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S7, Ep 51: The Art of Adaptation: Embracing Summer Fishing Challenges with Mac Brown · The Articulate Fly

• 0:00
  Hey,
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  folks,
• 0:04
  it's
• 0:04
  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  We're
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  back
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  with
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  another
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  Casting
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  Angles
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  with
• 0:08
  Mack
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  Brown.
• 0:09
  Mac,
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  how
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  are
• 0:10
  you?
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  I'm
• 0:11
  doing
• 0:11
  great.
• 0:12
  How
• 0:12
  you
• 0:12
  doing,
• 0:12
  Marvin?
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  As
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  always.
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  Just
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  trying
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  to
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  stay
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  out
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  of
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  trouble.
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  And,
• 0:15
  you
• 0:15
  know,
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  it's
• 0:15
  kind
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  of
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  funny.
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  I
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  think
• 0:16
  the
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  last
• 0:16
  time
• 0:17
  we
• 0:17
  talked,
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  it
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  was
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  still
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  kind
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  of
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  cool
• 0:18
  and
• 0:18
  nice
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  and
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  we
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  were
• 0:20
  all
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  hopeful
• 0:20
  for
• 0:20
  kind
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  of
• 0:21
  a
• 0:21
  longer
• 0:21
  trout
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  season.
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  And,
• 0:22
  you
• 0:23
  know,
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  it's
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  raining
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  where
• 0:24
  you
• 0:24
  are,
• 0:24
  but
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  I
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  mean,
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  it's
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  what
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  it's
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  been
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  in
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  the
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  90s
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  down
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  here
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  in
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  the
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  Piedmont
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  for,
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  I
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  don't
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  know,
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  the
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  last
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  week
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  to
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  10
• 0:29
  days.
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  So
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  we're
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  getting
• 0:30
  ready
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  to
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  trudge
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  right
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  into
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  the
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  dog
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  days
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  of
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  summer,
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  I
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  think.
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  I
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  think
• 0:34
  we
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  are
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  too.
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  It's.
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  We've
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  been
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  blessed
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  with
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  rain
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  pretty
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  much
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  every
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  day.
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  And
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  yeah,
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  we
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  went
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  straight
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  from
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  that
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  cold
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  weather
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  to
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  rain
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  and
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  more
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  rain.
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  So
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  the
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  water's
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  pretty
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  much
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  high
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  and
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  dirty
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  right
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  now
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  here.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  mean,
• 0:49
  I
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  guess,
• 0:49
  I
• 0:50
  guess.
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  Is
• 0:50
  it.
• 0:50
  I
• 0:50
  guess
• 0:50
  was
• 0:51
  it
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  last
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  weekend
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  that
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  DH
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  burned
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  off
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  or
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  is
• 0:53
  it
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  next
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  weekend?
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  What
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  is
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  today?
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  Yeah,
• 0:58
  it
• 0:58
  was
• 0:58
  Saturday.
• 0:59
  Yeah,
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  it
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  opened
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  up
• 1:00
  this
• 1:00
  past
• 1:00
  Saturday.
• 1:02
  I'm
• 1:02
  sorry.
• 1:03
  I
• 1:03
  went
• 1:03
  by
• 1:03
  there
• 1:03
  actually
• 1:04
  an
• 1:04
  afternoon.
• 1:04
  It
• 1:05
  was.
• 1:05
  It
• 1:05
  was
• 1:05
  pretty
• 1:05
  chaotic
• 1:06
  there
• 1:06
  in
• 1:06
  the
• 1:06
  morning.
• 1:07
  Yeah,
• 1:07
  I
• 1:07
  mean,
• 1:08
  but
• 1:08
  you
• 1:08
  know,
• 1:08
  we
• 1:08
  were.
• 1:08
  We
• 1:09
  figured
• 1:09
  it'd
• 1:09
  be
• 1:09
  a
• 1:09
  good
• 1:09
  thing
• 1:09
  to
• 1:10
  talk
• 1:10
  about
• 1:10
  how,
• 1:11
  you
• 1:11
  know,
• 1:11
  obviously
• 1:12
  if
• 1:12
  you're
• 1:12
  going
• 1:12
  to
• 1:12
  fish
• 1:12
  for
• 1:12
  trout,
• 1:13
  it's
• 1:13
  going
• 1:13
  to
• 1:13
  get
• 1:13
  harder
• 1:14
  as
• 1:14
  the
• 1:14
  summer
• 1:14
  goes
• 1:14
  on.
• 1:15
  You
• 1:15
  can
• 1:15
  always
• 1:15
  go
• 1:15
  chase
• 1:16
  panfish
• 1:16
  and
• 1:16
  bass.
• 1:17
  But,
• 1:17
  you
• 1:18
  know,
• 1:18
  one
• 1:18
  of
• 1:18
  the
• 1:18
  things
• 1:18
  to
• 1:19
  kind
• 1:19
  of
• 1:19
  always
• 1:19
  remember
• 1:20
  is
• 1:20
  that
• 1:20
  it's
• 1:21
  really
• 1:21
  not
• 1:21
  all
• 1:21
  about
• 1:21
  catching
• 1:22
  fish.
• 1:22
  And
• 1:22
  there
• 1:22
  are
• 1:22
  all
• 1:23
  kinds
• 1:23
  of
• 1:23
  things
• 1:23
  you
• 1:23
  can
• 1:23
  work
• 1:24
  on
• 1:24
  when
• 1:24
  the
• 1:24
  fishing
• 1:25
  is
• 1:25
  not
• 1:25
  optimal,
• 1:26
  like
• 1:26
  it
• 1:26
  is
• 1:26
  in
• 1:27
  the
• 1:27
  fall
• 1:27
  or
• 1:27
  the
• 1:27
  spring,
• 1:27
  that
• 1:28
  will
• 1:28
  make
• 1:28
  you
• 1:28
  a
• 1:28
  better
• 1:28
  angler
• 1:29
  in
• 1:30
  general
• 1:30
  when
• 1:30
  the
• 1:30
  conditions
• 1:31
  improve.
• 1:33
  That's
• 1:33
  right.
• 1:33
  Yeah.
• 1:33
  Just
• 1:34
  looking
• 1:34
  at
• 1:34
  the.
• 1:35
  Looking
• 1:36
  at
• 1:36
  a
• 1:36
  lot
• 1:36
  of
• 1:36
  the
• 1:37
  skill
• 1:37
  sets
• 1:38
  that
• 1:38
  you
• 1:38
  need
• 1:38
  for
• 1:39
  when
• 1:40
  it
• 1:40
  is
• 1:40
  good.
• 1:40
  I
• 1:40
  mean,
• 1:40
  I
• 1:41
  think
• 1:41
  you
• 1:41
  could
• 1:41
  even
• 1:42
  do
• 1:42
  a
• 1:42
  lot
• 1:42
  of
• 1:42
  these
• 1:44
  classes
• 1:44
  and
• 1:44
  things
• 1:45
  for
• 1:45
  skill
• 1:45
  set
• 1:46
  based
• 1:46
  kind
• 1:47
  of
• 1:47
  education
• 1:47
  in
• 1:47
  the
• 1:48
  middle
• 1:48
  of
• 1:48
  September
• 1:49
  and
• 1:49
  August
• 1:49
  when
• 1:49
  it's
• 1:50
  hot,
• 1:50
  you
• 1:50
  know,
• 1:50
  for
• 1:50
  trout,
• 1:51
  just
• 1:51
  because
• 1:52
  teaching
• 1:52
  them,
• 1:53
  you
• 1:54
  know,
• 1:54
  like
• 1:54
  the
• 1:54
  core
• 1:55
  components
• 1:55
  of
• 1:56
  casting
• 1:57
  and
• 1:57
  line
• 1:58
  control,
• 1:58
  hook
• 1:58
  set,
• 1:59
  playing
• 1:59
  fish,
• 1:59
  landing
• 2:00
  fish.
• 2:00
  That's
• 2:00
  what
• 2:00
  we
• 2:00
  call
• 2:00
  the
• 2:01
  five
• 2:01
  components.
• 2:01
  Always
• 2:02
  over
• 2:02
  the
• 2:02
  years
• 2:03
  and
• 2:03
  teaching
• 2:03
  the
• 2:03
  classes
• 2:04
  at
• 2:04
  Western
• 2:04
  and
• 2:04
  even
• 2:05
  with
• 2:05
  like
• 2:05
  the
• 2:05
  Team
• 2:06
  USA
• 2:06
  kids,
• 2:06
  we
• 2:07
  talk
• 2:07
  about
• 2:07
  that
• 2:07
  always
• 2:07
  with
• 2:08
  the
• 2:08
  clinics,
• 2:10
  you
• 2:10
  could
• 2:10
  teach
• 2:10
  those.
• 2:11
  Those
• 2:11
  things
• 2:11
  regardless
• 2:12
  of
• 2:12
  what
• 2:12
  the
• 2:12
  weather
• 2:12
  is
• 2:13
  or
• 2:13
  how
• 2:13
  good
• 2:13
  or
• 2:13
  bad
• 2:13
  it
• 2:14
  is.
• 2:15
  So
• 2:15
  then
• 2:15
  you
• 2:15
  start
• 2:15
  Looking
• 2:15
  into
• 2:16
  those
• 2:16
  things
• 2:16
  and,
• 2:17
  and,
• 2:18
  and
• 2:18
  just
• 2:19
  the
• 2:19
  little
• 2:19
  wins,
• 2:19
  like,
• 2:20
  you
• 2:20
  know,
• 2:20
  catching
• 2:20
  panfish
• 2:21
  in
• 2:21
  the
• 2:21
  heat
• 2:22
  of
• 2:22
  the
• 2:22
  summer
• 2:22
  for
• 2:22
  warm
• 2:23
  water
• 2:24
  fish,
• 2:24
  you
• 2:24
  know,
• 2:24
  you
• 2:25
  still
• 2:25
  got
• 2:25
  like
• 2:25
  cast
• 2:26
  and
• 2:26
  drift
• 2:26
  and
• 2:27
  what
• 2:27
  if
• 2:27
  they
• 2:27
  can't
• 2:27
  tie
• 2:28
  a
• 2:28
  knot
• 2:28
  and
• 2:28
  they
• 2:28
  learn
• 2:28
  a
• 2:29
  new
• 2:29
  knot?
• 2:29
  What
• 2:29
  if
• 2:30
  they
• 2:30
  have.
• 2:30
  I
• 2:30
  mean,
• 2:30
  it
• 2:30
  just
• 2:31
  goes
• 2:31
  on
• 2:31
  and
• 2:31
  on
• 2:31
  and
• 2:31
  on,
• 2:32
  as
• 2:32
  you
• 2:32
  know.
• 2:32
  So
• 2:33
  there's
• 2:33
  a
• 2:33
  lot
• 2:33
  of
• 2:34
  wins
• 2:35
  with
• 2:35
  that.
• 2:35
  It
• 2:36
  has
• 2:36
  nothing
• 2:36
  to
• 2:36
  do
• 2:36
  with,
• 2:37
  you
• 2:37
  know.
• 2:38
  Did
• 2:38
  you
• 2:39
  catch
• 2:39
  the
• 2:39
  big
• 2:39
  one,
• 2:39
  Marvin,
• 2:40
  for
• 2:40
  Instagram?
• 2:42
  Yeah.
• 2:43
  I
• 2:43
  mean,
• 2:43
  so
• 2:43
  much
• 2:43
  of
• 2:43
  it
• 2:44
  is
• 2:44
  process.
• 2:44
  Right.
• 2:44
  And
• 2:45
  so
• 2:45
  I
• 2:45
  kind
• 2:45
  of
• 2:45
  think
• 2:45
  about
• 2:45
  that
• 2:46
  sort
• 2:46
  of
• 2:46
  stuff
• 2:46
  in
• 2:47
  terms
• 2:47
  of,
• 2:48
  you
• 2:48
  know,
• 2:48
  you
• 2:48
  kind
• 2:49
  of
• 2:49
  want
• 2:49
  to
• 2:49
  come
• 2:49
  up
• 2:49
  and
• 2:50
  you
• 2:50
  can
• 2:50
  kind
• 2:50
  of,
• 2:50
  you
• 2:51
  know,
• 2:51
  modify
• 2:51
  your
• 2:52
  gear
• 2:52
  configuration,
• 2:53
  you
• 2:54
  know,
• 2:54
  as
• 2:54
  you
• 2:54
  go
• 2:54
  along,
• 2:54
  but
• 2:55
  you
• 2:55
  kind
• 2:55
  of
• 2:55
  want
• 2:55
  like
• 2:56
  your
• 2:56
  nippers
• 2:56
  in
• 2:56
  the
• 2:56
  same
• 2:57
  place
• 2:57
  every
• 2:57
  time
• 2:57
  and
• 2:57
  things
• 2:58
  like
• 2:58
  that
• 2:58
  so
• 2:58
  that
• 2:59
  you
• 2:59
  don't
• 2:59
  waste
• 2:59
  time
• 2:59
  when
• 3:00
  you're
• 3:00
  on
• 3:00
  the
• 3:00
  water.
• 3:00
  I
• 3:00
  mean,
• 3:00
  that's
• 3:01
  a,
• 3:01
  that's
• 3:01
  a
• 3:01
  huge
• 3:02
  thing
• 3:02
  that
• 3:02
  you
• 3:02
  can
• 3:02
  work
• 3:03
  on.
• 3:03
  You
• 3:03
  know,
• 3:03
  as
• 3:03
  you
• 3:03
  mentioned,
• 3:04
  you
• 3:04
  can
• 3:04
  work
• 3:04
  on
• 3:04
  knots.
• 3:05
  Knots
• 3:05
  is
• 3:06
  a
• 3:06
  big
• 3:07
  deal.
• 3:07
  And
• 3:07
  you
• 3:07
  can
• 3:07
  tie
• 3:07
  those
• 3:08
  at
• 3:08
  home
• 3:08
  even
• 3:08
  when
• 3:08
  you're
• 3:08
  not
• 3:09
  on
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  water.
• 3:09
  But
• 3:09
  you
• 3:10
  know,
• 3:10
  also
• 3:10
  too,
• 3:10
  just
• 3:10
  that
• 3:11
  process
• 3:11
  when
• 3:11
  you
• 3:11
  get
• 3:12
  to
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  water
• 3:12
  about,
• 3:13
  know,
• 3:13
  observing
• 3:14
  and
• 3:14
  fishing,
• 3:15
  you
• 3:15
  know,
• 3:15
  if
• 3:15
  you're
• 3:15
  fishing
• 3:16
  upstream,
• 3:16
  you're
• 3:16
  going
• 3:16
  to
• 3:17
  fish
• 3:17
  close
• 3:17
  to
• 3:17
  far
• 3:17
  and
• 3:18
  back
• 3:18
  to
• 3:18
  front
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  things
• 3:19
  like
• 3:19
  that.
• 3:20
  Oh
• 3:20
  yeah,
• 3:21
  yeah,
• 3:21
  that's
• 3:21
  right.
• 3:22
  And
• 3:22
  just
• 3:23
  there's
• 3:23
  so
• 3:23
  many
• 3:24
  of
• 3:24
  those
• 3:24
  things
• 3:24
  that
• 3:24
  it
• 3:25
  really
• 3:25
  makes
• 3:25
  up
• 3:26
  the,
• 3:27
  you
• 3:27
  know,
• 3:28
  when
• 3:28
  you
• 3:28
  add
• 3:28
  all
• 3:28
  those
• 3:28
  little
• 3:28
  things
• 3:29
  up,
• 3:29
  it
• 3:29
  kind
• 3:29
  of
• 3:29
  makes
• 3:30
  up
• 3:30
  the
• 3:30
  big
• 3:31
  full
• 3:31
  picture.
• 3:33
  And
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  a
• 3:33
  way
• 3:33
  that's
• 3:34
  a,
• 3:34
  that's
• 3:35
  a,
• 3:35
  that's
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  lot
• 3:35
  of
• 3:35
  the
• 3:36
  fun
• 3:36
  part
• 3:36
  of
• 3:37
  the
• 3:37
  beauty
• 3:37
  of
• 3:37
  the,
• 3:38
  I
• 3:38
  guess,
• 3:38
  of
• 3:38
  the
• 3:39
  sport,
• 3:39
  you
• 3:39
  know,
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  lot
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  mystique
• 3:41
  to
• 3:41
  people
• 3:41
  that
• 3:41
  are
• 3:41
  new.
• 3:42
  But
• 3:42
  it's
• 3:42
  not
• 3:42
  really
• 3:42
  that
• 3:43
  much
• 3:43
  mystique,
• 3:43
  is
• 3:43
  it?
• 3:44
  Once
• 3:44
  you
• 3:44
  get
• 3:44
  into
• 3:44
  it
• 3:45
  and
• 3:45
  are
• 3:45
  doing
• 3:46
  it
• 3:46
  some.
• 3:46
  And
• 3:47
  also
• 3:47
  it's
• 3:48
  good
• 3:48
  time.
• 3:48
  Marvin
• 3:49
  too.
• 3:49
  I
• 3:49
  meant
• 3:49
  to
• 3:50
  say
• 3:50
  this
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  before
• 3:51
  we
• 3:51
  started
• 3:51
  about
• 3:52
  a
• 3:52
  shout
• 3:52
  out
• 3:52
  for.
• 3:54
  To
• 3:54
  Michael,
• 3:55
  Michael
• 3:55
  Bradley
• 3:56
  and
• 3:56
  Team
• 3:56
  USA
• 3:58
  for
• 3:58
  their,
• 3:59
  you
• 3:59
  know,
• 3:59
  he
• 3:59
  took
• 3:59
  third
• 3:59
  in
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  world
• 4:01
  last
• 4:01
  week
• 4:01
  in
• 4:02
  Czech
• 4:02
  Republic.
• 4:02
  That
• 4:03
  just
• 4:03
  happened
• 4:03
  last
• 4:03
  week
• 4:03
  since
• 4:04
  we
• 4:04
  spoke.
• 4:05
  And
• 4:05
  then
• 4:06
  Team
• 4:06
  USA
• 4:06
  took
• 4:07
  third
• 4:07
  over
• 4:07
  there
• 4:07
  in
• 4:07
  the
• 4:08
  Czech
• 4:08
  Republic
• 4:08
  too.
• 4:10
  Yeah,
• 4:10
  that's
• 4:10
  super
• 4:11
  cool.
• 4:11
  I
• 4:11
  saw
• 4:11
  his
• 4:12
  post
• 4:12
  on,
• 4:13
  I
• 4:13
  think
• 4:13
  it
• 4:13
  was
• 4:13
  on
• 4:13
  Facebook
• 4:13
  where
• 4:14
  he
• 4:14
  was
• 4:14
  holding
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  trophy
• 4:15
  up
• 4:15
  and
• 4:15
  about
• 4:15
  how
• 4:15
  proud
• 4:16
  he
• 4:16
  was
• 4:16
  not
• 4:16
  just
• 4:16
  for
• 4:16
  himself
• 4:17
  but,
• 4:17
  you
• 4:18
  know,
• 4:18
  for
• 4:18
  all
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  people
• 4:18
  that
• 4:18
  have
• 4:19
  supported
• 4:19
  him
• 4:19
  in
• 4:19
  his
• 4:19
  competitive
• 4:20
  fishing
• 4:20
  journey.
• 4:22
  Yeah,
• 4:22
  that
• 4:22
  was
• 4:23
  a,
• 4:23
  that
• 4:23
  was
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  cool
• 4:23
  thing.
• 4:24
  I
• 4:24
  mean,
• 4:24
  he's.
• 4:25
  He's
• 4:25
  been
• 4:25
  on
• 4:25
  a
• 4:26
  roll
• 4:27
  for
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  long
• 4:27
  time
• 4:27
  and
• 4:28
  it's
• 4:28
  starting
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  really,
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  know,
• 4:29
  pay
• 4:30
  off
• 4:30
  for
• 4:30
  him,
• 4:30
  too.
• 4:30
  So
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  think
• 4:31
  that's
• 4:31
  really
• 4:32
  a.
• 4:32
  So
• 4:32
  it's
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  really
• 4:33
  cool
• 4:34
  journey
• 4:35
  to
• 4:35
  see.
• 4:36
  See
• 4:36
  how
• 4:36
  it's
• 4:36
  all
• 4:37
  coming
• 4:37
  to.
• 4:38
  Coming
• 4:38
  to
• 4:39
  fruition
• 4:39
  for
• 4:39
  them.
• 4:40
  Yeah,
• 4:41
  absolutely.
• 4:41
  You
• 4:41
  know,
• 4:42
  to
• 4:42
  kind
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  come
• 4:42
  back
• 4:42
  to
• 4:42
  what
• 4:42
  we
• 4:43
  were
• 4:43
  talking
• 4:43
  about
• 4:43
  before,
• 4:44
  too.
• 4:44
  You
• 4:44
  know,
• 4:45
  one
• 4:45
  of
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  great
• 4:45
  things
• 4:45
  is
• 4:46
  if
• 4:46
  you,
• 4:46
  if
• 4:46
  you're
• 4:46
  traditionally
• 4:47
  a
• 4:47
  trout
• 4:47
  angler
• 4:48
  on
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  fly,
• 4:48
  if
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  go
• 4:48
  chase
• 4:49
  other
• 4:49
  species
• 4:50
  on
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  fly
• 4:50
  during
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  summer,
• 4:51
  it's
• 4:52
  going
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  make
• 4:52
  you
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  better
• 4:52
  trout
• 4:53
  angler.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:53
  this
• 4:53
  goes
• 4:53
  back
• 4:53
  to
• 4:54
  Matt,
• 4:54
  kind
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  what
• 4:54
  you
• 4:54
  were
• 4:54
  talking
• 4:55
  about
• 4:55
  earlier
• 4:55
  and,
• 4:56
  you
• 4:56
  know,
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  kind
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  a
• 4:57
  talk
• 4:57
  that
• 4:57
  I've
• 4:57
  done
• 4:57
  at
• 4:57
  the
• 4:58
  fly
• 4:58
  fishing
• 4:58
  show
• 4:58
  and
• 4:58
  other
• 4:59
  places
• 4:59
  about
• 4:59
  trout
• 4:59
  food.
• 5:00
  And
• 5:00
  you.
• 5:00
  And
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  just
• 5:01
  change
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  fish
• 5:01
  name.
• 5:02
  Right.
• 5:02
  And.
• 5:03
  And
• 5:03
  you
• 5:03
  start
• 5:04
  out
• 5:04
  that
• 5:04
  it's
• 5:05
  really,
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  know,
• 5:06
  what's
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  forage
• 5:07
  doing,
• 5:07
  what
• 5:07
  are
• 5:07
  the
• 5:08
  conditions
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  what's
• 5:08
  the
• 5:09
  fish
• 5:09
  doing?
• 5:09
  And
• 5:09
  then
• 5:09
  you
• 5:09
  basically
• 5:10
  incorporate
• 5:11
  that.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:11
  that'll
• 5:12
  make
• 5:12
  you
• 5:12
  more
• 5:12
  successful
• 5:13
  over
• 5:13
  time.
• 5:14
  That's
• 5:15
  right.
• 5:15
  Yeah.
• 5:15
  We're
• 5:15
  looking
• 5:16
  for
• 5:16
  the
• 5:17
  cicada.
• 5:17
  I
• 5:18
  mean,
• 5:18
  we're.
• 5:18
  We're
• 5:18
  hoping
• 5:19
  to
• 5:19
  find
• 5:19
  some
• 5:19
  cicada
• 5:20
  hatches
• 5:20
  this
• 5:20
  summer
• 5:21
  again
• 5:21
  and
• 5:22
  chase
• 5:22
  some
• 5:23
  grass
• 5:23
  carp.
• 5:24
  That's
• 5:24
  what
• 5:24
  I'm
• 5:24
  looking
• 5:24
  to
• 5:25
  do
• 5:25
  mostly
• 5:25
  in
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  middle
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  summer.
• 5:27
  As
• 5:27
  far
• 5:27
  as
• 5:27
  for
• 5:27
  around
• 5:28
  here,
• 5:28
  I'm.
• 5:28
  I'm
• 5:28
  probably
• 5:29
  going
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  head
• 5:29
  out
• 5:29
  west
• 5:30
  for
• 5:30
  a
• 5:31
  little
• 5:31
  bit
• 5:32
  just
• 5:32
  for
• 5:32
  some
• 5:33
  R
• 5:33
  and
• 5:33
  R
• 5:33
  and
• 5:33
  vacation
• 5:34
  time
• 5:35
  with
• 5:35
  the
• 5:36
  kids
• 5:36
  and.
• 5:36
  But
• 5:36
  when
• 5:37
  we're
• 5:37
  here,
• 5:37
  that's
• 5:38
  what
• 5:38
  I'm
• 5:38
  going
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  look
• 5:38
  at.
• 5:39
  Chasing
• 5:39
  more
• 5:39
  is
• 5:40
  carp.
• 5:41
  Yeah,
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  had
• 5:42
  some,
• 5:42
  some
• 5:43
  friends
• 5:43
  of
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  podcast.
• 5:44
  They
• 5:44
  were
• 5:44
  actually
• 5:45
  in
• 5:45
  Madison,
• 5:45
  North
• 5:45
  Carolina,
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  they
• 5:46
  said
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  cicadas
• 5:47
  were
• 5:47
  everywhere.
• 5:48
  Oh,
• 5:51
  wait
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  minute.
• 5:51
  Where's.
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  was
• 5:52
  thinking
• 5:52
  Madison
• 5:53
  County.
• 5:53
  Now,
• 5:53
  where
• 5:53
  is
• 5:53
  Madison,
• 5:54
  North
• 5:54
  Carolina,
• 5:55
  Marvin?
• 5:55
  It's
• 5:55
  in
• 5:55
  your
• 5:56
  neck
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  woods.
• 5:56
  It's
• 5:56
  somewhere
• 5:57
  in
• 5:57
  western
• 5:57
  North
• 5:57
  Carolina.
• 5:59
  It
• 5:59
  must
• 5:59
  be
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  county
• 6:00
  then.
• 6:00
  Cause
• 6:00
  Madison's
• 6:01
  what
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  grew
• 6:01
  up
• 6:01
  next
• 6:02
  to
• 6:02
  in
• 6:02
  Greenville,
• 6:03
  Tennessee.
• 6:04
  Madison
• 6:05
  county
• 6:05
  would
• 6:05
  be
• 6:05
  Hot
• 6:05
  Springs
• 6:06
  and
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  Laurel,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:07
  west
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  Asheville.
• 6:09
  I'm
• 6:09
  wondering
• 6:10
  if
• 6:10
  that's
• 6:10
  it.
• 6:10
  Yeah,
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  have
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  find
• 6:11
  that
• 6:11
  out
• 6:12
  because
• 6:13
  that'd
• 6:13
  be
• 6:13
  good
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  know.
• 6:14
  Some
• 6:14
  reason
• 6:14
  we
• 6:14
  always
• 6:15
  get
• 6:15
  missed.
• 6:15
  You
• 6:15
  always
• 6:16
  see
• 6:16
  these
• 6:16
  things
• 6:16
  on
• 6:16
  the
• 6:17
  Internet.
• 6:17
  And
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  made
• 6:18
  a
• 6:18
  post
• 6:18
  last
• 6:19
  year
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  cicadas
• 6:20
  at
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  big
• 6:21
  elm
• 6:21
  tree
• 6:21
  that
• 6:22
  was
• 6:22
  right
• 6:22
  next
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  our
• 6:23
  front
• 6:23
  yard.
• 6:24
  My
• 6:24
  aunt
• 6:24
  took
• 6:24
  and
• 6:25
  sent
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  us.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:25
  there
• 6:25
  was
• 6:26
  literally
• 6:26
  millions
• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  cicadas.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:27
  many
• 6:27
  cicadas,
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  Couldn't
• 6:28
  even
• 6:28
  see
• 6:28
  a
• 6:29
  blade
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  grass.
• 6:30
  That's
• 6:30
  how
• 6:30
  big
• 6:30
  it
• 6:30
  is
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  Ozarks
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  Missouri.
• 6:33
  And
• 6:33
  here
• 6:33
  they
• 6:34
  talk
• 6:34
  about
• 6:34
  it
• 6:34
  and
• 6:34
  you'll
• 6:35
  hear
• 6:35
  like
• 6:35
  one
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  whole
• 6:36
  season.
• 6:36
  When
• 6:36
  it's
• 6:36
  supposed
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  be
• 6:37
  epic,
• 6:37
  we'll
• 6:37
  hear
• 6:38
  one
• 6:38
  or
• 6:38
  two
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  it's
• 6:38
  like
• 6:39
  never
• 6:39
  see
• 6:39
  one.
• 6:40
  But
• 6:40
  we
• 6:41
  just
• 6:41
  don't
• 6:41
  have
• 6:41
  them,
• 6:41
  like
• 6:42
  for
• 6:42
  some
• 6:42
  reason.
• 6:43
  Swain
• 6:43
  county,
• 6:43
  next
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  national
• 6:44
  park
• 6:45
  where
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  live,
• 6:46
  we
• 6:46
  always
• 6:47
  get,
• 6:47
  you
• 6:47
  know,
• 6:48
  disappointment
• 6:48
  when
• 6:49
  they
• 6:49
  talk
• 6:49
  about
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  bid
• 6:50
  at
• 6:50
  big,
• 6:50
  epic
• 6:51
  Cicada
• 6:52
  Hatch,
• 6:52
  because
• 6:53
  it's
• 6:53
  nothing
• 6:53
  like
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  years
• 6:54
  when
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  worked
• 6:54
  New
• 6:54
  Zealand,
• 6:55
  like
• 6:55
  where
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  see
• 6:56
  them
• 6:56
  everywhere.
• 6:56
  Like
• 6:57
  here
• 6:57
  there's
• 6:57
  just.
• 6:58
  They're
• 6:58
  very,
• 6:58
  very
• 6:58
  sparse
• 6:59
  here.
• 6:59
  There's
• 7:00
  other
• 7:00
  places
• 7:00
  that
• 7:00
  do
• 7:01
  much
• 7:01
  better
• 7:01
  with
• 7:01
  them,
• 7:01
  for
• 7:01
  sure.
• 7:02
  But
• 7:02
  the
• 7:02
  hatch
• 7:02
  here
• 7:03
  has
• 7:03
  never
• 7:03
  really
• 7:04
  happened
• 7:05
  since
• 7:05
  85,
• 7:06
  that
• 7:06
  I've
• 7:06
  seen
• 7:06
  lots
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  them,
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  know.
• 7:08
  Yeah,
• 7:08
  and
• 7:08
  you
• 7:09
  were
• 7:09
  mentioning
• 7:09
  too,
• 7:09
  before
• 7:09
  we
• 7:10
  started
• 7:10
  recording
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  you're
• 7:10
  getting
• 7:11
  ready
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  launch
• 7:12
  your
• 7:13
  wet
• 7:13
  fly
• 7:14
  class
• 7:14
  with
• 7:15
  Davey
• 7:15
  Watten
• 7:15
  later
• 7:16
  in
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  fall.
• 7:16
  Right?
• 7:18
  Yeah,
• 7:18
  I'm
• 7:18
  going
• 7:18
  to
• 7:19
  put
• 7:19
  that.
• 7:19
  I'm
• 7:19
  thinking
• 7:20
  that'll
• 7:20
  be
• 7:20
  a
• 7:20
  project
• 7:21
  later
• 7:21
  this
• 7:21
  week
• 7:22
  to
• 7:22
  get
• 7:22
  that
• 7:23
  put
• 7:23
  out
• 7:23
  there
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  get
• 7:24
  it
• 7:24
  marketed
• 7:25
  and
• 7:26
  start
• 7:26
  putting
• 7:26
  it
• 7:27
  up
• 7:27
  there,
• 7:27
  sharing
• 7:27
  it
• 7:27
  and
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  kind
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  good
• 7:28
  stuff.
• 7:29
  So,
• 7:29
  yeah,
• 7:29
  we're
• 7:30
  excited
• 7:30
  to.
• 7:31
  To
• 7:31
  head
• 7:32
  down
• 7:32
  there
• 7:32
  and
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  know,
• 7:32
  that's
• 7:33
  where
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  first
• 7:33
  flew
• 7:33
  a
• 7:34
  fly
• 7:34
  in
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  river.
• 7:34
  That's
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  first
• 7:35
  river
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  ever
• 7:35
  put
• 7:36
  a
• 7:36
  fly
• 7:36
  in.
• 7:37
  When
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  was
• 7:37
  little,
• 7:38
  my
• 7:38
  granddaddy
• 7:38
  had
• 7:38
  a
• 7:39
  house
• 7:39
  there
• 7:40
  next
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  Flippin
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  a
• 7:41
  little
• 7:41
  town
• 7:41
  called
• 7:41
  Oakland,
• 7:42
  Arkansas.
• 7:44
  And
• 7:45
  yeah,
• 7:45
  so
• 7:46
  we've
• 7:46
  been
• 7:46
  going
• 7:46
  there
• 7:47
  really
• 7:47
  a
• 7:47
  big
• 7:47
  part
• 7:48
  of
• 7:49
  my
• 7:49
  growing
• 7:49
  up
• 7:50
  years,
• 7:50
  you
• 7:50
  know.
• 7:50
  And
• 7:50
  then
• 7:51
  it's
• 7:51
  funny,
• 7:51
  going
• 7:51
  back
• 7:52
  there
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  lot
• 7:52
  as
• 7:52
  an
• 7:52
  adult
• 7:53
  brings
• 7:54
  back
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  lot
• 7:54
  of
• 7:54
  memories.
• 7:56
  Yeah,
• 7:56
  absolutely.
• 7:57
  Do
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  have
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  dates
• 7:58
  so
• 7:58
  people
• 7:58
  can
• 7:58
  kind
• 7:58
  of
• 7:58
  keep
• 7:59
  them
• 7:59
  in
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  back
• 7:59
  of
• 7:59
  their
• 7:59
  mind
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  look
• 8:00
  for
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  social
• 8:00
  media
• 8:01
  posts
• 8:01
  and
• 8:01
  stuff
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  your
• 8:02
  website?
• 8:03
  Yeah,
• 8:03
  I've
• 8:03
  thought
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  dates
• 8:04
  on
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  site
• 8:05
  underneath
• 8:06
  specialty
• 8:06
  classes.
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  don't
• 8:07
  know
• 8:07
  them
• 8:08
  on
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  top
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  my
• 8:08
  head.
• 8:09
  I
• 8:10
  really
• 8:10
  don't
• 8:10
  because
• 8:10
  there's
• 8:11
  so
• 8:11
  many
• 8:11
  other
• 8:12
  schools
• 8:12
  and
• 8:12
  casting
• 8:13
  schools
• 8:13
  and
• 8:13
  other
• 8:14
  schools
• 8:14
  going
• 8:14
  on
• 8:14
  this
• 8:15
  fall.
• 8:15
  But
• 8:16
  they
• 8:16
  can
• 8:16
  find
• 8:16
  it
• 8:17
  out
• 8:17
  there
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  I'm
• 8:17
  sure
• 8:17
  it'll
• 8:18
  be.
• 8:18
  It'll
• 8:18
  be
• 8:19
  out
• 8:19
  on
• 8:19
  Instagram,
• 8:20
  Facebook
• 8:20
  and
• 8:21
  all
• 8:21
  that
• 8:21
  good
• 8:21
  stuff
• 8:21
  later
• 8:22
  in
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  week.
• 8:23
  Got
• 8:23
  it.
• 8:23
  And
• 8:23
  of
• 8:24
  course,
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  know,
• 8:24
  as
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  mentioned,
• 8:25
  no
• 8:25
  classes
• 8:25
  until
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  fall.
• 8:27
  But
• 8:27
  you
• 8:27
  are
• 8:28
  guiding
• 8:28
  and
• 8:28
  you've
• 8:28
  got
• 8:28
  folks
• 8:29
  that
• 8:29
  guide
• 8:29
  for
• 8:29
  you
• 8:29
  as
• 8:29
  well.
• 8:29
  If
• 8:30
  you're
• 8:30
  booked,
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  want
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  let
• 8:30
  folks
• 8:31
  know
• 8:31
  kind
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  how
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  reach
• 8:32
  out,
• 8:32
  find
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  and
• 8:33
  all
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  kind
• 8:33
  of
• 8:33
  good
• 8:33
  stuff.
• 8:35
  Yeah,
• 8:35
  sure.
• 8:35
  The.
• 8:36
  The
• 8:36
  easiest
• 8:37
  way
• 8:37
  is
• 8:37
  just
• 8:37
  hit
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  website
• 8:38
  MacBrownFlyfish.com
• 8:40
  and
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  works
• 8:41
  best.
• 8:41
  Sometimes
• 8:42
  I'll
• 8:42
  find
• 8:42
  a,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  post
• 8:44
  that
• 8:44
  somebody
• 8:44
  that
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  didn't
• 8:45
  know
• 8:46
  messaged
• 8:46
  me
• 8:46
  on
• 8:47
  Facebook
• 8:47
  from
• 8:47
  three
• 8:48
  months
• 8:48
  ago.
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  don't
• 8:49
  look
• 8:49
  at
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  stuff
• 8:50
  very
• 8:50
  often
• 8:50
  on
• 8:50
  social
• 8:51
  media,
• 8:51
  so
• 8:52
  best
• 8:52
  way
• 8:52
  to
• 8:52
  do
• 8:52
  it,
• 8:53
  it's
• 8:53
  like
• 8:53
  either
• 8:53
  call
• 8:53
  me,
• 8:54
  text
• 8:54
  me,
• 8:54
  or
• 8:54
  send
• 8:55
  an
• 8:55
  email.
• 8:56
  But
• 8:56
  a
• 8:57
  lot
• 8:57
  of
• 8:57
  these
• 8:57
  different
• 8:58
  things
• 8:58
  like
• 8:59
  LinkedIn
• 8:59
  messages
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  Instagram
• 9:01
  messages,
• 9:01
  just
• 9:02
  too
• 9:02
  much
• 9:02
  overwhelming
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  try
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  look
• 9:03
  at
• 9:03
  all
• 9:04
  that
• 9:04
  stuff
• 9:04
  all
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  time.
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  don't
• 9:05
  look
• 9:05
  at
• 9:05
  it
• 9:05
  much.
• 9:06
  So
• 9:07
  definitely
• 9:07
  email
• 9:08
  or
• 9:08
  text
• 9:08
  or.
• 9:09
  Or
• 9:09
  call,
• 9:09
  you
• 9:10
  know?
• 9:10
  Yeah.
• 9:10
  How
• 9:11
  do
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  feel
• 9:11
  about
• 9:11
  carrier
• 9:11
  pigeons?
• 9:14
  Go
• 9:14
  back
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  them,
• 9:15
  maybe.
• 9:15
  Maybe
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  way
• 9:16
  you'd
• 9:16
  know.
• 9:17
  Hey,
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  got
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  message.
• 9:18
  You
• 9:18
  know,
• 9:19
  that
• 9:19
  might
• 9:19
  be
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  good
• 9:19
  thing.
• 9:20
  Marvin.
• 9:20
  Yeah.
• 9:20
  What's
• 9:21
  your
• 9:21
  ham
• 9:21
  radio
• 9:21
  call
• 9:22
  sign?
• 9:22
  Maybe
• 9:22
  people
• 9:22
  can
• 9:22
  hit
• 9:23
  you
• 9:23
  up
• 9:23
  that
• 9:23
  way.
• 9:23
  Oh,
• 9:24
  yeah.
• 9:24
  You
• 9:24
  catch
• 9:24
  me
• 9:24
  on
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  radio.
• 9:25
  We've
• 9:25
  been
• 9:25
  doing
• 9:25
  a
• 9:26
  lot
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  HF
• 9:26
  at
• 9:27
  night.
• 9:27
  Hey,
• 9:27
  it's
• 9:28
  Alpha
• 9:28
  India
• 9:28
  4
• 9:29
  Juliet
• 9:29
  Lima's
• 9:30
  my
• 9:30
  ham
• 9:30
  call
• 9:30
  sign.
• 9:31
  Well,
• 9:32
  there
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  go,
• 9:32
  folks.
• 9:32
  Well,
• 9:32
  you
• 9:33
  know,
• 9:33
  as
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  say,
• 9:33
  this
• 9:33
  time
• 9:34
  of
• 9:34
  year,
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  owe
• 9:34
  it
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  yourself
• 9:35
  to
• 9:35
  get
• 9:35
  out
• 9:35
  there
• 9:35
  and
• 9:35
  catch
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  few
• 9:36
  tight
• 9:37
  lines,
• 9:37
  everybody.
• 9:38
  Tight
• 9:38
  lines,
• 9:38
  Mac.
• 9:39
  Tight
• 9:39
  lines.
• 9:40
  Marvin.