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Is there a perfect time to quit your job? Interview with wedding planner Hannah Rose. · Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney

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Hannah: So I quit my job in, as in I handed my notice in, in
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January, I had to give two months notice my due date to leave.
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My date to leave was the 25th of March.
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And we went into lock down on the 20th of March.
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So Boris told us on the Friday.
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We're shutting the country down.
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I was due to leave the following Wednesday.
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Becca: I'm Becca Pountney, wedding, business, marketing expert,
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speaker, and blogger, and you're listening to the wedding pros
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who are ready to grow podcast.
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I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life
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examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.
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If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion
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and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business, doing what you
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love, then you're in the right place.
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Let's get going with today's episode.
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In today's episode, I'm going to be talking with one of my
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amazing wedding pro members.
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Hannah.
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I first met Hannah at a networking dinner.
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I was speaking at in January, 2020, and we hit it off with our
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shared love of musical theater.
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Then Hannah went on to join my membership and I've worked with her ever since.
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Over the last two years, I've watched her quit her job, navigate
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a global pandemic and grow successful luxury wedding planning.
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And you are going to find her story so inspirational.
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She is the definition of an action taker.
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So for me, she's a dream client.
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So let's get into it.
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Hannah is great to have you on the podcast today.
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Why don't you start by just telling everyone who you are and what you do.
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Hannah: Hello, and thanks for having me first of all, um, I'm, I'm Hannah Rose.
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I'm a wedding planner event manager, wedding coordinator.
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There's many different titles that you could use for me.
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Um, I work mainly in with high-end clients, but I also work directly
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for venues, catering companies for freelance event management.
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Um, for my private work, I mainly work in London and surrounding areas,
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but, um, Happy to go all over the UK.
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So basically I'm there to work with couples to plan their dream day
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and yeah, that's what I'm there
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Becca: for.
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So that sounds incredibly busy.
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So let's go right back to the start and work out how you got to where you are now.
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So take me right back.
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How did you get into the wedding industry in the first place?
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Hannah: So basically it's pretty much all I've ever done.
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Um, but so when I was at school, like you mentioned massive
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love for musical theater.
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When I was, um, doing my GCSE, obviously you start looking at
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colleges, what you want to do.
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Um, I was very much wanted to go into performing arts.
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I wanted to go into musical theater.
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I wanted to go to a musical theater school.
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Um, Yeah, that, that was what I went on to do.
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I went to college, I did performing arts.
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I went and got a job on a holiday camp, singing and dancing entertaining.
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And I then decided I didn't want to work away from home.
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You know, I I'm from Norfolk originally.
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I was working away.
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I was working in Yorkshire, and I was a bit.
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Uh, this is an earning me loads of money.
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I want to earn some money.
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I want to do something a bit different.
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And what I really loved was everything that was happening backstage.
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And when I was, I was in the theater worlld my whole life,
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and I loved everything that was going on behind the scenes.
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Um, so I was like, okay, I want to go into like entertainment management.
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Um, so the behind the scenes and, you know, booking the acts on the
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holiday camps and things like that.
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So that was what I wanted to do.
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So I thought, right.
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I really, I, I want to go home.
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I want to go back and study again.
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So I decided to do a degree in events management, which I had seen when I
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was at school and I was interested in doing so I went back to uni when
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I was 1920, something like that.
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And, um, did a degree in events management.
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I said I was never going to work in weddings.
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And then while I was doing my last year at uni, um, my cousin actually sent
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me an advert for a wedding planner.
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At a hotel that it was looking at for an assistant.
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So I went for the job.
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So I had something alongside my degree and a bit of experience
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in events and, um, got it.
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And I've never looked back.
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I've been in weddings ever since.
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And that was now 12 years.
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Becca: Amazing.
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So you've been in the industry a long time.
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You've worked in venues for a long time.
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If you're honest, you kind of fell into it in a, in a way, even though
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you knew that you loved what you did.
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So during that time working for the venue, what kind of things did you learn that
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have helped you get to where you are now?
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Hannah: I think it's so important.
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To just know the basics.
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So for start the customer service.
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So when I was studying for my degree, everybody else was just, you
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know, having a job to have a job.
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I went and got a job at Marriott hotels, and I worked selling gym memberships and
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at the time, and didn't even go to the gym but I was selling gym memberships.
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But what it taught me was how to sell, how to sell well, how to talk to people.
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You know, I got that job because I worked on holiday camps.
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And I went into my interview and was telling them that I used to dress up
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as an elephant and, you know, they loved that and they loved who I was.
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And, and that's kind of what you need to sell.
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Well, I think that's so important now because if you can't sell yourself,
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you can't progress your business, you need to be able to sell yourself
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or you're not going to get sales and you're not going to make any money and
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you're not going to have a business.
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So think just the basic like that.
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And then there's other basics things like for me as a planner, if you can't
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lay a table or you can't waitress, how can you expect everybody around you?
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To be able to do that.
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You know, if you have a waitress dropout or a wedding, you need
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to be able to take that place and be able to step in and do that.
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And it taught me all the basics.
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You know, it taught me how to go into the kitchen, speak to a chef
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properly, how to run a hot plate, how to, you know, like I say, lay
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a table how to manage a restaurant.
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All these things I had to know, and I had to be able to step in and do it because
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I've worked in small boutique hotels and I've worked in big brand hotels.
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Um, and yeah, it's knowing the basics is, is vital so important.
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Becca: Yeah.
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I think that's really important.
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And I think.
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Yes.
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Everything you did was in weddings, but you talked about your
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holiday park experience as well.
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I think for those people listening, sometimes you start your wedding
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business and you just kind of forget all the stuff that came before.
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And even if, even if that work was in a completely different environment,
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doing something completely different, there will have been things.
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In that job that you can now use in your business.
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And that is what makes you uniquely you.
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And that was what will make you stand out from your competition.
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So if you are listening to this, think back about what you either
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still do on the side or what you did previously and what you can take
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from that, what you learned from that position to take into what you do now.
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Now a little secret for everybody, not only to me and Hannah have musical
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theater in common, but we actually both worked at the same holiday park.
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Not at the same place, or at the same time that would have been fun.
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We have both worked in holiday parks.
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And I think even from that, uh, you mentioned it a little bit,
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Hannah, there are things that you can take even from that.
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And I know I do now, which you take into the.
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You do now.
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So yeah, just an encouragement to people listening, whatever job you've
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had, whether it's dancing or singing or calling bingo or holiday park, you
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know, selling newspapers in the local news agent working as a teacher, there
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will be something in there that you can take and use in your wedding business.
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Yes.
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So you talked about working at the Marriott.
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Talk to me about different venues where you've worked.
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Um, and yeah, it.
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Did you stay at the Marriott forever or have you been in different places?
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Hannah: No, I definitely didn't.
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I was not a fan of them.
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Sorry, Marriott.
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I like, you know, um, no, it's just, um, for me.
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Um, so I've worked, like I said, I've worked in big chain hotels.
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I've worked in small boutique hotels and.
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Working for big brands is very structured.
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Okay.
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So when I was working in sales for selling gym memberships
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at Marriott, I had a script.
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So it was like, okay, you need to say this things like, um, uh, back then
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I actually had brown hair, but I've actually had, uh, red hair for God knows.
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I think as soon as I left the Marriott, because you weren't allowed to
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have red hair working for Marriott.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So you had to have natural colored hair, so like brown
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hair, blonde hair, like that.
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I think it maybe spurred me on to have red hair.
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And it's just maybe not like massively who I am.
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I massively about personality and be who you are.
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I mean, it's probably changed now I worked for Marriott when I was 19, so nearly 15
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years ago, so long time ago, but yeah.
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I then went on.
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So probably a bit of a random story in my life.
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But, um, so I was living in Norwich, I worked at Marriott
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left my, um, finished my degree.
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Um, just before I finished my degree, I got my job.
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So I was where I was doing a full-time degree.
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And then I got a job which is a full-time job, but I persuaded
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them to let me do three days a week alongside my degree as a.
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Wedding planner or assistant to the wedding planner.
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And, um, they said, yes, that's fine.
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You can do that for three months.
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And then the day I left my degree, I literally did my last exam or
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module, whatever I had to do.
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I went bang straight the next week into full time.
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And then found out three months later that the wedding planner was pregnant and
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they'd be like, oh, okay, that's fine.
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Cause Hannah can do it.
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I don't even, I'd only been doing it for about five months.
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Um, so that was a very small boutique hotel, but they did 180 weddings a year,
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which was in say we did two a day and it literally gave me such a kick up the
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bum, like, do I, do I know that, um, to just go and learn
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everything that I possibly could.
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So I was doing about 60% operations and 40% admin.
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And the only reason the admin was 40% is because I physically didn't have
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time because there was so many weddings and there was two of us doing the job.
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So, yeah, that was, that was just absolutely crazy.
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That really, like I say, it gave me an insight into every possible
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point of the, of the, uh, of a hotel.
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Then I met my other half, um, who I've been with nine years.
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And he lived, we used to commute each other.
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He's from Luton, I'm from Norwich and
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he was moving to Birmingham, um, to, uh, for his job.
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And, um, we only been together three months and he said, oh,
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it's a bit far to commute.
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You know, it's two hours as it is, but this is going to be three and a half.
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I was like, okay, well, I'm kind of looking to move to London anyway, because.
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Industry is bigger there.
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And he said, well, you can come to Birmingham with me if you want.
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So we've been together three months, probably seeing each other on less
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like a count on less than two hands.
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How many times I've had actually seen him and I moved to
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Birmingham with him and I joined.
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So that's my little love story though, and I I joined a small, another kind of hotel
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chain, but it was, um, I think they had 10 hotels at the time Corus hotels, brilliant
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chain really enjoyed working for them.
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And it was very much.
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Uh, a small kind of hotel set up and they just had a few hotels.
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So I took on a hotel which had five weddings a year and they said, Hannah,
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we want 20 weddings a year in this place.
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And it was, um, I absolutely loved it and that place will
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always hold a place in my heart.
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And I'm actually really sad because it closed last year.
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Um, Yeah, we did it when I did.
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I stayed there a year and by the time I left, we had 30 weddings a year.
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Um, and it was just basics.
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It was like, the team just had no motivation.
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Everyone had been there years.
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Everybody was just like, no, it's not going to happen.
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People don't want to get married here.
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They were stuck in their ways.
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And I went in, I changed the brochure.
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I implemented packages cause I've come from a package hotel, the one that did
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108 to in the year, it was all package.
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Uh, low package, medium package, high package.
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That was how it was.
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You booked the package you wanted.
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Um, and then you'd add your add ons.
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That's what we did.
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We, we created three packages.
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They were not doing wedding open days.
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Um, they weren't, you know, they weren't marketing themselves properly.
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It had a really bad reputation with the local communities.
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So we invited the local community in for afternoon tea and we redecorated and yeah.
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Did all these things.
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Done really well.
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Um, then, you know, the area managers and kind of started to get to know who I was.
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So I was sent down to London to do a presentation on how
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I'd transformed this hotel.
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So I was promoted.
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I was then put in charge of two hotels and yeah.
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It kind of went from there.
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I then, um, left there.
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I decided, right.
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I want to work more in luxury hotels.
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So I want to work for a accor for a beautiful, um, four-star luxury
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hotel in Stratford, upon Avon.
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And so, yeah, I then experienced a suppose a more high-end way of working.
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More higher budgets, but at the same time, it just kind of back to the Marriott way.
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So you had to wear a uniform and I had to wear a scarf around my neck and
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I had to be at my desk by 10:00 AM.
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Whereas the previous place loved me so much.
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It did what did what I wanted, you know, and rock up
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Becca: at what I wanted the days I wanted,
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Hannah: as long as I got the job done.
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And at the end of the day, I was massively exceeding myself.
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So yeah.
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I suppose that's where the self-employed comes in me when I was like, okay, I like
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to meet, like, Marriott's probably a, you know, a brilliant brand to work for
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as is Accor but it's very structured and some people love structure and I don't.
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So I suppose that was where it kind of started to come from that.
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Eventually I wanted to work for myself.
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Um, I then went on to work for my last job.
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So my last job.
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I went to, Whittlebury park, which is an amazing resort just outside
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of London, about an hour away.
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If, if you know the UK, that's the best way to describe it.
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It's like towards Milton Keynes way.
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Um, and, um, yeah, huge place we've got, they have like 50 meeting rooms,
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five different function rooms for weddings, like absolutely massive.
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I suppose what I kind of forgot to mention was back when I then
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joined chorus, I started to do a bit more corporate events as well.
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So what I actually went on to do, um, when I went to a core,
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again, it was, it was mainly.
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When I joined, um, Whittlebury park.
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I then, um, started as like a supervisor and then worked my way up and ended
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up being the events manager there.
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And I had a team of 10, um, and that was purely in corporate.
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So I was then doing all the corporate events, working for people
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like Jaguar land Rover national grid and Buckingham university.
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some massive brands who were coming to us as to Martins and really cool people
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with massive budgets for these big.
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Um, so, yeah, and that was, um, my last job, which taught me to work in a, getting
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even bigger luxury, bigger budgets, people that have a hell of a lot of money because
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it was corporate and also managing a team that was, uh, uh, a very new thing for me.
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Like I say, team of 10, and that was, uh, That was a challenge,
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but it taught me a lot.
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Becca: Amazing.
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You've clearly had a huge amount of experience.
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You clearly loved working in all these different venues at all these
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different weddings and corporate events.
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Now, when we met, uh, in January, 2020, you were on the
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cusp of going self-employed.
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So what was it, despite loving all of this stuff that made you think now's the time
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for me to take the leap and own my own.
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Hannah: So it always be my dream, like, oh wait, like, well I say, oh,
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like I think it always kind of came to me when I ever went to these big
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brands and say, okay, what is it that I, that I'm not enjoying here?
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And it was the structure and I just don't work.
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Uh, under somebody else telling me what to do, I suppose say telling
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me I have to be on my desk at nine.
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So I'd always kind of, I think I've always had my, my dad was
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self-employed his whole life.
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I felt like I massively get that from him.
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Um, I always felt like I was born to be self-employed.
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So it's always been at the back of my mind, but I never, ever thought
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i'd have been able to do this early.
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I'd always said by the time I was like mid thirties, I'd like to go.
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Self-employed maybe towards my forties.
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Um, and I went self-employed when I was 30.
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Um, and it was, and it was because, you know, I cut down my time at Whittlebury.
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I knew I'd done my time.
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I had the best team.
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My manager was amazing.
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Still really have high respect for him.
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Um, It got to the point where I was like, I feel like I'm done here.
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I'm not, I'm not the kind of person that manages I could manage the team,
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but my full-time job was managing a team of 10 and I was kind of moving
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away from actually planning events and that's not what I wanted to do.
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And I was like, okay, I want to still manage a team.
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I want to do well.
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I want to earn money bottom line and.
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You know, I want to go and do a bit of weddings.
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I want to do a bit of corporate.
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How can I do this?
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How can I find a job that incorporates all of this?
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I actually debated going and being a hotel manager.
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Um, for again, I would have done a boutique hotel that I thought, okay, so
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I can, I can get involved in the sales.
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I can get involved in the ops.
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I can run the hotel, how I want to run it.
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And then I was.
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Or I could just do my own thing and I'd always see, I'd always felt a bit
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like I used to, especially when I was at Whittlebury, especially working for
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a Accor, people would say to me, okay, are, you know, I want this wedding,
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I want this event, but we'd really.
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It all planned.
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We'd always kind of say like, you know, you can add that service
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on, but it's an extra charge.
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We can recommend supplies for you, et cetera, et cetera.
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Um, but we, you know, it's not really something we do need
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to hire an external planner.
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So when I went to the boutique hotel, We did kind of, I did
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do that because that's just me.
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If a couple came to me, I was, I had, you know, I could, I had a lot more
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flexibility, so I could say to a couple.
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Yeah, no problem.
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I'll book that for you.
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Yeah.
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I'll get that sorted for you and, and get a lot more involved in the planning
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and the timings and the suppliers.
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But I wasn't supposed to, as a hotel coordinator, I shouldn't have really
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done that, but that was just me.
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And so I kind of felt that that aspect was missing and I'd speak to other hotels
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and other coordinators they'd say, oh no, no, we don't get involved in that.
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We don't get involved in this.
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And like I say, when I went to the big brands, I wasn't allowed to
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get involved in that kind of thing.
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So I felt like that was missing.
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I had the experience and doing it um, I enjoyed doing it.
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So.
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I just thought, you know what?
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I feel like it's time to go out on my own.
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And then I am in summer of 2019.
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I met a fabulous owner from a fabulous catering company or
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based in Northamptonshire um, I spoke to him and I said, look, I
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really want to go self-employed.
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Um, but I need, I need something to fall back.
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I need like something I'm getting busy.
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I kind of, sorry.
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I skipped a part.
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I then when I was at Whittlebury felt like something was missing and set up at the
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time it was Complete Rose Events, so I was doing it alongside my full-time job.
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So I was going to the office Monday to Friday for my full-time job.
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And then I was, um, after work then doing like my emails
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and I was taking to be fair.
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I was taking bookings, I was doing on the day management, but I wasn't
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taking any full planning because I didn't think it was fair on couples to
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say, oh yeah, you can book me for full planning, but, um, I'm not available
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Monday to Friday nine till six.
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So.
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Uh, that I just offered on the day management.
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So I went to this owner of this catering company and I said, look,
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I'm getting, I've started this business alongside my full-time job.
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I want to do it.
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Full-time but I need something else.
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And he said, yeah, of course you can come and freelance and do event management.
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So I went and did literally from the, for the rest of the few months before I
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quit my job, I went and worked for him every Saturday, managing of weddings.
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I was doing my full-time job.
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I was still taking inquiries and doing my business and creating my
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website and all of these things.
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And I got to the point where 2020 was so packed with business.
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I was like, Yes.
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and I remember being on a plane, going to New York in December, 2019, and I'd
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had a few gins and I'd watched a star is born and I had, so I was like, this is it.
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I'm going to do it.
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I'm going to quit.
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I'm going to go back to work in Janaury and I'm going to quit.
20:36
And that was that moment then I
20:38
Becca: absolutely love that.
20:39
So there'll be lots of people listening who are kind of in that
20:43
position right now, so that they're doing a job and then they're
20:46
running their business on the side.
20:48
And they're thinking about.
20:50
Kind of quitting their job, but it feels really, really scary, but I love
20:54
what you did is you kind of put in a security blanket with, uh, the catering
20:58
company, uh, and that kind of thing.
21:01
However, let's be honest.
21:03
We're going to take you from where you were on that plane.
21:06
You made your plan, you had your backup and then something unexpected happened.
21:12
You quit your job.
21:13
And then all of a sudden there was a global pandemic.
21:16
Tell me about.
21:17
Hannah: So I quit my job in, as in I handed my notice in, in
21:21
January, I had to give two months notice, um, my due date to leave.
21:25
My date to leave was the 25th of March.
21:28
And we went into Lock Down on the 20th of March.
21:30
So Boris told us on the Friday night we're shutting down the country down.
21:35
I was due to leave the following Wednesday.
21:39
It was like, I'm, I'm not gonna lie.
21:41
I was one of those people that was, like I said, worked in hotels for 12 years.
21:46
Everybody was panicking.
21:47
Everybody was like, oh my God, like the world is going to be shut down.
21:50
I didn't really even flag about COVID to be honest until like March, I
21:54
don't know about anybody else, but I didn't really listen to the news.
21:57
I didn't really think a lot of it.
21:59
And I remember a couple of weeks before being locked down.
22:01
My other half was working in America and he was like, this is getting pretty bad.
22:04
They're sending me home.
22:05
And I was like, oh, It must be bad.
22:07
They're sending us home.
22:09
And I remember everybody panicking the week before we locked down
22:12
that they're going to look us down.
22:13
They're going to shut the hotel.
22:14
And I said, guys, I've worked in hotels for 12 years.
22:17
They don't even shut the hotels when there's like foots of snow outside.
22:21
There's no way they're going to shut a hotel for a bit of flu.
22:24
That was always my mindset.
22:26
So it wasn't until the catering company called me a couple of days before and they
22:31
were like Hannah we are losing weddings.
22:34
We're losing weddings.
22:35
We're not going to need you on these dayes, he says, he says, and I was
22:37
like, okay, well, we'll keep you updated, but it's not looking good.
22:41
Everyone's panicking.
22:42
I was like, okay.
22:43
I don't know what they're all panicking about it.
22:44
It'd be fine.
22:45
So it wasn't literally until we locked down that it hit me
22:49
that this was actually real.
22:50
I don't remember the day.
22:54
Before Boris announcement.
22:56
When we all knew it was going to happen sitting in the canteen at work.
22:59
And literally just like breaking down, I was just crying because I
23:02
was like, what am I going to do?
23:04
Like, I can't now then obviously not going to let me stay because they feel
23:09
like they're going to have to close.
23:11
They don't need me.
23:12
And.
23:14
Well, all of my work was then starting to be postponed that
23:16
all the catering work had gone.
23:18
All my private work was they were all contacted me to postpone and it wasn't
23:22
until then I think that that final week from what I can remember, that it was.
23:27
That it dawned on me that what was happening
23:30
Becca: now for most people at that point, they would have stayed
23:33
where you were the canteen at that point of breakdown thinking, oh
23:36
my goodness, it's all gone wrong.
23:38
This was a terrible idea.
23:39
I should've stayed in my normal job.
23:41
Even my backup plan hasn't worked out.
23:43
But I know for a fact, because I remember that time very, very well
23:46
that that's not what you did at all.
23:48
So just talk us through.
23:50
What you did next, how you kept yourself going through.
23:53
COVID how you bought income in and how you use that time to benefit your business.
23:59
Hannah: I'll tell you what I did on Monday morning when everybody was like,
24:03
wahey we don't have to go to work.
24:05
I got out my laptop.
24:06
My other half actually took over.
24:08
Which is very annoying.
24:09
So I'd already set it up, like my office to be like, oh, I'm going self-employed.
24:13
And so we've taken that over because he needs three screens and blah, blah boring.
24:17
And so I found somewhere else to work from in my house.
24:21
I got my laptop out.
24:22
I got myself up, I went to my desk at 9:00 AM, as I usually would.
24:25
I cracked on and I joined your group and I joined, um, some other groups on Facebook
24:31
and I was like, right, what can I do?
24:33
So I put out there that I would do these like free.
24:37
Lives on Instagram to help people.
24:39
And I got really up to speed with what the, what the actual
24:43
rules were and the guidance.
24:45
and I just kept at it.
24:46
I just kept really in tune with what was happening.
24:49
Um, and, and, and everything else at that point for me, COVID was the
24:55
best thing that ever happened to my business, which sounds crazy.
24:58
But I didn't understand, everybody was offering free training everybody, and
25:02
I wouldn't have been in a position at that time to have been paying coaches.
25:07
To help me.
25:08
And I was literally signing up to like every business coaches, you know, free
25:14
sessions on, you know, how you can cope and how to do this and how to do that.
25:18
And literally there was so much stuff that I didn't know.
25:20
I didn't have, I was one of those people.
25:23
In March, 2020, if you'd have said to me, who's your ideal client?
25:26
I would have said, well, people that are getting engaged and now somebody says that
25:30
to me, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
25:32
So if you're sitting there now and your ideal client is somebody who's
25:34
engaged, please talk to Becca.
25:36
because that is not an ideal client.
25:39
I didn't know this.
25:40
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know this, I understand massively about branding, and,
25:45
you know, I'd called myself complete rose events, but that was because that popped
25:48
into my head on a trip to Norwich one day.
25:50
And, and my branding was done by a guy that I was in a band with.
25:55
And, you know, it was it.
25:57
Yeah.
25:58
Nothing was nothing fit properly.
26:01
And, uh, you know, I was doing social media as and when, but I hadn't really
26:04
thought about what do I want to do when I had 12 years background in hotels?
26:08
Like I know hotels like the back of my hand.
26:10
So it's like, for me, it was the other way around.
26:12
I had all this experience.
26:14
I didn't need to be able to taught, how to plan a wedding or how to work
26:17
in a hotel or how to work with venues.
26:20
I needed to be taught everything else.
26:22
Like how.
26:23
Yeah.
26:24
Find an ideal client and how to use Pinterest I'd never used but I thought
26:27
Pinterest was where I searched, how to design my nails the next week, you know,
26:31
and, um, blogging I was blogging regularly and SEO is, is huge and I'm still
26:37
learning SEO and all of these things,
26:41
yeah, I just, I just spent, I mean, I do not remember being bored in
26:47
lock down and I definitely didn't bake banana cake, banana cake.
26:52
Becca: I don't think any self-employed person was bored during a lockdown.
26:56
I feel like we all just went like full out, but like I said, at the
26:59
beginning, you're such an action taker.
27:01
And instead of panicking, you realize you could use that time to your advantage.
27:05
And while you may not have written it that way, if you look back, actually,
27:09
that did really benefit your business.
27:11
So you absorbed yourself in learning and learning.
27:15
Because again, what happens and most people listening may know this as well
27:19
is you're really good at what you do.
27:20
You are really good at planning.
27:21
Weddings.
27:22
People are really good at making cakes or designing flowers, but
27:25
they're just, they just don't understand the business element of it.
27:28
So.
27:29
That's what you up-skilled
27:30
Hannah: in and don't, and don't get me wrong.
27:32
Like people are listening here financially.
27:34
Absolute struggle.
27:35
But I do want to add that I was very lucky because Whittlebury did rehire
27:39
me and I furloughed me until August.
27:42
So financially, because obviously we were saving money as well.
27:46
There was a lot of things, you know, you weren't going out, it was spending money.
27:50
So we'll just add that in when people are like, well, how did you live?
27:54
Like you do have anybody that wants to quit their job.
27:57
I'm not telling you to just go and quit your job because that's impossible.
27:59
But there are ways around it.
28:01
Like if you're a photographer go and get some dates secured for
28:05
freelance, go be a second shooter.
28:06
Like, make sure you have got something else or just go down
28:09
to like two days a week or have something, but maybe something.
28:13
Well, even if you've got something you don't care about as much like the,
28:16
again, when I was saying I was furloughed and then I had enough business, then
28:21
thankfully, the world was opening up a slightly little bit in like August 20, 20.
28:25
So I did some summer weddings.
28:27
I was doing some freelancing and then I went and worked at Royal mail over winter
28:30
for three months, because two days a week, Because it was earning me enough money
28:35
and make sure you know, how much money you need to get by and make sure you are
28:40
earning that some somehow, whether it's freelancing, whether it, because everybody
28:44
in the industry can freelance at the end of the day and every wedding supplier
28:47
right now is so bogged down and busy.
28:50
Go and freelance for them work out?
28:53
What else are you good out?
28:53
I then started doing social media for other businesses, because I was like,
28:57
I'm really good at social media and a lot of people are really rubbish at
29:00
social media, so I'll help them with their social media and make some money.
29:03
So I think you just need to think about.
29:06
Becca: Yeah, absolutely.
29:07
That's really important.
29:08
So during that initial time, I remember you coming to the realization that
29:13
actually you weren't for everyone and you wanted to move into more
29:16
of the luxury end of the market.
29:18
And what did you do in your business during that time to take yourself
29:22
from complete rose events to where you are now to start trying
29:26
to get into that luxury market?
29:28
Hannah: Yeah.
29:29
So first up I hate the word luxury.
29:32
Sorry.
29:33
Becca, no, it's just.
29:36
Yeah.
29:36
I don't know why it's thought of, it's just, it's like higher budget, you know?
29:40
I don't think you need to be like, I'm not luxury.
29:42
I'm a Norfolk girl.
29:43
And, and when I first, this is the thing, is that when I was
29:46
like, I want to work in luxury.
29:48
I felt like I had to be luxury, let me post that I've gone, Yeah,
29:51
I've got some Tiffany jewelry.
29:52
Let me post that I'm going to Tiffany to get my jewelry cleaned.
29:56
Then I suddenly realized I need to be luxury.
29:59
I just want to work with people that have higher budgets.
30:02
You don't need to be luxury.
30:03
You don't need to be a luxury business.
30:06
You just need to push yourself to work with higher budgets.
30:08
So I put together some shoots with venues I've wanted to work with,
30:13
because for me also, it wasn't even necessarily about working with high-end.
30:17
I wanted to work.
30:18
Hotels.
30:19
And I've wanted to work with the Savoy, Mandarin Oriental, all of these places.
30:23
So I plan shoots with them.
30:25
And when I say I planned a shoot, I didn't just email them and say,
30:28
hi guys, can I come and do a shoot?
30:30
I went in, I met them and it was a great, this is the other benefit of COVID
30:34
is that everybody had nothing to do.
30:37
All these hotels.
30:38
I was emailing them like, hi, I'm a wedding planner.
30:40
I'd love to come in to meet you.
30:41
And they're like, yeah, great.
30:42
Come and meet us because they had the time.
30:44
Um, so we'd go in, I'd meet them.
30:46
I'd have a chat with them.
30:48
I'd build a relationship with them and then I'd be like, oh, it'd
30:51
be really nice to shoot with you.
30:52
Let's do it.
30:52
And they'd be like, yeah, great.
30:55
We haven't got anything else going on.
30:56
Obviously now it is a little bit more different, but you can still do that.
31:00
You know, winter times in quieter a month, you can still get them and you
31:04
can still build those relationships.
31:06
So I just kind of, you know, I used that time to build relationships with venues.
31:11
And then I also reached out to a lot of luxury suppliers.
31:14
I just used the word myself, didn't I know high-end suppliers.
31:17
So people I knew that were working with people with a hundred grand
31:21
budgets and the likes of the Savoy.
31:23
I found out who these people were and I contacted them.
31:26
Yeah.
31:26
I'm not going to lie.
31:26
I had a lot of people that just ignored me, but I also
31:29
had the, some amazing people.
31:32
Um, people like John Nassari absolutely amazing photographer.
31:36
And he was like, yeah, let's jump on a call.
31:38
And he called me and I was so happy.
31:40
I got to book him for a wedding this year because he was one of the first people
31:44
that like actually took me seriously.
31:46
And didn't look at me and say, well, you're already working with people that
31:49
are, you know, got 30 grand budgets.
31:51
Um, um, uh, don't have any interest in you.
31:54
He gave me the time of the day and he gave me really good advice.
31:58
Um, and there was quite a few people like that.
32:00
Um, They took me seriously and just, um, would happily go on a zoom call with me
32:06
and say, well, you need to do this and you need to do this and you need to look
32:09
at this and you need to look at that.
32:11
Yeah, it was just networking just yeah.
32:14
Helped.
32:15
Becca: Definitely.
32:16
Absolutely.
32:17
And you know that I'm big on networking now.
32:19
You also rebranded as well.
32:21
You changed your business name.
32:22
Tell me about that.
32:23
Hannah: Yeah.
32:23
So people buy people at the end of the day, and this was Louise Perry, who
32:28
is another incredible wedding planner.
32:30
She is somebody I'm very aspire to.
32:33
Um, she said to me, but you know, I had a meeting with her and she said, You are the
32:38
face you are the name people by people.
32:40
So who is complete rose events?
32:42
Nobody used to remember either.
32:43
I'd go to, if somebody introduced me, I'll never remember.
32:46
I'll always never forget, go into a venue.
32:48
I'd known this venue really, really well.
32:51
And they just sat and there was somebody else there and they introduced me and
32:54
they're like, oh, this is Hannah Rose.
32:56
But, and I was like, oh, Hannah Rose, the wedding planner.
33:00
And I was like, oh, it's complete Rose events.
33:02
Like we used to always have to correct people and say oh
33:04
yeh it's complete Rose events
33:05
They're just like, oh, it's this is Hannah from rose events
33:07
or they always got it wrong.
33:09
Um, so I was like, well, I'm just me.
33:11
I'm just going to brand myself as, as me.
33:14
I'm me, And not only do I just plan people, you know, I don't just
33:18
book people to plan their weddings.
33:19
I don't just book people to on the day management, but
33:21
I do freelance work as well.
33:23
So when a venue books me to come and do freelance they are booking me Hannah Rose.
33:27
So it makes sense.
33:28
Yeah I was hannah Rose, wedding and events is actually my tagline, my
33:33
brand is just Hannah Rose, why not?
33:36
Becca: I love that.
33:37
And you also, at that time, decided to invest some money in
33:41
getting that website branded.
33:43
Why did you do that?
33:46
Hannah: Just because I feel like for as a planner, I mean, you really
33:49
need to look into your ideal clients.
33:51
Whoever's listening to this, but as a planner people, the
33:55
I'm one of the first points.
33:56
So for me, it's really important to connect with venues because a lot of
34:00
people will go and find their venue and then say, oh, we really need a planner.
34:02
And they'll then recommend a planner.
34:04
But also there's people that the first thing they do is find a planner.
34:08
So people that I'm targeting who don't have time because of their jobs,
34:13
their families, they don't have time to be looking around for somebody.
34:17
So they will just go onto Google and type in wedding planner in London,
34:21
wedding planner in, you know, Birmingham wedding planner in Northamptonshire,
34:26
they're not going to be looking around.
34:27
They're not going to be going to Wedding Fairs.
34:29
They're not going to be going on directories.
34:31
They are just going to be trying to find.
34:34
Um, online.
34:34
So for me, my first port of call for people is nine times out of 10, my
34:39
website, so for me, I just knew that that was really important, but that
34:43
took me a while to grasp as well.
34:45
And I'm not gonna, I tried directories, I've tried magazines and stuff.
34:49
Yeah.
34:50
It didn't work for me.
34:50
It's the same with shoots.
34:51
The reason I do shoots is to build a connection with a venue.
34:54
It's not necessarily to have content, good content because from, from
34:58
weddings, I mean it helps content.
35:00
You have to have good content, you know, on your Instagram.
35:02
But, um, yeah, I think you need to really think about the reason
35:06
that you're doing things and where these people are coming from.
35:10
Becca: Yeah, absolutely.
35:11
Now I've seen you go on this journey and it's been an absolute privilege
35:15
to watch you grow and change and take action and do all these things.
35:22
And there'll be people listening that struggle with that.
35:24
So you've been part of my.
35:27
Um, for the last couple of years, I know you've been part of different
35:30
communities, um, on Facebook and different associations as well.
35:34
And you've invested in that.
35:35
So for someone that's sitting there thinking, I just don't want
35:38
to invest in anything like that.
35:39
I'd rather just get on and do it myself.
35:40
What have you learned from being part of both my communities and other
35:44
communities and why do you think that's an important aspect of what.
35:49
Hannah: I think it is important to invest, but I think it's important
35:51
to invest in the right people.
35:53
If you join a membership group and you're like this just isn't for me, like, if
35:58
you feel like the person that runs.
36:01
And then, then just then leave it.
36:03
Like there's no point investing your time in something that without people
36:06
like, I'm still part of Becca's group, because I think Becca's fabulous.
36:11
She helps me a lot.
36:12
You know, I'm part of Bernadette Chapman's group, because she's
36:15
helped me massively, you know, with difficult situations, she knows how
36:18
to because she was a planner herself.
36:21
So I think it's really important, you know, I've had other coaches and
36:24
I just haven't clicked with them.
36:25
They're not, they don't have the same ethos as me.
36:28
You know, as you know, they believe different things to me.
36:30
I think that's really important, but I think it's important.
36:33
You don't need to go and invest, you know, I've never spent thousands with, with
36:36
a coach I've only just joined kind of memberships, and I've done courses here
36:39
and there, um, one to ones with Becca, things like that, but I think, um, yeah,
36:44
do do do it with people that you think,
36:48
uh, right for you in your business.
36:50
And if they're not then, and you've tried it at the end of the day,
36:54
but there are cheaper ways to do things as well, like membership.
36:57
So you can go and join, you know, like Becca's monthly Facebook
37:01
group, you know, that kind of thing, because you're a community because
37:04
you can then talk to other suppliers and, you know, things like that.
37:08
I think you, I don't, I think people think, oh, to invest in a business
37:12
coach, I need to go and spend thousands to do their 10 week course.
37:15
And that was difficult, when the point I was in so when COVID was happening,
37:20
everybody was doing these free courses.
37:22
Everybody was pushing there then paid courses, which were very expensive because
37:27
everybody was suffering because of COVID.
37:29
They all needed to make money.
37:30
And I was at the point where I was.
37:33
Oh, my God.
37:33
And I remember the amount of conversations I had with my other half.
37:35
Like, I need to join this course.
37:37
It's 5,000 pounds.
37:38
Can we afford?
37:39
And he's like Hannah are you joking, no.
37:42
And then even I've rang Becca before, and, but like, Becca, I feel like I
37:46
need to do this course and she's like, you don't, you don't need to do it.
37:49
So I think if you ever feel like you're put in a position where
37:53
somebody is making you feel like you need to do this because you're not
37:56
good enough, unless you do it, then.
37:59
Because that's not the right away.
38:01
Becca: That's a sales tactic,
38:04
Hannah: as Becca says, it's smoke and mirrors.
38:06
I love that saying from
38:07
Becca: Becca it's all smoke and mirrors.
38:09
Yeah.
38:10
That's so true.
38:10
It's so important to find someone, if you are going to work with
38:13
someone and these communities, are great places and can be great.
38:16
To grow your business and to learn from, but you need to find one
38:19
that's the right fit and do your research and ask other people that
38:22
are already in the community as well.
38:24
If you, if you meet people or if you meet people ask them if they are part of
38:27
things, cause they'll give you a really honest answer about what they think.
38:30
Okay.
38:31
So you've been in self-employed, uh, what we've talked about,
38:34
a lot of the highlights and the great things you've done.
38:36
What would you say is kind of the biggest struggle for you being
38:40
self-employed over just working for.
38:44
Hannah: Um, I think it is, It can't be the money thing because, um, I was
38:48
actually, I was talking to another couple of suppliers about this.
38:52
It's really easy when you're working for a venue when a magazine comes
38:56
along or I dunno, you want to do a Facebook ad or something like that.
38:59
It's not your money.
39:00
So it's so easy to just go, oh yeah, we'll trial that.
39:05
We'll try that.
39:05
But when it's your own money, It's really.
39:08
I dunno.
39:09
I just find it really difficult to part with my money if I don't think it's
39:12
the right thing, but then maybe that could be a strength because in, or it
39:16
could be a positive because in a way you're not just, you know, you're not
39:20
just throwing money at anything but the same time when you're working in venue.
39:23
It's great.
39:23
Cause you can try it.
39:24
Yeah.
39:24
That works really well.
39:25
So we'll do that magazine again or, yeah, but when you're self-employed
39:28
to have the funds to just go yeah.
39:30
We'll just try all that.
39:31
That is difficult.
39:33
Making that decision.
39:34
I'm not the best decision maker.
39:35
I'm not going to lie.
39:36
It's one of my weaknesses, um, making decisions on things I've really
39:40
struggled with because at the end of the day, if I didn't make the decision.
39:44
No one else is going to make a decision.
39:46
You know, I have to make a decision.
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If I put that money into that advert, that's 500 pounds and
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it doesn't give me any business.
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That's my fault.
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It's nobody else's fault.
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It's not my fault, but you know, I've made that decision.
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I've lost that money, whereas when I was working in a Hotel, but I'll okay.
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Well, we just won't do that again.
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No biggie, but yeah, I think that's, that's the big difficulty.
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I think also it's difficult is that.
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It's like I say, like you it's your business.
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So if you know the amount of times I say to people, if I do
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it, no one else is going to do it.
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So if I go on a holiday and I get an email inquiry, come
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through, who's going to do it, me.
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If nobody, if I'm not there, and I think that's the biggest thing
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that people don't understand.
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It doesn't matter how high up you are in your job.
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I know I've had this conversation with so many people who are in high,
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big jobs, big, important jobs in the company, and like, be you'll never
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understand unless self-employed because there's always someone that you can
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put your out of office to when you go on holiday but I don't have that.
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Becca: Yeah, that is so, so true.
40:47
So one of the things that I know lots of people struggle with and, um, owning
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your own business is staying motivated.
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And like we talked about earlier during COVID, you could have been
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really de-motivated and I think we all had times of motivation.
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De-motivation what do you personally do when you're struggling,
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owning your own business?
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Maybe things aren't going well, maybe things are going
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well, you're just too busy.
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What do you do to stay motivated and to keep going?
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Hannah: Yeah, I think that's so true.
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I think there always are moments where you have, where you're just not motivated.
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And I kind of feel that you just need to rock with it a little bit
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because sometimes you have a day or week when you're a bit unmotivated.
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Just go with it.
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If you want to have just have a bit of time out, it probably
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means that you're probably burned out and need a bit of time out.
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Um, if it drags on longer than that.
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Yeah, I think you need, I know, I remember, um, having a right good old
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cry to you last year, Becca, actually on one of our sessions, um, because I'd been
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feeling unmotivated for a couple of weeks.
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So I did some exercises.
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Um, I did, um, probably Becca probably told me to do this.
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I got my whiteboard out and wrote everything about what
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about like how far have I come?
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I think you, it sounds so like people say this all the time.
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It genuinely does work.
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Look at how far you've come.
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Like from nothing.
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You've built it up, like what you've achieved.
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Um, you know, I've just, I, one wedding planner of the year, um, uh,
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for south England a few months ago.
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And I think you have to look at things like that, and that's huge.
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Like I, didn't never in a million years expected to win that.
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So I need to look at that and go, wow, that's a big achievement.
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So, you know, You need to be the way that I got there.
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It was from being motivated.
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So you've got to pick it up, you know, and things like I've got sticky notes
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all over my wall, right in front of me with things I've got coming up.
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I'm going to, to Spain with my girls in July.
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Um, as in my friends, I didn't have children.
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I'm going to Italy with my other half in October, I'm going to see Chicago in July.
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Let things like this.
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I'm like, yeah, these are all really nice things that are happening in my life
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and then the nice things that happen in the business, because let's all face it.
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There's the good things.
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And then there's the really rubbish things.
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There's like the nice cities.
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And then there's the things that I cannot be bothered to
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do and procrastinate all day.
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So, you know, think about those nice things you've got coming up in those
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businesses, in your business, those nice network and events, or there's nice away
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days, or, you know, that venue, uh, that you've been wanting to work at for ages.
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You've got a wedding booked there.
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I think that's the best way.
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I think sometimes you just beat yourself up too much, not being motivated.
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And I think when you're feeling unmotivated in your business, the position
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I was in last year, when I felt really down was I was not motivated in anything.
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And I think that's when you need to like, reach out to somebody else.
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But some days I have where I'm not motivated in my business, but
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I'm really motivated in the gym.
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So I'll just go do a really good gym session or I could be the opposite
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and totally unmotivated at the gym, but I, all I keep thinking about
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is new ideas for the business.
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So I think.
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You just need to take some time out or yeah.
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Becca: Yeah.
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Really, really helpful advice.
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Now before we finish, we are going to do my quick fire quiz, which I
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do with all my interview guests.
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So I'm going to give you two options.
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You've just got to give me your first response so we can get to
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know you a little bit better.
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Okay.
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Are you ready?
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Uh,
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Hannah: yeah, I'm ready.
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I'm ready.
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Becca: Okay.
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Here we go.
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Would you prefer to have a Barn wedding or Manor house wedding Manor
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House do you prefer live music or.
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Live music.
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Are you light and airy or dark and moody, darker, moody summer wedding or winter?
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Summer chocolate cake or lemon cake lemon, Instagram
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Hannah: or Facebook,
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Becca: Instagram wedding fair, or wedding directory.
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So
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Hannah: netiher
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Becca: Early riser or night owl.
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Early riser, work too hard or easily distracted, too hard.
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Well done.
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You survived the quickfire wedding quiz, Hannah, before we finish our
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interview today, I'd love for you to just share again, a question I ask
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all my interview guests, what is the one piece of advice you wish you knew
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earlier on in your wedding business?
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Hannah: Oh, well, I think we've touched on this already.
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It's just like, like network work hard.
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Realize that you never going to, you can't just put your business down,
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it's you, it's your business and it's always going to be in your head.
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You are always going to have ideas.
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Um, yeah.
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I'd, I'd say that my biggest thing would be to learn all areas.
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Exactly as I touched on.
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When I first went self employed, there was so much stuff I didn't know.
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And always remember that you're always learning every day is a learning day.
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So yeah.
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Make sure that you just invest in yourself, investing in learning.
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Yeah, keep going, keep going, because just visualize where you want to be.
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And you've got to work hard to get there.
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I'm not where I want to be at.
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I'm still fighting the good fight to get there.
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So just keep going.
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Just keep going, be more
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Becca: Hannah and take action, because you can learn all the
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things, but if you don't take action.
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Hannah: Yeah, don't be scared.
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Like I see so many people, I just don't have the confidence to just have
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the bloody confidence in yourself.
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You have to be confident in yourself.
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Love yourself.
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Cause you.
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That's the basis.
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Love yourself, have confidence in yourself.
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And it'll just grow from then, because what is the worst anyone's going to
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say to you is no reach out to a venue.
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They say no.
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Oh, well, their loss, you know, Absolutely
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Becca: love that.
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Hannah, it's been an absolute pleasure.
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If people want to find out more about you, where's the best place to contact you?
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Hannah: Probably Instagram it's at Hannah Rose weddings or my website
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www.hannahroseweddings.co.uk
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Becca: thanks for your time.
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