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#396 - Gartner IAM Summit - Majority Rules · Identity at the Center

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  This is identity at the center. Welcome to Majority Rules.
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  Thank you very much for being here.
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  The few, the proud, the ones that are left over here at noon
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  on the last day of the conference.
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  My name is Jeff Stedman. I'm the host of the Identity
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  Center podcasts. I'm joined here by my Co host
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  Jim McDonald. That's me Co host.
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  I'm also a consultant during the day at.
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  RSM. That's right, and so am I.
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  And then the pickle in the middle.
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  Rebecca Arshamble, the Gartner analyst here.
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  That's just here to have fun. All right, so the first thing is
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  you want to get your phone device, whatever it is
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  connected, Go to that website, CCG dot buzz, enter that code,
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  enter a name. I see we've got some people who
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  have already joined. We'll give folks a few minutes
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  here to get set up while I explain the rules of the game.
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  You can use whatever name you like, just, you know, maybe make
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  it safe for work. That's totally fine.
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  We're going to have a game show here.
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  And so I can almost guarantee you will learn absolutely
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  nothing. The the only thing you're going
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  to learn is what the people in this room around you are
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  thinking around various topics that are coming up.
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  So we're going to have some fun for the next 25 minutes or so.
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  You're going to get questions that appear on the screen.
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  We're going to talk about it, You're going to have a couple
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  answers, and then you're going to vote as a group on your
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  device as to what is your favorite answer.
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  So I cannot stress this enough. This is not a test of knowledge.
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  This is a test of what is the pulse of the room feel like for
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  these answers that you're going to see.
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  So think it was more like favourites, preferences, things
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  like that. I would say there are no right
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  answers. There are always wrong answers
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  to every question out there, but there are no real right answers
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  to this. It's really more of a preference
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  thing. We will be keeping score.
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  So the faster that you select the majority answer, the more
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  points you get. And you'll see it on your
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  screen. You only get points if you
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  select the majority answer. And so we'll have a couple more
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  UPS. It'll make sense after you get
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  the first couple questions in. And so, oh, we've got sound
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  effects. That's sweet.
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  OK, so we've got eight people so far.
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  Let's see what we got 27. For those of you that just came
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  in, you're going to go to this website over here in the upper
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  right and put in that code to play.
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  CCG dot buzz enter the code, then give yourself a name.
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  No real names. Right, you can use it.
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  Can be. Creative here, but you know.
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  Safe for work? Safe for work?
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  This might end up as an episode of our podcast.
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  So you don't keep it, keep it, keep it clean.
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  As long as it's you're comfortable with me calling you
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  by that name, that's totally fine.
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  Mr. R, I'll, I'll keep your anatomy there.
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  OK, so we've got people joined in.
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  There is going to be a twist coming up shortly.
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  And I mentioned that we're keeping score.
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  So we actually are playing for prizes.
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  And I think given that we have, you know, maybe 30 people in
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  here, roughly 31, we actually have some donations from both
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  the company. Jim and I work for RSM as well
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  as Signal. So we're actually playing for
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  Amazon gift cards. It's sad.
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  And it's no small chump change either, right?
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  So the top three scores are going to be winners.
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  The top scorer at the end of this game is going to get a $500
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  Amazon gift card. So thanks to R7 Signal for that.
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  Second and third place get 250. And so we'll be tracking.
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  We'll have the score, we'll see it.
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  So now that you know, there's actually some some nice stuff on
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  the line here, right? And also, I'm sure Jim has
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  stickers for the podcast, So we'll have that.
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  All right, so let's go ahead and get started.
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  It's done an either or on the stickers.
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  That's a little on. All right, OK, so we're going to
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  see the questions here and let's get going.
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  So the first question is real easy.
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  What's your favorite? What's your favorite identity
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  podcast? Is it identity at the centre?
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  Hence that's the right answer or other which is the wrong answer?
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  No offense to other great identity podcases out there.
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  And so I'm going to open this up for voting and while they're
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  voting, Jim Shameless club for the podcast.
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  But you got. To go with identity at centre.
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  I mean, it's the right answer. Right.
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  It literally says it on the screen.
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  OK. So this should be a layup for
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  everybody and let's see what people came up with.
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  Hey, look at that surprise, surprise, it's the podcast.
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  So thank you very much. Appreciate it.
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  So hopefully that first Test question, you know, makes sense.
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  Let's see what that does for our scores.
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  We'll just see who is the fastest person to click the
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  button at this point. So Craig, Craig up front.
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  All right, so Fabian is right behind Ashley Kirk.
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  All right there. So we're talking millisecond
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  here from a response time. All right, let's get to the next
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  one. All right, What is your primary
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  goal for the conference? Is it networking?
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  Saw a lot of that in the bar last night or education?
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  I'm going to open it up for voting here and we'll talk about
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  that. What do you think?
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  For me it's always networking. Networking, yeah.
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  Yeah, I'm going networking for 1000.
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  Final answer. Final answer.
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  So you guys are picking what you think is the right, the most
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  popular answer? Just as a reminder, yeah.
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  Some people actually come to conferences to learn things.
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  So weird. I get it.
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  I get. It all right, Let's see all
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  right, pretty good splits OK all right so we're surrounded with
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  people who actually want to learn things so congratulations.
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  Unfortunately, you're not going to learn anything in this one.
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  So, you know, maybe a poor choice for those.
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  In the wrong side. We're.
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  Just setting the right expectations here.
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  Exactly. All right, So let's see what
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  we're doing for scores. So if you didn't select the
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  right answer, you're not going to get points on that one.
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  Craig is still in the lead. Dude, you were killing it.
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  Yeah, all right, let's see him. So you have policy enforcer,
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  we've got an agentic AI is playing the.
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  Game full names. Yeah.
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  All right, so let's keep going here.
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  Let's find out what is the most popular buzzword this year.
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  All right, Is it a gentic identity or post quantum
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  computing? So I feel like if you walk to
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  the Expo hall down there, you know everything is a gentic ID
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  identity. What do you think?
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  Becky, I think I gentic 100%. It's got to be agentic.
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  Is it because people just don't really understand post quantum
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  yet? Yes.
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  And they need to. Or do they need to?
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  But yeah. OK, All right, let's see.
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  Oh, yeah. Surprise, surprise.
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  Everything is agentic. So there we go.
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  Let's see what it does for our points.
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  There's something hard. Craig's still in the lead.
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  Fabian's hanging right there. Where's Fabian?
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  Craig's already. Spending that on Fabian's over
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  there. OK, All right, you got some, you
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  got some, some competition there.
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  Now I will say if you're behind right now, don't worry about it
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  because the twist is coming. Don't you worry.
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  That's right. All right.
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  Next question here. What is the primary use of user
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  behaviour analytics? UBA, Becky, what is what do you
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  think? Well, we, I used to call it
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  UEBA. Oh yeah.
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  That shows our age because it was UEBA, then UBA, and now I
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  feel like it's like these. Are these are both good answers?
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  Yeah. Jim, what do you go with?
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  Fraud or begging? Both Good.
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  I guess I'd go insider threat. Insider threat.
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  OK, well, let's see. What then?
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  I got to go with the other. Yeah, there you go.
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  That's fair. What'd you say?
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  I'd go with the other. He's going inside or I'm going
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  fraud. All right, let's see.
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  Oh, pretty good. Split inside first change.
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  OK, so fraud detection. Nobody cares if the.
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  Well, less, I'd say not nobody, but fewer people care if they're
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  getting ripped off. They're more concerned about the
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  people on the inside. OK, All right, let's see.
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  Craig, you still in first? Yeah, Fabian.
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  All right, Fabian. Fabian wants to go shopping on
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  Amazon. All right, let's see.
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  The policy enforcer has moved up, Agentic AI has slipped back
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  at the pseudo IMDU. OK, Neo, we're in the Matrix.
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  All right, some interesting names.
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  All right, so we're only showing the top 20 on here, but I'm sure
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  there's interesting ones out there as well.
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  OK, So what makes an Expo hall booth memorable?
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  Is it cool demos, neat technologies or friendly
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  experts? I know some people would say
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  socks that I know socks. Friendliness.
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  Socks is not an answer, but while you're.
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  Voting, but we'll go with friendliness.
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  All right, so how many people while you're voting, how many
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  people like socks to pick them up at these things?
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  OK, maybe 1/4 of the room. Oh, OK, well, you're still in
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  the quarter. Stuff like that.
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  I'll admit I'm not a sock guy, but I'm not going to be grudge.
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  All right, people want cool demos, preferably driven by
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  friendly experts. OK, so we've kind of warmed up
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  here a little bit. Let's see what that does for our
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  scores, Craig. Oh, wow.
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  All right, so where's Jo? In the back?
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  All right, my guy, I'm always sitting in the back, too.
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  All right, so Craig and Fabian. So Jo, come, come in and out of
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  there. So guess what?
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  It's twist time. So it's time to go into a battle
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  Royale mode. So the twist here now is instead
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  of 2 answers, you're going to see 4 answers.
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  Now the goal is still pretty similar.
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  You want to pick the majority answer, but you want to make
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  sure you do not pick the least popular answer.
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  If you pick the least popular answer, even if it's a tie, you
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  lose all your points. So everyone is going to have a
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  chance, right to Lavarian to win some valuable prizes and also
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  some Amazon gift cards. The sticker is the valuable
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  price. OK, all right, so let's go with
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  the next question. What is the true purpose of an
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  analyst 1 to one session? I think there's only one person
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  on the stage that can answer that one.
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  Well, we're going to find out what people think.
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  Is it road map validation? Is it contract negotiation, peer
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  benchmarking, or is it therapy? The Therapy 100.
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  Percent. All right, so a little insight
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  into what's happening behind the scenes.
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  Let's open it up for voting here and say.
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  We're going to get blown up here because I think any of these can
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  be the least popular. So remember, the strategy is not
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  the right answer, It's what you think the rest of the room is
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  going to pick. And I can guarantee you that
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  there will be agents of chaos in here who are just picking
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  random. Things and there are some former
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  analysts also in the audience. Yes, exactly.
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  And they can probably vouch for the therapy session, right?
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  Yeah, Yeah. OK.
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  All right, let's see. Well, vast majority, are we on
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  the right track from a road map perspective?
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  But yeah, therapy showing strong.
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  Showing strong. Easy for me.
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  As for the record, we do do all. Of those, exactly.
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  I did my research. Yeah, There you go.
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  All right, so if you picked contract negotiations, I'm
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  sorry, but you're going to lose all your points here.
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  The exciting thing is we see explosions.
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  Boom. Sorry, Ashley, but don't stop
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  playing. Remember, everyone can have a
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  chance right till the very end. You're still accumulating the
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  points as long as you don't pick the least popular answer.
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  So Kirk has moved into the lead here.
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  Jo, Fabian, Steph. Let's see a a joker with the the
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  very elite 3 as the E Cool. Let's go.
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  I saw an I, I saw an ID theft on there as well.
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  All right, how do you mitigate agentic AI risks?
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  Let's see if the options are is it non human identity policy
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  behaviour monitoring, scoped permissions or let's pray that
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  the bot doesn't learn the RMF commands and delete all your
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  files. What do you think?
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  I don't really like these answers.
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  OK, well, you have to pick a favorite.
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  I got to pick one, huh? Yeah.
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  Oh gosh, it's got to be the monitoring one, right?
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  I don't know. OK.
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  Scope permissions I think is my favorite.
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  Scope permissions. Well, let's open up for voting.
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  Let's see what people think. Yeah, I mean, I think, I don't
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  know, all of these are important.
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  I don't think you can be successful doing just one of
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  these. Correct, Except for making sure
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  that obviously you don't want your bot to delete your file
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  structure. Exactly.
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  Let's see what people are thinking.
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  OK, pretty good split here. Non human identity policy.
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  Scope permissions right there. A couple of folks, you know,
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  hoping for prayer to make sure the bot doesn't become sentient,
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  which is always nice. All right, let's see what that
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  does for our scores here. Let's see.
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  Fabian. Oh, John.
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  Sorry. John Oh, couple people.
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  See, John, you've got you played with us a couple weeks ago in,
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  in DC. So, you know, the audience is
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  way more sincere. The audience is way more
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  sincere. OK, the Gallway has been thrown
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  down by John. All right, let's keep going
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  here. What is the best strategy for
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  the vendor hall? And apologies to any vendors who
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  might be in here already solution mapping, competitor
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  analysis, partnership talks or aggressively avoiding ICON with
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  the sales Rep, which I'll tell you I'm a pro at.
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  If you look past people, that's the that's the tip right there.
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  All right, let's open up for voting.
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  Jim, how do you avoid? No, I don't.
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  I don't avoid. I need to have this
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  conversation. So I'm going to go competitor
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  analysis. What do you pick, Becky?
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  Talks. Talks, just talk.
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  I'm a people. Person I want to talk.
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  Swag. There's an office space
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  reference in there, but I'm not going to go there.
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  You're a people person. All right, let's see what the
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  people think. OK.
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  Yeah. Solution mapping.
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  And yeah, apologies to the vendors in here.
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  They're looking, you know, past you.
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  Let's see what it does for our scores, people who are
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  interested in partnership talks. OK, we left.
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  We kept the top 20. That's good, a Gentek AI.
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  Is walking around. No, nobody got a.
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  Nobody got with that one. Some people might have if on
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  their phones. Just not.
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  We'll just look at the. Top 20 yeah OK let's get to the
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  next one here what is the future of IGA identity governance
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  administration is it autonomous governance, policy based access
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  event driven or hey let's just replace one spreadsheet with
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  three dashboards I. I would I would like Felix to
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  answer this. Question #4 All right, well,
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  let's vote. Let's see if he votes for that.
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  Let's turn it out there. It's got to be #4.
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  You take it #4 OK, some people might actually pick a real
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  answer, so we'll see. I I'd pick event driven.
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  OK, event driven. See autonomous government.
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  Can't read this audience. It's the lights.
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  It's hard to see out there, right?
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  All right, autonomous governance, policy based event
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  driven and nobody's on on on board with the spreadsheets and
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  the dashboards. So let's see what it does for
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  our our scores here. All right, no changes there.
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  Where is Jo if I can see it? Oh, that's right.
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  Right in the back. OK.
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  There's Fabian, all right. Fabian Neo and the Agent are
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  right there, neck and neck. All right, let's go.
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  What is your favorite Gardner report?
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  And I know there's more than these, but we have 4 choices.
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  Is it the Magic Quadrant? Is it critical capabilities?
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  Is it the market guides or is it the hype sites?
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  Give me MQ for 1000 MQ. For 1000, OK.
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  Becky, what's your favorite? My favorite is Critical
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  capabilities. Critical capabilities.
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  OK, well, let's see what the people think.
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  I know there's other ones that are out there as well, but these
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  seem to be like the ones that come up the most, at least from
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  I've seen. All right, let's see what people
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  think. No.
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  One that one. Magic Quadrant 2/3.
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  OK, so who's brave? The 3%?
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  So it's maybe one of you that picked Hype cycles, John.
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  OK. All right.
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  Let's see John. And did you know that every
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  major quadrant has a critical capabilities?
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  Everybody know that that's always there.
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  Critical capabilities almost gets missed all the time but has
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  really good stuff. Oh, yeah, because you just got a
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  fancy graphic and that's nobody reads past that, right?
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  There's so much more to learn on that.
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  All right, Fabian's there. No is out there and I'm
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  emphasizing all the OS. So there you go, the pseudo
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  IMDU. OK.
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  I'm really surprised by people who score so high.
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  I'd be right there with Steve Rennick, not on the screen.
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  All right, let's get another one here.
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  What is the benefit of just in time access?
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  Is it 0 standing privileges on its streamlining risk reduction
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  or less time for the AI to hallucinate an admin task?
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  Always love, I always love that #4.
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  The number four, Yeah, You know, I had to sprinkle a little fun
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  fun into this. Yeah.
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  Not that it can't happen. That means 0 standing.
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  Yeah, let's. See what the people think.
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  What are you voting for, Becky? I think the the most popular
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  answer would be 0. Standing 0 Standing.
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  I'm guessing you're on 0 standing as well.
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  I haven't been very good though. OK, well, let's see.
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  Oh, you're right. So there we go.
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  That one, right? 2/3 the audience is 0 standing
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  privileges. All right, let's see what that
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  does for our scores. All right, Craig, back on time.
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  All right, All right. Where's a A?
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  Nobody's volunteering to be a A I've.
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  Seen. It OK, Yeah, All right, all
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  right, let's keep going. What should be prioritized when
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  using AI in authentication? Do we minimize false positive,
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  minimize friction, adaptive responses, or make that CAPTCHA
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  less insulting? Becky, are you a robot?
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  Can you pick all the motorcycles in this very grainy picture?
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  Not yet, not yet. I'm not a robot yet, OK?
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  What's the worst CAPTCHA you've ever seen, Jim?
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  Well, it's always like identify any stairs or identify the bus.
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  It's like, oh, is that a? Bus It's this little tiny
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  corner. Right, that a bus that might be
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  a bus. I think it's a real art form.
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  They have like a really bad CAPTCHA.
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  Yeah, like. There's a lot.
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  Of thoughts that probably. Goes into it.
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  There should be bad UI battles on Reddit or if anybody.
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  'S interested. In Magic Quadrant on the worst
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  CAPTCHA. I'm in favor of that.
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  You heard it here. Gartner 2025 Magic Quadrant
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  worst CAPTCHA coming soon. All right, minimize false
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  positives. OK, Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Let's see what we do for for scores here.
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  See, we've got 37 people playing.
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  Oh, we lost Steph and we lost Club 296.
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  Sorry. I get a little tickle when I
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  hear the explosions. I don't know for me that.
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  Just does something. I do I, I, I like chaos and
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  destruction. What can I say?
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  All right, let's get to the next question.
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  What is the best way to secure non human identities?
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  Isn't short lived tokens a secret rotation workload
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  identity federation or unplug the server because you can't
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  hack what's turned off. All right, what do you picking,
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  Becky? I'm picking short lived tokens.
• 19:22
  Short lived tokens, Jimmy Ruth, Short lived tokens.
• 19:25
  All right, short lived tokens. OK, let's see what the people
• 19:28
  think is they're voting. We should ask.
• 19:29
  Craig. Craig.
• 19:30
  What's the Craig? What do you think?
• 19:32
  Yeah. Just vote with Craig.
• 19:33
  Let's see. Short lived tokens.
• 19:36
  OK. Majority is the answer there.
• 19:39
  Let's see. All right.
• 19:43
  Craig's still there. We lost Fabian.
• 19:44
  Sorry, Fabian. Don't worry.
• 19:46
  There's still a chance to come back.
• 19:48
  All we need is Craig to slip up. Jo, the pseudo IMDDU.
• 19:53
  All right, a rod. I'm assuming that's not the
• 19:56
  baseball player. Yeah.
• 19:58
  What else could it be, right? What is the key to successful B
• 20:01
  to BI AM? Policy, delegation,
• 20:04
  standardization, trust framework, So federation.
• 20:07
  So when it breaks, it's the partner's fault.
• 20:11
  What are you going to pick, Becky?
• 20:15
  I I don't really like this question very much.
• 20:18
  I'm going to I guess. I mean delegation is a big deal
• 20:22
  for B to B, so is trust. Delegated administration.
• 20:27
  So I don't see that there, but I'll go with policy delegation.
• 20:31
  Policy delegation. OK, let's see what the people
• 20:33
  think. Yep, most people are in policy
• 20:35
  trust frameworks. A couple of agents of chaos out
• 20:38
  there that are happy to blame the partner.
• 20:41
  Let's see what it does for our scores.
• 20:42
  Yeah, we're going to have some blow UPS, I think.
• 20:44
  Yeah, here we go. Sorry, Carly.
• 20:45
  Oh, Mr. Renick. No, sorry.
• 20:49
  Thanks for playing. Keep playing.
• 20:51
  Everyone's still in it. A A has taken the lead.
• 20:55
  All right. What is the hardest part of role
• 20:57
  mining? Everyone's favorite project?
• 21:00
  Dynamic context over privileged roles, business ownership, or
• 21:04
  discovering that you've got 5000 employees and 6000 roles.
• 21:08
  That never happens, right? No, quadruple it.
• 21:11
  That's more of a common. That's right.
• 21:13
  What what do you think is the what are you going to vote for
• 21:15
  here? If you were, If you were
• 21:16
  playing. Well, the hardest part of them,
• 21:20
  I guess, for me, ownership. Ownership.
• 21:23
  Definitely. Ownership, I see Jim shaking his
• 21:24
  head. All right, let's see the people
• 21:28
  think dynamic contexts. OK all right.
• 21:31
  And and there's only one truthful Lancelot here, which
• 21:33
  was the 5000 rolls. So, so the one person who has
• 21:37
  selected that, thank you for answering truthfully.
• 21:39
  This is not the hardest part. That's the most realistic part.
• 21:42
  All right, a rod is now in the lead.
• 21:44
  Was quick on the buzzer that time.
• 21:46
  Let's get to the next one. Why is privilege access
• 21:49
  management for AI agents vital? Is it shadow AI model integrity?
• 21:56
  Data exfiltration? Or so Dave's bot doesn't
• 21:59
  accidentally delete prize. Everyone's.
• 22:03
  I always like the last answer best.
• 22:05
  Always thank you. You're welcome.
• 22:08
  Good job. What are you going to vote for?
• 22:11
  Oh I guess, oh Jesus, all of the above data exfiltration or
• 22:15
  shadow AII would go with. So, AIA.
• 22:19
  I yeah, Exfiltration. Exfiltration.
• 22:21
  All right, Let's see what the people think.
• 22:22
  The audience says it is shadow AI.
• 22:25
  Yeah, I think that's a big problem right now, right?
• 22:27
  I mean, it's everyone is experimenting with these.
• 22:28
  Schools, it's a problem. People just don't know what's a.
• 22:30
  Problem. Yeah, All right, let's see what
• 22:32
  does for our scores here. All right, A a back in the in
• 22:37
  the 1st. Is that a a Ron?
• 22:42
  Hopefully we got some key and pee Peel key, key and Peele fans
• 22:44
  here. All right, What is the main take
• 22:47
  away of the keynotes that we've heard so far this week?
• 22:51
  Is it future vision, strategic pillars, market direction, or
• 22:55
  new buzzwords to confuse the board?
• 22:58
  #4 always goes for me. Yeah, I was.
• 23:01
  Was it? IVIP is a new one.
• 23:03
  Ivip, Ivy. I call it ivip.
• 23:06
  Some people say IVIP. You know, tomato.
• 23:09
  Tomato. Let's open up for voting, see if
• 23:11
  people think I think identity at the core was the theme for this
• 23:15
  one. You notice I didn't say because
• 23:18
  identity at the center was taken.
• 23:20
  And that's a lesson in trademark, folks.
• 23:23
  All right, let's see. Most people think future vision.
• 23:26
  Yeah. Where's Where's the industry
• 23:28
  going? That's a good message.
• 23:29
  Yep. All right.
• 23:30
  You think Holman's going to be happy with that?
• 23:32
  That's what the answers were, Sure.
• 23:34
  Yeah, got so much Holman, maybe Mike and Atkin.
• 23:36
  Maybe. OK, All right.
• 23:37
  Yeah. All right.
• 23:38
  Let's see what it does for our scores here.
• 23:42
  Well, actually in the pseudo IMDU have blown up.
• 23:45
  No, very sorry. We're sorry.
• 23:47
  All right, let's see who comes up on the board.
• 23:48
  No. No background.
• 23:51
  Policy Enforcer Joker John is back on the on the leaderboard.
• 23:54
  Here we've got the Auth Enigma. That's a great name.
• 23:58
  Agentic AI is in the top five. Craig, you're still hanging
• 24:01
  around at #6. Craig, you're kind of lurking
• 24:03
  all the time, yeah. It could just.
• 24:06
  All right, let's see. How do you measure I am success?
• 24:11
  Is it time to access automated remediation threat coverage or
• 24:15
  the Siso smiles? Just kidding, that never
• 24:17
  happens. The Siso never smiles.
• 24:19
  I do like that the answer though.
• 24:21
  Yeah, OK, yeah. Siso smiles.
• 24:23
  Let's open it. Up.
• 24:24
  I don't really just miss that last one, but I'm going to say
• 24:27
  threat coverage, threat coverage.
• 24:29
  Sounds smart. You're just saying all about
• 24:30
  risk, right? They're saying all the businessy
• 24:32
  things. They're not in there well, but
• 24:34
  that's OK. Some Sisos are technical, some
• 24:36
  aren't. Or less technical I should say.
• 24:39
  I probably most people on time to access Yeah.
• 24:43
  How quickly you know, how quickly do you provision access
• 24:45
  right, things like that. OK, All right.
• 24:47
  We got about 5 minutes left. We'll see how many we can get
• 24:49
  through here. A rod first place.
• 24:52
  Who's Where's a rod? Yeah, where's a rod?
• 24:54
  Who's a rod? In the back as well.
• 24:56
  All right, a rod's going to go shopping.
• 24:59
  All right. What is identity threat
• 25:02
  detection response ITD? Is it real time response?
• 25:08
  Is it signal sharing? Is it attack path analyst?
• 25:10
  Or is it just scrapping logs with a cooler name?
• 25:16
  What's What do you mean by graphing logs?
• 25:18
  So that's how you pull information fucking an Xbox
• 25:21
  graphing. Graphing, it's called.
• 25:23
  That's a nerd joke they make. How many people know what
• 25:25
  graphing is OK? All right, I clearly am.
• 25:28
  Shout out in the nerd class. Good, let's see what people
• 25:31
  think. Real time response, signal
• 25:33
  sharing, Attack path analysis? How do you how would you define
• 25:36
  ITDR based on these? Choices all of the.
• 25:38
  Above all of the above OK, but all of the above is I'm like
• 25:42
  signal sharing. Yeah, that's how you detect.
• 25:45
  Yeah, let's. See what people say.
• 25:48
  Real time responses. Yeah, OK.
• 25:50
  I guess that's the detection part.
• 25:52
  Of the response, yeah. All right, let's see what it
• 25:54
  does for our scores. We've got a a.
• 25:58
  Oh, we lost Chris. Sorry, Chris, A A is on the
• 26:02
  lead. A rod No.
• 26:05
  Back up there. Congratulations.
• 26:08
  All right, next question, what is the biggest lie in IAM sales?
• 26:15
  Is it fully autonomous, one click install legacy compatible
• 26:21
  or it's just one line of code? Let's open it up for Boeing.
• 26:26
  What do you think? Are you not allowed to say
• 26:29
  anything on this one? No.
• 26:31
  They don't lie, I. Have to deal with this so I.
• 26:35
  Love this card. Legacy compatible?
• 26:38
  Yeah. Number one.
• 26:40
  Let's see what people think. Fully autonomous, pretty pretty
• 26:43
  wide margin. So if you picked legacy
• 26:45
  compatible and just went on code, there's a tie.
• 26:47
  So we might lose some people on this one.
• 26:50
  Little bit of hype on that. 1 All right, still in the league.
• 26:54
  All right, we've got about 3 minutes left, so anyone's game.
• 26:58
  What is your least favorite Gartner report?
• 27:02
  Is it the Magic Quadrant critical capabilities market
• 27:06
  guys or high cycles? Probably my favorite is going to
• 27:10
  be the least favorite. Your favorite is the least
• 27:12
  favorite. Which I said before was critical
• 27:14
  capability, OK, but I just don't think people have read it.
• 27:17
  OK, so Jim, I'm going to put you in a spot.
• 27:19
  What is your least favorite? Garden magic fun you.
• 27:22
  You don't like magic fun. I said those my favorite.
• 27:24
  That's. Your thing you you like it and
• 27:27
  you don't like it. I like the image, I don't like
• 27:30
  the 60 page. The critical capabilities, all
• 27:34
  right, OK. Most people don't like the high
• 27:37
  cycles. Really.
• 27:38
  Is it really true or you? Have to pick 1 so.
• 27:41
  I get it. I've got 4 choices.
• 27:44
  OK, all right, let's see if we differ our scores.
• 27:49
  All right, this is a little strong saying 20.
• 27:52
  All right, what is the best way to prepare for an audience?
• 27:56
  Do we use continuous compliance, automated evidence, policy
• 28:01
  adding or ask AI to generate plausible excuses?
• 28:06
  Which one do we pick? Which one do you like #1?
• 28:11
  Continuous compliance, gym, automated evidence.
• 28:17
  Yeah. OK.
• 28:18
  All right. I kind of like the idea of an
• 28:19
  AI. You're giving me a whole bunch
• 28:20
  of excuses. We'll see, if anything.
• 28:24
  OK. Yeah.
• 28:24
  Continuous compliance. Yeah.
• 28:25
  They're right there with your denim.
• 28:27
  They're paying attention. They're going through your
• 28:28
  therapy sessions. Thanks.
• 28:29
  They're listening all right. Dad.
• 28:33
  All right, Let's see. I don't think you see changes
• 28:35
  here. Oh, John.
• 28:37
  John, you're coming and going. You're just kind of like in and
• 28:40
  out. Yeah.
• 28:41
  Like the wind? All right, what is the most
• 28:44
  common lie in the vendor hall? Is it native integration,
• 28:49
  standard support, mobile scalability or best features on
• 28:53
  the road map for Q1? All right, what do you?
• 28:58
  Think I go with #4. It's on the road map, yes.
• 29:02
  Have you ever come across a product that did not have a
• 29:04
  feature on a road map? I haven't yet.
• 29:07
  So OK, let's see what people think.
• 29:09
  Is there any vendors in the room that don't?
• 29:12
  Say this, they're not that brave.
• 29:16
  OK, native integration, but a lot of people like the the road
• 29:19
  map item. OK, all right, we're down to a
• 29:22
  minute left. A rod is still in the lead.
• 29:26
  A A is still right there. All right.
• 29:28
  Let's see if we get no just like that 20th spot.
• 29:32
  All right, what is the most dangerous access, right?
• 29:35
  Is it global admin, cloud owner root, or the interns test AI
• 29:40
  agent? Open up for voting here.
• 29:43
  Those interns are scary. Interns are scary.
• 29:47
  They're smart. Go Landon.
• 29:50
  Yeah, okay. You gonna go interns?
• 29:53
  No, no, I'll go globally. Okay, all right, let's see what
• 30:00
  people think. Yeah, go away before with it.
• 30:02
  All right, we got 10 seconds on the clock, and I know that we're
• 30:04
  holding people off from lunch, so we're going to call it here a
• 30:08
  winner. Let's see what it does for our
• 30:09
  scoreboard. This is it.
• 30:11
  This is the winner. This is the winner.
• 30:13
  A rod. All right, where's a rod?
• 30:16
  Stand up. A rod.
• 30:18
  Where are you at? There you are.
• 30:19
  A densing AI. How do I know that you're gonna
• 30:23
  densing AI? All right.
• 30:25
  And then a a where are you? All right, all right.
• 30:29
  Cool. All right, see us after class so
• 30:31
  we can get your information and get you valuable prices.
• 30:34
  Again, thanks to RSM and Signal for donating those to us.
• 30:36
  So it's very cool. Hopefully you had a good time.
• 30:39
  Again, I promised you wouldn't learn anything, maybe just learn
• 30:41
  something about yourself, which is really, you know, that's a
• 30:43
  great. That's a great story, right.
• 30:45
  Yeah, exactly. Enjoy lunch and thank you very
• 30:48
  much. And yeah, that's it.
• 30:50
  Thank you very much everyone. You've been listening to
• 30:55
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