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ALLAN STAG - Podpah _978 · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Let's go? Let's go. Let's go, Egon.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go, there's a lot to talk about here, right?
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  Speaker 2: I received a lot of love.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God, you already talk about Vasco, look at
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  Speaker 3: the atmosphere getting sad. Notice with a lot of affection,
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  Speaker 3: make a lot of noise, knock down this studio. Because
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  Speaker 3: who is here with us today is him, Alan Estadiário.
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  Speaker 1: Clap your hands, guys. How are you, Ramon?
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  Speaker 2: Vasco!
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  Speaker 1: Vasco!
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  Speaker 2: You're Vascaíno? He's a Vascaíno.
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  Speaker 3: He's not.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to please us. He's naughty.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to him before. There's no Vascaíno here today.
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  Speaker 2: I said, who shouted Vasco?
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  Speaker 4: It was just one and he wasn't. It was a mistake.
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  Speaker 4: I got here, I met him.
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  Speaker 1: He presented the story that he had a bad time
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  Speaker 1: last year. He was late with Botafogo in Libertadores and
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  Speaker 1: went to the hospital. But Botafoguense.
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  Speaker 2: Are you at that level?
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  Speaker 4: Are you at that level of having a bad time
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  Speaker 4: with football, with Vasco?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I think I've been more. I still am, but
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  Speaker 1: it's because I have to give a mold because of
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  Speaker 1: the work, the lives and stuff. So, like, I have
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  Speaker 1: to give a... Because if I don't, they'll keep cursing me.
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  Speaker 1: I start to lose my temper.
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  Speaker 2: You ruin the day when the team loses.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I do. But Vasco has ruined my recent years.
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  Speaker 1: There's nowhere to run.
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  Speaker 4: So, it's a season of your life that's being ruined.
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  Speaker 4: As I usually tell people, since I started.
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  Speaker 1: Doing live, it was in 2019, I've been doing it
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  Speaker 1: for 6, 7 years. Damn! I haven't got a good
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  Speaker 1: Vasco team yet.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't take a wave, you didn't start.
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  Speaker 1: A live saying... Since then, it's just a fight. How
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  Speaker 1: old are you? I'm 30. Didn't you get a good
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  Speaker 1: Vasco too?
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  Speaker 2: I got it in 2011. 2011 was a good Vasco.
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  Speaker 1: What? Dedé, Alec Sandro, Fagner, André Luiz? It was André Luiz.
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  Speaker 1: I miss him.
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  Speaker 2: I miss him.
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  Speaker 1: Fernando Pras.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that Corinthians and.
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  Speaker 3: Vasco in São Januário 2x2 in 2011? Alex's goal, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Danilo's goal. That's it. Fagner's goal.
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  Speaker 3: That's it, man.
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  Speaker 1: But how is Vasco today? You, as a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Man, it improved a little. It improved a lot, in general.
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  Speaker 4: Diniz....
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Diniz is the contractions. He's like 880. He's like
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  Speaker 1: you believe it can work when it works and you
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  Speaker 1: believe it can go wrong when it goes wrong. He's
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  Speaker 1: like I love you, I hate you, right? Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way. Every game, if you love me, you'll hate me.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way to be neutral in the game against
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  Speaker 1: Diniz in the team's command.
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: But I think he improved. Because recently the teams were
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  Speaker 1: very bad, right? And this one is better, but he's
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  Speaker 1: still very vulnerable. But he's going to improve. Brother, you
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  Speaker 1: have a thing that I wanted to have, which is
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  Speaker 1: to be known by the team I root for. And
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  Speaker 1: what about Corinthians? It's been a while, but I think.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it, Corinthians is not.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a while, but I think he, Casemiro, is
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  Speaker 3: a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not because of Vasco.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because of Vasco. People want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Vasco. I feel like Vasco, during the last years,
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  Speaker 1: has become a popular subject. It's in the shit, everyone
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  Speaker 1: knows it, and let's play. And you deal with it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. I even usually tell people that they
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  Speaker 1: haven't gotten used to or haven't seen the good Vasco yet,
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  Speaker 1: with the Vascaínos saying like this, the team is good
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  Speaker 1: as fuck now. They haven't gotten used to it yet,
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  Speaker 1: you know? In the last years. For the younger kids, right?
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  Speaker 3: But, since we're talking about Vasco, there's an experience I
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  Speaker 3: had with the Vasco fans, it was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: I went to do a job in.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was last year or the
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  Speaker 3: year after, but it was in a Vasco firehouse.
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  Speaker 2: In Engenhão.
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  Speaker 3: And then, I stayed there in the Vasco fans, and
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  Speaker 3: the guys knowing that I was a Coritian, and they
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  Speaker 3: even have a... a good relationship with the Palmeiras fans,
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  Speaker 3: they played with me a little, but I arrived like this,
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  Speaker 3: they received me so well, then I stuck, man, I stuck,
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  Speaker 3: out of nowhere, I was in the Pagode da Força Jovem,
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  Speaker 3: but like this, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Locked, I said, man.
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  Speaker 3: If someone says, oh, this boy is from Corinthians, or
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  Speaker 3: something like that, I was a little more shy. But
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  Speaker 3: it was absurd to see how much the fans are
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  Speaker 3: in love with the parade. And I saw a very, very, very,
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  Speaker 3: very cool parade. Even Ramon said, another partner said, if
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  Speaker 3: you have the opportunity, of football experience, go to the
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  Speaker 3: Barreira do Vasco.
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  Speaker 1: What is Vasco's barrier? Can you explain it to me?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a concentration? Have you been there? It's different, man.
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  Speaker 1: We usually say that the Vasco's barrier brings together all
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  Speaker 1: types of Vascans by the same feeling, by the same climate.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're middle class, high class, if
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  Speaker 1: you're poor, you're there enjoying the same environment, with the
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  Speaker 1: same people and enjoying being Vasco, you know? Because in
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  Speaker 1: recent years you're not enjoying Great titles, because it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: happening in the last years. You weren't enjoying great teams,
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  Speaker 1: because Vasco's performances are bad in the last years. So
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  Speaker 1: it's very democratic. Yeah, but you're enjoying being Vasco. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: it's a victory, a player, a competition.
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  Speaker 2: It's just love.
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  Speaker 1: It's love and passion for the team. And now you're
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  Speaker 1: going to say, Vasco is very passionate. I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think all of them are, okay? All of them
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  Speaker 1: are your way, right? There are more passionate fans, or
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  Speaker 1: more vibrant, less vibrant. Everyone loves to be part of
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  Speaker 1: your team. But Vasco has a special thing, because, look,
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  Speaker 1: in joy, in sadness, in sadness... in sadness, in sadness,
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  Speaker 1: in joy, in sadness, you know? Especially for younger kids.
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  Speaker 1: I'm 30 years old. My dad is 83. My dad
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  Speaker 1: has lived Vasco since the beginning. He's been to all
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  Speaker 1: the great Vasco movies. Your dad has seen Vasco. Recently,
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  Speaker 1: my dad.
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  Speaker 2: He's the guy who says to me, when Vasco gets.
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  Speaker 1: Fucked, he calls me. Sometimes I'm on live. I pause
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  Speaker 1: and go to him. I say I'm going to the
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  Speaker 1: bathroom and go to him. I say, man, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to apologize for making you Vasco. He's kidding. He puts
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  Speaker 1: this on. He puts this on. I say, man, he's kidding.
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  Speaker 1: He's crazy. In defeat, in victory, we'll be Vasco in
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  Speaker 1: the same way. And I think the defeat also shapes
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  Speaker 1: a little character. And in Rio de Janeiro, bro, Vasco
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  Speaker 1: is the real team of the people. You have to respect.
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  Speaker 1: You have to respect. You have to respect.
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  Speaker 2: You have to respect. You have to respect.
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  Speaker 1: You have to respect. Luva de Pedreiro is Vasco, bro.
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  Speaker 1: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: You have to respect.
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  Speaker 1: Whindersson, who comes tomorrow, is Vasco. Man, Luva de Pedreiro
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  Speaker 1: has a story about him in São Januário that is absurd, man.
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  Speaker 2: Tell it, tell it now.
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  Speaker 1: Like, we were there, it was right at the first
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  Speaker 1: moment that he appeared and he left where he was
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  Speaker 1: to meet Brazil. I think the first places he went...
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  Speaker 1: The audience went to São Januário.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: You remember that, right? It had already been a controversy
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  Speaker 1: about Jesus at the time.
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  Speaker 2: He ate McDonald's and went to São Januário.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that. So, he went to São Januário. And, like,
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  Speaker 1: we were there. And then, Kazé, he has a Camaro
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  Speaker 1: at São Januário, which I almost always go with him. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: Kazé was there, his wife was there, I was there,
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  Speaker 1: my wife. So, like, everyone was there. Your wife is
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  Speaker 1: also Vasco?
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  Speaker 2: She is Vasco. And then.
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  Speaker 1: She looked at me with a sad face, bro.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't even look at you, she closed her eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And then we were there, just like that, with the
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  Speaker 1: Camaradas São João, they are on top of the bench,
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  Speaker 1: in the back there, and they have a window that
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  Speaker 1: you can close, And there's a smoke, no one sees
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  Speaker 1: what's inside. And when you open it, everyone sees you.
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  Speaker 1: And the bench is right below.
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  Speaker 2: It's a.
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  Speaker 3: It's a room that looks like a closet.
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  Speaker 2: Of a house.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a balcony up there with a bench below.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it. And then, like, Luvas Pereira went to
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  Speaker 1: our room to meet. It was the first contact he
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  Speaker 1: had with Cazé too. Then he talked to everyone. Man,
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  Speaker 1: we're going. Then, man, he opened the window. He opened
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  Speaker 1: the window. Cazé always keeps the window closed. Because if
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  Speaker 1: he opens the window, he's fucked. He stops everything there
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  Speaker 1: to talk to him.
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  Speaker 1: Because he didn't know if he could do
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  Speaker 1: it or not. Then Alani pulled and we talked, closed
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  Speaker 1: the window and everything was fine.
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  Speaker 3: Look, you guys are muting about Luva de Pedreiro, but
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  Speaker 3: the key of the world is in the hands of
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  Speaker 3: the man.
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  Speaker 1: It's different, right? Alani, we actually went to Turkey, the
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Champions League final, and he was there.
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  Speaker 3: Brother, a player who won the Champions League, a goalkeeper,
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: that no one remembers, could pass by, who wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: stopped and applauded how much Luva de Pedreiro was.
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  Speaker 1: Impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Receive, Brazil.
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  Speaker 1: People started to think that receive was a greeting, you know, something.
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  Speaker 4: And I realized that in his math, he said, man,
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  Speaker 4: you don't speak any language, I don't know what. He said, no, man,
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  Speaker 4: I don't even understand. He said, receive, take a picture,
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  Speaker 4: and let's go, and that's it. And I saw that
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  Speaker 4: up close, several nationalities calling him and such.
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  Speaker 2: And he simply, man, receive. He had his own language
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  Speaker 2: of receive. Salve, Luva. Tamo junto. Tamo junto, Irã.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Alan. Where does your passion for soccer come from?
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  Speaker 1: Is it from your father? I think so. What did
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  Speaker 1: you see as a kid? Tell us about it.
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  Speaker 3: My father was always very passionate about soccer. He always
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: tried to introduce me to soccer.
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  Speaker 1: I used to play soccer with him. I used to
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: go to Flamengo's home in Rio de Janeiro. We used
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: to play soccer together. He wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: A player already?
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  Speaker 1: So, my father played beach football. In Rio de Janeiro,
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  Speaker 1: there's also a beach football team. It's a beach soccer team.
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  Speaker 1: My father played a bit of beach football. But my
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  Speaker 1: father always told me that he didn't have the quality
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  Speaker 1: to play it. His job was to throw the balls
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  Speaker 1: into the air. Just kidding. He was always playing on
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  Speaker 1: the beach, but I never had the chance to play
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: football professionally. But he always liked it a lot. And
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  Speaker 1: I think he saw in me the potential to make
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: his dream come true too. So my dream became his
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  Speaker 1: dream and we were dreaming together during the whole process,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: since we were little. Since what age? Man, I think
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  Speaker 1: I started going to a soccer school when I was
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: 3 or 4 years old.
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  Speaker 2: Wow!
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  Speaker 1: He wanted you to become one. Exactly, a school where
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: you played with your friends. Then I went to a
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: better school later. And then I did a test at Fluminense,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: at Futsal.
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  Speaker 2: I passed.
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  Speaker 1: Like this, I got to do the little school there.
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  Speaker 1: Then there was a little championship that I stood out.
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  Speaker 2: I passed.
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  Speaker 1: That's what time? Man, that was 2002. I was 6
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  Speaker 1: to 7 years old, you know? That's it. And then
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I did the little school already at Fluminense there. Then
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  Speaker 1: I did a little championship that was... I don't know
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: what was the name of it, but it was the
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Super Cup, the Euro Cup of something here in Fluminense,
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  Speaker 1: where each team was a team and then you played
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and they took some of the highlights of this championship,
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  Speaker 1: which was basically the Fluminense schools, and took them to
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  Speaker 1: do tests in the federation. And then I stood out,
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  Speaker 1: I went to do tests, I passed, and then I
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  Speaker 1: entered the Fluminense football team when I was 7 years old.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but I remember when I went to do the school,
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  Speaker 3: I was a child, I said, I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: do anything with Corinthians, I haven't seen the uniform of
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  Speaker 3: another team. Did your father have to explain to you
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  Speaker 3: that you were going to Fluminense, but you didn't have
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  Speaker 3: to support Fluminense?
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  Speaker 1: So, there was, man. Because, like, as I was from Laranjeiras,
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  Speaker 1: I lived close to Fluminense, so it was more accessible
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  Speaker 1: for me to go to Fluminense's little school, because it
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: was closer. So, like, I did it there, not doing
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  Speaker 1: it in Fluminense, then I went to Fluminense, because the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: teacher of the little school I was in said, like, man,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I think he's a little better than the guys who
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: are here, he's going to try to see if it
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  Speaker 1: works out.
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  Speaker 2: If it unwinds.
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  Speaker 1: If it unwinds. And then my father started to explain
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  Speaker 1: to me, because I grew up in Laranjeiras and there
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: are a lot of tricolors there. So I had many
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: tricolor friends, I was doing school playing for Fluminense, and
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  Speaker 1: my father said, man, you can separate things and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: He was afraid you would turn into Fluminense. I could
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  Speaker 1: have turned into Fluminense, you know? Because it was simple
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  Speaker 1: to happen there. And that's even normal. Normal. But since
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I was little, my father has always influenced me to
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: play Vasco. I always went to the stadiums with my father,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: to see the Vasco games with my father, so I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: kind of managed to separate it. I understood that I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: was Vasco, but that I was also playing for Fluminense.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And after that, my mind changed. Even since I was
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: a kid, I was like, there's no problem playing for Fluminense, Flamengo, Botafogo,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: and being Vasco. And I think that also comes from
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the practice of sports in general. Those who practice sports
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: have a little less attachment to this thing, like, I'm
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: not going to wear the shirt of the rival team,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: or I'm not going to play for the rival team.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: It's a job, right? Yeah, you deal with it in
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a different way, you know?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, but when did you realize that even though you
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: were very young, things were getting serious for football?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Trainings, commitments, have to be on time, you know? That
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: thing that we hear a lot from players, like, bro,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: this phase is the worst.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Phase, bro.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I usually say a lot that I lived
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: for football, like, for a good part of my childhood. So, like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the weekends were always games, like, I used to go
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: with my dad, for example, we trained in the little fraud,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: which was the sub-9 category, right? Which was sub-8, turned sub-9,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you already trained three times a week. So, it was like, Monday, Wednesday,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Friday night at futsal... On weekends, we played on Saturdays
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and Sundays, because on Sundays we played against Fluminense. But
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: on Saturdays, all the national teams played against Fluminense. Flamengo
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: played against Fluminense. But all the teams would replicate this
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: team in another parallel league. People would play against different players,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: against different teams, they would train more and more. Exactly.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Fluminense played for Casca Dura, in the Casca Dura neighborhood.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: So on Saturdays, if it was a game for Casca Dura,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it was Fluminense's team for Casca Dura. Got it. Vasco
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: was for the Light, Flamengo was for the Mackenzie. So
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: there were several things like that. So we would play
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for Rio de Janeiro, me and my dad. Basically, during
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the week I would study. And I was training at night,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: and on weekends it was for soccer.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Your dad was really cool, he would go with you everywhere.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: He would say, my son, you're going to be a professional,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: you're going to be a great player.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: What were the ideas? My dad dreamed of me from
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the beginning.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I remember that my dad had a notebook of notes,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: he wrote down the goals of Alan in training, what
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: he thought, how it was in training, how it was
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: in the game. He wrote everything down, he passed it
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to me. He was my biggest critic. He would expose me.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: He must have been really annoying.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I was 9 years old. If I didn't run as
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: fast as he thought I had to run, he would say,''
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Get out of the way, Alan! Let's run!
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: And at home, when it comes to food, sleep, was
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: he also annoying?'' You didn't eat anything!
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: You're not eating right, kid!
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: So, at home, I think it was a little bit
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: the opposite. For example, my mom was always very focused on,''
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Alan has to study.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Because, at least at my time, I don't know how
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it is nowadays. at some point in your childhood, who
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: wants to play football, you have to choose which side
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you will open your hand a little, right? From the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: study or from your career attempt. Not that you're going
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to drop out of school, but you're going to leave
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it in the background, like that. You're going to turn
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: into a substitute, or with colleges that are not so qualified,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that you're going to have to get a chance there.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: They also have several conventions with athletes, so they give help,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: give support to the athletes who are there training in
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the morning and in the afternoon, right? Because there comes
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a time when you're going to train in the afternoon
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and at night, right? Which is field football. and futsal.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It's a moment that later turns into morning and night.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: There's only the afternoon, but there's no way you can
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: go to the house and train in the morning, go
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: out and go back to school to go back to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: training at night. So, at some point, the school will
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: be in the background. And my mom always fought so
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that the school wouldn't be in the background. So, like,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: at some point, there were those traditional discussions at home
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: that my dad said, like, let's push here to see
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: if it goes. And my mom said, like, support it,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: because you're going to have to study too. So, my
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: life was in this... Dilema, tá ligado?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: E como que era você na escola?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Cara, eu era bom aluno pra caramba, mano. A galera
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: da live, tipo assim, porque... Todo mundo chama a gente
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: de burro, né? Na internet. Então, falar que eu sou burro,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: uma estúpida e tal... O Podipá nunca chamaram.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: O Podipá, dois asas.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Não, não, nunca.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Microbiology biology Dude, you know that biology is small. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: also don't know, I didn't go into it. And what
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: is micro? Microbiology, I think it is. Biology is micro.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: It's from the smallest particles. Why did she do that?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: She's like, my God, microbiology. You must be tense studying this.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And she charged me a lot, like, you have to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: have a good performance in school, if you don't have
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a good performance in school, we're going to cut the football.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: My dad said, don't cut the football. She would cut
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the soccer if I didn't go to school, I was
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in this dilemma, like, man, sometimes I would get home
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: from training, like, 11, 12 o'clock at night, then I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: would sleep to wake up at 6 in the morning
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to go to school, I would finish school at noon,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I would go out to train field there with my father,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and then I would go to São João to train
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: soccer when I went to Vasco, so, brother, it was crazy,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: But when it was just you and your father, what
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: were the murders, the little things that he, like, would
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: do to you, like.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, he does this and that, his mother left him.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Because you were kind of his team, right, bro? And
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he was yours. And you were both against your mother,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in quotes. So, my father asked me not to miss class,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you know? Like, bro, go to school, go to school. Like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: don't miss it. Because if you miss it, your mother
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: will be pissed. So, that's basically it. He said, if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we had to find a way to get to the training,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we'd find a way. I talked to the school principal.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: You had to give him a day off. Yeah, but
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: don't miss class. Go to class without him. But your
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: life at school was a life as a player.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Because every little school has... The goalkeepers. The goalkeepers. You
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: were the goalkeeper there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So, I had to change schools because of training. That
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: was the first thing that impacted me as a child.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Because you create your own life at school, friends and such.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: For example, where I studied... the fifth series, which today
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: is the sixth year, at the time it was the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: fifth series, anyway. I was studying in a school and
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: this fifth series was in the afternoon. And then I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: had to go to a school that was in the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: morning because the training camp of Vasco was in the afternoon,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: there in Avenida Brasil, in Cefã. So, like this, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: had to study in the morning and I had to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: go to the training in the afternoon and to the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: training at night. So I changed schools, it was the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: first impact I had, like this, in relation to my friends.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: The whole day away, man.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: The whole day away from home. The whole day away
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: from home. And then, when I got to this school,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the other school I studied, the school of Sion, there
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in Rio de Janeiro, Sometimes I had to leave a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: little earlier because the training was earlier. So, for example,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the training was at 1.30 pm. I started the training,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: or 2 pm. And my last class at school was
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: at 2.40 pm. So there were times that I had
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to ask to leave a while earlier to get there
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: in the training. Because, in fact, there was traffic, it
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: was far and such.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: But the director of the college was always a great
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: partner because I was also a good student, you know?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So I could reconcile. But it didn't take that long
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: for me to reconcile this life. Because at some point,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I migrated along the way and things didn't work out.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And then I focused on studying more than football.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: So, to get to that point, why did you give
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: up on this life of football?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Man, so.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's a moment... My dad regrets more, like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: until today. It's the first death of a man. Yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: when we receive the card, like, as a gift, you know?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: My dad has kept the card as a gift until today, man.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: He knows, like, the name of the guy who gave
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it to me. He's fucking with this guy until today. Like, man,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: he has everything. He must dream about this guy. Dream?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: No.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Son of a bitch.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: It's like that, like, he kept it for him because,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: as we said, we shot this dream together. Then I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: even continued playing futsal for a long time, but the field,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I stopped there when I had... 13 to 14? Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: The field seems early, you know?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: No, early among these, because 13 to 14 is the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: moment to know, if it goes or not.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So, there were two things, like, the first one that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I always say, I never have the shame to say, like, man,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of people who were better than me,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I was never the highlight of Vasco, you know? No,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it was that player of composition, reserve, who came in
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: from time to time in the games and it was
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: worth it, you know?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: This is great.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: This in the field. But, like, the guys don't understand that, man,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: at the base, man, for you to go up, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: have to be the peak. Because, like, imagine, I'm going
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to ask you, at the time you were from the college,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: in your place, in your coexistence. You met the boys
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: who were really good at playing soccer. Absurd, but they
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: weren't anything absurd near the absurd. They turned into soccer players? Nothing, none.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's very crazy, because, for example, there in my college,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I was the best in my college. But, bro, when
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I got there in the sport, in soccer, where the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: guys only do that. Bro, there were several boys who
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: were really good or better than me. So, at some point,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I realized that, bro, I wasn't the peak. So I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: would fight hard to be the guy that would be
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: present in the team and try to win my positions there.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I was in the 23rd division, bro. Exactly. And there
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: was also another point, bro, that I had late puberty. So, bro,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I was very thin, very thin, very skinny, you know? So, like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: when you get to the age of 13, 14, you
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: already have a lot of galalau, boy. With the hair
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: under the arm, the hair under the ass, strong as hell.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I was still a kid, you know?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Very franzino.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Very franzino. So I had to adapt my style to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: sustain that kind of game. Man, it's true. Remember those
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: 15-year-old kids that scare you? Yeah, man. And at the club,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you see a lot of people from various corners of Brazil.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And there's also a lot of old guys coming. A
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: lot of guys that are older than they are. They
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: come and take all the positions. You came to... I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: don't need to quote, but.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: You came to distrust. You said, man, this guy is
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: about 20 years old. We already lost a title because.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Of Gato, man. And that's when we had... But Gato,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you won the title and Gato was on your team.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It was on our team, man. It was on our team.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It was on Futsal, man. I was from Fluminense. Fluminense,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that's right. Final against Vasco. We won the Vasco final
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: on Futsal. Then there was a guy on our team
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: who was a reserve, but who was older. They found
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: out later. We didn't lose the medals, but we lost
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the title conceptually, you know? But there was a lot, man,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: because these clubs are very target of several people from
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: all corners of Brazil. And many of these times, there
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: are bad people too. How old was the kid, do
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you remember? Two years old, bro. But it already changes
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the category.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But just for your father to get irritated again, why
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: did you get suspended, bro?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: So, I got suspended because, damn, I didn't do it anymore. Yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: like that, I was already lower, thinner, I couldn't maybe
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: sustain the kind of physical game that was of the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: kids on the field. And it wasn't better than the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: one that was there, you know? So, at some point,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the cast will run and people will be sent away.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And then I left the Vasco's field, I still tried
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to see if I would continue on the field and such,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: but I adapted much better to futsal. So I kept
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: playing futsal, it lasted until I was 20 years old.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But futsal, for you to become a player, in Rio
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: de Janeiro mainly, or think about becoming a professional in futsal,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's very complicated.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It's a lot, right? Everyone says that.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: It's another universe, like that. So... I didn't even dream
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: It's complicated in what way, just so we can understand
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Like, oh, the guy wants to be
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a professional in futsal. How is his path?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because from what I understand, in football, he came
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a path. In futsal, he didn't see that path. He
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: didn't see that path. Yeah, for example, in Rio de Janeiro,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: for you to have an idea, in the National Football League,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: which was the main league in Brazil, we had, like, Historically,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Vasco was already a Brazilian champion, they had great teams,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: but recently they didn't even have a team in the league.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Botafogo had a team in the league once, Cabo Friense
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: had a team in the league once, and Rio de
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Janeiro didn't have a professional futsal team. There's an adult category,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: but it's like, it's a girl who plays, sometimes gets
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a help, a little animal to play, but it's not professional.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Professionalism in futsal, you go to São Paulo, to the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: southern region of Brazil, where there are teams that invest
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a lot. So I didn't even see how I was
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: going to be a professional football player. So I said, man,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I think that at that moment, the watershed of my life,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: when I was almost 15 years old, 13, 14 years old,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I understood that I was going to keep playing football,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: even if something appears, but I'm going to stay in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the studios too and I'm going to see what this
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: will result in, you know? Football had already turned more
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: into a hobby. Exactly. And then it was that moment
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that me and my father, we talked, he understood that
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: we dreamed until we managed to dream, you know? And
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it's part of it, man. How sad or satisfied were you? Man,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: at that time I was very sad, but I didn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: understand so much, man. I'll be honest, like, when you're younger,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I think I didn't take this shit from life early, like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I said, damn, I lost the chance of my life.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And I think football has a lot about it too, like,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: for example, I say a lot that football is also
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: about necessity, you know? So, like, no, there's luck, there's necessity,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: there's how much dedication you put in the process, there's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that will put you more in evidence.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: But I think the necessity factor is very influential in this, because,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: for example, I lived a long time with many people
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: who had in soccer the only chance of life, you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to take the family out of misery or to be
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: able to give a different future from poverty to the family.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So the guy has that chance there, the family fights
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: for that chance only to be able to do it right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And I think that influences your day-to-day, you know? It's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: something supernatural, right? You dedicate 100%, there's a guy who
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: dedicates 120% because he's taking 20% from where you don't
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: have it, you know? So, like, in my life, I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: was never rich when I was younger, but I always
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: had an okay condition, I never lacked anything. And my parents,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: whenever they had to take something from me to give me,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: they did, for example. My mom already sold the family
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: car to keep paying for a private school for me,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so I could have a cooler future, you know? So, like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I always studied in a private college. My mom and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: my dad did everything possible for this condition to stay. So,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I always, like, managed to have the things and managed
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to have... Not to go through any kind of difficulty
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and get an okay life of middle class, you know? So,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I had an opportunity beyond football. I dedicated myself a
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: lot to football. I look at Alan, the youngest, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I say, like, man, maybe you could have been more dedicated.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But you blame Alan, the youngest?
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: No, man.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: No, man. Because... It's very hard, man. Because we talk
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: about soccer players in general, we comment, we're live, we comment,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: we talk to younger guys and stuff. Like, man, these guys,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to get there, they opened their hands all their lives.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: All of them.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: They didn't live the childhood that people used to live.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: They didn't play with their friends, they didn't go out
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: with their friends, they didn't have parties.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: They didn't live anything, man.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: It's dedication. They are professionals since 10 years of age. So, like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it's fucking, man, you... And then, that's what comes in.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I lived in a way that... Only I trained like this,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know? In my college, in my group of friends,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: only I trained like this. So, like, it's fucking. You
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: see your friends doing something and you're not there. Then,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: at the end of the week, there's something and you're
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: not there. Then, at night, there's something and you're not there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: 15-year-old party, of so-and-so, so-and-so. And then I say, like, man,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: sometimes you look and it breaks you a little bit. Like, like, man,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I want to live this here too, you know? And then,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I couldn't divide it. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I think that, at some point, these things disturbed me
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit, like, dedication, it's a training that I missed,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you know? Something that I couldn't do right. And I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: think that in the end, man, it wasn't supposed to be.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And I understood that. Today, older, I understand that, man,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I have several friends, several people I've known since I
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: was older, that, man, they played for KC, they played
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a lot more ball than me, and they didn't get there,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know? Like, in football, I usually say... Of course,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I respect all professions. I think there are very difficult
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: professions that are urgent in our lives. Doctor, teacher, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: so on. That influence the whole ecosystem. But soccer is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the most difficult sport in Brazil today. It's because it's
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: a passion. It's in the country of soccer that every
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: boy wants to play soccer when he is born. Most
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of the boys. And I think this passion is coming
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to the girls now. Because soccer is starting to be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: in the recessions.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So it's very cool.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: World Cup. But, bro, everyone wants to be a soccer player.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So you go to the clubs to play Peneira, bro,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it's per day, 300 boys are there. And 300 good
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: boys there. Why don't you go to Peneira, the guy
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: who is bad at football? Besides that there are some.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Contacts, besides that there are a lot of things. Exactly.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people to try to do,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: get there and such. And in the end, man, only
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the crack of the crack of the crack of the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: crack that takes off. Obviously there are some exceptions, right?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: But in general, only the peaks that arrive.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: And it's not a joke.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: We've already talked to countless cracks here. And all of them,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: without exception, talk like this, talking about the base and such. Ah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and this one was better than you? He, a lot,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: a lot better than me. So, for you to see,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the craques that we idolize today, there were.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Many, many better players along the way, man. It stays, man.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: There are many nuances.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: But, ok, then you decided to stop with this football life.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: What were the next steps?
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: You came to think, at the time you had decided, ok,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: it won't be football, what will be my direction?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: So, this moment was a conflict, because, for example, in school,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I really liked math, and it was good math, and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: my mom always dreamed, like, traditional dream of mom, son,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in my time, engineering, you know? Engineering was the trend
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of my time, like, I'm 30, I think I did
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the Enem, I had... Was it in 2012 or 2013? 2013,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I think. I also did 2013. Engineering was.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It was the trend of engineering.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: At the time, you know?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to do.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Even the.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Word engineering, engineer.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: No, in college, what do you want to be? Engineer?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You don't even know what you want to be.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: You don't know. The word engineer was beautiful in school.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Mechanical engineer, I wanted to be. Mechanical engineer... So, like,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: engineering is the word of the word. So, like, my
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: mother would say, man, you're going to be an engineer
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I accepted that. Until I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: got into high school. And you understood what it was.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I understood a little, man. And I hit a subject
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that I didn't like at all, which was physics, you know?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Horrible.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And then, physics, I know that it's very... Attracted. Attracted
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to engineering. And in the selection process of college, physics
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: is an important grade for engineering and stuff. I said, like, man,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: physics is going to be bad for me.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Because, man, math, math, and so on. But physics doesn't work. So,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to give engineering.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And I also started to try to get closer to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the idea of saying, man, I lived football my whole life.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I was a kid who is very crazy. I talk
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to a girl on live sometimes. I say, man, did
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you see your drawing? I say, no, bro. What drawing
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: did you see? I say, this, this, this. And what
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: did you play? Did you see Chaves? Did you see
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: these things? Dragon Ball? I say, no, bro. Because I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: only saw football, bro. I lived football, you know?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: I saw Mesa Redonda, I saw Globo Esporte, Aranha Esporte TV,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Bate Bola.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: You said Mesa Redonda, I already know that you watched
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: all of them. All of them, bro.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: If the guy quotes, bro, the first sports program he quotes,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Mesa I watched everything.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: About it, so I said, man, I think I want
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to be a journalist. But I knew that, man, it
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was a very difficult life, that paid much less than
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: other professions that you, in theory, will go to, will
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: be economy, will be an engineer, will be an accountant
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and such. I tried to be a player, but I
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: was like that, bro.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: So much so that my dream of life was to
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: be Tiago Leifert, damn it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the reference at the time was PVC, you know?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Paulo Vides Coelho. Holy shit, you were a nerd. Yeah,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You were more fashionable.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I was more fashionable. The PVC is the one who says...
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: He's the one.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: He's the one.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: It makes me angry. He remembers things and says, it's impossible.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Who's talking about this?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: He's kidding. And then I was in this flirt, like, man,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I think I like, but
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I know it's much more difficult. I know that the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: financial success of this profession is more complicated too. Or
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I have, maybe, like, easy.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have more tranquility in the market. I'm
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: going to make more money. I'm going to have financial success.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And then I started to understand. I went there and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: did the math exam. Because, I think it's another part
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: of the story that we'll get there. I started playing
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: soccer with a button.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: After I stopped playing soccer, I started playing soccer with
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: a button.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: The guy wants soccer anyway. He wants soccer.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I need to be in the middle.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I need to be in the middle.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And then, inside this thing of playing with a button,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of older people, you know? I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: met a lot of my friends who are older. Let's pause.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Pause.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Caralho, como é que você virou esse astro do futebol
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: de botão? Eu sei que você dá o que falar
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: no Rio de Janeiro, irmão, do botão.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Mas o lance é, você no auge dos seus 15,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: 16 anos, você começa a praticar um esporte que é
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: tipo bocha. É isso aí.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: That's it. You're 100%.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: You summed it up. You summed it up, man.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: You summed it up.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Who was it that said, like, there's something for you.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I went to the Arc Flash when I was 14,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, like me. The guy went to Esgrima
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: with candy.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Chadrez, that's it. Yeah, Chadrez, Chadrez.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That's it. Who was it that introduced you to the button?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: It was my father, once again. You know? Because, like, imagine.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: We had a very strong bond with football. And my
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: father played a lot of button football too. So when
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: he was younger, he used to play with me every
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: now and then, when he had time, at home. He
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: used to tell me his stories, his old buttons, which
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: were totally different. And then I found out that my
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: father became a Brazilian champion, but in another way. When
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: he lived in Brasília, my father is from Maranhão, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he lived in Brasília for a long time. My mother
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: is from Manaus and lived in Rio de Janeiro, so
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: they met here. Wow, what a cool family! And I'm
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: from Rio de Janeiro, I was born in Rio de Janeiro. Cool,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: but I think you have a lot of cultural references
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: at home. Exactly, my mother is from Manaus, my father
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: is from Maranhão, they met here, but my father lived
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: in Brasília for a long time. And then he used
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: to play football there in Brasília and such, ball mode,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: three touches, etc. So, when the soccer part of my
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: life was over, I was still playing futsal, but that dedication,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: day and night, training and.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: All that, it was a little bit of a stop.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: How old were you?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I was 14 or 15. I was playing futsal only
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: at night, so I had more time, more things to do,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: so it was good. And then I started to enter
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: this universe of button football with my father. My father
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: played with me at home, playing, I don't know what.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Then there was a fair in Grajaú, in the neighborhood,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: on Sundays or Saturdays, if I'm not mistaken, there was
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: a football barrack there. So my father started to go
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: with me to that fair. I got to know the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: people there, there were more promotions, there was a little
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: table where you could play, have fun, I started to
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like it, you know? Your father was really good. My
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: father was good, my father was good. And then, after
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that part in Grajaú, my father also started to introduce.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Me to the third and.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Fifth, or second and fifth, At the end of the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Rio de Janeiro subway, there was also a football booth. So,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it was like a little kiosk. And he was giving
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: birth to his son. And the funniest thing was... My
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: father was my reference in that sense. So, I would
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: go to the second and fifth with my father in
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Rio de Janeiro. You were the youngest of those people. Yes,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the youngest.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I had some children with my father, but in general.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Everyone was older and I was the youngest. But it
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was a.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Cool party, a nice party. It must have.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Been really cool. Dude, I used to look at my
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: dad a lot, like, in some moments of my life
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: as a young man, I tried to dress like my dad. So, like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: my dad would go to the Carioca with a sandal,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: with a bermuda, with a shirt, and I tried to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: look like my dad, with the same sandal and all. Man,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: total reference.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: You're the mini version of him.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Then I went there with my dad to the Carioca,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I used to play there and such, but I started
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to improve. I started to get a taste, to try
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to improve, because there was something that was inside me
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: since I was little because of football, which was to compete.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: So I didn't admit to lose, lose and lose. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to improve to win, you know? I think this
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: competitive side was very instilled in me since I was
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: young because of football.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: But you were training at home alone? Directly, bro.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Then I met Carioca, I met Grajaú at the fair,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and then we were introduced to a store that was
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: in Flamengo, in the neighborhood of Flamengo, in Senovergueiro, that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: had a button football store that people would open from
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Tuesday to Saturday, and people would buy there, there were
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: two tables, people would play and exchange ideas from 6 pm.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: From 6 to 10 in the evening, people were playing button,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: exchanging ideas, buying, talking and such. And then, you should
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: have two younger boys and only the older and older guys,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: leaving work and going there to play button and such.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And I started going to this place every day, man.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Every night I went to this place to play button.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: .
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: .
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I was better than most of the people who played,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: but there were people who were still unreachable. And I
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: started playing at Fluminense, because it was closer to home.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I met the guys there, because the guy who organized
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: at Fluminense, called José Alexandre, was the guy who was
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the owner of Feria do Grajaú. I played with my father.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So I already knew him, my father knew him, everything
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: was fine, I went there. And right when I arrived
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: at Fluminense, there was a team brazilian, you know? Which
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: is a button team championship, where several Brazilian teams play.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And the team is made up of four people playing live.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: One against the other here, another table here, another against
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the other. And the winner is the one who won
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the round, you know? And then there was a selection
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: at Fluminense to see who would be the representative of
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the team. And then the young man there, I arrived... Man,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I passed the serol in the selection, you know? And
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I kind of won the spot of the guys who
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: were there for a long time. And then I went
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to play for Fluminense, a Brazilian team, we were good,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we were champions and all, but everything was fine, Brazil
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: was a team. But from there, I started to get
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of intimacy, a lot of friendship with people
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: who weren't from Fluminense, from outside Fluminense, who was the
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: main team in Brazil at the time, it was Maxwell,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: who later became Flamengo, you know? And then they called
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: me to play there, it was the best team in
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Brazil at the time, I said, damn bro, they want
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: me to play there.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: The team was called Maxwell.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It was Maxwell, it was in Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: on Maxwell Street.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Damn, the team was called Maxwell.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: And then they called me to play, but when the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: season ended, I was going to play there at Maxwell,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: it was the transition process that they were going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: leave there and play for Flamengo, you know? And then
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I went to play in Flamengo with the guys. You're
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: going to take it in your ass. The guy is Vascaíno,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: he ran Rio de Janeiro all the way with the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: shirt of other clubs.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: To play for Botão.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But I'm happy that I played for Vasco too. In football,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: not for Botão, but I played for Vasco. But I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: think it's just the sensation of playing.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: In what levels did you win? How did it go?
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Because we found out that you are really well-known. The
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: people like you a lot in this universe. But how
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: many championships did you win? What happened? What makes you crazy?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: We're not in the button bubble, so we don't even
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: manage the championships that exist. So, bro, like that, in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the button, in Brazil, there's the Brazilian Brazil Cup, which
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: is periodically disputed, you know? Which are the individual ones,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and there are teams every year. So, teams is what
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I told you, there are four people playing for the
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: same team live, and the round is counted, and then
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it's done. Okay, calm down, just a question. When are.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: A team game, 4 vs 4. Do you have to
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: respect each other? Or you can play 4 times in
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: a row?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: No, no. One only moves the ball, the other only
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: moves the attack.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: No, I'll show you.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: For example, here... Are you going to show me? Calm down.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Enter the button. Enter the button. Respect, if you're going
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: to show it, show it here. Let's show it, showing it.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Show it on the field.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Because when you're showing it, you're showing it. I'm going
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: to be humiliated here, because I'm going to make a mistake.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I'm retired.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: What humiliated? What humiliated? Humiliated, humiliated. This one, first of all,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: this button here is.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: He's the most.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I think you should bring it so he can talk
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: on the microphone.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Let me bring it here. But is this yours?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It looks like it has a little grass, right? It's
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: well done. In my time it was just wood and wood.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It's like this, imagine that the table is much bigger
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: than this, you know? The table is a big table.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: But imagine that me and Mítico play for one team
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and play for the other. Like this, I play for Flamengo...
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Is it a table like this?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Or smaller?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's a little smaller, but I think it comes.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: From here to here.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, table. Table. And then we are a confrontation. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: then there are two other people from each team in
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: another confrontation, another table, playing. Then there are four tables,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and if I win one of them, it's a victory
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: for my team. Is it like yours? Then it's 2x2, 3x1.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: It's individual, but in a team. And then at Flamengo
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: we won several Brazilian team titles, because the team was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: very cool. And I only got to play one full
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: individual stadium, because in an individual stadium you have to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: play several stages every weekend. A lot of games.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It's long. Yeah, man, it's long.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So, you can't miss anything if you don't lose points
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff. So, basically, I played one year in the state,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I managed to be champion overall, and I played one
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: individual brazilian, I won, I won a Brazil Cup. And then,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: after that, I was like, man, I was already 18
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: years old, 19, the interests change too, college, you have
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: to study, I don't know what, then every weekend I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: play butão. I was already starting to play soccer at college.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It was already more interesting. You were already the champion
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of the club. I stopped playing. I was playing only
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: teams from time to time. And individually, I kind of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: conquered everything I could conquer playing only once. And then
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I stopped after that.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: But you can be professional.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: You can make a career as a football player.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: But make money?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: No.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: You just spend. It's like a hobby. It's an amateur sport, right?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: For those who love it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: For those who love it. You spend money with your team,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: you spend money with the championships, you pay the registration,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you don't make any money. You just spend. Oh, Alan.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: How do you show here on the mythical button an
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: infallible play, brother? Well, it's because it's very different, you know?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I know it's different. I've seen you playing and it's
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a totally different button. Yeah, it's big, the table and stuff. Like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: this table looks like.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Don't start with Miguel, brother.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: What's the difference between this button and a professional?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Man, this button here is that entry button, right? That
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you used to play with, that you get a gift.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: The professional button is a 6-in-1 button, big, heavy. 6-in-1 button,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: there are several materials, you can put chips, pearls. So
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: this here for you is like an amateur. Yeah, but
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I think the first time I played with my dad
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: was something like that. A table this size that we
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: put on the table and played.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Next time I'll ask the production to prepare a table
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: No, we'll ask. You can put fire on this. But
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: it's cool. Can you give an.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Example, at least a kick? No, so... This is the.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Pick you use to hit the buttons, you know? Fuck!
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. Yeah, I don't
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: know how to do that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: No, do it, it's easy, man.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Here, look. You pick the button here.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Look, it comes to the ball.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Oigão is mocorongo, man. Oigão is mocorongo, man.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, put it like this. Like this? Forward.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Like this. See how I don't know? That's because people
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: usually do it like this at the beginning, you know?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But it's harder. Then you lean forward, which will give
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you more strength, you know?
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Look.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: You put it forward like this. This is good for.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Your physical health, right, man?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Then you always put force on the tip until you
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: let go. Then, did you turn it on?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Fuck, I can't.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Seriously, man, I did the opposite. I also did. I
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: pressed here, I did like this. It's like this, man.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: A simple touch of the guy has already changed your button.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: And then the girl, every time, like this, makes that
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: big joke of putting the little finger in front, here,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: so the button doesn't come out. Then the kick goes stronger,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: you know? But you can't do that in the federation.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: There are rules. But there are.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Some things that you can steal.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: On the street. Like doing that bicycle thing that you
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: put the ball down here. Then you push the button
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and it goes up. Then you put the finger. The
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: button is cool, right?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It's old, but it's cool. It's cool as fuck.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: It's because in my time, you put the finger and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: it goes up. Fuck, Rolaço, did you film? You didn't
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: get the goal, man. You didn't get the goal, man. Damn,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the guy scored badly. But it was a great goal.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Seriously, guys. But the story is told.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Put the replay, Alex. Alex is going to put the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: replay now. Put the replay, Alex. Get this button out
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of here, man.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I used to play with a nail. Have you ever
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: played with coins? Dude, I had a little table. I'm serious.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: No, I had a little table. I don't know if
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: you had. It was a little table that had the coins.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: You put a little coin and it went to the phone.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: That would be great too. I played a lot of this.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: So, I played a lot of this.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: This was good. It's because, man, it's very crazy. You
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: don't give me age, I think, right?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I'm 29.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: 29?
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I'm 35.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: 35.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Ah, but it's the same age. Like, man, when I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: graduated from high school, there was no WhatsApp yet. Like,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: few people had WhatsApp. The third year of high school,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: there was WhatsApp, man. It was Facebook and stuff.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: What?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: You didn't have it on the internet. My cell phone
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: was normal. Yeah, exactly. My cell phone was normal. So, like,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: when we were younger, in my childhood, it was cool.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: It wasn't cell phone and playing games. You're crazy.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I took the dictionary, which was an obligation. I took
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: the dictionary in my backpack.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: No, the calculator was the calculator. The calculator, the calculator. So,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the games were different. You lived on the streets, played
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: soccer on the streets. You used to play button, pawn, ping-pong.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: You used to make paper balls.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: You used to play on the streets.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine kids playing on the streets today. When
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I lived there, there were some.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Little streets where the class would end in the afternoon,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and we used to play ball until the parents would call.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Until the first dad would yell,'' Hey!'' Exactly. There's always
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: a father who ends up with soccer. Always.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And usually it's the ball's fault too.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Damn, what a hell. Because the team is always counted.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: And then there will always be that mother a little
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: more boring who will call first.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Then she called first. Yeah, I already call Igor too.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I already call Alan too. And then everyone is already there.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: What a shit. Damn, you remembered childhood.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Man, there was a day that you played for the last.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Time on the street, brother. And you didn't even know
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: it was the last time.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: It's true, man. It's true. The last exit that my
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: mom said... You don't even remember.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: 10 hours to go home, huh? Man, if you had
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: the condition to go back in time to be a
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: child again, would you go.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Back to Maradão?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I would go back now, man. Press this button now.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Are you serious? I would go back now, man.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Press this button now. For real, man.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: But to go back to live life again or one
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: day as a kid?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I think I'd like to live one more day, man.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I'd like to live one more day, too. Let's close
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: it like this, like a vacation. A month going back
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: to 15 years old. No, 15 is too much responsibility.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I'd like to have 11. It's too good, man.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: It's too good, man.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to 2012, man. Is it possible?
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: No, not there. 2012 I don't like.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: 2005. It can be, it can be. Because 2012 is
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: complicated for me. He talks about food. And for me
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it was traumatic. Wow, brother. I imagine because I felt
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: being on your skin for a few seconds. Man, it
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: was one of the big discussions at home between my
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: dad and my mom that day, bro. Why? Because I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: was watching a game in the living room. In 2012? 2012.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Corinthians vs Vasco, out of the house, you know?
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: And then, bro.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I was sad. Vasco takes the goal. Diego Souza loses
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the goal. Vasco loses to Corinthians. We had a sofa
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: at home, bro. I think that It was a moment
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: of anger. I was young, I couldn't control it, but
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I punched the sofa and it broke. My mom came
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to eat me in the ass. My dad said, help,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: leave him. It's better to help my mom, right? Help,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: leave him. Let him live this suffering. I'm going to
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: control it, you know? My dad came and talked to me,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: he didn't do this, I don't know what, he stayed
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: with me. It was my first lack of control with
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: soccer in relation to Vasco.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Actually, your dad was celebrating. Oh, boy, that's it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to be able to break everything.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: .
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: .
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Mano, é bom de... É mó papo de velha
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: essa porra, mas é bom, mano. Não, eu gosto de
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: ser saudosista já.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Não, é bom, é bom, é bom, mano.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: É bom demais.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: É bom.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Pô, os joguinhos que a gente jogava quando o bagulho
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: disseminou assim, porra, a galera hoje joga Clash, o Rayar,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: o Segura... A galera não sabe o que é jogar
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: o Play 2.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Você jogava Tazer, mano?
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Mano, você batia Tazer com o jogacinho que vinha no
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Fandangos e no Castolinha, lembra?
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Ou com o Tazer mesmo, mas mesmo assim... Não, não
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: era bom, era bom de bater bapho.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Baffo. Baffo de figurinha. Eu roubava. Eu era ruim.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Postazos. Época do geloco da Coca-Cola. Você é louco, cara.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Não sabia se podia falar Coca-Cola. Pode, pode, pode.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Eu tive muitos gelocos. Você sabe o que é geloco?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Sim, mas.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Não sabe.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Não sabe. É aquele bonequinho que você trocava.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: No posto de gasolina você trocava. Ô, mano, vocês me
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: tiram pra novo, mas eu sou.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I take a lot of baths and a lot of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: new boys.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I'm an old dude. I don't know if he was
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: just straight.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know what he was. I remember some weird dolls,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: kind of fluorescent, with a head that had a little pin.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: That's it. You exchanged it at the post office.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: You were biting it at the post office.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: No, very cool, G-Locos. Holy shit.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: And my dad had a house there, but... This wasn't
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: from my time, but he had saved it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Junior Baiano.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Mini Cracks. Mini Cracks.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I had some too.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I had some too.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Or Ronaldo's, it was identical.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: There was even a game, I think it's called Gulliver.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Gulliver.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: You would come and give a little pat on the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: back of the doll and it would shoot the ball
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: in the goal.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: That's really cool.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: It's really good. People don't know what it's like to
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: play a Play 2 for the first time. They don't know.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: And wait to see if it will turn on or not.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: The memory card is there.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: People already have a very cool game on their cell phones.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: I swear I was the guy who played only the
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: first three screens of all games. I didn't know what
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: a memory card was. So I played Crash, always the
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: same screens.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Then my cousin arrives with a memory card, and for
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: me that was the biggest technology I've ever seen in
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: front of my eyes.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I said, what?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: We can turn it off and go back to where
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I was? Life change. What? What is this? You know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I left the house sober.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: And who had it?
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: It came with a bag with the memory cards.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: And the bag with the pirate CD from Bomba Pet.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: From the games. And the Game Shark?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Game Shark I didn't get.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Game Shark?
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: You don't get it?
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: It was a CD that had the codes of some games.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: You're crazy, Mítico. Game Shark.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Game Pass.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I wrote down the GTA codes to put there to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: get the weapon, I don't know what, jetpack.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Besides the GTA, which is the most common that we
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: know that has codes and such.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, Castlevania also had. All games had.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: All games have some codes. So this Game Shark, it
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: kind of unlocked kind of all.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: So, but I was very frustrated, bro. Because, like, I
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: just knew how to play the soccer game. I'll give
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: you an example. Like, near my house, there was a
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: rental company. At the time, it was a rental company, right?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: It didn't exist, like, to rent something, to buy an
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: online game. No, I saw the Blu-ray coming. Yeah, exactly.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: There was a rental company that rented video game games,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you know? And, man, there was one time that the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: guy made the mistake, right? Of trying to rent a
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: different game. I said, man, everyone plays this shit, I'm
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: going to play. It was Zelda. Dude, I rented the game,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I spent one day not leaving the tutorial and I
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: came back saying that it was broken. To change the game.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Why couldn't I do this tutorial?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Because I was... I just knew how to do it.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. And everyone calls me an idiot
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: for today because of that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: No, you just wanted something to.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Shoot, fly away.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: The truth is soccer, man. I only played soccer and
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: GTA at the time. He played soccer, in fact, 38
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: different ways. Soccer with a button. Soccer, life, gym, beach.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: But okay, so when did the internet come into your life?
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: It was unexpected, it was too late.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Because I got to go to college of accounting.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I went to the UN, did the accounting. How long? Dude,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I did three periods. In the first period, I was late, right?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't take the first call, I took the second call. So,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I entered the classes. In the middle of the class.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And then, you take, I think, five subjects in the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: first period, which is Accounting I, which is what you're
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: going to do in your job, and such. Then, you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: took Macroeconomics, Microeconomics, Calculus and Administration.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: What is that? Just top subjects. Yeah.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: He was talking, he opened a smile.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I wanted to go to this college now.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Man, but, dude, I tell the kids who follow me,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: who are more than 9 and such, Man, there is
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: a colossal difference between public and private schools. Because in
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: private schools, it's an extension of the high school. It's
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: like you're living in a high school in your adult life.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You can miss it, go there. It's all accessible to you.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: If you lose something, you can recover it and such.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: In public schools, you, because you studied or didn't study,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to know if you're there, studied. So, like,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I lost some classes because I entered later, the teacher
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, just go to the library and turn around,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: you know? The problem is yours. Then I managed to
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: get the administration, Calculus, I failed because, man, at the time,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: at the university, at UFRJ, there was a professor who
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: was Indian, and I couldn't, like, follow his class, it
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: was very complicated. He was Indian? Indian indeed, there are
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: several professors who are of other nationalities, right?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: But Indian is f * * * ed.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: So then I couldn't follow, I failed in Calculus, I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: passed in Macro and Microeconomics, and Accountability. Was he speaking
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: English or Portuguese? No, Portuguese, but that Portuguese was messed up.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: So it was picture, annotation, general copying, came picture, annotation again.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: What was his subject?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Calculus 1.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: F * * *, stop.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, accounting, I hated it, man. And it
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: was the course, right? Accounting, you go to accounting, I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: hated accounting. I said, man, there's no way. But what
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: did you think?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Man, everything, man.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: There's no football here.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't like it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And then I turned to my mom and my dad
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: and said, man, I hated accounting. I don't know if
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it's for me. And, like, I had some contacts at
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the time of Futebol de Botão, because the guys worked
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: in accounting companies. They said, man, do it, we'll give
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you an internship, I don't know what, we'll pull you.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: It's going to be great. So it was a lifelong life.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: When I decided to do accounting. Because I had many
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: friends there. We choose what... Who can help me? What uncle?
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: What neighbor? I'm going to do this. I had several
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: friends from Botão who were accountants and had a company,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: worked for a big company and such. I said, man, okay,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this. The guys have money. I
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: saw them with financial success. The guys full of money
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to buy Botão, of all the money. I said, man,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: fuck this. I also want to have this money. Then
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I went to do it. Then I hated accounting. I
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: came to my mom and said, man... Mano, what if
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I try to pull at the same time, we take
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: a bag there and pull it to do journalism. And
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: then she left, she said like this, go. Because like this,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I went there in the band and as I had
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: passed the Neném to public schools, they let me take
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: a bag that gave X % on top of the monthly,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: so it was accessible to my mother. So I started
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: doing both colleges at the same time, journalism in the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: band and accounting at FRJ. I did a period and
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: a half like this. And then I closed the accounting
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and stayed only in journalism, you know? Because I liked
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: it a lot, I felt at home there, it was
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: what I wanted and such, and I started to test myself.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: And then, man, I took the first beating, right? Like this,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: right when I was in the second period of journalism,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: third period, I tried to study the selective process for
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the iterative sports, which was right there in the college, so...
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of students who were from competitive sports.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: And it was like the entrance door of the sports
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: market in Rio de Janeiro. What a fucking cool place. Exactly.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: So I went there. A friend of mine who worked
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: there spoke to me. He said, dude, do the interview
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I did the interview and didn't pass. You
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: were in the second period. Second period. Very raw still.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Raw interview. I had never done an interview for a job.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: So I got nervous, giggling, I didn't know.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: What to say and stuff.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Normal. And then I didn't pass. I took my first
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: beating because I said, dude, if this door here closes...
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: there are not so many doors open in the sport
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: journalism market in Rio de Janeiro. There is Globo, which
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you hardly enter first, without an indication or experience of
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: previous work, and there are some radio companies, which are
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: more difficult to get, and pay very little at the time,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the internship was R $ 300, R $ 350, and
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: then I said, fuck it, but it's okay, I'll try
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: to continue here in college, more time, etc., And then,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: when it came out, there at Futebol de Butão, a
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: friend works at a beer company, which was a brewery,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to say the name because I can't,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: but he worked there, and he said, man, we need
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: a communication person here. Come here and work with us.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I said, I will. First, work experience, I'm going to
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: work in the center of the city. I'm going to
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: make some money.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: A beer company, I started to be introduced to this market,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I liked it, and so on, and so on.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And first, work, you know? Let's go, man. I went
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: to work, I went to work, I went to see
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: what was there. Then I got there, I started doing things,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't know how to do several things that were
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: still asked there, because I was still raw, because imagine
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: that it was a small prison, so it was one
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: person to be responsible for the whole area. So the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: communication was all with me, the administration was all with
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: another guy, the logistics was all with another guy. So, man,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I had to do everything, from the label design, to
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: social media, to photographic rehearsal, to everything, man. So I
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: learned a lot there too, but I think I was
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: indebted to a lot too, because I was a raw
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: guy still, very young, you know? So, man, it took
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: six months there, and I was already in the fourth
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: grade of college. And then, man, I felt that, man,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to roll, because I'm not able
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to meet the demands of the brewery. And then, man,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: a week came and the guy said like this, man,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: we admire your effort and such, you're a good guy,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: you're here with us and such, but, man, we're going
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: to need to count on other support and work for
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: your area. Then they counted on an agency to do
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: the things they said, and I was going to resign,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: you know? Then I said, okay. Mano, the day I
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: got out of the dismissal, the woman from the police
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: station called me. Because I had done their selection process again,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I had gone through some stages, but I was locked
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: up for a year in the process when they opened
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the vacancy. So, like, I didn't have a vacancy. But
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you were there in line. I was in line, but, like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: it had already been almost a year. Because, like, as
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: soon as I was rejected, I waited about six months,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: a year, and tried again. But you were wrong.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: So, at that time when you received the call, you
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: weren't even thinking that you could be there.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Nothing, zero, zero. And then I received the call, they
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: recovered my process. and they wanted to do an interview
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: with me, because, like, then I found out with a
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: friend of mine, Thiago Sani, the panda, like, he was there.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: The panda?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: He saw that they opened vacancies at Pós-Terrativo, he saw, like,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: that I wanted to work there for KC, I was
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: working in a company, this time, in a business, because
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: I wanted to work, because my mother was also charging me, like, like, bro,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: go work, you have to work.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Salary, salary. Exactly. Take care of your things, pay your
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: bills and stuff, because you can't just keep banking, you know?
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: And then I got the call, I went, and then, man,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the woman introduced me to the company, told me that
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I was in the right process, did the interview, I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: was passing, boom, I was approved. Like, right when I left,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I got the call, I was approved, and I went
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: to where I always dreamed of working, you know? It
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: was a shock, like, to get there. Happy as hell. Very, very, very,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: very happy. And I started the alternative sports history, so, like...
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: But I imagine, like, because... Look.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: When I entered McDonald's... It sounds like a joke, but
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: it's true. It was dazzling to me, because I was
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: entering a very big company and I was going to
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: know the inside of it.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: How does it work? So, imagine you entering on TV.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Sports Interactive is a TV. Yes. So, young, it must
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: have been scary for you. Man, scary. Fuck, Onder Heinen.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about soccer. Dude, what am I
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: going to do? I'm going to talk to which person?
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I'm imagining.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Tell me the beginning of your experience, bro. You got
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: there to do what? What did the intern Alan do
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: at the I? So, bro, it was fantastic, bro.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Because you... When you enter the company, you can't imagine
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that things are made by people who say like this. Dude,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: this guy is talking to me, with me, with me,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: with me. This guy came out of here. Then you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: see Andre Reina in the newsroom talking. Then the ant.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Then the VSE. And everyone is accessible, you know? And, like,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: on the third or fourth day of the company, I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: got to... at the time of my stage, in the afternoon,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I get on the elevator, someone comes and puts his
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: hand on the door to wait for the person. It
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: was Zico, he got on the elevator with me. And
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Zico is from Flamengo, but Zico is a spectacular person.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Everyone says he's amazing, right?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: He's a person, a human being. He didn't know me,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: he got on the elevator, asked who I was, how
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I was, if he was enjoying iterative sports, and so on.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: We got on the elevator, we got in the newsroom talking,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: he did what he had to do, and I sat
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: on my bench.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: It was fantastic.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I was amazed.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Doesn't Zico have the impression that he doesn't know he's Zico?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know he's Zico. He talks to everyone. He
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: walks down the street, someone greets him, he says hi,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: takes a picture. It's impressive. Impressive, man. Impressive.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: So, on the fourth day, you were like.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. But what did you do? I want to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: know the first tricks.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I worked doing material for Futebol Internacional. So, like... There
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: was a site that had a lot of access. Facebook
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: at the time, like... There was a lot of people clicking.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Clickbait era, up there.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Remember?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I remember. Man, you got this... Pre-pandemic is this, man.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Pre-pandemic still. This was 2017. Was it 17, Laine? 17?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I don't remember either. I think it was 17. Put
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: it there. And then, like, bro, I got in there,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: we talked a lot and posted on social media. More
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: material than post, because post was Cazé, for example. And
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Champions on Facebook, I just remembered. Yeah, so, like, I
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: sat at the bench, Cazé was on my side.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Man, what a fool he is.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I knew him there. Like, like, I already doubted that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Cazé was Cazé because of his character on Twitter, right?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Because he was Renato Rutz.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: So, like, they told me that this guy was Cazé,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: he was Vasco Aeno, he was Vasco Aeno.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: How did you know him? What character was he?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: He had a profile on Twitter, which was Corneteiro pra
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Cacete do Vasco, which was Renato Rutz's name, who played
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: a game with Renato Silva, the Vasco's defender. And he
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: was a cornet player, I was on Twitter at the time,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: like Alan, changing ideas. I answered him from time to time,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I knew. Cazé was Cazé and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: he worked in competitive sports, I didn't know that. And
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: then I got there, they introduced me to him and said,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: do you know this guy you talked about? It's Cazé,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: he's here. And he worked by my side, because he
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: made posts for social media, he was a phenomenon. What
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: a guy, man. Engaging art, I don't know what, Facebook
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and such. I met Cazé at Sola. And then we
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: became friends a lot, because we were Vascaíno, we liked FIFA,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: we talked about FIFA from time to time in the breaks,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. We used to work together.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Do you know what was your first article? The first
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: thing you said was.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: The first thing you said. It's very funny because when
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: you arrive at the company, you think about it. I'm
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: going to think about a lot of articles, mirabolant, journalistic
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: and such. And then you start to understand that rending
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: is not that, man. So you take a beating. An
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: ideological beating of journalism.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: How did you realize that?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Because, for example, I enter the iterative sport, then there
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: was Champions as the head of the thing. Then I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: started thinking about how to play Liverpool, how to do
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: a tactical scheme, how does Jürgen Klopp do to contain Guardiola,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: a young dreamer. I'm going to show all my footballing
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: skills now, everything I know will come in here. And
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: when you see a speculation of a player going to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: another team, it's worth more click, it's worth more audience,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: so in the end, this metric helps this speculation and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: not the subject you want to make beautiful. So, like,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: during the process, I was taking some ideological steps, I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: was understanding how things worked, not only there, but also
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: on the internet at the time, you know? So, like,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of people say, like, man, clickbait is shit.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I also think it's ideologically horrible. In college, you learn
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: that it's horrible. But in the end, what pays the
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: company's bills is access. Access sells sponsorship and you have
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: to make access enter. So it was a clickbait machine
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: at the time.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: You've done some clickbaits.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Absurd.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that you can comment that you said,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: my God, this one.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I was f * * * ed. Dude, there's a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: clickbait that I didn't do. But I wanted to send
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: a hug to Rodrigo Belo, who did this clickbait. He
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: remembered a lot about this clickbait. No, this is fantastic, bro.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: We were all in the redaction and Flamengo had hit
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the counter-redaction of Anderson Varejão. for basketball. And then, the MFM,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the best international football, was together with the Olympic sports department,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: which took care of both games and Olympic sports. Basketball, volleyball, gymnastics, etc.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Same room. So, we were in the room, Flamengo hired us,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and the guys asked us how we could sell this material. Then,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: it became a couple in the room, and the guy said,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: let's sell the material. And then when you sell the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: article on Facebook, you put it like this, those titles
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: call like, bomb, Flamengo hits the contract, I don't know what.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Then they sell the article, bomb, Flamengo hits the contract
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: of giant reinforcements. Then, bro, the shield of Flamengo and such,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: player of the national team, pa. Man, when they release
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: the article, bro, access explosion, bro. Everyone reading like this, bro,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: going up, going up, going up, going up, going up.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Then I open the article, Anderson Varejão. Negocionando que era.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Reforço de futebol, Anderson Varejão.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: E todo mundo rindo pra caralho, mas é foda, faz
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: parte do sistema. Mas esse clickbait eu tô do lado. Ah,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: eu não tô não, mano. Eu tô do lado desse.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Desse aí eu tô do lado. Não é mentira, mano. É,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: não é mentira.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: O que me fode é o cara, se ele tivesse,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: sei lá, feito algo manipulado.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Ou é mentira por mentira.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Sabe o que acontecia muito também? Por exemplo, quando eu
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: tinha alguma... We got the Neymar-Barça-PSG era, and there were
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of transfer speculations at that time. It was
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: really bad. The one who got it right with Beckler
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: was Neymar-PSG, and it was really bad. And at that time,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of news speculations. A lot, a lot,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: a lot. So, what happened a lot was, for example,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Mbappé has a younger brother, who is also PSG. It's Kylian,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: isn't it? I don't know if it's Kylian, but I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: think it's Mbappé, obviously. And then... Whenever there was any news, like,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: of the youngest brother speculating about a team, it was
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Mbappé on the subject, man. Why Mbappé? Because it's Mbappé. Then,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Neguabri would.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Get pissed, you know?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: But it's part of... You had to hit... Like, we
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: had a metric... A metric, no. A metric of clicks
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: we had to hit on the week, you know?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: So, like.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to... You can't... Imagine, there are 5
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: people working in the newsroom, hitting the subject. Are you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: going to be the last one to access? You won't.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: So, sometimes, you hadn't generated so many clicks, you say, man,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I'm going to put a subject here just to give
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: a cause.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: No, it's because, like, there were subjects, portals that we
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: saw out there, like, Daily Mail, The Sun... They release
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: dozens of speculations in England, in Europe and so on,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: that we know won't happen, you know? We know it
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: won't happen. It's just to generate an issue.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: But they release it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: We just replicate it. What we do is post the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: article they put and put it in the European newspaper.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: It's their responsibility, you know? Is that bad, journalistically speaking?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: It's horrible. And I say that to this day. So
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed of having done it because it was
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the way I managed to deliver the work I had
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: to deliver. And if I didn't do that, I would
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: be left behind in the company. I wanted to grow
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: in the company. But others were going.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Others were going to do it.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: So if I didn't do it, I was going to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: be left out. I wanted to be a competent worker
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: in the delivery of results that I had to deliver there.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: And what did I want? To be as competent as possible.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I would understand the process. I was going to try
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: to do something once in a while that would follow
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: well journalistically saying that there. And man, I wanted to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: grow in the company, you know? So I wouldn't stop
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: doing the stuff they asked me to do. So, like,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: when I got there, it was an absurd shock for me, like,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: because I looked at the people doing something and I said, man,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: this is not going to happen, this is bad. You
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: were coming from college, right?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: College, right.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: So you were coming from the theory. The theory, I'm
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: going to apply the theory, I'm going to apply it.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Here I'm not going to let anything.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Pass, no. Then you.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to have to. Yeah, so fake news. But, like,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that I had a boss who was a
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: lot of good people with me, that he understood what
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I was pleading ideologically speaking. and explained to me that,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: in practice, it didn't always work. That the market was
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: positioning itself that way, I had to deliver that way,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: even though everyone there agreed that it wasn't ideal. But
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: if you don't sell the article, the company won't make money.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: How will the access to the site be? How will
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the commercial remuneration be in relation to this?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to lie, you weren't lying, man.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: What I think is cool about clickbait is that it
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: takes it to the other side, which is dangerous, maybe
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: it will generate a curse, violence, something But that's not
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: a lie.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: And clickbait dominated the internet for a long time, right? YouTube, everything, man.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: YouTube's thumb.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: YouTube's thumb. Until today, man. So that's it.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: And then there was a guy there, a specific one
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: in the post-it, who was funny, who said like this,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: you're not going to lie to anyone. You're going to
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: choke curiosity of those who are seeing what you're writing.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Like this, if you're going to publish a article, you're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: going to choke the guy's curiosity in some way. You're
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: not going to lie. E aí eu fui entendendo, tá ligado?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: E aí eu fazia isso no começo do esporte atrativo.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Bati a matéria pra cacete. E aí, mano, eu era bom, né?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Cliquei bem depois, tipo assim, eu tinha várias ideias legais
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: e comecei a dar muito resultado. Qual foi a sua
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: primeira experiência na internet? Aparecendo. I know where it went wrong.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I want to hear you tell. It was at the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: E-Games Cup, bro. I had never played any games in
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: my life. And how long have you been at the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Sports Theater? I was still an intern. I was going
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: to my second year as an intern, I think. I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: think it was 2018, if I'm not mistaken. If it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: was 2017, I forgot. Oh, how new, full of gas.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was 2018 when I was at the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: World Cup.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: It was that. Even the World Cup was the best
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: experience I had in the ideological relationship of journalism. Because
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I covered the Portugal group, which was a cool group,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: with sports. and such, and we could have the freedom
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: to make catalogs of the national team, how they play,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. So, like, there I... You let go.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: There you were the journalist.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there I, like, I think I made Alan happy, like,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the journalist was talking, like, I said, man, awesome. And
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: all of this was in the response of interns, like,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: not only me, but several. So, there, it was very
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: good because of that. You learned in practice to have
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: to do everything, because inside the company there were several interns,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: that made the company happen. How many people left the... Exactly. So, like,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: the guys there, we always say that the bunch is
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: very closed in that sense, because, man, you did everything, man. So, like,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: few people occupying the main chairs and many people occupying
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: the lower chairs, making everything happen. So, like, you worked recording,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: learned to record, learned to edit, learned to make a thumb,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: learned to make a Photoshop post, learned to make material.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: You learned to do everything, you know? Because you had
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: to occupy several spaces at the same time. So it
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: was great for us in that sense. And then the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: E-Games Cup came up, and I was in the newsroom,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: with a very close-up of international football games, and we
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: knew what was happening. And Cazé was already making the transition,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: because he was already casting for Di Sola, so Cazé
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: was not just posting on social media anymore, he was
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: casting for Di Sola, and he started to be tested
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: as an E-Games presenter, because he had a picture of him... No,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: that was on YouTube already. I remember there was one
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, bro, of FIFA. It's because EI Games replicated
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: his videos on Facebook, you know? Because Facebook was very strong.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: So he was the presenter of FIFA on YouTube and Facebook,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: which was a FIFA board of EGames. And he presented
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: EI Games later to be support for Otávio Neto, when
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Otávio couldn't present, and Ferrantini too, who presented at the time.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: And then he started doing everything there, in games too.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: So he became a guy who stopped being a social
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: network and started doing several things. And he knew me,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: because we worked together, he knew I liked to watch FIFA.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: And many times, after going home, after working, we went
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: to the club, we played FIFA and talked nonsense. Who
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: was better? Ah, in FIFA I think I was better
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: than Kazepo.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: He also only played football all his life, right? At
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: least in FIFA.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: And he already retired both of them. I was better. Yeah,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the rest, forget it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, dude.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: It's over. But then, like, as he knew me... We
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: used to play FIFA online, on Discord, talking nonsense, watching
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: everyone who does live. We used to watch on Discord, offline,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: playing FIFA when we got to work. And then, I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: think someone didn't confirm the casting of the Copa eGames,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: which was with influencers. And I think it was missing
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: a vacancy. And there was no way to fill it immediately,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: because it was to be recorded the next day. And then,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Kazé and Bruna, who were the game staff, came up
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: with the idea of putting a character from the EI
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: intern to represent the post-generational interns that there was all
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the time, any post that there was from the EI.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: The intern is doing shit, this is a post-generational intern,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: there was an intern from the EI, etc.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: It was already a character. It was a character from
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: social media in general.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Man, how crazy, they created a character to later personify
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: in you, isn't that crazy for you?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: It's very crazy, because there was this person from the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: intern who did the bullshit. on social media, so much
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: so that there was a time when the big news
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: was that Gabiru died, right? That was the news. And
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Gabiru hadn't died. It was a fever to talk to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: the AI intern. He posted shit. He had to quit
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Wow, I don't remember that. Yeah, the AI
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: gave a... Damn, I was scared for three seconds. I
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, Gabiru died? I said, no. No, there was
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: a gaffe like that. I know who did it. I'm
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: not going to say it because it's muscular.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: No, please.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: But I know who did it. But, like, there were
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: several gaffes over time. Because it's hard for you not
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: to make a post quality mistake like AI does, right? So, like.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: There's Gabriel, who worked at Esporte Interativo, who works here
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: with us today. He said he had a goal of
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: posting 10 posts a day.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Only him, except the rest, right? Yeah, you know?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: It's just the guy, 10 posts. I think I said little.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: So, like, we had a schedule of posts on the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Instagram of Esporte Interativo, on the site, that, like, man,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: every 25 minutes there was a post to leave. The
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: whole day, like, straight. Only at dawn, which was, like,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: one in an hour. The rest was 25 minutes, go.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: There has to be a post. And at the time
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: of Champions, it was a post every minute.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of posts, man. So much so
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: that at the time, he only lost to Bleach, he
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: was engaged on Instagram. Esporte, you know? Because Bleach was European,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: it was fantastic. I remember that on Facebook, it was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: the biggest Facebook in the world. It was, that's it.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: So it was a lot of posts, it was a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: lot of work, you know? Then you went to the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: FIFA camp. I went to the FIFA camp, because I
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: was missing and I had this person as a mask
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: to be a curious person, because who is the Interactive
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Sports Stadium, who is playing and such. And then I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: won this Copa eGames, then the curiosity of the people
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: increased and I said, man, who is this guy who
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: is playing FIFA well and such, who is Guildo Acazé
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: in the final and such, who is it? Then I
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: didn't like it. Ah, Indolira, who was there, then Rafifa,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: who is there, I don't know who he is, and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: no one knew who he was. And then they decided
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: to do a challenge, which was to win the Copa
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: eGames of Pro Player, who was Alan Castelo at the time,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: against the winner of the Influencers, who was the post-laternal intern.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: And they did this challenge in the end, to replicate.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the Influencers you won, knocking down in
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: the championship?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Man, I remember I won from Kazé, I remember I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: won from Marcos Castro, the Marcos Castro from YouTube, thanks.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I remember that I won against João Tavares, I remember
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: that I won against... I don't remember. There was also
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: the guys from Casting, I think that Luizinho played. The
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: guys played, so there were these guys.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: It was a good journey.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a good journey. And then they put a challenge
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: of mine with Alan Castelo, who was the winner of
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: the Pro Players, to do a challenge to replicate the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: World Cup final, which was France and Croatia. He played
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: with Croatia and I played with France, because they were
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: the challenger. They gave me this moral. I won him
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: in the final. He was pro player and.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: I was the champion of the influencers.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: He must have been very pissed.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: The worst thing is that he was calm. I said, cool,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I did my mission here. But how did you behave
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: at that moment?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Did you joke?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: What did you conquer? No, a mythical nervousness. For you
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: to have an idea, after that... Because it was so cool,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: the intern giving a punch to everyone, I was going.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: To take a big wave, I was going to send
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: everyone home. So, like, I think that today I communicate badly,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I still speak badly. My speech was much worse, I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: had to do a lot of fono, because I gaguejava
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: a lot, I was very nervous to speak, to communicate
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: to me, so the fono helped me. You communicate really well,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: you communicate really well. No, I think that sometimes when
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I get nervous, I gaguejava more, but it's natural. You're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: a human being. So, at the time, it was much worse,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: but much worse, it was tragic. And then they decided
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: to do a challenge of mine against the most famous
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: character of the time, Rafifa, from PSG, who was a
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: FIFA player from Paris Saint-Germain. So they wanted to do
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: this challenge of Rafifa against an intern from Sports Interactive.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I said, fuck it, man. Then I talked to Kaze,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I said, Kaze, bro, I'm going to record this thing,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: the people were liking the character, the people wanted to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: know who the character was and such, I just don't
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: want to take a beating here to end the character,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: because imagine, if I take a beating from Rafifa, It's okay.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: If this guy isn't that good, thanks. He's going to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: continue his life at Fifando, with KZ presenting, so it's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: all right. Then I said, okay, let's go. He came
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: one day to record. Man, Rafifa, we're good as hell.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: He came to the studio and we went to record.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I couldn't start, man, the video. I was nervous. I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: couldn't say like this, tell the guys at Fifando, welcome
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: to present here a new picture, challenging Pro Play and such.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do that, man. So, like this, KZ came
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: to the studio, To make me a little more relaxed
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and such, because it was my first time presenting something.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Like that, me and Rafifa. There's a lot of people
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: with a fucking team, a lot of people looking at you.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: And then I was very nervous. Then he came to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: the studio, calmed me down and such. I said, bro,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: let's go. And the video is all cut out, because
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I gag several times and it's... It's cut out?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: It's reading the whole video. Yeah, I recorded with Rafifa,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: the game started. Then I boom, 1x0.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Then I boom, 2x0. 3x0. Man, I think the game ended,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I think it was 5 or 6x1.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Or 6x0, right?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I was against Rafifo.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: And Rafifo was.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Man, the big name at the time was the Brazilian FIFA,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: you know? I won 6-0. And then, man, I... In
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: the end, I was shocked. So, you were kind of scared,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Happy, kind of... I was shocked. And there's another.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Thing that happens, and you're used to it too, like,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: when you're recording something that displeases someone you invited, it's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: common for people to ask me not to go up,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: or cut, and stuff like that. And there was a
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: world where Rafifo could ask, man, because for his image
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it would be bad to take a beating from a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: guy with a mask playing FIFA.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: And they wouldn't ask for it.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: And Rafifo said, man... Relax, it's your moment, go up,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: post it, everything is fine and let's go. I'm grateful
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: to Rafifa for him until today, because I think he
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: changed my life on that day, you know? And then
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: we uploaded it on YouTube and it was a burst
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: of access, because, man, who is this guy who won
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: from Rafifa from 6 to 0, you know? And then,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: when the recording ended on the same day, KZ said, man,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: upload your profile on Twitter so we can start playing
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: with this shit. Like, you communicate with the people who
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: are following FIFA and we bring you to make FIFA
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: tutorial videos. Like, teaching you how to make a personalized tactic,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: teaching you how to make a shot, a foul, how
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: to hit. For you to build this with the people
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: because you are better than me. And you will be
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: able to give this more technical air of FIFA and,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: at the time, as a showman, give the air of
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: grace of the program. So he built all the FIFA
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: narrative with the audience, and I built the most professional
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: narrative of the thing with historical tips. And things went
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: on like that, kind of like the staff of the EI,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: he was marked as the guy who gave FIFA tips
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and no one knew who he was. And
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: then we started to work on social networks. And from there,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: we started to have the idea, like, man, is it
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: worth it for us to do live? Because we watched
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: a lot, I watched a lot of girls doing FIFA
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: live at the time, you know? So, FIFA Live, Wendell
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Lyra himself, the guys doing live live, I watched a lot.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: And I said, man, is it worth it for us
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to do live and such? Then KZ said, man, I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: also think I want to start doing live and such,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: let's do it. And then, I was going to launch
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: a new FIFA, and we were going to do our
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: first FIFA live, like, outside of YouTube, in our house,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: there on Twitch. And then I went to do it,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: it hit 20 people to watch me, KZ went to
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: do it, I think it hit 150 people to watch him,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: 200 people to watch him.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: And then we started doing it on the same day.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Live and such, and things were happening.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Was Alan already an intern? No, he was the intern.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: The intern of AI, sorry. He was from AI still.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: The arroba. Then.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Then we.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Started like this. I do live masks at home too.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I took the mask to work, the mask to home.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: That mask, man... The cheapest one in Uruguay.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: 12,90.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Rubber.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I was wearing that rubber all day.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Talking with the microphone underneath.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Bad stuff.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Sweating.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: You hadn't shown your face yet?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: No. That was after a year. I was wearing a
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: mask all the time. I was recording with a mask
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: and doing live with a mask. What is that? And
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: then I started doing live every day.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: And it was constructing a little bit of audience.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: It was going from 20 people to 30, to 50,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: to 100 and so on. Then FIFA started to gain
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: more fans, we started to make some really cool videos
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: on FIFA's YouTube channel, and AI allowed us to bring
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: these people from YouTube to our lives as well. So
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: at the end of FIFA we were like, dude, if
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: you want to keep following us, you can do it
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: live on Twitch, both on Casemito's and on Ado AI's channel.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: So people started to have this idea, like, man, whoever
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: follows FIFA at the time would go to the live too.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: And we helped each other a lot. Kazé helped me,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: more people came to my live, then someone helped him,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: more people came to his live.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: So your first lives were just you playing.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Only FIFA. Only FIFA.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Just playing, guys.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And there were some shocking videos from that time, like,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I managed to score 30 wins in 30 matches in
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: the Weekend League. I was going to ask you that now.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: You scored 30? Yeah, I managed to do that once. No, no,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: what do you mean?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: There were 30 matches. And you were.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Just addicted to it. I was just addicted. At the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: time I was good, now I'm horrible, but I learned.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: You were fucking good, bro.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: I managed to do it. Which FIFA did you most guarantee?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: In 2019, because I was the first at that time.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: Mine was in 2017.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Vigão also plays really well. FIFA 17 can come, son.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: But now I don't know. 2018 and 2019 I was good,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: but then I started to get overtaken.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I'm already feeling that I'm old, you know? An eight-year-old comes,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: mingles with me and humiliates me.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: It's very hard, bro. When you decide to show your face,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: And why? It was a joint decision. Otávio and KZ
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: supported me a lot to do this. Bruno too, who
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: was the boss. Because it was an hour, honestly, I
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: was getting into practice and I was going to do
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: it with a mask on. Because the lives started to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: work out very well and I had to do a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: lot of hours of live at home. So imagine that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I worked there on AI, then I did the materials
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: that I kept doing, recorded there 5 hours of Fifando
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: with KZ with a mask on. I would go home
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and do another 6, 7 hours of live with a mask.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: So I would spend 11, 12 hours a day with
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: a mask, you know? And, man, that rubber mask, man,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: my face was all bruised, sweat and stuff. The smell
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: was already fucking horrible. So, like, it started to get bad, man.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: Bad for me. I said, man... People started to doubt
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: who I was. There was a rumor about who I was.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: And there was a group of people who wanted to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: know who you were.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: And I talked to them and asked them to take
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: off their masks and show Alan. Alan can be an intern,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: but he will know who I am.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: They always supported me. They said, man, go, go. I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: think it's time for you to build your identity, your audience.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Don't be just a mask character to be you. And
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I was very afraid of people not liking it, you know?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's fucked. It's disruptive. I watch you in a way...
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: If you don't like me, fuck it. But I think
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: it's much easier to like someone... Looking, right? I also
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: think so. But how was it? That day, when.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: You took it off, you already looked at the chat.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: How was it, man?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: It was a video of AI, right? It was a
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: video of the career mode that we did. We won
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the final of the career mode and did it at
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: the end of the day. We did it as if
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: it were a mistake of... that I take off my
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: mask before I can take it off, and my face
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: shows up, and that's it. And, man, people were very
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: calm about it. I think that for me... You were
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: already a dear to the people. Yeah, like that, both
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and on the lives, it was better, I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: was able to communicate better, I didn't have that microphone
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: inside the mask talking bad, bad noise and such. Identify more.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Identified more and I started to gain more public, so
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: it was really cool, like that, it was a moment...
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I was kind of nervous, I thought, damn, now it's
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: my turn, man. There's no mask left to protect me.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: That you're talking about KZ, man. So you two started
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: live together, helped each other, giving advice to each.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Other, that's cool. Yeah, he had a whole background from Sola,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: because he was very well known. So KZ, at that
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: time of live, was already PJ, right? It was already
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: just casting, you know? He didn't do more material. So
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: he managed to have a calmer time, he works in
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: SBT too, so a lot of people knew him. A
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: lot of people came to the Culturas do Cazé because
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I was already a famous person on the internet, you know?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: So I managed to bring the audience of Fifando, from YouTube,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: who knew me as Máscara, and little by little the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: people who knew Cazé also got to know me because
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: we did a lot of things together, you know? So
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: it was one helping the other there, and he was
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: helping me, and we grew together. So from the first
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: live for 20 people to the audience we have today.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: So it's very cool, this partnership from the beginning that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: we look for each one to be able to build.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: And we talk to each other until today and we say, man,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: that's awesome, that we managed to create a cool path
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: on the internet and we managed to accelerate a process
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: that we didn't expect. In sports journalism, you don't expect
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: to achieve financial independence at the age of 27, 28, 30.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult. These first banks that want to make
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of money, there are very few vacancies for narrators, documentaries, casting,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: and the person will do it only with 40, with 50,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: But when you look at the lives and say, I
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: can only live from this, right? In which moment was that?
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: What were you doing in the live streams? You said
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: you already had an audience, it was already going well.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: I'll leave it here, I told you, we met recently,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: these King's League things and such. It was you and Renato.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: I said, I watch you guys, man, and you doubted.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: I said, I watch, damn it. Renato still watches a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: little more when he talks about soccer.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: You watch kind.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Of everything because we have very similar tastes, bro. Really?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Dude, I watch UFC a lot. I got addicted to it.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: I'm addicted to UFC, so I watch a lot of
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: your stuff and you're reacting to other things too, leaving
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: the area of football alone.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: So, man, one day you go home, you'll see.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: In my recommendations, just the face.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: And I wanted to know when you look and say
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: like this, I already have an audience, it's cool, I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: can keep myself only from the lives, man, I'm going
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: to leave it there.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: So, man, it's hard for me, it was hard at
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: home because, like, when you're in a company that you
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: liked a lot, that you always dreamed of being, and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: you were creating a nice path, because, like, there was
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a moment in the history of creative sports where there
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: was a giant bird, a massive resignation, which was the
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: change from there to TNT. So, like, man, at that moment,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I think there were over 200 fired and very few
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: people stayed in the company, I was one of those.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: Who stayed, like.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: So, I remember that it was a crazy day because
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: we knew that the weather was a bit weird on
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: the previous night and we were producing E-games, you know? So,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: there was me, Otavio, KZ, everyone in the company at
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: 3 am and they made a meeting, everyone on WhatsApp knew,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: at 10 am in a hotel. And then we said
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: like this, bro, it's going to be shit, you know?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: And then, on the previous night, I was talking, bro,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen, what's going to happen, what's going
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: to happen, and they just gave me in mass, bro.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: And then I said, fuck, bro.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: You thought you were... Like this, I just didn't think
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: I was going to run 100% because, bro, I was
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: putting my face on YouTube videos And I was very
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: good in my area of ​ ​ materials and posts. It
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: would be very abrupt if you were not surprised. Yeah,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: but a lot of people who were sent away at
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the time, when they went out to the rooms, many
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: good people, like Pedro Rosa was sent away. A lot
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: of people were sent away at the time because there
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: was no space for the product that people had there
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: at that time, like that, man, there wouldn't be any more,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: it's not even a reporter, there wouldn't be any more
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: team sectorist, there wouldn't be any more, so whoever was
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: a sectorist would go away, a lot of good people,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: you know? So I said, fuck it, man, my mother
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: gave me a third to go to the hotel, you know? Ah,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: how cute, man. I'm always hoping not to be fired,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: because if I was fired there, I think my story
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: would end there, at the stand, you know? And then
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't go, I stayed, I stayed, but about four
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: or five interns, the rest, just a crowd, like that,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: the majority of the company, you know? And as things
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: went on, I said, man, I think there's a way
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: for me here, to walk and get the status that
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: I want in the company in the future. Maybe put
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: the face to comment, not only games, but to comment
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: on sports, football, which is what I've always liked and such, okay.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: But the lives started to work out very well. And
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: then you start to get into that conflict, like, man,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: I earn here R $ 1,500. Then on the live,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: I started to earn, like, with the dollar, right? I
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: started to earn R $ 1,800, you know?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: R $ 1,900.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: I know I can't stop here for an uncertain, okay.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: But there came a moment in my life, like, pre-pandemic,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Because the lives started to work a little better than
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I expected. And with better numbers and with a better remuneration.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: And I started to understand that, like, I came to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: my mom and I took my dashboard from Twitch at
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: the time. I said, man, mom, I'm growing progressively here.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: And the remuneration too. I showed her everything, it's cute there.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: I think if I invest more time here... maybe I'll
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: be able to consolidate myself faster and reach a better
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: level that will sustain me throughout my life.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: It must be very difficult to convince a mother to
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: It was very difficult, bro. My mother, for a long time,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: she asked me to follow the traditional path too, for
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: fear that this wouldn't work, I lost what was guaranteed there,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: you know? So for a long time I was on
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: both sides, considering. So, like, I worked there 10, 12
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: hours a day, but 6 hours of live, I slept
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: 6 hours and my day was complete just of work, of, bro,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: it's live, it's live, it's live. I became a zombie,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: you know? But then came the pandemic. And the pandemic,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: between N bad things that happened to us, people that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: we lost and things that happened to society, it inevitably
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: gave a boom on the internet, a digital boom. So,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: many people who work with the internet had a bad
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: audience because there was nothing to consume, you know? So,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: the number of people who watched the live shows increased
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: We are one that can't talk.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: The pandemic was crazy.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: The pandemic was crazy.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Any episode, bro, 40,000 heads, 50,000 people.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Five hours of podcast, because people wanted to see us live.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: That's it, because it was a company, right? So, live
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: shows have a lot to do with the company too.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: You have company for someone who is doing something, but
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: is alone at home, there is no one to talk to.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: And you look at the chat, you answer, you talk,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: so the person feels like your friend.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: And the live is different, because normally you're in a
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: very comfortable way.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: You're at your house, so kind of.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: If you pay attention, there are several moments that I'm
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: watching you there, I say, man, I'm in the same
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: position as him here, so it looks like we're in
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: the same environment, talking about the same thing, you know?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: It's much more friendly. My live is not a format,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: you know? You talk, you interact, you eat, watching something,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: like the guy who's eating is watching you, you know?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Then you arrive now, you talk in a way that's... Exactly.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: So it was that, it was a lot about company.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: So in the pandemic, the lives were very right, like,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people came to watch, and our job
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: was kind of trying to retain these people, you know? Like, man,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of new people are arriving, we know that,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: damn it, at a specific moment, but hopefully these people
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: managed to be there and keep watching us for a
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: longer time. And then it worked very well during the pandemic,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: and the numbers increased a lot, and then the work
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: in sports became digital, it became home, home office, you know?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: And then I started to advise the home office with
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: the lives, but the lives were so right at the time,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: that I started to say like this, man, I think
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I want to live from it, you know? I think
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: it's the moment that I can dedicate myself here, dedicate
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: myself here, dedicate myself fully here and try to make
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: this game turn. Because I was in a very important
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: turning point, like this, man, consolidation of public and change
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: of content. I was leaving to do only FIFA to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: do other things, you know? So that's when I talked
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: to Cazé, for example, with Otávio, with a guy from
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Esporte Interativo, and I said, man, I'm going to abandon
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: the boat, I'm going to do this live. And they said,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: but are you sure? I said, man, I am, man,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: And your parents?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: So, my mom, at first, she didn't want to, but
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: after I had a conversation, like, gigantic with them, like,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: showing everything that was happening, and the numbers were all happening,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: she said, man, And that's it, I talked to my boss,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: he was very receptive at the time, because I had
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: already been employed.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: For us to have a sense of size, just to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: have an idea of this movement, how many followers did
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: you have?
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: How was that?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Man, so, followers, I think, let's say, on Twitch there
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: should be about 200 thousand followers. I'm just guessing here, okay? 150,000 followers.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: But it's an average of about 4,000 people watching me.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: 3,000 people.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: It's good as hell. 3,000 people watching me. It's good
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: as hell.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: Like, FIFA era, and stuff, there were some games and stuff,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: and 3,000 people watching me. So I said, I think
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: we can turn the game around here.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Because, like, in our reference, if it went from 1,000,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: it's already cool. At the time, on Twitch. If it
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: went from 2,000, man, it's cool. 4,000 is already cool
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: as hell. 3,000 is already a success, you know?
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: It's a success.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: This is the success of the time. Like, I said, man.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's cool, man, let's try to turn it
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: around here. So I had an average of about 3,000 people,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put my face here, you know? And
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: then I started to do only live, man. Then I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: pulled this bond of doing only live, live, live, working
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: only with live. And things happened over time, like, I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: stopped doing only FIFA, I started to do a lot
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: of react too, I started to talk a lot about football,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: show me how to post how Vasco is falling, what
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: you said too, already this Vasco game, the Vasco game
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: and such. I started to make my dream of being
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: a commentator live, speaking my way to my audience, you know?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: In your company. Exactly. I stopped being on a TV,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: because my dad always dreamed of seeing me on TV.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: My dad says to me, until today, man, you have
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: to be on TV Globo. I say, dad, it's not
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: like that that things work. It's going to happen one day.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Eric Farias is just one, there are no two Eric Farias,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: you know? It's too difficult. And then I say, but
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I think I realized myself in my way with my audience.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I was building this with my audience and starting to
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: be the commentator that I always dreamed of for my people,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: you know? Looking back, we talked about your life.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Do you think that if you had.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Become a soccer player, you would have enjoyed the same
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: pleasures that.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: You enjoy today? Man, I think the answer is difficult,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: you know? Because I think that... We are in the
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: fact of imagination. Yeah, no, because soccer is a thing
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: that we love, I love it a lot, so I
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: think that I look at soccer players today and say, man,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: entering the stadium, everyone cheering for you, that's really cool,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: you know? Like, the stadium is full. Yeah, but you
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: could be the reserve of a team in the Serie C. Yeah, exactly. Like,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it's very difficult, man. So, I think I look at
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: it today and say, like, man, I think I can
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: make it happen. I'm in this vibe, like, like, man,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: I tried, it didn't work out. I tried something completely different,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: it didn't work and I did it in a way
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: that I never dreamed of. I never dreamed of streaming,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I never had contact with this world earlier. Streaming, YouTube
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: and such, it was very raw, you know? I didn't
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: watch YouTube when I was a boy, I didn't watch anything.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: YouTube that I watched was like a stand-up comedy, you know?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Improvised scenes, I watched that when I was younger, stand-up.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: So I stayed in that.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: But for those who.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Have never watched your live, how does your live work?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: What time is your live? What's going on there?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Cara, então o horário é uma pica, né? Porque eu
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: sou meio descompromissado com o horário. Mas geralmente de noite.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: E cara, hoje.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: When it gets dark, guys.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: So, usually, man, I try today to follow football, because
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm with Aguilera, for fuck's sake. Sport events now, like UFC,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I've been following them in general. Vasco played, you'll be there.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: I'm live, following. Like, I'm kind of a company. And
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: not only Vasco, right? Yeah, I watch everything. Like, to
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: watch football. So, I keep watching football, because Aguilera is
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: watching football.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: On the live, it ends the round, we see the goals,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: then we start to see the videos, some different games
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: and stuff.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: Like, today.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: There's a thing on your live that, like, the guys
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: like the most... Streaming has phases, right?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: There's a game that plays more, there's something that people
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: always ask you.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: To do on your live. I think there were some
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: key turns in my live life that were very important,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: and one of them was an event that we did
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: every Friday, it was the GTA de Sexta, right? GTA
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: de Sexta. We gathered several creators of Contour who did
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: live at the time, on Twitch or other places, And man,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: every Friday, 16 people doing a GTA race play, you know?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Several different things, and stuff like that. And man, this
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: thing started to take a very different proportion from the public. Because,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: let's go, we started with that, there were 2,500 people watching.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: And then after three months, there were 5,000 people watching.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Then after a year, everyone, every Friday, followed for 10,000 people.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: 11,000 people, 12,000 people.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: So, like, man, the thing turned into a fever of
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: people who watched me. We enjoyed GTA de Sexta a lot,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: for a long time. a lot of bullshits, cursing, because
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: I hit in the race, I don't know what, I
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: don't know what. So it was cool as fuck and
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I think it became a lot of keys for me
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: because it introduced me to a lot of different people. So, like,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: my job today, I think for all streamers in general,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: is to find content that will turn you into a key,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: that will put you in the spotlight for people who
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: don't know you to know you.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: But what do you like to do most in your store?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: Ah, man, I think that nowadays, as I'm tired of
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: playing FIFA a lot, I like to watch things, bro. Like,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: I think watching things or playing games in cooperation with
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: other people, I think it's funny, I think it's cool.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: Tipo assim, eu me divirto muito. Tipo assim, eu faço
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: alguns conteúdos porque eu acho que tem que fazer, que
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: dão certo no YouTube e tal. Alguns jets que talvez, porra,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing it, but I see why it works.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: It's the subject of the moment. Yeah, the subject of
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: the moment. We can never leave out what's going on
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: at the moment.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: I was even surprised recently, for example, a Clash Royale, bro.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I've never played it in my life. I went to
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: play it, 10,000 people watching me. I said, what the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: fuck is this, man? But it's a Clash Royale fever.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: A fever, man. You became a Clash Royale boy.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: Then I started playing five days in a row of
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: Clash Royale, addicted to it.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: And is it really good, the thing? Everyone says it's good.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: It's cool, man.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: It's cool, it's cool.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: So, you were talking to Coringa yesterday at his house.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: He's a fantastic guy, a phenomenon.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: He is. And he was saying.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: He's a good guy, a good guy, right, bro?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a good guy. He's from Minas Gerais. Yeah, Minas Gerais.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Victor, it's us, my brother.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: I miss you.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Minas Gerais, Minas Gerais. And he was talking about this, exactly.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: That he spends the days that he's off or that
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: he's producing content in off thinking about the things that
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: will become the key for him. They will show him
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: to more people who don't know Victor, the Coringa. Look how, damn,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: he's known to hell. And I think our job is this. Like, bro,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: for example, there was a moment in my trajectory that
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: we made a content that was kind of Brazilian musical.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: We gathered 1,600 Brazilian songs and spent days choosing the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: best one. And it started to go viral on YouTube.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: It went viral on TikTok. It won the white flag.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Luiz Gonzaga. I don't want to go against the white flag.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: The white flag is like super trunfo, right?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: There's even one that you like a little more, sentimental value,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: but you can't do anything about it. There was a
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: funny moment. Latin party in the AP against a Mayan team.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: You had to vote which song was the best.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: For me, the 60 songs we did during a few weeks,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of different people watching me, because
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: it was content that was on YouTube and TikTok. You
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: have to know how much I watch you. It's turning
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: into a key, you know?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: I was watching another day, 50 songs of the year,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know what.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: And I was watching Maradão. So, like, they're content that
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: will show you to other people, like Kings League, which
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: turned into a key for me, too, in some way. Brother,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: let's talk about it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: Will we see Alan Estagiário hitting a penalty on Kings
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: League again?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: I hope so, you know? How is it? That's it.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm in a moment that... There were processes in the
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Champions League. There was the first one in Mexico with FURIA,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: which we were there, which I think was a really
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: cool job. It was really awesome. It was FURIA, G3X, Gaules,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: me and Falcão at the time. So it was really cool,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: really nice. Then came the opportunity of Real Elite, which
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: also didn't work for any reason. Unfortunately, they didn't happen
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: the way we wanted them to. So I preferred to
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: stay off the split. I had conversations with other teams.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Did they look for you? They did, to be present
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: in the split. But I looked at what was happening
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: and the way things were happening. I talked a lot
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: with Elane and the people who are in my closest circle.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: I said, I think it's better now. I wanted to
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: stay away from it, because I've been living a very
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: intense life lately. And I wanted to be sure that
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: maybe in the near future I'll be able to do
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: something with my face. Because it was my dream, man.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: I have a community that today, thank God, is very big.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: I want people to watch me, to follow me, to
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: want to support Alan's team. And I looked at it
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: and said, man, let's wait a little bit, let's see
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: how my audience's response is going to be. They were
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: very hurt by what happened at Real Elite, to see
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: how they're going to react. to watch the Kings League now,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: how the reception will be with them, how the Kings
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: League itself will be this semester. Even to lower the
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: dust a little bit.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Like, man, I was doing a live on Paint, watching
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: the Kings League without a broadcast, it hit 20,000 people,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: I said, man, what the fuck, people watching me without
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: a broadcast, man. That was funny.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: That was iconic, man. That was funny, man.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Then I said, man, there is a very faithful audience
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: here that values ​ ​ a lot. And I didn't want
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: to get up and hug the first thing that appeared
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: to me and say, bro, that's what we're going to
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: have ahead. I kind of wanted to wait, lower the dust, think,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: organize nicely, in case I go back to those who
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: turn off the moment, go back in the way I
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: think my audience deserves, you know? Like, watch something with
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Alan's face, that everything will be fine, we'll be able
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: to follow and say, bro.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Winning or losing, everyone will be.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Happy, you know?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: To be honest, the World Cup you went to with FURIA,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: the dressing room was you, Gal, you, Gal.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Leis and Cris. This was with the Brazilian team. Brazilian team,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it was FURIA. That's why you three were there.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. It was crazy, right, bro? It was crazy. Crazy,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: really crazy. I even watched Gal Leis. My brother, we
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: like you a lot, please, you've already been here. For
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: God's sake. For God's sake, man.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: Between us, it's all good, Gal, you, Kelvin, I'm a
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: huge fan. And sometimes when there's a FURIA and G3X,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: I'll give a shit here.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: But, man, really, my brother, we like you a lot.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: For God's sake, these things of bullshit there, on our
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: side there's nothing.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Please, if you have anything, if you're doubting, call me. Say, hey, Gal,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a bastard. We exchange ideas.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: It's us, my brother, I like you a lot. Another thing,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: it was very cool, that's it. Very, very, very, very cool.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: I met Kings League there.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: And right after that, you're in Real Elite. I wanted
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: to know a little bit about what happened. about the things,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: if you could talk, obviously.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. But it was really cool, no joke, man, to
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: watch the.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: Kings League for you, because you, at least I saw
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: that you were very dedicated to the penalty, and there
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: in the Real Elite, living that drama of, my God,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: it's going to fall, it's not going to fall, right?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: It's not going to qualify.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: It's not going to qualify, etc. It was a drama,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: it was a drama. And, man, all your games seemed
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: like the game of your life, so.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: It was a drama.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Really, I watched a lot of FURIA, especially in the
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: first split, and even if I'm here watching a little
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: further away, sending a big hug to the guys, you're
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: going to be champions again, if God wills it.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: I stopped to watch the Real Elite a lot, like,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: because of you, I like you, you know?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: If you could say, bro, what happened, I.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: Would really like to see you in the Kings League,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, bro, it's because the Kings League, for me, like, man,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: I always treated it as content that could get me
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: to a place that I wouldn't reach, I wouldn't reach alone, like, like, man...
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: I think that when you create content on Steam, you
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: have some ceilings that you have to break. And Kings
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: League introduced me, put me in front, hugged people in
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: the middle, which has a very big size, and I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: think I managed to deal with these people and introduce
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: myself to their audience in some cool way. And with
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: content that is my face, which is football, you know? So, like,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: you always go to football and having a team in
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Kings League is a... It's crazy, right? You play as
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: a driver there. In practice, it's fucking awesome. So, kind of,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: I was at home with football and I wanted to
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: make this thing turn, like, in my way. How was
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: this experience of you there.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: at least in that first split, and dealing with it,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: knowing how to get involved with the team, suffering, you know? Because, okay,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: you're Vascaíno, but I'm not saying it's better or worse,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: but I think it's a different feeling.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Man, it's very different, man. There was a day that
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I turned to the girl, man, after what happened in
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: the Champions League, I think it was a very impactful
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: defeat of ours, that I said, man, I'm sadder with
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: what happened now than I'm sad about Vasco's game. Because
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Vasco. But it's a perception
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: from the outside. You're a fan. You're not in the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: club knowing what's going on in your day-to-day life. You
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: don't know the frustrations of anyone. You're a fan. And
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: on the inside, you knew exactly what was going on,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: how people would react to that, and the frustration of
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: each one participating in this process. So, man, it hurts
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: you a lot, because you're with the guys every day,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: from the moment of hiring, bringing them to the team,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: until the moment of entering the field. So, when everything
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't go the way you plan, it's frustrating as hell.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: And it gave you to realize that you were very involved. Very, man.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: Because, like, when we unite, me and Ludmilla, in the process,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: the opportunity was Akari, right? From FURIA. Because Ludmilla was
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: invited to the Kings League. At the time of the invitations,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: I was still in FURIA. So, I think this invitation
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even reach me, to have a team in the
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Kings League. And I think it makes sense too, because
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: there were several invited personalities. It's all right, you know? So,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: when I left FURIA, when FURIA came with Cris Guedes
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: and Neymar, Akari presented me the opportunity to be with
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Ludmilla in the Real Elite. Because Ludmilla had no one
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: to stream with her. And she couldn't be present alone
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: in the Real Elite. And it made sense to have
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: a guy involved with sports, with soccer, who could play
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: the project for her. So we kind of made this
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: union and it was great. We were introduced, I went
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: to Ludmila's house, we exchanged ideas, her boss and such.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Everything was fine, you know? So kind of the response of,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: at the first moment, setting up the ecosystem of Real Elite,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: stayed with me. So when I arrived, there was already
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: a person connected to be CEO, one to be manager
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: and nothing else in the company. There was no team.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: There was only a CEO, a manager and me, arriving
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: together with Ludmila. So we started to understand, let's hire
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: the players, let's hire the technical commission, and make things happen.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Since the moment I left FURIA, that I know this
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: will exist, I've been trying to hire the best player possible.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Then the guys already got it right with G3X and FURIA,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: bringing this and that, and making things happen within the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: Real Elite. So you get involved a lot in that moment.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: How will it be proposed to the player, salary, how
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: much time, etc. If it will come, if it won't come,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: the conversation, the league.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: Several player problems, you start to say, my God, this
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: problem is mine now.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: It's all mine, it's all mine. So, like, in all meetings,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: I call, I'll sit with the guys to talk, I'll
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: convince them to play with us, because, man, it's fucked,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I'm competing against Coringa calling the guy, against, damn, João
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Vlod calling the guy, Alan calling the guy, I want
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: to convince the guy to play with me, you know? So, like,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: it's hard, this moment, and I was understanding more or
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: less how things worked. So I managed to bring some
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: very good guys to play with us, we set up
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: the team and things didn't work out. Unfortunately, I didn't
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: have any problems with Ludmilla, zero problems with her. She
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: has always had a very good relationship with me, her
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: employer Renato. Good people to do everything right. I had
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: problems with other people in Real Elite that happened and
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: that we couldn't deal with it in a professional and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: positive way. And then I preferred to pull the bond, leave.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell them to follow me, everything is fine, I'll
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: follow another path and that's it.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: But I think you have to be at the point
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: where both you and your community contribute a lot.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: I think so too. During part of this process, I
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: understood that I think you are doing it the wrong way.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: Because at some point I tried to save Real Elite
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: from what happened. But at other times, it was their choice.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: And when I felt that Alan wasn't welcome anymore, I
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: just took my team off the field. I said, man,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to follow until the end here,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: do a job that I have to do, which was
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: to follow in the split of the Champions League until
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: the end, being present until the last game, and it
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: was worth it. But then the league itself already knew
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: when I would continue, they already knew. I said, man,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: if it's to be this way here, and I already
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: know that you don't want me to be here, I'm out.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: Was it very difficult for you, bro? Like, it was
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: a phase, like... How was that moment for you?
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Man, I think it was the most difficult of the
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: last year for me.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Because... You gave blood there.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: You were at the beginning. I put the thing on foot, man.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: Like, honestly, any person who says that this didn't happen,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: the other person is lying.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I put the team on foot. All the people were there, man,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: they were there without knowing how to make it happen.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: So, like, it was... Who are we going to hire? Man,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: the people... I was the only one who followed the game.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: So I was the only one who could say, let's
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: call Davi, who is a genius, a phenomenal guy. Let's
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: call him. No one would know Davi if I didn't
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: tell them to call him. So when you set up
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: the whole ecosystem there and you see the boat sink,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: it's very frustrating, you know? And then, it's fucking awesome because...
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Even Yuri's thing that happened on the 5th of July,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: when he came in with a unique card, they took
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: everything I built from scratch. I thought it was a joke.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Yuri's joke. I thought it was
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: a joke. I thought it was Yuri's joke. No, they
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: didn't take it. It's Desimpedidos Goti, right? Yeah, my feeling
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: was this, man. They took Alan from a disposable way
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: that wasn't previously agreed on the project he built from scratch.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, if there's any good side to this, Do you
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: think it's the hug that your community gave you?
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: I think it was a positive point, bro. Because, like,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I even talked to the guys after that, like, the
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: guys asked, like, bro, Alan, you're not going to say
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: anything about what happened, you're not going to expose who
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: was the son of a bitch with you, and so on,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: and so on. I said, bro, no, man. Like, like, bro,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: I talked to Elane for fuck's sake, with the people
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: who are on my side, and I said, like, man,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: It's not about Alan shooting everywhere he goes. Because it's
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: going to look like Alan is the problem, you know? Because,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: for example, if I leave FURIA, there's no problem with FURIA.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Zero problems with FURIA, zero. And the guys think there's
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: a problem with FURIA with Alan. And there isn't, bro.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: There isn't, like, zero. Akari is my brother, bro. I
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: love him with all my heart. We have a great
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: relationship to this day.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Like, it was a decision on both sides not to
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: be together anymore. Man, there's a bunch of people who
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: think that... I'm glad you said that.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of people who.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: Look and say,'' It' s the fault of Podpac that the
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: intern left!
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: No!
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, right? Because Furia had to have
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: a transfer.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: From Kings League and you made the merger and Madhouse,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: an asset of Madhouse and Kings League. So it was
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: a solution that Furia found because there was no more
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: streaming to do the transfers from Furia to Kings League.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: So I think....
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: You got married well, right?
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: And since we work doing a lot of broadcasts... Do
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: you want to have a team in... It's too expensive,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: haven't you seen Piquet talking about it here?
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: 2 thousand euros, I think.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: Did you see John suffering not paying lunch for the guys?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: It's awesome, bro. It's a lot of shit, bro.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: Ernie Smith is going to get you, John Floss!
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of shit, bro.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: But there's no problem, then. There's no problem. There's no
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: problem with the FURIA at all. So we left, it
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: was the FURIA's option, the secret that was, and it
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: was the Alon's option, the secret that he followed. So, like,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: we sat down, got together, and said, like, is this
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: how you want to follow? All right, I want to
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: follow another way, all right, let's go. Ah, Alon.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: Fariweli?
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Ah, cara, os molecada Loud é muito maneiro, né, mano?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Não chegou na aposta da Loud, tá? Não chegou, tipo assim,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: eu sou muito próximo. Só fiz uma pergunta, mano. É
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: porque aí era falar assim, pô, vem pra Loud, vem
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: pra Loud, vem pra Loud, mas, pô, a molecada é
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: muito gente boa, mano. Eu sou amigo do Renato há
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: muito tempo, né, e do Cunico eu fiquei mais próximo recentemente,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: a comunidade Loud é muito foda, me abraçou muito, no
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: momento que eu não esperava.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: O Cayox, o Cayox.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: O Cayox é gênio, o Brabox é gênio. Gênio.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: A comunidade é muito foda, né, mano?
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: E é muito foda, porque, tipo assim, a Loud é
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: uma organização gigantesca, né, mano? Com uma comunidade imensa. E, mano,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: eu sinto que em vários momentos, cara, é muito difícil
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: as pessoas gostarem de você... Out of nowhere, you know? Like,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: for example... Especially in a place that's already closed. Yeah, like,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not part of Laude. But I want Laude to
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: like me. I was talking to Coringa today, like, bro,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: it's really cool. He told me that the girl who
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: watches us likes you. So much so that he invites
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: me to go to his booth right away, you know? Like,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: go to our booth, go participate and stuff.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: You're a good person, bro.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: It's something that makes me happy, bro. Because, contrary to
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: what people can imagine, Alan is not on the internet
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: to fight with the others, bro. I don't want to
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: make enemies on the internet because I think it's against
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: my work. The more enemies you have, the less doors
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: you have. The less doors you have. So, like, it's
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: cool that I'm well received in the environments that I arrive. So, like,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: that's why when I say, bro, you're going to get
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: out of the reality, you're going to expose everyone, or
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: the person who, bro, fucked you there.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: No, bro.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: If people want to draw a conclusion, they will draw it. Ah,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: I think Alan was a son of a bitch. It's
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: all right, bro. I'm telling you that I think it's
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: not like that. But I'm not going to enter the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: merit of exposing the person, saying this, this, this, this.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: I just said it wasn't Ludmila, because then, damn, a
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: person far from my height, from the world I live in,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: and damn, it embraces me in a very cool way.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: You're a guy known for bullshit.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want that. So, like, bro, I kept myself away,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it, and I won't talk about
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: it anymore. I said, I think, the minimum here, the
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: basic with you, because, bro, I think if you asked,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to talk a little bit, give
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: this answer to the people who follow me. But I preferred.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: I left, and now I'm going to wait for things
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: to get better.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: But you didn't discard Kings League from your life. No,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't discard it. The guys from Kings League send
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: me a direct message, they want me to be present
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: in some way, and we talk a lot.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: And you're watching a lot of Kings League now?
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: I'm watching it live. I don't always watch it live,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: but I'm always watching it off-live, so I'm following it.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Who do you think you're going to take? It's very difficult, man, because... No, no,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: it's because now there are four teams that I think
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: all four have total conditions to win, man.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: Because, like... No, the four, right?
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: No, look, let's go.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: The two teams that surprised me the most lately were
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: Funk Boy and Loud.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Because.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: Two teams with work in the first split, which was
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: akin to what should happen. And, man, Funkball completely changed
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: the team. Funkball is the best team in the championship. Man,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: there's a social network, a way to... The transition. The
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: transition is cool.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: The guys' cabins are awesome. So they managed to build
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: their identity now with a very good team. With the
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: right people. So it's very cool. They're going to face
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: G3X now. It's going to be a great game because
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: they beat Kelvin and company, who won the game yesterday
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: in a spectacular way. The final is going to be
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Funkball and FURIA. Man, Kelvin is a phenomenon, man. No, man, really.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: That response he called yesterday.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: Man, the... He's nice to hug.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Man, Igão, back in France when we went... Was it France?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Was it France that went to the World Cup? When
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: we went to the World Cup in Italy, I was
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: very close to Kelvin, as I never was before, because
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: he had a 3x. So I went to the coaches
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: to complete the training. There are only 13 called. And
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: in a 7 vs 7, there is one left to train.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: So I went to the coaches every morning to train
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: with them in the national team. In a cold of
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: minus 1, minus 2, I was going to train like crazy.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: But what a delight too, right? No, but not a delight.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Minus 1 is horrible, man. Any fall, any contact hurts everything.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Ball, kick.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I know, but imagine you have to be there already. No,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: it's cool.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Isn't it cool? It's cool.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: And then, like, man, I went to train with the guys, man,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Kelvin is different, man. It's impressive. Do you think he
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: would play professional football, field, quietly? Man, so, we had
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: this discussion live once, the guys, like, sometimes when I
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: say this, I say, like, man, you're kidding me and stuff,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: but I think Kelvin, he could be tested, man. I'm
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: not going to tell you that he's going to be
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: the new Lewandowski.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: Obviously.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, they're two different worlds, you know? But
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's football, man. Like, imagine that Kelvin tried
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: football before being Kelvin, right? Like, when Kelvin tries at
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: the Grêmio, he's not the Kelvin Kelvin we know today
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: with all the attitude he has behind him and the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: name he has behind him. And in football, man, you
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: only have, sometimes, one or two opportunities, you know? And
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: if luck doesn't work out for you, the opportunity hit
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: and you left. So, like, it's different for Kelvin to
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: be tested with patience. Maybe he never would have had
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: the patience he deserved to have had to show off
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: his talent. So, sometimes, Kelvin in Grêmio didn't have the
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: time or the attention they could have given him if
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: they knew he had this potential. You know? So, I
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: think Kelvin, technically, he's the only guy that I look
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: at like this, In the Kings League, it was like that.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: It's that he's not going to leave the level he's
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: at and try again. Yeah, because today he's the guy
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: from the 7th and the Kings League. Maybe on the
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: field he's one more. A sponsor, doing a lot of publicity. Exactly.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: And maybe the one more is not interesting for him today.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: The one more on the field is not interesting for him.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: Because the most awesome would be Kelvin from the Kings League.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: And another, the Kings League... It's the second split. It's
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: not even a split, it's a cup, it's a shorter shot.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: And it's changing several lives, right?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Brother, what happened in the first split is scary. 45
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: thousand people at the Allianz Parque. Children and women in
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: the stadium. How long has it been since you've seen
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: a football stadium like that?
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: So many children.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: So happy. So imagine in five years, how will it be?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: Kelvin will be one of the.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: The skin of the show. The skin of the show. So, like...
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: You think he's going to drop?
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I see in Kelvin a guy like this, bro. But
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I'm furious until the end.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: Physically, he's the guy who has the three ways and
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: the power of a professional football player.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: You see Kelvin training? He doesn't make an effort to
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: hit the goal, put it in the corner and say,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: this is the goal of a professional football player. It's
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: not Amador's thing.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: You don't need to say. Are you supporting any team
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: in this split?
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: I'm supporting.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: I'm supporting.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: And if I ask if it's Laude... Yeah, I'm sitting
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: there too.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: It's because it's very crazy.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: It's okay, Staj, it's okay. I know you want to
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: dress green.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: But, man, the guys are really cool, man. What I said, like,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I was very happy with the way they hugged me, so, like,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: after what happened, so it was really cool. I hope
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: for them to be successful. Renato is very hard-working too.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: The guys are really cool. I'm a big fan of
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: the guys. G3X has, I love them a little bit, man.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: Apoka is a spectacular guy, man. He's a passion. Apoka
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: is the hero of the team, right? He's the hero
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: of the team. When I was with FURIA, I didn't
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: have a close relationship with them because they were rivals.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: It's normal, right? FURIA is a rival of G3X, so
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: there are some distant relationships in the backstage. So I
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: didn't know the old Vamp and Apoka as close as
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: they are. I knew Gaules a little more because we've
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: had some live appearances together. And I watch Gaules every
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: day for BCS. He's the biggest goalkeeper in the Kings League.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: And man, Apoka and Velho Vamp, when I got to
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: know them more closely, they are awesome people. Apoka, man,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: I love you so much. Whenever we talked, man, it
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: was like that... Do you know how friendship at first sight?
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: It was like that. So I support him a lot too.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: Then Funk Balma, I made several friends there, I also
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: support him a lot. This is like a guy on
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: top of the wall, right? But the four of them
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: reached me, I have a good relationship with the four.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: So I like the four, I hope I win better, right?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Now you were smooth.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: Smooth, did you like it? It was smooth. It was
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: a reporter. It was a reporter. It was a reporter.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: It was a reporter.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: It was a reporter. It was a reporter. It was
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: a reporter.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: It was a reporter.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: It was a reporter. It was a reporter. It was
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: a reporter.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: It was a reporter. It was a reporter. It was
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: a reporter. It was a reporter. It was a reporter.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: It was a reporter. It was a reporter. It was
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: a reporter. It was a reporter. It was a reporter.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: It's much better if it's a part, after all. Because
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: the guys are resting, they have a better show. Yes.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: But I can understand from the point of view of entertainment,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: of the show. Because they're going to make a more
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: complete show. Because if you go just to the final,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: it's just one game, one hour. So imagine that they're
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: going to put it in a stadium. It's that there
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: it won't be in the stadium, right? There it will
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: be in the arena. Yes. But if you're going to
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: put it in a football stadium, you're going to sell
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: a content of an hour, maybe it's not enough for
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: the public to embrace the idea of... Ah, we're talking about...
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: There are three games. It's a business, right? For the
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: final product, for the final business, it's more attractive. For
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: the sport, it's worse. Because then the guy is tired.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: The guy plays a semi-final of Gastão, he plays the
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: final right after. It's a peak. It's true.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: But I think for the public, they'll prefer that. They'll
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 4: kill everything in one day.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Alan, you're an ex-penalty hitter. This penalty here is from
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: who knows? Watch it, brother. What is this, Igão? No,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: that's true.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: But what scares you is losing a penalty that's not
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: worth anything.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: Forget it! I don't want to score any penalty.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: In the Kings League, it looks like I'm 3 meters tall.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: When you score a penalty, it's terrible. Because it sucks.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: You only missed one, right? No, I missed three, man.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: It's because I repeated one and missed again. There was
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: this one. I hit it, he went ahead, I hit
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: it again, I lost again.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: What's the feeling, even in the Kings League, especially in
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: the Kings League, to hit a penalty, man? What goes
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: through your head? When you're in the dressing room, you're
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: getting ready. Until you get there, on the scoreboard, what
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: goes through your head? Fuck, I have to score this
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: fucking goal.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: It's because the goal is very important for your team.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: What you think every morning is thinking about the success
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: of the girl who is on your team. If you lose,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: you will harm those girls who will achieve their dreams.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: And our goal is very important because it is a
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: goal for the guys.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: If you score the goal, you help the boys. If
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: you lose the goal, you disturb the boys. But it's
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: a very cool thing that the boys always tell us.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: In the national team it was this, in the FURIA
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: it was this, in the Real League it was this too. Man,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: look at this. He'll score the penalty. The responsibility of
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: the result is ours. If he loses, fuck it, bro.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: He'll score.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: Because whoever wins the game, it's us. So, this is
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: really cool. It takes a little bit of weight. But
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: at the same time, it's impossible not to carry that weight.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: It's 5x5. Your penalty is not going to be important.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Or sometimes your penalty is the draw. It's the draw.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: It's going to tie. So, it's hard, man.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: It's a fucking responsibility. And, man, at that time, it's complicated, bro.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: It's a little scary. Who says he doesn't get in
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: with a little fear?
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: It's a lie.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: He gets in with a little fear in his belly, yes.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: If we were a team with a penalty, you would
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: hit it.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: I would say, no, I won't. Go there, go there.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: I would shit myself for you shitting yourself.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: If you were to elect the best presidents that I've
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: seen hit penalties here, you.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Gaule está batendo bem. O Cris também. O Gaule está 100%, bicho.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: O Gaule está 100% na antepenúltima. 100% nesse futebolista. Impressionante.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: But how many goals did he score?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: He scored 5, I think. 5 or 4?
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Holy shit, Gaules. He trained hard.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: Paulinho is crazy, he's not getting any goals too.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: He got the one from the final, man.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: He's full of fantasy. The guy is unbelievable. This scene
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: was awesome. Bro, nice to be there.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: I was feeling bad, cheering for Flória.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't believe it, bro. Wonderful. I said, it's not
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: possible that he's going to get it right.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 3: It's not possible, bro, because he's not going to take
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: the goal from the gamer.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: He's not going to take the goal from the gamer.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: The goal from the gamer, bro. because he kicks the ball.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: He hits the ball. He hits the ball, the ball
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: goes in, it goes through the video. I said, my God,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: but how sensational. This is the beautiful thing about Kings League, man.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: I keep imagining watching the goalkeepers, man. Because the goalkeeper
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: is going to get a penalty from a guy who
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't even know where to hit. And it's hard for
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: him to act. Luqueta, for example. It's easier to get
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: yours than Luqueta's. Man, Luqueta, he was hitting the penalty,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: he was doing all the goals, because no one knew
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: where the ball was going. He hit the goal and
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: it was worth it. He hit it all, man. Luqueta
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: is very cool, by the way. Toguro is cool. Toguro
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: is cool. He put the ball in the back of
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: the net in the last one and went out with
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: his father there. Valorize your parents. I have a father.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Toguro is my family. He's crazy. Toguro is really crazy, right, man?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: You can't understand. We train in the same academy. Sometimes
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: he comes to me and says....
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: Calm down.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 3: He said, I'm a guru, bro, seriously. I said, but
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: you were asking for it at Casé. He said, no,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: but there is only Copa. Then he stays like this. Man,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: he is a wonderful character.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to tell you, it's cool the stuff
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: he does.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: He takes his son. I like it, man. I like it.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: There will be signs. There will be signs. There will
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: be signs.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: Alan Estagiari, scale the worst Vasco you've ever seen in
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 4: your life.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: Every year there are ten. No, the worst goalkeeper.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: The worst goalkeeper is Diogo Silva. He made Vasco fall.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: That's too Vasco. A horrible double of Zaga.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: A bad double of Zaga. Damn. Dude, I think Vasco's
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: double of Zaga must have at least 10 that are impractical.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: Impractical. It's like to stop. Impractical is very good.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: There are from a little older times to the current ones.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put the ones that most annoyed me.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. I think Vasco, he remembers the player.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: If you asked, I also know. Maybe not the worst ones,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: but the ones that made me angry the most were
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: Werley and Renato Silva. Sideways, right and left. Dude, on
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: the left, Márcio Careca. Not the worst, but more of
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: a myth. And he played well on the bridge, right?
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: And on the right... No, not on Márcio Careca.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: He played on Barueri.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: Palmeiras too, I think. I don't know.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: But.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: I'm crazy. Anyway, it's because Vasco fucked up a lot
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: because of Márcio Guerra with time. Vasco was with a
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: good team, but he had him. That was a problem. But, man,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: on the right, there's so many people, man. There's so
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: many people, man, that I'm going to forget. But there
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: was a boy, man. What's his name, man? Ah, man.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put here.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: The right side....
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: Ney.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: But it's not the worst, no. But it's because I
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: forgot the name of the worst. Volantes e meio campistas.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: Ney got in there, poor thing.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Ney wasn't even supposed to.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: Get in, man. It's because there's a very emblematic thing
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: about Ney, the Vasco game, that Ney misses so much,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: misses so much during the game, that the fans start
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: to support Ney's mistakes. They start like this, he misses, misses, misses,
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: and then he starts, Puta que... It's the best team
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: in Brazil, Ney! He spoke in an ironic way. Just
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: like Fabricio. Fabricio was like this. Remember? Fabricio was playing bad.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: He scored a goal. Fabricio was like this.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: And it was awesome too.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: This humor is the carioca. This humor.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: Imagine the guys saying, don't curse.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: Don't curse this guy. Because it's no use.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: We love you.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: This is worse than being cursed. Having the car kicked.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: Kick my car, please.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: Kick my car, but don't be ironic with me. Don't
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: be ironic with me.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: Man, there's a lot of people who play for the Volante.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: Aslan is a good player. Aslan is a good player,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: but he was horrible. He was worse than Erli. He
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: dated Nakamura. I'll give you an idea. Scale the best
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: Vasco you've ever seen.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: The best Vasco is cool. It's going to be harder, right?
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: No, that's fucked up.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: I just followed the joke.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go. The best Vasco I've ever seen. Fernando Paes?
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: So, man.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: It's because I didn't see Elton big yet.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: Like, I was a kid, okay? I was going to
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: put Elton. But, man, it could be Fernando Praes. I
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: say the one who sees to remember.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: It's because Fábio was also great at Vasco. I got
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: the Fábio era still. Fábio was better than Fernando Praes.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put Fábio. So, Fábio. Right side.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: Paulo Henrique. Oh, crazy. Not Fagner? It could be Fagner.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: It's true. It could be Fagner. Fagner did a great job.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: No, thank you.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: He helped me. I'm trying to help.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: It's because Paulo Henrique is in the national team. I'm
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: in love with him.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: But it's Fagner. But Paulo Henrique is a monster.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: Double de Zaga. Dedé.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: Eterno.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: It's the name of my dog. Forget it. I love
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: Dedé de Paixão. Dude, I met Dedé in São Januário. Dedé,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: he was sure that I loved him more than his wife.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: He said that to me. Dude, you like me more
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: than my wife. I said, I'm sure of that. I'm sure.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Marry me. He didn't want to.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: Chimamaria.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: But, dude, I'm going to put Dedé.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: And I'll put Anderson Martins, that was Vasco's double. Left back.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: Left back... Man... It's hard, man. I think the best
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: thing that happened... It's because Felipe wasn't left back. It
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: was when he was 98.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: He was a forward.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: It was when I got Felipe, he was 6. So
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: I'll put Ramon. I could put Pitão, but I'll put Ramon.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: But Ramon is a good forward. Good left back.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good left back.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Then he went to Corinthians. Yeah, I'll put Ramon. Forward.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put... You have a good midfield to
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: do that. I'm going to put Romulo, because for Vasco,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: the selection was very important. I'm going to put Juninho
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: and Felipe in midfield. That's it. Three only, so three strikers.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: I can put Juninho and Felipe, I can open Felipe Coutinho,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: you know? Striker, it's going to be Romário. I got
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: Romário and Vasco, and the other will have to be...
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: I got Edmundo too.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: Wonderful.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: It's going to have to be Edmundo. I really liked
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: Carlos Alberto too, Charles Albert. The best review.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: Wow, also.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: In Corinthians? This team is for the showcase. But... There
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: are several guys. Diego Souza had to be in this
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: team too, because he was very good, you know? I
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: love Diego Souza. Do you have any resentment? Man, I
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: don't have, man. That's good. I like him a lot,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: despite that mistake. It's because he made a very important mistake,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: but I think he's great.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: Great player.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: Great player. If you were to set up a Kings
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: League team, Today? Today.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: Exaú.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: Exaú? Exaú. There's no way. Exaú Dallaud, right? Exaú Dallaud
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: is the highlight of Kings League today. He scores goals.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Breaking.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: Very awesome. Man, I would put... There are six, right? Yeah,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: there are six. I'm going to put Central in the
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: defensive part. Ailton from Funkball. I think he's awesome too.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: Then I'm going to have to put... I'm going to
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: have to put one more with him. I think I'm
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: going to put the whole offensive team, which is better, right, man?
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: You think?
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: Fuck, I'm fucked.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of good people. I... He from
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: funkball and Dedo. Just to be sure. Dedo is great.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: Dedo is very good. Dedo is very good. It could
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: be him. For sure. No, but it's your list. No, no, no.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: It's because Dedo is one of my favorites. It's because
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: I think that in this split, man, even though he
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: has had a bad collective performance, I think that El, individually,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: was better than Dedo.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: From Real Elite, you know? Thank you.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: But El played really well and the team didn't help him.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: But the team didn't help him. But it could be both.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: There's a boy in the lounge too. I think his
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: name is Luiz Fernando. He's playing a lot of ball too.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: Which is very good. And the other four? Man, there
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: has to be Lelete. There has to be Luan Mestre
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: in this split. There has to be Kelvin. And, man,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: I think I would inevitably complete with Lipão. There's no
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: way he's not there. There's no way he's not there. Man,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult to set up the
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: Brazilian team, man. Very difficult. There's a lot of good people.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: Man, what was his name? I forgot his name. Artilheiro
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: from FUNKBALL in the first split.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: Douglinhas? Douglinhas. He's playing outside of Brazil. 19 goals per game.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: Did he do that?
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: A game? No, no.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: Like this. If a FUNKBALL game had 4 goals, 4
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: would be his. Very, very impressive. It's embarrassing to make
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: this selection, man.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: We'll see you in the Kings League again, right?
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: I hope so, man. I hope so.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: Come to the next championship.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: I can't guarantee that, but I want to. I wanted
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: to come back because it's a content that I love
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: to do. And my audience loves to watch it. So
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: I wanted to dedicate it again. Before we wrap up,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: let's play a quick game here.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: Just to.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: Move it. Mark an interview program. A dream.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: Damn. I think that.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: I have a son.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: It's a dream that I have.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: A team from Kings League. That's a funny laugh. The
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: guys want to put you... I'm going to say Laude.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: Best player in history. If Vasco was a Libertas champion,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: would you... I'd do anything to make that happen. Vasco's
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: game or a date with a woman? Vasco's game with
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: a woman. Great. He's good. He's good. Do you have
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: any secret talent that you hide? It was playing football, right?
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: I would put it in secret. Now it's not that
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: secret anymore.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: It's not that secret anymore. Now, besides that, I don't think.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: So, bro. Exa do Brasil or Mundial do Vasco? Mundial
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: do Vasco. Sorry, Brasil. Forgive me. But I think I'm
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: more Vasco than Brasil.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: It's serious.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: I think that any fan, in pure conscience, who chooses
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: the Seleção, he has to be questioned.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: No, it's because... It's because Brasil is very... It's not
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: that I don't like the Seleção. I love it. It's
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: very fucked up the Seleção ser campeão. I'm going to
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: root for Cacete no Quem to be champion. But, bro,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: Vasco is that thing that... I think you learn to
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: root for your team before you root for the Brazilian
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: national team. At least I think so. Me too. I
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: think the Brazilian national team is rooted after you start
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: your team. I only like the Brazilian national team because
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: I like the fucking Cone. And I'm going to tell you,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: when the national team has someone in your team, you
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: root for them even more. What is that? It's even
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: more awesome. In 2006, I rooted for Argentina. There was
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: Tevez and Mascherano.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: I was a kid and I said, I want Argentina
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: to win and Brazil to win first, but I want
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: to see Tevez score. But it's been a while since
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 3: Ninguém do Corizão was called, except Hugo Souza.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: He's going to get a penalty, man.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: He's going to get a penalty and he's going to
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 3: be a champion with a penalty. he's going to be
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 3: champion with a defended penalty from Hugo Sousa if God
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: wills it has a star, right? I know, dude, it's blurry, right, dude?
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 3: What modality without being football would you take a risk?
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about futsal, it's very, very similar, right?
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: Flávio Basquete, he's 74. Flávio Basquete. Pivô. Pivô. Imbaniama.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Armadorzinho, né?
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: No, pode ser. Você acompanha o time de NBA? I
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: like Lakers a lot, but I watch other teams because
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: of some of their players. Trey Young from Atonta Hawks,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: I think he's awesome. You went to watch the NBA, right?
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: Did you think it was awesome? What?
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: I watched a lot of your videos, man. It was
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: really cool, right?
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: He was like, what's up, man? The guys talk to you,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: because I talk to the books on the table, at most.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: And then I got there and started to mess around
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: with the guys.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: Don't, man.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 2: The players thought you were a player... Anyway, they treated
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: you very.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: They said, man, this guy is.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 4: And it's hard to have this connection with the players.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 4: The guys from 7 meters looking and saying, oh my gosh,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 4: come here. So we were in the middle of these
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 4: guys and we were going to talk to them. And
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 4: they were like, oh bro, I don't know what.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: And what are you changing the zap zap with these guys, bro?
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: It's really f * * * ing cool.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: The American knows how to make a show, right, bro?
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of numbers. Every game is really
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: f *.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: * * ing cool, right, bro? And we participated in
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: these games of the game interval.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: Man, we went there now with the channel, with Aciel
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: and Pig. Congratulations. We were at the Lakers game against
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: the Clippers. It was right after Don't's announcement. He was
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: on the court, but he didn't play. Man, the stadium,
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: the arena is amazing. It's something you can't believe. Did
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: you go to Cripto? I went to the... The Lakers. No,
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: the Clippers, man. The new one. Yeah, the new one.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: You enter the stadium, I was shocked. It's the current
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: technology that everyone has, but I didn't know. You don't have...
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: You buy the ticket, you validate your face scan on
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: your cell phone, you go with the app downloaded. You
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: just enter, there's no ticket, there's nothing. You just enter,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: the magazine is on you. The stadium has several cameras
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: that follow who's entering. So they know if there's an
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: entrance or not. So you just enter the stadium. There's
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: nothing to deliver anywhere. There's no beep, there's nothing. There's
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: no ticket, there's nothing. You just enter the stadium. Do
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: you want to buy anything? Your face buys. You register
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: with your credit card on the app. Ah, turn your
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: face here, the camera looks at you, you bought a shirt,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: you bought something to eat, to drink.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. This is crazy. I was shocked.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: It must be a totally normal thing, but I didn't
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: know it existed.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: It's not that normal, but there in the United States
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: you'll see that they make your life a lot easier
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: for you to spend a little more money.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you spend and you don't even see the
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: money coming out.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 3: Look at me, you don't need a card, you don't
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: need anything, you're already paying.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: No, it's just breathing.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Then comes the bill. I almost bought a t-shirt
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: and then I looked at the price and said, I won't.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: I won't.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: $ 400, man.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: It's $ 250, the NBA t-shirt. It's more than R $ 1, 000. Yeah,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: it's crazy, man.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: R $ 1, 000, I paid for it.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: Marcel Pão Duro said, I won't buy it. I said,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: I won't either. What's the next video of Coisa de Amigo? Man,
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: we're thinking, man, because we were going to do it live, right?
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: But then, since Pig had his daughter now and stuff,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: we have to take a break and do it per season.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: So we believe that we're going to save it for
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: next year, a cool trip. I'm going to do some
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: content for Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, which is closer,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: but it's not right yet. But it will happen. The
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: channel they.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: Have is like a dream.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: A dream of friends.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go there and work. Eat a burger. I watched
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: the last one from Fast Food. It was the last one?
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: It was from Fast Food. I'm following. Would you join
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: any reality show? Dude, I think... No, I would join.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: I would join, but... I would join because I think
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: it can change lives, bro. But I would join with
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: fear of... Being canceled. Yeah. Why would you go to
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: the BBB of life? Never! Never! But it's never! It's
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: the first party and I'm peeing in the pool. You
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: would go too, right, Mítico? Some son of a bitch
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: would tell me some dissatisfaction.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe before you got into this empire here,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: you would go.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: No, but that's what he said. Like, now you have
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: an empire, you can go here. I got in here,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: the thing is for real, man. Man, this here looks
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: like a city. It looks like a Disney park. Now,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: before that, I think you would go, maybe, right?
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would. I would.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: Mítico, imagine a fucking old man sending you to hell.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: I would break the old man. He would say, you
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: ate my egg.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: I would laugh. You ate my beans. No, but I'm
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: going to ask you a question. Do you guys really
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: believe when someone says like this? No, come here to
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: be myself. It's a fucking lie. It's a lie. Everyone
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: is a character.
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 4: You look at the camera there, for sure you will perform.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: I get pissed with this. Like, come here. Globo puts
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: it there at the beginning. Like this. You can try
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: the characteristic, right? There's a video of each one. No,
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: come here to Brazil to get to know you better. Fuck,
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: you can't. Get to know what, man? You'll know who
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: you want to know, because in your day-to-day life you
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: must be uninteresting, like everyone else is. In my day-to-day
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: life I'm horrible. You're a great radio show.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 4: Participant, you'd already be talking about it in the gym.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 4: In my day-to-day life I'm very uninteresting, I keep playing
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: Clash Royale, then I watch a game, play LoL and
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 4: I'll open a live stream.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 3: I would enter a BBB or any reality show if
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 3: I said, look, I'm.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: A character and I'm going to cause this shit. Man,
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: and it's like... Anything you say is implied.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: You're like Dudu Camargo from Fazenda.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, that's it, that's it. Man, all
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: the time this boy appears to me on Twitter, man.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: Dudu Camargo.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: He's causing it there, because he.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: I call him a boy because he's a phenomenon.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: How many years is this boy?
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: And he has a fan club of his, Os Toletes, okay?
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: Os Toletes.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: Was that guy the one who shit in the microwave?
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: No, he shit in the towel. He shit in the towel,
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: they say.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: It's impossible.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: And he kept the towel inside the microwave.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: It's impossible.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 4: And then Otávio Mesquita went to warm up there and
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 4: thought he was with Mimic.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 4: Stop, stop, stop.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: In sports, there was a guy who was fired because
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 3: of the name.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: Have you seen him dancing? The president of his newspaper.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: The weekend has begun. He looks like a 40-year-old guy
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: in the body of a 20-year-old boy. Tell us his age.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: Do you want to kick him now?
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 3: Kick his age.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: 24. 22. No, he's older. 27.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: 27 years old.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 4: It's Dudu Camargo, man. You have to learn to be
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 4: a journalist with this guy.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic, man.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: He's embarrased. It's the mini Silvio Santos, right? He's going
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 2: to win the farm.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, man. If you want, you can use
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: my toilet. The guy pooped on the towel, man. I
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: think this is chaos.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: It's not possible. It's not possible for someone to shit in.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: It's not chaos, man. How does the news come out?
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: And he's immediately sent away from.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 2: Fake news.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: From SBT. And no one tells lies. No one tells lies.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: What's that, man? If you invent a story that you shit... Man,
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: I would be very pissed. Because I know you're shitting
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: in places.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 2: The story of my life was to tell lies. Everywhere
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: I went... It's a lie!
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't shit in the microwave!
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: He's taking it. He's taking it because he fucked up, dude!
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: He fucked up! With all due respect, Dudu, I think
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: you fucked up on the floor of SBT's dressing room.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: He gave an interview saying he didn't fuck up.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in him, man. Sorry.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in this part.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: We'll have to bring him here in the future to
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 4: change this idea and ask him if he fucked up
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 4: or not.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: He's going to say he didn't and I'm going to
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 3: get in a conflict with him. I'll say, I think
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 3: you fucked up.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: Has anyone ever done.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Something like this? A kind of weird thing like that?
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: Fuck up somewhere you shouldn't? Vomit. Every company has a
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: story like this, you know? Man... I think we already
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: had guests who got crazy and vomited.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 3: Do you know what the rhythm of the pod is?
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: We always traveled together, doing the podcasts. Alezinho, today, he's
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: the body of a father.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: He's an asset, bro. The kid is flying.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: But he was our producer. And then he slept, I think,
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: in the blanket, I don't know. And then, Alezinho, he's
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: a rockstar, bro. He was our producer, but he used
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: to give.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: He.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: Lived more than the two of us.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: You want to see a story? Once, we were in
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: Rio de Janeiro. Matuê wants to fuck.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: You guys, Igão. Let's take the fat guy, let's go.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: He arrived drunk there, in Matuê' s van. Arrived, threw up,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: dirty his own shirt, asked for a new shirt for Matuê.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: You know that guy who doesn't know.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: Where he is?
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: How can you get me a shirt that I ended
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: up throwing up? And he's in the space that belongs
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 3: to the guy. Matuê got a new shirt for him,
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: he liked Matuê' s show, he slept, the next day he
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: woke up, we told his crazy story, then Vitor said,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: laughing like this, Oh, Vertão, I think Alizinho shit on
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: the hotel floor.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: That's serious.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: Now, Werther, I need you to understand, he said, if
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: he shits, because he has a little accent from the interior,
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: if he shits.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: He won 10 points with me. 10,000 points. If he
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: shits on the floor, he has 10,000 points with me.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: This is sensational. So, we celebrate things like this, you know? So,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: is the guy capable of shitting in the company? And
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: I say like this... take a picture.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: And you're promoted.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 4: I was shocked, not because I was doubting, but because
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't know, I didn't see any picture, I didn't
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 4: know him shitting in the middle.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: Of the business. Man, in the interactive sports, there are
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: two unbelievable stories. The first is that a guy pooped
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: in the mictório.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: And was fired, right? Holy shit, man.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: This is Alesinho?
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: Ah, the guy took a picture of him.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: Ah, no, this is... This is.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: He got away cheap. And then... You know? Alesinho is
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: the guy who's here until today. And he already shit
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: himself here. He was that guy who.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: Peed and always got wet.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: And there's another story that's even more bizarre. No, this
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: story is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, bro.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: Look what we're talking about in your episode. It's going
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: to stay for eternity. It's one of the most unbelievable
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: of all. When I found out, I was shocked.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: There was a group... There was a group, no. There
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: was a program called Jogando em Casa. It was a
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: sports program at night. VSR represented it. It was a
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: serious program, a sports debate, you know? And then there was...
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: Every program has a group to solve things in the program.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: People work there and send reports and stuff.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: A guy... In the middle of the afternoon... Didn't he
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: send a picture of the dick in the group playing at.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: Home?
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  Speaker 3: He was going to send it to someone, he clicked
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: the notification in the group, he sent it.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: Did he send it to Durão? He sent it to
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: the group, man.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: Durão? Yeah, man.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: And then silence in the group. Installed silence, man. Silence
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: in the group.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: And then the guy didn't notice. Then the time went by,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: no one commented. Then came a time when you have
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: to talk about the show.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: And black people in the group, like, silence. How many
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: people in the group? Ah, man, there must be a
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: lot of people, man. I think that a group of
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: people like that, there must be about 20 people, you know? No.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: And then the guy... He was sent away, right? And
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: then the guy died, man. He must have asked for
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: a thousand forgiveness, but after a while he was sent away. Man,
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, man. There's an unbelievable story, man. A big
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: company like this, there's always a shit happening, man. Fuck,
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: I said... Until today, he must be like this, man.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: I said this to Mítico, man.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: I said, Mítico, our company is getting big, man. To
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: the extent that people are going to get to know
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: each other at Podpá. They're going to start dating. They're
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: going to get married.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: There will be some son of a bitch or some
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 3: daughter of a bitch who will betray the boyfriend or girlfriend.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: And will come to make a scandal in here. I said,
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: this place will see things there. Or will betray there, right? Yes,
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: or will betray in here. Because there is space for that.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: There is.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: Director taking.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: But there are cameras.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: There are cameras, yes. There are a lot of cameras. No,
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: I went to take a look here with Pedrinho and
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: show here the size of the structure. My brother, there
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: is a place to lose here, it's crazy.
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: We know there is, but there are cameras in strategic points,
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: but we are going to face this problem, let's go.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: To the work process, it's going.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 4: To get there, human beings, right, human beings, when you
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 4: put them together, it's like shit, it's shit, but we're.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: Prepared for this, right, thank God, right?
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: A gente é uma dupla, né?
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: Com certeza. Só de pensar isso deu dor de cabeça.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: Alan, queria saber se você curtiu participar aqui hoje, irmão.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: Tá doido, mano. Prazerzaço estar aqui, assistir vários episódios de vocês.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: Tá quase no mil, né, mano?
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: Sim, mano. Vim antes do mil.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: Irado, mano. Irado, mano. Prazerzaço contar um pouquinho da trajetória,
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: da história, debater. O seu react nosso do craque neto.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: I think he's a great guy, right? He and Shake
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: were phenomenal. I laughed a lot. A lot of guys
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: do things like this. Thank you so much for the
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: invitation and the opportunity. I hope you enjoyed learning a
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: little bit about Alan's story. When you want, I'm available
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: to be here again. Please, let me know when you're
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: in São Paulo. I really like the guys, the guys
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: from Casé. If you're in Rio, let's see each other.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: I'm really happy this episode happened. And that's it.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 3: Leave the like, subscribe to the channel, follow Alan on
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: all social media, they'll be there in the description. Watch,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 3: follow the live, do live on Kik.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'm on Kik.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 3: Live on Kik, and then there's the cuts there on YouTube.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: Follow Corts do Estágio.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: It's good as fuck. I recommend it. I recommend it
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: and watch. My partner, what will there be, Alex? Tomorrow will... Ah, tomorrow,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: remembering that the episode with Whindersson Nunes is at 6pm.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: Okay? Let's go, guys. Do the mythical honors.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: Dignity....
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: Already.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: Applause!