Latest / The Central Indiana Sports Report / IndyCar: Toronto Recap & Reaction with Elijah Poe (Podcast No. 331.1)
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_05]: What you are listening to now is the Central Indiana Sports Report podcast number three hundred and thirty one point one.
- 0:08[SPEAKER_05]: Our recap of the Indie car race in Toronto with Elijah pose reaction.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_08]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host Greg Mendel.
- 0:22[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome Indie car fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_05]: and our recap of the Indicar race in Toronto followed by Elijah Pose reaction to the what was honestly another fantastic Indicar race.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_05]: Today is Sunday July, twenty twenty five.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_05]: I'm your host Greg Mengal right next to me is producer Susie joining us momentarily will be our Indicar guy Elijah Poe to talk about Sunday's race.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_05]: Before we get to the recap and the reaction, let me tell you about our plans coming up for season two of the Central Indiana Sports Report.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_05]: We will have an indie car report with Elijah Poe every single week.
- 1:10[SPEAKER_05]: Well, at least forty weeks a year plus we will continue to do previews of every race following qualifying and then recaps and reactions following every race the rest of the season and next season and beyond.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_05]: And his Elijah and I reference late in his reaction.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_05]: Silly seasons coming up, we're going to be talking a lot about that in the coming weeks.
- 1:38[SPEAKER_05]: And here is your indie car recap for round thirteen and Toronto.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_05]: Mexican paddle award one for the second time in the last three weeks.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_05]: And for the knife time in his career.
- 1:54[SPEAKER_05]: Beating Reena's VK under caution to
- 1:58[SPEAKER_05]: when the indie car race, race number thirteen of the season in Toronto at an exhibition place.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_05]: And for the second time in the last three races, Paddle Award went into the pits and second place in his era, McLaren team got him out in first.
- 2:20[SPEAKER_05]: Although in our conversation coming up, Elijah Poe agrees with me, Paddle probably would have chased down Rina's VK either way and won.
- 2:28[SPEAKER_05]: He had the superior car on the day.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, the most superior cars on the day were the Andredi cars who finished fourth, fifth and sixth.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_05]: But this was a strategy race and early in the race.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, on lap three, when Scott McLaughlin's tire came off of his car, he didn't want to blame his team, but he blamed his team.
- 2:51[SPEAKER_05]: Paddo Award, Greenus VK, and a few others decided to
- 2:56[SPEAKER_05]: Go into the pits, remove their alternate tires so they didn't have to use those anymore.
- 3:01[SPEAKER_05]: They only had to use them for two green flag laps, and that was the difference in the race.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_05]: Here's the twenty six year old Pato Award with apparently some Canadian bird took a big dump on Pato Awards car before the race.
- 3:19[SPEAKER_05]: He told the Indian Apple's Motor Speedway Radio Network's Michael Younglet.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_05]: He thinks that was the good luck that did it.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_06]: Ever since that bird dropped a load on the car, and one of my guys this morning I said, and that's a living mid today, it's gonna be a good day.
- 3:34[SPEAKER_06]: Man, this has been the most challenging circuit in the past for us, and I didn't expect us to get that much better this year, and I was feeling so good with this prime tire, sadly, in qualifying, you need the alternate to actually transfer.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_06]: So, we keep making our sun a little bit harder, but the team gave me a awesome strategy, they absolutely nailed it.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_06]: And I had the card to do it.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_06]: So did my job.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_04]: They did theirs and we executed today.
- 4:00[SPEAKER_04]: How about these race fairs?
- 4:01[SPEAKER_04]: I saw you salute them as you beat your way down the front straightaway.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you guys are freaking awesome.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for coming.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for bringing the energy.
- 4:10[SPEAKER_06]: That's what truly makes this so special.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_04]: Zach Brown here, Tony Kennon came up to congratulate you to have the boss bed.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_04]: Two boss bed with you to see you get your second victory of twenty twenty five.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_04]: What did that mean?
- 4:22[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Zach's never been to any of our wins and I was you know, I was keen to finally get that done for him and I'm glad to be the one that
- 4:32[SPEAKER_06]: You know, that gives him that first memory of his indie card team, you know, being there in the flesh on a win.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_05]: For Reena's VK and Dale Coin racing, a runner-up finish quite a day for that team and for Reena's VK, equaling his career best finish that he had at the twenty twenty one Detroit Grand Prix over four years ago.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_02]: It was an awesome race, really.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_02]: We did something else strategy.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were the only ones doing that.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this team has been incredible as strategy.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_02]: We took a gamble and it was awesome.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_02]: It was awesome.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_02]: Really happy.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_02]: Really great job and the car was awesome.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_02]: It sucks that we finished second.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_02]: I think we could have maybe won.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_02]: We've been moving all season long, but we've been coming from the back.
- 5:25[SPEAKER_02]: We fit the ride strategy every time, but finally we've come from kind of the front, Paul's like nine, and there's a drop of rubber away forward.
- 5:33[SPEAKER_02]: So, really good job, really, really happy and Paul's team effort.
- 5:40[SPEAKER_05]: Same story for twenty-year-old Kiffin Simpson, who finished on the podium for the first time in his career, driving for Ginnassi.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_05]: Simpson became the first Caribbean driver ever to finish on the podium.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's incredible to be able to represent Cayman and Barbados in the entire Caribbean and I'm just so happy right now.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's on lost rewards.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_05]: Colton heard of and Dreddy Racing took the early lead lead leading the first three laps before series points leader and two time raining.
- 6:16[SPEAKER_05]: series champion Alex Polo took the lead and led from laps forty laps four to forty VK led forty one to lap fifty six and then patto award took control after the last pit stop and drove to the victory his second of the year and the second for Chevrolet this season
- 6:40[SPEAKER_05]: A multi-car crash involving Jacob Abel took out Joseph New Garden who has just had an awful awful season.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_05]: Don't get me wrong, Susie.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of reason for consternation this season for Joseph New Garden, but he just continues to act like a child.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_05]: Here's his post-race interview, all five seconds of it.
- 7:10[SPEAKER_05]: That is a great drop-in, producer Susie.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, Elijah Poe and I will be talking about Pinsky Racing's continued bad luck and new gardens, poor reactions coming up, and just a moment.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_05]: Alex Polo maintains a ninety-nine point lead in the standings heading into round fourteen next week at Laguna Saka Award now trails by ninety-nine points.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_05]: Polo did lead the most laps in the race but finished twelve.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_05]: Did not have a great car today and was cut out on strategy as was his teammate Scott Dixon and those guys usually get it right.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_05]: Bad day for Anne Dreddy, despite finishing fourth fifth and sixth because they probably had the first second and third fastest cars.
- 8:08[SPEAKER_05]: With Colton hurt a fourth, Marcus Erickson fifth and Kyle Kirkwood sixth.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_05]: If it wasn't a strategy race, it's probably a race to the finish between three and Dreddy cars.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_05]: Graham Ray hall great day for him finishing seventh.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_05]: He was in contention a lot of the day.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_05]: Calamilot, who was driving around a bunch of muppets, finished an eighth.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_05]: David Malukas was ninth and Dixon-Timth.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_05]: Willpower finished eleventh.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_05]: He had an erasing incident going for position on Pado Award, who had just passed him for third place.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_05]: He didn't hit the wall, but it made him come to a complete stop.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_05]: It cost him a chance to win and he finished eleventh.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_05]: Hello is twelve then Christian Loomdard, Marcus Ericsson, and our guy Connor Daily who finished him fifteen.
- 8:57[SPEAKER_05]: He was in third at one point, but Daily said on the front stretch open wheel youtube page that he had to drive very carefully to not run out of fuel.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we did a big fuel number, a really big fuel number.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, I don't think we were gonna make it unless we got that yellow.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_03]: It's the last last couple of laps there.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_03]: We struggled mechanically, just like it's, we're relying a lot on the new tire grip and the aerobrip.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_03]: And when we started to lose that, we're just really struggling.
- 9:28[SPEAKER_03]: So we kind of know that's our issue.
- 9:31[SPEAKER_03]: And it was very much on display today, because we had to make a tire go very, very long.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just a struggle.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just hanging on myself for your life.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_03]: and you know appreciate the team give me the chance you know strategy they got us up there and you know at least it's nice to be able to fight but I just if we would have had maybe one or two more laps of yellow our number probably wouldn't have been as aggressive and then that would have been slightly better for us but yeah just challenge for sure one day Susie it's not too long in the future I think Connor Daily is gonna win a race
- 10:08[SPEAKER_05]: Robert Swartzman, what finished sixteenth followed by Stingray Rob, Nolan Seagull, Felix Rosenquist, Christian Rasmussen, Louis Foster, Devlin, D. Francesco, Jacob Abel, Joseph New Garden was twenty-fourth, Alexander Rossi had a wreck on his own to finish twenty-five.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_05]: Scott McLaughlin was twenty-sixth and Sam Tino Farucci had an accident and warm-ups and did not race on Sunday.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_05]: He's expected to be back next week at Laguna Saka, coming up on Sunday.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_05]: Really love wearing the best part of the indie car season if you're a big fan of race week after week.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_05]: Please stay tuned for Elijah Pose Reaction.
- 10:55[SPEAKER_08]: You're with today to the central Indiana sports report with your host, Craig Menjow.
- 11:05[SPEAKER_05]: Elijah before we get to Pado Award and the job he did today.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_05]: Man, what a race.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_05]: There's been years where I dreaded, they're, them going to a street course because they were so bad.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_05]: But what a race on a street course today.
- 11:24[SPEAKER_05]: Racy all through the packs.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_05]: Indicard just has not failed to say single time this week this year.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_05]: Minus Thorne.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_07]: No, they have not besides thermal, the racing has been fantastic and this is another race where from start to finish, just incredible.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_07]: You had perfectly timed cautions that threw in a lot of strategies in the play.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, you've got strategies that ended up not working like Alex Plo and Scott Dixon, but then he reen his VK pedal award.
- 11:51[SPEAKER_07]: They're strategy working and seeing so many
- 11:54[SPEAKER_07]: different variables play out through the race is what makes Indie car so great and the racing today is all seeing them on that street course just just the ability to pass is so daring and they're really going for today was a great product.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_05]: Fantastic.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen like it.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen anything like it.
- 12:13[SPEAKER_05]: It's so good.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_05]: There's no other series that's close.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_05]: The past and indie card doesn't even come close to this on street courses.
- 12:22[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how they're doing it, but there's never a moment in these races where there's not someone racing each other for position.
- 12:30[SPEAKER_05]: It's unreal.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I know we've talked about the people in the series, because these drivers, they're just special and top to bottom.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_07]: And that's, and that's how you make a series great.
- 12:41[SPEAKER_07]: You've got stained out talents like Padre Award, like Alex Polo, and I could go on and on.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_07]: So with that with that driver pool, you're really seeing any car at its best this season and such an entertaining year and for sure an entertaining race at Toronto.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_05]: but it's not just the driver pool because of a was just the driver pool then the seventies and eighties would have been like this and they weren't so it's also the formula and what the series has decided is a priority and what they've decided is and what they've decided is their priority is fundraising yeah
- 13:19[SPEAKER_07]: They have, and it's working with Honda and Chevy.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_07]: Another Chevy went today, which is big for them.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_07]: They're second one of the season, both coming through Patto.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_07]: They've really got a formula that works, and it works for multiple teams.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_07]: And I think that's the most important part.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_07]: You don't have one or two teams really dominating.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, we all know, Penske and Ganesi are going to be the best.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_07]: But Aaron McLaren's there.
- 13:41[SPEAKER_07]: Do you've got Androidy there?
- 13:43[SPEAKER_07]: There's so many great teams and so many great drivers and all together.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_07]: What a time it is to be an indie car fan because this is some of the best I've seen from the series as a whole.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_05]: And today also proves that even the smallest teams if they hit it right on a weekend can compete for a win.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it does.
- 14:00[SPEAKER_07]: Talking about Rina's VK in second place today.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I was thinking, winner, winner, indie car fans and paddock as a whole.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_07]: going to give VK the respect he deserves at this point because he's had just a great twenty twenty five season and and credit to del coin racing for for pulling off that strategy.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think there was only four or five people who actually put with patto I think it was patto Eric's in Scotty Mac and VK and kiffin Simpson, but for them to weekend and week out make the correct strategy calls as a small team.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_07]: is so important for them, and what a great driver combo that they have in VK this year who's able to pull out those results.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_05]: And the one thing that it does do, and this is the complaint, the Formula One fans have of Indie car, is often the best car doesn't win.
- 14:48[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that was the case that I heard at Kirkwood, I think had the two best cars, and they weren't even in contention late in the race because of the way the pits fell.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_07]: No, they weren't.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_07]: And even, I mean, and ready finishing four, five and six is a fantastic result for them, but, you know, in this day and age in any car, if you don't have the strategy right and you don't get, if you don't nail those pit stops, you're not going to be in it at the end.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what happened to them.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_07]: Just unfortunate on the timing and when they went into pit, just got a little bit unlucky, but, you know, that's in the car.
- 15:21[SPEAKER_07]: You've got to be perfect to win.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_05]: Let's talk about patto this race was one early in the race when the team decided we're going to pit.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, genius, they he pit on.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_07]: on lap three to get rid of those soft tires and those soft tires as a whole.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_07]: I really wish Indie Car and Firestone could work together because I feel like every time they go to a street circuit.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_07]: If you see teams wanting to get rid of those soft tires really, really quick.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_05]: Although it's another thing that plays into the strategy.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_05]: Do you pit now because of the soft tires or do you stay out to get an advantage?
- 15:58[SPEAKER_05]: These are the types of things that have made the racing so compelling.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_07]: Well, true.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_07]: And I think the soft tires, that is an interesting component, but to have those tires only really lasts nine or eight laps compared to the alternates that can run twenty thirty thirty five laps.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_07]: I just think that the gap is too big.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_07]: And when you're trying to keep the spot run both.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_07]: When you're crying, we're crying teams are on both compounds.
- 16:24[SPEAKER_07]: You would like to see something closer, but you know, to your credit, I don't, I don't blame you either.
- 16:28[SPEAKER_07]: It did provide some great racing today.
- 16:30[SPEAKER_07]: And in moments like this, I don't want to see the soft tire be any better because the strategy calls were, we're spot on today.
- 16:37[SPEAKER_07]: There were so many different playing out.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_07]: And the era McLaren team just nailed it.
- 16:41[SPEAKER_07]: And Patto was said yesterday after qualifying that he really thought his race car was strong.
- 16:46[SPEAKER_07]: And he proved it today.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_07]: And he was absolutely flying through the field after hitting after lap three.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_05]: I think if you're going to have a power ranking of which drivers you want in your seat, he's got to be number two right.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_07]: I would say so not only does he have a great driving skill, he's really good on ovals.
- 17:07[SPEAKER_07]: I almost could say that for sure that Paddo's got that over Polo, just because he has been so fierce on ovals and has been a contention forever.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_07]: Paddo also brings eyes to the series, like no other driver on the in the paddock.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_07]: He's got the biggest social media following.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_07]: He's just got that nailed down pat with that era McLaren team is there able to bring so much hype and momentum into the series and he is one of the best talents we have in any car.
- 17:32[SPEAKER_05]: And Palo and award are both so likable.
- 17:36[SPEAKER_07]: Just great.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_07]: Just great.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_07]: Do does it is.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_07]: They always keep their nose clean and not only are they great racers.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_07]: They're they're super personable.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what any car needs as a whole.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_07]: You know, the huge reason formula one is so popular is because formula one was able to make their drivers the main market.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_07]: You market them as personalities and people are going to like those personalities and they're going to watch the sport.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_07]: And you look at pillow and a ward and that's what they're doing with their own brands, which is great to see.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_05]: The indie cars always been more of a spectator sport than a fan sport.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_05]: If you know what I mean, for example, I was at an endie five hundred once and the person next to me was an ass car fan had never been to an indie car race.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_05]: And my favorite driver, I don't even remember the circumstances.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_05]: My favorite driver went out so I picked another driver.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_05]: And then another guy went out and I picked and then it came down to two guys and I picked one of them.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_05]: You know, to cheer for and he didn't understand that he thought once your cars guys out you're done your your days done and any car fans are just a little different.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_05]: We like everybody in the field pretty much.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_07]: And the guys that are in the field, especially it's hard not to root for almost everybody on the grid.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_07]: It really is.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_07]: And they do a great job with promoting as well within the teams.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_07]: I just wish maybe I wish Indie Car was a little bit like NASCAR like that.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_07]: Because you know, you love to see rivals between drivers, fans get mad at other fans.
- 19:03[SPEAKER_07]: We need some bad guy.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_07]: We do need some bad guys.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_05]: and speaking of which if there are some bad guys, it's it's pinsky, just because they win so much.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_05]: There's like the Yankees, you know, and not this year.
- 19:17[SPEAKER_05]: Man, is it been, if you don't like pinsky, it's been a great year for you.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_05]: It's just been an incredibly bad season for them and it just keeps getting worse.
- 19:27[SPEAKER_05]: Can't even keep a wheel on a car.
- 19:30[SPEAKER_07]: It's almost head scratching because the drivers they have
- 19:35[SPEAKER_07]: are incredible.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_05]: And this is not on the drug.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_07]: And the things that are happening are just, it's the worst luck I've seen in a whole season.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_07]: And for Joseph New Garden, it just never ends.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_07]: You have to think he had
- 19:52[SPEAKER_07]: At Long Beach, his seat belt prop.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_07]: He has seat belt issue at the any five hundred fuel pump issue.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_07]: St.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_07]: Louis, he was crashed out by Louis Foster couldn't avoid that.
- 20:01[SPEAKER_07]: Rhode America spun himself out.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_07]: Middle Ohio got collected on lap one and today got crashed with Jacob able spinning around.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_07]: It's just absolute horrible luck and just when you think it can't get worse, it does.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just unreal.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_05]: And at this point, if you're any of those three drivers, you just have to be stand to yourself.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_05]: This isn't our fault.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_05]: We just kind of got to laugh it off.
- 20:23[SPEAKER_05]: Make each race its own championship and go out and try to win the next one and forget about it.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_05]: Because just of New Garden, I is blood pressure has to be crazy.
- 20:33[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're not handling this well at all.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_07]: Now, you can really tell it's bothering him and if anything, I'm really interested to see how he bounces back in twenty twenty six.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_07]: If there's not a lot of eyes on Team Penske this year, I think that pressure will be even more so next season because people are going to expect them to have those results because they didn't have them this year.
- 20:56[SPEAKER_07]: And depending on what happens next year, it could be very interesting how the any car paddock lines up.
- 21:03[SPEAKER_05]: Let me tell you one thing Roger Pinsky has a chance to start over with his organization and he will not swing and miss.
- 21:10[SPEAKER_05]: He never had.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't he rarely makes mistakes like that.
- 21:14[SPEAKER_07]: That is for sure.
- 21:15[SPEAKER_05]: When he twenty six, I'm assuming will be the year of Joseph New Garden and Scott McLaughlin.
- 21:20[SPEAKER_05]: That's that's just kind of what I assume at this point.
- 21:23[SPEAKER_07]: And I think that'd be great for the series.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_07]: I would love to see a three-way battle between New Garden, Scotty Mac, and Alex Pillow.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_07]: I couldn't think of anything more entertaining alongside other drivers on the grid.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Pat, of course.
- 21:37[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of what Jeremiah McLaren just seems to be making those steps closer and closer.
- 21:43[SPEAKER_05]: And Jeremiah McLaren just seems to close the gap
- 21:48[SPEAKER_05]: every single week between them and the elite teams and they're right there now.
- 21:52[SPEAKER_05]: I think you have to consider them one of the big four now.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think they are.
- 21:58[SPEAKER_07]: They've got a great driver lineup with award.
- 22:01[SPEAKER_07]: Loard and even though Nolan Seagull is young, we see talent out of him all the time.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_07]: And what better for Aaron McLaren to kind of really solidify their dominance in the sport than by having a driver like Patto able to pull through with a win today is absolutely huge when nobody really had it on their on their bingo card that he was going to win this race starting in tenth.
- 22:22[SPEAKER_07]: They're a team that's able to make the strategy calls and and they've got drivers to pull it off and that's really all you need in indie cards to have these good results and they keep on having them time in the time out because they are a really well-doiled machine and I would love for them to see then push and ask the impensky on a long-term scale.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_07]: here in the future because obviously we know right now and you know they're they're good at certain tracks and they've got their unique areas for FX Ortiz but for season long hole I would love to see them really be able to push those top two teams and we touched it a little on VK we'll talk a little bit more about him as well but Kiffin Simpson huge result for him today
- 23:02[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, first podium of his indie car career and they the tip can ask these crew and of the number eight car we're just able to get it right starting down in thirteenth decided to pit with patto and VK and Cleptis those clean and he had a colon herd of really coming into him those last couple laps before the final caution flew but he was able to defend and you know even though those last two laps it looked like hard a would have gotten him
- 23:26[SPEAKER_07]: You know, there's a caution for a reason.
- 23:28[SPEAKER_07]: That's just part of the sport and he's able to hold on the third just a huge result for him because, you know, he needed some boost for this season or at least to have a good result in that and that car to hopefully keep his seat in the future.
- 23:42[SPEAKER_05]: awards crew won him the race at Iowa.
- 23:46[SPEAKER_05]: They got him out ahead of new garden and otherwise new garden probably wins that race.
- 23:51[SPEAKER_05]: Same today.
- 23:52[SPEAKER_05]: They got him ahead of VK.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think award probably catches VK anyway?
- 23:56[SPEAKER_05]: Or is this a race VK wins if the McLaren team doesn't get him out ahead?
- 24:02[SPEAKER_07]: I think award would have caught him.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_07]: When he was back in the middle of the pack, a couple of those restarts, he was making up positions like it was a job.
- 24:10[SPEAKER_07]: He was just absolutely flying.
- 24:14[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't think as good as VK is, the cars are just on a different level.
- 24:18[SPEAKER_07]: And I think, Pat, I was just
- 24:19[SPEAKER_07]: got him on the skill advantage as well.
- 24:21[SPEAKER_07]: Um, I just don't think he'd be able to stop him.
- 24:23[SPEAKER_07]: This good as VK is and, you know, VK being in seconds is just a huge result for Dale Coin racing and really great for the series to have these smaller teams beyond the podium every once in a while.
- 24:34[SPEAKER_05]: And talking about award going through the field, that really cost will power a chance to contend award past power for position.
- 24:40[SPEAKER_05]: I believe it was third place at the time.
- 24:42[SPEAKER_05]: And then power tried to come back on the outside on a spot that
- 24:47[SPEAKER_05]: almost made a work and he didn't even hit the wall, but he had to full break and come to a complete stop to avoid hitting the wall and that cost him a chance to win the race.
- 24:57[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it was just a difficult spot for him to cut a run with a ward because a ward being aggressive driver.
- 25:03[SPEAKER_07]: He did squeeze power, but powers got to expect that out of a ward.
- 25:07[SPEAKER_07]: He was able to salvage in the eleventh place, but starting in fourth.
- 25:10[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, it's not a great result.
- 25:12[SPEAKER_07]: Totally.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_07]: But he also, I feel like power was in a lot of just little scrappy incidents all day.
- 25:17[SPEAKER_07]: Like he really wasn't able to keep his nose clean.
- 25:20[SPEAKER_07]: Well, power.
- 25:22[SPEAKER_05]: Your state will power was been racing with other guys and maybe even a little too much.
- 25:27[SPEAKER_07]: So no, I guess this weekend felt more than usual because he was dropping like a stone and Vox was definitely pinpointing on that throughout the race.
- 25:37[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of miserable weekends, Ed Carpenter Racing.
- 25:39[SPEAKER_05]: Ooh, man.
- 25:42[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, Ralph.
- 25:43[SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't get much worse than that.
- 25:45[SPEAKER_07]: No, it does not.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_07]: Rossi having, and you know, it's Rossi's fault for getting that close to the wall, but that's all a photo on X. That wall juts out about an inch.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_07]: So it's just unfortunate.
- 26:00[SPEAKER_05]: That's no, it's not my, it'll wall, especially when you're by yourself.
- 26:05[SPEAKER_07]: There is no excuse, but I feel like it is a little bit of a freak accident, even though it is still his fault.
- 26:11[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's just, our Ed carpenter cars that had lacked pace all weekend.
- 26:15[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm sure this is a weekend.
- 26:16[SPEAKER_07]: They're going to want to forget.
- 26:18[SPEAKER_07]: They just were really non-existent as a whole.
- 26:21[SPEAKER_07]: And we're asked Houston having his issues as well.
- 26:23[SPEAKER_07]: Finishing in Twentieth.
- 26:24[SPEAKER_07]: I guess you can say he moved up two spots.
- 26:26[SPEAKER_07]: That might be a good thing.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_07]: But just the bad weekend, general, for, for ECR.
- 26:32[SPEAKER_07]: Especially with Reena's VK.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, VK.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know how he does it.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_07]: I just don't know how he does it.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_05]: I know he's been amazing this year.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_05]: I thought maybe he was the problem at ECR last year.
- 26:46[SPEAKER_05]: And apparently that's not the case.
- 26:48[SPEAKER_07]: It just makes me wonder.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_07]: I'm super interested to see where he's kind of land after this season.
- 26:53[SPEAKER_07]: You know, there's a real possibility he's back at coin.
- 26:56[SPEAKER_07]: But man, if you're a bigger team, I don't know how you don't want him in your driver lineup.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_07]: He's just a lot of.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_07]: There are a lot of.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_05]: There are not a lot of seats open.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_07]: I know, that's the issue.
- 27:07[SPEAKER_07]: Are not a lot of things open.
- 27:09[SPEAKER_07]: I guess it's a good problem to have for the series, because you've got so many good drivers, but man, when you've got a driver on a team, that it feels like you should be on a better team, but even still, he's able to do this next year in his on-del coin.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_07]: I would not be surprised to see him in a pen skier going to ask a car in twenty seven.
- 27:26[SPEAKER_05]: Whoa, that big of an elevation, huh?
- 27:29[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, if he's able to stay at coin and have these results, the same as being here.
- 27:36[SPEAKER_07]: that I think you, I think you, I think you could make that step up for sure, or even in that and dready seat, if Ericson is unable to perform next season, I think V.K.
- 27:46[SPEAKER_07]: would really fit in well with cool and hurt in Calacurcwood, and that would be a killer driver lineup.
- 27:53[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I was thinking.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_05]: Not necessarily with Ericson, because I think Ericson's really good, but if there is a C open at and dready, that is a possibility.
- 28:02[SPEAKER_05]: really disappointing day, I think for Kirkwood and Herta, they had to have expected to win this race.
- 28:08[SPEAKER_05]: And Palo too, but Palo was pretty much just bad luck.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_05]: His car prop wasn't quite as good as Kirkwoods and Herta anyway, but still disappointing day for those three, but great day for Patto and man, what a fantastic day for Rina's VK and Kiffin Simpson.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's one of the one of the best story lines of this year is seeing how impressive VK has been as a whole.
- 28:32[SPEAKER_07]: And for a dready there, there's no doubt that Cole and her down Kyle Kirkwood had the best cars, but they just fell on the wrong side of the strategy and Kirkwood even spun out on that entering the pit lane and had an issue there, but was able to kind of recalm himself and get back up.
- 28:48[SPEAKER_07]: And he had a great restart to start the race.
- 28:51[SPEAKER_07]: He was up the third and it really looked like there was
- 28:53[SPEAKER_07]: And Johnny cars were we're gonna just actually fly away with this one, but it's a great thing about Indie cars.
- 28:59[SPEAKER_07]: You never know what's gonna happen.
- 29:01[SPEAKER_07]: You never know.
- 29:03[SPEAKER_05]: I was thinking early on even if somebody does outstrategy the Andready cars.
- 29:08[SPEAKER_05]: They're so much better than everybody else.
- 29:10[SPEAKER_05]: It might not matter, but it certainly did matter in the end.
- 29:14[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, yes it did.
- 29:16[SPEAKER_07]: That's what's so great about any cars are a smaller team and you take advantage of a situation.
- 29:22[SPEAKER_07]: You know, there's a good shot for you to have a great result over teams that should arguably be up there.
- 29:27[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what we saw the day.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, Santino Farucci for those who didn't get to see did not even start the race had to have an incident in the morning.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_05]: What do you know about that?
- 29:41[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so we have an incident in the morning warm up where just coming into a corner, a little too hot and lost the rare sled out from under him and pretty much ruined all four wheels.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_07]: I just got absolutely torn off and I know Santino had a little bit of swelling, had a little bit of a hand injury.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_07]: But I think it was a smart call for Larry Ford to make that decision.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_07]: You know, you don't want to put an injured driver back in a car.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm sure Santino himself was a little bit timid.
- 30:06[SPEAKER_07]: I would be it was a pretty big impact.
- 30:07[SPEAKER_07]: And keeping a car out and he didn't qualify well anyway.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_07]: I just think it's smart.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_05]: And to close it out, just one more time, Elijah.
- 30:17[SPEAKER_05]: A plus again for Indicard, fantastic race.
- 30:20[SPEAKER_05]: The crowd was amazing.
- 30:22[SPEAKER_05]: That event is a keeper.
- 30:25[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it absolutely is.
- 30:27[SPEAKER_07]: And I can really cannot wait to see what the TV numbers were because the promotion for this race compared to Iowa was fantastic.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_07]: They did a really great job.
- 30:36[SPEAKER_07]: And when you go to tracks and circuits that want indie car there, it's great to see because those stands were packs today.
- 30:44[SPEAKER_07]: Seeing the podium celebration after the race, thousands of people around the podium, it's exactly what you want to see from indie car.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm really interested to see what that TV number will be because
- 30:54[SPEAKER_07]: Man, that was just a fantastic race to watch.
- 30:59[SPEAKER_05]: Now headed to Laguna Saka, and this is a track where we expect Ganasi to be the favorite, right?
- 31:08[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no doubt Alex Polo has been really quick at Laguna Saka.
- 31:13[SPEAKER_07]: And ready has has had success here occasionally as well.
- 31:16[SPEAKER_07]: But there's no doubt that those Ganasi cars are probably going to be heavy favorites heading into, and Alex Polo as well.
- 31:23[SPEAKER_05]: And we will talk about that this week on the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe.
- 31:28[SPEAKER_05]: We will also talk about the seats that might be available and drivers who might be filling them.
- 31:35[SPEAKER_05]: A little early jump on the silly season Elijah.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's fairly season never ends in Indie Car.
- 31:42[SPEAKER_07]: It is a constantly evolving and morphing thing.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_07]: Finishing out July with the fifth race of the season at Laguna Stacca should be great one and I can't wait to see how it plays out.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_05]: Again, just fantastic race, Susie.
- 31:58[SPEAKER_05]: We were on the edge of our seats the whole time.
- 32:01[SPEAKER_05]: There was racing going on throughout that pack, something we used to never see on street courts.
- 32:06[SPEAKER_05]: Street courses amazing.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks so much to Elijah for coming on and sharing his thoughts on the race and to produce Susie for producing.
- 32:16[SPEAKER_05]: She is the best.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_05]: And thank you so much for listening.
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- 32:58[SPEAKER_05]: And I love you, Susie.