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#115 - Vampires Part I · Phantom Journey's Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_04: Hey Matt, how you doing, buddy?
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_05: Hey Ken, how you doing?
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_04: I'm doing good.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_04: I'm doing good.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_05: Uh oh well.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_05: So there goes the ghost didn't like that thing.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_05: Something just fell off the table, but it was on the edge.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_05: I think it may have been never.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, so it was on the edge.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_05: So it could be 50% ghost or 50% vibrations.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_05: So if you're on the edge, you know, some limbs just fall.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_05: You just fall.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's what happens when you live life on the edge like we do.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_05: Sometimes you just fall.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_05: On the edge of a messy desk.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_05: I really need to clean up my desk a little bit.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I was talking about the edge of a you know the blade of the blade of an exciting life.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_05: Oh well, well, there's that too.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_05: There is that too.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_05: So anything exciting happened to you over the last couple of weeks?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_05: The last couple of weeks.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_05: Since our last recording issue session, I should say.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_04: I had a contractor in to rewire my little uh Starfield uh code for you.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's going good.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's going good.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_04: I have light.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I had light before, but I have a better light.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_04: I have the TV mounted now instead of just sitting on a uh box, uh we're good.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_05: Sounds good.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I just gotta wait for the couch to get in, and then I got my little uh my little nook done.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_05: Nice, nice.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_05: That sounds good.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_04: I still gotta figure out what to put on all the uh um shelves and stuff.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_05: Oh I think oh I'm sorry, I just got a text message.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_05: I left my phone on, sorry.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_05: How many times have I told you guys turn your ringer off before we record?
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_05: Hang on a second.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_05: Since here we got a message on the Phantom Journeys website.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, really?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like do you want to increase your SEO coverage or something like that?
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_05: Well, hang on, let's let's go to uh PhantomJourneys.com.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_05: And check it out.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_05: Ken, you're not gonna believe this.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_05: We got a message from an elephant?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh it looks like we got a voice note.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_05: It says it's from Mr.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_05: Kula from Romania.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let's get it.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_04: We got listeners in Romania?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_04: I guess so.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_04: How freaking cool is that?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: Let's have a listen.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: Let's listen.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Dear Matt and Ken of Phantom Journeys.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: It is with the greatest pleasure that I invite you both to my humble residence in the beautiful mountains of Transylvania.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: I am hosting a small gathering to celebrate Halloween, and I cannot imagine a more delightful pair of guests to have for dinner.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: There will be music, dancing, and exquisite refreshments, and of course there will be blue red wine.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: Please do not mistake my enthusiasm for impatience.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: After all, I am a gentleman.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: And a gentleman knows that the finest things in life are worth waiting for.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: Your journey should be quite simple.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: Follow the old road through the forest until you reach the castle upon the hill.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: You will know you have arrived when you see a large iron gate.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: The gate how they squeak.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: I've tried oil, but they prefer screaming.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: But please, do not be frightened.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: My home is perfectly safe mostly.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: I have prepared the guest rooms, lit the candles, impolished the silver, and instructed the servants to keep the garlic far, far away from the dining room.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: I do hope you will stay for dinner.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: I insist.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: After all, it would be terribly rude to leave before the main course.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: And gentlemen, do bring an appetite.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: I have one myself.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: Blah, blah, blah.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: You get the idea.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: Your most gracious host, Mr.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: A.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: Hewlar.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you encounter a large bat on your journey, please give him my regards.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: He is harmless.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_02: Probably.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: PPS, do not bring holy water.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: It makes an awful mess on the card.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: P P PS, actually bring it.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: I do enjoy a challenge.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: P P P PS, I am kidding.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: Mostly.
• 4:38
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• 5:27
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• 5:32
  SPEAKER_04: And let's go.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_04: It's time to fire up the teleporter.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: No?
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: Now let's go.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_06: We're here!
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_05: Oh god.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_05: So dark here.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_05: I even need torches.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, got it, right here.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_05: Oh thanks.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, why didn't the alien just teleport us nearer to the castle?
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_05: Don't they get close to houses on fire hills and object people all the time?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_05: Aliens are like that.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_04: Besides, you refuse to go any closer for some reason.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I guess we're walking.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_05: Are you sure we're going the right way?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_04: You mean up a very steep hill with no other roads?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_04: Look, uh I think I see a signpost.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_04: It says, this way to Dr.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_04: Kula's mansion.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_04: Dr.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_05: Kula?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_05: Why does that sound familiar?
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_05: All the way out here in Transylvania.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_05: Just on the tip of my tongue.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_05: You know what?
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_05: Something just doesn't feel right.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_05: I told you not to eat that floor sushi.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_04: Floor uh hey, I like gas station sushi, so this couldn't be any worse.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_05: It had big foot hair on it.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_04: Just hey look, we're here.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_04: See?
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_05: Big house, big door.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_05: Home of Dr.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_05: A.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_04: Kula.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: A Kula.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_04: Dr.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_04: Akula.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_06: Dracula! Happy Halloween!
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_05: So Helly Ken.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_05: It's Halloween.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_05: It's Halloween can.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_04: Did you get your costume yet?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_05: I did get my costume.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what is it?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's a secret until Halloween, right?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly, exactly.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you ready to go chunk or training?
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_05: I am.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_05: I have a very special guest coming on for Halloween.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_05: But not for the show.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_04: Uh do you guys get a lot of trick-or-treaters here?
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_05: I think I'm supposed to I think they do with all those car booms.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_05: What do you call again?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_05: Uh chunk or treat.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_05: Trunk or cheat, that's the one.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_05: Trunk or cheat is not what the trunk or trunk or cheat.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_05: Tree.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_05: Tree.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_05: Tree.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_05: What's it?
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_05: Tree?
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_05: Cheat.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_05: Trunk of a tree?
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_04: Cheat?
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe I just did a chance to get a chance to get away.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_05: No, you're right.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_05: I said cheat the first time and tree the second one.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_05: I'm losing me, marbles.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_04: I've I we went moved from a neighborhood where we're on a bad year we had seven to eight hundred kids.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_04: On a good year we had twelve hundred.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_04: Uh to where I think last year somebody that was on the street said they had two.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: And one of them might have been there by mistake.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_04: My uh mother-in-law keeps telling me I need to decorate the house, and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I do need to decorate this a little bit, make it a little bit more Halloween-y.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I don't understand the the fake cobwebs.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_04: I threw the bag out and it just looks like it did when I was on the counter at the store.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_04: I don't understand.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_04: You're meant to pull it up.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like put the bag up higher?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_04: Put the put the put take it out of the bag first.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_04: The bag's not part of it?
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_05: No, why why would the bag be part of the decoration?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not a spider.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe you pull a little bit out as well and then you attach the bag to your back and then just run around.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_05: It's gonna run around the house.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my goodness.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_04: That would be something that uh a lot of people would probably want me to put on uh YouTube, but I'm not going to.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_05: You could you could do that.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_05: You might actually get a lot of hits.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_04: You think we get monetized?
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_05: Well, maybe, who knows?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_05: Who knows?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_05: You might just be called.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_05: This viral uh viral video of this idiot running around the house with uh cobwebbing coming out.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_05: So have you got any plans for Halloween?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_05: Are you gonna do one?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_05: I I have no idea to be honest with you.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um I usually, well, before we moved, our neighborhood would get so inundated uh with like tour buses and cars parked everywhere and so many kids that we typically just took the day off.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_04: And then if we weren't participating in giving out candy, then we would go and go out and have a to a movie and dinner and then come back when everything's kind of calmed down, we could actually find a place to park.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_05: Do you find it easy to um you know go find places to eat on Halloween?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_05: It was quiet.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was very quiet.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_05: Going out on Christmas or going out on, you know.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't like we were wanting to ditch giving out candy.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_04: It was just that if you weren't if you didn't have a parking spot by noon, you weren't going to be able to park.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_04: In fact, one year I had to be at work and I we didn't have any plans, and I came home and I circled probably for I'm I'm not kidding you, three hours and all these kids running across the street just to find a place to park.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_04: And it it was insane.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_04: And I still walked probably about a mile back to the house.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_04: So we're actually kind of happy to be out of that uh net house for a little while.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: I'd say at the same time, two trick-or-treaters really.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: Remember when you were a kid?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't know about in Ireland, but here's when I was a kid.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, in Ireland's a bit different.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_04: There was a lot of kids everywhere, it didn't matter what.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, always.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_05: But like the funny thing is, like, when we forced males here, and I'll probably say this every year, but when we forced males here, like we were expecting lots of kids to be choked or so we bought a ton of candy.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_05: And you they didn't unknown.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_05: And then you got to eat all the candy.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_05: We ate all the candy.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_04: Well, technically all the candy, but did you have to say trick-or-treat before you took a piece every time?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_04: That's the rule.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't do it though.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_04: Well, then you've got probably five years' bad luck from that now.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_04: Seven's for a mirror, five is for not saying trick-or-treat before eating trick-or-treat candy.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I I don't make the rules.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know the answer to that.
• 11:51
  unknown: I don't know.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_05: Oh god.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_05: I got into snort.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know the snort.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so we're we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna get an episode.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_04: Uh this.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna try and break a mirror to try and offset your bad luck.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's actually I broke a mirror.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_05: Like, like actually I would say it probably would have been seven to eight years ago.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_04: Oh really?
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_05: So it's just now kind of I think so, yeah, honestly.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_05: Because I remember when um when I had Military 4 or something, we're getting rid of a lot of stuff and there was a mirror.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_05: And she wanted me to break a mirror, and I'm like, I'm not breaking a mirror.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's bad luck.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not like crazy super speed, super specious.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_05: Super speed.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_05: Super spicious.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_05: Superstitious, but I'm not ever gonna like that's one thing you don't break a mirror.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_05: And she goes, No, it's okay, you own it, you're allowed to break your own stuff.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, okay, well she knows best because she's a witch or whatever, so don't do that.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it didn't work.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_05: Don't break mirrors.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_04: Well, did you break it by dropping her or did you just look at it?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_04: He set me up for that one.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you should have saw the look on his face.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_04: Never breaking a mirror again.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_04: Well, let's go to break then.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned, or I'll kill you.
• 13:08
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• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: And we're back.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: We're back! We're back.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: That was quick.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: That was a quick.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_04: It was almost like I closed my eyes and boom, we were back.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so Ken, in this episode.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_04: This episode.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_04: What are we talking about in this episode?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_05: We are going to be leaning into the Halloween spirit and talk about the Halloween experience.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: Leaning forward, leaning back.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_05: As we open the boxing ring.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_04: You know I've crossed the line when he doesn't respond.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_05: This in this boxing ring, Ken, we're gonna have Nosferatu versus Dracula, as well as a few sideliners of the screen time monsters.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh that Dracula has encountered, so we're gonna just we're gonna have a bit of fun, we're gonna learn a few things, and um yeah.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_05: Excellent, excellent.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_05: When someone asks about vampires, the most obvious answer is usually Count Dracula.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_05: He's been the face of vampires for most of the early 20th century.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_05: However, sorry, there's a guy outside of the start's bike, and it doesn't sound good.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um however, a vampire is basically any supernatural being that has risen from the dead to feed on life force or blood of the living, even if it was a small slug.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_05: And technically, that's what a leech is.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_05: It's a vampire.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean it's been dead in the well, no, uh technically a vampire is anything that that needs blood to survive.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_05: Um I don't mean like humans, humans aren't vampires because they do need blood to survive, but they need to drink blood to survive.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_05: I'm with you.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: A cow could be a vampire if it drank blood, and that would be utter terrifying.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that was bad.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_05: Most of Earth's corned blood drinking creatures don't have the kind of superpowers that Dracula had.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_05: Nothing like getting seduced by a a group of leeches and then whack, you're dead.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_05: I don't like that a bit.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_05: Mosquitoes, for example, use blood as protein to lay their eggs, and the leeches, they use their saliva as an anticoagulant.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_05: The blood never stops flowing until it is until it's full or falls off.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: Or gets ripped off.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_05: True.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_05: There are a few species of bat that do drink blood.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_05: Some, if you do special things, produce epidemics.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_05: The question is, was the bat in Wuhan eaten or seduced by Barry White and some dim lighting?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_05: Horse horseflies, deer flies, and kissing bugs, butt flies, bed bugs, ticks, um even catfish.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_05: So, yes, there are living creatures that drink blood.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_05: They don't need tiny when they lift.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_05: I think so, they must do.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_05: Uh they don't need you don't need tiny stakes driven through their hearts to kill them, eitherwise.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_05: But don't confuse Dracula as a carnivore.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_05: He will eat he he won't eat you, but he will drain you.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: So he's not a it's not a cannibal.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_05: Not really.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_05: No, maybe.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um believe it or not, there's actually a big difference between Nosferatu and Dracula.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_05: They're spelled different.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_05: Personally, I thought it was the same thing, but after talking to somebody who loves vampires and their lore, it turns out I was generalizing vampires.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_05: How that is.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_05: Nosferatu was a vampire by all rights.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_05: He was the absolute vampire in terms of a monster or a demon.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_05: He was the dark side of the genre.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_05: Nosferatu was one of the most famous vampires in horror history, but he wasn't the or but he wasn't originally created as his own character.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_05: He first appeared in the 1922 German silent film Nosferatu, a symphony of horror directed by FW Mornow.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_05: The film was an unauthorized adaptation of Bram Stroker's Stroger's Stokers.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_05: Bram Stoker's Dracula, with Count Dracula named uh renamed to Count Orlock.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_05: Rather than portraying Dracula as an elegant astrocrat, Murnow transformed him into something for uh far more disturbing, a bald, uh corpse-like, rat-featured creature associated with plague, death and decay.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_05: Unlike this seductive vampire that would later dominate Hollywood, Orlock feels less like a man and more like death given a body.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_05: The film never gives him a detailed human origin, although an occult book shown in the story claims that Nos Ratu sprung from sprung from the seed of Belial, suggesting demonic origin.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_05: He feeds on blood, travels with rats, and is instantly destroyed by sunlight.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_05: A weakness that became one of the most famous vampire rules in popular culture, despite not being part of Stoker's original Dracula.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_05: Over decades, Nosfratu became more than simply Dracula uh a Dracula uh abdotation.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_05: Count Orlock became an iconic interpretation of the vampires.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_05: Ancient, unnatural, diseased, and terrifying, rarity, and charming or romantic in many ways.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula became the vampire that people wanted to meet while Nosfratu became the vampire they were supposed to fear.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_05: Orloc was a noble Romanian dark sorcerer who made a deal with Belial, although it is not so much mentioned, there are implications.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_05: There is a scene in the 2024 Nosferatu that apparently Count Orloc performs a ritual and becomes Dracula.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: But I have also heard that he made someone else do the ritual and they became Dracula.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_05: There is an early uh there is an earthly disconnection between Nosratu and Dracula.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_05: So the character for Nosratu is demonized of what a vampire is when it comes to demons and the darkness.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_05: Death is a stench that follows with no chivalry.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_05: There have been no intimate connections to our world, but they do have their own hellish connection.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: Nos Ratu cannot change into a bat or a wolf.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_05: There is no druid nature of human to animal, even if rats have followed him.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_05: But just like the darkness that follows him, his own shadow is an extension of him, but he must drink blood to stay alive.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula, on the other hand, can change into a bat and has the ability to change into a wolf.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_05: The versions of vampires that have come from Dracula oddly become more humanized than demonized, and don't take that into an extreme view that any vampire movie or TV show splits into two sides.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_05: Noshrastu is the horror, the demon, the evil.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula is more like the passionate side of humanity.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, he's able to drink blood, but technically he doesn't need to kill you to survive.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_05: He just drinks blood to gain life force.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_05: And having more life force makes him a better human, oddly enough.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_05: He's not a rotting old rat-faced demon.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_05: He's been he has been an honorable man with charm and even kindness if need be.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_05: He can blend into the night with other humans and take his pick of treats with supernatural strength and charm and mind control.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: But even that comes a price.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_05: He can never be too famous because he would have to show his face during the day.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_05: While he may not be instantly killed by sunlight, it will leave a nasty burn.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula does have the ability to become fog, and Garlican crucifixes can hurt him too.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_05: He has no reflection, and other than his charming or sorry, other than ramming a stake through his heart, you can place wild roses on his coffin while he sleeps, and he is imprisoned forever.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_05: So, Ken, one thing I'd like to do is look at vampire's.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: True time from the movies and the TV shows and let our hearts and mind.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, I read that wrong.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_05: From movies to TV shows that we have let into our hearts and mind.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: Which is uh interesting that you bring this up because I just started reading Dracula.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_05: You did.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: I did.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: I was thinking uh the other day as uh well someone pointed out some things from Dracula, the movie, and I was like, well, I've seen the movie, but you know, I never read the book.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_04: And I didn't realize the book is actually a series of diary page entries.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: So it's interesting.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: It's really cool.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm enjoying it.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_04: That's really cool.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't want to jump straight into the the twilights or the blades and all this, but if you go back in time and you look at all the difference, almost like Monster Mash in a way.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_05: You know, Dracula was always a part of these.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_05: So one of the things that goes and uh Chini and those guys.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: So in this one we have Dracula and the Wolfman.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula first met the Wolfman on a particularly foggy night in the Capathian Mountains.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula was intrigued by the howling coming from the forest and discovered a man who had spent his nights as something that he desperately could not control.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula naturally saw an opportunity.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_05: He offered the wolfman a place among his people.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_05: The wolfman wasn't particularly interested in becoming part of a vampire empire, but he did appreciate that Dracula never asked what happened during the full moon.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_05: Eventually they deployed at some kind of uh I'm sorry, eventually they developed some kind of friendship where neither one of them remembered whose turn it was to bring dinner.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_05: And next up we have uh Dracula and Witches.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_05: Or Dracula and Outwitch.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula's relationship with Witches is considerably older than most of his friendships.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_05: Witches understood something humans don't.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula wasn't simply a monster, he was a supernatural creature operating according to ancient rules.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: Their first meeting probably wasn't particularly friendly.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_05: A witch had summoned something that she had believed was a demon.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: Which interesting enough, maybe a witch summoned Nosratu.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: Or maybe that's where Nosuratu got the uh you know the the person who found.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_05: I can I can buy that.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: No, so that that's interesting as a read.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: So only to discover Dracula standing in a circle accompanying uh I'm sorry, standing in a circle complaining about the quality of the candles.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_05: Over time they became useful and acquaintances.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_05: She knew spells, he knew courses.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_05: Both agree that garlic was an absolutely ridiculous ingredient to keep around the house.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: Nice.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, garlic is not for everybody.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_05: I love garlic.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: I do too, actually.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_04: It's for man candles.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_04: Then all of a sudden, Matt does not like garlic.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: And only out at night, then I might be starting to think different things.
• 25:05
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• 25:07
  SPEAKER_05: Garlic.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_05: I support garlic.
• 25:13
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• 25:17
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Dracula and Frankenstein's monster.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_05: Because everybody thinks that Frankenstein is the monster, but it is.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_05: It is.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_05: We know best there.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula and Frankenstein's monster.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula and Frankenstein's monster would have had an unusual understanding.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_05: Both creatures were created or transformed by forces beyond ordinary human understanding.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_05: And both discovered that people often fear what they don't understand.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula would probably be fascinated by the monster's construction, while the monster would have been would have had little patience for Dracula's theatrical personality.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_04: Would you say he was flamboyant?
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula would call him my dear fellow, the monster would stare silently, and Dracula become uh would continue talking anyways.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_05: Now I think Frankenstein's monster would look at him and go, Yes, yes, my dear fellow.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 26:21
  unknown: Exactly.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um Dracula and the Mummy.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_05: So who's Mummy?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_05: Anybody's mommy.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula's mommy?
• 26:30
  unknown: Mommy.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula uh respected the mummy immediately, but not because they had much in common, but because Dracula recognized another immortal who had been around long enough to become extremely tired of explaining himself.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: Ooh, I must be a vampire because I'm tired of explaining myself.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_05: Their conversations would be probably conversations would probably consist of long pauses, ancient grudges, and arguments about who have been undead longer.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_05: Neither would know exactly when they became friends, friends.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_05: They would simply have been friends for several centuries.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_05: I died first.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_05: No, I I died first.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: He's not Mario.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh blah blah blah! There you go.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um so Dracula and the creature from the Black Lagoon.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula met the creature while travelling through some swamps and immediately assumed the creature.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_04: What is Dracula doing in the swamps?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_05: Well he's looking for something to eat.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_05: Did Dracula eat?
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean Dracula.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_05: Blood?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe there's no humans around, so he wasn't.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_04: He wants a little Cajun blood?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_05: An alligator or something?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, something like tougher.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um immediately assumed that the creature f was another astrocrat who had simply chosen a more aquatic lifestyle.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_05: The creature didn't speak.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula didn't care.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_05: They understood one another one another perfectly true uh well well, I'm sorry, perfectly well true gestures, staring, the occasional terrifying roar.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula eventually invited him to Transylvania for dinner.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_05: See that's where we messed up too.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_05: The creature accepted.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula later discovered that the creature preferred fish.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_05: And Dracula considered his deeply disappointing but admirable uh admired his friend's diary.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_05: Uh well what else did he think you would eat?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, humans.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_05: He's a mon he's a fish monster.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_04: But he lives in a swamp.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_04: What else is he gonna eat?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody else came rocking around until Dracula stopped by.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe it was four spaces ago.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_05: Someone wasn't with me.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean you want to eat fish?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_05: Blah blah blah.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula and the Phantom of the Opera.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_05: His friend would be almost unbearable.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula is theatrical.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_05: The Phantom is theatrical.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula enjoys dramatic entrances and the Phantom enjoys the same.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_04: Can you imagine if they both walked into the room at the same time, they try to upstage each other?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_05: And they keep leaving and coming back in trying to upstage each other.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_05: So crazy.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula wears a cape and the Phantom wears a mask.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_05: Their first meeting would probably last about 10 minutes before they began arguing over who has the most impressive castle.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_05: And eventually they would agree on one thing.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_05: Humans simply the castle.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about castle.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_05: Oh okay.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_05: They would agree on one thing.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_05: Humans simply don't appreciate good gothic architecture anymore.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_05: So you're right, they're talking about castles.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_05: They got a band together.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_05: They got the monster match.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I can see that very well.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_05: He simply insists that he did.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_05: According to Dracula, every great monster eventually ends up at one of his parties.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_05: That's why you invite us, couldn't well not monsters, but uh monstrously del uh exciting, beautiful.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_05: Werewolf uh uh werewolves, I'm sorry, vampires, werewolves, witches, mummies, ghosts, and mad scientists.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my has us in there because we're mad scientists.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_05: We're mad.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_05: We are the creatures from places that resemble no maps should contain Dracula considers himself an unofficial host of the supernatural community.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody else has ever voted for him.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_05: He doesn't seem particularly concerned about that either.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't vote for you.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_04: So as we move on to the more Mr.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_04: Dracula, I knew Nasferatu, and you are no Nasferatu.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_04: For shame, dear fellow.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_05: Of course I am.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_05: I'm much better looking.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_05: Blah blah blah.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_05: So Dracula in 1941.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's just a young lippersnapper back then.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_05: Indeed.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_05: Bella Legosi Legosi essentially gave Hollywood its forced derivative image of Dracula at Tuxedo, a cape, hypnotic stare, her Hungarian accent, and a crisp a cross aristocratic charm.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_05: Universal's film was a m I'm sorry, that threw me off because I don't hear the word universal anymore, so it's like, what the fuck's the universal?
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, sorry, I'll cut that out.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Universal Film was a major success and helped launch the studio's greatest monster cycle.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula became less of a corpse from European folklore and more like the elegant gentleman who had happened to drink blood.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just a elegant gentleman that happens to drink blood.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_05: It's like James Bond, but like Dracula.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_04: That drinks blood.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_04: I'll take some blood.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_04: Chicken, not stuff.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_04: Chicken, not stuck.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_04: That's how we looked at humans too.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, chicken, that's true.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_05: Then we shake a maybe Dracula can shake people and tell them about Phantom Drink Bodies.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_05: That's okay.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_05: He's allowed to.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: As long as he leaves them alive to move.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, yeah, you gotta do that, you know.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_05: The son of Dracula in 1943, which is interesting, we'll get to that later on as we have a little uh snippet on that too.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um Hollywood started expanding on the vampire beyond Dracula himself.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_05: Lon Chaney's Jr., I'm sorry, Lon Chaney Jr.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: plays Count Alcart?
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_05: Allucard.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_05: Allucard?
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, Dracula spelled backwards original.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: The vampire becomes something that can infiltrate ordinary American societies rather than simply waiting in trans in a Transylvanian castle.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_05: So why just American society?
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_05: He doesn't like any other people, just want to eat the American society.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_04: I I find it really kind of lazy writing.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: They just turn Dracula around and that's his name.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe uh he knew he was gonna be in the American movies, so therefore kind of hit the American society.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely it's scarier to the Americans watching the movie because now he could be anyone in the theater, whereas before Dracula is over at Transylvania, and you know, well, that's a long way away because nobody knows where Transylvania is.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
• 33:20
  unknown: Yeah.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_05: So does that does that make Hollywood uh the kind of pinnacle of fear?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_05: Like like before Dracula would have been just a folklore story.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_05: Before Hollywood.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_05: So now that he's all over the world.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_05: If it was.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_04: And I I don't think yeah, but I don't think Dracula we would be sitting here talking about Dracula fictional or the actual Dracula.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: If it wasn't for the Bellalocko C 1931 movie that kicked it all off.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_04: Fair enough.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't it would be out there, Brahm Stoker's uh book would be out there, but I don't think it would have caught on to become a phenom where we're still talking about it, be like, oh yeah, well, there was this book, and and did you know it was based on this guy type thing that's Hollywood.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_05: So the house of Dracula in 1945.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_05: Now Hollywood basically says we have a monster, when can we have all of them?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_05: Hollywood Frank uh I'm sorry, Dracula, Frankenstein's monster and the wolf man collide.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_05: This helps establish an idea that Hollywood's monsters could exist in the same supernatural universe, a concept that would keep coming back for decades later.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_04: And I agree with that because in my mind, a world that has Dracula, a world that has Frankenstein's monster, and the Wolfman and the creature from Black Lagoon, that all seems like it could tie together and they don't live that far from each other.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, when we get into the MCU uh you know, you know, the Marvel universe.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes I just want Spider-Man just to be the only one.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_04: Or Superman in the DC.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_04: Just be the only superhero.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes they I think they write too much to like, oh, how many different superheroes can we throw into this story instead of staying with the story and the actual character that they are uh writing about?
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_04: That's just my personal.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_06: That's just my personal opinion.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um so in 1958, I think this is where I kind of remember a little bit better.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Christopher Lee completely changed the character again.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_05: Hammers Dracula was younger, physical, violent, and overtly sexual.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_05: The black and white gothic monster became a technicolor predator with blood and sexuality pushed much closer to the foreground.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_05: So I think I think that's where I think Dracula kind of became a bit more uh sensual to audiences.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because you always wonder because I at some point I agree with you, at some point vampires became desirable, sexual, you know, they they they can uh you know attract both sides, whatever whatever you know, just by the their I think that works both ways.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, a girl with findings number one.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_05: So all right, well, there you go.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_05: So from his uh mouth to your ears.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_05: Um so in 1960, the brides of Dracula.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_05: So we're brides.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_04: This is following following the same thing they did with like uh Frankenstein.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_04: Frankenstein.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_04: The bride of Frankenstein.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_05: Well, you know, you gotta The return of the bride of Frankenstein.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_05: So it is it is an interesting evolution.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_05: Dracula himself isn't even in it.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_05: The hammer demonstrates that a vampire mythology could survive without its most famous vampire.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_05: Van Helsing fights a new vampire treat threat, showing that Dracula had become more of a mythology than simply one character.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_05: Um another one, Salem's Lot in 1979.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_05: Stephen King's vampire story brought the creature into modern American suburbia.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_05: Uh suddenly the vampire wasn't necessarily necessarily ancient European and I'm sorry, an ancient European astrocrat.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_05: He could s he could arrive in an ordinary town and turn your neighborhoods, your family and your friends into monsters.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_04: Is that the one with the silver bullet, the kid in the wheelchair?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh maybe.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's been a while since I've seen that movie.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_05: But the next one up is one I probably would actually remember straight up.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_04: That is an ox okay, Lost Boys, excellent movie.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_04: If you've never seen it, you're missing out.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_04: You have to watch it, if nothing else, for the guy over the place.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_05: So, absolutely.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_05: The vampire becomes young, rebellious, and cool.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_05: Instead of Castle, you've got California.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_05: Instead of AstroCrack clothing, you've got leather jackets and motorcycles.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_05: Vampirism becomes a lifestyle, and the vampire starts becoming something teenagers might actually want to be.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_05: So, okay, and what are you gonna say anyway?
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_04: I was just saying that it's a great movie, you need to watch it, and if or nothing else because the guy playing sexophone.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, with a saxophone.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_04: You don't remember the scene with the sex phone?
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_05: It's been a really long time.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna say anymore.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna watch it.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta watch it.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_04: If you guys are like wondering what I'm talking about, the saxophone, you'll know it when you get there.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: Was it I can't remember in The Lost Boys, did they hint on Monster Mash when the kids were in the uh comic book store?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_04: It's possible.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_04: I don't remember.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_05: I need I need to look in a almost from memory a lot of the comics showing were monster-based.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's probably.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_05: The Melus Boys to me reminds me of what Stranger Things was is.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, you know what I mean.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_05: Although Stranger Things is more about like D D kind of stuff.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, I mean in terms of the kids talking amongst themselves.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_05: For this, it was all about comics and monsters and shit like that.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_04: The kids were the main focus and not the kids going to an adult to solve the problems.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_05: I'm with you.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then stuff, things got a little bit more um crazy dark, or I'd say a bit more seductive in a way.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_05: Seductive.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_05: Because in the romance novelish, would you say?
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_05: Or interview with the vampire.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_04: That's a very romanticized thing.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_05: I I remember it's been interview with Avampur, that's what they sent it away.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_05: And that is actually a um what do you call those things?
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um Mandela effect.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, the Mandela effect on the way it's being said.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_04: So sex is it's sex in the city or sex in Sex and the City.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_04: And the city, yeah.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's sex in the city.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_05: Um so interview with a vampire.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: In this one, the vampire.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_04: That one had pretty pretty vampires.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: It was a pre a prerequisite you had to be a pretty vampire to be in that movie.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_05: So in this one, the vampire is torn inwards.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: Lewis isn't simply asking how do I kill humans?
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_05: He's asking, what does it mean to be a monster?
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_05: And mortality, loneliness, morale, and identity becomes more important than traditional vampire hunting.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_05: But from Interview with a Vampires, things are getting a little bit more adventurous.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_05: Such as Buffy and the Vampire Slayer.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_04: I have to admit, I never saw an episode.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I freaking love it.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_05: I love that TV show.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, absolutely.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_05: Buffy took vampires into television and made them part of an enormous supernatural ecosystem.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_05: Vampires could be villains, villains, uh, recurring characters, romantic interests, or even uh re-eluctant.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: Reluctant allies.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_05: The show also helped normalize the idea that vampires could have personalities beyond evil living things.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_06: Hmm.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_05: Even Marvel had their I mean, they've had it in for a long time before this movie came out, but in 1998, Blade hit the big screens.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_05: That was fun.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my god, I liked all three of those.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I never I can't remember the third one, but the fourth one.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_05: So in Blade, the vampire becomes the action mover movie creature.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_05: Vampires aren't just gothic monsters anymore, they are organized hidden societies with technologies, politics, bloodlines, and their own hierarchy.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_05: Blade himself also complicates the mythology by being half human and half vampire.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_04: That was a great move.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_04: That was a great movie.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_04: And I liked when they uh brought Blade in with the last uh Deadpool movie too.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_05: Well they wait was he in the Yeah, he was in the movie.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_04: And it was Wesley Snipes, yeah.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's right.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_05: That's right.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_05: It's not exactly it's not Marvel so much as it is just Deadpool's Marvel.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_05: He's Marvel, but he's slightly He's like DK Marvel.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_05: He's offset from Marvel.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, we just can't get he won't be allowed in Marvel.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_05: He doesn't even have him all the women.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, probably all the guys do to come think of it, but you know, whatever.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_05: I just like Deadpool.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_05: He's my favorite too, but he's my favorite.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_05: You know.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_05: Spider-Man and Deadpool probably.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_05: I like Spider-Man too.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_04: You don't think Spider-Man and Deadpool would ever have a movie together?
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: You don't think Deadpool shows up in uh what is the next uh the end of days movie that's about to come out?
• 42:47
  unknown: End of days.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_04: They pulled like every single Marvel um that's Doomsday.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_04: That's the end of days, Doomsday.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's all apocalyptic.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_04: My god, what's wrong with you?
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I haven't watched that many of the previews.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_05: So okay, so after after 2000s, things get a little bit different when it comes to vampires.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um I guess there's a romantic element.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm the snake.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_05: I mean you had someone like Blade who was like, you know, a hero.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_05: So what if you transformed a hero into a love interest?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_05: Or another pupil at your school?
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sure the hero needs to follow the colour.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean we had we had Twilight in in 2008.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_05: This takes the transformation almost in a completely different and opposite direction.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_05: Vampires become romantic, supernatural beings, and immortality becomes rather desira rather desirable than horrifying.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_05: The vampire isn't necessarily something you run in.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_05: The vampire isn't necessarily something you run from.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_05: He can be the mysterious Person you fall in love with.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_04: I did not watch any of the twilight.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_05: The book was good.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_05: No book was fucking weird as shit.
• 44:10
  unknown: No.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's completely different from the movie.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_04: Too many, too much, too much uh of the little sparkly uh No, I get that.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_05: I get that.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_05: But uh if I actually let you should read the book.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_05: Because it like the guy Edward or whatever is more of a stalker than uh Which one was the vampire?
• 44:28
  unknown: Edward, I think.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_04: Which one was the werewolf?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_05: I just remember Edward.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, okay.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_04: I definitely was not team Edward.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_05: I remember my niece big on that thing.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_05: I can't remember what side she was on, though.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_05: I think she was on the side of the other guy.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_05: Too much glitter for me.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_05: After that, we had a funer version of Vampires.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_05: True Blood from 2008 to 2014.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_04: That was the HBO show.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was good though.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_04: You know, to be honest with you, I haven't seen it, but I wish I had.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_04: So I should go back and watch it.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_05: It was good.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_05: True Blood.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_05: True Blood asks, what would happen if vampires came out with a coffin?
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_04: Depends if it's daylight or dark.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_04: Because then it would really make like a huge difference.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_05: Edward.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_05: My um uh lovely assistant.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_05: Jacob.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_05: Um that wasn't Team Jacob either.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_05: So Bella wanted Edward.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_05: Jacob love Bella.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_05: Well, you know, that's how it goes, isn't it?
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, it's isn't it for being for being fact-checked?
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_04: In real time.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_05: We we do have a little guest um hanging out with us.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_05: So um so Trueblood asks, what happens if vampires come out of the coffin?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_05: Vampires become a major a minority group with a society, bringing questions on identity, prejudice, sexuality, uh politics, and interrogation into the vampire story.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_05: Now I did like True Blood.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_05: I did like it, it is a really good story.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_04: I said the couple of scenes I saw uh made me interested by just at that point when it was out, it just I just didn't have time for it.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_05: Um The Vampire Diars 2009-2017.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_05: Now I didn't really I don't remember this.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_05: I I know it's out there.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_04: I remember hearing about it, but I tell you, this is definitely not one I watch because it sounds too much like 90210 meets the glitter of uh Twilight.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_05: Well that's what kind of happens, isn't it?
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_05: It becomes more general rather than like.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_04: And we've neither one of us seen this so we're probably generalizing in the wrong direction.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_05: That's true, that's true.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_05: So the vampire becomes a long-running TV uh The Vampire becomes a long run running TV series with characters rather than a simple monster.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_05: There's romance and family and friendships, supernatural politics and personal personal morality becomes the central um topic.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_05: Vampires can be heroes, they're villains, lovers or friends, or all for or or can't say that.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_05: Or for depending on the episode.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_04: So when you're reading that, what came to my mind was well besides that, and it was all in this weird Irish accent.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_04: No, but what what came to mind is I know there's a religious sect that believes that shows like these are demonic and satanic.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_04: And so this I could just hear the argument, and this is I'm not saying one way or the other on religion, I'm just saying that I could hear the argument that the vampire diaries, the way that you just read it, would be uh Satan's way of introducing Satan as not a bad guy.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_04: I'm hearing it.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but yeah.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: I actually I kind of I think I touched on that earlier on, but I I forgot to add to it and when it comes to Nosratu versus Dracula.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, because yes, Nosratu, he technically is that side that the chores.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_05: Because it's not just the vampire biting and blood.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_05: There's the demons, there's Belial, there's you know killing for for sport and blood, not just having like Dracula could drink half your blood and then fuck off.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, but then but then you but you become a vampire.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_05: But then you become a vampire, just there's a you become uh but you become a humanized vampire, not a demonized vampire.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's the thing.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_04: And then but you also become under his spell that you're in that.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_05: But then, you know, later on, then you have something like black, and then there's a there's a super superhuman human.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_05: I'm with you, you know, and then his child becomes a little more different.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_05: And then anyway.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_05: So, Ken, we're just gonna cut a hair real quick because we kept talking and talking and talking and it's gone a little over.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_05: So that I mean that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_05: So we're gonna go.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_05: This is part one.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_05: So more than likely, this one is a happy Halloween.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_05: Whether it's next to alright today.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_04: And then part two next time.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: And uh I've been Ken.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_04: And I've been Matt.
• 49:21
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• 49:28
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