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Winner Of American Ninja Warrior Josiah Peppel The Fight For Flight · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: your exploration. Happy birthday to you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: You bet, man. Did you celebrate that day in a huge,
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Speaker 1: huge way, dude?
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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it was, it was fun.
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Speaker 3: Obviously being a American Ninja Warrior champion on your birthday
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Speaker 3: is a celebration enough, but, um, After such a taxing
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Speaker 3: season and a taxing night, I did prioritize my sleep.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, after that, it was really fun. Me and
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Speaker 3: a couple of friends, we went to Croatia.
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Speaker 3: There was a comp there that we did, but it
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Speaker 3: friends and family and enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing that I've always learned about you
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Speaker 1: is that this is an everyday thing for you in
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Speaker 1: the way of studying the art of the Ninja Warrior
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Speaker 1: and everything that you walk forward with. Because you've got
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Speaker 1: leadership qualities that just blow me away.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I try to set an example in
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Speaker 3: everything that I do. I mean, being on such a
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Speaker 3: public stage, there's a lot of people who I know
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Speaker 3: are looking at me and looking up to me, and
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Speaker 3: especially the kids I'm coaching on the day-to-day are always
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Speaker 3: kind of looking up at me and looking to me
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Speaker 3: for advice. And so trying to set that example and
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Speaker 3: be an inspiration to the next generation of the sport,
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Speaker 3: but also to anybody who's trying to try something new
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Speaker 3: because ninja is not a traditional sport. So being that
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Speaker 3: inspiration to convince people, Hey, you know, it's okay to,
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Speaker 3: it's okay to fail. It's okay to fall as long
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Speaker 3: as you get back up again. And it's, it's sometimes
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Speaker 3: good to get out there and try something that maybe
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Speaker 3: not everyone is doing. Try something new and don't be
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Speaker 3: afraid to chase what you love because it can lead
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Speaker 3: to crazy opportunities.
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Speaker 1: You know, just the other day, Mike Iceman told me
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Speaker 1: that it's going to be at the Olympics in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: And I said, is the cold water going to be there?
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Speaker 1: And he said, it better be there because that's part
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Speaker 1: of it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's really cool to see how far
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Speaker 3: the sport has come in the past 13 years that
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Speaker 3: I've been doing it. When I started, people had no
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Speaker 3: idea what ninja was. They asked if it was like karate.
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Speaker 3: And so to now be in the Olympics and actually
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Speaker 3: be an official sport that is recognized around the world
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Speaker 3: is really cool because I've seen it from where it was,
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Speaker 3: and I've watched it grow and been a part of
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Speaker 3: that for the entire journey.
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Speaker 2: And it's really cool to now be.
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Speaker 3: Such a big part in it and be– an American
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Speaker 3: Ninja Warrior champion after so many years of trying.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a very personal question, and because
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Speaker 1: of your quest with 13 years, and I'm also a
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Speaker 1: third-degree black belt in martial arts, and it's at that
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Speaker 1: point where I can't compete anymore, but the thing about
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Speaker 1: it is, though, is that for the younger people, my
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Speaker 1: name is still on the wall. Have you jumped to
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Speaker 1: that yet, or is that still ahead, where you're going
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Speaker 1: to have to say, okay, you may not see me
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Speaker 1: as the Ninja Warrior now, but if you look at
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Speaker 1: that wall, you'll see that I dedicated my soul to
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Speaker 1: that journey.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not quite there yet.
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Speaker 3: I still have more to give to this sport and
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Speaker 3: more time to compete. But that is my goal eventually
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Speaker 3: is to be an inspiration and be a coach and
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Speaker 3: kind of further the sport outside of competing. I know
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Speaker 3: I can't compete at the highest level forever. So I'm
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Speaker 3: going to compete to the fullest until then. And then
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Speaker 3: after that transition to moving the sport forward from the
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Speaker 3: other side of the curtain.
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Speaker 1: Dude, when the body doesn't want to do it anymore,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now, it really upsets
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Speaker 1: you deeply on the inside of your core because your
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Speaker 1: mind says, why can't I do this? And your body saying,
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Speaker 1: I I've been trying, I've been trying. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I want to know
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Speaker 1: more about these ninja warriors and How do you deal
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Speaker 1: with that when the body says, no, no, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to show up today?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it is tough, obviously, starting when I
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Speaker 3: was seven and had limitless energy now to at 20,
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Speaker 3: slowing down a little bit. I just have to change
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Speaker 3: the way I train and change the way I do things.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, I still am in peak condition.
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Speaker 3: I'm in the best shape I've ever been in, but
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Speaker 3: I need to focus more on warming up, stretching, making
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Speaker 3: sure I'm keeping my body in good shape because at
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, that's what's going to lead
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Speaker 3: to being in the sport for a long time. I
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Speaker 3: can't abuse my body too much too early or I
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Speaker 3: won't be able to do this for a long time.
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Speaker 2: However long I want to.
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Speaker 1: You've always been that guy that has mastered the whole
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Speaker 1: entire flight pattern. I mean, you know how to fly
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Speaker 1: through the air, but now I've got to ask you
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Speaker 1: that leadership question. They always say fight or flight while
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Speaker 1: you're in flight. Are you also in fight? In other words,
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Speaker 1: are you fighting to get to the edge or are
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Speaker 1: you using the energy of that flight to get you
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Speaker 1: to the top of that championship?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a little bit of both.
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Speaker 3: Um, As much as I try to stay flowy on
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Speaker 3: the course and stay calm and collected, in my head,
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Speaker 3: I know that I can push. And as soon as
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Speaker 3: I'm locked in, I'm ready to go. There's not much
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Speaker 3: that can stop me. I'm just going, and I'm going
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Speaker 3: to push.
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Speaker 2: All the way to the end.
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Speaker 1: So do you find yourself already in action to go
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Speaker 1: for the championship a second year in a row? Because,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's one thing. When I said that it's
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Speaker 1: every day, a lot of people don't understand that. Those
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Speaker 1: of us that are in matches like this, it never,
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Speaker 1: never goes away.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we're training and competing all year round.
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Speaker 3: And so I'm now prepping for season 19 of Ninja
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Speaker 3: warrior and yeah, I'm ready to be the defending champion
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Speaker 3: and I'm going for a second year running.
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Speaker 1: How do you deal with motion sickness? Because that's the
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Speaker 1: one thing that caught me off guard. I didn't, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's like, if your eyes are not where your body is, Oh,
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Speaker 1: you're going to crash.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we work so hard at just body and
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Speaker 3: spatial awareness. Um, there's so many times where in training,
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Speaker 3: I'll take like a slow-mo video of myself to like
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Speaker 3: show the kids how the body has to move and
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Speaker 3: how to get into certain positions. And you see all
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Speaker 3: the little things working together and how my hands can
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Speaker 3: be over here doing one thing and my legs and
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Speaker 3: feet are doing another. And just, it's all working together
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Speaker 3: to transition my momentum to go the right way. So
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Speaker 3: I think that's something that a lot of people don't
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Speaker 3: understand is like, I can be in very detailed control
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Speaker 3: of where exactly every part of my body is. Um,
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Speaker 3: And that's just something that over the years I've worked.
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Speaker 2: On and trained.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that the body does communicate? Because my
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Speaker 1: trainer was endlessly telling me your toes are talking to
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Speaker 1: your ankles, which are talking to your calves, talking to
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Speaker 1: your knees, right up into your abs. Do you believe
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Speaker 1: in that conversation and how do you tap into it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everything is connected.
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Speaker 3: And that's one of the biggest things in ninja is
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Speaker 3: to have your entire body in the right position.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you need to catch everything. balance.
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Speaker 3: As soon as you're hanging on something, you need your
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Speaker 3: weight and momentum going the right way so you can
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Speaker 3: stay holding on to it. So having everything connected and
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Speaker 3: being very in tune with where every little part of
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Speaker 3: your body is and what it's doing is very important.
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Speaker 1: How much does writing play in this? Because it is
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Speaker 1: the foot fist way and that way is the way
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Speaker 1: we think. How do you keep your mind intact as well?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the biggest things that led
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Speaker 3: to my success this season just was my mental game
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Speaker 3: and how I I was focused, especially coming off of
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Speaker 3: Season 17 with kind of my worst season. I was
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Speaker 3: really just focused on being back in the competition for
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Speaker 3: so long. I had ridden off my early success and
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Speaker 3: was just like, all right, I've done well enough. I
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Speaker 3: don't have to keep trying as hard. And so going
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Speaker 3: into Season 18, I was like, no, I need to
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Speaker 3: try again. I need to really push, and I can
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Speaker 3: win this if I really dedicate myself to it.
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Speaker 2: So I think that's the biggest.
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Speaker 3: Thing in our sport because we're all– The high level
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Speaker 3: athletes were all capable of doing the obstacles, but it's
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Speaker 3: the mental challenge and the consistency over so many runs,
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Speaker 3: so many nights, so many. hours competing, that really is
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Speaker 3: the difference maker at the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: You brought up a very interesting point there about last
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Speaker 1: season wasn't one of the best. It was a challenging season.
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Speaker 1: And yet just a few minutes ago, I was on
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Speaker 1: there on a conversation with Daniel from Shark Tank. And
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Speaker 1: we talked about those moments where we feel those losses.
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Speaker 1: But in reality, they are victories. So what did you
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Speaker 1: learn from that season that made you the crown king
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Speaker 1: or the champion this season?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest thing I've been telling people for the
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Speaker 3: past few years is that failure is not a bad
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Speaker 3: thing it's an opportunity to learn it's an opportunity to
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Speaker 3: learn lessons that you wouldn't have learned by just succeeding
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Speaker 3: immediately and so coming off of season 17 I really
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Speaker 3: learned that like I can't take success for granted I
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Speaker 3: can't just ride off of one success forever I need
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Speaker 3: to stay in it stay consistent and really try my
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Speaker 3: best because if I'm if I'm not trying that I
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Speaker 3: can't succeed and so I need to make sure my
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Speaker 3: mind is in it and make sure I'm actually giving
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Speaker 3: my all.
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Speaker 1: So outside of the circle of the American Ninja Warrior,
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Speaker 1: this is where a lot of people kind of point
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Speaker 1: at me and they make fun of me, but they
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Speaker 1: don't understand that you and I have got to sit
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Speaker 1: there and work on the strength of our grip at
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Speaker 1: all times. Those exercises look so freaky weird. How do
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Speaker 1: you deal with those moments where you're in public and
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Speaker 1: people are watching you work out?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, a lot of it is training in
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Speaker 3: the ninja gym with people that are like minded. But
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Speaker 3: whenever I'm going to a gym and I just need
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Speaker 3: to get a workout in it, there are always strange looks,
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Speaker 3: especially recently. We've been doing a lot of like weighted
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Speaker 3: pull ups. And so I have two hundred and ten
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Speaker 3: pounds of weights hanging off my body while I'm doing
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Speaker 3: pull ups. And there are strange looks, but I try
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Speaker 3: to be strong enough that it still looks cool.
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Speaker 1: The dude just won American Ninja Warrior. We'll be right
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Speaker 1: back with Josiah Papel. Oh, we got to get back
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Speaker 1: into that conversation with Josiah Papel, the winner of American
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Speaker 1: Ninja Warrior. How are you protecting that groin? Because I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what, that's a muscle that a lot of
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Speaker 1: people forget about or the Achilles tendon. And man, when
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Speaker 1: it says good night, it means it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, a lot of younger athletes, I think,
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Speaker 3: take for granted the importance of stretching and warmup and
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Speaker 3: all of that.
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Speaker 2: And so, As I've aged in.
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Speaker 3: The sport, I've realized how important it is to keep
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Speaker 3: my body in check outside of training and outside of
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Speaker 3: competing and just kind of keeping the upkeep and staying healthy.
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Speaker 1: Are you tapping into other forms of martial arts such
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Speaker 1: as Tai Chi or even Taekwondo or some sort of...
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Speaker 1: Because you've got to get that body to work with
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Speaker 1: the motions. Where your head is is where your body flows.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time is that your imagination can
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Speaker 1: take off and go in any direction. Yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 2: my whole life has been a ninja warrior.
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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of where, where I'm getting those lessons,
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Speaker 3: but it's so important to keep your, your mind focused
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Speaker 3: on things and keep your body all in line. Because
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Speaker 3: I tell my kids so many times that like, if
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Speaker 3: you're on an obstacle and you look down, you're going
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Speaker 3: to fall like where your mind is and where your
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Speaker 3: head's looking. That's where you're going to go. If you
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Speaker 3: want to get something, look at it. And that's where
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Speaker 3: your body's going to take it. That's the easiest way to,
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Speaker 3: To get where you want to go. And so I
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Speaker 3: think over the years, I've just learned how important it
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Speaker 3: is to be confident and also just like look towards
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Speaker 3: what you want to achieve and you will achieve it.
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Speaker 1: OK, so now I know what it's like to be
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Speaker 1: in a competition. A lot of listeners don't. But there
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Speaker 1: are things that we were able to do. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know what they do with you guys. But do
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Speaker 1: you get to go talk to the one you're about
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Speaker 1: ready to race against? Because we were given that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: And the very second that I would see them, I'm
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Speaker 1: watching their breathing pattern. I'm watching to see if their
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Speaker 1: muscles are twinging. I'm looking to see if their legs
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Speaker 1: are bending. Are you studying them before you go up
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Speaker 1: to that championship beginning?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, of course, we're always studying the athletes
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Speaker 3: around us. We're all in a holding tent together. And importantly,
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Speaker 3: we're all friends. So it is a very interesting environment.
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Speaker 3: It's all people that I've known for years and we've
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Speaker 3: spent a lot of time together.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, before race, even.
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Speaker 3: Though we are friends, you're still studying them, still looking
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Speaker 3: at them, still trying to size up the competition.
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Speaker 1: What are you doing for breathing exercises? Because my God,
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Speaker 1: that is so important because if you're breathing wrong, it'll
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Speaker 1: screw up your flight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of just breath work,
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Speaker 3: deep breaths, box breathing just to calm the nerves. But
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Speaker 3: especially on the course, a lot of people hold their
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Speaker 3: breath and that is not good. So making sure you're
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Speaker 3: breathing with every movement as soon as you tense your muscles,
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Speaker 3: kind of breathing through that, making sure you're providing.
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Speaker 2: Oxygen to your body is very important.
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Speaker 3: Which is something I've been working on for a long time,
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Speaker 3: staying calm and collected and focusing on breathing while I'm
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Speaker 3: running at such a high pace.
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Speaker 1: Can you hear those play-by-play announcers to the sidelines? Because
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Speaker 1: I've always been afraid of that, that would it control
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Speaker 1: me if I was up in the air like that
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Speaker 1: and I could hear the guys on the sidelines?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I block everything out.
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Speaker 3: There's very few people I can hear, sometimes a couple
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Speaker 3: of my friends, but honestly, I don't even hear the crowd.
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Speaker 3: As soon as I step up on that start line
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Speaker 3: and I'm going, it's just silence.
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Speaker 2: I'm so focused.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how the hell you guys are
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Speaker 1: even up that late at night or that early in
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Speaker 1: the morning, because I mean, I can't get my body
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Speaker 1: going until I've had at least 55,000 gallons of, of,
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Speaker 1: of caffeine here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's, it's tough. I don't drink any caffeine,
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Speaker 2: but we're filming from, yeah, we go all the way.
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Speaker 3: We get to set at 6 PM and we're all
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Speaker 3: the way there until 6 AM that championship race with
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Speaker 3: Kai was at like 5.30 in the morning and we
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Speaker 3: had been up all night.
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Speaker 2: So it is a challenge.
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Speaker 1: Dude, that's how we study for martial arts because, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's the thing about it. When you go for that
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Speaker 1: black belt test, it is always at the most awkward time.
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Speaker 1: And I swear to God, it's about learning how to
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Speaker 1: trust the atmosphere of right now. So I've got to
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Speaker 1: ask you, were you in your moment of now during
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Speaker 1: this time of the championship? Yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 3: It's all about what you've trained for. And so we
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Speaker 3: flip our sleep schedules leading up to it. We make
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Speaker 3: sure we're prepared as much as we can. And adrenaline
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Speaker 3: handles a lot of it. But I knew I was
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Speaker 3: I knew I was prepared and I knew that as
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Speaker 3: long as I could let my training handle it and
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Speaker 3: let let what I had done to prepare. Guide me
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Speaker 3: that I would I would get there as long as
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Speaker 3: I wasn't making any mistakes.
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Speaker 1: So there's two things that we do and that a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that especially those sideline. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to don't even say fans. Don't don't do that. What
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Speaker 1: I want to do is I want to say the
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Speaker 1: people that walk with us the entire way. There are
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Speaker 1: two things that we always bring up. Do I do
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Speaker 1: it again? Do I do it again? Or how was that?
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Speaker 1: How was that? How was that? How do you deal
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Speaker 1: with those moments where you go into a moment of
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Speaker 1: doubt and you're relying on those around you boost my
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Speaker 1: butt back up because I need to get back into
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Speaker 1: that competition.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, for so long I was, I was like,
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't need to keep doing this. Like I've,
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Speaker 3: I've accomplished enough, but now that I've seen the top
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Speaker 3: and I've talked to a couple of friends about, do
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Speaker 3: I step away?
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Speaker 2: Do I keep going? And they were all like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you should keep going.
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Speaker 3: And I think, For a little while, I was considering
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Speaker 3: stepping away, but now that season 19 is right around
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Speaker 3: the corner, I'm back in it, and I'm here to
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Speaker 3: defend my championship.
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Speaker 1: You got to be honest with me here when it
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Speaker 1: comes to this. I realize you're from Jersey and you're
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Speaker 1: right now the most famous person from Jersey. You're out
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Speaker 1: doing Bruce Springsteen. And the thing is, is that if
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Speaker 1: I were your manager, I want you in marketing right now.
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Speaker 1: I need you on commercials. I need you on magazines.
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Speaker 1: I need you everywhere. So where are we going to
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Speaker 1: see you beyond this moment? Because you've been crowned the champion.
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Speaker 1: I want you to be a marketing genius here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't know what's next for me,
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Speaker 3: but I'm definitely looking at a bunch of opportunities and
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Speaker 3: trying to put things together so that I can use
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Speaker 3: this success to its fullest.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So now what are your other areas of creativity? Because
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Speaker 1: I mean, all of this energy into one little shell,
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Speaker 1: there's got to be something else that you do that's
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Speaker 1: very creative.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of opportunities in Ninja.
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Speaker 3: I run a league where we host competitions, and I
16:00
Speaker 3: design a lot of obstacles for gyms around the country.
16:03
Speaker 3: But I'm a huge car guy.
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Speaker 2: I love cars. Yeah, when I.
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Speaker 3: Was 15 or 16, I bought a wrecked car and
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Speaker 3: rebuilt it in my parents' driveway, and I still drive
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Speaker 3: that car to this day. So stuff like that, sim racing,
16:20
Speaker 3: I'm a big Formula One fan. So that's kind of my...
16:24
Speaker 3: outside of athletics outside of ninja and building hobby.
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Speaker 1: See that doesn't shock me because you're into the mind
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Speaker 1: body and soul the spirit of it all you understand
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Speaker 1: how the engine works and how to get it started
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Speaker 1: so for you to be working on a car that
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Speaker 1: doesn't shock me because you totally get the process of
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Speaker 1: how to get to success.
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Speaker 3: Exactly yes and i've always had a very engineering mindset
16:47
Speaker 3: um ever since i was a kid i love taking
16:50
Speaker 3: things apart and seeing how they work and so the
16:52
Speaker 3: the The working on cars has always been something that
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Speaker 3: I've wanted to do. And now, especially with the money
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Speaker 3: I've made from Ninja, it's been really cool to get
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Speaker 3: that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Is there a moment that you're going to hold on
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Speaker 1: to forever that is just going to be that Josiah moment?
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Speaker 1: I mean, is it the championship or is it the
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Speaker 1: grind to get there?
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Speaker 3: I think the biggest moment, especially from this season, that
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Speaker 3: stands out to me and that is something I'll never
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Speaker 3: forget is actually before we filmed. It was before that
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Speaker 3: last night. I was preparing for the bracket, preparing for
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Speaker 3: all the championship races. And we got to set. It
17:28
Speaker 3: was 7, 8 p.m., sunset in Vegas. And everyone was
17:33
Speaker 3: kind of in a group just talking. We were about
17:36
Speaker 3: to go through rules for the night. And I just
17:37
Speaker 3: kind of walked off to the side. We're in a
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Speaker 3: stone and dirt lot.
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Speaker 2: Um, in Vegas.
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Speaker 3: And I just looked at the mountains and looked at
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Speaker 3: the sunset and really took in the moment and was
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Speaker 3: grateful to be there. And I think that moment will
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Speaker 3: always stick with me. Just kind of that moment of
17:52
Speaker 3: appreciation and enjoyment of life. how far I'd come and
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Speaker 3: again in that moment I had no idea that that
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Speaker 3: moment that that night would lead to me being the
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Speaker 3: champion but I could I could feel that it was
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Speaker 3: a special night.
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Speaker 1: Wow now do you travel around to the different schools
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Speaker 1: and talk with students to get them uplifted because right
18:09
Speaker 1: now they need someone like you Josiah they need a
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Speaker 1: warrior or just somebody who's so damn honest like you
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Speaker 1: are to say hey look you can do it but
18:19
Speaker 1: you've got to believe in it first.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the gym that I work at is the
18:24
Speaker 3: Grit Ninja. We have locations all over New England and
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Speaker 3: the Northeast. We actually go into schools and give talks,
18:31
Speaker 3: and I've been doing a lot of those last year
18:33
Speaker 3: and this year, and just kind of preaching that message of, hey, like,
18:37
Speaker 3: failure is not the end of everything. Like it's okay
18:40
Speaker 3: to fail. It's good to fail because that's how you
18:41
Speaker 3: learn your lessons. If you only ever succeed, if you
18:43
Speaker 3: only ever try a little bit so that you don't fail,
18:47
Speaker 3: you're never going to see how far you can go.
18:48
Speaker 3: And those failures are what are going to teach you
18:51
Speaker 3: the biggest lessons in life.
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Speaker 1: Your name is very spiritual, sir. Josiah, where's it coming from?
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Speaker 1: Because I, because your mom and dad obviously had a
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Speaker 1: vision and a plan for your purpose.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've always had a very strong faith.
19:04
Speaker 3: And so I've always wanted to uplift people and bring
19:08
Speaker 3: them closer again. Before every race this season, I said
19:12
Speaker 3: a little prayer and I was just like, God, give
19:14
Speaker 3: us strength.
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Speaker 2: And so that really took us, that took me far.
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Speaker 3: And so I think sharing that message of like, if
19:21
Speaker 3: you dedicate yourself to something and.
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Speaker 2: Ask God to be there with you, he will provide.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've got the glow. And my pastor, Stephen Furtick
19:29
Speaker 1: from Elevation Church says, you never have to say a word,
19:32
Speaker 1: just offer the glow. Just let people see your glow.
19:35
Speaker 1: And you've definitely got that glow. And that's the reason
19:37
Speaker 1: why I had to bring that up because there's something
19:39
Speaker 1: about your inside core that says that you are the champion,
19:43
Speaker 1: but you're willing to share the journey with those like
19:45
Speaker 1: Peter did. He turned around to help the people up.
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Speaker 1: And that's just, I just feel that about you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, my goal is to just lead by example,
19:54
Speaker 3: be the best version of myself and let my accomplishments.
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Speaker 2: Show people that they can. they can do it too
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Speaker 2: if they dedicate themselves to something.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you, Josiah?
20:05
Speaker 1: Because they have to understand this is not an overnight success,
20:08
Speaker 1: that you have seriously dedicated your entire life and soul
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Speaker 1: to this project and they too can do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, my Instagram, Josiah Appel, I'm posting all
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Speaker 3: the time, posting course runs, training, Ninja Warrior stuff, as
20:22
Speaker 3: well as just like lifestyle things, the things I'm passionate about.
20:26
Speaker 3: And that's really where It all happens that I show
20:29
Speaker 3: my authentic self because I don't want someone to see
20:32
Speaker 3: me on TV, see me on Instagram, and then meet
20:36
Speaker 3: me in person and go, oh, he's really different. I
20:38
Speaker 3: want to be my authentic self, and so I try
20:41
Speaker 3: to be the same person on and off the course.
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Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, dude. That's what it's all about.
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Speaker 1: You've got to come back to this show any time
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Speaker 1: in the future, Josiah. I love your energy. I love
20:50
Speaker 1: everything that you're doing with your mind, body, and soul
20:52
Speaker 1: because you're using it as the tool that it is.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: You be brilliant today, okay, Josiah?
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: You bet. See ya.