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The Rita Panahi Show | 9 June · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scoring lids Australia. This is the Reader Paney Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panehy Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, Jasin to Alan dragging down Victorian Labor, but
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  Speaker 2: the premier insists she is not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: The panel will join me to discuss that.
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  Speaker 2: In the day's other top headlines, James Campbell spends seventy
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  Speaker 2: two hours on the road with One Nation leader Pauline.
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  Speaker 3: Hanson and is shocked by what he sees. He will
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  Speaker 3: join me at the desk shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Kosher Gator will have the latest from the US, including
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  Speaker 2: the Shenanigans in LA and President Donald Trump in the.
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  Speaker 3: Crowd for Game three of the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Stein will speak about the controversy surrounding that later
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  Speaker 2: in the hour, and Left Is Losing It features New
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  Speaker 2: York City Council holding a pride ball. But first new
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  Speaker 2: polling shows Jacinta Allen's Labor Party is in a world
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  Speaker 2: of trouble. Less than six months out from the state election,
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  Speaker 2: Labour's primary vote has slummed to just twenty three percent.
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  Speaker 2: That's fourteen points lower than at the twenty twenty two election.
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  Speaker 2: The question is whether this poll will be the trigger
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  Speaker 2: for Labor to replace the premiere. The latest data from
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  Speaker 2: Freshwater Strategy shows that there's not much love for the
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  Speaker 2: vic Libs either. The Coalition's vote felt three points to
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven percent, while One Nation rose five points to
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  Speaker 2: twenty five percent.
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  Speaker 3: On a two party per ThReD.
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  Speaker 2: Basis, the Coalition now leads Labour fifty three to forty seven,
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  Speaker 2: but that would all change if Premier Justin to Allen
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  Speaker 2: was replaced by her deputy Ben Carroll. Premier Allen's personal
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  Speaker 2: approval rating is circling the drain, sitting at negative thirty
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  Speaker 2: seven percent, negative thirty seven and six percent voters believe
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  Speaker 2: Premier Allen should be replaced ahead of the election. That
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  Speaker 2: includes thirty nine percent of Labor voters, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the crucial number.
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  Speaker 3: Nearly a third of voters said.
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  Speaker 2: A leadership change would make them more likely to back
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  Speaker 2: Labor at the election. Fifty seven percent said it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: make any sort of difference. Joining me now for more
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  Speaker 2: on this is News Corps senior writer Patrick Carline and
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  Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harkin.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick, this is huge.
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  Speaker 2: One in three voters more likely to back labor if
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  Speaker 2: they get rid of the anchor that is just into alent.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I think she's gone, isn't she Really? She's going
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  Speaker 4: to struggle to win your own seat. I mean she
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  Speaker 4: is unpopular with everyone, including labor voters, and I think
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  Speaker 4: Labor on those numbers, when you're at twenty three percent,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to win anything and you're going to
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  Speaker 4: lose an awful lot. So I think we will see
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  Speaker 4: these this polling sort of propel a change of leadership
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  Speaker 4: coming days or week. You'll probably get Ben Carroll, who's
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  Speaker 4: a bit more right.
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  Speaker 5: He's not quite as wrapped up.
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  Speaker 4: He's not sort of held to ransom by the ideological
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  Speaker 4: indulgences that have really smashed Victorians for so long. So
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  Speaker 4: I think it's the only way to go for Later
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  Speaker 4: at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they'll make that call.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big call to replace the premiere Colleen, but
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  Speaker 2: she is dragging them down.
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  Speaker 3: This is not the only poll that indicates that.
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  Speaker 2: And the labor left faction, the socialist left faction that
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  Speaker 2: runs the show in Victoria, will they be able to
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  Speaker 2: have someone from the right faction leading them, because internally
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be an issue.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean, there's been talk about replacing just
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  Speaker 6: Cindre elland for almost a year on and off. A
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  Speaker 6: negative thirty seven is very difficult to come back from.
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  Speaker 6: You know, people have survived for periods of time with
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  Speaker 6: that level of negative approval rating Julia Gillar, Tony Abbott.
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  Speaker 6: There's been numbers of people who have been at negative
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  Speaker 6: thirty five or there for a period of time, but
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  Speaker 6: they eventually get rolled. It's difficult to see how she
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  Speaker 6: can survive this. I'm not sure though, that a change
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  Speaker 6: of leader is going to solve the problems, because Victoria
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  Speaker 6: is looking at eleven years of a disastrous government. The crime,
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  Speaker 6: the corruption, the cost of living, blowouts. You know, I
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  Speaker 6: think people are looking at a genuine wish for an alternative,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm not sure that just a change of face
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  Speaker 6: will be enough. If they're going to do it, they
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  Speaker 6: have to do it soon, because the election's only six
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  Speaker 6: months away, and so if they do it too soon,
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  Speaker 6: there is time for people to recalibrate again. So it's tricky.
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  Speaker 3: Give it labor part.
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  Speaker 2: How low a profile senior labor figures have had in
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  Speaker 2: this state really other than the premiere.
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  Speaker 3: If you went outside and.
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  Speaker 2: Polled your regular Victorian that couldn't name too many front benches.
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  Speaker 2: So wouldn't Ben Carroll need six months to really establish
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  Speaker 2: himself have that credibility with the election before a poll.
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  Speaker 6: Look, definitely, and I think that the Liberal Party would
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  Speaker 6: prefer to Center Ellen to State. But I do think
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  Speaker 6: that in time it will be same saying like it's
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  Speaker 6: all the same policies, like he's been there during that
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  Speaker 6: whole ten tenure as well, So it will take a
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  Speaker 6: little while for people to go, you know, fresh and
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  Speaker 6: shiny new thing, but actually scratch the service and what's
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  Speaker 6: underneath it.
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  Speaker 3: And Patrick, you look at the figures.
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  Speaker 2: The two party preferred figures are great news for the coalition,
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  Speaker 2: but their primary vote has also dropped.
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  Speaker 3: So this isn't really love what they're offering.
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  Speaker 2: It's more a loathing for state labor and what they've
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  Speaker 2: done to this state that's reflected in these figures.
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  Speaker 4: Look, the feeling against labor is visceral. I'll keep using
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  Speaker 4: that word. And we saw that footage of just Center
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  Speaker 4: Allen knocking on doors and her lecture and sort.
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  Speaker 7: Of people abusing her.
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  Speaker 4: It is so deeply held and it's about the fact
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  Speaker 4: that this government has been go out of touch and
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  Speaker 4: so untrustworthy. And I think for me probably there are
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  Speaker 4: so many sort of points you can look at and say, well,
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  Speaker 4: jumped the shark there, or jumped the shark there. I
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  Speaker 4: think the CFMU stuff where Justinta Allen came out and said,
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  Speaker 4: well it's not fifteen bion doors that's been fleeced by
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  Speaker 4: from taxpayers, but I'm not going to have an inquiry
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  Speaker 4: to find out anything more about it. I mean, it
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  Speaker 4: is insane what this government has tried to get away with.
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  Speaker 2: Now we've had a mobile billboard causing all sorts of controversy.
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  Speaker 2: It's been seen around Melbourne featuring the phrase ditch the
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  Speaker 2: Witch alongside an image of Jason to Alan, prompting a
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  Speaker 2: very strong backlash from labor luminaries, led by the Premier
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  Speaker 2: herself and the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 8: Having the privilege of standing here as Premier and having
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  Speaker 8: the opportunity to call out sexism against women in all
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  Speaker 8: its forms, it actually been positions like mine. It demands
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  Speaker 8: that response.
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  Speaker 9: What worries me is the misogyny that's involved there. The
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  Speaker 9: sexist campaign targeting the Victorian premier is totally unacceptable and
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  Speaker 9: has no place in public life. What I don't want
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  Speaker 9: to do is to have a press comments in this
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  Speaker 9: courtyard after a tragedy.
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  Speaker 2: And Liberal Deputy Leader Jane Hume was similarly appalled by
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  Speaker 2: the image.
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  Speaker 7: I agree with both the Premier and the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: I know that sounds unusual, but sexism has no place
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  Speaker 2: in politics. Now let's hear from One Nation leader Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hanson for her take.
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  Speaker 10: Suck it up, sweetheart, right if you've seen what's happened
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  Speaker 10: to me over theres I remember years ago Tim Fisher
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  Speaker 10: called me a which night should be burned at the
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  Speaker 10: stake Colleen.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder why she's surging in the polls. That's authentic
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  Speaker 2: and it's also politically savvy because people hate politicians playing
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  Speaker 2: the victim and feigning outrage at an image. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Victori Labor doesn't even know what a woman is. How
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  Speaker 2: can anything, how can anything be sexist? I mean, why
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  Speaker 2: are witches gendered? I mean, surely witches can be whatever
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  Speaker 2: they want to be.
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  Speaker 6: And I think the issue here too is you scratch
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  Speaker 6: the surface and it's just so performative because Labor have
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  Speaker 6: was it Viguiela, who complained about bullying within her own
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  Speaker 6: party that they instantly dismissed Gregorovich providing references for sex
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  Speaker 6: offenders and domestic violence abusers, you know, the labor mean
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  Speaker 6: girls and what they put Kimberly Kitchen and Linda Reynolds
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  Speaker 6: and Fiona Brown through. It's just so hypocritical to stand
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  Speaker 6: there and say that you can't say anything nasty about women.
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  Speaker 6: The other thing is that, like, so, how come a
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  Speaker 6: female can't be criticized? Like who says they can't be criticized.
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  Speaker 6: I'm completely with Pauline Hanson on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Suck it up, yeah, and using colorful language to criticize politicians,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's calling Dad Andrews a dictator or you know,
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of other terms that you could say are gendered.
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  Speaker 2: When it applies to leftist woman Patrick, it seems to
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  Speaker 2: be a different standard. You can attack conservative women in
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  Speaker 2: whatever terms you like, be as colorful, beer as cruel
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  Speaker 2: as you like.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's a.
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  Speaker 2: Left leaning woman then it's outrageous.
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  Speaker 3: It's obviously sexism, soogynistic.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to set the sisterhood back decades, and we
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  Speaker 2: saw that with Julia Gillard, and interestingly, she's had.
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  Speaker 3: Something to say about this. Ditch the witch image as well.
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  Speaker 4: But Julia Gillard was what fifteen sixteen years ago when
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  Speaker 4: we were having that discussion about the rhetoric. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's unwelcome for the simple reason that it gives labor
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  Speaker 4: luminaries something to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: It gives them a distraction.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think most people would sort of go for
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  Speaker 4: this kind of rhetoric. I don't think most people think
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  Speaker 4: look at that and say, oh, fair enough. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's too far. But it's not part of sexism. This
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  Speaker 4: sort of use of this language is not being used
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  Speaker 4: by every day politician or everyday people. It is a
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  Speaker 4: complete distraction, and I think it's unhelpful because of that.
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  Speaker 9: It is.
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  Speaker 2: But I reckon the average person, whatever their politics, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: see that and fill any sort of sense that it's
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  Speaker 2: bigger tree, and it's unacceptable in modern discourse. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're fairly robust when it comes to politics, and I
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  Speaker 2: think a term like which I've heard plenty worse now.
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  Speaker 2: The Labor Party, they never waste a crisis. They are
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  Speaker 2: begging supporters to donate twenty seven dollars each to try
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  Speaker 2: and stop the rise of one nation. One day's news
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  Speaker 2: poll showed one nation overtaking Labor on primary votes thirty
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  Speaker 2: one to thirty percent. So Labor Headquarters posted an ad
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  Speaker 2: campaign to Instagram and Facebook, reading, please don't scroll past this.
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  Speaker 2: If everyone's seeing this, contributed twenty seven dollars, we'd have
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  Speaker 2: the resources to prevent one nation from turning polling momentum
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  Speaker 2: into seats.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Patrick, that's pretty clever.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you take bad news story and you turn
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  Speaker 2: it into a donation drive.
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  Speaker 4: What I find weird about this is I think they're
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  Speaker 4: asking for between ten dollars and twenty seven dollars twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: It's so precise, and don't I ask too much in
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  Speaker 4: the cost of living crisis, and I think this is
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  Speaker 4: sort of this is backhanded recognition that one nation and
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  Speaker 4: Paul Enhandson faired income they are the real deal and
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  Speaker 4: they are panicked within the ALP. This is what this says.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they are absolutely paddicked. And ye know why that
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  Speaker 2: precise about? Do we know why they've come up with that?
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  Speaker 2: Is it some way to I don't know, dodge some
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  Speaker 2: reporting of Oh no, you surely you know.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's just a barrier to allow people to
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  Speaker 6: feel like they can contribute without it being a cost
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  Speaker 6: of living issue. You know, between fifteen and twenty dollars
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  Speaker 6: doesn't seem to be too much.
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  Speaker 2: So I wonder if a focus group assessed, you know,
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  Speaker 2: should we go twenty five dollars or should we go
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  Speaker 2: for a you know, thirty dollars is too much? How
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  Speaker 2: much money did they spend to come up with a
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven dollar figure.
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  Speaker 6: But it also goes to show just how afraid Labor are.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they're sitting with a ninety four seat parliament
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  Speaker 6: and this is what they're doing. The election is not
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  Speaker 6: due until May twenty twenty eight, so they are spooped,
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  Speaker 6: and so they should be you know, I mean one
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  Speaker 6: the rise of one nation is it is a definite movement,
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  Speaker 6: so they should be afraid.
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  Speaker 7: But it does show you just.
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  Speaker 6: How afraid these major parties are. They're not the major
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  Speaker 6: parties anymore. Have to stop using that language.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is a thing.
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  Speaker 2: You've got one nation that was polling what's six percent
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  Speaker 2: a year ago now overtaking the Coalition and Labor in
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  Speaker 2: a number of polls. I think Labor can no longer
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  Speaker 2: pretend this is just a phenomenon that's damaging the coalition.
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  Speaker 2: It is taking votes from labor as well.
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  Speaker 4: Patrick, Yes, absolutely, And I think you look at the
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  Speaker 4: budget and you look at the mistrust that came in
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  Speaker 4: when Albanezy said we're not going to mess around with CGT,
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  Speaker 4: We're not going to mess around with negative gearing. A
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  Speaker 4: year later is messing around with and it just shows
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  Speaker 4: that lack of trust for the mainstream parties is it's
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  Speaker 4: just so prominent now, isn't it. And people had turned
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  Speaker 4: to one nation. It's sort of like they've been treated
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  Speaker 4: themselves for thirty years and we like what they.
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  Speaker 3: Have to say now.
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  Speaker 2: A New South Wales renter has claimed she was ordered
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  Speaker 2: to take down the Australian flag from her home during
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  Speaker 2: a routine inspection.
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  Speaker 3: Have a listen this morning.
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  Speaker 11: We had a routine house inspection and the first thing
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  Speaker 11: that the real estate said when she got to the
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  Speaker 11: front door is I'm going to have to take this
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  Speaker 11: Australian flag down before I can start the inspection. I
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  Speaker 11: just looked at her and said, what, okay, sure, whatever.
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  Speaker 11: Obviously she proceeded to tell me that she doesn't have
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  Speaker 11: an issue with it, it's whatever, but the owner believes
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  Speaker 11: by having it up our house might become a target.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick, you can't fly an Australian flag in Australia. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's come to that, has it.
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  Speaker 2: And I wonder if the real estate agent would have
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  Speaker 2: asked her to take, say a Pride flagged out or
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  Speaker 2: an indigenous flag.
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  Speaker 4: The tenant made that point and the fact it is
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  Speaker 4: so sad. It is such an indictment that the Australian flag.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, We've ANZACs fought for it, Oliminian's wave it
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  Speaker 4: around when they win. I mean, it is a unifying
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  Speaker 4: sort of symbol and the idea that it has somehow
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  Speaker 4: become so divisive or so offensive to some people that
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  Speaker 4: it makes a target of a property is really sad.
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  Speaker 4: And I do think in saying that, I do think
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  Speaker 4: it has shifted back a little bit since Bondai and
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  Speaker 4: since the fact that Australians want Australians to have Australian values,
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  Speaker 4: which is decency, fair, it's all the obvious things. I
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  Speaker 4: do think it has started to ship back.
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  Speaker 2: But that's but there is this polarization where if you're
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  Speaker 2: flying an Australian flag, you can make some assumptions about
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  Speaker 2: that household like you can in America. They say, if
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  Speaker 2: you see an American flag on the porch. You know
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  Speaker 2: that's a Republican household. It's probably not going to be
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  Speaker 2: Democrat and I think increasingly we're seeing those lines here, Colleen.
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  Speaker 2: We've run out of time, Patrick car Lyon, Colleen, how
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  Speaker 2: can I thank you so much for your time? Thank
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  Speaker 2: you now, Harold Son. Associate editor James Campbell went on
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  Speaker 2: the road with the One Nation leader for seventy two
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  Speaker 2: hours through the Nationals held electorates of Marinoah and Wide
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  Speaker 2: Bay to see for himself what the Pauline Hanson phenomenon
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  Speaker 2: looks like on the ground.
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  Speaker 10: First thing, he says, well, she wants to be Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: I've been following her for many, many many years.
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  Speaker 5: She's standing up for Australians.
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  Speaker 7: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 12: We're out of the road and we're politicians. You see
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  Speaker 12: a story, you read a story, and you look at
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  Speaker 12: the numbers and a story, but behind it there is
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  Speaker 12: a genuine human phenomenon that goes beyond I'm going to
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  Speaker 12: vote for One Nation and I don't think I had
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  Speaker 12: any idea about what I was going to see when
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  Speaker 12: I came out. Everywhere we have gone it is the same.
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  Speaker 7: It is people coming.
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  Speaker 12: Up, It is people wanting to touch it.
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  Speaker 7: It is people crime. It is real and in.
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  Speaker 3: Big Joining me now is James Campbell. James, you said it.
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  Speaker 3: The Hanson phenomenon is real. It's big.
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  Speaker 2: What did you learn during your seventy two two hours
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  Speaker 2: with the One Nation leader?
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  Speaker 12: Okay, I learned two big things. The first is that
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  Speaker 12: it's not just about the numbers. It's about the intensity
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  Speaker 12: of the emotion and the relationship that the people who
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  Speaker 12: like Pauline Hanson have with her. Everywhere we went, it
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  Speaker 12: wasn't just oh, you know, we like her or we're
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  Speaker 12: voting for her. It's like a lot of people really
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  Speaker 12: think she's the last best chance to save Austraight. They
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  Speaker 12: are very, very emotionally invested in her in a way
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  Speaker 12: that I imagine from talking to older reporters. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 12: haven't seen in this country since Hawk in nineteen eighty three.
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  Speaker 12: Like that's the kind of reaction she gets. If she's
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  Speaker 12: standing on a corner walking down the street, people will stop,
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  Speaker 12: people will walk up, people want to touch her. It's
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  Speaker 12: you know, I spent a lot of time around politicians.
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  Speaker 12: Believe me, I've never seen that happen to the Prime
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  Speaker 12: Minister when I've been with him.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, with her in Canberra.
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  Speaker 12: The last Prime minister years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Even in Canbra, you know Canbra universe. The warmth people
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  Speaker 2: had with for her, the ones who came up was
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  Speaker 2: really quite surprising. But outside of Canberra it's magnified. Can
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  Speaker 2: she take that sort of warmth and momentum through to
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  Speaker 2: an election though? Is it's all well and good to
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  Speaker 2: have it right now?
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  Speaker 12: I'll come back to that. The other thing I was
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  Speaker 12: going to say that it's about that is that I
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  Speaker 12: hadn't expected is these people who are into her are
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  Speaker 12: not outsiders. They're not like, you know, the kind of
• 17:31
  Speaker 12: metropolitan image of her is only really losers like Pauline Hansen.
• 17:36
  Speaker 12: Pauline Hansen's fan base now extends into the kind of
• 17:41
  Speaker 12: upper middle class world that is the Liberal Party's home base.
• 17:46
  Speaker 12: We were in Nursa, we went to functions in Nursa.
• 17:49
  Speaker 12: I thought the you know, you know Nursa, I know Nursa.
• 17:52
  Speaker 12: It's like it's these are people who would at any
• 17:55
  Speaker 12: other point in history have been strong L and P supporters,
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: I would suspect, and watching that, it's clear that a
• 18:03
  Speaker 12: lot of the coalition's base is now with her. Is
• 18:07
  Speaker 12: it going to be enough. That's a really big question.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Well, how does the reaction you saw to her in
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: NUSA and in regional areas, how does it differ to
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: what you see from other politicians. I think with her,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it's not just that they see her as our last
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: chance to save Australia, but I think some of that
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: affection is that she's been attacked, and she's been attacked
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: and attacked for decades. She went to jail, They've come
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: at her personally, and she's been steadfast. She hasn't flip flopped.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: She doesn't change her opinions based on focus groups. There's
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: something authentic about her that you don't see with most politicians.
• 18:50
  Speaker 12: That's true. A lot of women we spoke to said
• 18:55
  Speaker 12: a variation of the form of words, I've always liked her,
• 19:00
  Speaker 12: and you've got the sensor because she kind of stands
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: up takes it to the blokes that and now you
• 19:06
  Speaker 12: also got the sense that I've always liked it, but
• 19:09
  Speaker 12: before I didn't like to say that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Now I'm out.
• 19:11
  Speaker 12: There and I'm going to trumpet the fact I really
• 19:14
  Speaker 12: like Paul Enhanson and it has.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Been normalized, and we've had a news poll this week,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: first time in Newspoll history where one Nation is outpolling Labor.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So it's no longer a fringe position or a fringe party.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: They are very much in the main stream ahead of
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the coalition.
• 19:30
  Speaker 12: A lot of voters are walking going from Labor, walking
• 19:33
  Speaker 12: right past Angus Taylor to one Nation. Same thing's happening
• 19:36
  Speaker 12: down here in Victoria. A lot of people are walking
• 19:37
  Speaker 12: right past Jess Wilson, from Jacinda Allen to one Nation.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: So how do the center right parties capitalize on this
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: right wing shift? Because you add up the primary vote
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: of the coalition and one Nation, it's bigger than what
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Labor and the Greens are. So just in basic figures,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you would expect the coalition with one name to be
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: forming some sort of coalition government. But if they don't
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: come to some firm agreement, you're going to have Labor
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: with less than thirty percent of the vote, or around
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: thirty percent of the primary vote, winning in big majorities,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: winning in landslides.
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a big problem for them. What they how
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: they work out a workable relationship with between the two
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: Because the moment the coalition acknowledges that one nation is
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: part of the furniture and joining the coalition. What's to
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: stop the rest of their base bolting to her that
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: they have got another problem, which is that if you
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: look at the polls, a sizeable chunk of the Liberal
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: Party vote, let's say the National Party say that being
• 20:45
  Speaker 12: in some kind of agreement with Paul Enhanson makes them
• 20:48
  Speaker 12: substantially less likely to vote the Liberal Party. So it
• 20:53
  Speaker 12: cuts both ways.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: So that's the inner city Liberal votes left.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Of it, which is still.
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: Not in some stantial chunk of their vote. And it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: you know, they've got to navigate between these two rocks, really,
• 21:08
  Speaker 12: and I don't think they've got any idea how to do.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: It at the moment.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Well that's evident. James Campbell, thank you so much for
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: your time tonight. Still to come. Left is losing it,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: plus all the lasers from the US, including the Shenanigans
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: in La Kosher Gata is up next. You're watching the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Reader Paney Show, and it's time for lefties losing it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Let's start with New York City Council addressing the really
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: big issues plaguing the city, you know, the crime, the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: filthy homelessness.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Of course, I'm kidding.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They're too busy organizing a pride ball in council chambers
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to honor the lgbt QIA plus plus two sl community. Yes,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: let's keep focusing on the really important stuff. New York
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: City now to somewhere even more left than Manhattan, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that's d C, where more than ninety percent vote Democrat.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And they'd rather live in decay than give President Trump
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: any sort of praise for cleaning up the joint. Even
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the dramatic improvements to the Lincoln Memorial reflect acting Pool
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: is being backed by these misery guts.
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: I would have preferred to keep it like it was.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: It's an incredibly stupid idea. I'm delighted that it's still reflecting.
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: I think it's horrible. The color I've seen on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: news is disgusting to me, as opposed to how your
• 23:17
  Speaker 13: pull it was in the past.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But at least this formerhator has enough integrity to admit
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the truth, to admit the obvious.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: So it was a stupid idea to heat the reflecting pool.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Started to do a couple of months.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: It looks good. It actually looks really good. They did
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: make the reflection look extraordinarily prompt it in a way
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: that it did not look too and I hate that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, you may be the last honest Democrat in DC.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: How can anyone not be happy with the improvements that
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: are happening in DC. They're reflecting Poole actually looking beautiful
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: and clean and regal. No more green algae and filth,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: just beautiful blue. You know, decline is a choice. Now,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: This next lady really sums up the modern Democrats. What's
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: your defend Democrat Graham Platner his Nazi tattoo? Even that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: is okay by her, but she does draw the line
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: at an Israeli tattoo that would be unforgivable.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: They are trolling for Dirk texts, well, what if he
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: has like Israeli flag tattoo or something?
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: Would that be a deal breaker? Easy for me?
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, honestly, yeah, that would be really yeah, because I
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: don't support Jim Side and he doesn't either, and that
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: would show that he was being inconsistent.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Now you would have heard plenty about President Donald Trump
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: being fed up with NBC's Kristin Welker. I mean, if
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: she's going to blatantly lie about her own worldview, as
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you know in.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: The last time we were Dead Country Christian. I know
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: you you're a big liberal. We're big progressive, no, just
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: a journal. We were a dead country.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And after an hour in the rain being met with
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: increasingly stupid, boneheaded questions, the President had enough. War cheer
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: as he tells the interviewer what he thinks of her,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: her network, and in fact, the entire industry.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: This is art.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: I want to talk about time.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You have more evidence, there's more evidence than ever presented.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: Let's talk. Your elections in.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: This country were like a third world country. So your
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: elections are crooked, and your crooked, and these the presses crooked,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and so is ABC and CBS and CNN, your one
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: sided crooked networks. Right, let's call it question because I've
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: had enough. Thank you, darling, have a good time.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: President.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: Let's please I traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I've i know, on and off in the rain, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I've given you enough time. You want to straighten out
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: your press because you know what, the country can never
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: be great.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Travel with Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: for the singer.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I traveled all the way to Wisconsin. Like that's some
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: sort of a sacrifice. Honey, you flew first class to
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: do your job, which you did poorly. By the way,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: who does she think she is. Let's bring in Sky
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher. Really, what is the press
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: trying to do. We've already got extensive polling showing trust
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: in the media is that historic lows, and some in
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the media have decided that's not low enough.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: We just want to just keep digging.
• 26:35
  Speaker 14: Yes, And if you're interviewing the president of the United States,
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: and especially Trump, this isn't her first rodeo.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: She's done it before. She knows that he's going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: be adversaria.
• 26:45
  Speaker 14: There's a little bit of a given tike that happens,
• 26:48
  Speaker 14: and meeting it about herself is not wise.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: That was the biggest problem I had with it, not
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: just said the questions were bone headed and just a
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: complete lack of insight or acceptance of the fact that
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the electoral system in the US leaves a lot to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: be desired, particularly in California.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that, but making it about herself.
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: I came all the way here, right, That's like journalism
• 27:12
  Speaker 14: one on one, you are not the subject.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: So that was unfortunate.
• 27:15
  Speaker 14: And I think it's because she got flum mixed that
• 27:17
  Speaker 14: he is getting up and leaving and those are the
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: thoughts and words that came.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Out of her mouth.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: She should be happy because it gives her a moment
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: that was actually you know, that made the interview.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Otherwise we wouldn't be talking.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: You would have been Moor.
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: And that's the second Piastere point that I think even
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: though the trust is law which started and then there's
• 27:34
  Speaker 14: a lag effect on what's happening to the business models
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: that are all now imploding for a lot of these
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: networks and layoffs and everything else, they still are playing
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: to their camp and they're not trying to be a
• 27:43
  Speaker 14: product of mass appeal, and that speaks to the whole country.
• 27:45
  Speaker 14: So from that perspective, she might consider.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: This a win.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, in her recode chamber, that could be a
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: win because she was mistreated by the president who walked off.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But after an hour on and off, how long do
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you want with the leader of the world. Well, let's
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: talk about the unbelievable shenanigans in the La Meryal race
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: where the woman who gave a tearful concession speech on
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: election night some now managed to poll insane numbers in
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: probable numbers in the maulin votes to go past Spencer
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Pratt kosher explain to the audience how that happens because
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the Californian system. Wow, that there is a lot of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: scope there for chicanery.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: M h.
• 28:28
  Speaker 14: It's pathetic, it really is, even if you want to
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: give it the most charitable explanation that that's the system,
• 28:33
  Speaker 14: which is what Kristin Walker was trying to do. It
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: is not pathetic that they can't count on election date.
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: It's sevent dy's on, the governor's reached. By the way,
• 28:41
  Speaker 14: it still hasn't been counted. It's going to go on
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: for two more weeks.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: They say, how can that be.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You've got countries with tens of millions, sometimes hundreds of
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: millions of voters that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Do it at the same night, they do it in
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the same night. How can you have a first world.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Country and they can't manage to get their result for weeks.
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: That's right, even in the same country. Florida as an example,
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: after the Bush Gore incident in two thousand, they reformed
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: their laws in their system and now they have almost
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: thirty million people in the state of Florida and they
• 29:08
  Speaker 14: counted on election night very precisely. So it can be done.
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: And that leads to again people thinking at worst, at best,
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: it's incompetence, and at worse it's something more sinister. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: whether rightly or wrongly, that perception is only there, it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: only going to increase. Where multiple things happen, they take
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: seven plus days to count. Be this mass mil in
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: voting floods a system which is inherently more prone to fraud,
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: whether it's happening or not, because multiple people have to touch
• 29:33
  Speaker 14: it across the chain of custody. See somebody who's very unpopular,
• 29:37
  Speaker 14: like Nitia Rahman surges from behind.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: She was calling the mayor, So Karen Bess was number
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: one after election nine right, Spencer Pratt number two, So
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: you would think those two would be going.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: Off, and she was a distant third.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And this comes more than eight percent behind. And yet
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the votes that were counted late, she was not just
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: outpolling Spencer Pratt, she was outpolling may back right. So
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: in the end you're going to end up with two
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: hard left options. There is going to be no independent,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: no centrist, no republic.
• 30:07
  Speaker 14: And they haven't had it for eighty years, so that's
• 30:10
  Speaker 14: just going to happen, and I wouldn't say that. It's
• 30:12
  Speaker 14: also worth remembering this happens in other cities and twenty twenty.
• 30:15
  Speaker 14: There's a reason why many people didn't believe and will
• 30:18
  Speaker 14: never believe. They're going to go to their grade not
• 30:20
  Speaker 14: believing that that election was fully above board and that
• 30:22
  Speaker 14: Biden didn't get any one million votes and all that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 14: So this dredges all of that back up, and it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 14: a complete joke. The entire world is watching and they don't.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Care, and the media doesn't care because it doesn't suit
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: them because we know the politics of the overwhelming majority
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of the media. But if the media had some curiosity
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: about what's happening here, that would be the story of
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the century, the fact that you've got the biggest democracy,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: arguably in the world, with systems that are corrupted. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I want to play just a clip from a Californian here.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: He's a.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Barrister litigator, and he just explains how the system in
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: California is so open to cheating. This is Ashton Cohen.
• 31:06
  Speaker 15: You can literally register to vote with a gym membership card,
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: a debit card, or an insurance card, which the state
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: will hand you for free, even if you're in the
• 31:16
  Speaker 15: country illegally. When I actually went to vote in person
• 31:18
  Speaker 15: with my parents. My dad forgot that California has no
• 31:21
  Speaker 15: voter ID requirements, which by the way, is the norm
• 31:24
  Speaker 15: in virtually every democracy in the world. So he pulled
• 31:27
  Speaker 15: out his ID and they were like, no, no, no, put
• 31:30
  Speaker 15: that way, put that way. Oh God, We're so shook
• 31:33
  Speaker 15: and offended because fraud is basically a virtue.
• 31:36
  Speaker 16: Here.
• 31:36
  Speaker 15: To make matters worse, we have the most egregious ballot
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: harvesting in the country. This practice, which again is banned
• 31:43
  Speaker 15: in virtually every democracy in the world, is commonplace here.
• 31:47
  Speaker 15: So radical political organizations exploit it by targeting people in
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: skid row, in poor neighborhoods, in non English speaking communities,
• 31:56
  Speaker 15: register them to vote, tell them how to vote, even
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: fill out the ballot for them, and then collect all
• 32:01
  Speaker 15: those ballots by the thousands and drop them off.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Kosha.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: This is Banana republic stuff. This is just not just underhanded,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: but it's cheating. This is not a democracy. And the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: whole way mail in voting has been weaponized. It was
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a one off to deal with a pandemic.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Now it's been institutionalized and being used by political parties
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to gain advantage.
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: Yes, and it's so hard to get it out, So
• 32:32
  Speaker 14: for years they were creeping and trying to increase it
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: from it used to just be for service members that
• 32:37
  Speaker 14: are serving verifiable expats or the infirm who physically can
• 32:41
  Speaker 14: get there and have medical proof that they can get
• 32:43
  Speaker 14: their very small numbers, and then bit by bit, always
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: in blue states and cities, they were expanding it. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 14: then COVID was just a gift to that agenda because
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: it became the pretext to completely just flood the system
• 32:54
  Speaker 14: with mail in votes. That's part of the reason why
• 32:56
  Speaker 14: it takes them so long. But also it is right
• 32:58
  Speaker 14: for fraud, whether it's actually how opening or the perception
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: of it is happening, that will lead to things that
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: would happen to Jan six. It will lead to the
• 33:05
  Speaker 14: fact that people like that gentleman who plead and others
• 33:08
  Speaker 14: are just completely not trusting the system. And if you
• 33:11
  Speaker 14: don't trust the system, bad things are going to happen.
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: I don't know when, I don't know where, but that
• 33:15
  Speaker 14: is not a healthy recipe for a help.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And Spencer Pratt made the point that there was I
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: think something like a forty eight thousand jump in the
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: votes against him or going to the third place candidate
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: pushing her up to any place, and that is just
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: coincidentally the homeless population in LA. So and as he explained,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: they do target vulnerable populations who perhaps aren't politically engaged,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: aren't going to be participating in the vote and filling
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the ballots for them.
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: In some cases, that's the other piece too.
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: So if it's not outright fraud, that would be in
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: a category where it's not illegal technically. But they're just
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: the machinery, the Democrat machinery is really really good at
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: finding these little information, little propensity vorders showing up, as
• 33:58
  Speaker 14: he said, with ballots printing out. There are laws where
• 34:01
  Speaker 14: you can't fill it in and mail it, but you
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: can do everything up until that last step with them.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: And then on top of that, you add into the
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: mix of these homeless people in the case of LA
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: may not even be from California. They could be from
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: Seattle their day.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And like you said, it's almost offensive to offer your
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: ID as if you are participating in something that's improper,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: so you can we could go show up at LA
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and vote. So we are going to end up with
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: two hard left candidates. What for LA now, because Spencer
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Pratt the reason why his campaign gained nationwide international attention.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Was perhaps there was finally going.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: To be an option for locals in LA they were
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: going to have a real choice between two very different candidates.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Now you've got two socialists. Love the balance.
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: Good luck to them, they're going to need it absolutely.
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: And he was also such a good candidate. He played
• 34:55
  Speaker 14: the games so well, so sad with the media, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: didn't really allow himself to be pigeonholed and one party
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: or the other. I guess he's a Republican, but came
• 35:02
  Speaker 14: off as an independent. Didn't want to get tagged to Trump,
• 35:05
  Speaker 14: didn't want to get tagged anything else. And his home
• 35:08
  Speaker 14: burned down in those fires. She presided, Karen bass in
• 35:11
  Speaker 14: Common presided over those fires. So there was that whole
• 35:14
  Speaker 14: dynamic in there, and she's going to get rewarded probably
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: with another reelection. It's not her versus the Mamdani of
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: the West.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Coast, Mantari of the West goes Now. President Trump has
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: nominated Todd Blanche to serve as Attorney General Koship. Blanche
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: has been serving as acting AG since Pam Bondi's stepped down.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: She's but he's going to face a tough confirmation there's
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: already Democrats coming out going this is a no from us.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We're not even entertaining him being a g and it's
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: such a crucial role in the administration.
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: I think all of Trump's cabinet positions appointees other than
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: Mircarol Rubio, who was ninety nine to one or one
• 35:54
  Speaker 14: hundred to zero, they voted for him, former colleague and
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: more acceptable to them. But everybody else is down part lines.
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: So I think the Democrats are all going to be
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: a no. And they know that Trump knows that. Todd
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: Blanche knows that, and it's all about getting the squishy
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: Republicans three to four names that always come up. Some
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: of them, like Tom Tillis, has been coming out saying
• 36:12
  Speaker 14: he won't support it, and he's also retiring. One of
• 36:15
  Speaker 14: the ones is being run out of Congress, so he
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: doesn't have an incentive to play nice with the magabase
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: because he's retiring, so.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: I think that'll be a problem.
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: But until then, he is the acting ag so there
• 36:25
  Speaker 14: isn't that much difference from a day to day perspective
• 36:28
  Speaker 14: of what he can do. There's just a time limit
• 36:30
  Speaker 14: to it, two hundred days or something like that, where
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: the acting. AG's powers maybe soften and it'll be an
• 36:37
  Speaker 14: uphill battle, but I think with enough pressure from Trump
• 36:39
  Speaker 14: he'll probably get him over the line.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Pair Bondie, It's interesting to look at her legacy, you
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: would say, I would say she presided over the biggest
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: misstep in this second Trump term, which was her mishandling
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: of the Epstein files. It was something that should have
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: been a massive win that's become a lie. And finally
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the files have been released and again there's nothing in
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: there that hurts President Trump. But she created that perception
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: by playing funny games, by you know, pretending to release them,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: saying they're on her desk and there's nothing in them.
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: It was shambolic, it really was, and she became the
• 37:20
  Speaker 14: face of it, and she did all that stuff where
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: she ran on television and said they're sitting on my desk,
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: as you say, and then called those podcasters in who
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: were un favorable to the.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Right and then embarrassed them and all of that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: You could argue that ultimately it is Trump who's overseeing that,
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: and if he really wanted them out, he also would
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: have handled things differently, and a lot of his base
• 37:41
  Speaker 14: is unhappy with that, like one corner.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: He was never that invested in it, and I think again,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: he's got very good political instincts, but they failed him
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: when he came to that issue.
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: And it's it's so inexplicable because as you say, it
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: wasn't it was an asset to them, oh ear, And
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: now its lead into all these theories out there of
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: why why is he doing it? Isn't just just because
• 38:00
  Speaker 14: he's protecting the donors. Is there like something else in there?
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: I prosally don't believe there's anything negative of him in there,
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: because if that were the case, Merrick Garland and Biden
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: would if.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Anything, the references to Trump, if you actually read some
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of the exchanges where his name is mentioned by Epstein,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: it's all Epstein, you know, watching NBC type content and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: venting about how much he hates Trump. Yes, because as
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: we know, the history there is fairly rich. Donald Trump
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: had banned him from Mara Lago before he even had
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: his first conviction. Epstein believed that Trump was the one
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: who alerted authorities to his shenanigans, and it's always been
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: determined to destroy him. So given that narrative, you think
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you'd been wanting to push that up as much as
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you can. You would you would want him to talk
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: about the Epstein files daily.
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: And he had that now infamous line where he said,
• 38:53
  Speaker 14: I'm still talking about the Epstein files and he meant
• 38:55
  Speaker 14: he wants to get on with governing. But that line
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: has come back as well and readed them and then
• 38:59
  Speaker 14: she after Pam became the face of it, mishandled it
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: in that way, and unfortunately that will be a little
• 39:05
  Speaker 14: bit of her legacy.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Now let's go to New York City, where socialist Mazor
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: and Ma'm Danny has put this ad together to coincide
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: with the NBA finals New York.
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: We know anything's possible with a great teams.
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: I'm Brad Lander, and I'll block billionaires from buying our elections.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I'm Marie Lissa Avilecevllier, and I'll defend New York by
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: abolishing ICE.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: I'm Claire Valdaz and I'll stand up against bad landlords
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: and greedy corporations. Get out and vote.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: This is the team.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: This is our year, abolishing ice, attacking landlords. It's some
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: sort of communist manifesto where dream bad ad.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: That's New York City.
• 39:48
  Speaker 14: Now, yes, and he's nothing if not consistent. He's been
• 39:51
  Speaker 14: saying this as he was a campaigning, as he was running,
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: and he's you know, following through. And those three are
• 39:56
  Speaker 14: running for federal stats and seats in the US Congress
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: in deep blue New York where they're going to whoever
• 40:03
  Speaker 14: the Democrats is going to win. But it is interesting
• 40:05
  Speaker 14: that they're hitching their wagon to him because I have
• 40:08
  Speaker 14: to say it, he does have charisma. As much as
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: we don't obviously like those policies and they're crazy if
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: you listen to them, he's consistent. He has charisma. That
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: ad was pretty catchy. It aired during the nixt game.
• 40:18
  Speaker 14: Makes them look good. And I can't say the same
• 40:21
  Speaker 14: thing for Nathia Rahman again, his twin over on the
• 40:23
  Speaker 14: West Coast not as charismatic. And I don't know if
• 40:25
  Speaker 14: California federal Democrats are going to hitch their wagon to
• 40:29
  Speaker 14: her if she furthers herself in the runoff against Karen Bass.
• 40:33
  Speaker 14: But he is becoming a little bit of a I
• 40:36
  Speaker 14: don't want to say king.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Maker, but a little bit of a positive influence.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Well he I think he is now the model they're
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: going to follow.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: They're going to look at how he won that campaign
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: how he markets himself, and I think you're going to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: see more and more Democrats in the mold of zorn
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Man Danny Koshaged.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I think he's so much for your tire pleasure.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Coming up the controversy surrounding Donald Trump's appearance at the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: NBA Finals, Alex Stein has the details.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Welcome back now.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: President Donald Trump was in the crowd for Game three
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals with the Knicks taking on this
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs at Madison Square Garden, and you know
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the lefties were going to lose it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: He's hands and I love that smirk as the crowd
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: is doing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And his attendance promoted outrage from the ridiculous manchild Stephen A. Smith,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: who claimed the President of the United States watching his
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: team play is narcissistic.
• 41:58
  Speaker 13: What strictly a basketball segment. This president has no business
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: showing up in New York City. I am dead serious.
• 42:08
  Speaker 13: It is selfish, It is narcissistic. It is ridiculous that
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: he is coming to this game. I would say the
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: same thing if it were Obama, George W.
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: Clinton. I don't give a damn.
• 42:22
  Speaker 13: We went back to Reagan. This is not a football
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: stadium in some space in Texas where you got a
• 42:27
  Speaker 13: whole bunch of outlayers and all of this. This is
• 42:29
  Speaker 13: the garden, This is midtown Manhattan. You have any idea
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: what the congestion is going to be like in New
• 42:34
  Speaker 13: York City?
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: Here?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, when't someone think of the congestion in Manhattan? You
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: know what else is in Manhattan? Trump Tower, the UN
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: You reckon? They have heartened security around the UN. Is
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Trump allowed to go there? You ridiculous cry baby? Just
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: imagine how loopy you have to be to make one
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: of the ladies of the view look balanced and rational.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Here is will be Goldberg, proving that even a broken
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: clock is right twice a day.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 43:07
  Speaker 17: Trump and Mayor Mom Dommy are Knicks fans and have
• 43:13
  Speaker 17: been their New Yorkers, and you can't There's nothing either
• 43:19
  Speaker 17: one of them can do to change what's happening in
• 43:23
  Speaker 17: the city for this team.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: They can't.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: You know, they're they're there.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: Okay, you know what.
• 43:30
  Speaker 17: I don't think anything can jinx anything. I think these
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: guys are on a mission.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Sonny's that sour face they made that clip?
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Delicious talking about Delicious joining me is comedian and host
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: of After Hours with Alex Dine, Alex, what is wrong
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: with Stephen A.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Smith?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I thought he was supposed to be a sensible lefty
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, but I don't believe for a second
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: then he would say the same thing about President Obama.
• 44:05
  Speaker 16: No, he would not care if Obama was at the
• 44:08
  Speaker 16: Knicks NBA Finals game. But let's be real. You know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 16: Steven A. Smith is allegedly running for president. I mean,
• 44:14
  Speaker 16: he's kind of doing like a shadow campaign, so he
• 44:16
  Speaker 16: probably looks at Donald Trump like some sort of threat.
• 44:19
  Speaker 16: So I feel like he's just trying to virtue single
• 44:21
  Speaker 16: But I will say this, Rita, I actually know that
• 44:23
  Speaker 16: Donald Trump has been a long time New York Knicks fans.
• 44:25
  Speaker 16: He's been going to the games, had season tickets, went
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: to the NBA Draft. Even Adam Silver, the league's commissioner,
• 44:31
  Speaker 16: even said Donald Trump as a fan.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: But this was a bad game to go to.
• 44:34
  Speaker 16: He should have wined to go to Game four because
• 44:36
  Speaker 16: now they've lost and he lost. They were on a
• 44:38
  Speaker 16: thirteen game win streak, so now it's all gonna be
• 44:40
  Speaker 16: Donald Trump's fault.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: So I'm happy that Donald Trump is there because he
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: supports the Knicks. But it was a lose lose situation
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 44:46
  Speaker 16: He should have probably waited to Game four, but hopefully
• 44:49
  Speaker 16: he'll make it to Game seven or six later on
• 44:51
  Speaker 16: in the series.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: And back in New York.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Well, Zaren Mam Donnie was there too, maybe they can blame.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: The loss on him. Let's have a look at a
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: bit of footage of Trump. He was talking to Nick's
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: owner James Dolan there.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Alex, it's a big deal that he.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Is there because no sitting president has ever attended an
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: NBA final. But we've seen Donald Trump atton UFC events
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden, but the crowd was very different.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: At the UFC, he gets almost universal cheers, whilst the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: NBA crowds the majority were booing him.
• 45:26
  Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, that actually didn't make sense to me
• 45:28
  Speaker 16: because I think the average ticket cost was eight thousand dollars,
• 45:31
  Speaker 16: so I'd imagine that even though it's in New York,
• 45:33
  Speaker 16: which is a liberal hellhole there, I say that there
• 45:36
  Speaker 16: would probably some capitalists and some Trump supporters in the
• 45:39
  Speaker 16: audience to cheer his mind. So if you actually see
• 45:41
  Speaker 16: at the beginning of the clip, it sounds like they
• 45:43
  Speaker 16: were kind of cheering before they started booing.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: But you know, it is what it is. It's it's
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: you go to New York. They're going to give you
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: the New York welcome.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Manhattan is deep deep blue. Let's not miss
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: around there in New York City in general. Now, let's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: talk about fake nice guy billionaire Bill Gates, who has
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: owned up to multiple affairs which were referenced in the
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein files, and at least one of these mistresses
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: divulged secrets of.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Their affair to the pedophile financier.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: In January twenty seventeen, Epstein asked doctor Melanie S. Walker
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: directly if the two had done the act, and Alex,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go through all the correspondents, but
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: in one email she sent in July twenty seventeen, she
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: told Epstein that Gates was an I quote, very gross
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: and not the person people think.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Hmm, what could she mean?
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm not surprised.
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: I mean, anybody hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein is obviously
• 46:46
  Speaker 16: probably more than likely a pervert.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: But what I thought was really.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Crazy, allegedly allegedly.
• 46:52
  Speaker 16: Allegedly allegedly, I don't want Bill Gates, assuming Bill Gates
• 46:55
  Speaker 16: is perfect, but what I did notice that allegedly in
• 46:58
  Speaker 16: the prena Rita.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you've saw this.
• 47:00
  Speaker 16: I'm resident get more media attention that Bill Gates had
• 47:03
  Speaker 16: it in his prenup that he could hang out with
• 47:05
  Speaker 16: his high school sweetheart or college sweetheart for one week
• 47:08
  Speaker 16: a year while he was married to Melinda Gates.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: I thought that was so bizarre.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that made me think a lot less of Melinda,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: to be fair, I mean, why would you agree to that?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Have some self respect.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Now, It's been a tough year for musicals, and that
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: was evident at the Tony Awards this year. Pink, for
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: some reason, who has never been in a Broadway show,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: hosted the ceremony and honored the best of Broadway. She
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: performed several numbers. Alex, what was the highlight of the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Tonys for you?
• 47:43
  Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, I didn't turn the Tonys on. I mean,
• 47:46
  Speaker 16: seeing some of the viral clips, Sami. But let's just
• 47:49
  Speaker 16: be ri But let's just be real though. You know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 16: any of these award shows are so self aggrandizing that
• 47:54
  Speaker 16: they're just I mean, I can't even really support him anymore,
• 47:57
  Speaker 16: I really, whether it's the Emmy's a Golden Globe, I mean, whatever,
• 48:01
  Speaker 16: it is the Oscars. It's just a bunch of rich
• 48:03
  Speaker 16: people congratulating themselves. So I just you know, I'm not interested.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Now the World Cup is almost upon us, and one
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Californian woman got very excited, indeed to see the Austrian
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: national team.
• 48:18
  Speaker 18: Step step out at the airport have a look. Oh
• 48:29
  Speaker 18: my god, Alex.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: She was shock.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think she's single and very excited about the prospects
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: of the Austrians.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Being in her city.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: How excited are you about the World Cup, because I
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: know you love the World game.
• 48:52
  Speaker 16: Oh my, guys, Rita, you know, soccer is a great sport.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: I played in elementary school.
• 48:56
  Speaker 16: But here in Dallas it's been universally disliked by everybody.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 49:00
  Speaker 16: The tickets are four thousand, five thousand dollars apiece. But
• 49:04
  Speaker 16: in Dallas they're doing it all in Arlington at the
• 49:06
  Speaker 16: Big Stadium, which you're.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Familiar with the area.
• 49:08
  Speaker 16: But then all the events are in downtown Dallas. It
• 49:10
  Speaker 16: just feels kind of discombobulated. And at the same exact time,
• 49:13
  Speaker 16: I saw a clip of the England national team. They
• 49:16
  Speaker 16: were puking because it was so hot where they were
• 49:17
  Speaker 16: practicing in Florida. So I don't even know if the
• 49:19
  Speaker 16: players like being in being in America.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I saw the Norwegian team also having to adjust
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: to the hate. It's not that bad. I mean, the
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: last World Cup was in Qatar. Even though it was
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: in winter, it was still in Katar. And that's hell
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: on earth. Alex Stein, thank you so much for your
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: time tonight, and that's all the time we have. I'll
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: see you at eleven tomorrow night. Newsnight is up next