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Peter Pan's Dad Spinoff "Pan Dad" · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 1: Today on the podcast, we talked to some of the
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  Speaker 1: creators of a very exciting new Disney prequel.
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  Speaker 2: Disney's Become All about the live action reboot, the spinoff story,
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  Speaker 2: and like we'll see today, the prequel.
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  Speaker 3: The creators of Pan Dad join us to talk about
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  Speaker 3: their new spinoff about Peter Pan's father.
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  Speaker 4: Now giddy up, sit down, and get comfortable for an
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  Speaker 4: origin story of sorts, let's dream.
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  Speaker 5: Well, guys, I don't know about you. I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 1: It's really nice to be talking about something instead of
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  Speaker 1: making something with you guys from once, we always work
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  Speaker 1: so hard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's great to just talk about And since
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  Speaker 3: this was announced, and since Pan Dad was announced, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a mere forty eight hours ago, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Huge for us, huge for us. It's been huge for us.
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  Speaker 3: And we have been keeping this a secret for a while.
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  Speaker 3: We've been keeping this a secret for seventy two hours,
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  Speaker 3: which is when we found out we were doing this.
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  Speaker 2: So literally, you guys would not believe this. Seventy two hours.
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  Speaker 2: They gave us all a zoom link and said join
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  Speaker 2: and it was Bob Iiger and a bunch of the
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  Speaker 2: creative saying we've got an idea. We've got an idea,
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  Speaker 2: and what was the idea? Pant's dad, and we said,
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  Speaker 2: we love it, we love it, we love it. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to sink our teeth right into this right.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, it is called Pan Dad, Pan. I
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  Speaker 1: know we just got the idea, but it is called Pan.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, that was my mistake.
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  Speaker 3: That was a big discussion on the zoom whether it
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  Speaker 3: should be a possessive, but they eventually landed on they
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  Speaker 3: liked the rhyme and since Pan doesn't have an S
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  Speaker 3: on the end, they like Pan Dad.
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  Speaker 2: They like a clean and we Well, that was my
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  Speaker 2: big thing because I was trying to say Pan and
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  Speaker 2: Dad don't rhyme. They don't. Fundamentally, they're a slant rhyme
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  Speaker 2: if and that's a big slang.
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  Speaker 1: But look, mister Yeah, he had a mouthful of ruben
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  Speaker 1: and he screamed, we love how Pan and Dad rhyme,
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  Speaker 1: and you kind of don't, and you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Argue with that.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I think I am coming around to
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  Speaker 3: mister Iger's position that those two things do rhyme.
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  Speaker 5: I'm coming round to that opinion.
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  Speaker 6: I'm certainly coming aroun.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've given it. Like the last three eight hours,
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  Speaker 2: I've been definitely thinking about how those things sound together,
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  Speaker 2: and it for me, I'm now understanding what he meant
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  Speaker 2: by rhyme, and it felt like it rhymes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm coming around. I'm coming around to the sounds.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so we should introduce ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry, Oh this is just so exciting, right, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you guys saw D twenty three a big pan dad
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  Speaker 2: title card came out. So. My name is Gordon Bywater
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  Speaker 2: and I have been a writer's room ideation big thinker
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  Speaker 2: for Disney movies for a while. Now I do a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of fun animated shorts with my roommate on the side,
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  Speaker 2: but mostly I'm in the ideation process at Disney.
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  Speaker 6: Awesome. My name is Zuzzy Monk. I am writing the.
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  Speaker 1: Music and lyrics for uh, the, for The, for for PANDAD,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really excited. I've been writing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: off off Broadway musicals. I was doing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: musicals that were, you know, ripped from the headlines kinds
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  Speaker 1: of musicals.
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  Speaker 6: Uh you know.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, My big one was uh Scaramuccie off my Bucci
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  Speaker 1: when Anthony Scaramucci.
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  Speaker 5: Was so funny, I mean funny.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of a scathing review. So it and
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  Speaker 1: I got a little brieplt. I got a little uh cheeky,
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  Speaker 1: and I also I got a little let's just say, reverent.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be hard for them to tone
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  Speaker 1: me down, but I but they haven't and they will.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm really really excited because we have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great music.
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  Speaker 5: In this incredible Hi. I'm Terra Cotta Strong.
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  Speaker 4: I am a Disney illustrator and designer. I've been working
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  Speaker 4: there for twenty five plus years. I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 4: be on this team as the head illustrator and designer.
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  Speaker 4: My big calling card is I drew I designed Merda
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  Speaker 4: from Braves Hair.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I did. I drew all that.
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  Speaker 2: I designed that, and that was so funny and so
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  Speaker 2: fun that you did that. I thought, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: bring this beautiful understanding of how hair works to everything
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  Speaker 2: that you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, I'm not a hair girl, but
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  Speaker 4: that was what I think I'm most known for. Design wise,
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  Speaker 4: I did the Little Boy's Shoes and up so I've
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  Speaker 4: only had a little I've never been lead lead woman
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  Speaker 4: on a project art wise, and I just it's I
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  Speaker 4: usually only have like one part of a body of
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  Speaker 4: a character. So I'm really excited that I'm getting this
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to just be out here on the front lines
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  Speaker 4: with you creators.
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  Speaker 6: And I've always meant to ask this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. We just met kind of recently. Is
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  Speaker 1: your name Tara Cotta Strong or is Terra Cotta your
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  Speaker 1: first name?
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  Speaker 5: Tara Cotta is my first name, Strong is my last.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, thank you so much, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Tracy Coldwater and I am a I'm the
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  Speaker 3: director of this project somehow. I really I say somehow
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  Speaker 3: because I you know, I haven't worked with Disney before,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a it was a real whirlwind. I'm
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  Speaker 3: known for being the director of a lot of Dad movies,
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  Speaker 3: so they called me in because they wanted to bring
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  Speaker 3: a real dad perspective into this.
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  Speaker 5: And so I did.
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  Speaker 3: I did ADDIE's Home too, I did Father of the Bride,
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  Speaker 3: so did.
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  Speaker 2: The Fire You just so seventeen again, seventeen, You're by
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  Speaker 2: the dozen game, Blue the Stout Fat.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, maybe other directors have been listed as
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  Speaker 3: credited directors on those projects, but I have been ghost
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  Speaker 3: directing pretty much every movie about a dad made within
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  Speaker 3: the last forty years. So they brought me in because
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  Speaker 3: they really wanted.
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  Speaker 5: That uh thing.
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  Speaker 3: And this is my first time that my name is
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  Speaker 3: going to be on it and I all deserve So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much. I'm overwhelmed. I'm excited. It's it's
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: Is it true the rumors I heard that you that
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  Speaker 4: you guess directed every scene that mister Incredible was in
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  Speaker 4: in The Incredibles, But none of the scenes he wasn't in.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, none of the scenes that he wasn't in. They
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  Speaker 5: locked me out of the room.
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  Speaker 3: For those they had, they would send me scripts with
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  Speaker 3: entire pages just blacked out because it was all you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're very protective and so they didn't want me finding
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  Speaker 3: out what happened to the other members of the family.
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  Speaker 3: They said, just focus on mister Incredible. Just focus on
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  Speaker 3: mister Incredible. What's he doing, what's his job, what's he
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  Speaker 3: up to? So this is really exciting to get to
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  Speaker 3: delve into, you know, not just Dan pan Well. And
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  Speaker 3: I guess this is when we could talk about the
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  Speaker 3: plot right of this. I guess we can't give too much,
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  Speaker 3: but I I it's gonna be really exciting because I
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  Speaker 3: don't think viewers have had the opportunity to meet Dan
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  Speaker 3: Pan yet.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he's been sort of a off screen figure.
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  Speaker 3: That he is finally getting his moment in the sun
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  Speaker 3: because I think I don't know about you guys, but
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  Speaker 3: every time I've watched Peter Pan, I've thought to myself,
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  Speaker 3: where is his dad, what's his daddy doing?
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  Speaker 5: What's he up to? What's his job? What is he like?
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  Speaker 5: Does he have friends? Does he have hobbies? And that's
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  Speaker 5: something that.
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  Speaker 3: Gordon and I have really got got into with the
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  Speaker 3: script and everything. Gordon, do you wanna do you want
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  Speaker 3: to tell us where you're at with that? I know
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  Speaker 3: it's only about a couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you, Tracy, thank you. Yeah, I will.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think we hit it off right away
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  Speaker 2: because both of our last names have water.
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  Speaker 5: In it, and I think that was laughed so much.
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  Speaker 2: And we were giggling about that so long. We were giggling, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it never happens and it's never happened to me.
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  Speaker 2: And immediately when it happened, I said, this is it?
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  Speaker 2: This is that Disney magic. Yeah're talking.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is that Disney magic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So this is amazing because what we're doing now with this,
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  Speaker 2: with this script is basically, there was a moment in
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  Speaker 2: the original Peter Pan where Wendy says, where are your parents?
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  Speaker 2: And he says, I don't have parents, and we are
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  Speaker 2: running with that. We are running with that to go,
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  Speaker 2: he had to have parents. He's born, he had to
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  Speaker 2: have parents who was born, because he's born, and that's
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  Speaker 2: how babies work.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's born, but he cannot grow.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm exactly. And so we wanted to jump into
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  Speaker 2: what would a dad be like in this situation where
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  Speaker 2: your kid doesn't think you exist, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: a kind of a I would say, kind of kind
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  Speaker 2: of for me, kind of a you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: a crazy thing, an absolute crazy thing kind of for me.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's been crazy. So we've just been spitballing
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  Speaker 2: like crazy and it's oh, we've been crazy. But the
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  Speaker 2: fun thing is we've kind of gotten everybody into this room.
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  Speaker 2: It's how Disney works. We've got this big kind of
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  Speaker 2: ideation table where we all sit down, and we're sitting
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  Speaker 2: down with the designers of the characters, We're sitting down,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with everybody and everywhere, even the music, and
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  Speaker 2: we're just trying to hash this puppy out and it's
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  Speaker 2: going really well.
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  Speaker 1: It Disney calls it, you know, there's the phrase dream team,
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  Speaker 1: but they actually call it the Dreamer Teamsters. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what we've created, a team, a group of dreamer teamsters.
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  Speaker 1: We're hanging out just like they shot Mary Poppins. If
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  Speaker 1: you seen Saving Mister Banks, it's just like that. We're
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  Speaker 1: sitting around in one of those old studios on the Disney.
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  Speaker 6: Lot and I'm pounding away.
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  Speaker 1: At the piano, coming with ideas and having a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun pitching things.
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  Speaker 6: We've been sitting in the room.
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  Speaker 1: And what's crazy is in the past three days we've
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  Speaker 1: gotten the entire thing out and it's been greenlit and
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  Speaker 1: it's been locked and it actually can't be changed.
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  Speaker 2: It can't be changed anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And so it's like a beautiful gun to your head.
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  Speaker 6: It is a.
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  Speaker 5: Beautiful gun to your head. And we haven't slept. We
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  Speaker 5: should just say that we have not slept.
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  Speaker 2: There's been some Yerba mates passed around. So funny.
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  Speaker 4: What's so funny is this team is like a battery
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  Speaker 4: drawer in your house right where all of us are
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  Speaker 4: kind of coming into our own in this role.
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  Speaker 5: Like Tracy, I mean, you've never fully directed a film.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm an animation designer on a live action film.
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  Speaker 5: We're all doing this and we don't know each other
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  Speaker 5: very well. But when I.
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  Speaker 3: Said, Terra Cotta, I want to I want to bring
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  Speaker 3: up why you're why it's so important that you're here.
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  Speaker 5: Explain it please, because you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, the original Peter Pan is of course animated, and
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  Speaker 3: we can't dive into the mind of an animated movie
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  Speaker 3: without having an animator here present, supervising, eating popcorn, making
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  Speaker 3: sure we're doing it right.
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  Speaker 5: That's sure, Yes, because I have.
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  Speaker 3: To ask you sometimes, you know, would an animated character
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  Speaker 3: do this? And if the answer is no, then we
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  Speaker 3: have to scrap it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh and every time Zuzzi writes a song, I'm drawing,
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's.
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  Speaker 5: Telling beautiful doodles.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, And I do believe a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 4: know this about Disney live action films, but when they're
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  Speaker 4: coming from the franchise, especially IP that's that dates back
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  Speaker 4: to old Disney, like Peter Pan, does we storyboard everything.
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  Speaker 5: Totally spill board everything.
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  Speaker 6: Your actions.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen the Disney live actions, you know, we have
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  Speaker 1: the new Little Mermaid coming out. It's it's there's an
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  Speaker 1: artistic feel to it. It feels painted right. We wanted
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  Speaker 1: to look it says it's live action, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: there's a texture to it. I just wanted to mention
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  Speaker 1: to Terra Cotta's comment that were like a battery drawer.
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  Speaker 1: If we were batteries, all three of you would be
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  Speaker 1: triple A because you're awesome, awesome, awesome. No, I really
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  Speaker 1: feel like that. No, guys, I really feel like.
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  Speaker 2: That big old D battery because you're big old delightful.
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  Speaker 2: You are big old.
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  Speaker 6: Can you say that again? Because you cut out? Can
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  Speaker 6: you say that again?
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  Speaker 5: Battery?
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  Speaker 2: Is he?
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  Speaker 5: Well say it again?
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, okay, so kind of Well, you'd be like
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  Speaker 2: a big old D battery because you're big old delightful.
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  Speaker 6: Oh it's really nice. Yeah, that's really nice.
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  Speaker 2: So we've hashed out this story and and and you
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  Speaker 2: guys might just be thinking, like, just a side note
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  Speaker 2: just to you don't get any worries, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: Dreamster teamsters. You guys might thinking, oh, those aren't union hours.
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  Speaker 2: We are actually part of the teamster union. So we
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  Speaker 2: show up when when the big trucks show up, and
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  Speaker 2: we leave when the last big truck leaves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, you never know when there's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a strike, when the DGA, when the WGA,
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  Speaker 3: when you know everybody they could be out, So we
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  Speaker 3: thought it was just safer to categorize us all as teamsters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I've never gotten a creative job
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  Speaker 1: and then been told I need a truck driver's license.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like, I.
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  Speaker 3: Did you take your test because I did it at
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  Speaker 3: Glendale and they failed me three times.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a tough place. I will say, super truck.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't mine in Azusa and it was mountainous and
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  Speaker 1: it was really scary, but I got it.
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  Speaker 3: I bet they're easier on you there because they're like,
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  Speaker 3: we know this is a challenge they.
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  Speaker 6: Are and they need truck drivers, so they're just pushing
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  Speaker 6: them through.
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  Speaker 4: I will say that was the hardest part of this
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  Speaker 4: journey so far. I mean, my hands, my hands look
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  Speaker 4: like little little towels rolled up because I work with
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  Speaker 4: my hands and I draw so much little wrinkly towels
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  Speaker 4: and putting my hands on a big truck driving wheel
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  Speaker 4: like that. It's like pencils trying to hold a circle,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: It's so I mean.
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  Speaker 5: It's striking I hold a circle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. It's that. And that's what I
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  Speaker 2: really love about Terra Cotta is she's been working in
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  Speaker 2: the business so long the carpal tunnel has ravaged her hands.
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  Speaker 3: Almost because she's not just storyboarding the movie. She's storyboarding
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  Speaker 3: things that are happening to us in the room real time.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the process that we should tell everybody. That's
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  Speaker 5: a part of our weird heart process. How did should
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  Speaker 5: we tell them? How that started? Tracy? Was that on you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, I I okay, I will fess up because
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  Speaker 3: I did ask for this, Terra Cotta, because I you know,
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  Speaker 3: we don't have the budget for some reason. This is
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  Speaker 3: very specific about where we spend their money. They've said
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  Speaker 3: no interns, no pas so, no writer's assistance either, Like
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  Speaker 3: we don't.
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  Speaker 6: Have any make sense.
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  Speaker 2: It makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: It makes sense the way mister Eiger explained it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm really coming around to the opinion.
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  Speaker 5: That it makes sense. And so we don't have notes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have anyone taking notes and so I said,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, we have we have this
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  Speaker 3: animator right here. She can use a pencil and terra cotta.
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  Speaker 2: You.
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  Speaker 3: I remember you were a little trepidacious at first because
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  Speaker 3: you said, I can't write words. I don't write words.
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  Speaker 3: I can read. I have the ability to write them.
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  Speaker 3: I refuse to write them.
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  Speaker 5: Let us letters don't have faces, is what I say.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she can.
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  Speaker 3: Only draw things with faces. All the inanimate objects have eyes.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually pretty scary.
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  Speaker 6: That's that old Disney style.
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  Speaker 1: And I will say the first time that you started
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  Speaker 1: writing it was you guys, remember that chiller font from
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  Speaker 1: the early two thousands computers. That's what That's what it
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  Speaker 1: looked like. It looked terrifying. It looked like a ransom
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  Speaker 1: note was being written.
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  Speaker 2: That's why early I said, it felt like you brought
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  Speaker 2: hair bart his hair into every bit of your work,
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  Speaker 2: because you're writing feels like a just a big strand
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  Speaker 2: of hair.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say, as exhausted and pain my hands are. I
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  Speaker 4: am so happy we made that choice for our artistic vision,
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  Speaker 4: because remember when we were talking about the.
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  Speaker 5: Beginning of Dan and what he looked like.
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  Speaker 4: I was drawing all your different ideas and we would
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  Speaker 4: go fast in one direction and then someone would go, wait, wait, wait,
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  Speaker 4: what about the.
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  Speaker 5: Mustache on James. Let's go back, and then we would pivot.
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  Speaker 2: And then we had a mustache on James. And I know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: for you guys no context at all of what mustache
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: on James means, but it was fifteen mustash on James.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get into it. I know you guys
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: tuned in for one thing, and what they only need
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to learn what you could about Dan Pan.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: The secrets, and we're going to give them all to you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to give them to We don't want to
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: tell you too much, but we will tell you the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: overarching plot and maybe a lot of the themes if
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: you guys are into that. So basically, Dan Pan is
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a guy who is a little lost in life and
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: maybe he grew up too quickly. His life is filled
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: with business work and fatigue. He lives during seventeen hundreds England,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and so we made that choice. And this is a
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: big thing, and this was a big thing we had
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: to talk about because seventeen hundreds England is not a
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: thing any of us know about really well.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: And we really have not had time to look it up.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: No, it's been seventy two hours. It's been seventy two hours.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: But the original Peter Pan came out, and he's supposed
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to be a kid from nineteen oh four. He's been
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: thirteen for we don't know how long yet. And after
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: watching the animated and some of the remakes, I just
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: felt like he was a kid born in the seventeen hundreds.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: There was something so you know, regal about him. There
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: was some things so specific about him, you know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And he has such he has such a high voice,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: you know, the kind of high voice that they only
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: had in the seventeen hundreds. And I know that based
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: on an opinion that I have When I look at
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: those drawings of people, I just imagine them with really high.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Squeaky voice.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: And this is an important thing because I didn't have
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that opinion. But then Tracy said it, and then Terra
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Cotta drew it, and then I understood, and I really
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: came around to that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I came to that opinion as well, exactly me too.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I really understood it. And then I started trying to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: incorporate what I would imagine seventeen hundreds England music into
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you know, so I got a harpsichord. We had a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: harpsichord around laying around. We have every there's an instrument
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: room that's really goofy looking. Not not the guy, not
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the dog.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: No, not the dog. The room doesn't look like goofy.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: The room doesn't look like goofy. But it's like kind
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of silly because there's so many instruments and all. But
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: we got a harpsichord. We started working and it was
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: really fun, you know, from what I know about this
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds from a quick glance. You know, of course,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: there was some some some problems going on with America
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: leaving England.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: So huge, and that plays into Dan that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan is staunchly against the American Revolution in English.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: So it doesn't really affect him that much.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: It doesn't affect him.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: He's just he doesn't.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Want them to go.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: There's a big long seat. He's really ticked off by it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: This is something that really ticks.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Dan pan off.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: And so we see we have this whole arc where
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: he is walking around a seventeenth century coffee shop and
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: he is just muttering to himself, God, this sucks.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: God, I hate this.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, God, Yanks, I can't believe that they would try
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and separate, that he seems irritating.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: They shouldn't leave, they shouldn't leave.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: That's where the song God this sucks come in. God
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: this sucks. God, I hate this. Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: And I think when we go back.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: To the beginnings of who Dan is and what it
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: is to never be young and to be born into
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: this world old, right, I think that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Because that's the curse of the family.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Because Peter Pan was cursed with a curse that made
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: him young forever. Dan Pan was cursed with a curse
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: that made him older, middle aged forever.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: And it makes you question if Peter has.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: The curse or is choosing to be different than his
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: father exactly.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: It also, yeah, it's beautiful. It establishes also that Peter
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: is over a thousand years old, which we got really excited.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: And that was something that Bob just put put really clearly.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Does it does it for a thousand years because well
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: maybe one hundred, and it's only one hundred, well two hundred,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds to the you know, Bob said, if he
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was born in the seventeen hundreds, he would be a
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: thousand years old. And I've been really coming around to that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I came around when I've been really coming around to
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: that appear.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Bob.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: We said, yeah, I wanted to put the whole thing
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties. I was really interested in more
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: of like doing the mid century modern type of thing
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: with Dan Pan and kind of going with this whole
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: kind of what a man was at that time, you know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And Bob Iger said, absolutely not, that's the wrong movie,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and I hate it. I want Peter Pan to be
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a thousand years old and I want Dan Pan to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: be born in the seventeen hundreds. And after he said that, yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I pushed back by going, okay, and that was coming around. Yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it was a terse Okay, it was kind of like, okay,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: it was, but I didn't I said that in my head.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I said that one in my head.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: It was felt in the room, and I saw Bob
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Biger get visible chills, like a like a gust of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: wind hit.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: It in the hand.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Because no one's ever stood up to him like that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one person in their head.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Ever set up to him like that in their head.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And I really recommend I read that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And I think he could tell you so, because you.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Could tell in everyone's head they're never going against him
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: in their head.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Well, he's just so magnanimous and so amazing. And I,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I've never once since gone against him in
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: my head, and never went before had I gone against
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: him in my head. So let's keep going through this plot.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: So we meet Dan. He is working a what they
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: did in the seventeen hundred, they didn't have nine to
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: five's per se, so he was up at the break
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of dawn and going to work until very late at night.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And he was an accountant for one of the regal
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: heirs of the time, a local businessman who controlled a
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: lot of the land. And Dan, even though a lord. Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: even though Dan we say he's twenty four, he feels sixty.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: He feels sixty so bad. And I would I could
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: so for me, that was that was just a crazy thing.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And I kind of that was crazy. For me. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: thought that was so crazy that we could, you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: we could do you know, we could have something like that.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy, and it would be just this
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: crazy thing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And I will say reading the script, it does feel
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: crazy as well, because there are lots of numbers scattered
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: throughout the script that if you sort of dig into them,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: they don't really add up, right, right, And so it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: all about.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Masking it with magic. Right.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: We have a saying at Disney that they sent us
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: T shirts and say this rub a little magic on it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that fixes.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Pretty much any plot issues that we run into.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: That's what we're doing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: We're taking an old man's wrinkly face and we're rubbing
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: a little magic on it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And speaking of magic, right, that's where his wife comes in,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Jan Pan and Jan it's you know, we meet her
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: from the beginning and she's seen as crazy. She's hysterical, right,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: She's constantly talking about a land where boys can be
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: young forever, sterical woman, talking about pirates, she's talking about
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Native Americans, she's talking about realm.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Just bat shit stuff, just.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Bat shit stuff. And I don't want to spoil it
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: right now, but you know, for the end, that's why
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: we decided. You know, Dan and his wife kind of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: become at odds with each other, and she's pregnant and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: she something crazy happens. He doesn't believe her, and she
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: turns into Neverland and the first boy in Neverland is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Peter because she's pregnant with Peter, and so she she
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: becomes she explodes and becomes Neverland and.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: I love it. She was pitched in the room.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: It was such an incredible moment because it made all
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: of us go wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait wait what.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I think it was like four thirty am and Gordon said,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: what if this woman becomes a land?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And we went I said it. I don't like taking credits,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: but I will say that down.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I would sleep it into one of the songs that
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Zuzzy wrote because it sort of had this moment after
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: she explodes, we go wait, wait what wait what put.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: The coffee down?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Wait what? Wait? What?
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: What?
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Wait?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I accidentally I did start writing kind of like what
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: was happening in the room, and so we had to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: tweak it. But the original one was like, wait what
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: put the coffee down? Gordon terra Cotta, did you get this?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of that, and we realized
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: in the morning that we were actually we were too mad.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: We have to change.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Affecting everybody because I'm also taking notes and drawing. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: think you guys are also now starting to write and
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: take notes, so we're in a weird way directing the
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: present wall also making a woman become a land as she.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Has birth, and this was sort of like a Oiji
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: board situation or what's that thing where you put a
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: where everyone puts their hands together at a sleepover and
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: it moves around the book.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: That's a board.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and no.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: One can tell if we're making the choices or the
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: magic force is sort of having us do it for.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Us, and I like to think it's actually Dan writing
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: his own story for me. It's Dan.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I love that I love. And that reminds me of
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: that thing that kids do when they're calling to another
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: figure and the figure tells them what to do basically with.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Letters oigi word.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, so that that is exactly Dan is our
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: ouigi mm hmm.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: I do feel like he's talking to us.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I do like when in the brief moments of sleep
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: that I've had over the past three days, when I
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: doze off, I do see him in my dreams, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I can tell it's him because he says his classic catchphrase,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: which is.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: God so ticked off. I'm so ticked off.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He's he's a grumpy man. He's a grumpy, grumpy man.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And we're not trying to copy Carl from up so
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: we made him more grumpy.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: And more square.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's like it's hard for do to a human being
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: because because it's like, actually, I will say, Tera Cotta
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: has run with the animation of his and it is square.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: So thanks, we're going to do to James Marsden. Space
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: are crazy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And so this is a big reveal. We have asked.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He has not answered, but we have asked James Marsden,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Dan Pan And that was the mustache debate was when
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: in the script should James shave his mustache?
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean more of a production logistical question, and.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: It took hours to figure out.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It took I can't believe that took up so much
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of our creative brainstorming time.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: It was really surprising to me.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Ultimately not our problem that ultimately has nothing to do
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: with us. That's an entirely different department.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Way later, right, we're not we haven't even set the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Weird and you would think.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: We would, we would be worried about how how jan
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: could become never Land, but that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: We're not getting in the weeds of no, because that's
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: the magic.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: But that's and that's what I'll say, is the beauty
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: of a creative prostess. The Dreamster's teamsters working together because
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: after five and a half hours of yelling at each
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: other about when James Marsden should shave his mustache, all
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, it just hit me like a bag
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: of bricks over my head. I say, shut the fuck up.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: What if jan becomes explosive, becomes Neverland? And on her
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: dying wish, she says, when my son is thirteen, he
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: will not age anymore.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: And after yelling.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: About a mustache for five and a half hours, I'll
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: tell you what, anything sounds like a good idea.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Any And in a weird way, it's like a beautiful
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: gun pointed at your head.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: It was so and I don't want to rehash the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: argument again. But he doesn't currently have a mustache, so
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know why.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Let's not bring it up, and let's not bring it up.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: But I was pushing for April eighteen, and just nobody
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: could get behind it. And that's why I was just
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: kind of stuck on April eighteenth. I just thought it
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: would be a good date.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And he was the way that number sounded. I didn't
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: like the way that number sounded. And I don't remember
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: how we got to the mustache.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: I think it had.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying April eighteenth would give him enough time.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: It would be a full year for him to grow
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: a mustache number eight, so then he could change shave it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I don't like the number eighth.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Fuck up, I don't like the n I'm just saying
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: April eighteenth he would have time to grow a full
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: mustache and then he'd be able to shave it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: It makes me so tired when we talk about the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: timeline of that, maybe because I haven't slept in four days,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: but when you bring up the timeline of when to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: do this, and when you say April the date of it,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I don't even want to say it. It makes me so sick.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: It makes vomit come out of my nose, That's how sick.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It makes me.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: So ever be able to do in April again, I
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: don't think I'll ever be able to do the money.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: I think I'm just going to take thirty sleeping pills
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: in a row.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: You guys again, I love all of you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I really don't think this is our problem, and if
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's a problem, on the day we can discuss it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: I really I think we.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: All agree, which is why this argument was so vexing
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: to me. How we got into it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You guys. It's just like when you guys talk about it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: You guys just sound like when you scroll down in
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: your home phone on an iPhone and you're just kind
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: of all those things are there.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: What do you mean widgets?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: What are you a widget board?
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Widget board.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: So when we talk about it feels like your widget board.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: It feels like I'm screaming at my phone to tell
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it's okay, Gordon, you're being silly.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, I want to talk about Jan Pam again.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Let's shop Pam.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Well, that is a twist, right, she gets?
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: And should we say.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Should that we've asked, let's officially announce you have asked
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Gloria Estevan to play Jan Jam.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: She is amazing. We've tapped her. We have not gotten
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a response back. She's a little confused, but we are
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: so excited to sit down with Gloria and working tapped her.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: We did send on someone physically because we meant it
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: to tap her on the shoulder and say, Gloria is
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: what about this ails?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And it's so exciting because she is a woman with
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: such grace, and she is so powerful and wonderful.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: And no one's ever seen her play crazy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: No, No glow needs to play crazy.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Are you excited to write songs for a crazy woman?
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: I can't wait. And I'm writing for Gloria too.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Let's just say there's going to be a little South
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of the Border influence.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna love seeing the South of the influence combined
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: with seventeen hundreds England.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hysteric woman. When I found out we were uh.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Me approaching Gloria, I got my jam box out and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I listened to Conga by Gloria Stefan for four hours
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: straight and it made me crazy. That song is crazy
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and that song is crazy making and I really feel
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like I was in the head. I said, no, yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I can see where Neverland comes from. If this is
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the vibe, you know what I mean, this is what's
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: going on in se.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And that was really tough because for we were all
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: still in the room. We're not allowed necessarily to leave
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the room because they are very scared about NDAs. So
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Zussy was sitting in the corner with his headphones, just
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: kind of touching and going there.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: With headphones connected to my Bluetooth speaker, and I just
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: was going.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: At it, and you were sort of mirroring what Jampan
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: goes through in the movie where she drives herself so insane,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: so so so insane. Did we watch her rapid mental
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: decline and she's about to send herself to the asylum.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: When she makes that decision to become.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: A land she chooses, it's of her own choice, obviously,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and choice.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: She makes as a pan not a Pam.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Exactly when she was married on her wedding night.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: And Terra Cotta, I also wanted to thank you because
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I was in such a fugue state. I don't remember
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that period of time. I just remember what came out
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of it, and see what came out of it. All
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the drawings you made of me is it was going.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I'll cherish those forever, hundreds and hundreds of drawings, because
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: it's the only record we have of it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: It's the only record we have of the sound. And
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad we have the sound of you listening
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: to another song as a composer. I think it's so
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: important that someone is documenting.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: You doing the research.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And we have drawings and drawings on drawings of a
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: little boy in a corner with his Bluetooth speaker and
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: his Bluetooth headphones.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: And For me, it felt like it was beautiful because
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: in that moment I saw Peter for the first time.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we talk about that now. Yeah, Peter,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: who's who's not in this movie.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: But the influence that Peter has over this movie.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it would be really hard to make
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: this movie without the original Peter Pan.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Totally presidence.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And we like to do little knots here and there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Guess what color Dan Pan's shoes are green?
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: Green?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And guess what color his hat is green? And guess
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: what he wears the whole time. He wears a green
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and little leotard for the whole movie.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And one of the first scenes is dan is working
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: really hard at his desk and he hears a little
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: boy with a stick kind of knocking things around outside
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in the alley, and he opens the window and he screams,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: are you lost boy, which is of course a reference
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to the Lost Yes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted to try to combine the impact and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the devastation and the heaviness and the craziness of inception
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: combined with a movie like Muppets Treasure Island.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: You wanted to make sure that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: We reference every character by name in some way, even
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: if they aren't. In the film, there's a point where
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Dan Pan is walking by the local town mechanic and.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: He's he's face, which is a vital role in some
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Dean hundreds the mechanic.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, but he's fixing the thing. You're right, go there, Tracy, this.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Is another Bob Iger request.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Really it makes sense when you think about.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: It, and it really I'm coming around to it making sense.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: And he was sort of fixing the church tower, and
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: we have Dan Pan running up to this mechanic going,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: why are you tickering.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: With that bell? You lost boy?
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: And that that scene happens right after jan is in
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: the bathroom and she says, I have to take a tinkle.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Yes, and then when she pisses, we see a little
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: bit of fairy dust in the back, just a little bit.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: We do we do because we show the pisshow it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: his family.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: There's something special and it's in the piss and it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: in the blood.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And that's very exciting because I guess Tracy, you already
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you let us know you're gonna have Darren Aronofsky come
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: on for that shot.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, specific shot, because that's that shot. I'll tell you
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: when it fell out of my depth. I did not
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: think that I could handle it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: There's no dad stuff there, no, no, no, no no.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I think when mister Eiger, you know, told us that
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: this is where he wanted us to go with it,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I I tried to take it on and I was
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: mapping it out of my head and I just got
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: too freaked out. So, you know, I put in a
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: call to the guy who the guy who knows what he's.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Doing with that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gritty, It's gonna be a gritty single moment of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the movie. And I'm really excited about it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Suzzy, are you allowed to talk about some of the
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: collabs you're doing with some of the music, because I
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: know we have a little bit of a Megan Trainer
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: maybe coming into the office.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, let's talk a little bit about it. There
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: are some people that are coming in. We're treating this
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit like the SpongeBob musical and that we're
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: having a bunch of different artists create and I you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I referenced Spongebog Musical because I worked on that. I
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: worked on the front of house for that musical for
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: about three months. He just worked the box office in Okay,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and so I learned a lot from watching it and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: it was really great. And and every in that musical,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: every song is written by different artists, so we're having
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: different collabse come in and Megan Traynor is going to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: come in. She's writing a song about it's it's actually
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Jan Pam's boss who's telling her to get a little
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: more work done and to be a little less crazy.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And the song is called be a little Less Crazy.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Who's a red coat? She's a red coat, her.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Boss's so her boss is and this is progressive hashtag
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: work w E r K. A female British soldier, British
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: red coat who's who's being forced the British government is
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: forcing them to house the soldier and the soldier ends
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: up becoming her boss.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: And it's and I don't.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Want to say too much, but there may be a
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: spin off, spin off movie.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And let me say, it's so refreshing to have
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: two women have a scene where they just talk to
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: each other and they don't talk about men once.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: No, exactly, it's so nice. Yeah, it passes.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: They just talk about how crazy.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: She is, which is yeah, and that passes the test. Yes,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: that technically passes the test.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: And I checked, and it feels kind of weird that
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the only time they're talking to each other is to
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: call one of them crazy.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: But technically.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: A dog can't play baseball.
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: Didn't say anything about that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Deal, Okay, So I will say I love the idea
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that you're bringing in so many different artists.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: Let's talk about that.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You've been helping us. You've been helping us so much
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: with the ideation thing, but none of your music will
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: actually be in the movie at all, because you've got
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: all these other artists writing.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm collab, It's it's and you know, it's Meghan
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Trainer and it's omar On and you know, we got.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Wet and we were talking about let's talk.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I can actually unveil the list right now. It's really exciting.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Megan tin O, Marion, Miguel, Greta van Fleet. No, yeah,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Greta van Fleet. They're writing the big number for us.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Uh for the Dan Pan flashback scene when he was
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a boy and he had a bunch of brothers and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: they they got wild in the woods in London.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And I heard I heard a rumor and we got
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: crazy town. Who's sang You're My Butterfly? To do the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: theme song.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: The ballad yeah, yeah, or the theme song ballad.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: The theme song ballad, the theme song ballad, Yeah, We're
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: starting with a sad song.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Did theaal say yes?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: The National said yes? No, The National said yes, which
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: is really exciting. We got who else is involved, Sophie Tucker,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the the the House Electronica group, It's gonna be We
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: got guys. I actually just got a text. We got
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Duck Sauce, which is yeah, from Barbara streisand they've already
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: sent me a little clip of it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: You want to hear it? Yeah, Dan Pan, They's so good.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: It really cuts to the heart of what this movie's about.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: And I will say, it's so great that we've been
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: able to star stud this the music of this film,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: because I know that Disney originally asked Alan Menkin and
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: he told them, in his words, fuck off, so that
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: we were able to rebound.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Like this totally. In his words, however, he says.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: That, however, he says that he might say it in
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: a different way, but the essence of it was not
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to be crass, but fuck.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: Off, fuck off. Yeah.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I think I'm not sure if we've if we've really
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: painted a picture. I guess The question that was on
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: our minds throughout the writing process, and the question that
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I think is on a lot of viewers' minds is
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: what exactly does Dan Pan do in this because it
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: kind of seems like and there's a short answer and
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: a long answer, right, the short answer is not much, okay,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: But the long answer is he's living an entire life.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: We see this entire man's life, you know, middle aged
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: to of course middle age, because he's stuck like that.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: But you see him sort of go through all these stages,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: walking around getting ticked off at the coffee shop, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: he's getting ticked off about different things as he ages,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you know, because at first he's getting ticked off about
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: about you know, the the American Revolution, stuff that might
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: affect like a young man, a college student, a revolutionary thinker.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Then he starts to get ticked off about Walker's canes.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Then he starts to get ticked.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Off about regret ultimately, which is something that happens at
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: the end of their life, which is something he will
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: never be able to have.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: So it's really.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I'm curious as to where, how, how how do you
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: guys think we should sell this?
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Well, what about this? To you, guys, because I have
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: an answer. What about this? To you, guys sounds like
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: a movie people want to watch?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And I have an answer to and I would love
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to hear it from you guys.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: First I have an answer. But taking the temp here,
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: what are you guys thinking?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Well, here's so your question gives me a question, right,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: which is like if I'm like, oh, so, what makes
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: people want to watch this? And then I think why
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: would I want to watch?
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: And then do you have an answer?
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: You guys have an answer for that?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I got Well, I'm thinking.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, my answer is sort of a it's sort
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: of a ponderance of the idea of why would anyone want.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: To watch this?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And that's another question on top of their question.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: And I think as a storyteller, you have to always
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: ask yourself why, and you should always. I think, even
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: if you don't know the immediate answer, we know why
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: because we because we are interested? We're interested?
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: Right, yeah? Yeah?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And I think the big question right beyond why would
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I want to watch this? Why would you want to
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: watch this? Why would any of us want to see this?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I think the larger question that answers that question is
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: what else do I have?
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: To do.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: And I think that might be I think that to
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: me might might be it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that really helps narrow it down.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Because we're just saying Also, just on top of that,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: that makes me think of the question what else do
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I need to do? But also what else do I
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: want to do? What other options are there for me
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: in this world? In a way you know, like like
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I just feel I feel like good. I feel good
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I also think there's a whole part of this that
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: when we're talking about this, it makes me think that
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: what will happen to me if I don't do this?
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Will he will he come for me? And will I
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: come around to his opinion of him wanting me dead
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: if I don't do it right?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: And I think, and I think to answer all of
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: these I'm gonna say this, It's got a lot of heart,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: It's got a lot of soul. It's got a lot
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: of fun. It's got a lot of rigamarole and FUNO
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: every scene.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite song in the moviemole.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Oh it's rigamarole the Brits are coming or whatever.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: I love that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And and something I grabbed onto, which is a quote
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: from Peter Pan which I thought was so app for
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: this movie is dreams do come true if only we
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: wish hard enough. You can have anything in your life
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: if you will sacrifice everything else for it. Yes.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: And you know what makes me a little bit interested
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: in our MOVI movie is that is the logline more
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: toying with which is a coming of age story with
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: no age.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love that coming of middle age, coming of
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: middle age.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes it inspires I think a feeling in
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: viewers of oh what is that?
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's enough for me at this point.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels good for me. Yeah, and then that
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: does it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I also and I think one of the other reasons
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: is we forgot to talk about the big the funny sidekick.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is what I wanted to be up earlier.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Every main Disney character needs a funny sidekick, So yeah,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you take it away, Suzy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: So well, and yeah, this was my idea and I'm
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: really proud of this. It's it's uh. Dan Pan's sidekick
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: is his employee, Bob Cratchett, played by uh, none other
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: than the magnanimous uh Eric stone Street. And he's just
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the biggest fucking idiot he needs so dumb.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: If you're sitting there wondering if it's that Bob Crotchet.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: The answer is yes, I can't be a Christmas Carol
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: basically in our world.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: In our world, Bob cratchit before he gets his job
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: with Scrooge.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Well, you had to build his resume before.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Working for Scrooge, and and and Bob Wager loves. He said,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: we need a crossover in some way. There has to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: be across trying.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: To make the the the creative universe of all I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: p that's not already tied together. So the idea is
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: to tie in a Christmas story to Peter Pan, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: then to tie in all the Disney IP like all
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the Disney Channel original movies. Uh, the time stoppers.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: But I love that he wants to start with the
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: old Men first.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how he's doing it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: I will say this right there.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I know Will he's starting with the Old Man,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: he's starting with Dickens, and he's starting with Peter Pan.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: But then, speaking of the d coms, we should mention this. Uh,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: there is a a friend of Dan's that says, I'm
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: getting on a ship to America and my dream is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to one day go from you know, water to snow.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And his name is Jonathan Tsunami and he's a great
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: great great great grandfather of Johnny Tsunami.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Which is just I When Bob Iger pitched that, my
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: first reaction was, I'm gonna get on board with this.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: This was a long by the way, it was a
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: long zoom with Bob. He had a lot of ideas.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: It's a lot more than I think I was expecting.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Really funny to see what he focuses on too, and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: what he's interested in doing. You know, like we didn't
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: talk about budget, we didn't talk about locations or deadlines
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: or anything.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: We talked a lot about Easter.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: It doesn't care. He's just about the art.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: He's just about the art.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And the way you should have seen him on this zoom,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: he was sat in a big arm chair smoking a
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: big cigar in front of a fireplace, and his back
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: was sort of turned to us like this, and he
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: was talking to us over the shoulder, and sometimes he
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even look at us. He just had someone else
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: holding the camera shooting him in like a very dramatic way.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: And you know when sed One says someone something in
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: that opinion.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: You listen to him.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And also you know we had to take
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: breaks because he'd bring people in to fire him and
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: send them out right.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: But it was it was really, I mean.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: It's just like he's just an idea machine and that's
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: why it's a dreamster cheamster dream to be a part
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: I mean some of the other things he was, it's
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: a dreamstir wish your heart makes you know what I mean.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, like a crazy pitch that he had which
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I loved, was he said, I want there to be
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: a man who's giving coffee to Dan Pan who says
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I'm a vampire and in a couple hundred years I'm
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: going to go on a date with a mom And
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: that's of course a tie to the Disney Chill original
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: movie My Mom's Got a date with a Van Empire.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: And I thought when he said that this is gold,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I got I've got to get on board with this soon. Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: He really insisted on this character Eddie, who makes a
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: cameo and he is seeing cooking a big on a spitfire.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Of course is the Disney Channel original movie Eddie's.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Big cook On.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: That was a tie in that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: We don't try to do here. His content soup away, Yes,
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: content soup yes.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: I love when Dan's down on his luck because he
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: doesn't want America to leave. And he's walking down the
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: streets of London and there's a little group singing with
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: the hat for tips and if you look close enough
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: you'll see the Cheetah Girls.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: That's a Cheetah Girls. We got him back.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: I do want to mention.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I also just want to really just some shout outs
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: for the Eddies million Dollar Cookoff shout out. We did
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: actually end up getting h Taylor Ball, the original Eddie.
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  Speaker 2: Original Eddie, we found him back.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: And for the vampire, we didn't did end up getting
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Charles Shaughnasy, the original vampire from My Date, and then
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: we did get Adrian Bylon for just her. And then
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: we have a couple of mannequins dressed like Raven.
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  Speaker 5: Just yeah, it's c G I and her and I.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Don't want to spoil much more, but there's this beautiful,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: powerful scene right after jan Pan explodes into Neverland. Uh,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Bob Cratchit comes up to Dan Pan and Dan Pan's
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: crying and he's going, where'd she go? Where'd she go?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: And Bob Cratchit turns him and goes, sorry, kid, that's Halloween.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Town too, and I thought that was really great because
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you both tie in a Chinatown reference and a Halloween
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  Speaker 2: town to reference. I thought, you know, this is this
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  Speaker 2: is a brainiac showing us as muscles.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so glad that I'm finally getting around to understanding
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  Speaker 4: the opinion to.
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  Speaker 6: Do all this totally, totally.
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  Speaker 5: It's a real.
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  Speaker 3: Joy once you come around to the opinion that this
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  Speaker 3: is a good ideas. It's exhilarating because you know, people
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  Speaker 3: think that you have your opinions and these are your
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: opinions and they're fixable, but they're not.
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  Speaker 5: You can change your opinion. You can change it just.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: You like don't Dampan does about the American Revolution. He
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: comes around to it, and he finally understands just by
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: seeing his wife explode into a land. He finally understands
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: the pursuit of American freedom.
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  Speaker 3: And this is because I do think we have to
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: wrap up soon, but I want to talk because Gordon,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: you wove together such a masterful script.
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  Speaker 5: And I would just love to if we could all
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: go around.
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  Speaker 3: And just say one line that was their favorite line
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: for the movie, because.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Mine was you was from.
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  Speaker 3: That scene in the end when he's coming around to
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: the American Revolution and he looks off into the sunset
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: and he says, those Yanks ain't half bad, and he's southern.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: He's sudden and he's suddenly sound.
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  Speaker 5: That choice, when I.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Came around, that was, I mean, that was a huge
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: choice for me. To put parenthetical southern accent was a
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: huge choice in I would hit thank you genius. Thanks guys.
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  Speaker 6: I love that line.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say, probably probably one of my favorite
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: lines is in the beginning and.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: Uh uh he's he's he's asking a little boy, hey,
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: what time of day is it?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: And uh the kid says he looks at the sun.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: He goes, well, it looks like to be about three o'clock.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: And he goes, wow, you're a real genius. Of course
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: it reference to the Disney Channel original movie Real Genius.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm really glad I got that in there. I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: just love that line, and I think it's I think
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: it's gonna get a pause in the room.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: Well real, yeah, even without the reference, I should mention too,
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is the new Disney script.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: The script is twice as long because we have to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: add an actual whole parenthetical applause, applause pause, Well because
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: it's not a break because we can't assume that. But
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: we have to leave the applause pauses because.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: We like to call it a pause.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: A pause, yeah, pause.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: For a pause.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: I think my favorite line in a moment in the
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: whole script that is all you Gordon. I just absolutely
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: love it. A motocross crosses the script crosses the street,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: and and yes, and and Dan is so pissed, and
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: he goes, hey, grow up, and the guy on the
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: motocross goes, I already am. And believe it or not,
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: that's the motocross driver from Disney Channel original movie Motocross.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: And next to is all the grown ups from the
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Grown Ups movie. That's and Wild Hogs. We tied it
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: all in right there. We got it all in the IP.
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: That's twentieth IP. So it counts.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: It counts now. Thank you guys so much. I will
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: say one of my favorite moments is just right at
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: the beginning, the first couple of lines of this movie
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: kind of get me. It's It's it's Dan Pan sitting
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: out on a balcony in his home and he says,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: just always be waiting for me, a quote from the
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: original Peter Pan. And then he looks right into camera
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: and goes, you're probably wondering how I got here. You've
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: heard of my kid, but have you heard of me?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Boom boom. Then O Marion comes in with the most
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: silky voice I've ever heard.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: O Marion harpsichord that quotes say no more.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And then also, you know, I, I think we have
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of taglines that are going to be slapped
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: on the poster, but one of my newest ones that
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I love is you can't spell never Land without.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Dan and yeah technically Yeah, I love that.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I think that's technically either we throw technically or if
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: you rearrange it. I think that's I also love I.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: Love the alt version of it. You can't spell never
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: Land without never.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: That's good, Yeah, yes, yeah, sure that's also what could work.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: You can't spell never Land without land, just saying that too,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: you can't.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: I was tossing around in the wee hours, was you
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: can't spell never Land without Eva?
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, is the name of my neighbor.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: She's so nice. She's been putting up with us.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: She's so nice, and and she's gonna let us use
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: her pool, and she gave.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: Us those rice crispies. But she made them with fruity pebbles.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was wild.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: And ask me where she gets this stuff. Don't ask
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: me where she gets this stuff because.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And that for me and never see that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: This team is on fire.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: I love this team. I'm looking for roommates. By the way,
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: if you go.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: To no thank you, no thank you.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: No thank you, yeah, no thank you. But I do
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: appreciate it.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate. Just to summarize, go see uh d
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: pan dad pan dad, which we never talked about that
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: it's called pan dad.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Well we did because we talked about how it rhymes.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe then it's it's you can't spell neverland
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: without pan dad. See I think true.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm coming around to the idea of there being
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: a pe in Neverland, like you just said.
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: Never lamped, Yes, never never planned, never.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Plan never land because never planned.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: Ter cotta draw that.
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: Draw never was neverland was never planned? Is so legitimately good.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: I'm drawing a huge condom on Dan. Okay, okay, because
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: it wasn't planned.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: However he wasn't remember it. However you remember it, whatever
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: your process is. I respect that.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: That is so funny. I want to change the whole movie.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: He didn't know he was going to have a kid.
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: We have to get back We have to get back
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: on with Bob.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: If we don't get back in that room, our ankle
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: bracelets are going to start going off.
• 57:22
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• 57:24
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