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The Late Debate | 3 September · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: General, welcome the late debase.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Doorra
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Speaker 2: and Caleb Bond.
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Speaker 3: Coming up.
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Speaker 2: Fake Lamborghinis being sold on Facebook.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 2: A little later, although I've got to say, Caleb and Liz,
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Speaker 2: if you're looking on Facebook to buy a Lamborghinni, you
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Speaker 2: can't afford Lamberginning. Plus, when we look at the papers,
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Speaker 2: Sydney councils taking two hundred days or more to approve
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Speaker 2: building developments, that's in the middle of a housing crisis,
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Speaker 2: and labor being pushed to include dental in medicare.
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Speaker 3: We'll get all of that when we look at the papers.
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Speaker 2: But first, British car manufacturers are rationing the sale of
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Speaker 2: petrol vehicles in order to avoid massive fines for missing
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Speaker 2: government imposed mandates for quotas on electric cars. Now, the
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Speaker 2: British government has mandated twenty two percent of all new
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Speaker 2: car sales have to be electric vehicles, and that percentage
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Speaker 2: ramps up every year until in twenty thirty it has
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Speaker 2: to be eighty percent of new cars electric. And they're
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Speaker 2: threatening manufacturers with fifteen thousand pound fines. It's about thirty
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Speaker 2: thousand Australian dollars for every petrol vehicle sold outside the quota.
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Speaker 2: The problem is not enough people want to buy electric vehicles.
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Speaker 2: So have a listen to this admission by Robert Forrester.
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Speaker 2: He's the chief executive of Virtue Motors.
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Speaker 3: In the UK.
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Speaker 2: He told journalists in some franchises there's now a restriction
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Speaker 2: on supply of electric cars, sorry of petrol cars and
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Speaker 2: hybrid cars, which is actually where the demand is. It's
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Speaker 2: almost as if we can't supply the cars people want,
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Speaker 2: but we've got plenty of the cars that maybe they
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Speaker 2: don't want. The manufacturers are trying to avoid the fines,
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Speaker 2: so they're constraining the ability for us to supply petrol
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Speaker 2: cars in order to try and keep to the government targets. Now,
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Speaker 2: he went on to explain that if you walked into
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Speaker 2: many car dealers to day and said, hey, I've got
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Speaker 2: the cash, I want to buy a car, they would
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Speaker 2: not deliver that car to you until February next year,
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Speaker 2: not because the car is not ready, it's just that
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Speaker 2: manufacturers are holding them back because they want to make
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Speaker 2: sure they meet the quotas for electric vehicles and avoid fines.
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Speaker 2: He goes on to explain the consequences of this. He said,
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Speaker 2: what the government's actually doing is constraining the new car market,
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Speaker 2: which has a big impact on that receipts, that's tax income,
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Speaker 2: and creates a business environment in the UK where manufacturers
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Speaker 2: may question whether they want to make cars here at all. Well, Caleb,
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Speaker 2: if only we had some sort of warning that, you know,
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Speaker 2: Soviet style command economies.
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Speaker 3: I hang on a second.
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Speaker 2: There was a Soviet Union where they tried this very
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Speaker 2: thing and it failed. And what do they say, Those
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Speaker 2: that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Speaker 2: And this is happening right across the Western world.
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Speaker 4: Indeed, and that the definition of stupidity is doing the
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Speaker 4: same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Speaker 4: It's a good day to be used car salesman, isn't.
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Speaker 2: It, Because what rices will go exactly.
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Speaker 4: What this will do is inflate the used car market
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Speaker 4: because if you can't buy a new car that you want, well,
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Speaker 4: your only other option is to go and buy a
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Speaker 4: used car. And let's be honest, this is coming to
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Speaker 4: a car dealership near you because the Albanesi government has
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Speaker 4: its own targets for vehicles being sold in this country
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Speaker 4: that are about to come into effect, and it's slightly
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Speaker 4: different in that they're not going to find companies for
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Speaker 4: selling too many petrol cars or not enough electric cars.
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Speaker 4: But they have an overall tax system basically where you know,
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Speaker 4: if they sell too many cars that put out too
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Speaker 4: many emissions, then they have to pay a tax, and
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Speaker 4: of course that tax then gets.
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Speaker 1: Passed on to the consumer. But don't worry.
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Speaker 4: Don't remember when all of this was touted and we
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Speaker 4: were told by the government that was going to happen,
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Speaker 4: Chris Bowen cassanover Bowen told us nothing to worry about.
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Speaker 1: There will be no restriction on cars whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Companies can continue to import any particular model they wish.
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Speaker 1: No model will be mandatory, no model will be banned.
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Speaker 4: Sure, no model will be mandatory or banned by law.
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Speaker 4: But the effect of the rules is that if the
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Speaker 4: manufacturer wants to be able to sell cars at a
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Speaker 4: reasonable price to consumers, they have to think about the
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Speaker 4: sorts of cars that they are selling. And what we
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Speaker 4: have seen and I imagine it's exactly the same in
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Speaker 4: the UK, is that the market for hybrid vehicles has
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Speaker 4: gone through the roof. Consumers are not of verse are
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Speaker 4: not averse to buying vehicles that are better for the
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Speaker 4: environment and ultimately better for their hip pockets because if
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Speaker 4: you're driving a hybrid vehicle, you spend far less on
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Speaker 4: fuel because you're using half battery half fuel. Essentially, it's
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Speaker 4: good as a driver, it's good for the environment. That
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Speaker 4: is what the market has decided people want to buy.
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Speaker 4: But the federal government here, just as the government in
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Speaker 4: the UK, s is no, you must buy electric vehgles,
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Speaker 4: except even though they're trying to force people to buy
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Speaker 4: electric bigles, still not buying electric vehicles.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing is a sham, which.
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Speaker 5: Is why you know that it's just a matter of
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Speaker 5: time before they make similar laws here, because that's what
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Speaker 5: government does with all their terrible ideas. They know it's
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Speaker 5: not going to take up. They can see the market.
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Speaker 5: The evs haven't taken off. We've got thousands of them
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Speaker 5: piling up in the country and nobody wants to buy them.
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Speaker 5: So when you come up with a terrible idea, you
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Speaker 5: have to mandate it.
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Speaker 1: Because it's not catching on, so you've.
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Speaker 5: Got to make it compulsory. And the EU has already
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Speaker 5: made similar measures than the UK has, which we're discussing here.
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Speaker 5: So has Canada, and so has several states in the US.
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Speaker 5: It's just a matter of time before Australia's whacked with
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Speaker 5: the same thing.
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Speaker 1: We know.
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Speaker 5: The Act has already banned the sale of petrol cars
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Speaker 5: from twenty thirty five. Then the Climate Council came out
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Speaker 5: just two weeks later after that ban came into I
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Speaker 5: don't obviously it won't come into effect till thirty five,
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Speaker 5: but that bill was passed and the Climate Council comes
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Speaker 5: out two weeks later and says, we recommend this be nationwide.
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Speaker 5: It's got to be nationwide. How else are we going
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Speaker 5: to reach our zero emissions targets. It makes sense everyone.
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Speaker 1: Should be doing this.
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Speaker 5: And that was also just weeks after the federal government
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Speaker 5: put their new fuel efficiency standards in place. So you
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Speaker 5: can feel the noose tightening around your neck if you're
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Speaker 5: someone who just wants to buy whatever car you want,
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Speaker 5: drive whatever car you want. They're already building the stepping
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Speaker 5: stones to a similar mandate like this one. I say
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Speaker 5: it all the time, but this one is clearly another
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Speaker 5: case of predetermined outcomes when they're all acting in concert
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Speaker 5: like this, Like you said, Caleb across the West. It's
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Speaker 5: clear it's just a matter of time before Australia's in
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Speaker 5: the same basket.
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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about the sale of evs in the
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Speaker 2: UK is that where sales are increasing is with fleet
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Speaker 2: and so it's mostly companies that have their own internal
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Speaker 2: policies because they've got to meet climate targets so that
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Speaker 2: they can prove that they are virtuous and deserve to
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Speaker 2: do business. So they're buying electric vehicles, but not because
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Speaker 2: they want them. It's just they've got their own quotas
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Speaker 2: that they have to meet. But the situation is so ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: You've got manufacturers deliberately slowing down the sale of their
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Speaker 2: own product in order to avoid a fine from a
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Speaker 2: government that relies on the taxes from the sale of
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Speaker 2: that very product to fund hospitals, schools. So everybody loses
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Speaker 2: with this, including the government.
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Speaker 1: Yea yeah.
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Speaker 4: But the best part of it I going back to
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Speaker 4: the Canberra point of the act point that you made there.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be setting up a dealership in Yats
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Speaker 4: right now.
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Speaker 1: Whoever thinks about.
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Speaker 4: Yas of all places, but it's just over the border
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Speaker 4: into New South Wales. I'd be putting up a car
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Speaker 4: dealership there, Toyota dealership whatever, and selling petrol cars over there,
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Speaker 4: so everyone from the ACT will just pop over the
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Speaker 4: border and buy a car and drive straight back into
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Speaker 4: the ACT. But the best part of all of this
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Speaker 4: is that the government is trying to impose the mandate
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Speaker 4: and the market is not doing the mandate. They're saying, look,
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Speaker 4: if we can't sell X number of vehicles this year,
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Speaker 4: then we'll simply sell them next year instead. And that's
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Speaker 4: because the consumer won't buy the electric vehicles, so they're
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Speaker 4: trying to mandate it, and even the mandate isn't.
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Speaker 5: But then will it just work on a manufacturing level,
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Speaker 5: because obviously, if as a manufacturer, you guys the dealerships
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Speaker 5: aren't allowed to sell my petrol cars, I'll just stop
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Speaker 5: making them, thereby forcing you all to do my bidding
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Speaker 5: along the line. Tell you who doesn't seem to care
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Speaker 5: about emissions at all is Premier Steven Miles. He's just
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Speaker 5: been busted using a government jet for an eleven minute flight. Well,
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Speaker 5: this must have been some sort of emergency type business, right, No,
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Speaker 5: he went there to give a birthday cake to one
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Speaker 5: of his MPs and announce some fence at a school
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Speaker 5: of course his office didn't paint it in that light.
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Speaker 1: His office said he was in the region.
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Speaker 5: To quote, meet with then listen to Queenslanders across the state.
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Speaker 5: These regions have unique opportunities and challenges that the Miles
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Speaker 5: Labor government is working hard to address, including a shortfall
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Speaker 5: in access to primary healthcare, said his poor beleagued spokeswoman,
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Speaker 5: who must at this point just want to throw her
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Speaker 5: job in because she knows come the polling day later
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Speaker 5: this year, she's going to be out of a job.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 5: This is reminiscent of when the same premiere was busted
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Speaker 5: in April this year taking two jets with his police
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Speaker 5: commissioner and his Minister for Police spending. Again, Goodness knows
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Speaker 5: how many thousands of taxpayer dollars.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
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Speaker 5: Okay when they do it. You know, emissions don't don't
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Speaker 5: matter as long as there's a politician on board.
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Speaker 1: This guy's got form.
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Speaker 5: And that, remember was just days after they'd passed their
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Speaker 5: u butte new emissions reduction target to reduce emissions in
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Speaker 5: the state by seventy five twenty thirty five and zero
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Speaker 5: emissions by twenty fifty. So here they are.
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Speaker 6: They just legislated this.
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Speaker 1: It is now in law, ladies and.
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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, And here he is catching flights like it's nobody's business.
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Speaker 2: I love his spokesperson who went challenged about the costs
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Speaker 2: and no, no, no, we.
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Speaker 3: Already had the jet so it didn't cost any extra.
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Speaker 1: But it runs on fresh air.
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Speaker 7: How do they.
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Speaker 3: Actually fly the thing?
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Speaker 2: And then he goes to announce give the birthday cake right,
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Speaker 2: and to announce the school fence if they win the election,
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Speaker 2: because you know, budgets are tight. Well, if they hadn't
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Speaker 2: used the fuel on that jet, they could have bought
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Speaker 2: the school fence.
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Speaker 4: I know, I'd look seriously to put it into context.
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Speaker 4: It was a seventy four kilometer journey from a Harvey
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Speaker 4: Bay to Bunderbook. Seventy four kilometers. Now that is the
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Speaker 4: same distance as between Brisbane and Surfer's Paradise.
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Speaker 1: So it's a bit over an hour on the road
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Speaker 1: to drive there.
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Speaker 4: But you've got to save that, you know, fifty sixty
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Speaker 4: odd minutes so you can take an eleven minute flight. Now,
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Speaker 4: look of all the things that Stephen Miles could be
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Speaker 4: doing with his day, sure being on the road, there
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Speaker 4: are probably better things he could be doing. But you
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Speaker 4: know what, I would rather him be on the road
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Speaker 4: for that extra hour because it gives him lifts less
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Speaker 4: time to bugger up things in Queensland, because once he
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Speaker 4: gets off the plane in Bunderberg, he's bought an extra
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Speaker 4: hour to pass more legislation and come up with more
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Speaker 4: looney ideas when he's on the.
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Speaker 3: Ground Birthday without realizing it.
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Speaker 2: If you're on the key point, the reason he wasn't
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Speaker 2: on the road is because that road is crap. Because
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Speaker 2: way to improve the Bruce Highway, So every mug in
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Speaker 2: Queensland has to drive it, but not the premiere or
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Speaker 2: he knows how bad.
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Speaker 3: That road is, so he floats higher bow.
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Speaker 5: Only the plans have to up or on the road.
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Speaker 5: Only the plans have to pay energy prices through the roof.
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Speaker 3: Only the plans have to.
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Speaker 5: Brace for blackouts. How many times have we been told
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Speaker 5: that with summer breathing down our next only US plans
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Speaker 5: have to drink out of saga paper straws, while these
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Speaker 5: guys just continue to jet around, spewing out emissions into
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Speaker 5: the atmosphere and preaching to us about how doom is
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Speaker 5: imminent as a matter of climate change.
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Speaker 3: You will know this, Sorry, I didn't research this. It
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Speaker 3: just occurred to me.
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Speaker 2: Has Stephen Miles ever been in opposition, because this seems
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Speaker 2: to be to be the behavior of a politician who's
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Speaker 2: never been in opposition. He's only known the luxury of government.
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Speaker 2: They've been government from.
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Speaker 5: I think this is the behavior of a politician who
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Speaker 5: knows that he's got time, like you know what, who
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Speaker 5: cares at this point eleven minute jet flights to hand
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Speaker 5: out his birthday.
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Speaker 4: It's a bit like and you may remember, because you
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Speaker 4: were probably in canber at the time, was it was
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Speaker 4: it All Gillard who when they were deposed as Prime
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Speaker 4: minister went down to the cellar in the lodge and
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Speaker 4: had a massive party before they got chucked out, just
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Speaker 4: like just went through all the wine because it was like, well,
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Speaker 4: what the hell, like this is my last ten minutes
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Speaker 4: in the job. I may amazed, well enjoy it while
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Speaker 4: I'm there.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like something right with and we'll.
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Speaker 4: Never forget as well, when Tony Abbott was deposed as
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister and Jamie Briggs got up on a marble
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Speaker 4: table dancing and.
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Speaker 1: Broken and then had.
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Speaker 4: To be wheeled around in a wheelchair afterward, you may
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Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 1: Enjoy the trappings of the job on the way out.
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Speaker 4: Stephen Marles certainly is, But isn't it amazing what you
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Speaker 4: can do when you have other people's money. Let's go
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Speaker 4: to the Paralympics, where for the first time, an openly
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Speaker 4: transgender athlete has competed in the athletics.
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Speaker 1: In the running, more.
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Speaker 4: Specifically, this is a fifty year old male who now
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Speaker 4: says he is a woman, goes by the name of
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Speaker 4: Valentina Petrillo. Got to the semi finals in the four
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Speaker 4: F one hundred meter running, came third and then got
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Speaker 4: knocked out. But that's not really the point, because it
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter whether a transgender woman actually wins the event.
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Speaker 4: It's the fact that they are there in the first place,
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Speaker 4: and good enough clearly to get through to the semi finals.
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Speaker 4: Now you can imagine the outrage that has flowed from
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Speaker 4: all of this. Sharon Davies, who's a British Olympic silver
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Speaker 4: medal winning swimmer, said, so we ban Lance Armstrong for
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Speaker 4: taking drugs which will give him a small but important
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Speaker 4: advantage over his male rivals, because it's cheating. But we
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Speaker 4: let fifty one year old male Valentina Patrillo have a
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Speaker 4: huge advantage with no issue at all against female athletes.
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Speaker 4: Why is this being allowed?
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Speaker 1: JK. Rowling.
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Speaker 4: Of course, the author of Harry Potter, in her usual
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Speaker 4: common sense fashion, said why all the anger about the
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Speaker 4: inspirational Patrillo. The cheap community has never had this kind
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Speaker 4: of visibility out and proud cheats like Patrillo prove the
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Speaker 4: era of cheat shaming is over.
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Speaker 1: What a role model.
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Speaker 4: I say, we give Lance Armstrong his medals back and
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Speaker 4: move on. Hashtag cheats, hashtag no shame. And it was
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Speaker 4: only a week and a half ago that Petrillo was
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Speaker 4: talking about the fact that this is a momentous occasion.
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Speaker 4: How good that I get to be the first transgender
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Speaker 4: woman competing openly at the Paralympics. And by the way,
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Speaker 4: there should be a lot more on me.
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Speaker 6: Appreciated, You're respected with the ramento atropo Villamangors persad add
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Speaker 6: in respect to.
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Speaker 4: Petrillo qualifies for the Paralympics by being visually impaired, has
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Speaker 4: part blindness apparently. But of course in that interview says,
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Speaker 4: as we were talking about last night, my ID says,
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Speaker 4: I am a woman, therefore I am a woman. And
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Speaker 4: we talked last night about the fact that in Germany,
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Speaker 4: you know, you can now no longer say that someone
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Speaker 4: is a male, even though they are a biological male,
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Speaker 4: because it says on their passport or their license or
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Speaker 4: their birth certificate or whatever that they are female.
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Speaker 1: And this is the position we end up in here.
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Speaker 4: And you go back to the discussion, of course, around
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Speaker 4: boxing in the main Olympics, where you had two competitors
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Speaker 4: who had apparently previously tested positive for x Y chromosome,
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Speaker 4: so it's believed they might be biological men, et cetera,
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Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter whether you're the worst.
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Speaker 4: Athlete in the world or the best athlete in the world,
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Speaker 4: if you are a biological male, you simply shouldn't be
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Speaker 4: competing against biological women.
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely But some people have jumped on the fact
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Speaker 2: that Petrillo was knocked out in the semi finals, so
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Speaker 2: see that proves there's not a great advantage.
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Speaker 3: But they forget this person is fifty.
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Speaker 2: Years old competing against young athletes who were like twenty
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Speaker 2: two to twenty three years old. So Petrillo is an
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Speaker 2: old woman competing against the young girls and still finishing
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Speaker 2: very very well. I say old woman in italics.
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Speaker 1: But here's my favorite jul story.
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Speaker 2: Right, Petillo says this, says, this is a dream that
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Speaker 2: I had since I was a little girl. But this
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Speaker 2: person only transitioned in his mid forties to become a woman,
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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how it was a dream that
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Speaker 2: he'd had since he was a little girl.
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Speaker 3: And then the way he talks.
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Speaker 2: He says that anybody who criticizes him, he describes him
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Speaker 2: as quote unquote on the same level as Hitler, and
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Speaker 2: then goes on to talk about how trans people are dying.
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Speaker 2: And this is the manipulation, right, that if you disagree
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Speaker 2: with me, then people are going to die, so you
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Speaker 2: better not say anything because if you do, they'll be
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Speaker 2: blood on your hands and you'll be as bad as Hitler.
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Speaker 2: And if this was logical, if this was sensible, if
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Speaker 2: this was scientific, you wouldn't need to resort to that
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Speaker 2: kind of rhetorical manipulation and guilt tripping in order to
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Speaker 2: make your argument.
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Speaker 5: The raging narcissism it takes. Because let's all remind ourselves,
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Speaker 5: we're talking about the Para Olympics this time, okay, So
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Speaker 5: for anyone to make it to the Para Olympics. They
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Speaker 5: have overcome obstacles the likes of which you and I
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Speaker 5: cannot possibly imagine. I was watching an armless archer from
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Speaker 5: India just today. The name is she Tel Debbie, and
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Speaker 5: jaws hit the floor around the world as this incredible
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Speaker 5: human being laced up this archery bow using her feet
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Speaker 5: and shot a bullseye on the first go. That is
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Speaker 5: the kind of inspiration, that is the kind of grit
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Speaker 5: that is that it makes you tear up to watch
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Speaker 5: some of these absolute legends who've had to apply themselves
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Speaker 5: to a certain craft in a way that an able
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Speaker 5: bodied person, no matter how hard we try, will never
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Speaker 5: be able to reach those heights of the grit, the
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Speaker 5: determination it takes to stick to something and get that
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Speaker 5: good at it despite all obstacles. So you make it
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Speaker 5: to the Para Olympics, this is your moment. You've trained
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Speaker 5: year in, year out for it, You've overcome whatever your
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Speaker 5: disability may be, and you've still got.
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Speaker 1: To overcome this. You're not even given a fair.
19:41
Speaker 5: Goal because some raging narcissist is like, no, my dream
19:46
Speaker 5: of being recognized as the sex that I am not
19:50
Speaker 5: is more important than the blood, sweat and tears that
19:53
Speaker 5: you have pushed through and overcome to make it to
19:57
Speaker 5: this momentous occasion in your life. To me, this is
20:00
Speaker 5: more disgusting than the average ones that we talk about,
20:04
Speaker 5: where there's men on this women's team, women are getting
20:07
Speaker 5: her whatever the case may be. We talk about these
20:10
Speaker 5: cases often. This for me is the apex of that,
20:14
Speaker 5: because I'm like, are you kidding me? The para Olympians
20:18
Speaker 5: have to put up with this as well well.
20:20
Speaker 2: I remember the International Olympic Committee boss saying if only
20:23
Speaker 2: someone could come up with, you know, a scientific test
20:26
Speaker 2: to determine male from female, and so we awaked with
20:28
Speaker 2: baited breath for someone to work out having old chromosomes
20:32
Speaker 2: the difference. Of course, the media are having trouble telling
20:34
Speaker 2: the difference. An incredible story about a serial sex offender
20:39
Speaker 2: who's serving time in a New South Wales jail, yet
20:43
Speaker 2: he's being referred to in the media as a female
20:46
Speaker 2: after identifying as a woman while in prison. Dean Angus Bell,
20:52
Speaker 2: thirty one years old, was jailed for a range of
20:55
Speaker 2: child sex offenses, grooming a thirteen year old boy for
20:59
Speaker 2: sex abuse, use, offering a thirteen year old boy, cigarettes, drugs,
21:03
Speaker 2: and one hundred dollars for sex and then after being
21:06
Speaker 2: released from jail, continuing to contact that thirteen year old
21:10
Speaker 2: boy again pursuing sex. Now in prison, Dean Angus Bell
21:15
Speaker 2: is running a child abuse ring, distributing child abuse material
21:19
Speaker 2: to other inmates, so clearly an unsavory character. But Dean
21:24
Speaker 2: has now started identifying as Jessica. Jessica Isabelle Rose. He
21:29
Speaker 2: now goes by and incredibly, the Daily Male has reported
21:33
Speaker 2: this person as a woman. Reducts referred to the Daily
21:39
Speaker 2: Male article saying despite his lengthy record of sexually abusing children,
21:43
Speaker 2: Daily Mail Australia referred to Belle as a notorious female
21:48
Speaker 2: pedophile and as miss Rose in their recent report, even
21:52
Speaker 2: though five years ago and now deleted Daily Mail article
21:55
Speaker 2: about Bell referred.
21:56
Speaker 3: To him as a male. Now, there's a couple of
22:00
Speaker 3: problems with this.
22:01
Speaker 2: The first is that it's the job of the media
22:03
Speaker 2: to report what is happening, not to report propaganda and lies,
22:08
Speaker 2: and clearly Angus Dean rather is a man, not a woman. Second,
22:13
Speaker 2: doesn't this play into the hands of a prisoner who
22:16
Speaker 2: changes gender while behind bars, because we all know where
22:20
Speaker 2: this is going, right, at some point, it's a fair
22:23
Speaker 2: chance that dean will say I don't belong in the
22:26
Speaker 2: men's prison. I need to be in the women's prison,
22:29
Speaker 2: and you'll hold up a copy of the Daily Mail
22:31
Speaker 2: and say, look, I'm a woman.
22:32
Speaker 3: It's acknowledged everywhere.
22:34
Speaker 2: Third, isn't it the height of misogyny to blame women
22:39
Speaker 2: for not just any crimes, but these are the most
22:41
Speaker 2: horrific sex crimes.
22:43
Speaker 1: And Fourth, it's.
22:44
Speaker 2: Confusing for the public because when you realize, or when
22:47
Speaker 2: you read rather about a woman who's trying to solicit
22:50
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old boy for sex distributing sex material,
22:53
Speaker 2: you sort of scratch your head and don't you think
22:56
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like a typical woman.
22:58
Speaker 3: That's not normal.
23:00
Speaker 2: It's sort of misconstrues crime statistics because all of a
23:04
Speaker 2: sudden you've got all these weird women committing sex crimes,
23:07
Speaker 2: which is not the norm. Normally, it's guys that do that,
23:10
Speaker 2: not women.
23:10
Speaker 4: It's true to a agree that we do frequently read
23:13
Speaker 4: about stories of female teachers who seem to be having
23:15
Speaker 4: illicit relationships.
23:16
Speaker 1: With male students.
23:18
Speaker 4: But the Daily Male has gone out of its way
23:21
Speaker 4: here to note the factor, not note the fact that
23:25
Speaker 4: this is a transgender person, like the only mention in
23:28
Speaker 4: the headline. As you said before, it literally says a
23:31
Speaker 4: notorious female pedophile in dubbed leader of the Pack, he
23:35
Speaker 4: is accused of running a child abusering from behind bars
23:38
Speaker 4: at men's jail. The only thing in the article that
23:41
Speaker 4: indicates that this is a transgender woman a biological man
23:45
Speaker 4: is the line quote Jessica Isabelle Rose, formally known as
23:49
Speaker 4: Dean Angus Bell. That's the only thing in the article
23:52
Speaker 4: that even suggests that this might be a trap.
23:55
Speaker 3: And join the dots for myself.
23:56
Speaker 1: Now, Now, look, I don't know.
23:58
Speaker 4: I've only been in journalism for nine odd years as
24:01
Speaker 4: a reporter and a chief of staff, and a columnist
24:03
Speaker 4: and a TV host, so what would I know. But
24:06
Speaker 4: the first thing I was told as a cadet, and
24:09
Speaker 4: then again when I became a court reporter, is the
24:12
Speaker 4: most interesting stuff goes at the top. Now, if you're
24:16
Speaker 4: reading an article about someone, you're pretty interested in the
24:20
Speaker 4: fact that they are transgender, because if you're looking at
24:23
Speaker 4: a photograph of someone who has a beard and they're
24:27
Speaker 4: called Jessica, you kind of want to know why Jessica
24:31
Speaker 4: has a beard. So the only reason that transgender is
24:35
Speaker 4: not mentioned in the story is because they are suppressing
24:38
Speaker 4: it and hiding it, and that is disgusting. When you
24:41
Speaker 4: are discussing reporting on anyone's crimes or alleged crimes, you
24:46
Speaker 4: give them as much detail as possible. They are deliberately
24:50
Speaker 4: leaving out the detail that is the opposite.
24:53
Speaker 2: Sojourneral just before we move on from that, as a
24:55
Speaker 2: reporter and a chief of staff, what's the motivation for
24:58
Speaker 2: a news organization do well?
25:00
Speaker 4: The only motivation possibly is that you don't want to
25:03
Speaker 4: get caught up in being accused of bigotry. But I
25:06
Speaker 4: will note that pretty much every other media organization that
25:09
Speaker 4: reported on this case, including the nine newspapers Sydney Morning Herald,
25:12
Speaker 4: which you tend to think of being left leaning, had
25:15
Speaker 4: in either the first paragraph or the second paragraph, that
25:18
Speaker 4: Dean now Jessica is transgender, because it's an obvious fact.
25:23
Speaker 4: It is a pertinent fact when you are reporting on
25:26
Speaker 4: such a story. The Daily Mail left it out, either
25:29
Speaker 4: because they don't want the reader to know that, or
25:33
Speaker 4: they feel that pointing that out.
25:35
Speaker 1: Would be mean.
25:36
Speaker 4: Well, I would say, if you're talking about a convicted pedophile,
25:40
Speaker 4: come mean, you mean Peterphile.
25:44
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to hurt a pedophile's feelings. My goodness,
25:47
Speaker 5: I still stand by the death penalty for a convicted
25:50
Speaker 5: pedophiles through and through. This reminds me of that utterly
25:53
Speaker 5: outrageous case in Scotland of Isla Bryson, who transitions after.
25:59
Speaker 1: Raping two women.
26:00
Speaker 5: Being convicted of raping two women.
26:02
Speaker 1: Got to go to a woman's prison. He was later
26:07
Speaker 1: then sent to a male prison.
26:09
Speaker 5: But this brought attention to the fact that this prison,
26:13
Speaker 5: known as Corton Vail, actually had sixteen transgender prisoners at
26:19
Speaker 5: the time. So how many of these men aren't even
26:24
Speaker 5: punished properly because they decide at some very convenient time,
26:28
Speaker 5: oh I'm a woman now, sixteen of them got to
26:32
Speaker 5: go to a female only prison, because that's the important
26:36
Speaker 5: Scotland put on it, above and beyond women's safety. And
26:40
Speaker 5: this isn't the first time the crimes of a man
26:43
Speaker 5: have been pinned on my sex. And this is something
26:46
Speaker 5: that Harry Potter Rider yes JK. Rowling, has tweeted about
26:52
Speaker 5: at length.
26:53
Speaker 1: Because the fury it is for us to go, hang.
26:56
Speaker 5: On a minute, you can commit the most heinous crimes
27:00
Speaker 5: and then it said that a woman has done so,
27:04
Speaker 5: No thank you, absolutely not, and yet even in the
27:07
Speaker 5: headlines it was a female who had committed these crimes.
27:12
Speaker 5: Do me a favor to more transmadness to Ireland now,
27:17
Speaker 5: where a guy by the name of Enoch Burke has
27:20
Speaker 5: been imprisoned yet again.
27:23
Speaker 1: This is his third stint in.
27:25
Speaker 5: Jail and it's probably not the first time you've heard
27:27
Speaker 5: his name. It was back in August twenty two that
27:31
Speaker 5: he went to jail for the first time because he
27:34
Speaker 5: refused to call a student by their preferred name and
27:38
Speaker 5: preferred pronoun. This student wanted to transition, and Enoch Burke,
27:44
Speaker 5: being a teacher and being a man of faith, refuse
27:48
Speaker 5: to give into this idea of compelled speech, refuse to
27:53
Speaker 5: play his part in this person's transition. Being someone of faith,
27:57
Speaker 5: it's not something that he believes in.
28:00
Speaker 1: In well, after spending.
28:02
Speaker 5: Four hundred days in jail because he refused also to
28:07
Speaker 5: abide by the school's suspension, they said if you stay away,
28:11
Speaker 5: or if you stay and just use the pronouns, then
28:15
Speaker 5: all is well. Refused to do so, went to prison
28:18
Speaker 5: for four hundred days and in June of this year
28:23
Speaker 5: he was let out of prison and the school thought, well,
28:26
Speaker 5: it's going to be Okay, because it's school holidays, he's
28:29
Speaker 5: not going to try it on again. He's not going
28:31
Speaker 5: to rock up. But come August, school was back in session,
28:35
Speaker 5: and Enoch rocked up to do his job.
28:38
Speaker 1: He said, look, the.
28:39
Speaker 5: School's still paying me, and I am here to do
28:43
Speaker 5: my duty. But the cops were there to greet him,
28:46
Speaker 5: and this is what ensued.
28:54
Speaker 7: Surgery mutilation, Yes, mutilation mutilation. As he has chemicals, he
29:11
Speaker 7: has a right. I've right to be here.
29:13
Speaker 1: You're to tell students.
29:15
Speaker 7: You will need to tell.
29:27
Speaker 1: I love a man with conviction. This is his quote.
29:30
Speaker 5: He said, when I am commanded, when I am told
29:33
Speaker 5: that I can't have my religious beliefs anymore, When I'm
29:35
Speaker 5: told I have to confess believe in transgenderism instead of
29:39
Speaker 5: my simple belief which is male and female, that's just
29:43
Speaker 5: a breach simply of my rights. Well, said Enoch Burke.
29:48
Speaker 5: I know I'm backing you, and millions across the globe
29:51
Speaker 5: are too. This is such an important taste to see
29:55
Speaker 5: a man literally jailed for over four hundred days and
29:59
Speaker 5: now doing a third. We don't know how long this
30:01
Speaker 5: one will be simply because he refuses to buy into transgenderism.
30:08
Speaker 5: That's it, and he also refuses because they haven't fired
30:11
Speaker 5: him to stop doing his job. And the fact that
30:15
Speaker 5: a school would go this far, a government would go
30:18
Speaker 5: this far as to throw him in jail for the
30:20
Speaker 5: third time over this, it's absolutely hair raising.
30:24
Speaker 2: And the way he's being misrepresented on social media. I
30:27
Speaker 2: was reading so many comments where people say it said,
30:29
Speaker 2: he's not being imprisoned for refusing to support gender theory.
30:33
Speaker 3: He's being imprisoned for breaching.
30:34
Speaker 2: A court order, which technically is true, but it's kind
30:38
Speaker 2: of missing the point that there would be no court
30:41
Speaker 2: order if he simply did what he was told to
30:43
Speaker 2: do to support gender theory, call a child by a
30:49
Speaker 2: gender that they clearly are not, which is as he
30:51
Speaker 2: says in that arrest, to endorse surgical procedures, to endorse
30:57
Speaker 2: hormone treatment that is no, according.
31:00
Speaker 3: To a cholistry animation, that it is bad for young people.
31:03
Speaker 1: If I knew that all I had to do is.
31:05
Speaker 4: Was get years of pay and not have to do
31:07
Speaker 4: any work, was quote unquote misgender a child, I would
31:09
Speaker 4: have done.
31:10
Speaker 1: It a long time ago.
31:11
Speaker 4: And you know that I understand people having the thought, well,
31:14
Speaker 4: you know, he's not doing much to help himself because
31:15
Speaker 4: he keeps going back to the school.
31:17
Speaker 1: But the thing is he's in a no man's land.
31:19
Speaker 4: Here because, as you said, the school is refusing to
31:21
Speaker 4: sack him. They just suspend him and say don't show up,
31:25
Speaker 4: presumably because they're worried about what legal trouble this day
31:28
Speaker 4: could get into the school could get into if they
31:31
Speaker 4: sack him for it, So they put a suspension on top.
31:34
Speaker 4: Say well, you're not actually losing your job here, we're
31:38
Speaker 4: just asking you not to come to work because it
31:40
Speaker 4: might cause more grief for us if we go through
31:43
Speaker 4: with the sacking. Well, I would simply say to the school,
31:45
Speaker 4: you should have the courage of your convictions in the
31:48
Speaker 4: same way that he does. If you believe that he
31:51
Speaker 4: has breached his contract or he's breached his responsibilities as
31:55
Speaker 4: a teacher by refusing to call a child who says
31:59
Speaker 4: they are transitioning by what they say is their new
32:01
Speaker 4: gender and the new name, etc. Then sack him and
32:05
Speaker 4: let that case be run, because of course he'll go
32:07
Speaker 4: for unfair dismissal. But if the school truly believes that
32:10
Speaker 4: what he has done is wrong, why don't they have
32:13
Speaker 4: the courage to sack him. So you've got to feel
32:15
Speaker 4: sorry for him being in that position, because as far
32:17
Speaker 4: as he's concerned, he's still employed.
32:18
Speaker 1: As far as the school's concerned, he's still employed.
32:21
Speaker 2: But they won't go that step, and he's become a
32:23
Speaker 2: nightmare for the school because he's kept this issue on
32:26
Speaker 2: the front pages of papers. And I mean here we
32:28
Speaker 2: are in Australia talking about it as well. So what
32:31
Speaker 2: the school of losing on every front. They haven't shut
32:33
Speaker 2: him up, They're still paying money.
32:35
Speaker 3: It's still an issue.
32:36
Speaker 5: And importantly it's another one of those cases, just like
32:39
Speaker 5: the German podcast as we were talking about last night,
32:42
Speaker 5: who have been extortionately punished simply for misgendering a trans
32:47
Speaker 5: woman by referring to the fact that he is a
32:49
Speaker 5: biological male. This is another one of those instances where
32:53
Speaker 5: they hold up a scalp and they say, this is
32:56
Speaker 5: what will happen to you if you dare defy the
32:59
Speaker 5: new or orthodoxy. This is what will happen to you
33:02
Speaker 5: if you don't let your religious beliefs go by the
33:04
Speaker 5: wayside in favor of the new religion. And for so
33:09
Speaker 5: many across the Western world, this is never going to work.
33:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're talking about a lot of problems. But
33:14
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who's got problems, and that's Adelaide. There
33:17
Speaker 2: are so many problems in Adelaide. I know because I
33:19
Speaker 2: left the plan and has always fall the Adelaide Hills Council.
33:24
Speaker 3: They were going along quite nicely.
33:26
Speaker 2: They projected a budget surplus of five hundred and fifty
33:30
Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars. That's pretty good these days when governments
33:33
Speaker 2: are losing money any everywhere. Only two on Monday announce
33:36
Speaker 2: we actually got that wrong. Instead of a five hundred
33:39
Speaker 2: and fifty nine thousand dollars surplus, it's going to be
33:41
Speaker 2: a four point eight million dollar deficit. The acting mayor
33:45
Speaker 2: said it was a significant adjustment. Indeed, Melanie Sellwood is
33:49
Speaker 2: the acting mayor. In making the announcement, she said, clearly,
33:52
Speaker 2: this update as reported in our operating results is not councils.
33:57
Speaker 2: I love this for an understatement. It's not our preferred outcome. Yeah,
34:00
Speaker 2: I would have thought a five million dollar turnaround would
34:03
Speaker 2: not be the preferred outcome. Nonetheless, she said, council's long
34:06
Speaker 2: term financial plan remains viable. Well, how we meant to
34:09
Speaker 2: believe that, and we do not anticipate that our service
34:11
Speaker 2: delivery to residents will be affected on identifying these a
34:16
Speaker 2: discrepancy Caleber Council considered the matter and has reported it
34:21
Speaker 2: to the Order to General Council is awaiting a response.
34:27
Speaker 2: This is the same council that canceled all funding of
34:31
Speaker 2: Australia Day events and then canceled a public meeting to
34:34
Speaker 2: get feedback on what they should do with Australia Day.
34:37
Speaker 2: This is a council that was paying one hundred thousand
34:40
Speaker 2: dollars for a lawyer to sit beside the mayor at
34:43
Speaker 2: council meetings, but they should have pad one hundred grand
34:45
Speaker 2: for an accountant to sit beside the mayor at council meetings.
34:48
Speaker 2: This is the same council that said, look, we're not
34:51
Speaker 2: going to empty your bins on a weekly basis. We're
34:53
Speaker 2: going to empty your rubbish bins fortnightly, but we will
34:56
Speaker 2: empty organic waste every week because that's important. So they
35:01
Speaker 2: can manage all those things. They just can't manage their budget.
35:04
Speaker 1: I mean, for him, what do they need to go
35:05
Speaker 1: to the Order to General Ford and they don't.
35:07
Speaker 4: They employ people within the council whose job it is
35:10
Speaker 4: to look at numbers and look at budgets. What's the
35:14
Speaker 4: CEO doing what's all the directors doing? This is just
35:18
Speaker 4: bread and butter, normal stuff for a council to be
35:20
Speaker 4: able to do. If you can't balance the books, how
35:24
Speaker 4: are we to expect that you can do anything else.
35:27
Speaker 1: And it's not as small discriptancye as they say.
35:31
Speaker 4: To go from you know, five hundred five hundred grand
35:34
Speaker 4: in the black to more than four and a half
35:36
Speaker 4: million in the red. I mean, you don't just misplace
35:39
Speaker 4: five million dollars overnight, do you?
35:41
Speaker 3: You do if you're in Victoria, well, well that is
35:44
Speaker 3: that is true.
35:44
Speaker 4: Actually in Victoria you don't have five million dollars left
35:47
Speaker 4: to to misplace. But it reminds me of a story
35:49
Speaker 4: we talked about in the papers last week, which was
35:52
Speaker 4: on the front of the Canvra Times. And again, you know,
35:55
Speaker 4: it's amazing that these people can continue to do their jobs.
35:58
Speaker 4: I suspect no one at the Eddler Hills Council will
36:01
Speaker 4: be sacked for this major cock up. But in the
36:03
Speaker 4: public service it's exactly the same where bureaucrats who were
36:07
Speaker 4: overlooking the digital health record system said that don't worry,
36:11
Speaker 4: it's all going to be fine. We're all going to
36:12
Speaker 4: come in under budget, and then they found out that
36:15
Speaker 4: they were forty million dollars over budget. How does this
36:18
Speaker 4: stuff continually happen? If you were in any private business
36:23
Speaker 4: and you were responsible for the books and you walked
36:26
Speaker 4: into the CEO's office and said, small problem.
36:30
Speaker 1: You know, you know that five hundred grand surplus. Where
36:32
Speaker 1: were going to deliver?
36:33
Speaker 4: Well, I've managed to turn it into a four point
36:35
Speaker 4: six million dollar deficit. I mean, you couldn't get out
36:38
Speaker 4: of that room fast enough. But local government, federal government,
36:41
Speaker 4: state government, that's just part of the job.
36:43
Speaker 2: You know, we've been paying out on this Adelaide Council
36:46
Speaker 2: for calling this five million dollar turnaround and adjustment. But
36:49
Speaker 2: then you tell the story of the camera public service,
36:51
Speaker 2: forty million dollars the Adelaide Hills councilor well, it's just
36:54
Speaker 2: an adjustment.
36:55
Speaker 3: You're doing very well. We're going to go to a
36:57
Speaker 3: break when we come back.
36:58
Speaker 2: Labor being pushed to include dental in medicare, we'll talk
37:02
Speaker 2: about that in the moment.
37:06
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
37:07
Speaker 2: Well, we haven't been bothered by climate protesters for a while,
37:10
Speaker 2: but they're on the front pages of tomorrow's papers.
37:13
Speaker 5: Liz, Yeah, they missed us, They missed the publicity port
37:17
Speaker 5: protests since ship a visit on the front page of
37:21
Speaker 5: the Newcastle Herald, New South Wales Premier Chris Mins has
37:25
Speaker 5: slammed climate activists' plans to blockade Newcastle Harbor in November,
37:30
Speaker 5: after a cruise ship operator canceled a visit to the
37:33
Speaker 5: city to avoid the upcoming protest. The article goes on
37:38
Speaker 5: to say that, well, the cruise ship canceled due to
37:41
Speaker 5: this planned ten day protest. It's being organized by activist
37:46
Speaker 5: group Rising Tide, which is seeking to stop call exports
37:51
Speaker 5: from the port by twenty thirty. Now, these guys have
37:54
Speaker 5: applied to New South Wales police to protest between November
37:58
Speaker 5: nineteen to twenty Good grief, that's almost ten days of
38:02
Speaker 5: solid protest.
38:04
Speaker 1: So why don't you just say no? Why don't you
38:07
Speaker 1: just say no?
38:07
Speaker 5: It's already costing us economically to have these guys even
38:11
Speaker 5: talking about having this protest. They've applied to have the protest.
38:17
Speaker 5: Why don't the police just say no, Well they order.
38:20
Speaker 2: To or let them have their protest, because you've got
38:22
Speaker 2: the right to protest, but you don't have the right
38:24
Speaker 2: to protest in an area where you're going to block
38:27
Speaker 2: movement where you're going to block a ship getting into dock.
38:30
Speaker 3: This is economic foundalistm some people from it will not
38:33
Speaker 3: be allowed. Although I don't feel sorry for.
38:34
Speaker 2: Governments, because governments keep banging on about climate change, global boiling,
38:39
Speaker 2: We've got to reduce emissions, there's a climate crisis, and
38:42
Speaker 2: then they get upset with protesters doing this, So you
38:45
Speaker 2: can't have it both ways. You've either got a climate
38:47
Speaker 2: crisis or you don't.
38:49
Speaker 4: So sure, sure, for sure, I just feel sorry for
38:52
Speaker 4: the people of Newcastle and the poor baggers missed out
38:55
Speaker 4: on all that track.
38:56
Speaker 1: Poor baggers are.
38:56
Speaker 4: On this boat expecting that they were going to pull
38:58
Speaker 4: into Newcastle and have the day trips and whatever I
39:00
Speaker 4: mean they call themselves rising tight. I wish the tide
39:03
Speaker 4: would actually rise and up to come in and just
39:06
Speaker 4: sweep them away.
39:07
Speaker 1: I mean, Armie, what happened to the water cannons?
39:10
Speaker 4: Get the bloody water cannons out and fire these people
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Speaker 4: out into the port at Newcastle and let them swim
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Speaker 4: back as.
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Speaker 2: Far as This is a massive victory for groups like this, though,
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Speaker 2: exactly because formerly you had a protest and that disrupted everything.
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Speaker 2: Now they don't have to have the protest, and already
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Speaker 2: it's causing disruptions.
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Speaker 3: So that's how bad things have, it.
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Speaker 4: Seems, the message that you can do whatever you want.
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Speaker 4: And the more we have these cases and the more
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Speaker 4: they get away with it, the more embolden they are.
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Speaker 4: Let's go to the career at Mail tomorrow. We're truly
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Speaker 4: shocking story. I'm sure you've heard about in the last
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Speaker 4: couple of days. Pephiles three hundred and seven crimes, worst
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Speaker 4: of the worst.
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Speaker 1: Furious parents have packed.
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Speaker 4: A court room to stare down one of Australia's worst pedophiles.
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Speaker 1: Who pleaded guilty to more than three.
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Speaker 4: Hundred child sex offenses committed inside Queensland childcare centers. May
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Speaker 4: I say, I hope he rot in hell, and I'm
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Speaker 4: sure that in jail, when the time comes, he will
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Speaker 4: be dealt out a bit of prison justice. Another story
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Speaker 4: on the well and they may will find a way
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Speaker 4: to do that in jail. And now the story on
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Speaker 4: the front of the courier Mail tomorrow, Despair of the Young.
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Speaker 4: Nine out of ten Queensland young people are struggling with
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Speaker 4: their mental health and more than half are totally burnt out,
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Speaker 4: with social media contributing to the decline in well being.
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Speaker 4: This has come out of research that was commissioned by
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Speaker 4: Health and Wellbeing Queensland. Social media is one of the
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Speaker 4: leading contributors to this slide for kids between the ages
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Speaker 4: of fourteen and twenty five. There were fourteen hundred people
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Speaker 4: surveyed and more than half said that they felt tired
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Speaker 4: for no reason. And we were talking about this last
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Speaker 4: week where we live in this ultra connected world now
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Speaker 4: where there is no escape from it. You're expected to
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Speaker 4: reply to everything all of the time. You are connected
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Speaker 4: to everything all of the time. The bullying that kids
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Speaker 4: experience in the schoolyard now goes home with them and
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Speaker 4: continues online all of the time. I mean, if you
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Speaker 4: are a parent at this point, I think the best
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Speaker 4: thing you could do for your kid is to take
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Speaker 4: the device away and give them a book and say,
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Speaker 4: little Johnny, go and run out and kick the football
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Speaker 4: or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Don't go on Facebook, don't go into it it, don't
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Speaker 1: go on whatever it is.
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Speaker 4: Live your life as a child. You can deal with
41:23
Speaker 4: all of these things when you're an adult. Because it
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Speaker 4: is so obvious that this is having an awful effect
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Speaker 4: on children.
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Speaker 2: You're speaking of physical activity that the survey also found
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Speaker 2: thirty four percent of those surveyed said they were less
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Speaker 2: physically active this year than they were last surprise. And
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Speaker 2: then if you're feeling stressed, anxious, tired, less physical activity,
41:44
Speaker 2: then you're going to.
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Speaker 3: Start to feel ill.
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Speaker 2: And you've got all the health ramifications of that as well.
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Speaker 2: So it's a compounding effect for young people.
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Speaker 5: But every time I read one of these articles, I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Like, where are parents?
41:56
Speaker 5: Are you just mia right now? The kids are not Okay,
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Speaker 5: this is your job. I remember as a kid, obviously
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Speaker 5: we didn't have iPhones or anything like that, but we
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Speaker 5: had computers, we had TV, and we had allotted screen
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Speaker 5: time and it was like so exciting because you only
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Speaker 5: got a certain amount every day, and under my mum's
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Speaker 5: rule and rain it wasn't much. It was like an
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Speaker 5: hour an hour and a half.
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Speaker 1: If you'd been good.
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Speaker 7: But it meant that.
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Speaker 5: Kids really enjoyed that time playing their game or in
42:27
Speaker 5: this case, maybe sending a few messages to their friends,
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Speaker 5: which you see all day at school.
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Speaker 1: Anyway.
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Speaker 5: By the way, it's not like this mode of communication
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Speaker 5: is necessary at that age.
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Speaker 1: All your friends, you're seeing.
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Speaker 5: Them every day, day in day out at school. Anyway.
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Speaker 5: I just don't understand why parents aren't taking a firmer stand.
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Speaker 5: And on the other end of that, kids aren't being
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Speaker 5: taught about what a healthy lifestyle looks like, how important
42:57
Speaker 5: it is to get the sun on your skin, to
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Speaker 5: go out side, touch grass, eat some fruit, have a sport,
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Speaker 5: have something else like a musical instrument, or something to
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Speaker 5: devote your time and attention to. It's a really sad
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Speaker 5: state of affairs, as well as sleeping patterns, Like all
43:13
Speaker 5: the most simple things kids simply aren't tort Let's.
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Speaker 3: Take their phones to bed and they lay in bed
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Speaker 3: in the dark's doom, scrolling the.
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Speaker 5: Worst things you can do blue light before bed like
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Speaker 5: that actually does certain things to your brain. If we
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Speaker 5: could teach kids about the simplest things, maybe in the
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Speaker 5: absence of parents giving a rep they could look after
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Speaker 5: themselves a little bit and find out why they're tired
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Speaker 5: for no reason.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Daily Telegraph
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Speaker 2: Arrested Development Sydney councils taking two hundred days to approve
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Speaker 2: DA's the slowest councils in Sydney for development application approvals
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Speaker 2: have been revealed, with seven local government authorities across the city.
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Speaker 2: Last financial year taking longer than two hundred days to
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Speaker 2: approve development applications. I guess, Caleb, this is why you
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Speaker 2: shouldn't give this sort of responsibility to people who are
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Speaker 2: flat out filling potholes.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, for heaven's sake, they managed to
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Speaker 4: turn five hundred thousand dollars surpluses into four point eight
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Speaker 4: million dollar deficits. How could you possibly expect them to
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Speaker 4: approve things on time? I mean the worst in New
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Speaker 4: South Wales is the Georgi's River Council at two hundred
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Speaker 4: and ninety eight days on average to approve small scale projects.
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Speaker 1: How can it take two hundred and ninety eight days now? Now?
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Speaker 4: Look again, you know in my days when I was
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Speaker 4: a local government reporter and I was reporting on development
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Speaker 4: stuff all the time.
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Speaker 1: Generally, as I understand it, someone makes.
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Speaker 4: Application, application, goes to council, Council receives application, Council then
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Speaker 4: has to make decision. Now, either you are so backed
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Speaker 4: up that it's like you've been eating dry food for
44:56
Speaker 4: seven months and you're so constipated you can't get it
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Speaker 4: out that you wait two hundred and eighty nine days
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Speaker 4: to be able to assess something, or you're just lazy,
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Speaker 4: like it comes into the intray, look at it, deal
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Speaker 4: with it, move on.
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Speaker 1: How hard can it be?
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Speaker 2: The disaster in this is that by the time the
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Speaker 2: approval comes through, people's loans, people's finances, the cost of construction,
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Speaker 2: it's all irrelevant and they're n't able to proceed even
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Speaker 2: once the development is approved.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is definitely on the staff though, because yes,
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Speaker 5: having been a city councilor myself, the way it works is, yes,
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Speaker 5: the applications come in, but it's the staff at the
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Speaker 5: local government who have to do all the work. Then
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Speaker 5: give the counselors that briefing. The counselors look at it
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Speaker 5: and vote on yay or nay for the development, and
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Speaker 5: you can choose through fifty yay or na's in one
45:45
Speaker 5: council sitting. So it's all the background work that goes
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Speaker 5: on behind closed doors prior to that to give the
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Speaker 5: counselors the briefings on which to make a decision. That
45:56
Speaker 5: is what is clearly taking up.
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Speaker 2: So two hundred days to get a DA extension on
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Speaker 2: your home, how long do you reckoned to take to
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Speaker 2: get approval for a rainbow crossing on the street?
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Speaker 1: Oh, about fifteen seconds?
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 4: That's that's the first order of business at council. That
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Speaker 4: and turning surpluses into deficits. That's spread butter.
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Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break stick around when
46:15
Speaker 2: we come back. Fake Lamborghini's being sold on Facebook. Why
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Speaker 2: are you looking at Facebook to buy a Lamborghini? Cinema
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Speaker 2: All right, now, if like me, you're in the market
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Speaker 2: for a new car, you need to listen to Caleb
46:30
Speaker 2: because he'll help you to avoid purchasing a lemon.
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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, just open your eyes, I think is the
46:35
Speaker 1: moral of the story here.
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Speaker 4: Some bloke called Bob was trying to sell a Lamborghini
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Speaker 4: on Facebook marketplace. Now, as James said earlier, you know,
46:42
Speaker 4: if you're looking for a Lamborghini or Facebook marketplace, you
46:45
Speaker 4: might want to reassess how much money you actually have
46:47
Speaker 4: to buy a vehicle. This is what a Lamborghini looks like, right,
46:51
Speaker 4: This is this is a real yellow, lemon colored Lamborghini.
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Speaker 4: This is what Bob was trying to sell on face
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Speaker 4: book as a Lamborghini.
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Speaker 1: It looks nothing like it. You know what it actually is.
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Speaker 4: It is the last model of Manaro that rolled off
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Speaker 4: the production line. And you can see there the inside
47:10
Speaker 4: of a Holden Monaro. I mean you can see the
47:13
Speaker 4: inside of this thing. We might have a photo of
47:15
Speaker 4: the inside of this particular vehicle.
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Speaker 1: It has the same dashboard, the whole lot.
47:19
Speaker 4: Right, he's taken a kit He's taken what he is,
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Speaker 4: a lovely car, the last Manaro ever made, and he's
47:26
Speaker 4: decided to kit it up to look kinder like a Lamborghini.
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Speaker 4: That is a crime against a great Australian motor car.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I had a looked before.
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Speaker 4: The last model of Manaro is currently selling for up
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Speaker 4: to one hundred and ten rand online, so it's not
47:44
Speaker 4: as though you can't sell.
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Speaker 1: Them for good money. Why would you do that to
47:48
Speaker 1: a good Australian car. They're not making any more of them.
47:51
Speaker 4: Holden is no more and he has just committed a
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Speaker 4: sacrilegious act upon a great Australian vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I am that is discussed.
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Speaker 7: I just love it.
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Speaker 3: When you asked you, so you bought a car, what'd
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Speaker 3: you get? A Lamborghini?
48:03
Speaker 1: Kind of really work?
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Speaker 3: Listen.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, she's been accused of flip flopping over the wall,
48:10
Speaker 2: flip flopping over fracking. Now she's been accused of flip
48:13
Speaker 2: flopping again, not on policy, but on her voice. If
48:17
Speaker 2: you think her policy positions are inauthentic, listen to her
48:21
Speaker 2: accent when speaking at a campaign rally in Detroit.
48:26
Speaker 7: You better thank a union member.
48:30
Speaker 5: One a five day work week. You better thank a union.
48:35
Speaker 7: Member for sickly.
48:36
Speaker 5: You better thank a union member for paid leave. You
48:39
Speaker 5: better thank a union member for vacation time.
48:44
Speaker 2: Okay, so excuse me, may capitalisten ha this is five
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Speaker 2: hours later.
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Speaker 3: Have a listen.
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Speaker 5: Bank unions pacickly, bank unions for paid family leave.
48:56
Speaker 4: Thank unions for your vacation time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell you what.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has got more accents than the United Nations.
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Speaker 1: That's how do we go from US time to time
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Speaker 1: time time.
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Speaker 2: It's all about the audience scaleb That's it from US
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Speaker 2: stick around. Coming up is the Reader Penney Show