Latest / Sri Aurobindo Studies / Matter, Subtle Matter, the Causative Level and the Ability of Mind-Power or Vital Power to Create, Modify, Influence and Dissolve Material Forms
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- 0:02We tend to look at things from the standpoint of the material
- 0:05formation it has taken. If we look deeper, however, we
- 0:10see that the physical forms are a creation or representation of
- 0:15ideas, forces, or processes that occur on a subtle level and
- 0:21manifest into physical form only at the end of the process of
- 0:25their creation, not their start. The Greek philosopher Plato
- 0:31contemplated that physical forms are not the ultimate reality,
- 0:37but are representations of an idea that has been solidified.
- 0:41Basically, the Taitiria Upanishad takes us through a
- 0:46journey of discovery by a young disciple who wants to understand
- 0:51the nature of reality. He begins with the idea that
- 0:55matter is the reality, but through his concentration he
- 0:59eventually recognizes that matter is a result, not a 'cause
- 1:04he successively goes through several realizations that each
- 1:08represent more subtle causative levels until he eventually
- 1:13reaches the knowledge level and then the bliss level of
- 1:18causation. The Vedic Rishis indicated that
- 1:22Agni, the Mystic fire, was contained within the material
- 1:27forms. Scientists concur, indicating
- 1:31that matter can be converted to energy.
- 1:35Burning of wood or other material substances represents
- 1:39the liberation of the force represented by Agni from the
- 1:43material form within which it is contained.
- 1:48Scientists recognize that matter is actually a solidified form of
- 1:52energy. They also describe various
- 1:55states of matter in a variety of energetic phases.
- 1:59For instance, water can be a solid in the form of ice, a
- 2:04liquid in the form of what we call water, a gas in the form of
- 2:09water vapor in the atmosphere, etcetera.
- 2:12What water actually is at the idea or causative level may be
- 2:18something entirely different. We continue to learn about
- 2:22water, and recently it was revealed by a scientist who has
- 2:26studied the matter that while we consider water to be a conductor
- 2:30of energy, it is actually not the water itself that is a
- 2:34conductor, but various ionic minerals dissolved in the water
- 2:40that are the conductors. Purified water, distilled from a
- 2:44process that combines hydrogen and oxygen atoms without these
- 2:50ionic minerals, is apparently not a conductor of electricity
- 2:55as we generally believe it to be.
- 2:58What indeed is water in its true essence or idea?
- 3:05Numerous individuals have experienced things that defied
- 3:08explanation on the purely material external level, but
- 3:13which makes sense if we accept the subtler and causal states of
- 3:17energy and consciousness. Sri Arubinda related at one
- 3:21point an incident he personally observed.
- 3:25His brother was extremely ill. A wandering Sonyazi came by and
- 3:30saw the brother's status. He asked for a cup of water,
- 3:34which he cut through with an implement.
- 3:37While reciting certain mantras, he bade the brother drink the
- 3:41water. Within a short period of time,
- 3:44the brother quickly recovered from the acute illness.
- 3:49The operations of homeopathic medicines are disputed by
- 3:53allopathic practitioners as they cannot see any physical means of
- 3:57action in these highly diluted substances.
- 4:01Yet they have been shown to work not only on humans but on dogs
- 4:08and horses, thus eliminating the action of what is called the
- 4:12placebo effect by those who need to put a name on a more subtle
- 4:18action that they do not understand.
- 4:21Many people recognize the ability of certain individuals
- 4:25through force of will to gain ascendancy and control over
- 4:30other individuals. This power of will domination
- 4:34can occur without any overt physical control over the
- 4:38individual. Clearly, the operation of mind
- 4:42power on the vital or physical planes is evident and widely
- 4:46observed in this context. An incident highlights this
- 4:51point. A young woman gave birth in a
- 4:54hospital to a baby boy. The nursing staff tried to
- 4:58control access to the child and force vaccinations that the
- 5:01young mother clearly did not want her parents.
- 5:05The child's grandparents were visiting at one point when the
- 5:09nurses attempted to exercise this control over the child
- 5:13against the wishes of the mother.
- 5:16The grandfather of the child focused his attention on the
- 5:19nursing staff while seated at the other end of the room and
- 5:24spoke in a quiet but firm manner, disputing the rights of
- 5:28the nursing staff to control the newborn in the way they wanted
- 5:32to. One of the nursing staff reached
- 5:37saying that the grandfather would be banned from the
- 5:42hospital for attacking her, all while the grandfather was seated
- 5:487 or 8 meters distant and speaking in a quiet voice.
- 5:54Clearly, some other force was operative which the nurse
- 5:57interpreted as a form of pressure or attack, Sri Robindo
- 6:04observes quote. These extraordinary occurrences,
- 6:07which go outside the ordinary course of physical nature,
- 6:11happen frequently in India and are not unknown elsewhere.
- 6:16They are akin to what is called poltergeist phenomena in Europe.
- 6:20Scientists do not speak or think about such supernatural
- 6:24happenings except to Pooh Pooh them or to prove that they are
- 6:28simply the tricks of children simulating supernatural
- 6:31manifestations. Scientific laws only give a
- 6:36schematic account of material process of nature as a valid
- 6:41scheme. They can be used for reproducing
- 6:43or extending at will a material process, but obviously they
- 6:48cannot give an account of the thing itself.
- 6:52Water, for instance, is not merely so much oxygen and
- 6:56hydrogen put together. The combination is simply a
- 6:59process or device for enabling the manifestation of a new thing
- 7:04called water. What that new thing really is is
- 7:07quite another matter. In fact, there are different
- 7:11planes of substance, gross, subtle, and more subtle, going
- 7:17back to what is called causal karana substance.
- 7:23What is more gross can be reduced to the subtle state and
- 7:27the subtle brought into the gross state.
- 7:30That accounts for dematerialization and
- 7:33rematerialization. These are occult processes and
- 7:37are vulgarly described regarded as magic.
- 7:41Ordinarily, the magician knows nothing of the why and wherefore
- 7:44of what he is doing. He has simply learned the
- 7:47formula of process, or else controls elemental beings of the
- 7:51subtler states, plains, or worlds who do the thing for him.
- 7:58The Tibetans indulge widely in occult processes.
- 8:01If you see the books of Madam David Neal, who has lived in
- 8:04Tibet, you will get an idea of their expertness in these
- 8:09things. But also the Tibetan lamas know
- 8:13something of the laws of occult, mental and vital energy and how
- 8:17it can be made to act on physical things.
- 8:21That is something which goes beyond mere magic.
- 8:24The direct power of the mind force or life force upon matter
- 8:29can be extended to an almost illimitable degree.
- 8:33It must be remembered that energy is fundamentally one in
- 8:37all the planes, only taking more and more dense forms.
- 8:43So there is nothing a priori impossible in mind energy or
- 8:47life energy acting directly on material energy and substance.
- 8:52If they do, they can make a material object do things, or
- 8:56rather can do things with a material object, which would be
- 9:01to that object in its ordinary poise or law, unhabitual and
- 9:06therefore apparently impossible. End Quote Reference Shriorobindo
- 9:14and the Mother, The Hidden Forces of Life, Chapter 5.
- 9:18Occult Forces pages one O 2 to one O 3.