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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 4-3-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Oh, Happy Friday, everybody, Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: to Big Willies.
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  Speaker 2: So Colton Swan's going to join us at twelve thirty today,
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  Speaker 2: the Utah defensive coordinator, a former linebackers coach, spent a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time at Weaver State. Was a special teams
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  Speaker 2: coordinator up there was a linebacker's coach up there was
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  Speaker 2: a co defensive coordinator up there. I'm really really excited
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  Speaker 2: that Colton Swan is getting this opportunity at the University
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  Speaker 2: of Utah. We're going to dive into what that roster
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  Speaker 2: looks like, what he thinks this team needs to improve.
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  Speaker 2: And if you have any questions for Colton Swan, text
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  Speaker 2: them to me. If I decide that they're good questions,
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  Speaker 2: I will steal them. I will not give you credit
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  Speaker 2: at all, but I will steal the question. I'll ask
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  Speaker 2: it to the defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: This just came from my head, not from the text line.
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  Speaker 2: This is definitely not from Derek on the text line
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  Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, we're gonna air our grievances at one thirty,
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  Speaker 2: the Gov.
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  Speaker 4: Spencer Warren's gonna join us.
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  Speaker 2: We have some RSL and World Cup approaching World Cup
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. So it's gonna be a fun Friday show.
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  Speaker 5: This will be the first time in like three or
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  Speaker 5: four years that we've had the GOV on our airwaves.
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  Speaker 4: Is that true?
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  Speaker 5: After well, once they once the home of RSL changed
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  Speaker 5: radio stations, we we we felt like we we were
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  Speaker 5: under the impression that we that we weren't allowed to
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  Speaker 5: do that. Now we've got new information now, so we're
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  Speaker 5: welcoming the gove back after he was a mainstay on
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  Speaker 5: ESPN seven hundred, going back to call seven hundred sports.
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  Speaker 3: He's coming back today. So excited.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So we talked.
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  Speaker 2: We started the show yesterday talking about the I thought
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  Speaker 2: like to overlooked propose rule change in college football and
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  Speaker 2: basketball that is designed to prevent tampering.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask Bill Riley what he thinks about it, because.
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  Speaker 2: The idea that these ghost transfers are still a thing
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  Speaker 2: and you can potentially punish those in a way that
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  Speaker 2: is actually future altering or present altering for a team,
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  Speaker 2: I think is important because the general enforceability of rules
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  Speaker 2: has gone down in NCAA sports. And then you've got
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Tubberville out there who's trying to propose a new
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  Speaker 2: bill where you get five years of eligibility and you
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  Speaker 2: can you could transfer one time for free, but if
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  Speaker 2: you transfer a second time, that's when you have to
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  Speaker 2: sit out a year. And there's another proposal out there
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  Speaker 2: that transparency in the NIL space would be something that
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  Speaker 2: could help to calm the wild wild West nature of
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  Speaker 2: college sports right now. The Athletic did a really interesting
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  Speaker 2: exercise where they made requests. The Athletic does really good
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  Speaker 2: work in college sports, especially in my opinion, and they
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  Speaker 2: went out there and they put in a record's request
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  Speaker 2: for NIL salaries for revenue share salaries. Now, these are
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  Speaker 2: not the same sort of things as coaches salaries or
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  Speaker 2: food budgets or hey, how much money did you your
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  Speaker 2: public university football team spend on flights this year? If
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  Speaker 2: you want that information as a sports fan, you can
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  Speaker 2: go find it. You can get it because well, not
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  Speaker 2: for private universities, but you can get it for public universities.
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  Speaker 2: And of course even the bulk of Division I football
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  Speaker 2: programs power for football programs are still at public universities.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious to know how the forays and the partnerships
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  Speaker 2: with private equity affect the availability of records like that, right,
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  Speaker 2: because I know very little about what is allowed. If
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  Speaker 2: private equity owns a portion of your football program, owns
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  Speaker 2: a portion of your athletic department, can you put that portion,
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  Speaker 2: that records keeping portion in the private equity stuff? And now, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's private equity, that's their business. We don't have to
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  Speaker 2: share anymore what we're paying these coaches because we've decided
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  Speaker 2: to put that bucket of expenses in the private equity fund,
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  Speaker 2: privatizing effectively public universities, public university football coaching salaries and
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  Speaker 2: things like that. Now we have information available. USA Today
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  Speaker 2: does their list every year. They actually go beyond just
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  Speaker 2: what you can get on like the Utah's Right to
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  Speaker 2: Know website for taxpayers. They go so far as to
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  Speaker 2: look at what the tax returns for private entities might
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  Speaker 2: estimate or indicate, like a Lincoln Riley salary is at
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  Speaker 2: USC or what Marcus Freeman is making at Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't get the information from an agent, which
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  Speaker 2: usually you can, these big jay journalists they go out
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  Speaker 2: there and they dig up the numbers, and so we
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  Speaker 2: have transparency or relative transparency really on all of the
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  Speaker 2: power players in college football, college basketball. We know what
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  Speaker 2: they're spending, or we can find out what they're spending, right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they did this.
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  Speaker 2: With food budgets, They did this with flight budgets, They
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  Speaker 2: did this with with assistant coaching salary pools and all
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. The athletic tried to do this with nil
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  Speaker 2: salaries and nil revenue sharing money. Right, because right now
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  Speaker 2: there's these assumptions. And look, we all can go to
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  Speaker 2: the message boards and we all can see what so
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  Speaker 2: and so told so and so told so and so
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  Speaker 2: who works with so and so about how much money
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Fauna was making at Utah last year and how
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  Speaker 2: much money Devin dan Pierre is getting paid this next year.
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  Speaker 4: We did a.
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  Speaker 2: Whole, like fully hypothetical exercise on the program. James, When
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  Speaker 2: was this back in December? When I was just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I think you have to pay. This
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  Speaker 2: is what I think the market value is for these
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  Speaker 2: guys based on an athletic article.
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  Speaker 5: Right, and by the way, you were told we nailed
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  Speaker 5: every single one except for like one position. Right, we
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  Speaker 5: got apparently I got running backs really wrong. We underestimated
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  Speaker 5: how much money running backs were getting rightly overestimated, overestimated,
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  Speaker 5: and I drastically overestimated how much the cost of like
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  Speaker 5: a backup quarterback that had not yet been established was,
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  Speaker 5: and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So it was at the time it was a hypothetical exercise.
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  Speaker 4: He ended up being really good on that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying, and people, especially the message board crew,
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  Speaker 2: were just like, no, this he's an idiot.
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  Speaker 3: He has no idea how much money these guys are making.
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  Speaker 4: He's got no sources.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I talked to the people that know, right, and
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  Speaker 2: those people that know said, yeah, you were way off
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  Speaker 2: on this one because we were doing the show without asking, right,
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  Speaker 2: you were way off on this one.
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  Speaker 3: You were dead on on this one. And I was like, okay, wow.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so you didn't expect to be so dead
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  Speaker 5: on in the amount that you were.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, So it was just hypothetic one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I was just saying, like it was for
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  Speaker 2: the exercise of being like, we know that you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have roughly this amount of money at the University of Utah,
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  Speaker 2: right because they've told us, well, we will participate in
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  Speaker 2: the maximum revenue share, which last year was twenty point
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  Speaker 2: five million dollars, and I believe this year goes up
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  Speaker 2: to twenty three million dollars, twenty two million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, we're gonna participate in that.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously football doesn't get all of it, Basketball gets some whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And so we're like, okay, so sixteen million dollars to
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  Speaker 2: football from revenue share, how much money's come Okay, and
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  Speaker 2: you got another four or five million. So now we're like,
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  Speaker 2: we're flirting with twenty million dollars. How do you split
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  Speaker 2: up twenty million dollars between a roster? And the thing
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  Speaker 2: is that whole show was like guesswork. It was an exercise,
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  Speaker 2: and some of it was wrong, some of it was right,
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  Speaker 2: but there's no easily referenced Like I can do it
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  Speaker 2: with coaching salaries, right, I can do it with comparisons.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood was in the headlines because his agent wanted
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  Speaker 2: everyone to know, I got this kid so much money.
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  Speaker 2: Niko Yamalaiyava, same thing, I got this kid so much money.
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  Speaker 2: So their agents put out these numbers. Well the agents
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  Speaker 2: have started to like quiet that down. It's less available,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know, I really, I legitimately don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Like I have good idea on the Utah football numbers. Now,
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  Speaker 2: after I had some of those conversations, I truly don't
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  Speaker 2: know what Cody Campbell is paying these guys at Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 2: They were proudly boasting Texas Tech was about a twenty
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  Speaker 2: five million dollar budget football budget last year. Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: and Cody Campbell and the internal sources at Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: were pounding their chest about twenty five million dollars. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know what most media outlets said, thirty five million.
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  Speaker 2: That's a pretty hefty disp So one of the new
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  Speaker 2: proposals out there in the college football world is, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what if we demand transparency on these things? What does
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  Speaker 2: it actually do? And Mark Pope was quoted in this
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  Speaker 2: Athletic article like, whoa, whoa, All these people are telling
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  Speaker 2: me that I have a twenty two million dollar basketball budget.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, that is so far off. And then when
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  Speaker 2: the follow up question is, well how much money do
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  Speaker 2: you have? Nobody feels comfortable saying and what this does
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  Speaker 2: nil The market value of certain players or of certain
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  Speaker 2: positions can get inflated artificially because people don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the real numbers are, right and agents A lot of
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  Speaker 2: these agents are completely unregistered. They're not like the top
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  Speaker 2: top top players that know they're going to be NFL
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  Speaker 2: draft picks. Those guys are trying to retain an agent
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  Speaker 2: that is also an NFL agent.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the the CBA in pro sports leagues like the
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  Speaker 5: NFL and the NBA and sick you or I know
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  Speaker 5: those two for sure, you have to be registered with
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  Speaker 5: the Players Association in the league as a as a
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  Speaker 5: licensed certified agent right college athletics. As we've talked about
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  Speaker 5: many a time, one of the reasons why there's so
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  Speaker 5: much chaos, there is not a collective bargaining agreement that
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  Speaker 5: that tells you that whoever you, whoever you call your
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  Speaker 5: agent has to be certified, has to even know how
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  Speaker 5: to read a contract, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: So that's yeah, that muddies the waters here.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're you know, again, transfer portal window rules
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  Speaker 2: have changed, so if you're if we turn back the
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  Speaker 2: clock two, when Keanutanabas was getting flirted with by BYU
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  Speaker 2: and Utah wanted to keep him, right everyone, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you can you can verify this, you can go find this.
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  Speaker 2: There were people reporting that BYU had offered him one
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  Speaker 2: point five million dollars to be an interior defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 2: There were other people who claimed they knew for sure
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  Speaker 2: they talked to his dad, that he was getting one
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  Speaker 2: million dollars from BYU. There were people who said that
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  Speaker 2: Utah only plaid offered him and paid him three hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, right, And the.
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  Speaker 4: Truth is somewhere in these numbers. Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Is it information that we the college football fan, we
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  Speaker 2: the college football community?
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  Speaker 3: Is it information that we are entitled to?
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  Speaker 2: Is it information that you, as someone who might donate
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  Speaker 2: to an NIL collective, that you should know? Should it
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  Speaker 2: be transparent as a taxpayer where now revenue is shared
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  Speaker 2: with athletes? Should this be part of the disclosure when
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  Speaker 2: we're taught about spending. Because there are plenty of people
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  Speaker 2: out there who are totally fine with supporting Utah athletics
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  Speaker 2: as long as it goes to the football program. And
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  Speaker 2: there are probably smaller number of people, but still a
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  Speaker 2: number of people that are like, I will support Utah
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  Speaker 2: athletics fully as long as my money goes to the
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  Speaker 2: Red Rocks and women's basketball and whatever else. Right, And
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  Speaker 2: yet you can earmark your own funds and stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: the article written in the athletic They asked for everybody's payroll,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what one hundred and thirty two, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty five teams. Guess how many teams gave them
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  Speaker 2: an itemized player by player cost breakdown.
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  Speaker 3: I would say like fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: Fewer.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, it was one one team and it was James Madison.
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  Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, and James Madison made the college football playoff,
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  Speaker 2: and James Madison was just like, yep, here's how we
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  Speaker 2: spent our four million dollars. This is how much we
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  Speaker 2: gave the quarterback. This, how much we gave the wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver this?
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  Speaker 4: How much?
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  Speaker 2: Now, seven other schools, seven other athletic departments said this
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  Speaker 2: is the real number that we spent in nil and
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  Speaker 2: revenue share then and it was like, oh cool, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for sharing that number. How many athletes was this
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  Speaker 2: spread over? Five hundred and sixty one total athletes in
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  Speaker 2: the athletic department. Obviously most of them got zero from that, right,
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  Speaker 2: So one school gave an itemize report, seven schools gave
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  Speaker 2: a general like, yeah, this is how much money we spent,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone else the other one hundred and twenty odd
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  Speaker 2: said no, we're worried about sharing this information because these
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  Speaker 2: are trade secrets. We don't want this out there. We
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  Speaker 2: don't want people to know. Shane Biemer has talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: Several coaches have talked about it. How much you get paid,
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  Speaker 2: or how much your tight end is getting paid, or
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  Speaker 2: how much your whomever is getting paid, should be in
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  Speaker 2: their opinion, in the opinion of sum should be public information,
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  Speaker 2: the same way as hey, how much are we paying
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  Speaker 2: this dand coach? The public records request is out there,
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  Speaker 2: The taxpayers right to know is out there. Mario Christobal
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  Speaker 2: is on television right now. Mario Christaball is the head
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  Speaker 2: coach of a private university. Right Mario Cristobal came up
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  Speaker 2: short in a national championship game. Mario Cristobal is paid
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  Speaker 2: more than ten million dollars a year now at the
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  Speaker 2: University of Miami. And you know that not because you're
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  Speaker 2: entitled to that information from a private university, but because
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  Speaker 2: his agent wants you to know. The university wants people
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  Speaker 2: to know that we are compensating our coaches at or
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  Speaker 2: near the highest competitive level.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But when it comes to player compensation, it's easy to
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  Speaker 2: hide behind. Well, these are young people, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: want you don't want to put them in compromising situations.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to tell like every nineteen year old
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  Speaker 2: girl or nineteen year old boy out there are the
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  Speaker 2: people that they're going to see at parties, like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: this guy got two million dollars this year, this guy
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  Speaker 2: got four million dollars this year. This girl has five
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  Speaker 2: hundred grand coming in to play for South Carolina. It's
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  Speaker 2: easy to hide behind that while we're treating them as
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  Speaker 2: professional athletes. It's very easy to hide behind the guys
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  Speaker 2: but their kids, and we still need to protect them
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  Speaker 2: even though we don't do that in any other way.
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  Speaker 3: And I genuinely I mean this.
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  Speaker 2: I know that people probably tune in they want me
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  Speaker 2: to give you conclusions and hot takes. Do you feel
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  Speaker 2: like nil and revenue share and that? Do you need
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  Speaker 2: to know how much money Devin dan Pier is making
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  Speaker 2: as a Utah football fan? Do you want to know
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  Speaker 2: what Larry Simmons number is? Tobias Merriweather got dragged on
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  Speaker 2: this show and every other show because we heard, we
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  Speaker 2: knew or we thought we knew that he was paid
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  Speaker 2: pretty darn well and underperformed like I felt justified. I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving you the negative side. Of this equation. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: felt justified in being harder on any college on him
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  Speaker 2: than I have ever been on any college kid. Like
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  Speaker 2: you go back and listen to my twenty years of
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  Speaker 2: radio career. I think that is the hardest I have
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  Speaker 2: ever been verbally, vocally publicly on air about an individual player.
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  Speaker 2: And I felt justified in doing that, probably wrongly so
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  Speaker 2: because a little bird told me how much money they
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  Speaker 2: had spent to get him in the transfer portal, and
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  Speaker 2: news flash, it's more money than you and I make
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  Speaker 2: in a year. It's more money than you and I
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  Speaker 2: and most of you listening. It's more money than all
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  Speaker 2: of us make. Has more money, me and James make.
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  Speaker 2: Put together, there's more money probably than me and Spence
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  Speaker 2: and anyone else. So you're at the station make together.
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  Speaker 2: And so I was like, you know what, And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, I'm making assumptions. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: but but you know, and maybe that is the reason
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  Speaker 2: why it's better to keep these things quiet, because then
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  Speaker 2: you get some blow hard radio hosts being like, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, this kid better be good. He better catch
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  Speaker 2: these balls, he better get open, he better not fumble,
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  Speaker 2: he better do this, he better do that.
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  Speaker 4: Because I am.
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  Speaker 2: I am now entitled to know how much this person makes,
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  Speaker 2: and this person makes a lot, and so this person
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  Speaker 2: deserves criticism. It's something we do to professional athletes, and
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  Speaker 2: we have started to do more to college athletes. And
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  Speaker 2: it was a faux pas five or six years ago
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  Speaker 2: to just really be like cut this kid, bench this kid,
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  Speaker 2: fire this kid because they were amateurs.
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  Speaker 3: James, where do you stand on it?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think nil and revenue share and player salaries
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  Speaker 2: in college is public or should be public information?
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  Speaker 3: That's tough.
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  Speaker 5: Let me just let me just walk you through a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of what's going through my head. Number one,
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  Speaker 5: As a media professional, I believe like one of the
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: things that you're taught, one of the things that even
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: if you didn't go to any kind of broadcaster journalism school,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: you infer and you learn in this business is that
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: any information you can, any information that can be public,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: should be public. That's that's kind of the default, right
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: because it makes our jobs easier and we feel like
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: we can better hold institutions, teams, franchises, schools, whatever, more accountable,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: which is part of our job as as media if
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: we know that, if we know the information out right, right,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: So I have that. I have that sort of default
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: mindset because of being in this business.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Oh see.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: But I also can't help but think about the unintended
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: consequences of that, which is, we're in the social media age,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Internet age, right, and everybody with the phone and a
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: social media account. We don't need, we don't need every
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: rando who's mad at the who's mad at how the
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: team performed, but doesn't actually know what they're looking at,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: dragging every player because they know exactly how much they're
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: making too. I can understand why why schools and conferences
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: and the NCAA, whoever is wanting to push back on
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: this transport wants to do that because they're thinking about
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: that too. Think about all the all the flack that
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: people all the harassment that people do because they lose
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: money on how much they bet someone's statline might be yeah, right,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and these on these fantasy games, or or because they
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: bet the under on on something and and this guy
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: or they bet the over on on something and this
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: guy vastly underperformed and the team loss. Like it's I
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: can see why they would say we want to protect
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: and I think it's viable reason, like we need they
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: don't need that kind of public scrutiny. Now I think
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: that they absolutely not that they need it, but I
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: think it's absolutely fair to say the media should be
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: able to scrutinize the players like that. But you're when
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: you're making a public it's not just the media, that's right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Look, the NFL players have to deal with it, yeah, right,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and and they do. And one thing that is important
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: to state is I can I can complain and cry
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: about a player's performance or praise a player's performance, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when they're driving to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: their fully paid off house at age twenty one in
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: their brand new F one point fifty that's fully paid off,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and they're leaving school with three million dollars in the bank,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the opinions of a sheep matter not to a lion,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, if you're coming out
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: on the positive side of the relationship anyway, if the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: if the money's still coming in and you're able to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: set yourself up for the future. Maybe one of the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: trade offs is that you got to listen to some
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: loud mouse.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: It's probably not fair.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But you can also just go be an engineering student
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and try to try to do things that way.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean genuinely.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And this is why I appreciate the athletic as an
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: outlet so much, because they ask a question that you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: know a lot of other people aren't asking.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Should this be public?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Mark Pope says yes, Brian Kelly says yes, Shane Biemer
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: says yes. Plenty of coaches are just like no man.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: A coach speaking on the on the assumption of anonymity,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: said I if I if we tell everyone that my
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: recruiting budget, my NIL budget is seventeen million dollars, then
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: my rival goes seventeen million in one.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And so I don't want it to be public.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I look at it from a lens of like you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: gonna deal especially in Utah, You're gonna deal with BYU
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: for time immemorial, right, And that's a private institution with
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: big money donors. And we heard the numbers around aj
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: DEPONSA and that entire basketball rosters all over the board
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: this year. For me, and maybe because I'm self centered
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and I want it all to be easier for me.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: For me, I would love to be able to sit
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: down because of information that is freely available. Because the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: system demands it and say, by US basketball budget this
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: year with sixteen million dollars for players, if you're going
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to try to beat them every single year, you got
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to get to that level.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Or if it's ten.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Million dollars, or if it's four million dollars or if
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: it's eleven million dollars or whatever it is, it does
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: informationally level the playing field. Now, it doesn't make money
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: grow on trees. So you know that, Oh they got
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: eleven million, I need eleven million too, and boom poof
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: eleven million come out of nowhere.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: If Cody Campbell and Texas Tech are willing to tell you, hey,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it's twenty five million, should we take their word at
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: twenty five million?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Or do you really spend thirty five.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Is you USC's roster this year really a forty million
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: dollar roster that, like the the Internet streets are saying,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: is Oregon's roster this year really a thirty five million
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: dollar roster?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Like the Internet streets are saying.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of transparency here, even if it
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: means that you have to report at the University of
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Utah or at Utah State or at Cincinnati or whatever.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: When Texas Tech rolls out their big red carpet. It's
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: forty million here and you got to put the number
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: twenty down. Well, maybe that's a call to action for
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: donors that have been dormant, or for people in your
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: athletic community that don't really realize how significant the disparity is.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I think people are doing good jobs on these campuses
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and making sure that the powers that be, the folks
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: that are potentially helpful, do know what the disparity is.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I know that the fundraisers at the University of Utah
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: are not about telling people telling donors, Hey, this is
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: what BYU's got, this is what Texas Tech has got,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: this is what Arizona State is coming up with. Right now,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: what do you want our teams to have? I know
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that they're doing a really good job in that. Does
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: it change your relationship with it as a fan?
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I think?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's the cost of doing business
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: for a player. Now, you want to be a professional
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: athlete while you're in college, Let's treat it like professional athletics.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I want to know how much you're getting paid. I
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: want to know what your contract is. I want to
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: know if you're living up to that contract. I want
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: to know if my team is spending on par with
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: what other teams are spending. We know that in Major
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: League Baseball, we like everybody knows that the Twins in
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the A's are underspenders, and everybody knows that the Dodgers
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and the Mets have the highest payroll. And it doesn't,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, diminish our interaction with the product. If anything,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it makes us more informed consumers and fans.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: It helps your expectations in in those sports right and
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: it and it helps you feel better if if the
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: like you being a Twins fan, if the Twins are
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: playing well, because you're like, look at look at how
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: much they're doing more with less here.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's uh, definitely true.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: The other the other point that comes to mind here
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: is we call college athletes kids, but they're not miners.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: So most of them are.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess there's some that that are in their
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: freshman year. There are very few, very few, but most
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: of them are not miners. So I don't know that
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: we I don't know that they're there. Certainly isn't It
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: doesn't seem to be a legal standing to be like
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: we need to protect them from from the things that
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I was talking about because it's like, legally, we've determined
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: that they are of age to be able to handle
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: this kind of stuff.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: It is really interesting, and it's a it's a double
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: standard in our society where we're like, if an eighteen
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: year old kid, and I'm gonna say it because that's
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: how I feel about if an eighteen year old kid
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: approaches you with some stupid idea, or an eighteen year
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: old kid runs into the side of your car or whatever, like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: your reaction to that is going to be a lot
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: different than if it's a thirty one year old or
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: a twenty five year old even, right, you're gonna allow
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: some level of like grace and flexibility, like, oh, just
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: a stupid kid, it's a mistake.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Young dumb brain not fully developed yet.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Whatever. Right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: So we do that for the general young people, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it's usually like even after you're twenty one, people are
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: just say, oh, well, he's only twenty two, he's only twenty.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Three, whatever, right. We do it least for professional athletes.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: If you're in the military at age eighteen, we expect
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you to be like a fully realized and actualized human
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that is making life and death decisions for yourself. For
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the people we're in conflict with, we gonna judge you
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: like your forty no matter what your age is. We
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: don't if you're in that role, we don't say it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: just a just a dumb kid. Right in college, we've
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: been like, yeah, you're just kind of a dumb kid.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: And now.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Now we've given we've stacked the decks so in favor
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: of these young dumb kids that we're not willing to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: call them young dumb kids anymore.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And I think that's probably fair.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Like you guys wanted full autonomy on transfer, full autonomy
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: on pay, full autonomy on everything that's grown up stuff,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you're grown up now.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think where I net out o CE is
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I think transparency is a good idea. It's just it's
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: it's not it's not so cut and dry though for me,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: it's I can see why beyond just trying to hoard information,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: trying to get away with not telling everyone what what's
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: going on at your institution, beyond that kind of stuff,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I can see all reasons why why they'd want to
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: protect some of that information. But I net out on
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: let's just make it transparent.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: That's where I think I come out on it as well.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: What do you think eight seven seven three five three
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: zero seven hundred got to take a break. Bill Riley,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the Voice of the Utes, joins us next. Remember Colton
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Swan joining us in one hour. He'll be on with
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: us at twelve thirty. The DC at the University of Utah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Lots left to get to. It's a Friday on the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven ninety two one FM.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: You tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: one AF.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: AM, Sean O'Connell show here on a Friday, and we're
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: lucky enough to check in with the Voice of the Utes,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: Bill Riley, who now is sometimes I'm filing host here.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: On the shot of Cottle show.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Bill, you've knocked the rust off last Friday hosting a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: whole show for me and I came back to like
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I anticipated a lot of praise on the text line
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: for your return.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: How was it from your perspective?
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: It was fun. I mean it was like kind of
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: riding the bike and wasatch front Kia. I probably have
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: done now fifty seven remotes in my career at Wassatch
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: Front Kia up in August. They were great, and yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: it was it was It was just fun to to
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: pop me. You know. I think there were a few
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: people that were a bit confused by the messaging the
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: station put out. I'm not back full time. I am
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: simply shitting for Sean when he goes out on assignment.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: But I do appreciate you letting me sit in the airchair,
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: and I appreciate all the kind words from people, but
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: I am I'm more than happy to sit in from
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: time to time, but I do have a full time
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: job that occupies my Monday through Friday. So it was fun, though,
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: thanks for letting me do it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It sounds like next Friday, strong chance that you'll get
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: another dose of Bill because we've got a PFL event
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: in Chicago and Bill Riley I think might make some
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: free time. So that'll be the next special edition, potentially
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: of the Sean O'Connell Show. Right now, Utah spring football underway.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It was nice to see some practice the other day.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Went up there on Tuesday, and you know, this is
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: this is an interesting time for Utah football and you
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: can't really measure vibes and you can't really put any
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: kind of number on atmosphere at practice, but one thing
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that was very evident, and it's unfair to Kyle Whittingham
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: to pretend that he did practice wrong because his results
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: would say otherwise.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: But it's clear really different now.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: It's a little bit lighter, it's a little bit more
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: hyped maybe, And you know, the coaches and players mentioned
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that that there is a different feel to practice, which okay, wonderful, great,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: What does that actually do when we get to the
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: fall if anything in your mind, I don't.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: Know if you can measure anything tangibly by the way
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: spring football should be exactly what that is. It should
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: be light, it should be fun. It should because because
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: you're not determining anything in spring football, you know you're
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: out there, you're six months still away from the season beginning,
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: so it should not be life or death. And I
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: think that vibe is perfect for spring football. You know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: this spring is a little different than maybe next spring
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: will be because you're installing a new offense. You've got
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: a bunch of new coaches, as is always the case
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: in college football. Now you get a bunch of new players.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: So I I think it should be somewhat businesslike, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: I think the attack that Morgan is taking is good.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: Those vibes that you talked about Sean, which I've been
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: able to be around kind of because I work up
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: there and on a regular basis, those feel like they're
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: kind of translating to the field too, and everybody's got
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: a really good energy about them. I think it will
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: probably change a little bit once you get the fall practice,
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: because then you're three and a half weeks away from
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: the season beginning, and you're a little bit more focused
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: on some hard and fast details. But I think their
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: approach they're taking is the right approach. How that impacts
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: the fall of the season, I don't have any idea.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You and I talked last week about, you know, the
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: obvious questions that surround this team, offensive line probably being
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the most obvious of them, but they're you know, the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: wide receiver room looks good. We saw some big plays
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: made at the media availability. In practice, the linebacker room,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, looks really really deep. Your trench play
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: is always going to be an incredibly important thing, whether
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: for the University of Guitar or any team in the country.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: And one thing that if they're I don't want to
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: call it a criticism because it's more of a curiosity
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: for me. When you go out and watch, like the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, there's been a bunch of dudes
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that you look at that field, they passed the eyeball test.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You're just like, oh my, gosh, look how big that
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: linebacker is. Oh my goodness, look at that defensive lineman.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Oh my, And that's a little bit less evident so
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: far in my opinion.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Does that matter?
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: H Well, I mean I think it will eventually matter.
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: I think what matters most right now is figuring out
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: who those guys are and figuring out.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: How.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: I've kind of equated it to it being kind of
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: a big puzzle right now, especially on the offensive line.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: Jordan Grosse has a lot of really good puzzle pieces.
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: But where do they all fit? You know, guy like
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: Kelvin Obod is he definitively your left tackle or might
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: he begin inside and then eventually slide outside? Does he
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: play on the right? Does a guy that's been, you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: a backup at guard for most of his career, but
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: he's been in the system, he's four years developing physically
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: in college football, Maybe he slides outside because his body
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: is more tackle like right now, and he's got more
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: college reps than some of these younger guys. I don't know.
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: I just I think physically they're fine. I think athletically
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: and physically they're fine. I think it's some of these
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: positions that we talk about offensive line a lot, just
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: simply because there's five new guys that are going to
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: be starters this year. I just think, right now is
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: that figure it out time? And if you come away
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: mid April when practice ends, having a pretty good feel
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: for your personnel, then I think you can hone in
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: a little bit more. When Paul begins, it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Wasn't fully unsolicited, but it was something. It was like
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: a point that Morgan scally was going to make, whether
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: or not he was asked about it, and very pointedly
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: he looked at us in the eye on Tuesday afternoon
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and he said the number one positive so far in
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: spring camp has been Daniel Bray and complimented what he
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: did to change his body, his work ethic, all of
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: these things. He already looked pretty darn good when we
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: saw him integrated into the lineup last year. If he
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: makes a massive forward leap like Morgan is suggesting what
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: does that do for the offense.
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: It's another weapon for Kevin mcgiven. I mean, he was
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: pretty dynamic, as you said. It's funny you say Morgan
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: said that. When we met with all the assistant coaches
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: and coordinators about a week ago, Mark Otchuwaia brought him
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: up and Kevin mcgiven brought him up as well. So
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: it's not just the head coach, it's the guys that
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: are dealing with him on a pretty regular basis. He's
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: a dynamic, explosive guy. Now, he's not the biggest dude. Yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: he's not gonna you know, you're not gonna put him
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: on the rack. He's not gonna be six feet tall
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: by the time fall begins. He's five ft nine and
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: a half. But we saw glimpses of his dynamism is
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: the right word, dynamicism.
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: Dynamicism I think of the dynamism.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, I'll trust you. You're a very worldly and worthy man.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: I think he's I think he's got a real possibility
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: not just to be a gadget guy, Sean, but to
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: be a guy that could have a really big role
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: with this offense because his speed and his explosiveness is
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: real I don't know that anybody had, and way Shaw
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: Parker is a fantastic back, but he doesn't have that
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: burst that Daniel Bray does. So to hear that he's
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: having a really good spring. Because we know what was
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: Shawn Parker is. We don't quite I know what Steven
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Chavez Soto is yet, but based on tape and what
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: we saw from him at San Jose State, he's probably
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: a little bit more of the physical, pounding back. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: think if you've got that in Bray, then all of
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: a sudden, you've got three really good running backs that
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: have three different skill sets but one. I mean, you
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: can never have too much playmaking and explosiveness, So that
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: has to be kind of excited for Daniel Bray.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: The voice of the he is Bill Riley, our guest
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: here on the Sean O'Connell Show on a Friday. I mean,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: we'll probably I'll beat this point to death. It is
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: such a unique scenario for Utah to have Devin Dampierre
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and Bird Ficklin in camp. They're so close to friends,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: they're both being compensated well, and somehow it worked last year.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Somehow they both decided it was going to work again
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: this year for each guy to be on the roster,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and of course Bird is younger, but there's a lot
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: of guys in college football right now, especially who scored
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: ten touchdowns as a freshman, who say, no, I'm not
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: sitting behind anyone. I'm taking I'm not taking a back
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: seat to anybody right now. And I don't know exactly
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: how those two would characterize the dynamic, but it's clear
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: in watching them develop together that they push one another,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: they help one another. And I don't know how you
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: find a way to get the ball in both guys
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: hands effectively and consistently in these games without a creating
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: a strange dynamic. Do we trust that that Kevin mcgiven
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: will be able to do that?
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing. I mean, it wasn't like Berg
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: Ficklin stuck around and didn't know Devin dan Pierre was
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: coming back as quarterback one. This wasn't some sort of
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: out of the blue. These guys are best friends. They
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: do everything together. Bert Fickland threw out the first pitch
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: at one of the Utah baseball games over the weekend.
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: Who was right there with him cheering him on. He
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: came out on a Saturday more to watch his buddy
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: throw the first pitch out. I mean, I've got a
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: lot of good friends. I'm probably not gonna do that,
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: but that's what Devin dan Pierre did. These guys are tight,
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: and I don't think that bird Ficklin has any sort
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: of thought that he's going to be winning the job
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: in fall camp. I think he knows what his role is.
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: He's quarterback two, but his quarterback too in a limited role.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: Last year, as you just mentioned, he scored ten touchdowns.
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: He's now going to be a better football player in
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: year number two. And Kevin mcgiven took the job knowing
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: he had not one, but two weapons at quarterback. So
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: among all the things i'm really excited to see with
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: Kevin mcgibbon's offense this year, near the top is going
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: to be how he utilizes Bird Fickland, because I can't
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: imagine he's only going to utilize bird Ficklin situationally. Oh,
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: here's a series in the second quarter, here's a series
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: in the third quarter. He's too good an athlete, too
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: good a weapon, and he's back to what we were
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: saying about Daniel Bray. He's explosive, Sean, I mean, as
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: good as Devin is. Devon isn't explosive like Bird Ficklin is,
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: so I think he's going to have a defined role.
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: You mentioned he scored ten touchdowns last year. There's guys
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: that are going in the NFL Draft as running backs
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: and wide receivers this year that didn't have ten touchdowns.
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: Last year he was a part time player. I think
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: his role gets bigger this year, and I think he's
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: going to have a very big impact on the Utah offense.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: There was a really interesting rule change proposed push through
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: to eliminate tampering and ghost transfers as they were characterized
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: by the NCAA. Now, if you have a scenario where
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: a player unenrolls, doesn't do the transfer portal thing, but
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: unrolls and then re enrolls somewhere else, presumably as a
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: walk on, but a walk on that has been lured
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: with nil, the Xavier Lucas scenario, the Jake retz Laft scenario,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: although his situation was a little bit different because he
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: didn't have the option of coming back to BYU.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: But it's I like it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I clearly I think it's an effort, an attempt to,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you know, send a message that hey We're gonna suspend
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: your head coach for six games if this happens, and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: we're gonna find your school a really punishing amount of
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the football budget. But the lack of attention to it
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: indicates to me that nobody really thinks that even if
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: a penalty like that were levied, it could actually be enforced.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Morgan Scally and his staff are
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: worried about the ghost transfer thing or worried about tampering
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: with no transfer portal.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: At the end of spring. You're a little bit closer
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: to it than I am.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: So give me a sense of what you think of
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: that rule, it's enforceability, and how big a concern it
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: really is for this Utah team.
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: Well, I haven't talk to Morgan or any of his
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: staff about that, but that could be a fun out
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: of spring football between now and ball conversation, you know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: off air on air, I mean, I love Sean, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: love the rule. I mean, I think it's fantastic. I
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: want to see it enforced once, because it's one thing
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: to have the rule. You know that, It's one thing
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: to have the rule on the books. It's another thing
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: to enforce it. If you drop that hammer one time
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: that will send the message. But having the rule and
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: never enforcing it, I don't know what that really means. Yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: it's a threat, but somebody out there is going to
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: test it, because we know somebody out there is always
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: going to try to get the edge, and somebody out
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: there is always going to say, well, yeah, it's all
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: the books, but they're not going to really do it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: We're gonna have to see it put into effect for
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: me to really believe the teeth behind it. But I
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: do love the I do love the idea behind it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: I think it's fantastic because it's not just the financial punishment.
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: Let's say you find a million dollars is no chump
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: change in this day and age. Some schools have it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: But if you go after the head coach and that
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: head coach is suspended for four or six games without pay, well,
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: now all of a sudden, that's where you're really hitting it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: So yeah, I love the idea of the rule. Let's
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: see if it ever actually gets enforced.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: The NCAA basketball Transfer Portal opens officially in four days,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and there's already been some announcement that, you know, some
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: running utes intend to enter the transfer port Both on
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the man's end women's side, But Alex Jensen heading into
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: year number two, obviously he'll be a little more established.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: It was not the year that he wanted, it was
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: not the year that the players wanted, and they're going
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to have to make some waves in the transfer portal.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: What does that look like for this running Utes basketball program?
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Because we know that nil and revenue share that that
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: is a big part of people's decisions to either come
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: to your school out of a transfer or not.
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: I don't know what it looks like, but I do
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: know to your point, they are so much better positioned
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: this year to go attack the portal, both financially and
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: especially especially preparedness.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: They have been.
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: You know, Wes Wilcox has been on the job now
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: almost a full year. He is a I mean, this
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: has been his job all the way through. It's roster
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: management and roster construction, and so I know that he
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: and the staff have been trending towards this for months now.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: But this has been obviously Wes' job from day one.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: So they are going I don't know what it's going
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: to look like. Nobody knows who's going to come, who's
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: going to go. Stuff like that. But what I do
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: know is their plan and they're attack because you know,
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: conversations off the air, just talking to the guys, they
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: feel like they're in a million percent better situation because
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: they've been here one they're all on the job. A
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: year ago at this time, the staff wasn't completely in
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: place yet and Alex was wrapping up his NBA season
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: with the Dallas Mavericks. There was a lot of stuff. Well,
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: they also didn't know what a season was like in
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: the Big Twelve. Now they know. I have Wes Wilcott
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: on my podcast about a month ago Crimson Corner, and
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: he talked about it. He goes, yeah, we know we
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: have to get bigger and more physical, and that they
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: know what a big to what a good team in
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: the Big twelve looks like. So all of that is there.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: And I don't know what their roster coming and going
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: is going to officially look like yet, but I do
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: know as the portal opens on Tuesday next Tuesday, the
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: day after the championship game, Utah Basketball will be in
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: a really good position to go hard at what they need.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: What is the what is the worst story you have,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the worst cost you paid for sleeping in extra long,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: like the Royals catcher carterge ensign.
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: I almost missed a flight one for sleeping into too long.
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: But other than that, I've had occasions where when I
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: used to do mornings, I would take a nap in
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: the afternoon and I would wake up and I would
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: look at my clock and it would say six am.
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: I was on at six am, and I was like,
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know if it's six am or six pm.
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: At six am, I didn't miss it, but yeah, my guy,
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: Carter Jensen, contention and contention for Rookie of the Year
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: in the AL, made a rookie mistake that I'm sure
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: he will not ever make again.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: It is what it is.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Abs you like it, you don't like it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: How do you feel, as we're now a couple of
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: weeks into this being Major League Baseball?
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: Oh? I love it. I just the way it's almost
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: You've watched tennis for years. Tennis has had this technology
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: and place. It's a quick review. Nobody's second guess is
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: it boom? It's there. Catcher taps his helmet, they look
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: at it. It's a ball, it's a strike. Pitcher or batter.
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: They're the only ones that can do it. I think
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: it's been fantastic and it's gonna make umpires. I'm not
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: for doing away with umpires. I think umpires have a
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: tough job and they, you know, ninety five ninety seven
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: percent of time get it right. But I love the
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: fact that that technology is in place. It's a quick
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: review and you go from there. Hell, we had a
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: walk off the other day to City Orioles, the catcher
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: for the Orient Challenge, the fall a strike in the
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: ninth It was a strike and boom, the game was over.
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: So I like it.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: What about you?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like how quickly it is enforced to the
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: point that you just made. If it was one of
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the if it was like a football review where you know,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: you got to walk over under a hood or something
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: like that. Baseball's already long enough so and already slow enough.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: But the fact that it's executed so quickly, I am
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: curious to see how it affects player umpire, you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: league umpire relations moving forward, because you know, it's the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: ultimate authority belongs to the machine rather than to the person,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: which makes the calls more accurate and to the credit
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: of the umpires even when they miss. In all of
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: these reviews they're missing. It's like, oh, look at that,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: he's an eighth of an inch off. It's like, okay,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: that's I'm okay with that level of human error. It's
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: probably good that they're taking it out in the high
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: stakes baseball games. But I am curious to see how
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: that dynamic unfolds and evolves because of it. I mean,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: if an umpire Cebe Buckner keeps getting it wrong, then
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: he's a laughing stock in the league, and I don't
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: know if you can let him umpire anymore.
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: Well, that's true. I mean, this is where you've got
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: to do your job better. That's all there is. I mean,
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: like you said, the eighth of the inch not a
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: big deal. But we've seen umpires over the years give
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: you six or seven inches inside or outside or whatever
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: that might happen. The days of the we're gonna move
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: this game along big strike zone, I think those days
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: are over.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Speaking of baseball, you've got you got some Utah baseball
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: up there at Charlie on four Field and other places
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: that you're calling right now.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: This weekend. You got a series, right.
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: No, they're on the road this weekend. They played another
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: insane game last night, Unfortunately they lost. They gave up
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: four home runs in the bottom of the night. They
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: were leading twelve nine lost fourteen to nine. Utah only
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: plays crazy off the rails games. They came back to
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: beat Kansas State on a cycle and a walk off
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: with home runs last weekend. They're on the road, but
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: they'll be back home in a couple of weeks. If
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: you've knock been up, Sean, I know you've been busy
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: in traveling. You should bring the girls up. You can
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: sit on the berm and the grass, let them run
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: around whatever. The baseball stadium is spectacular, Charlie Montford Field
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: at America First Ballpark on campus. They've been getting great crowds.
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: I'm kind of glad they're not home today because the
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: weather isn't great. But it's been fantastic. So if anybody
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: gets a chance, they'll be home in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 5: Twitter reporting a seven million dollars or a pay raise
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: up to seven million dollars something like that, that he'll
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: be just that Arizona is giving him to stay. So,
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, he doesn't have that kind of leverage if
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: he comes right out and says, I'm not taking the job.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Look, it's the right.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if he wanted to say, even if
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: North Carolina called him and he was like, no, not interested,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: his agent is not gonna let him just say, well,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: come on, man, like you gotta you gotta play the
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: game a little bit here. Let me let me take
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: this information to Arizona and let's get you some more money,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: if not even for you for your assistance, Let's let's
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: increase what increase the nil, buddy, Let's get you more
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: money in some way. Let's increase the commitment to nil.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Oh man, that's terrible, Seth Greenberg and Andrhees Davis are
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: wearing the same suit jacket.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Oh four coverage? What are we doing? Guys?
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: At least bookend them right. If they're in the same jacket,
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: you gotta move. You gotta reese on one end, set
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: on the other. They got them right next to each other.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, if that is remarkable. They are fully matchy matchy.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: The pants are different. They have different pants if that slacks,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I guess different ties too, but but yeah, different shirts
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: even But come on, fellas, suit is exactly the suit.
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  Speaker 4: Check where's the wardrobe department on this?
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  Speaker 2: So congratulations to the University of Arizona for retaining your
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: head coach. Tommy Lloyd is sticking around. We need to
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: get a PGA Tour leaderboard update in here, James, So
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  Speaker 4: Never.
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  Speaker 5: Robert McIntyre is your leader that I know. That's a
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  Speaker 5: little Tony, where are you? That's a a little bit
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: tough to take because when we signed off yesterday, and
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  Speaker 5: I think when Spence did his first leaderboard update on
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  Speaker 5: the drive yesterday, Tony was still leading yesterday afternoon, but
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: he has been overtaken since then. Robert McIntyre at fourteen under.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: He just finished his second round. He's got a four
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: shot lead on Ludwig Oberg who just finished his second
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: round at He's at ten under. Stephen Fisk is solo
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: third at nine under. He's got two more holes left.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: He's on the or he's got one more hole left.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: He's through seventeen, tied for fourth. We got a few
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: guys including Alex Smalley and Andrew Putnam.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: They're at eight under. Tony fenat that's where we get to.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: Tony fen now he's at six under, but he just
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: started his is that right?
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  Speaker 10: He?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: I think looks like just started his second round, so
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: he's he's six under, just getting started. Good news for Tony.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: Everybody is under today. Everybody's scoring low today. Robert McIntyre,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: who's the leader right now, was eight under today.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: That's how he got to fourteen.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: So maybe that can the course can continue to play
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: that way for Tony and he can make up some
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: ground and get back in the lead.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: There he's the other guy.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Some of the other guys tied for seventh are some
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: bigger names like Davis Thompson and JJ Spawn Tied with
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: Tony verse seventh at six under.
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  Speaker 3: That rounds out your top ten.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: Happy Gilmore's caddie Wills Alatrris, who was near the top
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: of the leaderboard at the end of the day yesterday too,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: he's he's in a group tied for eleventh. By the way,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: I just like to call him Happy Gilmore's caddy. That's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: the only reason I brought him up. Okay, there's a great,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: great little easter egg, great little connection that they did
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: between the first and second. Happy Gilmour's with Wills Ala
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  Speaker 5: Taurus there. So that's your PGA Tour leaderboard update. Brought
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  Speaker 2: Their first regional today right as we sign off on
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  Speaker 4: It'll start at two.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: If they advance second Regionals on Sunday, that'll be at
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: six pm on ESPN Plus. That's for a spot at Nationals.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: No big deal, it's only been forty nine straight years.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: We're gonna try to get avery Nef on the show
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: next week. Even if the team doesn't advance to Nationals,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: she will be competing. We can assume she'll be competing
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: in the individual all around another events.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: She's had an incredible year. We've been told that we're
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: gonna get her on at some point next week. We
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: just haven't still got to still gotta get the day
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: and time there. But excited to talk to avery Nef
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: next week. Yeah, I would think that she'll be competing individually.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: This Red Rocks team, it's not It doesn't feel as
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: guaranteed as it has most years.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: That's fifty years about.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Like you said that they'll move on to Nationals, but
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: they feel you should still feel really good about it.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: They got a good draw Samymore, I think told us
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: that last week that got to feel good about the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: draw here and they got to be in the top
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: two in each of the regionals to advance to nationals.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: So don't have to be the best, just just be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: in the top two.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: There, James, Have you ever done the thing like I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: think most people when you I don't know, you're watching
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: HGTV and you're seeing like my lottery dream home or something.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Have you ever done the thing where you're just like,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: how much money would I need to have like my
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Pie in the sky dream lifestyle? How much money would
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: it actually take me? Have you ever like gone through
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: that exercise.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: I haven't gone through like looked at the numbers, but yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: I definitely have those like what would the dream life
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: styll be? And that's probably gonna take way more money
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: than I can.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: So I've done it, and like in I think my
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: greediest self would still have everything he actually wants it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: and was able to use with regularity for about forty
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: ish million dollars. Okay, I would want a house here
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City. I would want a house in Hawaii.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be something absurd, right, but that's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the north shore of a Wahoo's like heaven.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: I love that place.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I would want a little spot like a game lodge
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: somewhere in Botswana, Zambia, whatever, that's not that expensive. And
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: then I would want access to private travel, which if
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: you're doing it all the time, you probably need more
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: than forty million dollars for it. But if you're going
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: on like two or three vacations a year, you're flying
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: from your Salt Lake house to your Hawaii house, your
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Hawaii house back to Salt Lake, then you're going from
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: there to I don't know, Africa, or you maybe you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: want to go see the World Cup wherever it's at
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: or something like that. I mean, I'd want season tickets,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: front road tickets, somewhere you could afford all these things
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: for I think about forty million bucks. And the reason
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I'm asking it this way in the Daily Dump is
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: because it's being reported right now that Floyd Mayweather, who
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: retired from boxing officially at fifty to oh, who has
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: since competed in several exhibition matches which don't count for
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: or against his record. He signed he's like fifty years old,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: but he signed to fight Many Pakiao in a rematch
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: their first bout. By the way, he made about two
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars for the first fight with
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: many Pakiow. Floyd Mayweather is one of the biggest paradoxes
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: in all of sports, because, especially if you paid attention
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: to the little feud he had with fifty cent the Rapper,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: it was exposed that adult Floyd.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Mayweather could not really read.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: That's right, Like he was illiterate, right, and so we
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: think of illiteracy and we say that's a dumb person.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather was not focused on school ever in his life, right,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: and he didn't come from a place where he was
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: being taught to. I don't know if he has a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: learning disability on top of these things, right, the priority
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: for him and his like his father, Floyd Mayweather Senior,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: who trained him, and like it was boxing. It was boxing, boxing, boxing, boxing,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: and he was I mean special at it. Now, there's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: plenty of things you can look up to show you
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: that he's not exactly a great person. Floyd Mayweather, though,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: is a paradox in that he is traditionally not what
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: you would consider a genius. And this story's gonna drive
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: that home. But he also did one of the most
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: important and impressive things in boxing back in like I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: think it was two thousand and six, he bought himself
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: out of his promoter contract with I think it was
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: top rank. He paid seven hundred thousand dollars to buy
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: himself out of a contract. And this is long before
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: he was a mega mega megastar. It's seven hundred dollars,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand dollars, so he could be his own promoter,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and that he created the money team, the money team
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Money Mayweather Promotions. And since then he has made an
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: estimated take a guess.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: We let's see te fight on.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Fight estimated against Manny Pac yow. He's fought Canelo, He's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: fought Oscar de la Joia, he did the Connor McGregor fight, which,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: of course, all these things he promoted himself.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: Hundreds of millions of dollars each right, especially the McGregor fight.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: It's over a billion.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: He has made an estimated one point one billion dollars
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: in his boxing career.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, minus seven hundred thousand important to pretty strong return
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: on that initial investment.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: Okay. So a guy who is like.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Very problematic in a lot of ways, created his own
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: empire of boxing and has made a reported one point
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: one billion dollars over one billion dollars for the uninitiated up,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: that is one thousand million dollars, okay.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Billion with the bee and earn the nickname money. Yeah.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And actually again I did this because I said
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: one point one, and when you reduce a billion to
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: a point one, you're just like, go, it's one point one. Nope,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: that point one is one hundred million dollars. Yeah, okay,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: so over a billion dollars. Yet he has received his
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: pay for this Netflix spout in advance, and there's reports
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: out there that it's because he needs the money to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: pay some taxes, to pay some bad debts. Having a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: billion dollars of income over the course of your career
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: and then needing a cash advance on your next professional
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: endeavor because you're strapped is insane.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: It's hard to believe. I mean, we've seen it happen before.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: There was.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Like Mike Tyson is the cautionary tale that has often
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: brought up. Andre Risen was the cautionary tale that the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: NFL used for their rookie symposiums, where you know, these
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: guys they get these huge contracts, they get these huge earnings.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Mike Tyson in the eighties and early nineties burned through
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: two hundred million plus dollars.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: That's really really hard to do.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, it appears, has burned through more than one
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: billion dollars.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: I mean inflation. With inflation, that's basically the same as no,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: that's insane.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: And look he's got he has like a five hundred
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: million dollar house. He's got like, well, let's I guess
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: it's not a five hundred million dollar house. He's got
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: a five hundred million dollar portfolio of houses. He's got
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: several hundred million dollars worth of cars, He's got watches
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: that cost over a million dollars.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: He is he has been.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Buying and spending and wasting at a level that is
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: just impossible to understand for years. But it would appear
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: that he is out of money and needs out of
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: liquid cash at least that needs that in advance. He's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: gonna box Manny Pachio again. Here's where the story gets
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: more interesting. He's already received from Netflix. Apparently the cash
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: advance is pay up front, but the match itself, the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: actual executed event, is in jeopardy because Floyd Mayweather is
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: officially retired from professional boxing and has remained so after
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: doing several exhibitions. He went over and fought a kickboxer
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: in Japan, made a bunch of money doing that. He
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: boxed Logan Paul in an exhibition match. He wants this
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Manny Pakiao boxing match to be another exhibition, and Manny
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: and his team are insisting that no, this is a
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: professionally sanctioned bout because Manny wants revenge.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Manny, he wants it to count. He wants it to count.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: He thinks he can beat Floyd Mayweather now because Floyd,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, this was like twenty twelve or whenever they
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: fought a long time.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Ago, neither of them won.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: Like, Manny's retired too, right, Manny has still been competing
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: or is he He's not retired, Okay, I just kind
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: of assumed he was, because it's been a long time
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: since we've heard of him.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: And Manny is not, Like many's not fighting the big
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: dogs of the world right now for obviously reason.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: These guys are pushing fifty.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's still impressive that he's that. He's technically so professor.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: So Floyd.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Floyd is like, hey, I want I want this to
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: be an exhibition, because an exhibition he risks only his
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: physical well being. He doesn't risk his record, his legacy ever, right,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: and man, he's just like no dog. This is a
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: professional boxing about I want to get that back.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you your first loss. He's still undefeated
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: as a professional.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: Yes he is.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you your first official loss, my guy,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: when it's all said and done. If we get more
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: details on this, and Floyd Mayweather has burned a billion dollars,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: he is going to be the poster boy for financial
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: irresponsibility in sports and entertainment, in celebrity, in everything in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: the history of rich people.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know that.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that we've seen someone who's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: billion dollars was like legitimately earned. And I guess he'd
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: have to have a debate about how legitimate some of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: those professional boxing worlds are. But we like, it's not
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: like he Ponzi schemed his way into this. Yeah, we
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: watched him. He promoted himself, he sold these fights, he
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: created these spectacles to seventy two hundred and seventy million dollars,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: by the way, is how much he was alleged to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: have brought home after the Conna McGregor fight, which is
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: his highest earning fight to date, and that was far
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: from being his most dangerous outing. Connor McGregor was never
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: going to beat him. Floyd went the first three rounds
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: without really throwing punches.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: Was that a professional one or is that an exhibition?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was a professional fight with no no belt
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: on the line, nothing like right, So I mean Floyd
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: is he's like I said, he's this sort of dichotomy
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: of genius and stupidity where it's like, you have elevated
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: yourself to supreme status, to a level of celebrity, that
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: and wealth that very few can ever attain, and couldn't
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: get out of your way with domestic violence, couldn't get
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: out of your way with some like gambling problems, couldn't
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: get out of your way with all this stuff. And now,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: instead of being celebrated as one of the greatest boxers
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: of all time, your legacy could be you're the biggest
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: moron when it comes to spending money and the history
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: of planet Earth.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, broke to ESPN thirty for thirty, he would be
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: the he would be the face of that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Remember that thirty for thirty.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Bernie Kozar was one of the big stories they did
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: in that one, but they he would be the face
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: of the sequel of that documentary.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I mean he's got multiple private jets, multiple properties, dozens
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: and dozens of cars, incredible luxury watches, any vacation, he
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: carries cash around with him and he like he famously
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: spent time at one point in his life he would
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: go into gentlemen's club and he would literally just like
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: throw cash, like make it rain, make it rain, but
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: like but like in a way that everyone.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: Else is aspiring to.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: He would actually just like, oh, now it's just pouring
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: down on the club. I mean, the guy was a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: movie character. Yeah, and now I guess she needs more money.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Women's Final four Action Tonight, All four one, seeds, five pm.
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  Speaker 2: Yukon South Carolina. Goodness, you talk about fights. That is
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: a heavyweight fight.
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  Speaker 5: Yukon with like a fifty something game win streak on
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: the line. They're obviously defending national champions as well. South
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: Carolina's only got three losses and we mentioned the other
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: day OC in the Daily Dump they have matched Yukon
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: with their recent run of six straight final fours.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a heavyweight bout.
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  Speaker 2: That's at five h seven thirty pm Gihonna Neepkins and
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  Speaker 2: UCLA taking on Texas. Both of those games will be
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  Speaker 2: on ESPN. Go down to Big Willies at seventeen seventeen
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  Speaker 2: South Maine to watch them. Of course, the men's final
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  Speaker 2: four games tomorrow four pm Yukon Illinois six forty five Arizona, Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Those games are on TBS. And if you aren't quite
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  Speaker 2: sure where you stand in our million dollar Bracket Challenge standings,
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  Speaker 2: and the Utah RV Super Show. Who can you up
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: with our million dollar Bracket Challenge?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I know anyone who follows women's basketball, Giona
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: Neapkins is not the star of UCLA, but that's we're
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: localizing it here. Really cool that, of course, we would
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: have preferred she stayed with Gavin Peterson's team here in
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: Utah women's basketball, but really cool to have a former
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: Utah women's basketball star in the final four for UCLA.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: So that one's at seven thirty, that one, in particular,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: I've got some interest in and it should be a
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: UCLA only one loss in the year. They might They've
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: been looked at as the team probably with the best
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: chance to beat Yukon. We'll see if they can get
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: past Texas first.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfeld welcome their first child to
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: the world. Was just a big thing in the James
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Peterson household. So excited for Joshi. Where's Joshi?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: We are?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: We are jokingly because I don't think that they've released
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: that they've made it public what they've named their daughter yet,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: but we're jokingly calling her Haley Joshua Allen Steinfield Junior.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought they announced her. Did they announce the name?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like something a little bit. If I'm
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  Speaker 2: not mistaken, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not up on the on all the celebrity news.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't see that initially, so I.
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  Speaker 4: I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It might be one of those things where I saw
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  Speaker 2: like the little Byeline, the little and it was it
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: was the author that ever wrote it, right, That's like
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: that person's name is like like Journey high Racks or
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: whatever the name that they're.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Day Alan Steinfeld.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh so, so excited for them, big deal,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: big deal in the Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: I'm googling it. I'm googling the name of their daughter.
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  Speaker 2: But our internet today is taking about it's like old
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: school dial up, So twelve minutes from now be able
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: to tell you.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: In fact, if you if you turn your radio up,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: you can hear the old school dial up sounds, maybe
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: strange noise that was. So are you are you wanting
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: to pose? Which is which is a better couple celebrity
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: NFL couple?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Now I want to frame this the right way because
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Hailey Steinfeld, like, they're both very famous, right,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is one of the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: like three or foremost famous people on planet Earth. So
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  Speaker 2: her fame I think eclipses the other couple by themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, combined, she's more famous.
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  Speaker 2: Like Travis Kelcey is famous for obviously, you know, being
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: great at his job, but also now he's way, way,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: way more famous because he's he's mister Taylor Swift.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's as the Swifties in my life say, he's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: Taylor Swift's boyfriends.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Travis Kelcey, if we split the fame between
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: the two couples. Okay, Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey is like
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: ninety five percent to five percent, uh huh in Taylor's favor.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Where is the Josh Allen Hailey Steinfeld fame split?
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  Speaker 5: This is tough for US sports people because we all
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: think that especial the star quarterback is way more famous
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: than the well known actress, but not Taylor Swift Academy
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: Awood nominated actress.
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  Speaker 4: I believe, Yeah, she's her.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Her profile has definitely risen since Sinners. Yes, and she's
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: a great singer as well, But she's not Taylor Swift
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: fame in her field, right. No, So it's so we
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: it's easier for us to go, well, Josh Allen is
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: Taylor Swift fame in his field, right, Hayy Steinfeld is
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: not Travis Kelcey fame in her field. So so Josh
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: Allen's probably more famous. But I but I I gotta
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: think that I I believe there are more non sports
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: fans in the world than there are sports fans, So
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: I think that the entertainment celebrity eclipses sports celebrity.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: Interesting, that's my theory. Okay, I don't know what the
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: split would be.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's maybe it's sixty five, thirty five, sixty forty.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Favorite favoring Hale Hailey.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I applaud both gentlemen for being able to uh put
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the ego aside and just be like, Yeah, my lady's
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  Speaker 2: a lot more famous to me, a lot cooler than me.
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  Speaker 5: You think that too, then you think Haley's probably Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We got to take a break because Colton Swan, Utah
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  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator joins us next on The Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 1: Peas Sean O'Connell's show, you were home of the best
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  Speaker 1: the Murder Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven and ninety one, half.
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  Speaker 2: Am, Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in
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  Speaker 2: Colton Swan, defensive coordinator at the University of Utah, coach.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 6: How are you great man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm really excited to get a chance to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you on air.
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  Speaker 3: You're you're the d C.
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  Speaker 2: Now, what's been the biggest change in your elevated status
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  Speaker 2: from you know, last year?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, when you're a position coach and you're
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  Speaker 6: just looking at linebackers. You're having kind of a trained
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  Speaker 6: dive for that, you know, and you're not you're not
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  Speaker 6: flying at three, you know, thirty thousand feet looking at everything.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's kind of the biggest change. And to
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  Speaker 6: answer your question, just you know, being able to look
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  Speaker 6: from from corner to corner, to interior to the back end,
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  Speaker 6: you know, everything's kind of just a little bit different.
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  Speaker 6: You have to rewind that film a lot more. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you're just getting getting that perspective from the coordinator position
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  Speaker 6: is just just a lot different when you're watching film
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  Speaker 6: and you're and you're trying to correct guys and making
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  Speaker 6: sure that you know technique is right from you know,
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  Speaker 6: all eleven guys on the field, and so there's there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot quite a bit different for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Look, you've you've kind of like you've coached a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of different things on a defense. Is there one particular
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  Speaker 2: position group that you find yourself and having to rewind
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  Speaker 2: a lot more? Like maybe it's it's the spot where
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  Speaker 2: you have the least amount of experience or the least
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  Speaker 2: amount of acumen where you're just like, man, I really
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  Speaker 2: need to make sure I dial myself in on these d.
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  Speaker 3: Ends or these d linemen or maybe the corners.
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  Speaker 2: Is there one particular position where you're like, I can
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  Speaker 2: get myself better here.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, being a linebacker coach for a long
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  Speaker 6: period of time, the box play you fully kind of
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  Speaker 6: understand it. I mean, you know how leverage and you
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  Speaker 6: know how fits should be, and where people should be
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  Speaker 6: and what their eye progression should be, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: back end and for coming from the corners that you
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  Speaker 6: know is a position or positions that you kind of
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  Speaker 6: rewind it and you have to kind of talk through
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  Speaker 6: it with your position coaches and make sure that you
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  Speaker 6: know guys are doing kind of how you envision it,
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  Speaker 6: and and also see what they're teaching as a position
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  Speaker 6: coach and what the kids should be seeing as well.
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  Speaker 6: I would say that's probably the you know, majority of
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  Speaker 6: the time where you're spent learning and developing and from
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: a coordinator standpoint, where you're where you're really looking at.
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  Speaker 6: You know, just with my history, the box play stuff
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  Speaker 6: is rather easy and the trained eye can come too
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  Speaker 6: quick just going to the back end and the corners
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  Speaker 6: and stuff like that. Where we're having good communication conversation
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  Speaker 6: as far as coaches go and just making sure everybody's
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  Speaker 6: on the same page.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, take take me back to when this process was
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  Speaker 2: kind of playing itself out, and you know, Morgan is
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: elevated to head coach and he's got decisions to make
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: about about you know, who his assistants are going to be,
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  Speaker 2: whose coordinators are going to be. And you're not the
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  Speaker 2: only guy on that staff qualified, uh, to to elevate
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  Speaker 2: to this position. You know, You've got a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: long tenured and really intelligent coaches that now are your
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: assistants on the defensive side of things. What was the conversation, like,
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  Speaker 2: what was the I mean, was it a formal interview?
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  Speaker 2: Was it like you would Morgan had already planned this
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  Speaker 2: years ago? How did it come to be that Colton
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  Speaker 2: Swan would be defensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 6: Well, first off, want to say that the guys that
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  Speaker 6: I do have on the defensive staff, like you said,
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  Speaker 6: are extremely intelligent, very good coaches, and have you know,
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  Speaker 6: zero egos, are amazing to work with. You know, all
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  Speaker 6: five of us get along extremely well. I think you know,
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  Speaker 6: we all have the same path that we're trying to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: get to go on and so everybody's working really well together.
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  Speaker 6: I think just you know, when I got here for
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: now eight years ago, I think coach Scally saw, you know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: my mental capacity, he saw my work ethic. I think
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: he was, you know, obviously really really pleased with where
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: I was going and what I wanted to do professionally.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: And you know, the conversation from from day one when
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: getting here is like, hey, see yourself as being a coordinator,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of look at it, you know, from
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: that perspective, don't just be a guy that you know
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: is thinking I'm going to be a position coach forever.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: And so you know, I've had that always in my mind,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 6: and you know, in growth and profession and also just
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: doing a good job and making sure that the things
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: that I put my hands on is the best it
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  Speaker 6: can be. And I think, you know, Coach Kelly's always
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: recognized that, and so you know, when it came time
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: to be I think it was an easy decision for him.
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  Speaker 2: Derek Odum has been at the University of Utah before.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: It's easy to reference back to some of the great
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: players that he coached and to ask those players what
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: their opinion of coach otom is, and he gets bringing
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: endorsements and I think for a lot of Utah football fans,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: at least for now, that's more than enough. We know
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: in Okay, breakforfield less, we don't have those same like
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: reference points and those same trusted voices telling us that, no,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: this guy is exactly what you need. So I want
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  Speaker 2: to give you the opportunity to tell this and base
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: why in Okay, Breactorfield is the right guy to coach
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: these defense events.
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  Speaker 6: Perfect good. This is a good opportunity for you know,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: me to brag on him, because he is definitely worth that.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: And you know, I've worked with in KB four over
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  Speaker 6: at Weaver State when we were kind of all cutting
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: our teeth and he was a really good coach then,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: you know, and he's gone on in his career and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: gone to some really good places and coach some really
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: good players, some of the best in the NFL. He's coached,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: and and he is a wealth of D line knowledge.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: It's so awesome to sit there and communicate with him
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: in meetings and watching film and just his ability to
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: see things from a technique standpoint and then also you know,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: from a schematic standpoint and different twists and ideas and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: things that he has done in his past that he
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: shares with me, and hey, you got to think about
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: doing this. What do you think about this? You know?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: And this God he is so on top of the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: line play and run fits and man, he is an
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: absolute blessing to have.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have to change the way you talk to
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: communicate with whatever players now that you're you're a little
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: further up the ladder. I think one of the things
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: that was interesting for me going to different places and
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: seeing the way that different coaches handle things is like,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: sometimes the head coach is a little bit aloof from
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: a player relations standpoint, That's not gonna work for Morgan Scaley,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: that's not his style.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: But you know there is a separation the higher you climb.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Your position coach is like, that's your advocate as a player,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: that's your guy, that's your dude.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Do you have to be a little bit different as
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: a decordinator?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know as a position coach, you or at
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: least I was. You know, I'm responsible for my eleven
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: guys or whatever they may be, my you know, my
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: two or three guys that are on the field, and
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: you know you're holding those guys accountable. You're building that
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: relationship ship, you've got a great relationship with them. You know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: they trust you as a position coach. You know, you
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: you graduate and you go into the defensive coordinator position,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: and now you know, you're talking to the corners different
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: than you did before as a linebacker coach. You know,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: you see a corner in the hall and you're dapping
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: them up and pe and having fun with them and
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: stuff like that. And now they're hearing my voice a
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: lot more in meetings and you know, you know, calling
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: calling behaviors out, saying hey, this is what we're doing
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: here it's not good enough, or this is what we're doing,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: this is awesome, this is what we're looking for. So
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: they hear me in a different voice and and which
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: is nice. You know, it's not just the old hey,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: linebacker coach walking through the hall, you know, trying to
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: pee with me and dap me up. So I think,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: I think definitely you're You're absolutely right. Your persona and
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: everything changes according to the different positions. They oh, man,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: coach wank and he could really good after or man,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: he's awesome, you know when when things are going good,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: he's a he's a cheerleader of us, And they see
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: a different light coming from me as now a coordinator
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: than they did before, just as the position coach.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: How natural has that process been for you personally, because
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: I know you from my own days as a nobody
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: at Weaver State as like kind of that that player's coach,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: somebody that's just like, yeah, I know, coach has he
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: sees my effort, He's got my back and if things,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: you know, things come down to it, I think that
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: I can trust him with whatever. Has it been natural
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: for you to kind of like elevate yourself away from
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: the away It might not be the right way to
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: say it, but you know what I.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: Mean, Yeah, you know it's been pretty natural for me.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: I think that matches with my personality. You know, I
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: get a lot of one on one conversations with kids
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: that are outside the linebacker room where we I sit
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: there and can talk to him more in a controlled setting,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: and I think they really can see that, Hey, coach Swan,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: you know, really cares for how I'm playing in and
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: cares for me as a human, and you know, he
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: wants the best for me. You know, you might get
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: the screaming and yelling on the field and we got
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: to do better and all that stuff, but you know,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: behind the lines or out off the field. You know,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: they can I think they really can see that, Hey,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: he's wanting me to do these things because it's only
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: going to help my play and they help me in
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: life and those types of things. So I kind of
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: lean on that a little bit. Like I said, it
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: matches my personality is to kind of have one on
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: one conversations control steading things like that. You know, we
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: do live in a world of you know, wins and
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: losses and holding guys accountable and stuff like that, and
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: that's you know, and our guys understand it, and that's
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: how they're going to be coach. They're going to be
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: coach hard and and we're going to hold our guys
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: accountable from top to bottom, offense, defense, special teams, and
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  Speaker 6: so you know, when you're messing up, you're going to
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  Speaker 6: know it and you're going to be corrected. And at
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: the same time, you're gonna have coaches put their arm
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: around you and love you and and help you understand. Hey,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I'm not just being coach hard because coach
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: doesn't like me. I'm being coach hard because he wants
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: the best out of me. And at the same time,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: he's going to put his arm around me and tell
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: me how much he loves me and appreciates me. And
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: that's kind of our style and philosophy. And that's one
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  Speaker 6: thing I've really stressed to you know, my assistant coaches is, Hey,
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  Speaker 6: these kids got to feel our love as much, it's
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: not more than they feel our coaching and corrections and accountability.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Colton Swan, Utah defensive coordinator, is our guest here on
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell show for a few more minutes. This
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  Speaker 2: is the first year where there's no transfer portal window
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: opening after spring football. How has that changed practices, film,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: coach communication, whatever, How has it changed springbald knowing that
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: there's no transfer portal window coming.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely a little bit different, you know, similar
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: to last year and the fact that most of the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: transfer portal stuff took place in the first portion of
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: it and we didn't have a ton last year in
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: the second there was. But now with this here only
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: being one, you know, you got who you got, and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: you as a coach got to do a great job
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: in development. You got to get them right and spend
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: the time with them and get them there because who
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: you recruited is who you're going to be playing with
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: next year, and you got to you got to divulge
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  Speaker 6: the time to get them where they need to be
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: in order to be successful. And so that's kind of
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: the biggest thing is you got who you got and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: and you know, now the coach, he's got to take
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: place and kick in and we got to get these
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  Speaker 6: guys ready to.
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  Speaker 4: Go, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So with that in mind, just between you and me, coach,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: how do you feel? How do you feel about you
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  Speaker 2: and me and everybody else?
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  Speaker 4: How do you feel about the guys that you've got?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we went out there, we got to see
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of practice and you know, you got
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: big bodies flying around, You got some speed, You got
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: some d linemen new to the program or are young
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: guys on the come up that are then some battles
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: up front. But yeah, you look at this through a
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: lot different lens than the rest of us do. How
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: do you feel about these these these players that you
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: have on your defense right now?
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  Speaker 6: I feel really good. They're one. The thing that gives
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: me confidence is we've got a really high care factor
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  Speaker 6: from top to bottom in every position. Guys are really
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: putting forth a lot of time in studying the game
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: of football. Their their care factor is through the roof.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: They're spending an enormous amount of time on their own
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: and not only that, are they're they're spending an enormous
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: amount of time with each other and bringing each other
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: along older guys. And the leadership that's taking place on
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: the defense is phenomenal right now. The way that you
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: see some some of the veterans that are on the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: defensive side bringing along younger kids is phenomenal. You know,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: you're you're seeing kids in the building and in the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: facility twenty four to seven. I mean, they're just here
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: all the time in studying and so there's a lot
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: of things traits that these kids are doing right now.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: As a coordinator, you love to see they're they're on
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: the field, they're flying to the football, they're communicated, the
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: energy is high, they're extremely positive with one another. So
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: a lot of good stuff. You know, it's the end
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: product is not here yet. We're still working on techniques
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: and schemes and just different things that are new to
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: a lot of our defensive players. And they're getting better
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: every day. And that's one thing that they are doing
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: and so a lot of promises coming from from the
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: defensive side.
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  Speaker 2: You lose to the upcoming NFL drafts, some pretty established
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: not only players, but leaders, vocal individuals from last year's team.
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  Speaker 2: So who has stepped in in these early parts of
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: spring to be more vocal, to be more of that
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  Speaker 2: captain style type player.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we voted, you know, on a leadership council, and
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  Speaker 6: and I thought that, you know, the guys that were
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: voted for on the defensive side, the kids knock it
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: out of the park. Those those individuals are stepped stepping up.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: And really what you want to see is when times
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: get tough, you know, the offense is kicking your butt
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: or whatever, and springball and it's a long practice, it's tiresome, whatever,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: it's really what you want to see is when times
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  Speaker 6: are getting tons of those individuals, those leaders not only
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: that we're voted for, but are assumed leaders that they're
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: stepping up and doing the things necessary to bring our
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: guys along from you know, a motivational standpoint and keeping
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: guys in tuned and working forward, you know. So you know,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: just the individually, I know that we're kind of littered
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: on the defensive side. I think there was six or
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: seven guys, if I'm not mistaken, that we're voted for
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: by you know, everybody on the team, and it's it's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: definitely known on the defensive side. And we have great
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  Speaker 6: leadership now from those guys that are voted, but from everybody.
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  Speaker 6: You know, that's one thing I told them. Just because
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: you weren't voted as a leader, it doesn't make you know,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that you're not a leader. There's a
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: lot of you here that you don't have a lot
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: of reps or you know that are older and know
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: what Utah football is all about. And we got to
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: hold each other accountable. And if we're not speak up,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: you see it, you know, speak it. So that's nice
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: to see. From from what we're doing defensively.
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  Speaker 2: What about on the offensive side of the ball, I mean,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: these are the guys that right now you only get
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: to play against yourselves. So these are the guys you're
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: trying to stop and the guys that are sometimes making
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: your defenders look not so great. Who who's impressed to
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: you on the offensive side. And you've you've thought about
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: it and been like, man, when we get to the fall,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: that guy is going to give other defensive coordinators fits.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you for sure definitely want to see give
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: and take. That is a good sign of spring ball,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: you know, and I think that's what you're getting right
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: now from from the offense and the defense. You're seeing
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: a lot of give and take. Mcgibbons doing a very
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: good job with them on the offensive side and creating
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: a lot of problems for us on the defensive. Society's
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: very creative and how he's handling things. But I think
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: the wide receiver position with a number of guys has
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: really stepped up. They're doing an amazing job they running
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: back position. Obviously they've got way Shawn coming back with
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: that experience, but even just the guys behind them are
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 6: really doing a great job. You know. The one group
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 6: that is doing really really good where pretty much the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: whole group was gutted is the offensive line. Coach Gross
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: is doing a fantastic job with these guys, and a
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: lot of those guys that were maybe back ups last
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: year are really stepping up. And one thing that's probably
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: helped them the most is they're extremely hungry. I mean,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: those types of guys, they're the ones that are going
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: to get in there and grind on film and work
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: hard and be in the weight room and just you know,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: eat and breathe football twenty four to seven. And you
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: can see that girl from that line position, so really
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: nice to see obviously you know, returning quarterback and uh
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: with the and bird also both so that position is freaking,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: you know, really good. So a lot of a lot
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: of tough things, a lot of weapons that we've got
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: to stomp on the defensive side coming from the offense.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: So well, you you know Kevin McGibbon.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: You've worked with Kevin McGibbon before up at Weaver State,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: and you know now you're competing against one another. But
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: it's probably one of those weird things where you want him.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: You want that give and take. You don't want it
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: to be easy for your defense to dominate. You want
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: to You want it because he's going to be helping
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: you come the fall. Uh Again, He's somebody that the
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Utah fan base doesn't know as well, isn't like as
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: proven to the Utah fan base as some of the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: guys that they're used to.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: I like him.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: I know that after Weaver State and beyond, he's had
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: success at a lot of different stops.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: What is the best thing about him as.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 6: A coordinator, well, the amazing man for sure, and you know,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: and introducing him to I just said the San Days,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: great personality. It's been a lot around a lot of
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: offensive coordinators, and honestly, he is one of the top
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 6: ones that is all about the team. He's team team, team, team,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: which is very very good to see and good to
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: be around. He's all about helping the defense as much
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: as he helps the offense. So that's a breath of
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: fresh air when it comes to you know, as a
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: defensive coordinator working with an offense coordinator. So from a
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: colleague standpoint, it's awesome. He provides a ton of complications
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: for us defensively. He's got a very very creative mind.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: He's got a lot of tools to work with, and
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: he's doing a really fantastic john of trying to manipulate
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: and use all these tools in different ways. It creates
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of problems for us defensively. One thing I
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 6: know about in the given he has a really good
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 6: understanding of defense and he knows what causes us problems.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: And you know, honestly, having a coach scout, you know,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: take over the head coaching position, coach scally knows what
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: causes us problems and for to have a head coach
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: that you know can sit there and say, hey, what
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 6: do you think about this? Try this? This is you know,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: something that is difficult to do it it really like
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 6: you said, it's it's a give and take. And us
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 6: defensively have got our you know, do a good job
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: of making adjustments and you know, combating things that we
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: know that are difficult.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: Golden swan for just another minute or two here on
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell show, Utah defensive coordinator, what is your
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: stance on two way players? We've seen the last couple
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: of seasons. Hey, great athlete, let's get them on both
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: sides of the ball. There is a trade off that
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: comes with that. What's your stance on using maybe your
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: defensive guys on offense advice versa?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I love it. I think it's awesome. Or like
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: I said, this is all about wins and losses. And
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 6: if we got kids on the defensive side, they can
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 6: help us on the offensive side. Why not? You know
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 6: what I mean? You got to be smart with it
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 6: and how you do it, how you handle it. But
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 6: I'm a big proponent to that, and I you know,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: I love it because I surely do believe that we
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 6: do have some defensive guys that can help over there.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: I will see, the offensive side is loaded with a
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: lot of talent, you know, so you know, if they're
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: lacking in talent, then yeah, you know, defensive guy's got
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: to step up. But I think if there's somewhere where
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: we can help, I'm all for it.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: How much of a Colton Swan distinct like flavor will
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: be in this defense because this the Utah defense with
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: the continuity of this football program. It's a Fred Whittingham defense.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: It's a Kyle Whittingham defense that was flavored a little
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: bit by Kolonie Stake and then by Morgan Scally and
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: now Colton Swan. Like, what does what does your recipe?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: What does your seasoning add to this recipe?
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 6: Right? Well, we definitely, you know, I have our additions
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 6: and things that we like to do. Uh, from a
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: schematic standpoint, some things that you know, we we've changed
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: up a little bit. But but like I said, there
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: is definitely a foundation to how how the defense has
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 6: been played here at University of Utah, not only from
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: a schematic standpoint, but just a physical standpoint, you know,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: I ask our defensive players, hey, what's our identity? You
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: want them to be able to tell you exactly what
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: it should look like when they turn the film on
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 6: of how we should be playing defense. We play hard,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: we play smart, and we do ship.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: I love that. That's all right. We could get away
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: with that one. We can get away with that one,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: no problem.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 6: But just just our guys being able to to get on,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: you know, get on a film and be like, okay,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: if that's who we are, Okay, look at us run
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: into the football, you know, look at us on the
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 6: line of screen and being physical with you know, good
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: vertical leverage, you know, and good inside hands and you know.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 6: So that's one thing that we're really stressing about. And
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 6: you do use spring for a lot of that trying
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: to teach technique, but we're really trying to hammer home Hey,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: here on this defense. When we turn that film on,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: we should see eleven guys flying to that football. Okay,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: we play hard, and the backside corners, the backside safety
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: is the backside d and you are running to that football.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: We do it smart, right, We know all of our
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: different adjustments within each coverage and alignments and different things
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: like that, we're situationally intelligent when it comes to two minute,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: four minute, backed up, controlled down, third down to the like.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 6: We constantly are teaching these situations. So we play smart, right,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: and we do. We play hard and we play smart,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: and we do it with great technique, and that's our
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: whole identity and really what we're trying to hammer home
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: to our defenses this spring.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try to make sure I asked this
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: in the right way, But where do you find the
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: threshold between we got to run our structure, we got
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: to run our defense. And this guy's really good and
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: it's nice to have him on the field, so it
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: can be a little bit positionless in this defense. And
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of like your linebacker room this year. I
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: like those guys. I know that sometimes offensive personnel this
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: dictates that you got to be a nickel and that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: usually takes a linebacker off the field, but maybe not
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: if you've got a linebacker that can bend an edge
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So where do you find that balance with
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: letting a guy play in the system and where he's
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: supposed to be, but also saying, man, we got to
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: get you on the field because you're a playmaker, right.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: I think that's one thing that us as coaches, you know,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: what we're paid money to do is find me. I
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: think what you're getting at is the eleven best on
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: the field. You know, is it an extra backer? Is
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 6: an extra safety? Is you know an extra dB? Where?
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: Where is? Where is it? And you know according to
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: what you're seeing offensively and how you can make it fit. Uh.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 6: You know, it's a big chess match out there, and
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: you're just trying to get the eleven best that are
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 6: going to help you be the most successful. So you
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 6: definitely want to want to manipulate and scheme according to
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 6: you know, what you're seeing, but you also want your
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: eleven best on there. And I think you know that's
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 6: what that's what we get paid, you know, to do.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 6: And so we have a we have a lot of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 6: talented players and we've got to do a good job
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: of definitely getting them on the field.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: I think most Utah football fans know this, but if
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: you're listening and you're not aware, uh, this is the
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: voice Colton Swan of. He's like the manliest guy in Utah.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: When he's not coaching football, he's rodeo and he's on
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: a horseback.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: He's a real cowboy.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Has becoming the defensive coordinator reduced the time you have
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: to be a cowboy?
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, no doubt. You know that. I'm extremely
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: passionate about you know, a few things and football and
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: and you know, rodeo and cowboy and stuff like that
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 6: is another one. But yeah, football is definitely one where
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 6: you know, you've got to put it in the time
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 6: and uh, in order to be successful as a defensive
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: coordinator and and help your kids be successful as players,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 6: you you definitely got to put forth a time and
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: so you know, it's it's definitely a give and take.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 6: I will say that coach Scalley does an amazing job
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: with us as assistance of balancing you know, our life
• 1:47:36
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  Speaker 6: it's it's a it's a breath of fresh air. It's
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  Speaker 6: definitely have lives, We have kids, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's as cool as it gets.
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  Speaker 2: And that guy Colton Swan is going to be calling
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  Speaker 2: as well. Coach, very excited you've got this opportunity. I'm
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  Speaker 2: for your time today, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you Sean.
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  Speaker 4: Gov.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 4: How are you.
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  Speaker 10: I'm good man. It's been a long time since I've
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  Speaker 10: been on the SPN, so I'm a little bit of frenday.
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  Speaker 10: That's my grievance. I'm here, I'm here. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: We will and I think that's probably a valid grievance.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: It's been way too long, but we're happy to have
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  Speaker 2: you today. RSL Sporting Kansas City at America First Field
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  Speaker 2: down there in God's Country, Sandy, Utah, my hometown. That's
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  Speaker 2: two thirty this weekend. And then we've got you know,
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• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: in a second, but what should we expect from Rislvers
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  Speaker 2: to Sporting.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, you know, I think we've already decided it's going
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 10: to be a win. This RSL team has been really,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 10: really good and really fun to watch so far in
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 10: twenty and twenty six, I'll see. And you know, if
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 10: anybody would have told us at the end of last
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 10: season that they could switch the formation, the style, bringing
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 10: a whole bunch of new players and blood in some
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 10: young players and be doing as well as they are,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 10: granted just five games into the season, but it's it's
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 10: really really positive and you can feel the positivity. I'm
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 10: the club as well right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So for the novice soccer fan like myself, when
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  Speaker 2: we talk about changing formation and in a massive shift
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  Speaker 2: like that, give me the I don't know the other
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  Speaker 2: sport equivalent, or just give me a sense of how
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: difficult that is for a coaching staff, for a club,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: for the players to adapt to and to do so
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  Speaker 2: with such success like we're seeing with ourselves.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's massively difficult. And it's hard
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  Speaker 10: for me to talk about American sports because even though
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  Speaker 10: I do love watching them, I still don't know what's
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  Speaker 10: happening half the time. So for me to give a
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  Speaker 10: you know, a smart response with what it would be
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  Speaker 10: like in the NFL or anything like that would Yeah,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 10: I just sound like an idiot, which I do most
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 10: of the time anyway. But what we're talking about is
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 10: a different style of play. So at the end of
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 10: the season, end of twenty twenty five, Real Salt Lake
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 10: kind of link Throughout the season, it wasn't good. They
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 10: had set up for a system that was anything from
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  Speaker 10: four defenders, four midfielders that could go to three attackers
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 10: or you know, or just be two attackers. With this
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 10: shift here, they're giving themselves a little bit more balance
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  Speaker 10: and giving themselves an opportunity to use the players they
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 10: already had and the ones that they brought in to
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 10: have a better balance to play more to their strength.
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  Speaker 10: So they switched to a back three, a defensive back
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 10: three where the wide midfielders when they without the ball
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 10: will drop into and make a back five. So it
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 10: gives them a little bit more defensive salinity. In the attack.
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  Speaker 10: There's also one more that's available but slightly deeper, that
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  Speaker 10: is I able to get on the ball, run on
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  Speaker 10: the ball, running to channels in the wide areas and
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 10: just pick up pockets of space, which RS lost a
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 10: couple of years ago. They had a guy called Crooks,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 10: that was Matt Crooks that.
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  Speaker 6: Was over here.
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  Speaker 10: He came over from England and he would pick up
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  Speaker 10: these pockets of space, and when he left, they didn't
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  Speaker 10: replace him, so we didn't have that type to really
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 10: get on the ball and just float into areas that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 10: were really difficult for the opposing defenders to pick up.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 10: With the arrival of Morgan Guillavogi from France, he's a
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 10: similar type, probably quicker, but he's a similar type where
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 10: he picks up these pockets of space. Now you have
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 10: the likes of Diego Luna who's coming back from injury
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 10: to compliment him. But you have these white wing backs
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 10: in the name of Zaviagozo and Salabria who have joined
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 10: the defence, but they also get up and down those
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 10: flanks to join the attack. So it gives you an
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  Speaker 10: overload and it's been really really fun to watch. And
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  Speaker 10: I've got to say, oci, whenever you attested early on
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 10: in the season, not only with a new formation and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 10: a new bunch of teammates, but your young players that
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 10: have come through the academy or through the MLS draft
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 10: and getting sustained minutes and they haven't let me down.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 10: That just builds momentum and positivity around the place.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: You mentioned him, and he's obviously a big star for
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: this club.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: What is a healthy moon man like?
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: Where does he rank among elite MLS players right now?
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: As he scratched his ceiling at this point because he's
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: still young, what can Diego Luna be in an RSL shirt?
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  Speaker 10: In an RSL shirt, he can be a massive, massive
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 10: transfer fee for real Salt Lake. I think the sky's
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 10: the limit for him. He is nowhere near reached his
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  Speaker 10: full potential. Yet there's so much to this guy. Two footed,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 10: a quick pace over ten to fifteen yards, a great
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 10: drop of the shoulder, great vision, a good finisher that
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 10: I think will continue to improve. My only hope is
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  Speaker 10: that he's not on the outside looking in for when
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 10: the final World Cup squad is announced by Patchettino. I
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 10: think that he's got a bit of X factor about
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 10: him where he'll get stuck in, he'll tackle, he plays
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 10: like a veteran and he's got all those little intangibles
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 10: picking up pockets of space that give himself a bit
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  Speaker 10: of room to find a simple pass or play a
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  Speaker 10: defense splitting pass, or he's got the opportunity to put
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  Speaker 10: the ball into the back of the net, something that
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 10: the MLS has fueled far between that they have grown
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 10: in the league. There's a lot of really, really good
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 10: young players that have left at a young age and
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 10: develop their skills in your or South America, you know,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 10: in Mexico, and become really fantastic international players. But it's
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 10: a little bit more few and far between when a
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 10: guy is doing it and realizing his potential in Major
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 10: League Soccer. But yeah, I do think the sky is
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  Speaker 10: the limit for him, and I think there is an
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  Speaker 10: opportunity that if he goes to the World Cup and
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 10: has a good showing, even with limited minutes, he would
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 10: say that there's going to be a few clubs around
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 10: the world that will be snipping around for his services
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 10: come July.
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  Speaker 2: And look, when you say maybe the best thing he
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: can be for this club is that massive transfer fee,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: obviously you got to trust that the front office is
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: going to translate that into product on the field, because
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to lose him, it's like, do we
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: have that trust now? With the way that these changes
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: have been made and the results that we've seen in
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  Speaker 2: the early going so far as a result of those changes.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that there's an opportunity there. You've got
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 10: the young player that's kind of filled in while Diego
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 10: Luna was struggling with injury in Aidan Hezakhani, massive massive
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 10: fan of him and what he's been able to bring.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 10: Slightly different, but also got that air of confidence and
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 10: playing is like a veteran, really smart on the ball,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 10: really good drop on the shoulder to get away from
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 10: type pressure and obviously he's chipped in with a couple
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 10: of goals already this season. Obviously Zaviegozo and Zaviagoza. We
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 10: all know about him, a local boy, and I think
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 10: he's going to go from strength to strength. I think
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 10: he's going to be a huge talent and his steeling
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 10: is is not limited, very much like Diego Luna. Whilst
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: we have Luna, we've got to enjoy him whilst we've
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 10: got him. He's such a wonderful, wonderful player and he's
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 10: worth the entry fee alone just by himself because he is.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 10: He is that good for real Salt Lake and I
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 10: think that obviously being in European OC. I don't know
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 10: if you can tell by my accent. When you get
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 10: a homegrown player in your team, the fans take to
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 10: take to them a little bit more than than anybody else.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 10: And the reason is is that there's a dream there
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 10: for the local kids kicking the ball about in the
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 10: park right now, playing on teams with the wish of
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 10: being able to go pro and to see it come
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 10: through your academy. And there is a clear pathway for
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 10: these these young players. I think it's you know, you,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 10: just your heart goes with them a little bit more.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 10: And yes I might be looking through with rose tinted glasses,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 10: O see, but there's just a little bit more, just
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 10: a little bit more special when you see local voice
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 10: or academy products pump through and do good and go
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 10: from strength to strength.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: The gov spencer warners our guest here on the Sean
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: O'Connell shotalk and all thingsl For now, I want to
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: switch gears a little bit and chat about the upcoming
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: World Cup. Our men's national team with a couple international
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: friendly losses and not exactly pretty five two to Belgium,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit closer against Portugal, real cause for concern.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: Or just a blip on the.
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  Speaker 10: Radar, Yes, a little bit. To be honest with you,
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 10: Portugal and Belgium are kind of like dark horses to
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 10: win the World Cup, I'll be honest with you. They've
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 10: got so much talent. But what you do have in
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 10: the States is this burning desire to put yourself on
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 10: the map. There's a lot of rubbish spoken about Major
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 10: League Soccer from football snobs, I would say, and the
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 10: fact that the best player probably still the best player
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 10: at the age of thirty eight, in Leo Messi is
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 10: playing in the league and bringing a focus and could
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 10: still play anywhere in the world if he wanted to.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 10: Is is making a real good case for for Major
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 10: League Soccer and bringing other players over uh to to
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 10: play in this this league that is continuing to grow,
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 10: continuing to find ways to be more and more relevant.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 10: And I think that's going to help the United States.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 10: Maybe not of this World Cup, but it will certainly
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 10: light a fire with the fan base obviously with the
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 10: with Canada and Mexico being you know, the three hosts.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 10: With the US, I'm very very excited for for the
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 10: growth of the game. And as I said, when I
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 10: was a kid watching the World Cup back home, there
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 10: was nothing like it, you know, it was it was
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 10: the pinnacle in tournament wise. Now I feel like Champions
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 10: League in Europe has probably taken over that for me.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 10: And the reason being is is that those guys are
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 10: with each other all year long and the I just
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 10: built is better. But what's at stake for a World Cup?
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'm super excited. I mean, we get to
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 10: witness the Azteca be the opening game with Mexico and
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 10: South Africa's going to be the third World Cup. That
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 10: stadium is going to be is going to be used
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 10: for its third World Cup and that's history right there.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 10: And then obviously when you get to US kicking off
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  Speaker 10: against Paraguay in La, I think that's just where everything
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 10: just explodes for the country and the excitement will really
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 10: really built.
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  Speaker 2: A day later or so USA in Group D, it's
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: them in Paraguay and Australia and Turkey. Who else I'm
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: going to make assumptions that the USC at least gets
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: out of the group phase here. Who else in that
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: that group is dangerous?
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 10: Well, Turkey is obviously very dangerous. They have to go
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 10: through the playoffs and get a win on the road
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 10: to qualify for the World Cup, so they were just
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 10: newly qualified this week. They have those those players that
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 10: they can be absolute game changers, and they have this
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 10: skill of just playing right on the edge. It's either
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 10: going to go very very well for Turkey or or
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 10: it's going to be, you know, fisty cuffs, some walloping
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 10: going around, because sometimes the discipline and the passion boils over.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 10: But if, but if the US can stay disciplines and
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 10: find their game winners more consistently, it's it's a group
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 10: that is favorable, let's put it that way. But the
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 10: US really has to turn up and show what they're
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 10: made of to at least get into the knockout rounds,
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 10: which which will be massive for the nation and again
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 10: create excitement and create momentum in the stadiums as the
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 10: US places.
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  Speaker 2: You've already told us who a couple of your dark
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: horses on in the mention of Belgium and Portugal.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: But who does this World Cup go through in your mind?
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 10: Not England, excuse me. I feel like obviously Brazil and
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 10: Argentina will be there or thereabouts. France are still probably
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 10: the most dangerous country for me, just with the the
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 10: players that they have all different styles playing all over Europe,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 10: so they're not stuck in one way of playing. There's
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 10: so many ways. Obviously their they're ranks number one in
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 10: the world for a reason. Germany could be dangerous. I
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 10: always have high hopes for the Asian nations in the
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 10: South Korea and Japan. I always like to see them
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 10: get a couple of scouts and I would love to
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 10: see a deeper run a from an African nation. Ivory
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 10: Coast is one that I'll be keeping an eye on.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 10: But yeah, I just feel like there's there's so many
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 10: that's open. It's more about for me now because the
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 10: World Cup is bigger as in more teams going. It's
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 10: two are the real surprises. Could could Saudi could Qatar?
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 10: You know, get a bit of a run and create
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 10: some excitement there after guitar hosts of the last World Cup.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 6: But then you you.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 10: Throw out Spain, you throw out the Netherlands. Uruguay are
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 10: always going to be dark horses because they've always got
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 10: the ability to do something special as well with the
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 10: players that they have from a very tiny nation. And
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 10: this is where it becomes a real leveler who takes
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 10: their chances and who has that moment of magic to
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 10: send their nation through out of the groups and make
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 10: a deep run in the knockout round.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: Leo Messi is coming to Sandy, Utah this month, and
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: I've already seen, you know, the secondary ticket market for
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: this has gone absolutely insane, and you know, it was
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: a big announcement when when it came through, And you know,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: it's hard because I'm an American sports fan gov as
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: you know, and We've got some icons, certainly especially in
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: basketball on the international level, because that game has been adopted.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: Our heroes here are often NFL players that probably.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 4: Don't really move the needle.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: I go to Europe a lot to call fights now
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: and we've had Killing Embap show up at fights, and
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: we've had in Saudi, we've had Christiano Ronaldo show up.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: And the reaction that those people get when you show
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: their face on a Jumbo tron is bigger than anything
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: that happens because of the fights themselves, because of the
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: actual sport that people are in the arena to watch,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: like it's hard to really convey or even understand, and
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: as an American sports fan, the status that some of
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: these guys have and we're seeing it manifest itself with
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: this tour of Leo Messi making stops around MLS places,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: often only once or for the first time.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 4: What's it going to look like in Utah.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 10: I think it's just going to be a noise fest.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 10: I think there's going to be a lot of messy fans,
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 10: a lot of Argentina shirts, maybe some Barcelona shirts in
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 10: the crowd and right me. So it's exciting because it's
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 10: going to be the first time that I'm going to
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 10: actually watch him play light in person. So you know,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 10: as a as a host, yeah, I don't think that.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 10: You know, everything's going to be through rose tinted glasses,
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 10: is going to be messy, this, messy that. But I
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 10: just I'm so excited for the fans of Utah who
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 10: have you know, we've had some success earlier on and
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 10: then it's been a bit of a barren spell. And
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 10: the idea is that into Miami come in with their stars,
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 10: the reigning MLS champions, and he takes three points off
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 10: of them. But yet at the same time he gets
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 10: to watch one of the all time greats to ever
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 10: play the sport and will be very, very hard to
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 10: be matched when it comes to players in the future.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 10: We can never say never, but we might be witnessing
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 10: something that will never be seen again in our sport.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: Before I let you go strong start.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: As we've already discussed for this RSL squad, how sustainable
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: is it? This is such a marathon season, the Major
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: League Soccer season. It's like, all right, we're here in
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: the early goings in April and we'll be talking about
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: it in February when we're near the end of the season.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: It is just forever.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: And because of that, it feels harder and harder to
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: sustain and you know, to bring a cup home because
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: of it?
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 3: How do they do it? With these young guys.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 10: You need a bit of luck with when it comes
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 10: to the injury Bargarusol had a terrible time in pre
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 10: season and right before the opening game against Vancouver where
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 10: they got three injuries in one training session. You need
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 10: a little bit of luck and the the training stuff
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 10: are going to be keept at full tills managing minutes.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 10: You've already found out that these young players, the young
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 10: guys that have stepped up in Luca Moisa, Aiden Hesekhari,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 10: Sergei Salance, Griffin Dillon, obviously Xavier Goozo. He was he's
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 10: been around the squad.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 6: For a while.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 10: But you've already seen these young guys step up and
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 10: play substantial minutes already. They're going to be vital in
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 10: the in the dog days, particularly after the World Cup
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 10: is over and done with, where there's going to be
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 10: eight to well games in a month. That's going to
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 10: take some serious rotation. It seems to me that this
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 10: formation and the style that they're using is only going
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 10: to get stronger, but it's only as good as the
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 10: players that are available and informed, so they do need
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 10: a little bit of luck when it comes to injuries.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 10: That there is the opportunity. We know that a Mecca
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 10: and Nelly just went under the knife to get that
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 10: knee scope, so he'll be got hell won't be available
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 10: for another two three months, I suspect maybe a bit longer,
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 10: hopefully a little bit shorter, but there is an opportunity
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 10: in the summer, the real sort lake to bring in
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 10: another designated player, you know, one of those guys that
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 10: should be a real game changer. Right now, both spots
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 10: are full, but that's more for accounting purposes. Oh see,
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 10: with Justin Glad listed as a designated player, they'll be
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 10: able to buy him down and make him get him
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 10: out of that D slot, and then you have one open,
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 10: which could be really really helpful for RSL as long
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 10: as they do the business early. We've seen over the
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 10: last couple of years RSL bring in players very very
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 10: late in the secondary windows.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 6: This term in.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 10: Twenty twenty six, RSL moved very very quickly in the
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 10: first transfer window and got those players in very very
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 10: early and allowed them to a climate size, get used
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 10: to their teammates and the style that RSL wanted to play.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 10: And I think you're seeing the benefits of that now.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 10: We just need probably an extra spot and you know,
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 10: a shot in the arm come very early summertime when
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 10: the transfer market reopens to help RSL over the line.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 10: But right now, the Western Conference is going to be
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 10: very very tight. In general, there's so many, so many
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 10: good teams, oh see, with real game changes. You just
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 10: look at la FC, Sporting Sorry, San Diego, Vancouver SAT
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 10: just to name a few that are really really tough
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 10: opponents and are solo is going to play them in
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 10: the next couple of weeks.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 3: Gov, Let's do this more often, shall we?
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 10: Absolutely no, Madam always available for you guys.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: At Spencer Warren RSL Insider, pre half and postgame host
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: and we will be checking him with them more, especially
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: with the World Cup approaching.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Spencer, appreciate.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 10: You take Hey guys, b by.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 4: Great stuff from the GOV.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: Airing of grievances is next eight seven seven three five
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred. You know the drill, Get it
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: off your chest, tell me what's bugging you will air
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: your grievance on air and we'll head into the weekend unburdened.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: It's the Sean O'Connell Show ESPN seven ninety two FM, So.
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  Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the Murdoch
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• 2:13:01
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  Speaker 4: Am, boys with drinking.
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  Speaker 10: The tradition to Festivus begins with the airing of grievances.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of problems with your people, so
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: you're gonna hear about them.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, did you rite theiring of grievances here on the
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  Speaker 11: seven hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Get it off your chest?
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: All right, text us call us, we'll read your Grievance
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: on air, just like this from Derek Grievance for whoever
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: runs the Jazz Nation Instagram page. The April Fools joke
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: about the Jazz losing their pick was mean, pretty sure.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: Almost gave me a heart attack, mean spirited man. April
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: Fools jokes in sports, it's a it's a dicey prospect, man,
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: you gotta be careful.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 3: See you know who nailed it.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 5: And one I've been sharing this with everyone who who
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 5: didn't see it was the Utah Utah state in the
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 5: cowprint field. That's a sports related April Fool's joke. Okay,
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 5: especially on social media. I think I've got a theory
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 5: that April Fools jokes don't do well on social media
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 5: for like institutions that break news typically, I got a
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 5: theory that like, maybe maybe you guys just need to
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 5: not maybe your admins just need to sit April Fools out, because,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 5: like Spence was saying on April Fool's Day to you,
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 5: ohc during cross talk, we actually there are those of
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 5: us who rely on on those things too for news
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 5: and for commenting and finding news to comment on. And
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 5: sometimes it's like, oh shoot, I got duped and I
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 5: just brought that on air because this this normal, this institution,
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 5: this account typically breaks news. But today they decided to
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: do an ill, an ill conceived April Fools joke that
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: that looks like news, you know, So, I don't know,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 5: maybe maybe they seed to sit it out.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe we uh, we had a couple interesting April Fools
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: jokes in the NBA they did I can't remember who's
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: the team that did this. They brought a fake fan,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: like one of those actor fans, the people that get
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: the uh, the silly string from the mascot, like those folks,
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: and they had them come do a half court shot blindfolded.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the Wizards. It was the Wizards. They
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: got a lot of backlash for.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: They got a ton of backlash for it, and they
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: shued like a public apology because it was a blindfolded
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: half court shot for ten thousand dollars, and then they
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: lied and said excuse me. They lied and said you
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: won ten thousand dollars, and everyone's just like, that's messed up.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 5: It's personally affecting you. You're choking. I got choked up.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 5: I got choked up. I started crying. No, like they
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 5: the arena ho told everyone to cheer, even even though
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 5: he didn't make it to him. And then they announced
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 5: you won ten thousand dollars and as a big, big
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 5: joke on this guy that that's tough if you're that
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 5: the guy.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 4: Was in on the joke.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their announcement, he's like, oh this we just we
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: we we missed the mark.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he did. If you if the
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 3: guy wasn't actually fooled.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: Well he wasn't. It was arena was fool The arena
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: was fooled, which is the point of an April Fool's joke.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 5: And it's kind of kind of funny to say the
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 5: arena is in on the joke.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 4: Fight We're gonna fake cheer.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 5: And then it was the guy who is supposed to
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 5: be at the expense of was also in on the joke.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know very.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: I would love to know how many, like mostly old
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: probably like b y U fans, We're like.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 4: Did you see? Ah Devanca says he's staying.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 3: I knew he would. He's a special young man.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: And by the way, AJ's not really helping because he
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: went on another podcast and said, I haven't made a
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: decision about going to the NBA yet another one, and
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: he said, my mom's gonna decide. My mom wants me
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: to graduate. I'm just gonna do whatever my mom says.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: That's actually hyper messed up, because if your mom does
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: want you to stay and stay in school and graduate,
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: it's just because she doesn't have a great understanding of
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: this situation right now.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 4: And also, you're putting the responsibility on somebody else.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what if what if you end up regretting it
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 5: years later or next year if you end up staying.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: You go to the NBA and you're a bust and
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: they're just like, yeah, his mom should have let him
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 2: stay in school.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 4: That's not your mom.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 3: You're making the decision. AJ Come on, yeah, I don't
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: like that. Don't put on your mom. Like I said before,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: people call you a kid.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 5: And he's still he's still is he nineteen, maybe he's twenty,
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 5: like still very young, but like you are an adult.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 5: So you need to own your decisions and just tell
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 5: us you're going to the draft because you're not.
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 3: You're not going back to school. Grievance from Curtis.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: I love this time of year when spring flowers bringing
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: new life, blossoms, songbirds, but also severe allergies that no
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: medication can solve. If you're one of the lucky ones
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: I've burned by allergens, I envy you. I wish you
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: all a happy Easter weekend. Same to all of you,
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: a happy Easter weekend. Are you do you get hay
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: fever type allergies? So I have a week when I
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is that's blooming at the beginning
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: of the spring, early summer, I will have just a
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: violent sneeze, eyes, crazy running nose. But then it's like
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: my body adapts to it and it doesn't last. That
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: must be nice it doesn't last. But man, is it
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: annoying for that?
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 4: You know? Six seven days?
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely, I'm experiencing it right now. Some of
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 5: you might have noticed my little nasally tone to my
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 5: voice over the last week.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: I'm experiencing. I'm experiencing it right now.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 4: That's just your voice.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, fine, I'll just set that. I'll just let
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 5: that one go there. No, like it's so annoying because
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 5: for me, it's not like I know that there are
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 5: people that their throat will close up, their their eyes
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 5: will not stop itching. That's what I get that a
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 5: little bit, but like for me, it's just I just
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 5: have It's just annoying sinus stuff, and I'm like, can
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 5: I just not have this? Like I so yeah, we
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 5: both we both feel your pain. Text or Curtis from
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 5: Curtis from Kaysville.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Curtis from Kaysville eight seven seven three five
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred. If you want to air any grievances,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: I've got a weird one for you.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 4: Right now.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: And this is new ish phenomenon for me.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just coming around to this version of social media,
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's been around for a while, but very specifically,
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: we're seeing Casey Setera, my former teammate, awesome guy. His
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: team down at Corner Canyon High School is putting out
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: their weight room hype videos right now.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, and we saw.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: We talked about the offensive lineman bench pressing two twenty
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: five forty one times. I think yesterday maybe the day before,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: they had like a little dB one hundred and sixty
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: five pounder squatting four to twenty five, which is that's
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: a big number, man, that for somebody he's one hundred
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: and sixty five pound bodyweight, you're squatting over two times
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 2: your actual bodyweight.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 3: You're strong, right.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: And these are high school kids, and of course they're
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 2: going agro and they're going crazy and everyone's cheering and
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's just like it's a football thing, right.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: The comment section these particular videos is just the cesspool
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: of insecurity.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 4: And he's not even getting past parallel.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 3: Nice squad doesn't count. He's not locking out his elbows
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: all the way. None of those forty one reps count.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: Shut up, all right, Internet keyboard morons. They're high school kids,
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: all right. And if they're lifting, technique is not picture perfect.
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: They're not here in a lifting competition. They're not even
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: here at the NFL Scouting combine. They're in their home
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: weight room impressing themselves and their teammates.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 4: And we just happened to see it. And I'm get
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 4: hyped about it because.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: I remember being fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old and
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: you desperately want to be strong, right, and you're setting
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: these goals and you're trying to gain weight, and you're
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: trying to gain strength for your football program, and you're
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: just like, oh my gosh, the first time you hit
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifteen pounds, on a bench press it.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: You feel like it's a ride of pass that you
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: become a man. And some guys do it in high school,
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: and most of us who did it in high school did.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 9: It because we were arching our back, our crotch practically
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 9: on the ceiling, tiptoes on the ground, just straining it, and.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 4: Your spot are lying to you. Oh you all you,
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 4: all you, all you, and then.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: You get that you finally lock it out and you're
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: just like yeah, And guess what when we did it,
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: our friends just went and told everyone else.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: Dude, he hit three wheels on the bench today.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: Legend right, My buddy Scott, he was bentually like three
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: seventy five in high school and we were just like, bro,
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 2: he's putting a big weight. And guess what, Nobody had
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: a camera phone, Nobody had a camera period. Nobody was
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: putting it on the internet for a bunch of forty
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: five year olds who can't do it themselves, by the way,
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: to be like bad technique.
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 3: That's not it. That's not a clean bench.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: You want to know why because the kid weighs one
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy pounds and he shouldn't even be trying
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 2: to bench that much, but he's trying to be a man.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 6: Shut up.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 4: That's my a grievance.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 5: By the way, was there sounds like you had your
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 5: own little crotch gate going on back then?
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 4: We look, No, you know what I'm talking about.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: Right, when you're trying to max bench and you're just like,
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't matter at that point, you're just humping
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 2: it as high as you can and straining, and then
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: you know, and you're putting like the NFL is gonna
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: tell you that rep doesn't count. Okay, if you're any
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 2: powerlifting competition, sorry, kid, that rep doesn't count. But you
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: know what, every single one of them counts when you're
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: just there and pressing your buddies and your teammates.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 5: You're right, it's about camaraderie. It's about it's about feeling
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 5: good about getting better. That's what it's That's what that's about.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: And these videos we're seeing are of like literal children,
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: actual miners in most cases, putting up weight that most
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: of you out there listening right now, as a grown man,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: probably can't do.
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 5: Will I will tell you I have never I have
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 5: never thrown that kind of weight around, even when I
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 5: was a lot younger than I am.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: So look, it's shout out to these kids.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 2: I just like, if you don't, if you if you're
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 2: not impressed by it and you're not like I am,
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: just like, heck yeah, because you don't have those memories
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: associated with it, that's totally fine.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: You don't have to like it. You don't.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: You'd have to retweet it, you don't have to do
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: anything with it. Just it's so ridiculous. Well, you know
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: what the internet needs, it needs my opinion on this,
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: and in my opinion, bench press is not valuable for
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: athletic performance anyway.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 4: Just wanted to make that point. Sixteen year old Bye.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks dude. Cool about your day, all right? My grievance
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 2: is aired, feels good? Uh yeah, I have I have
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: a couple of grievances. One that's one that's that's like
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: really silly that I'm like, I may I may just
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 2: need to go outside for a little bit and get
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: some get grounded a little better.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, touchdowns is bothering me.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 5: Okay, but the weird tip off times for final four
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 5: games I think inn Cey tournament games in general. Did
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 5: you see the second game on Saturday? I put I
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 5: put a sensible time on the rundown. The second the
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 5: official tip time is six forty nine. Okay, yeah, like what.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 4: Are we It's every year?
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 3: Though, it's every year.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 5: I just I went, I went, we're gonna say six
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 5: forty five.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: Counterpoint, James, if you're actually tipping at six forty nine,
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: everyone thinks it's six forty five, and they get their
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: butts in the seats at six forty five so they
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: don't miss tip off.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 5: Just just do a regular time, like no one says
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 5: times like that. Even six point fifty is more acceptable
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 5: than six forty nine.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start doing this just to bug me, just
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: to bug you, James. See if we can get Colton
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: Swan on next week at twelve twenty one.
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 5: Just at one oh Nine's just like just to watch
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 5: you simmer, just say one ten, Nope, nop.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 4: James put in a request.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: We want Logan Cooley on the program at one oh
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: three next week.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 5: You're gonna you're like, please see see me on the text.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 5: So I make sure that you give the right time.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, don't don't round up or down.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 4: James.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that bugs me, But like I said, I
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 5: I recognize that I probably should be able to just
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 5: get over that. The other one is finally finally got
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 5: a chance to watch the new Wicked movie. Did you
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 5: watch either or both of these movies? Okay, wife's a
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 5: big fan of Wicked. We went and saw I went
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 5: and saw it on stage a few years ago in
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 5: Boston with her fun trip, and you know, fell in
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 5: love with it myself. I'm a big theater guy myself.
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: I love a good musical, I love the stage, I
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: love all of that. I just Wicked has not come
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: across your radar. I returned my lexicon.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 5: So, anyway, we were excited about the movies coming out.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 5: First movie was awesome. I have a grievance against the
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 5: second movie. It didn't need to be a second movie.
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 5: Oh they there was way. They added two new songs
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 5: that were not even that great. They did not They
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 5: do not stand up with the Broadway songs, the original
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 5: Broadway songs at all. It's like the live action Aladdin
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 5: movie that Disney did. Yeah, don't add a song, it's
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 5: already a perfect score. Anyway, there's that, and so these
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 5: there's generally two acts in a play, right, in a
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 5: Broadway musical, the first act is like seventy percent of
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 5: the actual show, and the second act is a lot shorter.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 5: So they in order to make this a feature length movie,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 5: they had to add they'd do stuff like add songs,
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 5: they were there was just there was so much. There
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 5: was so much time, like downtime that just isn't part
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 5: of the second act on stage.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 3: It's like just put.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 5: You just should have just made it one movie, because
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 5: the other thing about it is on stage it's a
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 5: three hour it's a three hour show. In feature film,
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 5: it's like four to five hours. Like it just it
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 5: could have been one movie. Yeah, they do this, They
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 5: did this with the Hobbit movies.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you could make that just like a
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: cool three and a half hour movie, or we could
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 2: make it three three hour movies so that we can
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: triple dip at the box office.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 3: Didn't have to do it, No, didn't have to do
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 3: any of it.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 5: I prefer I prefer the Hobbit movie to the second Wicked,
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 5: the Hobbit movies to the second Wicked. But yeah, you're right,
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 5: unnecessary frivolous stuff that they had to do to make
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 5: to justify making two more movies.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 3: I just I.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes it works, and I'm not an I'm not
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 5: anti creative license.
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 3: There's so many people to get worked up about. I
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 3: didn't follow the book exactly.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 5: Like, well, it's not a book. That's why I'm okay
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 5: with that in general. But like it doesn't work all
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 5: the time, Like let's just make one movie.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 3: It's usually money grab what happened?
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it, but I was disappointed with with
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 5: Wicked for good and I was I was excited about it,
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 5: so yeah, disappointing.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 4: Uh, Derek says James.
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: Can we please get an interview with Devin dan Pier
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: next Wednesday, twelve seventeen, Please and thank you.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, this is a thing now.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: Derek is locked non rounded time slots for every request
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: you have for James Peterson also grievance against whoever our
• 2:29:55
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• 2:29:56
  Speaker 4: I should not be.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 9: Sitting in our studio working my laptop off a hotspot.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: We're a media company. It's called Broadway Media, all right.
• 2:30:07
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 12: I always the timing when I get in my car
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 12: to turn on your show. Yeah, whenever I have an awkward,
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 12: odd timing situation. Is I turn on my car, turn
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 12: on the radio and I hear you yell and my
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 12: crotch was on the ceiling. Yeah, I was like, huh.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 12: And obviously you were talking about benching. Yeah, bench press
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 12: you went to explain it, but it was the first
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 12: thing I heard you say. I'm like, uh, buckle up,
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 12: this is good. Yeah, this is good. We've all been there,
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 12: you know.
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: Hey, An undersized, under strength individual under weight that you
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: sho have no business being under and you just you're
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: arching that back.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 6: Baby. Yeah.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 12: Well, especially when you're a basketball player and you go
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 12: lift with the hockey players and the football players and
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 12: they're all looking at you like, can you even get
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 12: like a plate up? So you're you know, as a freshman,
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 12: as a fourteen year old freshman, I was like five five,
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 12: one hundred and five pounds, okay, and I played varsity basketball.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 4: But I was just like a I got a show,
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 4: I got a picture.
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 12: I'll show you fourteen year old Spence checkets guarding this
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 12: seventeen year old senior from dan Berry, Connecticut, who's like
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 12: six four forty.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 4: I look like I have no business being on the floor.
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 12: But it was always intimidating because my friends were football players,
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 12: and you know, hockey players and those guys can lift,
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 12: you know, and certain basketball players can. But when you're
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 12: young in the weight room and you're the freshman on
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 12: the team lifting with seniors, it can be a little intimidating.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 12: So what was your Your grievance was with people posting
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 12: on the internet, Like I.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: Have no problem with people posting the results of their
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: weight room, Like, clearly this this is like Quarter Canyon
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 2: High School.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 4: Kind of recruiting. Yeah right, yep.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 2: Casey, Satara, are guys down there. He took over for
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: airic Care and he's they've got some impressive lifters in
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: that room, and he's letting these kids get their flowers
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: and he's letting programs get you know, like the name
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: of these kids and like it's smart. And if you
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: go to the comments section, it's just a bunch of
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: dudes outrage being like, well that's not good farm.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, don't do that. Shut up the kids,
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 12: all right, leave them alone.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 4: Any any grievances spilling in about me today?
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 6: No?
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three five three, If you want to
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: air your spence check it's a specific grievance.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 3: We always have time for that.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 4: I love them. Do you have a grievance?
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 12: Yes, I have a grievance against Duke Dude. Dare you well,
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 12: dude continues to look. As I've told you before, it's
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 12: always the dog owner's fault. I have none, not not
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 12: Duke University, because I actually pick youkn of win that game.
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 4: It's so we're good. Grievance against my dog duke.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 12: He thinks it's time to play at three thirty am
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 12: every single night. It's not grievance against duke. When we
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 12: stopped to get his pop cup, he got too excited
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 12: licked it. Now there's whipped cream all over my car.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 12: Grievance against the guy at the dog park for being nice.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 12: Don't talk to me. I'm there for my dog to play.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 12: I don't want to get to know you.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 4: I hate you people at the dog park.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 12: Grievance my accountant ways too expensive to do my taxes.
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 12: Grievance taxes period, indeed we went, we did. Grievance Java
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 12: Joe's took way too long to make my coffee today.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 12: Grievance the young men who are renting the house across
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 12: from me. Shut up. Okay, you're loud. Let me get
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 12: some sleep. Grievance against women. No, no, no, no, no, there,
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 12: Mike's Mike grievance. No it out, no no, not not
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 12: like you know how James thinks women should only be
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 12: in the kitchen.
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 4: Not like that, not like that.
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's like a James Peterson level of agreement.
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 12: No, no, we're not like sagynistic like hate all women
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 12: type stuff, just like grievance today, just against women.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 4: Grievins against James. He's wearing a red Sox shirt.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 12: Grievance against you, no reason, Yeah, exactly, Privins Utah Basketball
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 12: two conference wins. Grievance Utah Jazz, four years of being irrelevant.
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 12: Grievence RSL Soccer's not that cool. Calm down, hot take, grievince,
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 12: Governor Cox.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just on fire at this point.
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 4: Just grievance.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 12: Whoever was driving the ESPN seven hundred van took way
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 12: too long to open up the gate.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 3: That's why I was a little late. Spence is aggrieved.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 4: Grievance, my bank, random chargers for no reason. Grievance.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 12: Apple charges me every day for something like it's only
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 12: two fifty, Like, but what why is Apple charging me two.
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: Fifty subscribing to like their fit bit?
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, grievance.
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 12: Whole Foods calmed down not that good, Okay, it's way overpriced,
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 12: calm down like chill out whole food.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 4: There are certain grocery stores.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: I'm a bargain hunter's all of you know, Yeah, certain
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 2: grocery stores that I can't even walk in because I
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 2: just start to like, they probably see me coming a
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 2: mile away, like this guy's not gonna buy anything here. Yeah,
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 2: because I walk in and I'm just like, I'm sorry.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 2: That bone in ribbi is eighty four dollars and I
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: have to cook it myself.
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 4: Oh it's wag you. Okay, guess what.
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could go to a restaurant and they'll do
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 2: it for weeks for less than that.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah, grieven Store Dash. Some fees are fine. Exorbitant fees
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 12: are ridiculous. Uh, Grievens, Dave Fox, you have the communication
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 12: skills of an eight year old. Let's see, we're on
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 12: a roll. Baby, Let's see. I could keep going, but
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  Speaker 12: I feel like that's that'll.
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  Speaker 6: Do for now.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. I hope you feel better. Oh good.
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  Speaker 12: So, by the way, no, no, I listen. I believe
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  Speaker 12: and you can look this up. I might being correcked.
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  Speaker 12: I think they set that dopey six forty nine time
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  Speaker 12: anticipating a delay, so it's more like seven for the tip, okay,
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 12: because it's predicated off.
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  Speaker 4: The first game finishes. I believe I have that right.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 12: Grievance, Danny Hurley and Mick cronin your lunatics, calm down.
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  Speaker 12: Grieven's college basketball coaches.
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  Speaker 3: I want them to be crazy. Gives us lots to
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 3: talk about.
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  Speaker 12: If Danny Hurley wins the national championship, he might go
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 12: Mike Tyson on a ref might just start biting gears
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  Speaker 12: so weird.
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  Speaker 3: And then the ref will be suspended for the next
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 3: Final four.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's an odd things played.
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  Speaker 3: But what if their friends?
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah even strange.
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  Speaker 2: We played poker together. That's why I bit his ear off. Yeah,
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: and now he can't work the final four.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 12: Grievans Chris Comrodnie chill out with the hair, dude, like,
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 12: get a cut? Whoa, yeah, Grievence, Aaron Falk, you're not
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 12: that smart. Okay, I'm just gonna run down all my guests.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's good, that's wonderful. Privince Andy Larson Nerd. But
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 4: that's his thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't air that grievance.
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he owns it. It's not an insult.
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 4: But these are my grievances.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, I grievance against me for for trying to
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  Speaker 2: correct your own grievances.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's in the spirit of the grievance. That's
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 12: what we're doing today.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 4: All right, cool?
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we just get four hours of this.
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  Speaker 12: I'm gonna come in every Friday from now on because
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 12: I feel so much better now, grievance gets my therapist.
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 4: Why aren't we doing more of this? Sudden? I feel
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 4: a lot better.
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna come in with a list of stuff every
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 12: Friday and just unload.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: You owe me one hundred and twenty five dollars for
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 3: the hour.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 4: That's scarily accurate. Oh, it's such a waste of money.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 4: Grievance therapy. While we're at it, just just get.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 12: Into it, Dupe, don't do that. You've already I already
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 12: have two grievances of you.
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 2: Duke, You've already been grievanced twice today. Don't do it.
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 2: Don't dig yourself more of a hole.
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 12: There's whip cream all over the front seat in my
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 12: car because Duke got excited for his pop cup.
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 4: What do you think is get never mind?
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 12: No, usually we can usually I get the coffee and
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 12: then I can usually hold it until we're driving away.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 12: He pawed me so he could get it. He did
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 12: get the bone, but the whip cream is everywhere. Back
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 12: to the dog, park. Guy just got my headphones in.
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: Oh you know you left out that detail. If the
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: headphones are in, you can't be talked to. Our dogs
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 2: are playing, which is the goal. That's why I take
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 2: Duke to the dog park. Go get your energy out.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 2: And I feel him like walking towards him, like gives
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: me away. Friendly fella. Yeah, just I don't make a
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 2: ned Flanders.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 12: It's like Seinfeld says, I'm not taking applications for new friends.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 12: Like we're good at this point in my life. I'm
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 12: all set, the circle set, I'm good. Lovely fella lawyer
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 12: lives up in the avenues. I didn't need to know that, married,
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 12: two kids, two lovely dogs.
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 4: You were at that that, Linda.
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  Speaker 12: Gardens, lind Yeah, just get take them off the leash
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 12: and they're usually three or four other dogs.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what happens whenever I take Rocky there.
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 4: He kicks the crap out of the other dogs.
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 2: He doesn't do anything, he just runs up, he smells them,
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 2: and people are just like I'm scared and they leave,
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 2: and then it's me and my poor dog, who's like,
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 2: why does.
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 4: Anyone like me?
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 2: Oh it's too bad, And I'm just like maybe it's
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 2: my face. Maybe I have like a predatory face.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 12: I don't know, probably a combination of the large animal
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 12: that you bring to the park and the fact that
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 12: you snarl at everybody.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 4: I don't Grievince Slimsey Gardens.
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 12: Don't say you don't want the dogs in the baseball
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 12: diamond and leave the gate open. Shut the gate if
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 12: you want the dogs out of there, Grievince Slimsey Gardens.
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, just ridiculous.
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 3: Also, they need to fix the bridge on their playground.
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 4: Yes they do, Yes, they do.
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 12: You're right right now. It's caution tape over both ends. Yeah,
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 12: not good enough, Grievance Lindsay Gardens.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 2: You got a two year old who likes to send it.
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 2: You know what happens to that caution tape?
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, come on,