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Speaker 1: Is the good reform It tonight to another assassination attempt
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Speaker 1: on Donald Trump by a Trump hater wanting more help
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Speaker 1: for Ukraine, and that could become a political issue. Also tonight,
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Speaker 1: a new pop puts the Abanize government further behind the coalition.
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Speaker 1: Another British child rap ering jailed once again spot the
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Speaker 1: common link, the one few dare to report, and Victoria's
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Speaker 1: Opportunity leader in court accused her to faming one of
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Speaker 1: his own in peace by linking her to Nazis. This
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Speaker 1: is a political czarsa cause by weakness. But first Brendan
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Speaker 1: Kern has to be the last straw. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: man gave a welcome to country at Saturday's AFL semi final.
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Speaker 1: That just showed that this supposed traditional ceremony has become
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Speaker 1: an insight to our intelligence. It shows us that this
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Speaker 1: reconciliation movement is actually turning us into a nation of liars.
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Speaker 1: Here's this Karen from Sydney's Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council
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Speaker 1: doing his welcome and.
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Speaker 2: I'm here this evening to perform a ceremony, a ceremony
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Speaker 2: of welcome to country. A welcome to country is not
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Speaker 2: a welcome to Australia wherein Australia we have many Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: lands and we refer to our lands as country, so
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Speaker 2: it's always a welcome to the lands you're gathered on.
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Speaker 2: A welcome to country is not a ceremony that we've
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Speaker 2: invented to cater for white people. It's a ceremony we've
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Speaker 2: been doing for two hundred and fifty thousand years plus BC,
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Speaker 2: and the BC stands for before cook.
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Speaker 1: Now for us that that's the most unwelcoming welcome I've
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Speaker 1: ever heard. I mean, how much did they say the
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Speaker 1: AFL pay this guy for making non Aboriginal strands feel
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Speaker 1: like strangers in their own land. The more importantly, two
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand years, this Brendan Kerrins's average has
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Speaker 1: been here for two hundred and fifty thousand years, doing
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Speaker 1: well do the country ceremonies, and all that time. For one,
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Speaker 1: I've got to ask, how would even know? But second,
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Speaker 1: what are nonsense? Our human subspecies, Homo sapien sapiens, that's us,
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Speaker 1: hadn't even evolved, hadn't evolved anywhere. Two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: thousand years ago, there weren't any modern humans around to
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Speaker 1: welcome or to do the welcoming. The truth is that
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Speaker 1: most of the credible signs of scenes as averages were
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Speaker 1: actually here for forty thousand years. But our prime minister
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Speaker 1: now says, no, that's not enough. They were here sixty
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Speaker 1: five thousand years ago.
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Speaker 3: In recognition of sixty five thousand years of history.
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Speaker 1: But yes, but that claim is based on one outliers
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Speaker 1: study that has been debunked by some scientists and two
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Speaker 1: papers but fake average or professor Bruce Pasco, an activist,
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Speaker 1: stand grant thinking sixty five thousand years isn't enough. It's
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand.
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Speaker 4: Eighty one hundred thousand years of culture and history.
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Speaker 1: Now this go the foot He says, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: even one hundred thousand isn't enough. Two hundred and fifty thousand.
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Speaker 1: We'll be doing it. Welcomes to the country for two
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Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand years, and each time, you know, they
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Speaker 1: keep going pop up, you're supposed to go, h that's right,
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Speaker 1: that's right, until one day someone's going to trump them
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Speaker 1: all than claim average we're hunting with the dinosaurs. In fact,
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Speaker 1: this kind of welcome to country seventy wasn't invented two
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand years ago, but just forty eight.
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Speaker 1: He was actually invented in this form in nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: six by television presenter and he didn't go and musician
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Speaker 1: Richard Willy, who did it for a festival in Western Australia.
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Speaker 1: Now it's true that there were previously other forms of welcome.
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Speaker 1: A few people actually want to mention them now because
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Speaker 1: they make traditional average of societies look bad, even brutal.
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Speaker 1: In these days. Any truth that does that is called
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Speaker 1: a lie, or it's called racist. No anything of himself
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Speaker 1: has said. One form of welcome involved elders taking the
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Speaker 1: sweat from under their arms and running a down the
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Speaker 1: side of your shoulders, so that any spirits can spell
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Speaker 1: the sweat on you and work out you're okay. Another
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Speaker 1: tradition actually was more horrific. Adolphice Peter Elkin, he's a
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Speaker 1: famous professor of anthropology here, detailed it in this classic
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Speaker 1: The Australian Aborigines How to Understand the Final Edision, which
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Speaker 1: was published in ninety sixty four when there still was
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Speaker 1: a thing called truth. Now. Elkin wrote that tribes made
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Speaker 1: peace or welcome strangers by sending over their women for sex.
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Speaker 1: Robert Hughes, in his best selling History of the Fatal Show,
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Speaker 1: recorded the very same. He said, as a mark of
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Speaker 1: hospitality wise lents of visitors whom the era tribesmen wanted
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Speaker 1: to honor. If a woman show the least reluctance, she
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Speaker 1: would be furiously beaten or even speared. But of course
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Speaker 1: we don't say these things now because it seems I'm
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Speaker 1: kind to Aborigines. You know, We've got to believe sweet
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Speaker 1: lies instead. And that is how the reconciliation movement, yes,
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Speaker 1: is turning us into a nation of liars. If you
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Speaker 1: accept the lies, if you say nothing, you're a good person.
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Speaker 1: If you insist on the truth, If you had booed
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Speaker 1: that guy, you're a racist. That's how being turned into
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Speaker 1: a nation of lies. Facts are false if they seem mean.
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Speaker 1: Lies are true if they make you seem nice. So
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Speaker 1: the bigger the lie, the better person you are to
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Speaker 1: believe it. And around Australia now are very woke individual
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Speaker 1: saying two hundred and fifty thousand years that've been here,
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Speaker 1: look how good I am. But I'll give you other examples.
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Speaker 1: Stolen generations. That's taught in schools as fact up to
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Aboriginal children stolen from their loving parents.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I've challenged activists for decades name even ten children,
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Speaker 1: ten who were stolen by officials just because they were Aboriginal. Well,
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Speaker 1: our courts have not identified even one. No one's been
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Speaker 1: my challenge, not one, but to say that, of course
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Speaker 1: now is racist. It's true, but it's racist even in
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Speaker 1: our universities. The truth is not what's true, but what's nice.
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Speaker 1: So the Australian National University teaches Aborigines could have been
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Speaker 1: our world's earliest astronomers. Gee whizz. And that's why Melbourne
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Speaker 1: University hired a fake aborige and E Bruce Pascoe as
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Speaker 1: an enterprise professor in Indigenous Agriculture, a false discipline created
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Speaker 1: after Pasco falsely claimed in his fake history Dark Emu
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Speaker 1: that Aboriges had actually been farmers in towns of a
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Speaker 1: thousand people. This whole circus has got to stop, and
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Speaker 1: we've got to start with his divisive welcome to countries.
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Speaker 1: Who on earth do they help, apart of course from
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Speaker 1: the eldest getting the feast to dress up and perform,
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Speaker 1: invent their rage at the white society that pays them.
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Speaker 1: How We're supposed to move on together with this racial division,
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Speaker 1: with this racial resentment, and with us having to swallow
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Speaker 1: such incredible lies. Joined me is the panel Michael Crowe,
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Speaker 1: a form of Victorian Liberal President Steve Conroy, former Labor
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Speaker 1: senator and cabinet minister, a bunch of Kroger. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm sensing something's peaked here. I think peak Welcome to
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Speaker 1: country for a start, that strange. Now have had enough?
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Speaker 1: Has the ceremony actually outlived any usefulness it once had? Well?
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Speaker 5: I think so. And people tiring of Aboriginal activists. They're
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Speaker 5: tiring of Aboriginal exaggeration. They're tiring of Welcome to the
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Speaker 5: country that was an embarrassment on Saturday night, a farce.
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Speaker 5: They're tired of QUANTUS planes landing and being welcome to
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Speaker 5: our own country all of us. Has the Australians vada
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Speaker 5: on this last year, you know, it culmulated in the
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Speaker 5: voice and people said, no, what we want are the
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Speaker 5: types of things that just into Price talks about practical
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Speaker 5: help on the ground for domestic violence, alcoholism, unemployment, schooling kids, violence,
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Speaker 5: law breakers. Let's do something practical. All of these sort
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Speaker 5: of camera based you know, well paid Aboriginal leaders. The
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Speaker 5: elites Australians said no to that. So yeah, people are
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Speaker 5: tiring of this, Andrew and the welcome to country at
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Speaker 5: the football now is not helping the Aboriginal community. It's
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Speaker 5: damaging them unfortunately.
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Speaker 1: I just wonder how often we've got to be welcome,
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Speaker 1: for instance, to the MCG before we can dispense with
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Speaker 1: the ceremony at all. I mean, you know the at once.
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Speaker 1: Did they need to do it twice, ten times, one
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Speaker 1: hundred times? See Conroy? What is the ceremony actually for
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Speaker 1: and is it achieving that aim?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 7: I think if we separate out the welcome country ceremony
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Speaker 7: from some of the other things Michael just talked about,
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Speaker 7: I think Michael's conflated a couple of issues to just
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Speaker 7: add to his narrative. I think there is nothing wrong
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Speaker 7: with wanting to acknowledge the original inhabitants of Australia. I
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Speaker 7: can't find any issue with that whatsoever. And repetitiveness doesn't
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Speaker 7: make it suddenly retronizing. I can understand. No, I can
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Speaker 7: understand the point that both you and Michael have made
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Speaker 7: around Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: Some would I do just go to do the welcome
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Speaker 1: the country, the country. All right, you don't like what Malcolm,
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Speaker 1: you don't like what Michael was adding, welcome to country.
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Speaker 1: My question was what's it for and is it achieving that? Aim? Well?
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Speaker 7: I think in general Australians have not had as big
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Speaker 7: an issue. I think what's happening when every time you
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Speaker 7: catch a plane it's played when you're not sort of
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Speaker 7: left the country you've just flown from Sydney to Melbourne
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Speaker 7: is possibly becoming an irritant. But in terms of the
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Speaker 7: principle as significant events, both cultural, sporting, art, parliament, those
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Speaker 7: sorts of things, I do see a role for that
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Speaker 7: sort of ceremony, I think.
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Speaker 1: But what is it? I haven't heard. What is the
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Speaker 1: role of this thing? Michael? Do you know what it is?
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Speaker 1: I mean, Stephen's struggling to remember what the role.
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Speaker 7: It's an acknowledgement. It's acknowledgement actually.
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Speaker 1: Twice and you didn't have an answer, so I'm just actually.
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Speaker 7: It is acknowledgment of the original of the original inhabitants of.
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Speaker 5: This it's acknowledgement of Michael, an acknowledgment of their it's
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Speaker 5: an acknowledgment of their history. But it's not necessary at
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Speaker 5: the football it's just not necessarily at the football.
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Speaker 1: So necessary.
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Speaker 5: Game. The football game where were where it's a football
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Speaker 5: game where we break.
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Speaker 7: The greatest of indigenous players compared to any other sport.
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Speaker 1: It's not it's a football game for goodness sake.
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Speaker 7: Or you'll be wanting to you wanting to close down.
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Speaker 1: There, neither of you.
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Speaker 5: Sporting games.
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Speaker 1: What it's not? Gentlemen, gentlemen, please, what is it for?
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Speaker 1: What is it for? I mean you say acknowledged history. Well,
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Speaker 1: I could acknowledge World War One, I could acknoledge World
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Speaker 1: War two. I acknowledge the invention of the combine harvester.
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Speaker 1: I could acknowledge the I think you're being specious, and
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Speaker 1: I could acknowledge invents coming in. I could acknowledge the breaks.
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Speaker 1: What is it for? I mean, this is the whole
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Speaker 1: ludicrous thing. No one really knows why they're doing it,
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Speaker 1: and they keep doing it, and it's getting more and
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Speaker 1: more stupid. Listen a brutal poll today, gentlemen, for the
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Speaker 1: Albanizi government in the Financial Review, Freshwater Pole and our
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Speaker 1: show's labor four points behind the coalition forty eight percent
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Speaker 1: to fifty two. And when you track all the polls,
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Speaker 1: not just this one. You see, it's been all downhill
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Speaker 1: for the government for a couple of years now. Stephen
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Speaker 1: can Albanizi afford pro minus Albinisi afford to wait until
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Speaker 1: next year before calling the election. If the trend is down, down, down, well, I.
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Speaker 7: Think the cost of living crisis that Australians are facing
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Speaker 7: is starting to really bite and the public. Now, I
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Speaker 7: think the government need to do more. We've got tax cuts,
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Speaker 7: we've got energy relief, we've got childcare relief, We've got
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Speaker 7: a whole package of measures, and the government needs to
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Speaker 7: not get caught up in distry actions like arguing about
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Speaker 7: a census question in two years time. It needs to
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Speaker 7: be staying focused on those issues so that Australians know
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Speaker 7: that the government is listening and it is putting in
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Speaker 7: place measures that are going to give some relief. Now,
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Speaker 7: the single greatest relief clear is a Reserve Bank. Absolutely.
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Speaker 7: I don't think there's any question that he'll go to
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Speaker 7: next year. The Reserve Bank need to start acknowledging reality.
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Speaker 7: You need to acknowledging that they're modeling their analysis is.
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Speaker 1: This pole shows it doesn't matter whether it's politically still,
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Speaker 1: it's not true and it's not We're still factually trajectory.
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Speaker 1: With this trajectory, can the Albanezy government afford to wait
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Speaker 1: until the next year before calling the election.
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Speaker 5: Well, he certainly can't call an election this year. He'd
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Speaker 5: looked like he was panicking. I mean, that would be
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Speaker 5: that would be absurd. And John Black, the former Labor
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Speaker 5: senator who's a very good analyst by the way, wrote
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Speaker 5: a very good article in the Financial Review today. If
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Speaker 5: you haven't read it, it's worth reading. Black also agrees
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Speaker 5: with what I said two weeks ago. As a former
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Speaker 5: Labour senator. He says Dutton's on seventy two seats. And
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Speaker 5: Black makes the very interesting observation about the preference distribution
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Speaker 5: in the Northern Territory seat of Fanny Bay. At the
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Speaker 5: Northern Terrify election, Lay became third normally Labour, would you know,
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Speaker 5: like Labour preference eighty percent of the Greens and vice versa,
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Speaker 5: only sixty seven percent of Labor preferences went to the Greens,
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Speaker 5: which tells you that the working middle class Labor Vada,
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Speaker 5: the old blue collar labor Vada, doesn't want to have
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Speaker 5: a bar of the Greens. And when Alberanzi announces that
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Speaker 5: he's preferencing the Greens. At the next election. His vote
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Speaker 5: won't be forty eight, it'll be less, and that's what
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Speaker 5: the Duton opposition should be concentrating from on. I think,
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Speaker 5: by the way, Andrew, I think for the first time
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Speaker 5: we can say that Peter Dutton's now. I think Peter
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Speaker 5: Dutton's probably favorite now to win the election. He may
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Speaker 5: not get to seventy five seventy six in his own right,
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Speaker 5: but he can cobble. He can cobble together three or
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Speaker 5: four independence probably to get supplying confidence to get to
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Speaker 5: seventy six. Albert's on sixty five or sixty seven. Black
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Speaker 5: says he's on sixty five. I think he's on sixty
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Speaker 5: seven something like that. I now think Peter Dutton's probably
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Speaker 5: favorite to win the election. The Albanezi government. Look, you've
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Speaker 5: got a second rate prime minister. He's got a poor ministry,
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Speaker 5: he's got a weak treasurer. Nothing he's done has worked.
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Speaker 5: He's a poor community cater. He over promised. He said
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Speaker 5: he had a plan for cost of living.
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Speaker 1: He didn't.
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Speaker 5: It'd saved to seventy five on your you didn't. He
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Speaker 5: wasted half a billion dollars on the voice, and people
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Speaker 5: thought this guy's an extremist.
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Speaker 1: Hey, you've called it here people, Yes, need to wait.
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Speaker 7: November thirteen, Omber sixteenth.
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Speaker 5: I think probably favorite. I think Peter Dutton's probably favorite.
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Speaker 7: Now to we market down on your calendar viewers, September sixteenth.
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Speaker 1: Michael, I've got to be other pretty right.
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Speaker 7: Let's see, you've got to get one right.
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Speaker 5: Things can change, But I think Dutton, I think is today.
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Speaker 5: You could say Dutton's probably favorite too.
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Speaker 1: Well, there you go, Okay, we'll shall see Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Conry, thank you very much for your time. Yet
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Speaker 1: another assassination attempt on Donald Trump. This is incredible. Two
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Speaker 1: in two months, and this one two months after a
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Speaker 1: bullet clipped his ear in an outdoor rally. This time
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Speaker 1: it was a Trump hater. Fifty eight year old Ryan
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Speaker 1: Wisley Ruth hid in the bushes at Trump's Florida golf course,
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Speaker 1: armed in an AK forty seven. That's an assault weapon,
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Speaker 1: waiting for Trump to come by.
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Speaker 6: The Secret Service agent that was on the course and
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Speaker 6: did a fantastic job. What they do is they have
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Speaker 6: an agent that jumps one hole ahead of time to
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Speaker 6: ward the president was out and he was able to
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Speaker 6: spot this rifle barrel sticking out of the fence and
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Speaker 6: immediately engage that individual, at which time the individual took on.
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Speaker 1: Now Ruth was arrested down the highway, and from his
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Speaker 1: past posting seems a little bit unhinged.
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Speaker 4: This is about good versus evil?
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Speaker 8: Do we stand for.
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Speaker 1: Good or do we just not care? Well? Ruth is
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Speaker 1: obsessed with Ukraine. He went there and to Washington claimed
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Speaker 1: to be organizing for more troops for that war. He
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Speaker 1: even offered to pay for a Polish plane to drop
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Speaker 1: a bomb of Vladimir Putin in his bed, joins the
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Speaker 1: country stop. Foreign affairs writer Greg Sheridan the Australian newspaper
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Speaker 1: grig two assassination attempts in this already crazy election. What
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Speaker 1: does this say about America and about American politics?
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Speaker 4: Well, Andrew, it's a very grave moment in American life.
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Speaker 4: And I think we can add to these two attempts
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Speaker 4: the foiled Iranian plot to assassinate Trump as well. The
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Speaker 4: American intelligence agencies revealed that and a Pakistani was arrested
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Speaker 4: allegedly acting on behalf of the Iranians in the early
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Speaker 4: stages of that plot.
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Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 4: It's wrong to say democratic politicians are responsible for extremists
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Speaker 4: if they are just engaging in robust criticism. But the
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Speaker 4: Democrats routinely lie about Trump. And I have no particular
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Speaker 4: brief for Trump at all, a lot of criticisms of him.
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Speaker 4: But they lie about Trump in a very extreme fashion.
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Speaker 4: For example, Kamala Harris said that Trump had said if
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Speaker 4: he loses the election, there will be a blood bath,
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Speaker 4: and most people would think that meant Trump said there'll
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Speaker 4: be killings and blood lettings and so on. What Trump
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Speaker 4: said was there'd be a blood bath in the auto industry.
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Speaker 1: So she is.
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Speaker 4: Intentionally dishonestly saying Trump threatened killings when he didn't. She
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Speaker 4: also said he praised neo Nazis in Charlotte's Bill as
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Speaker 4: very fine people. He didn't he condemned the neo Nazis,
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Speaker 4: but said on both sides of the demonstration about historic
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Speaker 4: statues in the South, there were very fine people. Now,
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Speaker 4: you tend to let this go. You know, you don't
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Speaker 4: have any great personal sympathy for Trump, and you tend
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Speaker 4: to let it go. But they lie about Trump in
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Speaker 4: such an extreme fashion. There's such bare faced lies that
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Speaker 4: there are two conclusions out of it. One, they are
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Speaker 4: no better and probably worse than Trump himself in producing
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Speaker 4: polarization and fever pitch in American society. And two, this
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Speaker 4: has got to contribute to an atmosphere, a fervid, intense
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Speaker 4: atmosphere in which some deranged people come to the conclusion
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Speaker 4: that America will just be better off without Trump. So
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Speaker 4: I think the anti Trump rhetoric of the Democrats, you
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Speaker 4: can't say that there's a direct, obvious causal link, but
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Speaker 4: it's extremely irresponsible and very very reprehensible in my view.
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Speaker 1: I note that the two moderators of that debate where
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris told those lies about Donald Trump and a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of others didn't fact check at once, while
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Speaker 1: the fact checked Trump within an inch of his life.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the bars was extraordinary. But talking about this bias, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I see that. MSNBC's the fault reaction today was to
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Speaker 1: somehow blame Donald Trump and his own rhetoric for yet
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Speaker 1: another person trying to kill him. Here they have a
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Speaker 1: look at this.
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Speaker 8: Do you expect there to be called from within the
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Speaker 8: Trump campaign to do that? Do you expect to hear
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Speaker 8: anything from the Trump campaign about toning down the rhetoric,
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Speaker 8: toning down the violence.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, Greg, it seems like the leftist media have got
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Speaker 1: in their heads that the only violent people in the
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Speaker 1: world are right wingers, and if violence happens and even
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Speaker 1: left wingers did it, it's still the right's fault. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So, you know, Trump has done a lot of in
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Speaker 4: my view, reprehensible things and said a lot of foolish
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Speaker 4: things and extreme things, but that doesn't give you a
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Speaker 4: right in denouncing Trump to go even worse than he
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Speaker 4: has gone. So people, you know, the Democrats tell lie
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Speaker 4: after lie after lie about Trump and present him, as
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Speaker 4: they did at the National Convention, as the greatest threat
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Speaker 4: to democracy in American history. They paint him as the
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Speaker 4: author of American fascism, as an extremist, as a dictator,
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Speaker 4: as the end of democracy. And then someone is violent
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Speaker 4: towards Trump, and they say that's all Trump's fault. So
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Speaker 4: there's no responsibility on the Democrat side at all. And sadly,
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Speaker 4: the media in America is failing America not only by
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Speaker 4: its double standards, but for example, those ABC debate moderators
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Speaker 4: who I thought were absolutely reprehensible a disgrace to the
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Speaker 4: journalistic profession and utter disgrace. They didn't mention the fact
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Speaker 4: that this year the US budget deficit will be two
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Speaker 4: trillion dollars. Interest payments are already greater than the defense budget.
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Speaker 4: You might think that would be an issue worth mentioning.
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Speaker 4: Instead of which, they wanted to afford Harris every opportunity
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Speaker 4: to condemn Trump's rhetoric, and they wanted to force Trump
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Speaker 4: to admit that he had that he'd said things he
22:26
Speaker 4: should apologize for.
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Speaker 1: And Greg, just one last thing about this assassination attempt.
22:34
Speaker 1: You're quite right. I mean, this guy, look at his
22:36
Speaker 1: social media posts, is uninjured, but it's repeating all the
22:39
Speaker 1: basically the attack loans on Trump. It's like the Democrats saying,
22:43
Speaker 1: what you mean you took them seriously? Oh heaven forbid. Meanwhile,
22:49
Speaker 1: you've actually got this guy being a real supporter of
22:54
Speaker 1: Ukraine as am I but I just wonder how this
22:58
Speaker 1: is going to play to the far right base, the
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Speaker 1: things Ukraine is evil and here's this guy sent to
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Speaker 1: kill or I don't know how they would phrase it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's extremely obnoxious. I mean I've got a column
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Speaker 4: about this in tomorrow's paper. Sadly, now there are deranged
23:15
Speaker 4: people on the left, derange people on the right, and
23:19
Speaker 4: people who are just free floating deranged waiting to find
23:22
Speaker 4: a cause to fixate on. Now, all political leaders, I
23:25
Speaker 4: think have a responsibility to speak in a decent manner.
23:30
Speaker 4: Trump often doesn't do that, that's true, But all of
23:33
Speaker 4: these Democrats who who don't use Trump's vulgar language are
23:38
Speaker 4: nonetheless promoting their own version of extremism. You know, one
23:43
Speaker 4: of the most brilliant insights I ever heard into democratic
23:46
Speaker 4: politics came from Kim Beasley, who once remarked, it takes
23:49
Speaker 4: a good deal of apathy to run a successful democracy.
23:52
Speaker 4: You want people to regard their religion as their religion
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Speaker 4: and their politics as their politics. You want sport to
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Speaker 4: be on the front page of the new newspapers and
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Speaker 4: when everything becomes a fervid moral crusade. And for the
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Speaker 4: left of American politics, you know, left wing causes are
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Speaker 4: their new religion. But I mean the right is equally
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Speaker 4: as bad. You will get a horrible, you know, breakdown
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Speaker 4: of basic apprehension of reality. People can't understand reality. I mean,
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Speaker 4: this guy's derangement has nothing to do with Ukraine, but
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Speaker 4: you're quite right. This will feed into you know, swamp
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Speaker 4: lands on the far right on social media, and it'll
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Speaker 4: become a plot by Ukraine amongst some people. This is
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Speaker 4: really a tragic moment in American life.
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Speaker 1: It is so depressing, it is and look you've said it,
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Speaker 1: Greg Sheridan, thank you so much, a d for your time.
24:51
Speaker 1: After the break, the ABC is in yet another scandal
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Speaker 1: how it docted a video and made an Australian soul
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Speaker 1: you seem like a war crew. Law speak to that
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Speaker 1: soldier after this. The NBC is involved in yet another scandal,
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Speaker 1: this time somehow doctor and video in a way that
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Speaker 1: made a Special Forces soldier Heston Russell seem a war
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Speaker 1: criminal firing six shots and unarmed Afghan civilians. What is
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Speaker 1: the EBC trying to do to Russell and why now?
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Speaker 1: The obviously last year already been found guilty of defaming
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Speaker 1: him after accusing Russell of having had an Afghan prisoner shot.
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Speaker 1: Its evidence was trash and it had to pay Russell
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Speaker 1: nearly four hundred thousand dollars. But during that case, Russell's
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Speaker 1: lawyers handed over to the ABC video shot by him
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Speaker 1: and his unit little cameras on the helmets in an
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Speaker 1: operation in Afghanistan where they came under fire from a
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Speaker 1: couple of Afghans. They tracked one of them, one of
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Speaker 1: the shooters running back to a compound, and fired a
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Speaker 1: warning shot to make him stop, as Russell told Channel
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Speaker 1: A seven's Spotlight Show last night, But then that Afghan
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Speaker 1: seemed to pick up another gun.
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Speaker 9: After the warning shot. This insurgent has run into a
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Speaker 9: compound and the drone has witnessed him bend over and
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Speaker 9: pick up something. He's picked up something that looks like
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Speaker 9: a weapon. And you'll hear me telling my soldier shoot him,
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Speaker 9: shoot him. We listen closely, you'll hear that. Then you'll
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Speaker 9: see that's the footage of my guy shooting at him
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Speaker 9: in the compound.
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Speaker 1: But the ABC doctored that take to make it seem
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Speaker 1: that Hessen Russell himself was all along firing all the
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Speaker 1: shots you just heard at the end, big bang at
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Speaker 1: at unarmed civilians, as it seemed in the first shot
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Speaker 1: the warning shot scene. And by the way, the gunner
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Speaker 1: wasn't even Rustle, but another man.
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Speaker 9: We don't have the vision that comes immediately before this,
27:08
Speaker 9: but this Australian soldier is firing towards what appear to
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Speaker 9: be unarmed civilians in residential compounds.
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Speaker 1: The footage had been doctored so that the latest shots
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Speaker 1: were added to the warning shot. It was incredible the version.
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Speaker 10: Of events told by the ABC's Mark Willison, which starts
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Speaker 10: with six rounds of firing, then the single warning shot
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Speaker 10: becomes six.
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Speaker 1: To me, it appears some of these things they've literally
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Speaker 1: added extra gunshots. Now, the ABC says, wops, it's to
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Speaker 1: remove the online video where an error has been identified
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Speaker 1: and admitted based on a preliminary inspection of the audio.
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Speaker 1: The ABC is seeking more information on how this occurred.
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Speaker 1: It insists this era had nothing to do with the
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Speaker 1: reporter Mark Willisy or the producer joining me is Estheron Russell, Yes,
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Speaker 1: and what me you've gone through? Has the ABC given
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Speaker 1: any explanation to you for this or offered any apology?
28:20
Speaker 1: Get Andrew No.
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Speaker 9: And I've written to Kim Williams, the new ABC Chair
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Speaker 9: of A Night, asked to commit with him discuss this.
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Speaker 9: And one thing I like to make perfectly clear is
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Speaker 9: one they've changed the footage to add those gunshots, but
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Speaker 9: two they are provided with the entire five minutes worth
28:37
Speaker 9: of helmet cam footage that shows after that engagement, me
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Speaker 9: and my signal of land go and try and capture
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Speaker 9: this person and then get ambushed and shot at by
28:45
Speaker 9: these insurgents. So if the ABC wants to say, hey,
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Speaker 9: Mark Willisey Joe Puccini were involved in this editing, that's fine,
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Speaker 9: But the whole story is completely wrong. And they've had
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Speaker 9: the full footage for nearly eighteen months since April last year,
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Speaker 9: and they've no attempt in what I say. They tried
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Speaker 9: to frame me and my soldiers for their own alleged
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Speaker 9: war crime.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's weird. You know, either they didn't watch all
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Speaker 1: this critical video before making the story, which seems very slack,
29:15
Speaker 1: or they did see it now they didn't understand it
29:17
Speaker 1: or twist it or whatever's it's The whole thing is weird,
29:20
Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear an explanation. What difference to
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Speaker 1: you did that editing of that tape make massively?
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Speaker 9: From a psychological perspective, I never truly appreciated how much
29:34
Speaker 9: this would impact me until I saw that footage. I
29:37
Speaker 9: broke it down, and I went to my original helmet
29:39
Speaker 9: camera footage and saw that they had edited and added
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Speaker 9: those gunshots and there was a moment where it just
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Speaker 9: broke me to realize that, you know, I was in
29:47
Speaker 9: the Federal court fighting them on defamation, you know, by
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Speaker 9: our democratic laws of the land, and this giant at
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Speaker 9: one point four billion dollar beast I was up against,
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Speaker 9: funded by every Australian taxpayer, was willing to go to
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Speaker 9: the links to footage and add gunshots in order to
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Speaker 9: try and slam me and try and win in their
30:05
Speaker 9: fight against me. That's when I sort of realized that
30:08
Speaker 9: those values, you know, and those freedoms that we saw
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Speaker 9: the spouse that veterans go on fight for don't mean
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Speaker 9: anything back home when you take on the ABC to
30:17
Speaker 9: prove them wrong.
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Speaker 1: So one rawning shot at a man who had shot
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Speaker 1: at your troops is turned into six shots armed at
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Speaker 1: unarmed men, unarmed civilians. According to them, it's really just
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Speaker 1: so extraordinary. I mean, I'm laughing, but I shouldn't. I mean,
30:38
Speaker 1: this must have been devastating for you and for your
30:41
Speaker 1: mum and for your friends as well. Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and particularly when we gave them the full footage
30:47
Speaker 9: that shows us then inserting out of the helicopter going
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Speaker 9: to capture this dude and getting in a fire fight
30:53
Speaker 9: for them, Like I was sitting there and I had
30:54
Speaker 9: to show my mum that raw footage of me getting
30:56
Speaker 9: shot at. Like the ABC has that footage, it clearly
31:00
Speaker 9: shows that they weren't unarmed anyone. And yet for eighteen
31:04
Speaker 9: months they allowed that narrative that it was simply indiscriminate
31:07
Speaker 9: shooting at unarmed civilians from a helicopter to be up
31:11
Speaker 9: on their website, getting all the views and the narrative
31:14
Speaker 9: carried on by others, including The Guardian. Plus they went
31:17
Speaker 9: as far as adding extra gunshots to reinforce their fantasy narrative.
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Speaker 1: So what needs to be done now?
31:27
Speaker 9: Look, I've asked to meet with Kim Williams, and if
31:28
Speaker 9: I don't meet with him, then there's a whole raft
31:30
Speaker 9: of new legal procedures, including criminal defamation I can pursue.
31:34
Speaker 9: And the biggest thing, also Andrew, and for your viewers,
31:37
Speaker 9: is where is the Department of Defense mate this footage
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Speaker 9: and all the communications between myself, the helicopter, the drones.
31:44
Speaker 9: This entire engagement is recorded on the Department of Defense archives.
31:48
Speaker 9: Department of Defense. Commonwealth lawyers sat in my federal court
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Speaker 9: case and were exposed to this helmet cam footage as well,
31:55
Speaker 9: and at no point have they stood up to defend me,
31:58
Speaker 9: my souldiers, my family reached you had to offer support.
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Speaker 9: Why am I a veteran deployed to astral by Australia
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Speaker 9: to Afghanistan biting the ABC on this in the federal court,
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Speaker 9: in the court of public opinion without any support from
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Speaker 9: the Department of Defense who ordered me to go over
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Speaker 9: there and to conduct these operations with my soldiers.
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Speaker 1: That is absolutely disgusting. I mean, if I make a mistake,
32:21
Speaker 1: my employees sticks with me. If I don't make a
32:24
Speaker 1: mistake and defame my employee sticks with me. You didn't
32:27
Speaker 1: make a mistake. Where's this strained defense for us?
32:30
Speaker 4: Now?
32:30
Speaker 1: I wonder that's trouble recruiting people, Hesson and Russell. It's
32:33
Speaker 1: just a disgrace. I'm so glad that you've had the
32:37
Speaker 1: strength and character and put your money on the line
32:41
Speaker 1: to clear your name with the ABC. You might have
32:45
Speaker 1: to do it all over again, I'm afraid, but good
32:48
Speaker 1: on you. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Speaker 9: Thank you, Edder, appreciate support.
32:52
Speaker 1: See can you believe that? Can you believe that the
32:56
Speaker 1: ABC and the Department of Defense? After the break, Liberal
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Speaker 1: leader in court today after allegedly spearing one of his
33:03
Speaker 1: own MP's is associate of Nazis. I mean unbelievable and
33:10
Speaker 1: it's a case that a Paul Peter Dutton as well
33:13
Speaker 1: more after this three years ago Vittura and Opposition leader
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Speaker 1: John Pursuito paniced was weak in my opinion, and today
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Speaker 1: is in court because of it. He's being sued for
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Speaker 1: defamation by more Redeeming an MP since expelled from the
33:30
Speaker 1: Liberal cork the party room, in a case that could
33:33
Speaker 1: cost pursuit Of a lot of money and his job. Now,
33:37
Speaker 1: the evidence of day one of this case today would
33:39
Speaker 1: have been very uncomfortable for the Liberal leader, but it
33:41
Speaker 1: should also shame the journalists who scared him into doing
33:43
Speaker 1: something I said at the time were stupid, weak and unprincipled.
33:47
Speaker 1: Deeming back then had spoken at a let Women Speak
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Speaker 1: rarely at Parliament House organized around British women's right activist
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Speaker 1: Kelly Jane Keen on a visit here she's here in
33:58
Speaker 1: yellow to argue that logical women should have safe spaces,
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Speaker 1: that trans women were indeed different, but their rally was
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Speaker 1: crashed by neo Nazi morons who flashed the Hitler salute
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Speaker 1: that's now band of Victoria. So I've had to blur it.
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Speaker 1: As Deming's lawyers, who chrisanthw said today in court, any
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Speaker 1: educated person with a fully functioning mind would have had
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Speaker 1: to know that Deeming and the rest of the Let
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Speaker 1: Women Speak activists would not have wanted those neo Nazis
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Speaker 1: to crash their rally. She said, it is incomprehensible that
34:30
Speaker 1: a group of Nazis talking about pedophiles and doing the
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Speaker 1: Nazi salute. Could we lay to the feed of my
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Speaker 1: client or the women who organized this rally, No educated
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Speaker 1: person with a functioning mind, which seriously she said, nazis
34:44
Speaker 1: supporting Let Women Speak. Yet that's exactly what Persudo did suggest.
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Speaker 1: Chris Andrew showed texts, he sent interviews, he gave statements
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Speaker 1: he made or accusing Deeming of associated with Nazis or
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Speaker 1: Nazi supporters and pushing to have her kicked out of
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Speaker 1: the party. Now, to repeat the crux of this case,
35:07
Speaker 1: Nazis men Nazis disrupt women's rally and Pursudo attacks the
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Speaker 1: women Deeming, especially claiming the associated with the Nazis. In fact,
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Speaker 1: this has been forced to apologize to Keilly J. King
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Speaker 1: sat for claiming she'd know and knowingly associated with the
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Speaker 1: Nazis as well. It's the whole thing is such a disaster.
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Speaker 1: Now I know that Persudo had Labor Premier Daniel Andrews
35:31
Speaker 1: and many in the media exploit this Nazi ambush. Oh,
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Speaker 1: you've got to do something attacking Deeming, putting pressure on
35:36
Speaker 1: Pursudo to join the pack attack. But seriously, in the end,
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Speaker 1: it was Persudo's call to give in, and now a
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Speaker 1: judge will decide whether he did. Define Deeming Now sitting
35:46
Speaker 1: Apartiament is an independent and the Liberal Party has said
35:49
Speaker 1: all the bills are pursudos not the parties. Join me.
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Speaker 1: Daniel Wild, Deputy executive director in Institute of Public Affairs,
35:56
Speaker 1: and Stephen Chavoura, an author and senior lecturer in history
35:59
Speaker 1: at Campion College. Daniel Wild, let's not talk about the
36:03
Speaker 1: case itself or the evidence today. I guess the judge
36:06
Speaker 1: you'll have to decide to that. Just the political ramifications.
36:09
Speaker 1: The next election two years away, Liberals are our head
36:12
Speaker 1: of labor in the polls amazingly so, how damaging is
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Speaker 1: this case that the Liberals and to PURSUITO personally?
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Speaker 11: It could be very damaging Andrew. I think there's three
36:22
Speaker 11: political elements to this. Firstly, it could cost the Victorian
36:25
Speaker 11: Liberals the election. Secondly, it could cost the federal coalition
36:29
Speaker 11: the federal election. And thirdly, this is something that's going
36:33
Speaker 11: to continue now for a number of months and could
36:36
Speaker 11: prompt a federal takeover of the Victorian Liberal division as
36:39
Speaker 11: we've seen in New South Wales. As you rightly say,
36:43
Speaker 11: despite all this, the Victorian Liberals are ahead in the polls.
36:45
Speaker 11: That is largely a reflection of just how bad this
36:48
Speaker 11: government is in Victoria, Andrew. It's driving the state off
36:51
Speaker 11: a cliff when you look at the economy, how divided
36:53
Speaker 11: the society is. The trust and confidence in politics is
36:57
Speaker 11: so low. So that's what's bringing down the labor vote.
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Speaker 11: And as you say before as well, I think what
37:02
Speaker 11: happened is Daniel Andrews really played it like a fiddle
37:05
Speaker 11: in terms of getting them into this position. So I
37:07
Speaker 11: think there could be very long term political consequences. The
37:11
Speaker 11: thing that saves the Liberals are the amount of time
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Speaker 11: till the next election. There's two years and so the
37:15
Speaker 11: typical person is not plugged into it. And like I say,
37:18
Speaker 11: the massive failure of the Victorian labor government is what's
37:20
Speaker 11: keeping their head above Waterer.
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Speaker 1: It's certainly, certainly Stephen Chavura. How pursuit a reactor is
37:28
Speaker 1: worried a lot of Liberal politicians, not just in his
37:31
Speaker 1: state team. I mean you've had Sarah Henderson, the federal
37:36
Speaker 1: Liberal spokesman, saying, you know, give him a break. The
37:39
Speaker 1: court today was also told Federals a bit of Dutton
37:42
Speaker 1: trying to win at that time the by election of
37:44
Speaker 1: Victoria's seed of Asslen Texas pursuito John for the sake
37:47
Speaker 1: of Asson, could you please put this issue to bed today?
37:50
Speaker 1: No more media please, but On it went, well, that's right,
37:56
Speaker 1: and look what I've just been blunt.
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Speaker 3: One of the problems with the Liberal Party in Australia
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Speaker 3: is that it has too many people like John Persudo,
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Speaker 3: who are really left leaning progressives who call themselves liberals.
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Speaker 1: So, I mean, what was Moira's crime?
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Speaker 3: According to Persuto, it was Moira associating with people who
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Speaker 3: associated with Nazis. So it wasn't that Moira had said anything.
38:19
Speaker 3: It wasn't even that she had directly associated with Nazis.
38:21
Speaker 3: Now Persuto calls himself a liberal, and yet he wanted
38:24
Speaker 3: it kicked out of the party for an association two
38:27
Speaker 3: degrees apart. There's nothing liberal about that chills free speech.
38:31
Speaker 3: It's an assault on freedom of association.
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Speaker 1: He knows nothing of liberalism.
38:35
Speaker 3: And the longer he is in the party he has
38:37
Speaker 3: a liability to the party and all of those like him.
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Speaker 9: He needs to go.
38:43
Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 1: I hope it's learned his lesson, but gizing be a
38:46
Speaker 1: brutal way of doing it, and I don't know what
38:48
Speaker 1: it's going to cost him. Yeah, the whole thing's so crazy.
38:50
Speaker 1: I was once attacked in the street. Are two guys
38:54
Speaker 1: from Antifa? Does that mean I'm associated with antifas? Seriously, now, Daniel,
38:59
Speaker 1: I talk so at the top of the show about
39:01
Speaker 1: these Work of the Country ceremonies. I am sure they
39:05
Speaker 1: were initially intended to do good. But let me ask
39:09
Speaker 1: you what the first panel couldn't answer. What good is
39:13
Speaker 1: it supposed to do? And is it doing it well?
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Speaker 11: I think it's designed to do any good Andrew, that's
39:22
Speaker 11: the issue with it. And you know, here we go again.
39:24
Speaker 11: We're talking about this similar issue last week when I
39:27
Speaker 11: said that there's a crisis of democracy in Australia because
39:29
Speaker 11: Australians voted against this sixty percent in the Voice to
39:33
Speaker 11: Parliament referendum to not divide our country by race, and
39:37
Speaker 11: we're seeing it every single day, these welcome to country
39:40
Speaker 11: gestures which have infected so many parts of our society.
39:43
Speaker 11: I think there's a time and a place for them,
39:45
Speaker 11: but the time is not before every single football match,
39:48
Speaker 11: which is what many fans have to endure. And I
39:50
Speaker 11: think the reality is that Australian's had a gutfull of
39:53
Speaker 11: this of being divided. The AFLA is perhaps the wokest
39:57
Speaker 11: sporting organization in the country. It's not even really a
39:59
Speaker 11: sporting organized anymore, Andrew, it's more of a political campaign organization.
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Speaker 11: As you know, they were vehemently in favor of racial
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Speaker 11: division in supporting the Voice to Parliament. Most of the
40:09
Speaker 11: football clubs themselves were in favor of it, even though
40:11
Speaker 11: the majority of the sporting community and the majority of Australians,
40:15
Speaker 11: the vast majority of Australians opposed it. And so once
40:18
Speaker 11: again we see that mainstream Australians are not only being
40:21
Speaker 11: ignored by the political class, but they're having these views
40:25
Speaker 11: shoved down their throat every single sporting event or community event.
40:29
Speaker 11: That they go to. So I think a lot of
40:30
Speaker 11: people are getting to the end of their tether and
40:32
Speaker 11: the good will that exists out there is being drained
40:35
Speaker 11: out of our society because of this division.
40:39
Speaker 1: That's exactly correct. It's like the voice that ended up
40:42
Speaker 1: being a complete own goal that did more harm than good,
40:45
Speaker 1: including to the professed scores. But again, even you couldn't
40:49
Speaker 1: answer this Thingiel's ask Stephen, what is the good the
40:53
Speaker 1: welcome to country ceremonies are supposed to do? In what
40:57
Speaker 1: way are they supposed to help?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think they would say that they are supposed
41:02
Speaker 3: to facilitate reconciliation, good relations between Indigenous and non indigenous.
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Speaker 7: You know, you're welcome to our land.
41:10
Speaker 3: But of course it doesn't. It promotes the exact opposite,
41:13
Speaker 3: and I think it's actually I agree with Daniel. I
41:15
Speaker 3: think it's really designed to promote the exact opposite. I
41:17
Speaker 3: see them as basically acts of passive aggression. You don't
41:21
Speaker 3: welcome someone to their own home, and so whenever you
41:24
Speaker 3: have a welcome to country, it is effectively that Indigenous
41:27
Speaker 3: Australian saying you are an outsider.
41:29
Speaker 9: You are in our land.
41:31
Speaker 3: We own this land, we decide whether or not you
41:34
Speaker 3: are welcome. According to their own testimony, these were the
41:38
Speaker 3: customs between tribes who may previously have been at war.
41:41
Speaker 3: It's a declaration of separation. It is not a declaration
41:45
Speaker 3: of reconciliation or unity at all.
41:50
Speaker 1: I know, if I have guests staying with me, I
41:52
Speaker 1: don't every morning say and now I welcome you into
41:55
Speaker 1: the living room, I welcome you into the kitchen. I
41:58
Speaker 1: mean that does That is not a welcome. I mean
42:01
Speaker 1: no matter how often the more I say it, the
42:04
Speaker 1: less welcome they will feel. What I say is make
42:06
Speaker 1: yourself at home, help yourself to anything. I'm not going
42:09
Speaker 1: to keep asking you, and that should be the case here.
42:11
Speaker 1: It's simple good manners, Daniel. I see you're at Man, Isaac.
42:16
Speaker 1: What are you doing trying to dig for some next
42:18
Speaker 1: year's funding grant for the IPA.
42:24
Speaker 11: Well, what we're doing in Man ISAA. Andrew is talking
42:27
Speaker 11: to the locals about the need for a special economic
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Speaker 11: zone up the north and talking about the issues of
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Speaker 11: the city based politicians ignoring regional Australia. I've talked with
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Speaker 11: you from a lot of locations across the country and
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Speaker 11: the issues for example of net zero with just the
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Speaker 11: absolute scattering of the solar factories and concrete wind towers
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Speaker 11: and the high tension, high voltage lines through regional community.
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Speaker 11: So this is a part of that ongoing effort that
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Speaker 11: we're having to communicate on research into the public and
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Speaker 11: to say, look, we actually need to build the economy
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Speaker 11: and build the national security presence of this important region.
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Speaker 1: Well, I see you've lost your tire somewhere between Melbourne
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Speaker 1: and Mount Asa. Good move. While Stephen Travura, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for your time. After the break. Another British
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Speaker 1: rape game jailed and once again with something in common
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Speaker 1: why that matters? After this? Right across Europe, voters are
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Speaker 1: getting sick of illegal immigration. In Britain, twenty two thousand
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Speaker 1: boat people have crossover the channel just this year so far,
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Speaker 1: and new Labor Prome Miiseu Starmer is talking to the
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Speaker 1: right wing Italian Prime minister about joining her scheme to
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Speaker 1: send illegal immigrants to Albania. And that's the kind of
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Speaker 1: thing Tony Avia did here. Remember he sent a legal
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Speaker 1: boat people to Naaru and Papua New Guinea, and boy
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Speaker 1: was he monstered for that by the left. But now
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Speaker 1: labor here and labor there both thinking hmm, makes sense
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Speaker 1: after all, reminds me of a truism. The difference between
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Speaker 1: the conserv and someone of the lefties. Time join me
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Speaker 1: from London is right? Broadcasting columns, it's crack. It's so
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Speaker 1: lovely to see you again. But how does this work?
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Speaker 1: Your prem minister actually killed the previous government's planned the
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Speaker 1: same boat people to Rwanda. Now is thinking, oh, Baynier
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Speaker 1: is better. Why is orbany better than Africa?
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Speaker 12: Well, only God knows. The penny has finally dropped.
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Speaker 13: I mean, I think his argument is that this is
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Speaker 13: a europe wide initiative, so somehow that makes it more moral,
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Speaker 13: even though the principle of actually sending people to a
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Speaker 13: third country for processing still stands. I think, you know,
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Speaker 13: it became clear that we were going down the same
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Speaker 13: route of sort of the war on drugs, which is
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Speaker 13: we're trying to spend all this money to cut the
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Speaker 13: supply of people offering in this case boat crossings, when.
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Speaker 12: In reality you have to cut the demand.
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Speaker 13: You have to make sure that people are not risking
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Speaker 13: their lives to go on this journey and then being
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Speaker 13: rewarded for it by by ending up being granted asylum
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Speaker 13: or being given refuge in these countries, and.
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Speaker 12: I think the penny is starting to drop.
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Speaker 13: These smuggling gangs make hundreds of thousands of pounds a
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Speaker 13: month from this.
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Speaker 12: You know, this idea that you're going.
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Speaker 13: To smash the gang, as if the gangs, as if
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Speaker 13: there's some sort of cadre of sophisticates.
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Speaker 12: It's hilarious. These are not Albert Einstein's. They're people with
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Speaker 12: inflatable boats and torchlights.
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Speaker 13: Anyone literally, a monkey with with with symbols could do this,
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Speaker 13: and I think it's it's the penny is starting to drop.
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Speaker 12: I mean, you got our Home.
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Speaker 13: Secretary said she doesn't actually know when boat crossings are
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Speaker 13: going to fall. So the idea that this is now
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Speaker 13: being handled by the adults in the room is laughable.
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Speaker 13: The new Labor government are a bunch of incompetence and
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Speaker 13: they know this, and they know that their only option
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Speaker 13: is to do what the Tories try to do, which
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Speaker 13: is send them to a third country for processing, which
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Speaker 13: I'm sure many much of Europe is going to now
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Speaker 13: follow Suton.
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Speaker 1: To me, it sounds a little bit racist that they
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Speaker 1: send them to European country or if you you know,
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Speaker 1: Bainia just clings on those fingertips. That's fine. Send them
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Speaker 1: to an African country, that's bad. I don't know what's
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Speaker 1: going on there is the One of the things that
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Speaker 1: has turned so many British photos against mass immigration are
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Speaker 1: the sex of you rings that have been praying on
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Speaker 1: young girls, particularly working class Yorkshire. This has been a
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Speaker 1: scandal that's been unfolded arcat remember for a decade now,
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Speaker 1: with police and out of authorities notoriously often revealed as
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Speaker 1: having been too scared of seeming racist to anti Muslim
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Speaker 1: to fight them. But now another rape ring has been jailed,
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Speaker 1: only seven men this time, but once again with something
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Speaker 1: very familiar in common. Simply look at their faces tells
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Speaker 1: you the story. What is the problem here, Well, the.
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Speaker 13: Problem is the fact that we're seeing ten years after
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Speaker 13: the publication of the Jay reports would show that over
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Speaker 13: fourteen hundred girls in northern England were being abused by
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Speaker 13: these grooming gangs.
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Speaker 12: People are still being jailed now.
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Speaker 13: These seven people have just been convicted in Sheffield County
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Speaker 13: Court Crown Court. Now I just like to read to
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Speaker 13: you the names of these people, so make of that
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Speaker 13: what you will. Mohammad Amar, Mohammad, Sia Yaser, Ajaiba Mohammad
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Speaker 13: Zamir Sadik a bid Sadik Ta hear you're.
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Speaker 12: Seeing and Ramain Bari. So make of that what you will.
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Speaker 13: But the fact that these girls were abused, and they
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Speaker 13: were between the ages of eleven and fifteen between two
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Speaker 13: thousand and three and two thousand and eight, and their
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Speaker 13: perpetrators are now coming to.
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Speaker 12: Justice and there's still more cases.
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Speaker 13: Ongoing, And the fact that for years this was ignored
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Speaker 13: not only by the political media class, but by the
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Speaker 13: police officers that were supposed to.
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Speaker 12: Protect them because they didn't want to see racist.
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Speaker 13: I mean, it just shows how fundamentally broken this country
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Speaker 13: really is, not just in terms of law and order,
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Speaker 13: but also in terms of the culture around actually protecting
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Speaker 13: the most vulnerable in society.
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Speaker 12: Some of these girls were in foster care when they
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Speaker 12: were being abused. I mean, this is the extense to
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Speaker 12: which the Young Peace was exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But honestly, the way see right there that you
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Speaker 1: were reluctant and I'm hesitantd in actually naming exactly what's
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Speaker 1: going on religion, et cetera, et cetera, tells us we're
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Speaker 1: part of the problem. We've got all these legal restraints
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Speaker 1: on being able to report these things, and that's how
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Speaker 1: that's how it has helped the defender so long.
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Speaker 13: Well yeah, I mean the only reason why I can
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Speaker 13: report this is because the BBC actually published the names
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Speaker 13: of of these people. But the reality is statistically, even
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Speaker 13: though statistically the highest number of grooming, the most likely
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Speaker 13: people that are likely to groom people are white men,
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Speaker 13: you know, South Asians, people of South Asian heritage.
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Speaker 12: Highly Over've got to go.
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Speaker 1: I'm afraid this got to go. I'm afraid this but
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Speaker 1: thank you so much indeed for your time as always.
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Speaker 1: Must give me more time next week. That's it from me,
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Speaker 1: coming up now, Sherry Max and good night.