of rolling this year.
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  So I think he's fully invested in the NFL at the moment.
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  It's understandable. It's understandable.
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  The Prince of Baltimore, you know.
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  Prince of Baltimore, we'll, we'll get him on here soon.
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  I know the people love Ryan Ripken.
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  Let's talk awards and we're going to, we're going to go.
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  I, I think it only makes sense to go in the order that the
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  awards were presented. So with that said, let's start
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  with the rookie of the year. How do you want to do that?
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  How do you want to do it? Do you want to do you want to
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  start each category referencing our picks or do you want to
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  follow up with that? Yeah, yeah, I like that.
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  All right, so rookies of the year coming into the season, I
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  had Evan Carter coming out of the AL and Yamamoto coming out
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  of the NO I, I will admit, I, I got, I think I got sucked into
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  the World Series performance a little bit too much and I that's
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  OK. I, I think I tried to ride that
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  horse a little too hard. I should have just acknowledged
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  it. You know, that maybe he captured
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  lightning in a bottle a little bit there and that's, that was,
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  that was great for him. But I I maybe I still had the
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  the Rose rose colored lenses on a little too long there when we
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  did our predictions. Yeah, that's understandable.
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  That's OK. A little, little recency bias
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  with the world champs. That's that's all right.
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  I had Wyatt Langford, so same team, same squad.
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  I'd Wyatt Langford coming out of AL and then tough look, I mean
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  Jung Ho Lee like he could have been if he stayed healthy.
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  Maybe maybe that could have been a thing and and we'll.
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  We'll find out real quick. That was a story with a lot of
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  these guys is I I think we were on to something with some of
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  these picks. But injuries just, you know,
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  injuries or or otherwise whatever, it just, and I know
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  that's a super easy cop out, but the reality of it is it's like I
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  would venture to say that had injuries not played a a factor
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  here, our picks would have been looking a little bit better.
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  But as I mean, if you're keeping track at home, very clear to say
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  that or clear to see that did not did not get either those
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  picks right. Paul Skeens coming out of the NL
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  that this ruffled some feathers. I mean of the awards that were
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  that were handed out this week that this you could make the
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  argument that this was one of the ones that ruffled feathers.
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  And maybe I'm giving a little bit too much credence to the the
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  rather loud minority that was San Diego Padres fans like you.
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  You were hearing a whole lot of noise coming out of San Diego's
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  camp, understandably so. I get it, Jackson.
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  That was my vote. I'm not not trying to take
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  anything away from what he did, but you would, you can
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  understand why that's where you would be hearing most of the
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  criticism from because you, you just have to take into account,
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  you just have to look at what he was able to do this year, like
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  was there from the jump. Right.
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  I remember like it was yesterday when we, when we were talking on
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  this podcast about their, their, I, I don't want to say going out
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  on a limb, but like they're making a decision, a conscious
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  decision to make this guy their everyday center fielder.
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  Like you just, you just don't. You just don't see that.
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  I love it. They committed to him the whole
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  year and it says wonders for how productive he was playing center
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  field everyday. I don't know how many games he
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  played, but I think it was north of 140.
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  I think he played a lot of let's.
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  Get a game total for Jackson. Merrill and hitting at the top
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  of a lineup that is like this is a go season.
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  I think that's what speaks to this even more. 156 games for
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  Jackson Merrill. Yeah, dude, that's my, that's.
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  Good for you, kid. I'm sorry, that's my rookie of
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  the year. That's not I didn't put that on.
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  I did. I didn't put that in my
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  prediction, but I I mentioned that last episode.
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  I I love what Paul Skeens did. I love it.
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  I just I going back to the like the Padres are going to go
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  season like a win now season like a push chips in the middle
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  of the table type season and it just happened.
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  Commit to a rookie and for him to jump to the top of the line
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  up and lead the way. Lead the charge.
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  So much, so many, so many big moments.
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  Clutch moments, sure. So like, I think he did
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  everything well. I think this is a little bit of
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  a robbery. I think this is a this is
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  unfortunately just he kind of fell victim to being stuck
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  behind a guy who was the number one overall pick and throws
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  cheddar and has a lot of spotlight on him.
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  It did well, did fantastic, did did really well for the time
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  that he he pitched. But like, I don't know, I think
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  Jackson Merrill outperformed him as good as Paul Skeens was the
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  Jackson Merrill. Won it.
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  I don't know if I I'm, I mean, I love Paul Skeens.
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  I've made that very clear since he got brought up.
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  Like I've I've loved falling just every step of the the
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  process here for Paul Skeens. But the thing about Jackson
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  Merrill that I absolutely love sort of a take away from this
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  year. Like you said, big moments,
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  clutch moments. This was not a rookie that was
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  at the end of the dugout for these moments.
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  He's not dapping up. The guy that showed up that
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  performed in the moment. He was that guy.
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  He was at the top step for these moments.
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  He was the one producing in these moments.
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  And that that's just I I don't. Think both sides of the ball
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  too. That's exactly and and I think
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  it's something that I don't think people consider enough
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  when talking about this is the fact that he is a rookie.
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  He literally like, you just don't come up and and do that
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  the way he did it at this age, Like people just assume that
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  once you're a big leaguer, it's like, oh, you're the best of the
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  best there. There's some truth to that,
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  sure, but it takes time. Some of these guys need to be
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  seasoned. And he came up and was just
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  like, I, I I might be all right without that, at least for now.
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  I'm good. I'm here and I'm here to stay.
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  That that was that was cool to watch.
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  But yeah, the Paul schemes thing.
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  Can we talk about the the awkwardness of the moment he
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  found out? Did you watch that video?
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  Why is this man a robot, by the way?
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  It's why does this guy not have a personality?
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  It, it's not awkward. It wasn't awkward to me because
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  it's just very clear that like this is the type of guy he is.
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  Like it it'd be different if he was a, if he was like a rowdy,
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  rambunctious kind of dude on the field that this is he's just
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  this all the time, all the time strikes out.
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  I'm sure he could probably go out and strike out 20 or get
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  rocked. You're going to see this, you're
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  going to see this outside. So if if he gets presented the
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  rookie of the year, year award, I, I see, I don't see how that
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  falls outside of that spectrum. So you're going to get this, and
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  that's what we got. I did see a lot of people that
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  beard more than just the mustache.
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  The full beard looks a lot better than just a mustache.
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  Yeah, yeah, You know, looking big picture though, here at this
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  race, you could say that and, and people were talking about
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  it. You could say that Jackson
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  Marrow fell victim to I, I, I'm not necessarily saying this, but
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  I did see it that Jackson Merrill fell victim to what's
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  turned into a sort of a popularity contest.
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  Where I stand on that debate, if you will, is that I, I do think
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  Major League Baseball is and I, I know that, you know, this is
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  like BBWA, whatever the, the sort of separate conversations
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  here. But big picture, like zooming
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  out, Major League Baseball recognizes that they have a
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  product on their hands when it comes to Paul Skeens.
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  And you throw in the, you throw in the whole Livi Dunn thing.
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  I know people get tired of hearing about that.
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  But you just the, the reality of it is you look at what's going
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  on in the NFL, Taylor Swift, Major League Baseball, and we
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  joked about it when this first got when this first started
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  developing. Major League Baseball is looking
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  at the NFL going, Oh, like, is this, is this how we do it?
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  Is this what we get to, is this sort of the, the games we get to
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  play and the narrative we get to push and the stories we get to
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  build? We like this.
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  So any opportunity and any opportunity they get to, to sort
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  of push that a little bit more, they're going to do it.
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  So I'm not going to sit here and, and and be the judge and
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  jury on whether Paul Skins deserved Rookie of the Year, but
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  that I I do think that that's sort of in play here.
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  Oh, big time in play. And I'll be honest, I had people
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  that don't know baseball asking me about him during the season.
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  So, you know, the fact that he's bringing eyes is, is a big deal.
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  It's big for the sport. So no knock on him.
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  I just, I think it's, I, I think Jackson mural is just a little
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  overlooked here, a lot overlooked.
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  The final vote breakdown, Paul Schemes received 23 of the 1st
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  place votes, Jackson Mural received 7, and then those two
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  just swapped numbers. Vice versa otherwise, Jackson
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  Cheerio received 26th of the 3rd place votes and Shodi Minaga
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  received four of the the 3rd place votes.
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  Respect on the American League side Louise Heel this one I I
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  guess you could say rock the boat a little bit there.
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  I mean, there were some some folks out here in the in the
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  Mid-Atlantic little upset that Colton Cowser wasn't crowned
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  Rookie of the Year, but. It was a rough second-half it
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  was and obviously 3/4 of the season he started off great.
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  It got ugly. All right, we have to pause
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  here. Bridge to Bucktober podcast.
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  I see you I I see you in the comments.
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  It's not even close guys. Schemes was way better.
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  I, I, I respectfully disagree. I, I may agree that that Paul
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  schemes was deserving to an extent, but I'm not going to sit
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  here and say that like Jackson, Meryl scheming would be involved
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  in this conversation like that. I think we have to stop there.
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  I think I think that's where we have to, we have to set our
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  weapons down, take a deep breath and recognize that like, you
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  know, there's, there's other other guys here in the hunt
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  other than other than our guy Paul Schemes.
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  No, back to the American League. You you can certainly speak to
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  the Louise Heal experience a little bit better, but I mean
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  credit to him for put up the year that he did. 15 and 7
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  three, 350 ERA LED American League rookies and wins, innings
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  pitched and K's. Yeah, I mean, I I'm going to
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  take my own horn here. I did a pre season Yankees
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  outlook kind of thing of like who to be surprised about or
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  like bold predictions kind of thing.
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  And I said Louis Seal is going to be a big deal, specifically
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  around the absence of Garrett Cole in the first half of the
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  year. And for him to do what he did
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  the the arm was electric, really good first half.
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  I think it happened how we thought it would happen.
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  It was, you know, coming off ATJ first year as a starter, you
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  kind of just run out of bullets after a while.
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  And so you get the phantom IL stints and somewhat limiting the
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  innings. But overall, like very, very
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  solid, like a very, if you watch him, if you hadn't gotten a
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  chance to watch a start of his watch it next year, you'll see
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  how live that arm is. It's it's special.
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  He's got some nasty stuff. But no disrespect to Colton
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  Couser. I just, I, I think he really
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  fizzled out. I mean, one could have made
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  arguments of Austin Wells. I, I think Austin Wells probably
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  had a better year than Colton Couser.
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  So that's just me. That's just me.
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  Definitely a better conversation on the NL side of things.
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  Definitely better competition on that side.
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  It was a graphic I was looking for, doing a little compare and
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  contrast between cows and Wells. Can't seem to find it.
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  But yeah, I mean, Wells was right up there in the thick of
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  things too. I would I would say not in terms
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  of the the, the voting breakdown, but just, you know, I
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  think it also helped the fact that the Yankees were where they
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  were at when it when it was all said and done.
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  But yeah, not not as much of A not.
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  Too exciting here. Riveting race if you will, but
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  certainly, certainly need to give him his props.
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  He became the the 10th Yankees player to win the the award and
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  was the first since Judge back in 17.
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  Manager of the year. You want to talk Manager of the
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  Year awards? Let's do it.
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  OK, going back to our pre season picks I had, oh boy, I didn't
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  put him in the graphic. Who did I have out of the
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  American League? I know I had Quattraro.
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  As. Did I?
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  Yeah, I do recall that. Did we?
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  We didn't match in both leagues, did we?
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  No. Who'd you have?
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  Oh, I had Craig counsel. Yeah, I had Craig counsel.
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  Yikes. Well, I had I had Katwaro.
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  I can't I can never say it. Quattro, Quattro better just
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  sound better. Quattro and then David Bell.
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  Tough look on on David Bell. Yeah, I at least went with a guy
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  that seemed at the time like AI. Was cop out This is spicy.
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  This was a spicy episode trying to bring a little spice.
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  The Reds, man, what a disappointment.
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  Truly, truly. I think Ryan had.
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  I think he had David Bell as well because he was pretty high
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  in the Reds. It's impossible.
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  Yeah. Yeah, he was.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Because I was the only one that was coming to the defense of the
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  Pirates. And for some reason, the Reds
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  were the team out of the Central that you guys were riding high
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  on, which didn't at the time, didn't make any sense to me.
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  In hindsight, it looks like I was right there.
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  Let's see here, let's, let's start with the where we at here.
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  Let's start with the American League.
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  No, let's start with the National League.
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  Pat Murphy received 27 of the 31st place ballots, the first
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  Brewers manager to win the award.
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  Crazy, crazy. What's crazy about this?
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  Tell me what's crazy about this. Crazy that council was in that
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  chair and one could argue one of, if not the best manager in
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  baseball. And the fact that he didn't win
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  an award there is pretty wild. So just interesting.
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  That's all pretty cool, but pretty cool that his replacement
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  said I got this and had a really good year.
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  Bruce had a really good year. Projected to win 79 games, they
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  went on to finish year 93 and 69.
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  That's that's a big deal. It's a really big deal.
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  That's good ball out there. Looking forward to it a little
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  bit. I think as long as they don't
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  have a weirdo offseason and it it it's trending that way, isn't
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  it? It's trending.
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  It's trending to have a a soft non non compile non compile off
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  of a Goodyear last year. Yeah or no, you're saying
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  compound off of last? Compound.
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  Yeah, like let's build off of this and there won't.
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  Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, They won't. I feel you.
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  Well, I mean this last year or I should say this offseason for
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  that reason wouldn't be any different than the other the the
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  previous previous off seasons we've had because they've
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  they've been in the playoffs they've made.
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  I hear you, I hear you. But I think this feels, it feels
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  different for me just cause of the youth movement.
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  And I would, I would, I would be excited about the core.
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  That's yeah, but but look at what's happening.
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  You're losing Willie Adamus. You're losing most likely, Devin
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  Williams. It's like it the the prospect of
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  of building off of last year is exciting, but I think reality is
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  is quickly setting in for the Brewers if it hasn't already.
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  Like it? I don't like it.
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  No, I mean, I agree with you. Like maybe try a different
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  philosophy this offseason, but ultimately you're not the, the
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  experience that you're coming off of is no, at least to me, no
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  different than the offseason that you've had over the last
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  what, 5-10 years even. Mediocrity.
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  The Milwaukee mediocres. The Milwaukee mediocres, not Pat
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  Murphy, though. Pat Murphy, good job.
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  I think. Job well done the rest of the
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  race. It's kind of interesting.
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  Mike Schilt received a first place vote, Carlos Mendoza
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  received a first place vote and Rob Thompson tallying 5 total
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  points in the entire race to Pat Murphy's 144.
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  Rob Thompson his his lone five points came from a first place
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  vote. And that was the vote that I
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  kind of laughed at. What right before we hopped on,
• 23:27
  I was like, that's kind of funny.
• 23:29
  But then I'm like, I, I, I get it from you.
• 23:31
  Look at what the Phillies were able to do this regular season
• 23:34
  and and just the the wave they seem to to ridden the entire
• 23:41
  season for the most part. It makes sense.
• 23:45
  But I don't know. I just was not left and I I know
• 23:48
  the the postseason doesn't play into it, but I just wasn't left
• 23:51
  with the greatest taste of my mouth regarding the Phillies and
• 23:54
  kind of out. We did talk about that and I
• 23:58
  don't know. Just like you can't talk that
• 24:02
  much because the Braves were like, so beat up.
• 24:08
  Like not just a little beat up, so beat up, you know, like, did
• 24:12
  you really conquer that division?
• 24:14
  It doesn't feel that way. I'm kind of out, kind of done.
• 24:22
  This this thought or opinion may change by by March then our for
• 24:27
  our next hot takes predictions episode.
• 24:30
  But as of this moment, as it stands right now, I'm giving the
• 24:34
  Phillies another year where I'm going to, I'm really going to
• 24:37
  ride that train. But after that.
• 24:39
  Why is no one here surprised? What are you even saying right
• 24:45
  now? What are you?
• 24:47
  Even saying no one's surprised. No one's surprised that you're
• 24:51
  not out. You're just.
• 24:52
  Giving. I'm going to give them one more
• 24:54
  year. I mean, let's not forget that.
• 24:56
  I want to mark this down. I want to mark this down.
• 24:59
  No, I, I quite literally preface this by saying this could change
• 25:04
  by March. I may be out by March.
• 25:06
  We'll see how this offseason goes.
• 25:08
  If they get, if they get real weird and they're like, we're
• 25:11
  good on boom, you know, and, and and ship off some other names
• 25:17
  don't make any significant signings, then then maybe we
• 25:21
  don't even see. Maybe we don't even get to that
• 25:23
  point where I give them another year.
• 25:24
  Maybe I'm out on them before opening day, Who knows?
• 25:26
  I'd like that I think. I don't know.
• 25:29
  I'm all done. You know who I'm not out on,
• 25:33
  though, is Stephen Vogt. I I think this was, this was the
• 25:38
  award. That I was.
• 25:40
  Award this I think this one was the one that got me going the
• 25:43
  most. I mean, what a what a story,
• 25:47
  what a pick. I mean, I hadn't even I hadn't
• 25:54
  even considered this reality. But I as I was reading into it
• 25:59
  more, they were talking about how the note I got here, Joe
• 26:03
  Girardi was the fastest person to go from player to manager of
• 26:08
  the year winner in 2006. He won the award with the
• 26:12
  Marlins after having played in the 2003 season with the
• 26:15
  Cardinals. Vogt finished his playing career
• 26:17
  on October 5th, 2022 with the A's.
• 26:20
  Just 397 days later, having no past managerial experience, Vogt
• 26:26
  was hired as Cleveland's manager and then goes on to win manager
• 26:31
  of the year. Yeah, fastest person.
• 26:34
  Ever. Let's go, let's go.
• 26:39
  I like it. I'm impressed.
• 26:42
  Sucker for a career long catcher going into a managerial role.
• 26:49
  Just the job well done. They went through no nonsense.
• 26:53
  Not sexy. Cleveland had a good year.
• 26:58
  He he's so transparent, dude. I love it.
• 27:01
  Like you know exactly what he's thinking.
• 27:04
  You know exactly what he's feeling.
• 27:05
  Not in like a not in like an unable to to keep his cards
• 27:11
  close to his vest kind of way, but more of like a he he's going
• 27:15
  to be straight up with you. He's going to if if he's feeling
• 27:20
  burdened by the way he's he's leading his team or not leading
• 27:24
  his team at that given point in time, he he's going to let you
• 27:27
  know and he's going to be, he's going to let you know like, hey,
• 27:30
  I got it. This is on me.
• 27:31
  Like I got to figure this out. And if the team's doing well, if
• 27:34
  it, if the if the staff around him it is doing well, if if the
• 27:39
  staff around him is supporting the players out there on the
• 27:41
  field and they're performing well, he's going to let you know
• 27:44
  that. Like that's where the spotlight
• 27:45
  should be. And that's just like you were
• 27:47
  saying, that's a lifetime catcher right there.
• 27:49
  That's just a baseball guy. And that's, that's about it.
• 27:53
  Like, I feel like there are a few managers in baseball right
• 27:56
  now. And again, this is this is his
• 27:58
  first go with this thing. There are a few managers that I
• 28:01
  feel like have that sort of transparency and that sort of
• 28:04
  humility that Stephen Vogt has. And it's been demonstrated
• 28:08
  throughout the entire season. It was demonstrated through this
• 28:11
  award process. And I'm, I'm just a huge Stephen
• 28:15
  Vogt guy now, like is. This what we is this what we
• 28:18
  hope for for David Ross. I think this is what we were
• 28:25
  like all rooting for on that side of it.
• 28:31
  Yeah, just that like that career catcher, that that backup role
• 28:37
  towards the end of his career. I mean, I can, I can literally
• 28:42
  still remember watching Stephen vote catching bullpens in
• 28:46
  Oakland. Like that's where I think about
• 28:50
  like that when you hear when you hear Stephenville, that's what
• 28:52
  you think about. It's just it's it's a good
• 28:56
  story. It's a good American baseball
• 29:01
  story and we're just you're in the heartland, you know, you're
• 29:04
  in Ohio, you're just doing what you can out in Cleveland, just
• 29:10
  out there in the land getting dubs.
• 29:13
  I'm here for it, filled on it. I love it, man.
• 29:20
  I love it. Yeah.
• 29:21
  Like I said, I think this is the one award that that I was most
• 29:24
  pumped about. And I mean you, you kind of say
• 29:29
  that this you could see this coming.
• 29:30
  I mean, I think, I think we all saw that this was coming before.
• 29:35
  I mean, a lot of these awards, I feel like we saw it coming
• 29:37
  ultimately, but. To be fair, we weren't far off
• 29:40
  with Mr. Quattro. I was just about to say finished
• 29:43
  in second place with 73 total votes to votes 142.
• 29:51
  Also fantastic here. Fantastic job.
• 29:55
  And then AJ Hinge coming in 3rd. So shout out to the American
• 29:58
  League Central man holding it down.
• 30:01
  All good stories. And I'd call me crazy, like not
• 30:05
  trying to go revisionist history here, but I feel like we were,
• 30:08
  we were sort of given props to the central at the start of the
• 30:10
  year with these, with these teams in particular, because I
• 30:16
  think we were I, I'd kind of gotten you, I think, and Ryan on
• 30:21
  board with the Royals a little bit.
• 30:23
  And I think we were sort of semi confident in the Guardians.
• 30:29
  And then we were talking at least at least coming into this
• 30:32
  year. And I think even a little bit
• 30:33
  last year, we were, we were talking about how the Tigers, I
• 30:37
  feel like we're knocking on the door and it it wasn't, it wasn't
• 30:41
  the the most traditional route to get there, but they, I think
• 30:46
  they ended up where they were hoping to, to end up this year.
• 30:49
  So shout out to the shout out to the Central.
• 30:53
  You want to talk Cy Young? Let's talk Cy Young.
• 31:00
  I only. Got 1 right?
• 31:04
  You did get one right. That's correct.
• 31:06
  Yeah, Our, our picks, our picks coming into this year, I had
• 31:13
  Kevin, Kevin Gosman coming out of the AL and Zach Wheeler.
• 31:18
  Oh, we're going to, we're going to touch on this Zach Wheeler
• 31:21
  thing. And you had Spencer Strider out
• 31:24
  of the NL and Tarek Scubble out of the AL.
• 31:29
  Credit to you. I still to this day, I, I don't
• 31:34
  know where the Tarek Scubble for Cy Young campaign came from in
• 31:39
  the preseason because it came from me.
• 31:41
  I started it. It was everywhere.
• 31:45
  I'm going stop. It was I, I it just didn't make
• 31:50
  sense. I'm like, I know he's he's seen
• 31:52
  success coming like he he's bringing a a a decent body work
• 31:58
  into the the 2024 campaign. But I'm looking around and he's
• 32:03
  like favorited in certain polls and and tallies.
• 32:07
  And then he's right up there with right in there in the mix
• 32:09
  with coal and everything. And I'm going I feel like coal
• 32:13
  is just a perennial write in. But all of a sudden Terek
• 32:16
  Schuble is taken over the headlines.
• 32:18
  So I it just, I don't know, like why the baseball world decided
• 32:22
  that this was the year that we were going to descend on Terek
• 32:25
  Schuble winning the Cy Young and it, it panned out that way, so.
• 32:28
  I could argue. I know Ball, you know.
• 32:31
  You know, you know ball when it comes to, I mean, outside of the
• 32:35
  American League, Cy Young, it's up for debate.
• 32:37
  But when it comes to the American League, Cy Young, you
• 32:39
  know, ball. I'm here.
• 32:41
  You can count on, you can count on Nate Nate's your guy.
• 32:44
  If you need to know the American League, Cy Young is he's he's
• 32:47
  got you. Did you, did you see the TikTok
• 32:50
  of well, video? I don't know if it's on
• 32:52
  Instagram. Like the video after he won, it
• 32:56
  was like a whole thing, dude. Yeah, it was like a whole thing.
• 32:58
  I think it was his birthday. His girlfriend bought him a new
• 33:01
  car. Which it's kind of wild.
• 33:05
  Wild. Can we talk about that for a
• 33:06
  SEC? With his credit card, I bet you
• 33:09
  know it's. Just I would imagine, yeah, I, I
• 33:11
  don't know how I'd feel about somebody buying me a car, you
• 33:13
  know, like that's a like my. Wife buying me shoes.
• 33:17
  Right. It's like not a pair, we're
• 33:19
  good. It's not, yeah.
• 33:20
  It's not a pair of jeans where it's like, yeah, I mean, I'm not
• 33:23
  like wild about it. So like worst case you just
• 33:24
  return it. But that's like a car, Like I'm
• 33:26
  it's a car. You're kind of kind of stuck
• 33:29
  with that. You're not going to return a
• 33:30
  car, but I'm sure they talked about it and she already knew.
• 33:34
  But still, just the IT. The thought of that made me a
• 33:38
  little like. And then you got the happy
• 33:41
  birthday singing, you know. Got the happy birthday I think.
• 33:44
  I think I saw him Outback. He was popping champagne.
• 33:47
  Losing, man, those are some. That's a squad.
• 33:49
  His boys just getting the champagne shower going for him.
• 33:52
  That's a good day. You know, win some hardware, get
• 33:58
  a new car. On your birthday.
• 34:00
  On your birthday, got the lady there, got the boys there.
• 34:04
  It's a good day. Unanimous 30 of the 31st place
• 34:08
  picks, coming in at 210 total points.
• 34:11
  A Triple Crown winner, as was his National League counterpart
• 34:16
  Chris Sale. But Terek Schuble, what a year.
• 34:22
  What's a? Year 1 could argue I was close.
• 34:27
  I had Strider, same team, you know, there was something
• 34:30
  cooking there with the Cy Young picks.
• 34:33
  I mean, ultimately the spot that that sale like stepped into, not
• 34:38
  that not a spot that people were expecting him to fill, given
• 34:42
  just, you know, the, the the back story from Boston and and
• 34:46
  you know, what are we going to get here?
• 34:47
  But once he made it clear that like, no, I'm good, I'm healthy.
• 34:51
  I'm I'm I'm here to win baseball games.
• 34:53
  And it's like, OK, this is what Spencer Strider was supposed to
• 34:56
  be this year. And that was a cool, that was a
• 34:59
  cool storyline narrative to follow in and of itself.
• 35:03
  But but but this school thing, like I said, I just don't know
• 35:13
  where this came from, but it was it was cool to witness And just
• 35:18
  another tip of the cap to the central man.
• 35:20
  I mean, you look at the you look at the, the, the vote tallies
• 35:25
  for the, for the Sion coming out of the Ale Terry school with the
• 35:28
  Tiger, Seth Lugo coming in second with the Royals, Emmanuel
• 35:31
  Class A coming in 3rd Cole Reagan's coming in fourth.
• 35:36
  I mean, I mean, Kate Smith's even on here, he got a, he got
• 35:40
  a, a fifth place. Vote.
• 35:42
  Sure, sure. I think the AL Central is like
• 35:50
  it's here to stay, too. I don't think it's going
• 35:52
  anywhere. I don't think this was a fluky
• 35:54
  year. Thank you.
• 35:55
  You can say say the same thing about school when 18 and 18 and
• 35:59
  four this year. AL best 239 ERA and then ERA
• 36:04
  plus of 170 also. Imagine if they had one more
• 36:07
  starter for the postseason. You know what that could have
• 36:11
  done for them. That would have been, ventures,
• 36:14
  say, a different outcome. Yeah, I agree.
• 36:16
  And also LED all of baseball with 228 strikeouts and 192
• 36:21
  innings. Heck of a year for school.
• 36:25
  Man, got to love it. Kudos to you.
• 36:28
  Kudos to you for the pick. A. 192.
• 36:35
  That's the new 220, I think, maybe 2215.
• 36:41
  Safe bet. Yeah, unfortunately it's all
• 36:44
  good though. Dude's a dog though.
• 36:45
  He's going to go out there and give innings.
• 36:50
  Speaking of a guy that was able to give you some innings, Chris
• 36:53
  Sale out of the National League, let me let me can I amend what I
• 37:03
  said about the Stephen Vote Award being the one that got me
• 37:05
  the most fired up? That's got you the most fired
• 37:07
  up. I'd say it's about a tie.
• 37:11
  And I feel like that's fair because you got you got a
• 37:14
  managerial position and an actual player.
• 37:18
  So equally I, I, I feel like these both got me fired up.
• 37:21
  And I know that might confuse a lot of people like, oh, aren't
• 37:23
  you just like, aren't you just bitter?
• 37:25
  Aren't you just pissed about the fact that you lost this guy?
• 37:28
  This was always going to be what happened.
• 37:31
  Sure. I'm not going to say, I'm not
• 37:33
  going to try to rewrite history and say like, oh, we knew he was
• 37:36
  going to win the the Cy Young, but anything, anything that he
• 37:42
  did was going to be better in Atlanta than what had that with
• 37:45
  with the way things shook out at the end of his tenure with
• 37:49
  Boston. So in that regard, I'm not
• 37:52
  surprised. Am I surprised at the the
• 37:54
  fashion which he dominated this year?
• 37:58
  I'd say a little bit. I didn't see this coming and.
• 38:01
  I think we saw like a solid middle of the rotation kind of
• 38:05
  guy, not. And that's if you stayed
• 38:08
  healthy. That was the big, the big, you
• 38:10
  know, caveat there. But just like I said, Triple
• 38:14
  Crown gave you the starts, gave you the innings.
• 38:19
  And when he was out there, he was back to his old self.
• 38:23
  And it's it was so cool to be reminded of the fact that like
• 38:29
  this isn't a guy that has a trophy case full of these.
• 38:32
  Like this was this was his first with the career, the body of
• 38:37
  work that he's given you over the course of his career.
• 38:40
  It's a good resume. Like ignoring injuries, you go
• 38:44
  back to his more dominant days like in Chicago and his early
• 38:48
  stretch there in Boston. The fact that he does he didn't
• 38:52
  have a Cy Young up to this point, just crazy.
• 38:54
  And then you we get the quote today, I don't know if you saw
• 38:57
  it, but he apparently was had considered retiring before he
• 39:01
  was traded to Atlanta, which. Insane.
• 39:05
  Good thing he didn't. I don't know, that's a good
• 39:07
  baseball story right there. It's a good baseball story.
• 39:11
  The 1 lone bright spot going on in Atlanta.
• 39:17
  So you know, even when you have a tough year, you still have
• 39:21
  something to brag about. Got a note here?
• 39:24
  According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Sale is the first
• 39:28
  pitcher ever to have five top five finishes in Sion voting
• 39:32
  prior to winning the award for the first time.
• 39:34
  He's also just a 6th pitcher to win the award for the first time
• 39:38
  after turning 35. Yeah, still got a lot left in
• 39:44
  the tank. I think this could play, you
• 39:48
  could see like a mid to late 30s Nathan Ievaldi type trajectory.
• 39:55
  What do you think of that? Well, Ievaldi's younger than
• 40:01
  Sale though. Is he?
• 40:03
  I thought he was like 37. No, he's 34.
• 40:09
  He's younger than Sale. All right, let's find a new
• 40:11
  comp. I get what you're saying though,
• 40:13
  like a a resurgence. I I I get, I I track with what
• 40:18
  you're what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, like
• 40:21
  Chris Sale had a lot of hype downfall.
• 40:25
  Now we're coming back up. Nathan Ivaldi was like, no one
• 40:28
  knows who you were, struggled for a few years, took off.
• 40:33
  You know, I don't have any other comps that come in mind.
• 40:40
  The trajectory, we can't go like Verlander, Scherzer type
• 40:43
  conversations, You know, they've been dominate their whole
• 40:45
  career. Yeah.
• 40:46
  No, no, no. And again, I, I have no doubt
• 40:50
  that if he would have stayed healthy that that would have
• 40:53
  been the case for him as well. Like I don't I, I.
• 40:56
  Oh yeah, he he's got the stuff for it.
• 40:58
  Yeah, exactly. He's not the type of guy that's
• 41:01
  going to struggle to find stuff at a low in his career.
• 41:05
  Like this is just going to be a guy that goes out there, has the
• 41:07
  best stuff that night when he's on the mound and is going to be
• 41:10
  better than the guy that he's going up against every single
• 41:14
  night. But when you're not healthy,
• 41:15
  you're not available. They say hear all the time your
• 41:18
  best or the best ability is your availability.
• 41:20
  If you're not able to go out there, sorry, like I, we can't
• 41:27
  put you in these same conversations as guys like
• 41:29
  Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, because you're just not out
• 41:31
  there. Yeah, I think his success makes
• 41:38
  it a lot easier for the Braves to let Max Fried go now.
• 41:43
  Again, he hasn't signed anywhere yet, but like I think he's
• 41:47
  elsewhere. I don't see him going back to
• 41:50
  Atlanta. No, he's.
• 41:51
  He's out. So I think this makes things a
• 41:53
  lot easier and it was a buy low. I mean, there was this was a
• 41:56
  high a high risk or a low risk, high reward type thing.
• 42:02
  And it paid off big time for the Braves.
• 42:06
  Smart, smart general managing per huge.
• 42:17
  That's both. Cy Young's MVP Fresh off the
• 42:23
  announcements tonight, the. Least surprising.
• 42:28
  This was decided four months ago.
• 42:32
  This was decided in June or July I think.
• 42:35
  Which which brings up an interesting point and I, I sort
• 42:38
  of hinted at it earlier, but more like broader picture here.
• 42:44
  Is it just me or are there just not really any more surprises
• 42:50
  when it comes to these awards? I don't know if it's just
• 42:53
  because of the attention given to or or the accessibility or
• 42:57
  the media. Coverage.
• 42:58
  That's what it is. Or what it is, but it's like we
• 43:00
  get to award the the, the week of the award announcements and
• 43:04
  it's like we've dissected this from every angle and there's
• 43:08
  really only one or two ways to look at it.
• 43:12
  And both of those ways point to player X winning this thing.
• 43:15
  So it's like. Yeah, dude.
• 43:18
  I mean, look, like we have, we pay attention to numbers more
• 43:21
  than we ever have. And like you said, the
• 43:23
  accessibility of media, of coverage of social media, like
• 43:27
  we, we get to watch, you know, MLBTV like awards when we were,
• 43:33
  you know, 10-15 years younger, it was a little bit of a
• 43:37
  surprise. Now it's like we're able to
• 43:39
  watch more and, and experience more that.
• 43:44
  And that's kind of my beef with the timing of this.
• 43:50
  Let's go ahead and release this before the World Series.
• 43:54
  Let's take that lull that we have after the championship
• 43:57
  series in the World Series and let's inject this because that
• 44:02
  voting is already done. It's already done.
• 44:05
  This is a scheduled release. The voting is done before the
• 44:09
  the postseason even begins. So for anyone out there that's
• 44:13
  unfamiliar, like if you were like, oh, where's you know, the
• 44:16
  postseason bias here, that has nothing to do with it because
• 44:18
  the voting was already in. Release it sooner.
• 44:22
  For me personally, I'm, I'm like all around, I'm move, I'm moving
• 44:27
  past 2024. Like I'm already kind of, we're
• 44:30
  talking free agents. We're kind of, you know,
• 44:33
  daydreaming about new players on new teams, you know, new
• 44:36
  transactions for your favorite teams.
• 44:38
  Like I'm kind of done with 20. This was this was the last
• 44:41
  domino to fall. Right.
• 44:43
  I'm all done. So it's like I, I just, I don't
• 44:46
  see the point of hanging on this late to release this stuff, put
• 44:52
  it right before the World Series and maximize the hype of
• 44:55
  baseball at that time. Look at how this World Series
• 44:59
  would have gone if you have the like MVP winners coming into the
• 45:04
  World Series to face one another.
• 45:06
  But instead, you have your broadcasters kind of tiptoeing
• 45:09
  around what will probably be the MVP of the AL versus what will
• 45:13
  probably be the like, don't they?
• 45:16
  Knew. We all knew Ohtani knew Judge.
• 45:19
  Knew maximize it like give it a. Little bit of the the college
• 45:24
  football flair where you get the Heisman potentially in the
• 45:28
  national championship game like that.
• 45:30
  That's way better. Or sprinkle in a sigh, young or
• 45:33
  two, like come on. Could could very much release
• 45:38
  this before the World Series. I just, I don't see any benefit
• 45:43
  to doing it. Like forget, OK, say, say it has
• 45:49
  to be after the World Series. Fine.
• 45:52
  Why are we waiting the week before Thanksgiving to do this?
• 45:57
  All right, I've I've moved on, moved on.
• 46:00
  Like I just want to be, like you said, I want to be able to look
• 46:02
  ahead to 2025, like, OK, where's Freed going to go?
• 46:05
  What how long is how long is Soto's contract going to be?
• 46:08
  Stuff like that. But now it's like, OK, we just
• 46:11
  got to got to wait to close this last door on the on the 2024
• 46:15
  season before we can look ahead. I mean, it, it is what it is.
• 46:19
  I'm not I'm not going to get like genuinely upset about it,
• 46:21
  but it just it seems like an easy miss or an easy win, I
• 46:25
  should say, for Major League Baseball.
• 46:28
  Had they decided or or if they were to do this before the post
• 46:34
  season rolled around? I don't know it just.
• 46:37
  I hear you. That make any sense, but I I'm
• 46:39
  not going to get all that worked up about it, but Shohei Otani
• 46:42
  and Judge as we mentioned unanimous winners in their
• 46:47
  respective. Leads, I don't know how deep.
• 46:49
  I mean, how deep do we really need to get?
• 46:51
  Like, I think everyone listening to this knows the type of years
• 46:56
  they had. You know, like, this is two of
• 46:59
  the best years. And I get that that's probably
• 47:03
  something you can say about an MVP every year, but these were
• 47:07
  truly like some of the best offensive years we've ever
• 47:12
  witnessed. I think I saw our guy Justin
• 47:20
  Havens tweet out. I know you like his his Nuggets
• 47:23
  from time to time. I think I saw him tweet
• 47:25
  something out to the effect of by OPS.
• 47:28
  Plus, I want to say he said this was the best for Judge, that
• 47:33
  this was the best offensive season of all time.
• 47:36
  Yeah, I mean I. Think.
• 47:37
  I think that's what he said. The OPS joined crazy company,
• 47:45
  crazy company to have a career thousand OPS and then it's just
• 47:54
  like these numbers that he puts up throughout the year just kind
• 47:59
  of continues to build it. But this year was great.
• 48:02
  I mean is better than the 62 year in my mind just because of
• 48:08
  him hitting over 300 is a big deal.
• 48:10
  Like what did he finish at? It was like 322 or something
• 48:15
  like that, 318. You're talking judge.
• 48:18
  Yeah. What did he finish at 3:22?
• 48:26
  22 yeah, yeah, dude. And I mean like the the bombs
• 48:33
  are there. I've I'm still pro RB is I'm
• 48:37
  still in that camp. I'm not moving.
• 48:42
  Camp's getting a little smaller. It's such a weird, like it's
• 48:45
  such a weird thing to have. Like to be.
• 48:48
  To be anti RBI? Like what what?
• 48:51
  What benefit do you have from trying to diminish the value of
• 48:56
  RB is like, sure, you're if if you're the guy at at the plate,
• 49:01
  you're not the one that put them on, but if you're able to
• 49:03
  succeed with those guys on, like, how was that not valuable?
• 49:06
  I I don't that's just a weird lose a lot.
• 49:10
  It's a lot. And you know, there was a big
• 49:12
  question mark in the leadoff spot for for the first half of
• 49:16
  the year for the Yankees. And I would say even more.
• 49:19
  Glaber didn't really start taking off in that spot until
• 49:22
  like September. Now it does help hitting behind
• 49:26
  Soto, but it's not like he, you know, you have a a a complete
• 49:30
  burner in Soto that's scoring from first on double S like
• 49:34
  this. Just, you know, he's pretty
• 49:36
  slow. So it's just it's a job well
• 49:38
  done by judge. And again, like the same way
• 49:44
  recency bias works for positive things, it definitely works on
• 49:49
  negative things. And yes, the conversation about
• 49:53
  Judge is as the Yankees fan, like it just none of this
• 49:57
  matters. I I would take a subpar year in
• 50:02
  a World Series MVP over this. But I guess I can't be totally
• 50:11
  hater in this spot. I don't know.
• 50:16
  And fantastic year. Fantastic year.
• 50:19
  What was the OPS for Judge? It's 11 change, wasn't it?
• 50:26
  11:59. That's crazy and I'll go back.
• 50:31
  I don't remember what was the slug?
• 50:38
  What was what was the nuts? It was just a completely crazy
• 50:43
  stat to read out loud that his slug was higher than the league
• 50:47
  average OPS. Oh yeah, he he slugged seven O 1
• 50:53
  this year. The league average OPS 1159.
• 50:58
  I don't know if it stayed that way, but at one point in the.
• 51:01
  Oh yeah, yeah, I remember we talked about that like at one
• 51:04
  point in the season that was, that was absolutely true.
• 51:07
  I like I said, I don't know if it finished out that way, but
• 51:09
  just insane. It's just crazy.
• 51:11
  Like that's gross. Yeah, and he he really did kind
• 51:14
  of fizzle out towards the last few weeks of the year.
• 51:18
  It looked like 60 was definitely in play for a while and then it
• 51:21
  just kind of slowed down a little bit.
• 51:23
  But no. Fantastic year, amazing year.
• 51:26
  Finish year going back to that OPS plus thing.
• 51:30
  I may I'm, I may be wrong on that, on that quote or that
• 51:33
  tweet about it being the best all time in a single season, but
• 51:39
  he did finish year with 223 OPS plus.
• 51:43
  Which means that's 2 1/4 players.
• 51:46
  That's insane, yeah. That's that's ridiculous
• 51:51
  production. And I think a thing that we're
• 51:54
  that does not get brought up enough is that for all intents
• 51:59
  and purposes, this should be Aaron Judge's third career MVP.
• 52:02
  But yeah, and you may, I don't know if you mentioned that while
• 52:05
  I was looking up notes, but something that I think needs to
• 52:08
  be. It it really needs to be talked
• 52:11
  about more. He was robbed.
• 52:14
  I think he was 17 or 18. 17 Altuve, Yeah.
• 52:18
  'Cause you would have Rookie the year and MVP.
• 52:20
  That's right, right? Yeah, 52 home runs that year.
• 52:24
  Yeah, yeah, unless like he beat Altuve in like multiple.
• 52:30
  Offenses. Altuve had him beat in like 3 of
• 52:33
  the 20 that you put that you pull up on those side by side
• 52:36
  comparisons. It was just whatever.
• 52:39
  But no, that that's important though, not having that third
• 52:43
  because you look at and I'm not, I'm not going to say they're on
• 52:46
  the same level. You can that's for other people
• 52:48
  to dissect. I'm not going to sit here and
• 52:50
  talk about how close or how far apart Otani and Judge are.
• 52:55
  But you look at Otani, he now has three and let me see how
• 53:06
  many, how many other have 3 plus I I saw that nugget somewhere.
• 53:12
  I mean, the list is obviously pretty small, but I'm.
• 53:16
  Pretty bad with awards, I'm going to be honest with you.
• 53:18
  But that's just that that's sort of that going back to missing
• 53:22
  out on that MVP for judge back in 17.
• 53:24
  Like that's the kind of company that you're missing out on by
• 53:26
  not having that third one. And I'm not, I'm not saying he,
• 53:30
  he won't get another, but you know, as it stands right now, I.
• 53:34
  Mean he's 33. You know it's not going to get
• 53:39
  easier. No, he's still.
• 53:40
  He's still well within his window though.
• 53:43
  Yeah. Which you know.
• 53:45
  Sucks for get him out of center field.
• 53:48
  Sucks for the American League. Yeah, I mean, tip of the cat,
• 53:50
  man. That that's that's it's lost.
• 53:54
  Worthy, wild. It's wild when you move back and
• 53:58
  we can move on, but it's wild when you go back a few years
• 54:01
  because, you know, a lot of people were were critiquing how
• 54:06
  he couldn't stay on the field. And I, I can go word for word
• 54:11
  and say, I can remember saying that this was fluky stuff.
• 54:15
  The injuries were fluky. You know, it's just weird stuff
• 54:19
  of like cracking a rib when he laid out in the outfield kind of
• 54:22
  thing. Like it's just strange injuries
• 54:24
  that and then I feel like that's kind of been put to bed And even
• 54:29
  this year, like the Super slow start and a ridiculous amount of
• 54:34
  people saying send them down South.
• 54:38
  Look, the monkey, the the final looming monkey on the back is
• 54:43
  obviously the postseason performance, which is it's
• 54:46
  gotten like a long enough sample size to say it is been bad.
• 54:52
  You know, that's the that's just kind of the last thing and
• 54:57
  obviously a trophy. But anyway.
• 55:01
  He's a 2O5 hitter in the postseason, by the way.
• 55:03
  Yeah, it's a big drop off, big old drop off.
• 55:10
  Not good, but sort of putting a bow on the on the Otani thing
• 55:15
  now that we've wrapped up Judge going going back to some
• 55:23
  comments from from our from our guys over bridge to Buck Tuber
• 55:26
  podcast in the chat. I just referencing one from
• 55:29
  earlier in the show. He he when he was talking about
• 55:32
  how the skeins marrow race wasn't close because of the way
• 55:36
  the first place votes were distributed 23 to 7, obviously
• 55:40
  in favor of skeins. OK.
• 55:44
  And this isn't a knock on them. This is more addressing the
• 55:48
  people in the room who maybe feel that Francisco Lindor got
• 55:53
  robbed of this year's MVP given the fact that Otani was ADH. 30
• 56:00
  votes for Otani, obviously unanimous.
• 56:05
  Do I think Otani deserved the MVP?
• 56:07
  Absolutely. Do I think Francisco Lindor
• 56:10
  maybe deserved a few first place votes?
• 56:12
  No. I I would have to say yeah, like
• 56:19
  I'm not OK in a weird, sick, twisted world where where Shohei
• 56:26
  Ohtani could somehow be unanimous MVP but but also see
• 56:32
  Francisco Lindor get some first place votes in some weird
• 56:36
  alternate universe. I mean, even if it was just two,
• 56:42
  like I again, I don't think Francisco Lindor was the MVP
• 56:46
  this year just because of how insane Otani's year was, but to
• 56:51
  not even have a first place vote?
• 56:55
  I just I can't. And he didn't even get all of
• 56:57
  the he didn't get all of the second place votes, which I, I
• 57:02
  don't know, but seems a little little off putting to me.
• 57:08
  But all all that to say my my my point.
• 57:10
  With that 44 OPS. We're not.
• 57:14
  Look, we're not. We don't have to do a deep dive
• 57:16
  here. I'm just saying I just.
• 57:19
  I'm just saying the vote breakdown net isn't isn't always
• 57:22
  necessarily a reflection. Of the.
• 57:25
  Closest of the race. Sometimes it is, but a lot of
• 57:28
  times it's not. Like the fact that, like I said,
• 57:30
  Lynn Dordan get a single vote. How many did Bobby Witt get
• 57:35
  Bobby? Witts, I think he got had to
• 57:37
  have had all, all of the second place votes, yeah.
• 57:40
  Yeah, cool. That's what I thought.
• 57:43
  From the pod Bobby Witt. Yeah, dude, just an amazing
• 57:49
  year. I think we've mentioned this
• 57:52
  before, I know I have. When you look at Shohei Otana,
• 57:58
  you have to think just pure ball player and when you have one arm
• 58:07
  tied behind your back and what you're able to provide the team
• 58:12
  and you somehow just say, OK, I'm going to steal a 1,000,000
• 58:17
  bags then you know what I mean? Like, I'm just going to add that
• 58:20
  I've had it. I haven't used it, but I still
• 58:24
  can bring that tool out of my toolbox.
• 58:28
  You know, he's we've had we've had seasons where he's on the
• 58:30
  mound where he just kind of shuts it down.
• 58:32
  He doesn't run that much. And I don't know how much of the
• 58:33
  Angels were doing that or dictating that, but the fact
• 58:38
  that like he's had that as a weapon and just hasn't really
• 58:42
  unleashed it until now in a year where he couldn't be on the
• 58:45
  mound. It just speaks like the IT it
• 58:49
  truly is like the best player on in in Little League.
• 58:53
  Like it's like you're just so much better than everybody and
• 58:56
  you're going to impact the game somehow, some way.
• 58:59
  It's. Every single game.
• 59:01
  Every game it's truly unmatched in a way that I've I've never
• 59:10
  witnessed than any other player ever.
• 59:14
  Speaking of unmatched what other baseball podcasts out there
• 59:19
  brought to you before the season started their own pre season.
• 59:24
  Awards. That's true.
• 59:26
  Who'd you have? I don't remember.
• 59:27
  We. Did that.
• 59:29
  If you recall, we sort of made-up some awards to.
• 59:33
  Wait, you didn't give the MVP awards?
• 59:36
  Oh, your MVP picks? My MVP picks were Juan Soto, who
• 59:42
  finished third, correct? Yeah, me too.
• 59:44
  Finished third. Also me.
• 59:46
  And then I had Mookie Betts out of the NL, who, if you recall,
• 59:49
  go back to before he got hurt. He was well on his way.
• 59:53
  Was tracking to be the MVP, yeah, but then Otani obviously
• 59:56
  goes and does what he does, so it may have not even certainly
• 59:59
  didn't matter. Super Dodger Heavy heavy.
• 1:00:02
  I had Freddy Freeman crazy any who's.
• 1:00:09
  Shout out to Ryan by the way. One little last nod to friend of
• 1:00:13
  the pod Ryan. He had Gunner Henderson out of
• 1:00:15
  the AL and Mookie Betts in the NL 2 pretty safe picks.
• 1:00:19
  Credits to him though because I I think Gunner was expected to
• 1:00:22
  have a good year but there for a while he was tracking to have
• 1:00:25
  and I'd have to go back and look at how he finished up the year
• 1:00:28
  like counting stats wise but. I think he he correct me if I'm
• 1:00:33
  wrong but he took off quickly. He did, and then the.
• 1:00:37
  Judge's like slow start. It was like, oh, gunner's like
• 1:00:40
  doing this. Yeah, it was him and Bobby Witt.
• 1:00:42
  And if you recall, that's when we're having these conversations
• 1:00:45
  like who would like the the more like Broad, who would you build
• 1:00:48
  your franchise? Yeah, but then it it it kind of
• 1:00:51
  take he he cooled off a little bit.
• 1:00:53
  So it then at that point Bobby sort of took over that second
• 1:00:56
  place spot. But yeah, still great year for
• 1:01:00
  Gunner all things considered. And then Mookie Betts, outside
• 1:01:05
  of an injury, another great year.
• 1:01:07
  But no, going back to what I was saying though about these pre
• 1:01:09
  season awards, we sort of made-up some awards if you
• 1:01:12
  recall, but again, if you're new probably don't know what we're
• 1:01:14
  talking about. We had made-up some awards and
• 1:01:17
  sort of predicted who the winners would be for set awards.
• 1:01:22
  So we can run through these real quick just to again just wrap up
• 1:01:25
  the 2024 season so that we can fully set our sights on the 2025
• 1:01:31
  put it to bed. So I have here, you may have
• 1:01:37
  them in a different order, but I have in order the we started
• 1:01:40
  with the over 35 award and I don't have the descriptions of
• 1:01:46
  of what these awards were, but I would, if I recall, if I pretty
• 1:01:51
  self-explanatory, the best who the player who we thought would
• 1:01:55
  have the best year over the age of 35.
• 1:01:58
  I I had it as the still got it award, Yes, Yep, still still got
• 1:02:06
  it. Still got it award I had Paul
• 1:02:09
  Goldschmidt. I did as well, same guy.
• 1:02:14
  Let's see how, let's just let's, let's take a look here, just
• 1:02:19
  briefly at Paul Paulie's 2024, he finished.
• 1:02:22
  Not the best. Finish hitting 24522 homers,
• 1:02:27
  only accumulated a WAR of 1.3. Well I say only it was 1.3 WAR,
• 1:02:32
  more WAR than I accumulated this year, so credit to him in that
• 1:02:36
  regard. 65 RB is just and that's over 154 games too.
• 1:02:43
  So just not the year we thought, but you compare them to other
• 1:02:49
  guys that are over 35, maybe it wasn't a half bad year.
• 1:02:54
  Like maybe because I mean, that's who he's up against at
• 1:02:56
  that point. So maybe, maybe if maybe he
• 1:03:01
  finished in the top three of the MVP voting for over 35
• 1:03:05
  candidates, that'd be a a little project for somebody if they
• 1:03:10
  want to take that on, see how Polly finished in that.
• 1:03:13
  Pool, pool, pool. The next ward we had was.
• 1:03:22
  The bringing up the. Rear Ward, which was who we
• 1:03:28
  thought was going to serve in the best role of a four or five
• 1:03:35
  starter. I had a lot of names I don't,
• 1:03:41
  and I don't even know who I ended up going with because I
• 1:03:44
  think in and I just copied and pasted by notes from the Google
• 1:03:48
  Doc from that episode. And I had just listed out a
• 1:03:52
  bunch just to sort of, you know, kick around on the recording.
• 1:03:56
  And I don't remember who I went, I think.
• 1:03:58
  You said Chris Sale. Is he on that list?
• 1:04:02
  He's second on that list for me. I.
• 1:04:03
  Think you said Chris Sale. Brandon Fott was was the first
• 1:04:08
  name I had down, but I feel like maybe I.
• 1:04:10
  Wouldn't feel like, I feel like you said Sale.
• 1:04:15
  I think you did, which is solid, you know.
• 1:04:18
  But what's crazy is like he's. A45 starter Nomo.
• 1:04:22
  Yeah, I was going to say he sort of kind of removed himself from
• 1:04:25
  contention, I guess, because he became an ace #1 Cy Young Triple
• 1:04:31
  Crown winner. So I don't even know if I can
• 1:04:33
  take credit for that pick, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:40
  I had Dane Dunning. It's not a great year, tough.
• 1:04:45
  Only made 15 starts, I think eventually got moved to the
• 1:04:48
  bullpen only through 95 innings, 531 ERA.
• 1:04:56
  So a little bit of a miss there. Little you know, that could have
• 1:05:00
  been the again that recency Ranger bias.
• 1:05:06
  Tough. Hey, we we both fell victim to
• 1:05:10
  that. Yeah, that's all right.
• 1:05:12
  Just in different ways. The Hey That's Me award, which I
• 1:05:17
  believe was we had to find guys. Award right here.
• 1:05:22
  We had to find a guy who I think was like ±5 lbs away from our
• 1:05:30
  weight and then like same height I think.
• 1:05:33
  Same height. I think we are set on it had to
• 1:05:35
  be the exact height, but there's a little bit of leeway there
• 1:05:37
  with the weight cause finding a guy with our exact dimensions
• 1:05:41
  believe it or not, was actually pretty tough.
• 1:05:43
  It was and. Not for Ryan, because Ryan's
• 1:05:47
  what, like 6? Yeah, he's the all.
• 1:05:49
  He's like a he's like a really good size.
• 1:05:51
  Yeah, it's annoying. For us, 6 foot flat.
• 1:05:56
  And I'd like to think I got a little fluffier since the start
• 1:05:59
  of the season. You know, it's sweater weather
• 1:06:01
  time, so no big deal. So.
• 1:06:05
  Wild. But my just by default, not by
• 1:06:09
  choice. My guy that I assigned this
• 1:06:14
  award to was Erasmo Ramirez, who is a pitcher for the Rays.
• 1:06:23
  Honestly, I'd forgotten he put up negative .2 WAR on the year.
• 1:06:28
  He went three and O, you know he went three and O.
• 1:06:32
  He had an ERA of 435, though only appeared in 13 games.
• 1:06:36
  But he did have a save so. Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  Of all the seasons in Major League Baseball that's that's
• 1:06:43
  ever been played by a player, this was one of them.
• 1:06:49
  It was it was one of the seasons, all.
• 1:06:53
  Times it was one of the years I feel like I I found a good name
• 1:06:58
  and he just kind of let me down. I had Jesus Lazardo.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah, you got it. That's a good name.
• 1:07:06
  That's a good. That's a strong, that's a clear
• 1:07:09
  cut favor to win that award amongst the OR I guess between
• 1:07:13
  the two of us, I should say not 3.
• 1:07:16
  Tough look, did not finish the year 12 games, started A5 even
• 1:07:21
  ERA. Tough. 3:00 and 6:00, but I
• 1:07:27
  don't think we're paying attention to wins as a Marlin
• 1:07:30
  any who. The tinfoil hat award refreshed
• 1:07:35
  me on this was it? This was the award I came up
• 1:07:38
  with, but it was the description, if you will, was
• 1:07:42
  like, who was most likely to get swept up in some sort of
• 1:07:46
  conspiracy or controversy, right?
• 1:07:48
  Yeah, that's what I have as well.
• 1:07:50
  Yeah, yeah. OK Did you write them out?
• 1:07:52
  Descriptions down? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:54
  OK, OK. Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  This is just kind of an outside the box thinking here.
• 1:07:58
  Yeah, just looking for some, some creative outside the box
• 1:08:01
  awards here. And for mine, just given the way
• 1:08:05
  that the previous season had went, I had, I had, well, the
• 1:08:10
  two names I'd put down were Anthony Rendon and Pete Alonso,
• 1:08:15
  because Pete Alonso is just that type of guy that's going to get
• 1:08:18
  swept up in something. And fortunately for him, for the
• 1:08:22
  most part, got swept up in in nothing but good stuff this
• 1:08:26
  year. So he's he's he.
• 1:08:29
  He missed the tinfoil hat. He said, Miss me with that
• 1:08:32
  Anthony Rendon suffer interpretation, I guess.
• 1:08:37
  Yeah. I, I think you're closer than I
• 1:08:41
  am. I kind of just had like, AI
• 1:08:44
  don't even know if this really counts, but I said Trevor Bauer
• 1:08:47
  officially sues MLB in an official lawsuit.
• 1:08:53
  I mean, who knows, you may have been like a day away from that.
• 1:08:57
  Maybe the? Still could happen.
• 1:08:59
  Maybe the rug got pulled out last minute.
• 1:09:01
  Or something, I don't know. The way I see it is that that
• 1:09:03
  guy is just getting fatter in the Mexican league.
• 1:09:08
  He's plump now. Have you have you seen some
• 1:09:11
  videos? Oh yeah, there's some man food
• 1:09:13
  down there. Eating some tacos dude.
• 1:09:17
  I'm he's getting in. Who am I?
• 1:09:19
  Who am I to say I'm? I'm.
• 1:09:21
  I'm no better man in that regard.
• 1:09:23
  I I. Wouldn't be fat, nor am I.
• 1:09:26
  He's just screaming at the other dugout.
• 1:09:29
  It's wild, anyway. The There's no way we saw that
• 1:09:34
  coming award. I think I took this to the bank.
• 1:09:39
  I don't have a name on here. Probably because you didn't see
• 1:09:44
  it coming. Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  What the heck of? Course, I I don't recall who you
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  went with, but it doesn't matter because it wouldn't have been a
• 1:09:56
  better pick than mine. Luis Severino, you this right
• 1:10:02
  here is proof that I was high on Severino from the jump coming
• 1:10:07
  into the season. And and it turns out that he
• 1:10:11
  decided that he wanted to decline the qualifying offers.
• 1:10:14
  So to me, that's a pretty good indicator of how this year went
• 1:10:17
  for him. So do I know Ball when it comes
• 1:10:22
  to Elise Severino or do I know Ball?
• 1:10:25
  I feel like I had a dud because the description of this was pray
• 1:10:31
  their player who either has a surprisingly great or poor
• 1:10:36
  season. I feel like I had a dud.
• 1:10:43
  I just, I don't know. I'm going to have to, you know,
• 1:10:45
  if any listeners want to go back to that episode and Fast forward
• 1:10:50
  through all of Ryan's tequila. Drunken rants.
• 1:10:57
  I might just you know what? Tomorrow's Friday.
• 1:11:00
  I'm going. To have a little fun.
• 1:11:01
  I might go back and just listen to that episode just for kicks.
• 1:11:04
  It's a good episode, Ryan. Was on one that episode that was
• 1:11:08
  fun. Yeah, I think he was sitting
• 1:11:10
  around. I don't know.
• 1:11:11
  I think we had like we started like an hour late because of me,
• 1:11:14
  something like that. Or we yeah, he had a little buzz
• 1:11:17
  going for sure. He was feeling it.
• 1:11:20
  Yeah, I don't remember the name that I said.
• 1:11:23
  That's disappointing. We'll figure it out.
• 1:11:26
  We'll go back to it. No, but last thing here on the
• 1:11:29
  Severino thing I did I I had jotted down just in parentheses
• 1:11:33
  as a as a reference point last year.
• 1:11:36
  He's coming off a 665 ERA with a 65 ERA plus you go from that to
• 1:11:43
  decline in the QO looking for. Good turn around.
• 1:11:47
  Somewhat of a payout, yeah. I'd say it's a pretty good turn
• 1:11:52
  around. I've always liked it sort of
• 1:11:56
  wrapping up here, the storyline takes now this again, these are
• 1:12:00
  takes that we we shared in the preseason predictions episode
• 1:12:05
  and it's really open-ended. Again, if you if you listen to
• 1:12:08
  that episode, you're familiar with kind of the angle that that
• 1:12:12
  we take with these. But if you're new, basically
• 1:12:14
  this is just something that I think I initially came up with a
• 1:12:17
  couple years back where I was like, Nate, let's just come up
• 1:12:20
  with like just think outside the box.
• 1:12:23
  Like it can be as as far out or just as like, you know, lukewarm
• 1:12:29
  as you want you, you kind of pick.
• 1:12:31
  But it just it can be whatever storyline narratives, whatever
• 1:12:35
  just takes that you think will will happen when we reflect back
• 1:12:42
  on the year at the end of the season.
• 1:12:44
  So I think I had 4, you had three.
• 1:12:49
  So I'll, we'll, sandwich it. We'll just alternate here.
• 1:12:52
  I'll, we can sandwich yours in between the four here.
• 1:12:56
  I started off, I was real high on Mookie Betts this year,
• 1:12:59
  obviously picking him to win NLMVP.
• 1:13:02
  But I said Lukey. Mookie Betts wins a Gold Glove
• 1:13:06
  in his first full season at his respective infield position.
• 1:13:09
  And I had put in parentheses shortstop or second base, 'cause
• 1:13:13
  if you recall, yeah, quite the fiasco with, with still, even
• 1:13:18
  still. Yeah, even still.
• 1:13:21
  But not to be, not to be the case.
• 1:13:25
  But the fact that they want to bring them back, I think says
• 1:13:29
  speaks a little bit of volume to how they feel about having them
• 1:13:33
  in the infield. Eye wash, it's eye wash is the
• 1:13:37
  is the lower the the shortstop market numbers I think.
• 1:13:48
  Clear some space for Soto? Who knows?
• 1:13:50
  That too, Lord, I hope not. All I'm saying is if he was that
• 1:13:57
  bad they wouldn't be bringing him back.
• 1:13:59
  That's that's that's my only point.
• 1:14:01
  Yeah, it's good pick. Tough look here.
• 1:14:06
  Clayton Kershaw will get his three thousandth strikeout
• 1:14:09
  capped with ACG. Tough.
• 1:14:15
  Tough. The three thousandth strikeout
• 1:14:17
  would have been would have been fine, but the CG was, yeah.
• 1:14:21
  One step too spicy. I don't even think that's on the
• 1:14:25
  spiciness scale. Like if you go to B dubs and
• 1:14:28
  you're looking at like how spicy do I want my wings to be?
• 1:14:30
  It's not even it's it's not on the.
• 1:14:33
  Those Hot Ones episodes, Yeah, not even a flavor.
• 1:14:37
  Exactly, I said which I is there a way to look this up?
• 1:14:43
  I would. I would actually be curious.
• 1:14:47
  I doubt it was true, but I said all 5 NL Central teams would be
• 1:14:52
  within reach of the division. I didn't specify a game amount,
• 1:14:55
  I just said within reach. That's up for interpretation.
• 1:14:58
  That's a subjective thing. Within reach of the division on
• 1:15:02
  August 1st. Whoa.
• 1:15:05
  All right. I think you can look that up.
• 1:15:07
  I think you can look up MLB standings on August 1st.
• 1:15:14
  MLB standings. Oh, here we go.
• 1:15:18
  Baseball reference. Don't let me down.
• 1:15:20
  Oh, beautiful. Yeah.
• 1:15:22
  Beautiful baseball reference. I appreciate you.
• 1:15:25
  August 1st, 2024 The NL what did I say?
• 1:15:28
  The Central. Yep.
• 1:15:31
  OK, so we had the Brewers in first at 61 and 47.
• 1:15:35
  The Cardinals were 5 1/2 back, 56 and 53.
• 1:15:39
  Pirates were six games back. I OK, I remember this part of
• 1:15:43
  the season because this is when we were talking about how for
• 1:15:47
  the Pirates. Yeah, I I do recall.
• 1:15:49
  Yep, Yeah, yeah. They were even 50 or No, I'm
• 1:15:52
  sorry. They were 55 and 53 and then the
• 1:15:54
  Reds were 99 back and the Cubs were 9 1/2 back.
• 1:15:57
  To be fair, I don't think we, I don't think we saw the Cubs be 9
• 1:16:01
  1/2 back at that point. But yeah, it was really up to
• 1:16:05
  the. Reds at that point, goodness, I
• 1:16:09
  feel like I really got struck with some injuries on a lot of
• 1:16:12
  my predictions. She just it's a part of it still
• 1:16:19
  stinks. You know, this was I like this
• 1:16:24
  one. I was proud of this one.
• 1:16:25
  Javi Baez breaks the longest consecutive Hitler streak held
• 1:16:29
  by Chris Davis. Would you Those aren't aware.
• 1:16:38
  I completely forgot I was proud of that one.
• 1:16:44
  What kind of numbers did he finish up the year with?
• 1:16:46
  I don't. I don't even.
• 1:16:47
  Oh, no. He was hurt.
• 1:16:48
  He played. Yeah, yeah, he was.
• 1:16:49
  He was hurt for who knows how long.
• 1:16:52
  I think he's, I think he's in baseball jail at the moment.
• 1:16:54
  They got better without him. They did they they He logged 80
• 1:16:58
  games this year, finished with six home runs.
• 1:17:02
  Had 50 hits on the year. Hit 184.
• 1:17:06
  See, it wasn't a ridiculous prediction, I hope.
• 1:17:09
  No, not at all. That was that was a great, great
• 1:17:12
  pick. OPS plus of 46 sure.
• 1:17:17
  OPS, excuse me, OPS of 516. What did we say?
• 1:17:21
  Judges was like 1150 something. 591159.
• 1:17:28
  Judge more than doubled Javi Bias's OPS gross.
• 1:17:35
  I mean, man, that's got to go down as one of the worst
• 1:17:39
  contracts of all time. Chris Davis also in this this
• 1:17:43
  sentence here, another one of those contracts of all time.
• 1:17:48
  How about this one? I said.
• 1:17:50
  I said, which not going to happen.
• 1:17:52
  But I said Dave Roberts is dismissed if the Dodgers do not
• 1:17:56
  win the World Series. Well, we'll never know.
• 1:17:59
  We'll never know. Solid and I too bad.
• 1:18:04
  Serious question though. I mean, I think I said that with
• 1:18:11
  the belief that they weren't even going to be in the World
• 1:18:14
  Series. Yeah, but had look at your World
• 1:18:17
  Series winner, you have that written down, don't you?
• 1:18:19
  And the prediction? Yeah, I had Phillies, Phillies,
• 1:18:24
  O's. No, but I'm, I'm more so
• 1:18:28
  speaking to the like the the perspective that I had on the
• 1:18:32
  Dodgers throughout the year where I was like, again, it's
• 1:18:34
  not going to be cakewalk, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:18:36
  Had they made it to the World Series and lost?
• 1:18:40
  Maybe. What was the What do we feel
• 1:18:41
  like the narrative was on Dave Roberts's postseason?
• 1:18:44
  Do we think that that would have been a possibility?
• 1:18:46
  Maybe I probably not, but I think this postseason he really
• 1:18:49
  put it to bed. That's fair.
• 1:18:51
  Yeah, this is a really well managed postseason.
• 1:18:54
  I agree. Like, and it's the most managing
• 1:18:57
  that we've watched him do, specifically in the NLCS and
• 1:19:01
  World Series with what he did with the bullpen.
• 1:19:04
  But not bullpen, right? He just pressed the right
• 1:19:07
  buttons every time. Now to be fair, it's a roster
• 1:19:11
  full of really solid options, but he still pressed the buttons
• 1:19:16
  correctly, so I feel like that's a narrative that's no longer
• 1:19:20
  present. So agree for him.
• 1:19:25
  What was your last? What was your last one?
• 1:19:27
  Pete Alonzo wins the NL home run title with a team other than the
• 1:19:32
  Mets. So I was expecting a trade.
• 1:19:37
  I was expecting a bad season on the Mets and then a trade.
• 1:19:42
  Which that was on the table. Neither of which happened, but.
• 1:19:47
  Yeah, the trade part, not the home run.
• 1:19:49
  Part yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that old Otani.
• 1:19:57
  It look, it's easy to laugh at these these takes now, but like.
• 1:20:02
  There's some thought that goes into these for sure.
• 1:20:04
  For sure. Yeah, like that's that NL
• 1:20:07
  Central being within reach thing.
• 1:20:09
  I I remember being especially proud of that one.
• 1:20:12
  I was like, I, yeah, I feel good about this.
• 1:20:14
  I feel like this might be the year the the Central.
• 1:20:17
  It was. The other league that it was the
• 1:20:19
  year. Of But prediction wise, I had
• 1:20:21
  Dodgers and six over the OS, so I guess I got a few things right
• 1:20:27
  on here. Well, I did not get this one
• 1:20:32
  right. My last storyline take here is
• 1:20:35
  that I said the league, the league.
• 1:20:37
  I don't. What was that you said?
• 1:20:39
  A lot of thought goes into these.
• 1:20:41
  I would agree, except on this one.
• 1:20:42
  I didn't really. I didn't.
• 1:20:44
  I don't know what I was thinking here.
• 1:20:45
  I wasn't thinking really. I said the league would walk
• 1:20:47
  back the pitch clock, that the league would go.
• 1:20:52
  The league would go. I think it's we've, we've made a
• 1:20:54
  mistake here. Pull the pull the Orioles of of
• 1:20:58
  the left field wall and just say, you know what, let's
• 1:21:00
  restructure this. Yeah.
• 1:21:03
  I think it's the opposite. I think it's the exact opposite.
• 1:21:05
  I think there's more people on board now than ever.
• 1:21:10
  Yeah. Oh well, I, I made that pick or
• 1:21:12
  I, I, I, I jotted that that take down through the lens of the
• 1:21:17
  league let and and not so much like public perception, but to
• 1:21:21
  your. Point, I think you had I, I
• 1:21:25
  think you had a bit of a argument, I think that lasted a
• 1:21:27
  a little while for you to try to talk us into that.
• 1:21:33
  And I think at this point, Ryan was pretty checked out.
• 1:21:37
  I think we all were because that that episode a deep.
• 1:21:40
  Three hour episode now. I'll listen to that tomorrow.
• 1:21:44
  I might dude, works real slow. Put it at at 1 1/2 speed.
• 1:21:49
  We're coming up on the holidays, man, by the way.
• 1:21:52
  Little trick and if you if you speed it up, if you're not a
• 1:21:55
  YouTube watcher, which you should be, but if you're not a
• 1:21:59
  YouTube watcher, you're just a listener, throw that on the
• 1:22:02
  1.25. That really gets you through
• 1:22:05
  some podcasts. It does for me.
• 1:22:07
  I don't, I don't want to speed through my podcast.
• 1:22:09
  So I enjoy listening to my podcast, so I want to like.
• 1:22:13
  No, I like getting through it all.
• 1:22:14
  No, like, yeah, what's the rush? You know what, when there's
• 1:22:19
  people that are funny and there's less of a of a gap
• 1:22:23
  between jokes and they're just it's a tighter dialogue makes it
• 1:22:28
  funnier. One could argue.
• 1:22:33
  See that little pause that we just had?
• 1:22:35
  It's barely there, you know, don't even notice.
• 1:22:38
  It's fair. I'll hear you.
• 1:22:42
  Just a pro tip, but tip, The other pro tip is to, you know,
• 1:22:47
  subscribe to the YouTube channel exactly.
• 1:22:49
  Took the words right out of my mouth.
• 1:22:50
  Get the views going. You know, yeah, check us out on
• 1:22:55
  YouTube. Look, it's going to be it's
• 1:22:56
  going to be a fun offseason looking now that we've
• 1:22:59
  officially closed the book on the 2024 season, sites are fully
• 1:23:05
  set on the 2025 season. It's going to be fun.
• 1:23:07
  There's going to be some moves that go down.
• 1:23:09
  We're going to we're going to get weird.
• 1:23:11
  But there are going to be, as with any postseason, they're
• 1:23:14
  going to be some lulls. So come come enjoy the
• 1:23:17
  experience on YouTube and I think.
• 1:23:19
  We might be due for some change UPS soon to fill some gaps.
• 1:23:24
  We are due for a change up. Yeah, pizzas, pizzas.
• 1:23:28
  First up, we got to talk pizza. Yeah, we got some gaps to fill
• 1:23:32
  around these holidays. We'll get it done.
• 1:23:38
  Yeah. Is that it?
• 1:23:40
  Speaking of being done, yeah, that's all we got.
• 1:23:42
  Awesome. You guys are great.
• 1:23:45
  If you're here with us still, you stuck it out to the end.
• 1:23:48
  You're a real one. You're AG and you're my close
• 1:23:52
  friend. My close friend right here in
• 1:23:54
  the heart. That's where I hold that spot
• 1:23:56
  for you. Don't go Jason Curveballs.
• 1:23:59
  We love you all and as always, looking forward to talking more
• 1:24:00
  baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.