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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hi, guys. Welcome to By Order of the Faithfuls with me,
- 0:06Speaker 1: Tamara Judge, and Dolores. Hi, Dolores.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Hi. How are you?
- 0:10Speaker 1: Good. You've been traveling around. I've been traveling around. I
- 0:13Speaker 1: was in New York two days ago, then Orange County,
- 0:15Speaker 1: now Arizona.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I didn't get to see you. I'm so sad. You
- 0:18Speaker 2: were here for a minute.
- 0:19Speaker 1: I know.
- 0:19Speaker 2: I had a fashion show I had to be in.
- 0:22Speaker 2: For Studio for Threads, guys, if you want the cutest clothes,
- 0:26Speaker 2: go on there.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Okay.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Studio for the ride.
- 0:29Speaker 1: We had fun. We went to, uh, took the kids.
- 0:32Speaker 1: We got there, landed, got to, um, the hotel, like
- 0:36Speaker 1: at five o'clock and then we stayed at the Gansport.
- 0:41Speaker 1: And then from there we went to a jazz club.
- 0:45Speaker 2: How was it?
- 0:46Speaker 1: It was good. It was inside the Roxy hotel. By
- 0:48Speaker 1: the way, I have never been to the Roxy. I've
- 0:50Speaker 1: never seen the Roxy. It's kind of a vibe. It's
- 0:52Speaker 1: kind of a cool hotel. When you get there, there's
- 0:55Speaker 1: a photo booth. It's kind of young. It's like Sophia
- 0:59Speaker 1: would like it. Yeah, and then it had a swing
- 1:01Speaker 1: band playing at the bar downstairs, and then there's a
- 1:04Speaker 1: theater upstairs, and next to the theater is a jazz club.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Went there, took the kids there. They loved it. Went
- 1:11Speaker 1: to watch What Happens Live. Sophia nailed it. She did
- 1:14Speaker 1: a great job. She did.
- 1:16Speaker 2: She said a very nice thing about you.
- 1:18Speaker 1: I know. It was very sweet. And then they took
- 1:21Speaker 1: me vintage shopping, which not my thing, but it's fun.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Went and did that. And then went to a comedy club.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Oh, how was that?
- 1:32Speaker 1: That was fun.
- 1:33Speaker 2: It was fun. Were there any good comedians?
- 1:35Speaker 1: Well, it was like amateur night and they were at
- 1:37Speaker 1: the last round. So somebody won and then they had
- 1:41Speaker 1: like a really good comedian come out. And she was
- 1:44Speaker 1: funny as hell. She actually reminded me of you so much.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Me? Oh, was she from New Jersey or New York
- 1:50Speaker 2: or Brooklyn?
- 1:51Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like a New Yorker. She's like, shut
- 1:53Speaker 1: the fuck up.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Do you hear me?
- 1:54Speaker 1: I say, shut the fuck up. My husband does that?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.
- 1:57Speaker 1: And I was just like dying. I was dying. But
- 2:00Speaker 1: I got home. I was home for one day and
- 2:03Speaker 1: came to my mom's house. And now, like I said,
- 2:05Speaker 1: going to Big Bear to drop off a load of
- 2:08Speaker 1: all my mom's groceries.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Does it ever end? Does it ever end?
- 2:11Speaker 1: I got to go home after that. I'm going to
- 2:13Speaker 1: spend the night in Big Bear, then go home because
- 2:16Speaker 1: all my Oktoberfest stuff that I had delivered is in
- 2:19Speaker 1: Orange County. So go home for two days and then.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Back up to Big Bear. So you're having an Oktoberfest
- 2:25Speaker 2: party in Big Bear?
- 2:26Speaker 1: So they have a huge Oktoberfest in Big Bear. So
- 2:30Speaker 1: people come from around the world. It's one of the
- 2:32Speaker 1: biggest Oktoberfest celebrations ever.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Get out. From what I hear, yes.
- 2:37Speaker 1: So my mom and her boyfriend and Sophia and Nico
- 2:43Speaker 1: and Ryan and Jenny and Ava's going. And we got
- 2:47Speaker 1: them all. We have all costumes that we're wearing.
- 2:50Speaker 2: You're really into it. It's like- One of those family.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Third year, I think. Third year we're going.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, good.
- 2:59Speaker 1: This is the first year that the family's going to go.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Send pictures. I want to see it.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Oh, you bet your sweet ass I'll be sending pictures.
- 3:07Speaker 1: But then my mom's house closes, I think, on the
- 3:10Speaker 1: 22nd we're shooting for. And that's going to be exciting
- 3:12Speaker 1: because then I'm going to have so many projects to
- 3:15Speaker 1: do with decorating and You're good at that.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Your house is so cute. I love your like, you
- 3:21Speaker 2: have a lot of like gold, right? Gold appliances and
- 3:24Speaker 2: things like that. I love your house. I love it.
- 3:29Speaker 1: I am like obsessed with being online. Like, you know,
- 3:33Speaker 1: cause we're painting the kitchen cabinets and she liked mine,
- 3:36Speaker 1: which is like a earthy green color and big bear.
- 3:40Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I want to do something different.
- 3:42Speaker 1: So I'm like, let's go this way.
- 3:44Speaker 2: So what's the different, which one are you doing different?
- 3:47Speaker 1: I'm going to do a slate blue with brass.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Yeah. And then a wood. I think I'm going to
- 3:54Speaker 1: do like a wood island in there.
- 3:57Speaker 2: You're good at that. Are you like artsy like Sophia?
- 4:00Speaker 1: I'm not artsy, but I've loved decorating since I was
- 4:03Speaker 1: a kid. I would redecorate my room and buy stuff.
- 4:06Speaker 1: People were buying clothes. I did that too, but it
- 4:08Speaker 1: was mostly like stuff to decorate my bedroom.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyway, so let's get into episode six. We're
- 4:17Speaker 1: on episode six and they haven't gotten a trader out yet.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Well, when do they typically? By episode four, correct?
- 4:25Speaker 1: I think like at least by five. I don't know.
- 4:28Speaker 1: These traders are good. And they're good maneuvering around the
- 4:33Speaker 1: round table.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean?
- 4:35Speaker 1: Like, they've been swishing. We'll get to it in a minute.
- 4:37Speaker 1: But it starts out where Clyde, Naya, Joe, and Mark
- 4:40Speaker 1: are still in their coffins. One of them will be
- 4:43Speaker 1: murdered tonight. Joe and Naya have a coffin next to
- 4:45Speaker 1: each other. Joe tells her that he had to sacrifice
- 4:49Speaker 1: a faithful tonight by throwing an apple to someone. He
- 4:52Speaker 1: warns her she will be murdered. Would you have told
- 4:55Speaker 1: her before she even knew?
- 4:59Speaker 2: Was he told to tell her?
- 5:00Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering because what if his voice was
- 5:03Speaker 1: a little bit louder than he thought and somebody else
- 5:05Speaker 1: out in the coffin world or standing around heard him talk?
- 5:10Speaker 1: He's giving himself away.
- 5:12Speaker 2: They made sure.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Do you think that was like an editing situation?
- 5:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Because I don't think I would have told her.
- 5:19Speaker 2: I think he might have had to. Just like when
- 5:22Speaker 2: I was in the church, if you turned around and
- 5:24Speaker 2: saw the traitors, you knew you were killed.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Right.
- 5:29Speaker 2: So they do reveal themselves to you right before you're
- 5:31Speaker 2: ready to be killed in some circumstances.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I was just concerned that he said it the way
- 5:38Speaker 1: it was edited. He said it before anybody had gotten
- 5:42Speaker 1: out of their coffins. And maybe somebody could hear me
- 5:46Speaker 1: outing myself as a traitor.
- 5:49Speaker 2: They are so airtight with... They probably practice... where the
- 5:58Speaker 2: faithfuls were standing opposed to where he was, if you
- 6:01Speaker 2: could hear it or not.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Just to say.
- 6:02Speaker 2: They did a dry run on that. There's no way.
- 6:05Speaker 2: I mean, I get it exactly. I understand what you're saying.
- 6:09Speaker 2: But yeah, no, they don't screw up like that. They
- 6:12Speaker 2: don't even let you walk down the hallway at the
- 6:14Speaker 2: same time.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Right. So when he said that, suddenly Alan announces that
- 6:19Speaker 1: she was murdered and The look on her face of
- 6:22Speaker 1: just pure disappointment and sadness when he admitted.
- 6:25Speaker 2: I've never seen someone take it so hard yet. Have you?
- 6:29Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I'd have to think back. But
- 6:32Speaker 1: she did not expect it from him. Then we get
- 6:34Speaker 1: a flashback of earlier in the night. So Joe convinced
- 6:37Speaker 1: Nia to play a game of catch with her. Now,
- 6:40Speaker 1: do you remember when he was in the study and
- 6:42Speaker 1: he threw an apple at somebody and they missed it?
- 6:43Speaker 1: Was it her as well?
- 6:44Speaker 2: No.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Earlier in the day, was it somebody else?
- 6:47Speaker 2: No. It was the blonde. Oh, that's right. Morgan, I believe. Oh,
- 6:51Speaker 2: it's Morgan. That's right.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So we get a flashback and throw in the apple.
- 6:53Speaker 1: She misses it the first time he throws it again.
- 6:56Speaker 1: She catches it. And it's just, it goes and you're
- 7:01Speaker 1: just like, they can never play this game again. They
- 7:04Speaker 1: will never be able to play this game again because
- 7:07Speaker 1: it's kind of like my season was the chalice. Whoever
- 7:10Speaker 1: drank out of the chalice was going to be murdered. Now,
- 7:14Speaker 1: as a gamer going into it, you're going to study
- 7:16Speaker 1: all this. You're going to be like, I got to
- 7:18Speaker 1: be careful of anything anybody feeds me, hands me, throws me.
- 7:22Speaker 2: What was my season? I don't know.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Do they do it every season?
- 7:27Speaker 2: They didn't do it my season.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so. And then he has the
- 7:31Speaker 1: balls to tell.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Her he loves her.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And I'm like, go f * * * yourself. Like
- 7:35Speaker 1: that comedian in New York, go f * * * yourself.
- 7:37Speaker 2: She was like probably my cousin. Yeah, exactly.
- 7:42Speaker 1: So then Joe, Mark, and Clyde are released from the
- 7:44Speaker 1: coffins while Nia's tombstone is lit on fire. She's crying.
- 7:49Speaker 1: She's like guttural.
- 7:51Speaker 2: She's gutted.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Yeah, she did not want to go home.
- 7:54Speaker 2: She didn't.
- 7:54Speaker 1: No.
- 7:55Speaker 2: No.
- 7:56Speaker 1: She's like, I would never do that to Joe. I'm like, yeah,
- 7:59Speaker 1: you would. If you had the power, sure you would. Yeah.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And Joe's like, they might be upset about it, but
- 8:04Speaker 1: I did what I had to do.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Tamika was upset because they were so close. Like he
- 8:10Speaker 2: was like, well, in his confessional, he's like, I hope
- 8:13Speaker 2: Tamika isn't mad at me because, you know, they were
- 8:18Speaker 2: so close and she needed her as an ally. Katie, too.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Katie was close with her, too.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Well, my question is, and they do have this conversation,
- 8:27Speaker 1: the two of them, Katie and Tamika, about why he
- 8:30Speaker 1: chose her. Did they not have any conversations as traitors,
- 8:33Speaker 1: as a group, of who should be murdered? Just like, hey, Joe,
- 8:37Speaker 1: go murder whoever you want.
- 8:39Speaker 2: No, here's the thing. It's whoever you can get to
- 8:43Speaker 2: take the bite, you know, to... Yeah.
- 8:46Speaker 1: No, I get that. I get that.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So it's not about... So it's not like.
- 8:49Speaker 1: He targeted her. She was just an easy target at
- 8:52Speaker 1: the moment.
- 8:52Speaker 2: She was an easy target. And you don't know in
- 8:54Speaker 2: the moment who's going to be the easy target at
- 8:56Speaker 2: the time.
- 9:04Speaker 1: So they're mixing things up in this castle. And today
- 9:07Speaker 1: they're not having breakfast in the breakfast room. They are
- 9:10Speaker 1: doing it in the kitchen. I love how they're always
- 9:13Speaker 1: changing things.
- 9:14Speaker 2: I really do.
- 9:14Speaker 1: So it's not like predictable. Um, so at breakfast the
- 9:19Speaker 1: next morning, they are eaten in the kitchen and Tamika
- 9:22Speaker 1: and Katie are not happy that Joe killed Nia. Katie's
- 9:25Speaker 1: going to try to put the heat on Michael tonight
- 9:28Speaker 1: at the round table.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Have you noticed, see in my head, I felt like, um,
- 9:37Speaker 2: when Tamika and Katie were talking that they were going
- 9:40Speaker 2: to come to a decision on to turn on Joe,
- 9:45Speaker 2: because by now the traders also start to turn on
- 9:48Speaker 2: each other when the heat gets.
- 9:49Speaker 1: I think that's coming.
- 9:52Speaker 2: I don't see it in either one of them. They're
- 9:56Speaker 2: not vicious. They're not gamers. Remember, we're talking about regular
- 10:01Speaker 2: people now.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Yeah, but we got Victor, the mastermind. Victor, self-proclaimed mastermind.
- 10:07Speaker 1: He is on it. He knows what's going on. He
- 10:11Speaker 1: is calling it out.
- 10:12Speaker 2: I can't get past that he farted in the claw fence.
- 10:14Speaker 1: I know.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I mean, Victor, he's ready to present all the evidence
- 10:19Speaker 1: against Tamika and Joe. And he is. He's trying every
- 10:21Speaker 1: chance he can. Victor talks to Mark and Morgan about Fruitgate.
- 10:25Speaker 1: While they're talking, you know, as he's talking to them,
- 10:29Speaker 1: they're laughing.
- 10:30Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, right.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Okay. Nobody takes Victor serious. And that's the problem.
- 10:34Speaker 2: That is the problem.
- 10:35Speaker 1: They are going to be like smacking themselves in the
- 10:38Speaker 1: face like me, Shannon, and Heather did in Orange County.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Please don't ever hit me.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Oh my God, that was the funniest scene ever though
- 10:45Speaker 1: in Orange County. Every time I watch it, I laugh
- 10:47Speaker 1: my ass.
- 10:47Speaker 2: You just enjoyed slapping Heather so much with your big ring.
- 10:51Speaker 1: And then Shannon, I think they put sound effects in,
- 10:54Speaker 1: so I didn't really hit her that hard.
- 10:55Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. I go, they did. That
- 10:58Speaker 2: slap sounds a lot harder than anybody that like, because
- 11:01Speaker 2: she wasn't, nobody, none of you were like, freaking out.
- 11:04Speaker 2: I would have headbutted somebody. Well, the little.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Backstory, we had to sit there for 45 minutes in
- 11:10Speaker 1: our van because the lighting wasn't up yet, or they
- 11:13Speaker 1: were having problems.
- 11:13Speaker 2: With the lighting. You were slap happy.
- 11:15Speaker 1: We had two bottles of champagne or something like that
- 11:17Speaker 1: in the car. So we were drinking. Oh. Uh-huh. Yeah.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Put that little backstory on that one.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Got it.
- 11:24Speaker 1: So the mastermind, Victor, he is trying to explain exactly
- 11:29Speaker 1: why he thinks Joe is a traitor. And the two
- 11:32Speaker 1: of them are basically laughing like, no, yeah, sure. We
- 11:35Speaker 1: don't believe anything you do. As Victor's giving them the deeds,
- 11:40Speaker 1: he's like, listen, he's throwing fruit.
- 11:43Speaker 2: That's what's happening.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Don't do that. And the next thing you know, Mark
- 11:46Speaker 1: opens his mouth and Joe throws food in his mouth.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I know, I know.
- 11:52Speaker 1: I'm like, you're, after hearing what Victor said, if you
- 11:56Speaker 1: believe him or not, why would you do that?
- 12:00Speaker 2: It's a, here's the thing. Okay. Because he's just not thinking.
- 12:08Speaker 2: You just, have they not watched it? Even me not
- 12:13Speaker 2: knowing the game as well as I should have when
- 12:15Speaker 2: I got there, which I think helped me. None of
- 12:18Speaker 2: us do. Exactly.
- 12:19Speaker 1: None of us do.
- 12:19Speaker 2: And it was only, you were what, second season? I
- 12:22Speaker 2: was only third season. We still didn't know the game check.
- 12:26Speaker 2: But we did know that people were murdered in places.
- 12:30Speaker 2: plain sight by taking something off someone else. So by
- 12:33Speaker 2: third season, I wasn't taking something off somebody. Somebody wasn't
- 12:38Speaker 2: handing me something and I was taking it. No way.
- 12:41Speaker 2: And I wasn't like the player of the century over here.
- 12:45Speaker 2: But I know enough not to do that.
- 12:47Speaker 1: How great the writers are for this show. When I
- 12:50Speaker 1: say writers, the ones that make the I don't even
- 12:53Speaker 1: know if they're called writers, but they're doing the competitions.
- 12:56Speaker 2: The creatives.
- 12:57Speaker 1: The creatives on this. Because if they do the same
- 12:59Speaker 1: thing every single year, it would be too easy to
- 13:03Speaker 1: figure things out. So they're always constantly changing things up.
- 13:06Speaker 1: If it's the competitions or the missions or if it's
- 13:09Speaker 1: eating in the freaking dining room versus the kitchen. They
- 13:12Speaker 1: do not want this show to get stale. They are
- 13:14Speaker 1: so good at their job. They have to keep finding people.
- 13:18Speaker 2: There's a lot of brilliant, brilliant, brilliant minds in this world.
- 13:22Speaker 2: And that's why we have some of them over there.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Yep.
- 13:25Speaker 2: And that's, it's just like a second season of any
- 13:31Speaker 2: type of anything, you know, any show, every season has
- 13:35Speaker 2: to do better. And it's no different than, you know,
- 13:40Speaker 2: another season of, of anything, whether it's reality, whether it's
- 13:44Speaker 2: a game show.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Unless it's housewives, the same every year, just different, same stuff,
- 13:50Speaker 1: different ladies.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Listen, we know how the play's going to end.
- 13:53Speaker 1: We always know. We always know. So Joe's taking extra
- 13:56Speaker 1: precaution to get the heat off of him.
- 13:58Speaker 2: He's even eating apples. All the time.
- 14:00Speaker 1: And I'm like, Joe, chomping on that apple was enough
- 14:03Speaker 1: for me to banish you right there. Like, stop. You
- 14:06Speaker 1: need to stop right now.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Oh, God, it's bad.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so we have Matt, who thinks Michael
- 14:13Speaker 1: is a traitor because he's an attorney. And the traitors
- 14:16Speaker 1: probably recruited him. Victor is convinced that Tamika and Joe... are,
- 14:22Speaker 1: you know, they're traitors and he's willing to go to
- 14:24Speaker 1: war over this. Like he's putting himself out there to
- 14:28Speaker 1: get murdered.
- 14:29Speaker 2: So he was, but he was, where he was wrong
- 14:33Speaker 2: was he was so excited about, and he doesn't even know,
- 14:37Speaker 2: but he was so excited about his theory that he
- 14:41Speaker 2: didn't play it right. He was smart, but he didn't
- 14:44Speaker 2: know how to execute it. So here's the thing. He
- 14:47Speaker 2: should have, if I was him and I was so
- 14:50Speaker 2: sure I would have gotten closer to them. kept an
- 14:53Speaker 2: eye on them, and then tried to figure out who
- 14:56Speaker 2: I could trust outside of them. Yeah. See, I'm ready
- 15:00Speaker 2: to go back.
- 15:00Speaker 1: You are ready to go back. Well, for today's mission,
- 15:04Speaker 1: the players will need to work together to match a
- 15:06Speaker 1: past player's head to the correct coffin using their scream
- 15:10Speaker 1: as the only clue. Are you offended that you were
- 15:13Speaker 1: not on a jar and your face was not on
- 15:14Speaker 1: a jar? Yes. Are you? Me? No, because I was
- 15:17Speaker 1: a nothing burger, but you went all the way to
- 15:18Speaker 1: the end.
- 15:19Speaker 2: No, enough with Maura. Enough already.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Laura's getting everything, isn't she?
- 15:26Speaker 2: Did you see her at Victoria's Secrets last night with
- 15:28Speaker 2: her white painted-on outfit?
- 15:30Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that.
- 15:31Speaker 2: There were so many. She's actually very nice in person.
- 15:33Speaker 2: I didn't want her to be that nice.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Really? Well, she's very beautiful.
- 15:36Speaker 2: She was very sweet. She was very nice, yes. She's
- 15:41Speaker 2: going far, and she's got another show. Her and Rob
- 15:43Speaker 2: have a show.
- 15:43Speaker 1: That's awesome. So... The faces from previous, from the past
- 15:48Speaker 1: were on these jars. And Clyde is super excited about
- 15:52Speaker 1: this mission because he was in an acapella group. So
- 15:56Speaker 1: he can nail these screams.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Bob the Drag Queen scream was very different.
- 16:02Speaker 1: He sounded like an 18-year-old jacking off. Maura sounded like
- 16:05Speaker 1: an 80-year-old smoker.
- 16:09Speaker 2: That's not how she sounded. Even Alan's like, that's not
- 16:12Speaker 2: how Maura sounded.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Right?
- 16:14Speaker 2: Right?
- 16:15Speaker 1: So they match all of them. This was a game
- 16:17Speaker 1: that I can get behind. I thought it was fun.
- 16:19Speaker 1: It didn't take much energy. They did well. It was
- 16:24Speaker 1: easy to figure out. This is a mission that I'd
- 16:27Speaker 1: be like, yes, I like this. I don't have to run.
- 16:30Speaker 1: I don't have to beat anything up. I don't have bugs,
- 16:32Speaker 1: nothing like that.
- 16:33Speaker 2: They're doing much better on the challenges than they are
- 16:35Speaker 2: on the round table.
- 16:37Speaker 1: They suck at the round table. So there's a lot
- 16:40Speaker 1: of theories floating around for tonight's banishment. Many of the
- 16:43Speaker 1: faithfuls suspect Michael was recruited. Abiel is convinced it's Wyatt,
- 16:49Speaker 1: and Michael thinks they're targeting Victor. Nobody is on, like,
- 16:54Speaker 1: everybody has different theories.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Abiel is disappointing me.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Abby is probably the smartest girl on this show.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Book smart.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Yes, it has zero common sense, which is not unusual.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I was just going to say. She's wrong. I was
- 17:10Speaker 2: just going to say. Right? And not only that, she's
- 17:12Speaker 2: telling the traitors. She's telling Joe.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I know.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Who's under like, who's right now very obvious to me
- 17:21Speaker 2: as a traitor.
- 17:22Speaker 1: I just, this is okay. So Victor, he is dead set.
- 17:28Speaker 1: That it's either Joe or Tamika. Okay. If you know
- 17:31Speaker 1: that it's either one of those, why go after Tamika?
- 17:35Speaker 1: Everybody loves her. She is like the Phaedra of my season.
- 17:39Speaker 1: She cannot do no wrong. She's sweet. She's kind. She's lovable.
- 17:43Speaker 2: You know what else he could do? He could go
- 17:45Speaker 2: to Tamika and say, Joe is dropping your name. See,
- 17:51Speaker 2: the regular people aren't playing that game yet. They're not
- 17:54Speaker 2: trying to pit them against each other.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 17:57Speaker 2: But- You know, as reality people and the gamers, we
- 18:01Speaker 2: live in a very, you know, a very duplicitous world
- 18:07Speaker 2: where we know, you know, we could kind of, once
- 18:11Speaker 2: we get to know, we could kind of be a
- 18:14Speaker 2: chameleon and go right into it.
- 18:16Speaker 1: He equally thinks they're both traitors. Why is he going
- 18:21Speaker 1: after Tamika? Why not Joe?
- 18:23Speaker 2: I don't know. Why do you think? I don't know.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Same type of idea. You noticed it. Why do you
- 18:27Speaker 2: have to?
- 18:28Speaker 1: No, I noticed it only because everybody, Tamika's one of
- 18:30Speaker 1: those girls that everybody loves. You were that person on
- 18:33Speaker 1: your cast. Well, Phaedra was that on my cast. Like
- 18:37Speaker 1: everybody trusts this person, loves this person. So nobody out
- 18:40Speaker 1: there truly was believing what Victor was saying.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Because he's so excited about knowing. Like a puppy. About
- 18:49Speaker 2: thinking who the traitors are that he's not thinking it through, Tamara.
- 18:53Speaker 2: He's not. He, he just wants to try to get
- 18:56Speaker 2: them out, but he doesn't have the backing yet. You
- 18:59Speaker 2: have to have the backing of the people behind you.
- 19:02Speaker 1: It's your delivery, right?
- 19:03Speaker 2: A trader. Yeah. You have to be my problem in life.
- 19:07Speaker 1: I might be right, but it's my damn delivery.
- 19:10Speaker 2: That's right in mind.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Wrong.
- 19:11Speaker 2: And reason is those saying.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good saying. I don't think I've ever
- 19:14Speaker 1: heard that before.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Yeah. So That's where you become wrong, even if you're right.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my, I got the case of that. Yeah.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Historically speaking, I have the case of that. So they're
- 19:34Speaker 1: at the round table. Victor brings up fruit gate and
- 19:37Speaker 1: says the traders slipped up. He's targeting Tamika specifically, which
- 19:42Speaker 1: I think was his biggest mistake. Tamika defends herself not
- 19:45Speaker 1: very well. She even goes as far as to say
- 19:48Speaker 1: there were five out in the fridge. Don't give that
- 19:52Speaker 1: much detail. You counted them. You knew. Did you have
- 19:55Speaker 1: five chances?
- 19:56Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right, right.
- 19:58Speaker 1: That wasn't smart for.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Her to say that. See, I didn't even think of that.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Did not even think of it. I saw apples in
- 20:03Speaker 1: the refrigerator. I didn't know exactly how many were in there.
- 20:05Speaker 2: If you know someone's lying, even when a guy's lying
- 20:08Speaker 2: to you about something and you ask him something, he's lying.
- 20:10Speaker 2: He starts to get very detailed about what he did.
- 20:13Speaker 2: So I was here and then I went here and
- 20:15Speaker 2: then this was my conversation. When you question somebody and
- 20:18Speaker 2: they get very detailed, you're freaking out. They're lying. Yes.
- 20:21Speaker 2: That was so good. I didn't see that coming.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Well, the heat is on to me at this point,
- 20:29Speaker 1: but Joe, he changes the subject so fast and immediately
- 20:34Speaker 1: asks Abby about Wyatt. So then everybody's talking about Wyatt.
- 20:37Speaker 1: And then it starts, everybody is off. Everybody, except for Victor.
- 20:43Speaker 1: So when the conversation switches- Isn't he going to be
- 20:45Speaker 1: around long? I know. Well, the conversation switches to Michael.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Then suddenly the entire group is going after Michael with
- 20:53Speaker 1: all these different theories. Michael says he's been using his
- 20:57Speaker 1: attorney skills to help the faithfuls. Now, putting- Michael as
- 21:04Speaker 1: a traitor is like putting Tom Sandoval as a traitor,
- 21:08Speaker 1: like because Michael's an attorney, he'd be expected.
- 21:11Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 21:12Speaker 1: Like it's too obvious.
- 21:14Speaker 2: No, I know. I know that. Right. Yeah. But you're
- 21:19Speaker 2: never there. You can't you can't think that way because
- 21:23Speaker 2: there's never going to be.
- 21:25Speaker 1: A consistent thing.
- 21:28Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like I'm curious to see
- 21:31Speaker 2: if there was any, uh, trader housewives this season.
- 21:33Speaker 1: I know. I can't wait. So they vote them off.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Michael's gone. Bye.
- 21:41Speaker 2: I felt a little bad when I, I feel like
- 21:45Speaker 2: Michael could have held his case a lot better at
- 21:47Speaker 2: the round table, but I think that even to the
- 21:50Speaker 2: best of them, he's used to being on his feet.
- 21:52Speaker 2: He's used to trying a case and everything like that.
- 21:56Speaker 2: What is he, a defense attorney?
- 21:58Speaker 1: Yeah, criminal.
- 21:59Speaker 2: If you're a criminal defense attorney, defend yourself. Get up
- 22:04Speaker 2: off that chair and talk like you're talking to a
- 22:06Speaker 2: jury and defend yourself.
- 22:10Speaker 1: He could have done a better job. I'm just glad
- 22:13Speaker 1: they didn't banish Victor because I need to see more Victor.
- 22:16Speaker 1: I need to see what's going on. Am I afraid
- 22:19Speaker 1: he's going to be murdered? Yes, I am.
- 22:22Speaker 2: I'm afraid Tamika has taken him out.
- 22:24Speaker 1: I don't see. Okay. We'll see about that because it
- 22:28Speaker 1: was left on a cliffhanger. Like her last words were,
- 22:31Speaker 1: he needs to go, but don't you think someone's going
- 22:34Speaker 1: to talk him out of it? Because if they leave
- 22:36Speaker 1: it on a cliffhanger that he needs to go, right.
- 22:39Speaker 1: You know, that Joe's going to be like, okay, if
- 22:41Speaker 1: he goes, needs to go, then guess what? They're going
- 22:44Speaker 1: to banish you because they're going to think you did it.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Well, she could, she could defend herself by saying, if
- 22:50Speaker 2: I was a traitor, Would I be stupid enough to
- 22:53Speaker 2: get rid of him after he came for me?
- 22:54Speaker 1: And that's the flip side to it.
- 22:56Speaker 2: And people will believe that.
- 22:57Speaker 1: She'll say, I was set up.
- 22:59Speaker 2: I'm set up. That table will say no real traitor
- 23:03Speaker 2: would have done that. If there was ever a time
- 23:06Speaker 2: to banish him, it's now because people will say she
- 23:10Speaker 2: would have never been that stupid to do that.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Right. So it could go either way. It could, you know,
- 23:16Speaker 1: the faithfuls can start thinking like we are not getting
- 23:21Speaker 1: These traders out. We need to think outside of the
- 23:24Speaker 1: box now. Maybe Victor's right. I think their smartest decision
- 23:29Speaker 1: would be to get rid of Victor. I don't want
- 23:30Speaker 1: him to go because he's such a good player, but
- 23:32Speaker 1: get rid of him. And then she can play both sides,
- 23:35Speaker 1: either if they go after her and think she was
- 23:37Speaker 1: the reason why and she's a trader. She can be
- 23:39Speaker 1: just like, why would I do that? Like you said,
- 23:41Speaker 1: why would I do that?
- 23:42Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I would never do that. I
- 23:44Speaker 2: was set up.
- 23:45Speaker 1: I was set up.
- 23:45Speaker 2: You know who would be the first one to fall
- 23:47Speaker 2: for that? All of them. Abby Lee.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Oh my Abby Lee.
- 23:53Speaker 2: How is she still on the show? They need to
- 23:55Speaker 2: keep her forever because she runs back to the traders
- 23:58Speaker 2: and tells all the traders what everyone's saying about them.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're right.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Get rid of her. They're not, she is.
- 24:04Speaker 1: They're not going to get rid of her.
- 24:06Speaker 2: She is safe to the end.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Well, Victor isn't letting this fruit gate. There you go.
- 24:11Speaker 1: And he says to me, cause defense was weak and
- 24:13Speaker 1: her defense was weak. The only thing that.
- 24:15Speaker 2: She said was weak too. Yeah. I had five apples.
- 24:19Speaker 1: There was five apples in there. I mean, she didn't
- 24:22Speaker 1: really stick up for herself. And Victor's like, the fruit
- 24:26Speaker 1: will set you free.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He's such a wank fest.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:31Speaker 2: So funny.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I know. And I think that's why people just don't
- 24:33Speaker 1: take him serious.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Well, that's what happened. You know, Dylan was like that
- 24:37Speaker 2: in the beginning. Nobody was listening to him in the beginning. Oh, really? Yeah.
- 24:43Speaker 2: When he called out Boston Rob in the beginning because
- 24:47Speaker 2: he didn't have a strong enough voice like, Boston Rob did.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Then people listened to him.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Well, Michael gets up there. His speech, I thought, was
- 24:58Speaker 1: the best thing he ever said the entire time. He
- 25:01Speaker 1: ends it with, to those who voted for me, I
- 25:04Speaker 1: will see you in court because I am a faithful.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:09Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my God.
- 25:11Speaker 2: But he's like, you can't shake me. I was the
- 25:13Speaker 2: only gay kid in my school that he knew of. Um,
- 25:17Speaker 2: he goes, friends can turn on me people. I didn't
- 25:19Speaker 2: expect at this table to turn on me. You know,
- 25:22Speaker 2: a lot of times people talk about what they went
- 25:26Speaker 2: through trauma, like at that round table. I mean, look at,
- 25:29Speaker 2: look at what you were dealing with when you were there,
- 25:31Speaker 2: you know?
- 25:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:33Speaker 1: So Victor's still not backing down when it comes to
- 25:36Speaker 1: Tameka and Joe, um, even Joe at this point, he
- 25:39Speaker 1: realizes Victor smarter than the faithfuls give him credit for.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Yeah.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I think the traders have a really hard decision.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Here's what happens. If Victor stays around and one of
- 25:53Speaker 2: them get called out as a trader, anything Victor says
- 25:56Speaker 2: from there on in is going to stick with them.
- 25:59Speaker 2: He's going to have an army behind him believing everything
- 26:01Speaker 2: he says because he was right in the beginning. Yeah,
- 26:04Speaker 2: I mean. So they got to get rid of him.
- 26:05Speaker 2: He's got to go.
- 26:06Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to. As a traitor, you would want
- 26:08Speaker 1: to get rid of him. And you just deal with
- 26:09Speaker 1: the consequences after and just make up some bullshit to
- 26:13Speaker 1: make up. No, no, I was targeted. I'm just, it's the,
- 26:17Speaker 1: but then I think there's going to be a certain
- 26:20Speaker 1: amount of people that would think he's right. He was right.
- 26:24Speaker 1: We've been wrong all along. Maybe he's right. So I
- 26:29Speaker 1: don't know. I think they're close to getting a traitor out. Hmm.
- 26:34Speaker 1: But who's the first one that's going to go?
- 26:38Speaker 2: Joe, I think.
- 26:39Speaker 1: You think Joe will go?
- 26:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Yeah. So then it ends.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Because Joe was in the coffin. Tamika wasn't. And people
- 26:47Speaker 2: that are in the coffin that live, usually they're like,
- 26:52Speaker 2: how come you made it out? So now you're looking
- 26:54Speaker 2: at the three people that made it out.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Well, until next week.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Smart thing right now for anybody to do would be
- 27:05Speaker 2: for Tamika to start turning on Joe.
- 27:09Speaker 1: I think that's going to happen.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Tamika and Katie stick together, get Joe out because Joe
- 27:14Speaker 2: got rid of Nia, who was their friend. And if
- 27:18Speaker 2: there's a lot of heat on Joe and they can't
- 27:20Speaker 2: see him and they see it coming, then they got
- 27:22Speaker 2: to start. It's weeding out now. You have to start
- 27:26Speaker 2: siding with people against the other traders. Otherwise, they're going
- 27:30Speaker 2: to pin you as one.
- 27:31Speaker 1: And my friend Matt, he's keeping a low profile. Nobody
- 27:33Speaker 1: talks about him. He barely talks.
- 27:36Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, listen, this is the first episode
- 27:40Speaker 2: I ever noticed him.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? I swear. And he's not a quiet person.
- 27:46Speaker 2: I'm like, who's this good looking kid?
- 27:48Speaker 1: I know. I know. But yeah, that was, I can't
- 27:53Speaker 1: wait for next week because I want to see if
- 27:54Speaker 1: Victor is going to be gone. You know, last week
- 27:58Speaker 1: I thought it was Katie was gone for sure because
- 28:00Speaker 1: there was suspicion on her.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Nope. But they forgot about her now because she wasn't
- 28:04Speaker 2: running around with an apple.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's going to get good. So we're what?
- 28:10Speaker 1: Next episode, seven, hopefully they'll get.
- 28:13Speaker 2: A traitor out. They got to get a traitor out
- 28:14Speaker 2: by seven. I mean, it's like, I don't see it though.
- 28:17Speaker 2: I don't see them getting any closer because once they
- 28:19Speaker 2: get rid of Victor.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Could you imagine if they went all season and couldn't
- 28:25Speaker 1: get a traitor out?
- 28:27Speaker 2: Is that possible? Anything can happen. Well.
- 28:31Speaker 1: That's never happened before.
- 28:32Speaker 2: That's never happened, yeah. No. Because the traitors turn on
- 28:35Speaker 2: each other.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:37Speaker 2: No. All right. Well, we'll see. All right.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Well, it was great seeing you. And thank you guys
- 28:42Speaker 1: for tuning in to another episode. And make sure you
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- 28:48Speaker 2: Write in what you think. If you disagree with us,
- 28:50Speaker 2: if you agree with us. And let us know.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Send it all. Bye. Bye.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Bye.