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Well...That's Frightening. · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: Well, that's frightening. It's one more Thing. I'm strong and
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  Speaker 1: getty a bit of a different One More Thing podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: We don't usually do breaking news for obvious reasons, because
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  Speaker 1: this is not the radio show. This is a podcast
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  Speaker 1: that you'll be listening to. I don't know when in
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  Speaker 1: my future, later today, tomorrow, next week, five years from now.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be kind of weird five years from now. But emotionally,
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  Speaker 1: we're all reacting to these pictures that the Sheriff's department
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  Speaker 1: there in Tucson just released, apparently the doorcam thing. I
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  Speaker 1: was able to get some images of the scumbag that
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  Speaker 1: abducted Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy Guthrie at the home, and
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  Speaker 1: they've released the pictures now, and you know, we're there
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  Speaker 1: was some speculation. Actually I heard, who's the guy that
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  Speaker 1: went to work for the FBI and is back to
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  Speaker 1: doing the podcast now, Bongino. I heard Bongino, and you
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  Speaker 1: know he's got experience in this. He was on Sean
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  Speaker 1: Hannity last night and he gave three different situations that
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  Speaker 1: could have happened, like professional kidnappers with a plan. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't think it was that somebody committing some sort of
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  Speaker 1: half assed kidnapping who wasn't very good at it. And
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  Speaker 1: then three something completely different, like they broke into the
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  Speaker 1: house and she found him and they accidentally killed her
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  Speaker 1: or whatever something like that. But looking at these images
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  Speaker 1: now that they've just put out to describe him, it's
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  Speaker 1: a guy in a mask, like a ski mask, straight
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  Speaker 1: out of a freaking horror film. I mean, just like
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  Speaker 1: it was designed by Hollywood to be scary. Black gloves,
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  Speaker 1: black gloves. He's wearing a boxing glove, which I guess
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  Speaker 1: he's swinging at the camera. Is what this picture is?
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  Speaker 1: Is that how he broke the camera wearing a boxing glove. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that explains that. Okay, that's a pretty clever idea to
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  Speaker 1: not cut your hands up with metal or glass or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You wear a big thick boxing glove and then smash
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  Speaker 1: out the camera. And then he's got some sort of
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  Speaker 1: weird material in his other hand that he holds up
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  Speaker 1: to the camera. I have no idea what's going on there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Katie said it looks like a DreamCatcher.
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  Speaker 2: That's a native American art form thingy.
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  Speaker 1: It does look like that. It's hard to explain why
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  Speaker 1: you would have that.
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  Speaker 3: It could have been. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at it, it kind of looks like there might have
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  Speaker 4: been a plant somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Like, Oh, I wonder if you had at the door.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if you had to take that down to
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  Speaker 1: get to the camera or something something like that. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that explains that. But man, the images are you're well,
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  Speaker 1: you're like the sort of thing you'd see if you're
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  Speaker 1: having a nightmare about Yeah. Yeah, And the idea of
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  Speaker 1: that poor woman confronting that half asleep in her bedroom,
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  Speaker 1: because there's another picture of him just standing there and
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, horrible, horrible situation. I don't remember ever
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  Speaker 1: seeing anything like this before in my life, do you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen any images like this.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, did they not usually release this sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just an offender wearing a mask, And.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's just the uniqueness of him
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  Speaker 1: staring right at the camera with his face up so
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  Speaker 1: close to it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a close up from a ring. It's
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  Speaker 2: a nest camera, I think, I am.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also wondering how the hell it took what not?
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  Speaker 4: Are we on day nine or ten days to get
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  Speaker 4: these released?
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  Speaker 1: I would like to hear the explanation of that, Why
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  Speaker 1: when did they get them? And then was there a
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  Speaker 1: reason they held on to him as long as they did?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember hearing that they were working to get
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  Speaker 2: them from the company that that the devices were from
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  Speaker 2: because she'd let her subscription lapse. But they thought that
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  Speaker 2: they could steal something something, and who knows, there's misreporting
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  Speaker 2: and all. I don't know if that's sure. That might
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  Speaker 2: have been part of it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe we got them as soon as they could
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  Speaker 1: be gotten. I don't know. It certainly seems like it's
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  Speaker 1: the sort of thing you would have won wanted to
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  Speaker 1: release immediately, immediately because there's always the chance. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there doesn't look like there's anything to get from looking
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  Speaker 1: at this picture. He's wearing a jacket, pants, shoes, gloves,
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  Speaker 1: and a mask where I don't even think you can
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  Speaker 1: tell the race of the person, can you. I can't, No, no, And.
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  Speaker 2: You know, unless there's some peculiarity about his eyeballs that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't pick up on, it could be you know,
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  Speaker 2: your brother, and you wouldn't know it.
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  Speaker 1: But it is possible that that's the outfit some dude
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  Speaker 1: wears regularly you know, not the mask, but the jacket
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  Speaker 1: and pants, backpack. True, just the way they stand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well worth releasing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing against that. I'm just saying that they
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  Speaker 2: don't seem to have a lot to go with, or
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  Speaker 2: there's not a lot to get from it, but might
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  Speaker 2: be enough. Well.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm also wondering if they only have stills, maybe
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  Speaker 4: they're still holding onto a video because the way a
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  Speaker 4: person moves you can tell a lot from that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. I don't remember what case it was.
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  Speaker 1: We learned this many many years ago. But everybody has
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  Speaker 1: a very unique walk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The FBI uses walks to identify people all the time,
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  Speaker 1: which I'd never heard of before.
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  Speaker 4: But and that camera's got a straight shot on the
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  Speaker 4: walkway up there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would note I would be able to identify
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people's walks. But that is one of
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  Speaker 1: the more disturbing things I've ever seen, just I guess
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  Speaker 1: because of knowing what's about to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's the face of evil. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: the reality of evil in the world. It's disturbing.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm looking at the post that Cash Patel put out,
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  Speaker 4: and it says new images showing an armed individual appearing.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm wondering where they're seeing a weapon of any
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  Speaker 4: fashion because I don't see them in these pictures, which
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  Speaker 4: makes me think that there's more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't notice anything either.
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  Speaker 1: Are these this That is a good question. Do your
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  Speaker 1: ring cams do any of them take still pictures or
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  Speaker 1: are they all videos?
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  Speaker 3: Mine? Just mine? I have ring and it's it's all video.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Everything I'm aware of is a video. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know of any that take intermittent Yeah, still pictures.
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  Speaker 4: And the ring camera and I don't have nests, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm not familiar with that. But the ring camera, I
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  Speaker 4: know the second there's even anything within where it can
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  Speaker 4: pick up, it starts right.
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  Speaker 1: So even if there were even if it took pictures
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  Speaker 1: every tenth of a second, you'd have pictures of him
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  Speaker 1: getting closer. Yeah, So I wonder why. That's a good
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  Speaker 1: question too. I'm sure we'll get answers to this. And
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  Speaker 1: there's the very I'm not claiming there's anything nefarious going
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  Speaker 1: on here. I just wonder why they haven't released the
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  Speaker 1: video or more pictures.
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  Speaker 2: If looks like he may have a gun holster in
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  Speaker 2: his crotch area.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's he doing with that left hand there
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  Speaker 1: in that one picture? Why's he got his hand like
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  Speaker 1: right around on his crotch area? That wa he's holding
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  Speaker 1: it like that. I don't know. They might be able
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  Speaker 1: to zoom in on that better than us. So the
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  Speaker 1: fact that the guy shows up masked like that with
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  Speaker 1: a boxing glove on one hand and then some other
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a glove like that on his left hand.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a boxing glove with fingers. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: really thick glove.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like snowboarding gloves.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, But does that lead you, Joe, to believe
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  Speaker 1: that this guy is more closer to a pro than
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  Speaker 1: an amateur loser.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you gotta be a pro to have
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  Speaker 2: the very very basics of you know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: put on a mask and wear gloves, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: if I have to break glass, I want some good
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  Speaker 2: thick gloves on. I don't know, because I really I
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  Speaker 2: don't enjoy speculating about this. I really don't. But as
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  Speaker 2: long as you've asked, is it conceivable it's somebody who
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  Speaker 2: is semi competent in the arts of kidnapping? And the
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  Speaker 2: old gal passed quickly after he took her, and he thought,
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  Speaker 2: to hell with this, there's there's there's no win in
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  Speaker 2: this one. I'm just going to dispose of the body
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  Speaker 2: and disappear. Yeah, that's possible. I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: I've always felt like that's the likely ending.
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  Speaker 2: You would try to get a payday anyway. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: because the history if kidnapping is, even if your victim dies,
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  Speaker 2: you still try to get the payday. You come up
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  Speaker 2: with some rationale not to provide proof of life, or
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  Speaker 2: you provide you know, what looks to be proof of life,
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  Speaker 2: which isn't and you still try to get that.
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  Speaker 1: Or you get somebody desperate enough they're willing to take
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  Speaker 1: a flyer on. Right, maybe you don't have them, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try it anyway. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you call and say, here's precisely what she's wearing,
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  Speaker 2: here's the door I broke in. Uh, you know that
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff. I grabbed her in between the kitchen
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  Speaker 2: and the blah blah blah. So they know you're legit
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  Speaker 2: a monster, but a legit monster, Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: NBC is reporting the Guthries have seen the photos and
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  Speaker 1: say they don't recognize the individual. Okay, I wouldn't assume
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  Speaker 1: they do. If you're easily recognized in that outfit, you
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  Speaker 1: did not do a good job of trying to conceal
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  Speaker 1: your identity. You're right, everybody's calling it an armed individual.
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  Speaker 1: So somewhere in that photo there is a weapon. I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what difference that makes either. All I
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  Speaker 1: know is that just the idea that she woke up
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  Speaker 1: at some point and saw that masked face that's right
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  Speaker 1: there in that photo is as about as frightening as
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  Speaker 1: anything I can possibly imagine. Yeah, God, you could easily
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  Speaker 1: die of a heart attack just from that. Holy cow.
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  Speaker 1: Well be interesting to follow this throughout the day, with
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  Speaker 1: the biggest question being, Okay, Hanson's just blown up the
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  Speaker 1: photo for me, what is that in the middle there, Hanson,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think that is? You think that's a gun?
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  Speaker 1: You think that's clearly a gun? Oh, you're right now
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  Speaker 1: that I look at it that way, Yeah, it's clearly
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  Speaker 1: a gun. It's a wholester with a gun in it.
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  Speaker 1: He's got right between his legs.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, there's that video ptel Just the video. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 1: The video has just been released, not the still photos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a holster.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, yep, that's a gun and a holster.
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  Speaker 4: Oh and you know, so it's not boxing gloves. He's
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  Speaker 4: got two like snowboarding gloves on.
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  Speaker 1: Uh look at that. So now he's wandering away. He
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  Speaker 1: came up to the camera, he wandered away, he walked
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  Speaker 1: back like he's looking to get something, grab something, a
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  Speaker 1: rock or something.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that could be an edit because I remember they
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  Speaker 2: said he the next camera registered that it had been
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  Speaker 2: damaged or broken, and it was twenty minutes later that
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  Speaker 2: the guy came back, So he might might have been
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  Speaker 2: waiting to see if somebody responded.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's right, we did hear that. That is
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  Speaker 1: a So that that's seems like a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: pro move. Andy, come make a move on the ring camera,
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  Speaker 1: then wait and see if anybody shows up.
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  Speaker 4: And the DreamCatcher looking thing when he wanders away from
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  Speaker 4: the camera, he picks he like rips off a piece
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  Speaker 4: of a bush in her front yard, and I guess
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  Speaker 4: he was going to use that kind of block it
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  Speaker 4: while he.
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  Speaker 3: Tampered with that.
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  Speaker 1: God, that's horrifying to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Because pro quote unquote, it could just be a jackass
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  Speaker 2: that knows just enough to be dangerous, but it's clearly
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  Speaker 2: a targeted kidnap it.
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  Speaker 1: It is so horrifying to see the thing that you know,
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  Speaker 1: every once in a while we imagine when we're you know,
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  Speaker 1: imagining really awful things in the night.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if it was somebody that was there before.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it could be somebody that serviced the house
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  Speaker 4: or something like that and found out who lives.
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  Speaker 1: There, who knows certainly could And now he's taking the
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  Speaker 1: branches and flowers that looks like and trying to put
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  Speaker 1: them over the camera to block it because now it
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  Speaker 1: is blocked. I don't know. Well, the interesting thing to
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  Speaker 1: find out is going to be when did they get
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  Speaker 1: this and what the experts are getting from the experts
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  Speaker 1: are probably picking stuff up from this video that we
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  Speaker 1: as amateurs are not. But oh my god, that is
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  Speaker 1: about as chilling a thing as I can remember seeing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want my kids to see that, especially my
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  Speaker 1: one that's got anxiety problems.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I keep it from him.
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  Speaker 1: Uh maybe him, his brother will see it because he
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  Speaker 1: takes enough media. But my my youngest who's got anxiety problems.
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  Speaker 1: He he he has problems with taking a shower because
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  Speaker 1: he feels like he hears noises anyway, like people trying
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  Speaker 1: to get in or whatever. If he saw that video,
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  Speaker 1: he won't sleep for a week. That is not a
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  Speaker 1: good That is not a good video for anybody that
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  Speaker 1: has anxiety around somebody breaking into their house. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: like the worst thing your mind can create. Holy crap.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, tune into the next Armstrong Ngetdy radio
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  Speaker 1: show because we'll have the latest on it. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's it.