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The Camden Ripper_s Flat Smelled Horrific _ Crime Scene Forensic Analysis - Antony Hardy · History Dark

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  Speaker 1: Ten bags of human body parts have been discovered in
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  Speaker 1: public bins in London.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very sick, disturbing thing for someone to do.
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  Speaker 1: Metropolitan police have launched a murder inquiry and believe there's
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  Speaker 1: a serial killer.
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  Speaker 3: On the loose.
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  Speaker 4: Dismembering people is not a clean business.
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  Speaker 1: Forensics must act fast to find evidence of the killer
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  Speaker 1: at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: Every killer leaves a trace. It's up to us to
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  Speaker 2: find that trace.
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  Speaker 1: MUSIC While searching for food in waste bins, a homeless
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  Speaker 1: man has discovered butchered body parts concealed in bin liners.
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  Speaker 1: The bin and the surrounding area are quickly cordoned off
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  Speaker 1: as a crime scene. Sarah Thirkle has over 25 years'
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  Speaker 1: experience in crime scene investigation and is one of the
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  Speaker 1: UK's leading forensic trainers.
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  Speaker 2: Searching a public bin outside a block of flats is
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  Speaker 2: a forensic nightmare. This is probably one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: forensically preserved crime scenes that you can have. Because of
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  Speaker 2: the location of the bins, the fact that they're outside,
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  Speaker 2: everyone's got access to them and people are dumping rubbish
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  Speaker 2: in them.
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  Speaker 1: London homicide detective Brian Hook was one of the first
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  Speaker 1: on the scene.
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  Speaker 4: When a homicide happens, that golden hour is all important.
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  Speaker 4: If it goes wrong in that hour, it stays wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Inside the bin bags... police discover a pair of human
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  Speaker 1: calf muscles and a female torso. CSIs meticulously search the
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  Speaker 1: bin and its contents for any clues as to what
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  Speaker 1: has happened.
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  Speaker 4: Well, every single one of those bags has to be
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  Speaker 4: opened and every single content has to be assessed.
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  Speaker 2: As a crime scene coordinator, I'd be expected by an
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  Speaker 2: SIO to put forward hypotheses and decisions about future scenes
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  Speaker 2: that we might encounter. My understanding for this case is
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  Speaker 2: that the bins at the dump site, they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to be the main crime scene. The main crime scene
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  Speaker 2: is either going to be the area where the body's
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  Speaker 2: been cut up, but also potentially where the bodies have
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  Speaker 2: been murdered. Being on the list of items that I
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  Speaker 2: would put on my forensic strategy are things that potentially
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  Speaker 2: we would be looking for. Sores, knives, all sorts of equipment,
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  Speaker 2: along with black bin bags.
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  Speaker 1: Police make inquiries with the residents of the flats who
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  Speaker 1: use the communal bins.
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  Speaker 4: Every crime scene's a challenge. The challenge here, there are
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  Speaker 4: hundreds and hundreds of flats. One of those flats could
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  Speaker 4: be our crime scene. Remember, it's vital that at the
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  Speaker 4: earliest opportunity we find where our victim was murdered and
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  Speaker 4: where the dismemberment took place because there'll be a wealth
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  Speaker 4: of forensic evidence there.
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  Speaker 1: Day two, with no active leads to the killer and
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  Speaker 1: potentially more than one victim, the case is declared a
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  Speaker 1: Category A murder investigation.
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  Speaker 4: There is a sudden increase of activity. The curve goes
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  Speaker 4: steeply up. All sorts of things are going on. We've
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  Speaker 4: got specialist search teams on the way. The inquiry team
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  Speaker 4: is making its way into homicide headquarters. The specific officers
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  Speaker 4: for house to house, CCTV, seized at the earliest opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Within hours, the search team make another horrific discovery, less
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  Speaker 1: than 250 metres away from the first deposition site.
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  Speaker 4: It was in this area here, in Plender Street, that
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  Speaker 4: the specialist search officers actually found another bin liner that
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  Speaker 4: it also contained body parts.
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  Speaker 2: Finding who these victims were is of paramount importance. Your
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  Speaker 2: DNA profile will take 24 hours to 36 hours minimum.
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  Speaker 1: The body parts are sent away for DNA analysis, and
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  Speaker 1: the pathologist confirms the detectives' suspicions.
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  Speaker 4: At this point, it was actually realized that we had
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  Speaker 4: more than one victim.
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  Speaker 1: They have the torso of one female and the limbs
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  Speaker 1: from another. The Metropolitan Police have a serial killer.
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  Speaker 4: On the loose. The whole enormity of what had actually
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  Speaker 4: been found suddenly hits you. This is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a momentous investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Fearing the killer may strike again, the detectives need to
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  Speaker 1: act fast.
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  Speaker 5: Communal bins are everywhere around here.
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  Speaker 1: Met Commander Andy Baker is brought in to oversee the
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  Speaker 1: investigation and dozens more officers are called in to expedite
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  Speaker 1: the house-to-house inquiries.
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  Speaker 5: The house-to-house was extensive. On the face of it, a
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  Speaker 5: fairly mundane job, knocking on doors, knowing what we know, though,
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  Speaker 5: it's quite scary to think that there's body parts found
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  Speaker 5: less than 20 yards away from where you live. And
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  Speaker 5: at the same time, you have to find out who
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  Speaker 5: lives there, making sure that you're checking that with what
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  Speaker 5: records show so they don't leave a person off who
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  Speaker 5: could be a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Many of the residents suggest a man from the estate
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  Speaker 1: the detectives should speak to.
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  Speaker 4: It's obvious from the house-to-house inquiries that a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the neighbours and people that live on the estate have
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  Speaker 4: misgivings about one of the residents and his attitudes and
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  Speaker 4: sometimes his behaviour.
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  Speaker 1: The police now have a person of interest on their
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  Speaker 1: radar and the digital forensic team has an update regarding
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  Speaker 1: the CCTV.
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  Speaker 4: They had an image of a man in a long
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  Speaker 4: dark coat wearing a baseball cap with a New York
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  Speaker 4: Yankees logo on it, opening the bin in Plender Street
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  Speaker 4: where body parts had been found and actually depositing a
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  Speaker 4: bin liner.
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  Speaker 2: Was someone from the local flats had taken the bin
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  Speaker 2: bags out from his flat and dumped them in the
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  Speaker 2: bins outside.
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  Speaker 1: The man is identified as local resident Anthony Hardy, the
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  Speaker 1: person brought to the officer's attention during the house-to-house inquiries.
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  Speaker 4: We now have somebody that we can look at far,
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  Speaker 4: far closer.
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  Speaker 1: Police pinpoint Hardy's flat on the estate. He lives in
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  Speaker 1: between both deposition sites.
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  Speaker 4: This is the back of a block where.
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  Speaker 5: Hardie's flat is, which gives him easy access to these bins.
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  Speaker 5: When somebody becomes a person of interest and is edging
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  Speaker 5: towards being a suspect, the intelligence unit on the homicide
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  Speaker 5: team would do full background on them.
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  Speaker 1: Records reveal that just 11 months ago, police were called
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  Speaker 1: to Anthony Hardie's flat after a neighbour had accused him
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  Speaker 1: of criminal damage. While searching Hardie's flat, officers made a
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  Speaker 1: disturbing discovery.
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  Speaker 4: There is a bed up against one wall, and lying
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  Speaker 4: on the bed is the dead, naked body of a female.
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  Speaker 1: The woman was identified as 38-year-old Sally Rose White. Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Hardy was arrested on suspicion of murder.
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  Speaker 4: After the post-mortem, the Home Office pathologist gives a cause
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  Speaker 4: of death of natural causes. The victim had underlying health
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  Speaker 4: problems and health issues, one of which was heart problems.
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  Speaker 5: Once pathology says natural causes, it virtually closes down that
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  Speaker 5: as a murder investigation. That was brought to our attention
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  Speaker 5: and so was the Occupy.
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  Speaker 1: The police believe that this is more than a coincidence
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  Speaker 1: and they must urgently apprehend Hardy.
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  Speaker 4: Team is assembled, they go to the premises and the
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  Speaker 4: door is actually open, it's not locked.
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  Speaker 5: It had that mortuary smell. It's something that once you've experienced,
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  Speaker 5: you always recognise.
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  Speaker 1: Human body parts from two unknown victims have been discovered
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  Speaker 1: in public bins on a North London housing estate. Police
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  Speaker 1: have identified a suspect, 51-year-old Anthony Hardy. A specialist team
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  Speaker 1: has gathered out of sight of Hardy's ground floor flat.
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  Speaker 1: They are ready to force entry and arrest him on
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  Speaker 1: suspicion of two murders.
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  Speaker 4: What we have is a man that not 11 months
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  Speaker 4: previously had a dead body in the flat, not 150
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  Speaker 4: yards away from this scene where we found dismembered body parts.
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  Speaker 1: For evidential purposes, an officer records the events.
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  Speaker 4: They open the door and they're greeted with a corridor.
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  Speaker 4: There are drawings and paintings on the floor and on
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  Speaker 4: the hallway walls. They can only be described as bizarre.
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  Speaker 4: And it's fairly obvious at this point, Mr Hardy is
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  Speaker 4: not there, but there is a distinctive odour within the premises.
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  Speaker 4: As you go right into the sitting room, You're greeted
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  Speaker 4: with the dining table. By the dining room table, there
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  Speaker 4: are actually three televisions connected to three VHS video recorders.
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  Speaker 4: And on the table are multitudes of VHS cassettes.
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  Speaker 5: There were stacks and stacks and stacks of sadomasochistic, violent,
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  Speaker 5: hardcore porn. I remember seeing a red devil's mask on
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  Speaker 5: the wall opposite. Gave you that kind of shudder when
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  Speaker 5: you looked at it.
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  Speaker 1: There is a distinctive smell coming from the bedroom.
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  Speaker 4: The door to the bedroom is opened. Not only does
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  Speaker 4: the odour get stronger... but on the floor next to
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  Speaker 4: the bed is an object covered by a black local
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  Speaker 4: authority bin liner. And lying on top is a hacksaw
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  Speaker 4: and a number of knives laid neatly, almost halter-like. Unfortunately
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  Speaker 4: underneath there, what we discover is the torso of a female.
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  Speaker 1: The police now have two torsos, but there is still
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  Speaker 1: no sign of their prime suspect.
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  Speaker 4: Hardy's not there. Where are we most likely to find him?
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  Speaker 4: We are now dealing with a manhunt.
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  Speaker 1: The flat is secured as a crime scene and harvesting
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  Speaker 1: forensic evidence becomes the priority.
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  Speaker 2: My understanding is that it was a very disturbing scene
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  Speaker 2: within there. This is where there would be discussion with
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  Speaker 2: the crime scene coordinator and the SAO as to what
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  Speaker 2: actually they want us to do at the scene. What's
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  Speaker 2: the forensic strategy? You could spend weeks and weeks proving
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  Speaker 2: everything at a vast cost when actually only examining a
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  Speaker 2: few items will prove beyond reasonable doubt that this is
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  Speaker 2: your offender and this is where he's committed the crimes.
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  Speaker 2: My priorities would be identification of the females. identification of
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  Speaker 2: the tools and the bin bags.
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  Speaker 1: Following the forensic strategy, the torso is taken for a
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  Speaker 1: post-mortem examination and the tools are sent for analysis.
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  Speaker 2: To prove if a weapon has been used, scientists need
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  Speaker 2: to find trace evidence of the victim and the suspect.
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  Speaker 2: Examining the hacksaw blade, you'd be looking for evidence of
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  Speaker 2: DNA on the teeth of the hacksaw, bone or any
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  Speaker 2: fragments of blood or tissue to be able to tie
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  Speaker 2: this hacksaw to any of the victims in the dismemberment.
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  Speaker 2: To dismember a body with a hacksaw needs a lot
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  Speaker 2: of force, so you would be looking on the frame
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  Speaker 2: of the hacksaw for any fingerprint evidence where the hacksaw's
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  Speaker 2: been pushed down. Any fingerprints that are recovered from the
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  Speaker 2: hacksaw frame would be submitted to the National Fingerprint Database
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  Speaker 2: to see if there's any matches on any known offenders.
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  Speaker 1: The swab samples are sent to the lab to see
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  Speaker 1: if they match a profile on the National DNA Database.
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  Speaker 1: The post-mortem report confirms that the torso found in Hardy's
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  Speaker 1: bedroom matches to some of the limbs recovered from the
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  Speaker 1: first two crime scenes. The pathologist has also made a
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  Speaker 1: discovery on the torso, what could provide a breakthrough in
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  Speaker 1: confirming the victim's identity. He has extracted cosmetic implants.
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  Speaker 4: The clinic that did the procedure was actually in Germany.
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  Speaker 4: And we know that because the clinic actually, on the implants,
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  Speaker 4: had a unique reference number for each and every implant
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  Speaker 4: that they made and inserted. So they were able to
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  Speaker 4: actually give us the patient's details.
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  Speaker 1: The serial numbers identify 29-year-old Elizabeth Falad.
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  Speaker 4: She was a lady who had fallen upon hard times,
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  Speaker 4: had drifted into drugs and alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: Further investigation reveals that Elizabeth worked as a high-class escort.
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  Speaker 5: That she had worked in Chelsea... in those kind of areas, Mayfair.
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  Speaker 5: But sadly, her dependency on drugs had really kind of
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  Speaker 5: lowered how she earned her living.
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  Speaker 4: Now that you have a victim, you now have a
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  Speaker 4: direction you can go in. You can look at their lifestyle,
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  Speaker 4: where she frequents. You can now talk to people that
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  Speaker 4: she knows, that know her.
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  Speaker 1: Elizabeth's vulnerabilities led her to London's red-light district, King's Cross.
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  Speaker 4: I suppose in the old days at King's Cross, I'd
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  Speaker 4: have been stopped by now for circling, wouldn't I? This
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  Speaker 4: is a totally and utterly different neighbourhood now to what
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  Speaker 4: it was in those days in 2002. It had a reputation,
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  Speaker 4: quite rightly, for vice.
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  Speaker 5: For prostitution. Unfortunately, sex workers are vulnerable because of the
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  Speaker 5: life they lead. And it's really crucial to get that victimology.
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  Speaker 5: The history of that victim could inform you of how
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  Speaker 5: they came to sadly meet their death.
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  Speaker 3: There's variation in the literature looking at why serial offenders
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  Speaker 3: commit murders. One possible explanation is that there is a
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  Speaker 3: sexual nature Sex workers are an easy target for Anthony Hardy.
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  Speaker 3: He lived in an area where lots of them work,
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  Speaker 3: so he can engage with them without arousing suspicion from others.
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  Speaker 1: Whilst the manhunt for Hardy continues, the results from the
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  Speaker 1: hacksaw tests are in. The fingerprints found on the frame
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  Speaker 1: match back to Anthony Hardy, and there's a mixed DNA
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  Speaker 1: profile found on the blade. Part of the profile matches
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  Speaker 1: back to Elizabeth Vallad and the other matches to the
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  Speaker 1: torso found at the first bin site. This profile is
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  Speaker 1: run through the National DNA database and there is a match.
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  Speaker 5: We identified Bridget McClelland. She was a mother from central England. Again,
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  Speaker 5: sex worker history. Somebody has to be brought to book
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  Speaker 5: for it. And you've been handed a very important thing,
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  Speaker 5: which is to speak for them. You're working for them,
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  Speaker 5: you're working for their family. And it's your job, it's
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  Speaker 5: the team's job.
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  Speaker 4: You are now their voice. It's a huge responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: Detectives have confirmed the identity and backgrounds of both victims.
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  Speaker 4: We still have to prove that it was Hardy that
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  Speaker 4: has done this terrible deed to both of them. And
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  Speaker 4: what we're looking for now is where those paths crossed
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  Speaker 4: with Hardy.
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  Speaker 1: The knowledge of the victims and their circumstances assist the
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  Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrists who continue to build a profile of Anthony Hardy.
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  Speaker 3: There appeared to be a stark contrast to his earlier
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  Speaker 3: stage of his life compared to his current stage. Before,
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  Speaker 3: he appeared to be living a very conventional life. He
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  Speaker 3: was a graduate. He had a stable full-time job. He
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  Speaker 3: had a marriage. When the whole family moved to Australia
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  Speaker 3: in the 1980s, his wife first started reporting changes in
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  Speaker 3: his behaviour. Major life events, such as moving to another location,
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  Speaker 3: may be precursors or triggers for reacting in different ways
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  Speaker 3: and for behaving in different ways.
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  Speaker 4: He attacked his wife with a bottle of water that
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  Speaker 4: was frozen, so effectively was a solid lump. and then
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  Speaker 4: dragged her into the bathroom and tried to drown her.
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  Speaker 4: The frozen bottle of water is an indication of the
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  Speaker 4: manipulative cunningness that is emerging within Mr Hardy, because once
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  Speaker 4: that is done, obviously there would perhaps be a search
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  Speaker 4: for a murder weapon, and what you would only have
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  Speaker 4: is a bottle of water or even an empty plastic bottle.
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  Speaker 1: Hardy returned to the UK following the end of his
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  Speaker 1: marriage and his life continued to spiral out of control.
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  Speaker 3: There's a possibility that Anthony Hardy exhibited a sensitivity towards
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  Speaker 3: women and negative emotionality towards women, particularly after the breakup
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  Speaker 3: of the marriage. So it was at this stage that
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  Speaker 3: there appeared to be a deterioration in his mental health.
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  Speaker 3: He was no longer employed. He was moving from hostel
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  Speaker 3: to hostel. He became an alcoholic.
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  Speaker 1: Hardy's history reveals a continuum of violence and indicates the
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  Speaker 1: high level of danger he poses.
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  Speaker 3: In 1981, he was involved in serious assault with the
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  Speaker 3: attempted murder of his wife. In 1982, the kidnap of
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  Speaker 3: his wife. In the late 1990s, violent and intimidating behaviour
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  Speaker 3: towards others. In 1998, indecent assault and sexual assault.
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  Speaker 4: He was arrested and suspected for three rapes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: three sets.
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  Speaker 2: Women.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't end up at court for a variety of reasons.
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  Speaker 4: So there are precursors there.
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  Speaker 1: Hardy's timeline of violence takes investigators up to the discovery
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  Speaker 1: of Sally Rose White's body in his flat in January 2002.
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  Speaker 4: What we now have is a violent man that not
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  Speaker 4: 11 months previously had a dead body in the flat
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  Speaker 4: not 150 yards away from this scene where we found
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  Speaker 4: dismembered body parts.
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  Speaker 3: If sexual offenders are not apprehended and they continue to
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  Speaker 3: carry out their crimes they may increase their appetite for
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  Speaker 3: certain facets and aspects of those crimes. It appears from
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  Speaker 3: the evidence that Anthony Hardy felt internally intrinsically compelled to
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  Speaker 3: behave in these ways and wasn't able to stop himself
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  Speaker 3: from doing so.
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  Speaker 1: The hunt for Hardy intensifies whilst the forensic team continue
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  Speaker 1: to look for potential evidence in the flat. They discover
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  Speaker 1: a roll of black bin liners located on Hardy's desk.
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  Speaker 1: These are sent to the lab for tests.
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  Speaker 2: Bin bags are really interesting because you can link bin
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  Speaker 2: bags to rolls of bin bags.
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  Speaker 1: Forensics may be able to prove that the bags found
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  Speaker 1: at the flat are from the same roll as the
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  Speaker 1: bags containing the women's body parts, which would further implicate Hardy.
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  Speaker 2: So the bin bags that were used to wrap the
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  Speaker 2: body parts in have unique markings on them, striation marks
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  Speaker 2: and manufacturing marks. And also they have marks where they're
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  Speaker 2: being pulled off a roll. If you compare bin bags
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  Speaker 2: by looking at the individual perforations and seeing what matches
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  Speaker 2: under a microscope, you can determine whether they've come from
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  Speaker 2: the same roll. So the bin bags that were used
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  Speaker 2: to wrap the body parts in come from the same roll.
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  Speaker 4: You make those connections from a forensic scientific perspective, then
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  Speaker 4: that is fact that you can present to the jury.
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  Speaker 1: Back at Scotland Yard, the digital forensic team are also
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  Speaker 1: making progress.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things that's looked at is what we
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  Speaker 4: call passive data. We all carry around with us loyalty
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  Speaker 4: cards that relate to different shops. The nice thing about
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  Speaker 4: those from an investigative perspective is it literally gives a
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  Speaker 4: time and a date of what is actually bought.
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  Speaker 1: The digital specialists extract the data from the nectar card
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  Speaker 1: found inside Hardy's flat, and there are loyalty points earned
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  Speaker 1: from purchase of bin liners, made two weeks before the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: body parts were discovered. To corroborate this evidence, they analyse
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  Speaker 1: the supermarket CCTV.
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  Speaker 5: We found where the bin bags had been bought. Who
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  Speaker 5: was buying them?
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  Speaker 4: Hardy.
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  Speaker 5: Great evidence.
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  Speaker 4: Crucial that we get him buying those bin liners. Then
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: the bin liners in his hand being put into the
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  Speaker 4: bin in Plender Street, all these different avenues, all these
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  Speaker 4: strands of investigation are now starting to come together.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: To further strengthen the case against Hardy, the forensic team
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: must confirm their suspicions that the murders and the dismemberments
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: occurred in his flat.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: You cannot cut a human body up without getting blood everywhere.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: On that first walkthrough, there was no blood apparent, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: we decided that we would lean on our forensic experts
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: and say, what can we do? They came up with
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: the state-of-the-art technology of Luminar.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Police in London are hunting a serial killer. Their prime suspect,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Anthony Hardy, has gone to ground. and they fear he
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: may strike again. Forensics have control of his flat and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: continue to harvest evidence that links Hardy to the murders.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: The bin bags containing the body parts have been forensically
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: matched to a roll found in Hardy's bedroom, and data
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: extracted from his loyalty card combined with CCTV prove that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: he purchased them. Trace evidence of Hardy was found on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a hacksaw, as well as the DNA from the two victims,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Fallad and Bridget McLennan. Two days into the manhunt
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: for Anthony Hardy and there have been no sightings.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: We knew we were looking for a serial killer. We
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: had descriptions of Anthony Hardy. He was a big man,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: well over six foot. Grey hair, beard, glasses, wore a
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: long black leather coat. Was well known in the King's
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Cross area cafes.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: The urgency to apprehend Hardy drives detectives to utilise the media.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: One of the largest police investigations was launched as more
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: body parts were found. Hardy was dubbed the Camden Ripper.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: A press named him as the Camden Ripper. So you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: into Jack the Ripper kind of status.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Some offenders strive to achieve the status of other well-known offenders,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: particularly serial murderers. It may be that they feel validated
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: when they achieve public status in terms of their crimes.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: For Hardy to have been compared to someone like Jack
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: the Ripper may have made him feel that he had
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: accomplished something or done a thorough job in terms of
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: his crime trajectory.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: By turning to the press, the investigation is now under
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: further scrutiny from the public. The forensics are working tirelessly
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to prove that the murders and dismemberments occurred inside Hardy's
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: North London flat.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: What we must realise in relation to Mr Hardy, the
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: very fact we had one of the victims actually in
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: the flat... sounds as if it's overwhelming evidence. In reality,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: it's not. He could have turned around and quite happily said,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with me. It was a third party.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not involved in any way, shape or form. We
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: still have to prove he was involved. Obviously, the victims
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: have been dismembered, but dismembering people is not a clean business.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: If the blood had been cleaned up, and we could
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: find that, we could present that as evidence.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: To determine if there had been a clean-up of blood,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the CSIs employ a breakthrough technique called luminol.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Luminol is used for examining areas for blood traces, so
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: if there's a suspicion that an area's been cleaned up,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: luminol will pick up traces of blood on surfaces.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Luminol works by the mixture of two chemicals, sodium hydroxide
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: and hydrogen peroxide, Those two chemicals react with the iron
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: that's in everybody's blood. When the luminol is sprayed onto
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: whatever surface you're looking to find out if it's had
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: blood on it, there is that chemiluminescence that happens.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Any traces of blood will react with the chemicals and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: glow in the dark in a bright blue colour.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Certainly one of the things in this case you're looking
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: to find areas that had been cleaned up Sometimes the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: perpetrators take the victim into the bathroom because that's a
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: place that can be easily cleaned down. So obviously the
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: bathroom was an area that was going to be inspected.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: By the chemiluminescent glow, luminol reveals there'd been an excessive
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: amount of blood in the bath and on the bathroom floor.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Also the door frame leading into the bathroom, the luminol
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: revealed that blood had been wiped out. from that location,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: which is perhaps an indication that something bearing blood or
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: bleeding had been dragged along the floor into that bathroom.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Despite a thorough clean-up, the luminol reveals that there was
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: once a vast amount of blood in both Hardy's bedroom
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and bathroom.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: And all this is evidence. The more evidence you have,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: the bigger that wall of evidence, those bricks you can
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: build up. which will go towards, hopefully, a conviction.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: The forensics begin to build up a picture of the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: horrific acts that have happened at the crime scene, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: they have documented further evidence that illustrates Hardy's sexually deviant interests.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Anthony Hardy had very much personalised his flat with some
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: quite standout details, such as vast amounts of pornographic material,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: There were images drawn on the walls. It's reported that
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: there are satanic markings and slithers of dried skin and
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: flesh on the wallpaper. He appears to have satanic masks
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and devil masks. It may be that he ties this
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: up with his compulsion for the sexual gratification.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of videos in there, pornographic material. From
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a forensic point of view, that's not really important for
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: me to find his fingerprints on those videos. because it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: his videos in his flats. It's good intelligence, but it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: not going to prove the murders. It's going to prove
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that the man's a bit weird, but it's not going
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: to prove that he's murdered and dismembered girls.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: But for forensic psychiatrists, this sheds more light under Hardy's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: mindset and actions.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: All the evidence indicates that Anthony Hardy is a sadistic killer.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Serious offenders of this kind fantasize and plan for the
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: crime itself and engage in various rituals throughout the commission
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: of the offence. It appears Anthony Hardy is a very
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: dangerous person and may pose a further risk to women
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: in future.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: And you begin to build up a picture, but then
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: you're thinking, it's a manhunt, is he going to harm
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: anyone else?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: With fears mounting that Hardy could strike again, the pressure
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: is on the detectives to track him down and arrest him.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Because we're now manhunting Mr Hardy... His lifestyle, what he does,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: where he goes, is imperative to know every single detail.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: And one of the things that became apparent is he
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: had some medical conditions.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Police have learned that Hardy is a diabetic and will
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: soon need to obtain more medication.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: It was obvious from what wasn't in the flat that
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: the medication would be running out. He would at some
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: point have to go to either a doctor or a hospital.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: to seek further medication in the medical professional hospitals were
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: all alerted to that fact. They were all supplied with
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: photographs of him and details and contact numbers in case
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: he came in.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: On New Year's Day, the mass circulation of Hardy's image
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: provides the police a much-needed lead.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: UCL Hospital contacted us and thought that Mr Hardy may
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: well have visited them to pick up some medication. Officers
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: go down there. look at the CCTV and sure enough, yes,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: it's Mr Hardy. He is shaved off his beard to
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: try and change his appearance. Well, it did no good
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: because the next day, the front page of every newspaper
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: in London had the unshaven image, Mr Hardy, on their
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: front page.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Detectives have their suspicions confirmed. Hardy is still in North London.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Because Hardy had been here for some time and knew
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: this area. It was his hunting ground. He's not going
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: to stray far from this. I mean, that was something
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: we were very, very aware of. You've still got one
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: eye out, one little beady eye always on the footways,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: always on the pedestrians, just in case you come across him,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: in case you see him.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: 24 hours later, another sighting. An off-duty officer and his
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: son see a man fitting the description of Anthony Hardy
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: at Great Ormond Street Hospital.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Uniformed officers arrive at the location. There is a fight
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and the police officers that actually go in to make
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: the arrest are actually injured.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: He attacked both officers. He fractured one officer's socket in
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: his chest. He stabbed another officer in the hand. They
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: held on to him.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: After a three-day manhunt, the police finally have their suspect
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in custody. They have only 24 hours to compile all
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the evidence and charge him with the murders of Elizabeth
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Vallad and Bridget MacLennan.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: As soon as he is taken to a police station,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: the clock under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act starts ticking.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: That's a green bin, Tony, with a black... exactly the
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: same as the one behind the pub. Do you know
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: that bit at all?
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: What is said and not said by Mr Hardy is
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: going to have an impact on what's happening within that
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: crime scene. And the decision-making process, the wrong decision, Mr
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Hardy gets to the end of the clock and he
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: walks out without being charged.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: You can get extensions on custody time limits with superintendents' authority,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: but the crime scene can change dramatically. It can speed
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: up quite a pace. if someone's in custody, because there
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: might be vital evidence that the SIO needs to be
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: able to charge an offender.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: He had a local representative under legal aid and he
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: no comment. No comment, no comment, no comment, no comment, everything.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Mr Hardy doesn't have to say anything to us. And
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: if he doesn't answer any questions, then all you can
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: present to the evidence is what you find.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: Because I'd suggest, I think I'm right in doing this,
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: that the diagnostics, the burning of the scent, would have
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: been to mask the smell.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: They don't want to be caught for murder. They want
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: to say, it wasn't me. It could be someone else.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: My door was open. Anyone could have gone into that flat.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Is that why he left his door unlocked? So he
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: could say, loads of people used to come to my flat.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: He did have visitors. So was that how he was...
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: building his defence. Was he working on an alibi? I
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: wasn't there. Everything had to be proved.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: As the custody time limit approaches, the police are about
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to unearth a compelling piece of evidence that could secure
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a murder charge.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: We're contacted by a friend of Mr Hardy, who has
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: possession of some photographs. These photographs have been taken by
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Mr Hardy and then actually given... into a photographic studio
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: to be developed. Mr Hardy then, when he was on
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the run, gave the receipt to this gentleman and asked
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: that they be recovered and held for him to recover.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: The digital forensic team retrieve the CCTV footage from the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: photo studio and corroborate that with a date and time
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: stamp on the receipt. It was Anthony Hardy. wearing the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: long leather coat and the New York Yankee hat he
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: was wearing on his arrest.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: What the photographs revealed were our two victims. They were
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: posed on the bed by the way the limbs were laying.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: The pathologist came to the opinion that the photographs were
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: taken when the women in them were dead.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It's a very sick, disturbing thing for someone to do,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to take photographs of dead girls.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Serial killers often keep mementos of some kind or take
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: photographs of their victims in various positions. Having the mementos
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: may serve as a reminder of what they have achieved. Normally,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the offender wants to leave the crime scene as soon
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: as possible, but in crimes such as Anthony Hardy's, he refuses.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't ready to stop or to finish those acts of crime,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: and he wanted to prolong the enjoyment that he received
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: from them.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: These photographs were able to link, firstly, the victims to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the flat via background objects. There was a mask involved.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: This mask had been placed on their face. And this, again,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: is tied back to the mask being found at the scene.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And there was also a baseball cap that the offender
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: was seen on the CCTV wearing.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: We then are in a position where we have to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: prove Mr Hardy took these photographs.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: With time running out, the negatives are sent to forensics
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: for analysis. Similarly to bin bags, film negatives can be
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: forensically examined for unique striation marks.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: When a film is placed into a camera, the cogs
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: within the camera will make unique markings on those perforations
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: within the film. If you can tie that back to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a specific camera... then you can do further forensic trace
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: evidence searches on that camera to then look for DNA
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: or fingerprints, which will then further link that camera to
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: an offender.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Police look through items seized from the flat, and one
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: exhibit may prove to be a crucial piece of evidence.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Scientifically, we can prove those negatives came from that camera.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: It's always... fantastic sense of euphoria when you gain that
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: little bit more evidence that eventually we began to get
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: a full.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Picture with confirmation the photographs were taken by hardy's camera
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the incriminating evidence is put to him and.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: I'd like you to talk me through these exhibits like
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: that for instance what's that do for you mr hardy.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: After discovering body parts in bins, an extensive forensic investigation ensued,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: leading to the arrest of suspected serial killer, Anthony Hardy.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Forensics have built up a wealth of evidence from three
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: crime scenes. Luminal revealed areas of blood that had been
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: cleaned up. Trace evidence of the suspect and victims was
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: found on the hacksaw. Bin bags in the flat matched
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the bin bags containing the body parts. CCTV has shown
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: some of Hardy's movements, And now they have Hardy's camera
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: and his photographs of the dead victims.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: These photographs were obviously paramount to the inquiry because they
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: were able to tie the girls to the scene, to
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the mask, to the bed, to the suspect.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: I'd like you to talk me through these exhibits that
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: I want to show you. Like that, for instance. What's
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: that do for you, Mr Hardy? No, I'm in.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Anthony Hardy is confronted by this new evidence, but still
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: refuses to answer questions.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: That, Mr Hardy, is your flat, isn't it?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The detectives now have another key piece of evidence against Hardy.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: His mementos provide yet another direct link to the crime scene,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and the police can charge him with the murders of
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Vallad and Bridget MacLennan. The team now has ten
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: months to prepare for trial.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: There is still huge amounts of work to do. We're
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: looking for similar fact evidence. Is there any evidence in
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: his past that he's done similar things before? We had
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: witnesses come forward other sex workers, and several of them
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: actually said that whilst engaging in sex, he had let
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: the whole of his weight bear down on their body
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and they would find it very difficult to breathe.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: We know that another female came forward and said that
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: she was attacked by Anthony Hardy and she said, I
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: couldn't speak because I could not breathe. It was like
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: he was pushing me right down into the bed. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: physically couldn't move and couldn't speak. He got a kick
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: knowing I couldn't breathe. The most kick he got was
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: at the point when I was literally not able to
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: breathe and I was crushed in such a position. I
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: think this indicates that Hardy genuinely received gratification from being
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: in control of other women, restraining them in this way
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and having the power over their ability to move.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: It's a type of positional asphyxia In other words, the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: diaphragm is not able to move and therefore you can't
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: draw oxygen into your lungs and effectively suffocate. So that
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: is a distinct possibility as a cause of death for
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: our two victims.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: This new intelligence brings Hardy's background back into question.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: We went through other sex workers that had been murdered
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: because they had to be put to him. We had
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: to get all the paperwork out of Sally Rose White's
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: investigation 18 months previously. The pathologist reviewed what he had
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: decided back then and came to the conclusion that Sally
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Rose White, in fact, it was asphyxiation by pressure. Bearing
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: in mind Sally Rose White was a very small woman,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: this 22 stone man leaned, just pressing into you, could
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: have been a cause of death.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: A consultant forensic psychiatrist who assessed Hardy in 2003 suggested
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: the following explanation. If the jury accept that the defendant
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: did in fact intend to kill or seriously harm his
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: three victims, then I believe the offending is linked to
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the defendant's sadistic personality, his intoxication with alcohol and his
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: rage at his sexual dysfunction.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Police were determined to never allow Anthony Hardy to walk
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: free again.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: We are working for our victims. If we get it
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: wrong now, it stays wrong. It will always be wrong
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: and it will still be wrong when we put the
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: person in the dock at the Central Criminal Court charged
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: with murder.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: He appeared at the Old Bailey. We went there with
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: all the witnesses lined up. the neighbour who he had
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: dispute with, his history, to show his kind of violent tendency.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: The masses of circumstantial and direct evidence against him, this
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: was a really strong case.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: As the prosecution prepares to try Hardy for the three murders,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: he finally talks.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: He pleaded guilty. Guilty, guilty, guilty.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Anthony Hardy admitted to being the Camden Ripper. He receives
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: three life sentences for the murder of Elizabeth Vallad, Bridget
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: McLennan and Sally Rose White and is later told he
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: would never be released.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Personally, I don't think we found all his victims.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: That's my opinion.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: No matter how good you are in an investigation, no
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: matter how thorough you are, sometimes a little bit of
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: luck comes your way. The witness that had reported finding
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: the body parts was a homeless guy. If he'd decided
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: that this was actually a lot of trouble and just
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: walked on, then eventually those dustbins would have been emptied
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and we would never, ever have ever found those victims.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Every single tragedy is not one event, is it? It's
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: a series of events. They're all generally unconnected, but they
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: come together and create what happens. And in this case,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: it's just tragedy, absolute tragedy. Come on, let's go.