Latest / Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela] / Capítulo 068: I'm Doing Good ft. Kat Dahlia

Transcript

Capítulo 068: I'm Doing Good ft. Kat Dahlia · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Radio. Radio Radio Commies a Myth and Bullshit, a radiophonic novella.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Local Radio hosted by malamo Ola La Loca Mortis. Welcome
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: to season three of Local Radios. Because fem revenge has
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: never sounded so sweet. Look at Radio is a radiophonic
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: novella archiving the brilliance and legacies of women and fans
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: of color. I'm Fiosa and I'm Mala, and we are
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: mommies of Myth and Bullshit. Last Radio, a radiophonic novella,
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: which is just a really extra way of saying a podcast.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome back. It's been a hot minute. I'm
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: so excited to be recording today and we chatting with y'all.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you once again for tuning in and for joining
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: us here at Radio Spacio, located um within Espaci nine
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: and Boil Heights. I'm so excited for today's episode same
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about a lot of different
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: things today and then we have a guest and interview
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: for the second half of a special guest, a special guest.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Also this is eight. We just keep on, keep on,
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: keeping on, keep on, keeping on exactly, So before we
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: get into some of the content. We just want to
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: go over some logistics and discuss some upcoming events that
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: we have that are super dope. Some we're a part
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: of and some we're producing ourselves. We are as they say,
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: booked and busy, books and busy. It's probably one of
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: my favorite, UM little little absolutely of the current moment,
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: and um it is very true of our life right now.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: We have a lot going on. The first event that
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: UM is going to be happening the same day that
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: this episode airs. Yes, we're gonna be femcs at Outfest
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: for the Queer Open Mic nine July. Yeah, and that
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: will be as we have just been staying there. We
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: were just there were just last night last night for
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: La Junta's and at Laos event that Lados which we
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: interviewed them in the last But anyway, that will be
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: on July, said Rassa. And it's actually an open mic,
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: so they are taking submission, So if you'd like to
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: share your story, uh, share a poem, share something, um,
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: there's a link that we can share for you to
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: sign up, and we will be the fem cis for
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: that evening. Come on out, Come on out, and then
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: we have more podcasting one oh one workshop. So we
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: have a podcasting one on one workshop at the Venice
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: Library on July July, and that is our last a
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: podcasting workshop with the l A Public Library. So if
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: you have been waiting to go, I haven't been able
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: to make it. This is the last one that will
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: be at the library, so definitely cut try and make
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: that one. It'll be at six thirty at the Venice Library. Yep, yep, yep,
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: come on out. Now is the time. Then we have
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: our very first brunch. We're really excited to launch our brunch.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: It's called Mommy's and Mimosas July at El sid on Sunset. Yeah,
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: and tickets are for sale. There's different tiers that you
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: can purchase your your tickets for the brunch. Um. So
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: there's one tier if you just want like an entree
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: and one mimosa one drink. Um. There's a second one
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: which will all give you to drink tickets, and then
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: there's bottomless mimosas, which is our favor av um. And
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: also what's really cool is that the bottomless is also
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: for Bloody Maria's, Bloody Mary's and also beer, So if
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: you're not a mimosa drinker, there are other options for you.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: Come on out and were millennial pink. If you want,
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: you don't have to you don't have to do. We
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: do encourage the millennial pink, but also always do you
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: where would your constable in? Where would you love you?
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: Um and dj ZOOTI will be spinning yes face and
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: we are going to have a twerque contest that I
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: have forbidden Mala to participate in. Okay, then she'll win.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Let me just say that this rule was already established
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: before we even had a flyer, like for the events
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: ago I was we were like, what are we going
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: to do at the branch right and we were like, well,
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: we should have a chorque contest, And immediately I had
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: to shut it down. I was like, Mala, you can
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: be a judge, you cannot participate. You will win. I'm
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: not allowed. It's not fair to competitively twerk. I will
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: twork for fun and for joy for free, for free,
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: but I will not enter the competition. And you hose
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: are lucky. So come on now check out the event, bright,
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: get your tickets, come to my muse and mimosas yes
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: and then um, next event is actually an August event.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: We are joining La Leaf the Los Angeles Latino International
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: Film Festival for the second time. August four, which is
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: a Sunday, at three pm. We will be or I
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: will be leading a conversation of Latica with who is
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: the creat and director of Mosquita Imadi And it's set
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: in Southeast Los Angeles in Huntington's Park and it's a
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: queer coming of age story. It's super great. So I'm
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: really excited to be moderating that conversation along with Moissa Samoa,
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: who is the creator of the up and coming Netflix
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: show Selena. Who how exciting. Yeah, it's gonna be great
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: and it's free, so just all you have to do
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: is rs v P and you know, catch us there. Yeah,
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm dying to know who they cast as
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: Selena same who could it be? Like she has to
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: be perfect, she has to be like she really does,
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: because people are going to be really upset if it's
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: not cast choice. It's gotta be She's gotta be perfect, body, voice, charisma, looks, dancing, singing.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: It's a it's amity. That's a big role. That's one
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: of those role of the century role. But it created
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: Jalo's career the entire like, she's still writing off of
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: that movie. It's been years. And also, um I remember
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: what I don't remember, but um I remember hearing about
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: later that people were really upset that Jalo was cast
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: because she was not Mexican. You know, she's Puerto Rican, right, so,
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: and that's not really a thing for me. I don't
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: think that's an issue. No, you know, she just has
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: to be able to do it and look the part
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: and be Latina, and that's a prerequisite. She has to be.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: She can't not be. It's just not possible, right. I
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: wonder I'm really curious if they get a Texan, if
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: they find out they had, that would be cool, that
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: would be ideal. I think I'm also wondering if maybe
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: even like an indigenous woman actor actress. You know, I
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: just need the rhythm and the dancing to be on point,
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: you know some of that. I feel like you have
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: to grow up with it. Yeah, totally, you know, Yeah,
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: so you're not moving all still. Yeah, anyway, we digress,
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: We digress. Whoever you are, I can't wait to like, no,
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: you know, right, if you're out there, if you're listening,
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: So if you want to hear more about Latina representation
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: on TV. Definitely come out and check this conversation that
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: I'll be having with La Leif on August four. Yes,
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: I won't be there because I'm going to be in
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: your Yeah, I'm going on a little euro trip with Massis. Yeah,
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: that'll be so super cute. I've already put in my
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: request for the statement earrings. Yea, so absolutely, Yeah. I
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: hopefully something from Morocco. I can find some nice piece.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: I think you all. Mama also has gone into the
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: habit of bringing me things from Peru, well not from Peru,
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: but like little like souvenirs that that were sourced from Peru. Um.
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: She brought me the other day a little a little
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: guinea pig. It's so cute. That's made out of alpaca wools.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: I saw it and I was like, I need that
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: guinea pig. This is for the sad. She needs the
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: guinea thing. I have it in my room and I
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Loki feel like there's a little camera in said, there's
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: not that there would be, but I did not that
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: there would be, not that you would do that obviously,
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: but it looks like one of those items that you
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: can put a little camera in the eyes and like
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: just move around. That's really funny. I should put one
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: in there and watch teeth like right during the day.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: The shenanigans that he gets us to, I know, oh
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: my God. To our sponsors. A word from our sponsors, UM.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: As you know, we love UM sexual health, sexual health
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: and sexual wealth, and so we we love, we love
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: our partnership with the Blue me Um Latina owned and
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: curated sexual health and wellness products. UM. Make sure and
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: check out our code look at what a tend to
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: get your sexual health products at a discount. We just
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: got around of vibrators the other day. They're amazing. They're
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: really good. It's really good. I like use mine recently
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: and I have the fin and I really like it
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: because it goes on your fingers perfect and it's just
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: really convenient and it's small, you know, like specifically for
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: clip stimulation. And I really like it because you can
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: use it with a partner like seamlessly. It's not like
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: bulky and we'll get in the way or like you
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you can do other things
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: while also using it. So I really enjoy it. Very handy. UM.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: I have the brand UH, the brand vibrator that I
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: have is called Palm p o M and it really
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: does just kind of fit in the palm of your hand,
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: and it's like very squishy and flexible, and it like
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: kind of I think replicates a tongue a little bit,
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: and it's just really it's I like the texture of
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: the material. I'm so down for this vibrator. So check
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: out the Blue Me go online. Yes, see their stuff. Um,
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: look at thot a ten get your goods. Also, they
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: have more than vibrators, you know, they have like sexual
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like intimate care hygiene products so you know,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: organic tampons, pads, condoms, basically, they like all of this
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: stuff you don't want going into your vulva, they have it.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: They have like the the right products that you should
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: be using. The Blue Me They have sent tests, like cleansers,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: you know, like very gentle like genital cleansers and things
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: like that, breast oils to stimulate your breasts, all kinds
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: of things, all kinds of things. Love it. This is
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite partnerships. Yeah, yeah, Like what can
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: be better vibrator brand sponsorship? What could be better than this?
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Living the dream like vibrators, you know, healthy products and
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: lipsticks as well from our other sponsor or brand partnership,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: which is Viva Cosmetics. We love cosmetics, our favorite Latino
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: own beauty, Brandy, best Proof lipsticks and other proof, other things,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: other things. You're gonna do a lot with these, with
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: these Viva Cosmetic products. So our code use uh look
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: a motives to get fifteen percent off of your order.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: So that's Viva Locomotives. Is the code percent off your order? Yes, alrighty,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: so onto the next Yes, um, remember to Venmos, Yes,
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: remember to Venmos. If you like this free content. Let
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: us remind y'all out there are beautiful, lovely look how
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: motive is who we cherish. Um. But this ship is free, bitch,
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: and just remember that. Just remember that. It's funny because
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: I listened. I listened to a decent and Marrow and
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: will say things like, you know, like I think we
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: repeated this joke. But you know what, it's free. It's free,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: so you're getting free content and it's so funny. That's
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite things right now. It's like, okay,
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: well it's free. So there you go. The hidden Lord.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: We have a little story we'll share later. Inn and
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: it makes sense. But anyway, this ship is free, bitch,
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: so hit us, hit us on venmo at, look at
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: thought at dash radio if you want to contribute, even
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: when we get little donations five bugs, ten bugs? Oh
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: my god, should we tell the Chicago st Okay? So
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: we went to Northwestern, right, because right went to Northwestern
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: to give a keynote and ship a live podcast, and
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: we went to Chicago and like both of us had
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: like no money, like to our names, no money in
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: our accounts, no money, no money. And then in the
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: podcast account because we have a little joint like, look
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: at that account, no money in the look at that account.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: No money. And so we were like I was, I
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: was in the airport, right, and we're on are we
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: to Chicago? And we're like, how the funk are we
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: going to get around and survive? Like how we gonna
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: get places? We have zero dollars? I was like, also,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: like my job, we don't have direct deposit because it
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: turned around is like so high, right, So I have
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: to physically get a check. And pay day was on
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Friday and I was in Chicago, so I literally didn't
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: have a check to cash because it was in l A,
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: not in Chicago. Majorly inconvenient um. And so I'm when
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: we're in the airport on our way and I'm like, Okay,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna post our
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Instagram story to remember that we have a venmo. Anyone
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: wants to donate our indie project. I'm like, some bitches
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: are going to donate, and we're going to have some
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: money and we'll be fine. Nobody donated, except we get
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: a notification that our friend Hobby Mendoza sent us ten
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: dollars and we were like, face Pom, not you, Hobby.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: You helped us with everything, not you, Hobby. It was
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: too funny, you know. We have been following on the budget.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like have so many projects in the works
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: that like behind the scenes projects that we haven't launched yet,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: and all of our money has been going to that. Plus,
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: like we don't pay ourselves, we pay our team exactly.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: It's expensive out here too, just to live and survive. Yeah,
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, damn, I love doing my nails, but lord,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: this is this is the podcast budget. The nails are
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: now a part of the podcast budget because now a
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: part of the BRANDE Like this is just what it
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: goes into it. This is what it takes. But it
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: was really yeah, but we finessed that weekend. That weekend,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: we went out, we drank, we did everything. We got
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: to my paduana listeners as to take care of us.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: They gave us right, gave me bisco all night. They did.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you were dead the next day. Was dead.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Had not been that hungover, probably since I was. We
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: we barely made it to the airport. I don't know
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: how I made it to the airport. I were a
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: dress that was way too short. We almost start flashing
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: out and I, like mama, couldn't run through the airport.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Like when we got there, they were like, oh my god,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: we were about to close the doors and give your
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: seats away. Was like, no, we have no money. We
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: have to go back home. Literally we have in Chicago.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: We don't have any money, We have no choice, and
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: we have to come. We made it anyway. That is
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: like some insight into some behind the scenes ships that
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: happens that none of y'all see. The daft girl on
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: the ground that doesn't even go onto the podcast. But
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: we are some messy bitches sometimes, but we always make
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: it work. Make it work. We're resourceful. Shout out to
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: my friend Melissa, who like us to lunch, and she's
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: like in a fool adult, like a grown up, you know,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: like she is like a woman that has a home,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: runs a nonprofit is like super dope. I met her
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: in undergrad she was doing her PhD actually, and so
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: she took us a lunch, dropped us off at the airport,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: paid for lunch, dropped us off at the airport, and
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was like, if you miss your flight, call me and
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I'll come back and pick you up. Thankfully we made it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: But shout out to my girl Melissa. She's a homegirl
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: for sure, No, for sure, for sure. Like so many
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: heads came through for us yet again as usual, women
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: take care of women anyway. So onto our favorite segment
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: and one of our favorite topics because it keeps coming
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: up because our listeners keep asking us about it. Is
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: what the ASA living at home question that we got
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: this week? Um, I actually think Molla you received it personally,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: but he wanted to bring it today because it comes
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: up a lot. The question is do you live at home?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: If not, were your parents ever offended or try to
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: dissuade you from getting your own place right? And so
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: also context whenever we open up our our ourselves for questions,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and even when we don't, we get this question all
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the time. Our listeners are always asking and different listeners.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: So like recently I got a question in my d
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: M S the ASA, you got a question, right, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: then as a podcast, we're always getting this question. So
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I just think it's really interesting and I bring that
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: up to say, like our demographic like Latina's what forty
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: basically like this is what's on our minds, like, this
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: is what we're navigating and dealing with. So the reason
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: why we talk about it is because our listeners ask
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: us to bring it up right. Um, And we do
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: live at home. So for me, I do live at home.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I have my own apartment behind my grandmother's house. Right,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Like my grandmother is my landlord, so like I have
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: my own space, I pay rent um, but I'm with
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: my family, you know, like there's still like there's still
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: only minimal privacy in a lot of ways. Um. And
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: so my parents never have necessarily dissuaded me from getting
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: my own place, but they always made it clear that
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: they wanted me to be at home. Um for a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. But what dissuaded me from like
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: branching out and getting my own place. Is money number one,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: first and foremost. We live in l a Um. It's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: really expensive, and so it makes the most sense for me,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and all I can speak about is for myself to
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: live at home, right. I also think, like I'm trying
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to be very cognizant of the fact, like if I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: were to move out, am I going to be a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: hent the fire? Like? Am I going to like move
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: into somewhere to someplace that like a family was living
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in and was like pushed out because the rent was
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: too high? And you know, you know what I mean,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Like I'm very I try to be very cognizant of that,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: especially like we rerecording Bowl Heights. We're from like you know, different,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: We're from different communities. I'm in Southeastly, Mala's in mid City,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So thinking about that, like where, um, where would I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: even go if I moved out? You know what I mean? Ethically?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Where would I go? You know? My partner lives in
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the South Bay. Like geographically we're really spread out, like
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Mala and I just in general, like where we live
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: or work, where we take meetings, like all those kinds
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of things. We're all over the city, all over the city. Um,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: so I think that's what I think about when I
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: think of moving out. But I still live at home.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I've moved back in and um, my parents never I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: don't think it's really been It's kind of been like
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: an unspoken thing, like no one has said like, yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you're going to come back home. But financially I had
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to go back home. Yeah I didn't. Literally, yeah what
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it was. I had to go back home. And I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: also like saw that my parents were like going through
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: some stuff and I was like, okay, I need to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: go back home. There. I like, I moved away, went
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to college, did the thing, applied for jobs in the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Bay actually, um, and then I like something keep calling
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: me back home. So I moved back to l A.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: You know. So, yeah, my parents have never dissuaded me.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I do feel like, um, a pressure, because a pressure
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to stay now that I am, I feel more pressure
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to stay now, not that not that, Yeah, I feel
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a pressure to stay now. I would say, yeah. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: think for me, my my parents want me to be
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: able to save as much money as I can so
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that I can, like I can comfortably have my own
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: spot and maybe like maybe it's a house, who knows,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's a condo that I own, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm down for that. I would rather be in a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: position where if I'm paying a landlord or if I'm
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: paying for my living space, that I'm investing in my
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: space and I'm like moving towards ownership, you know, if
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be spending the money I want, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: want it to be on something that will be mine hopefully.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So we it's funny because so we got a d
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: M from a listener who like had like a like
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a qualm, as she put it, with something that we
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: talked about in a previous episode. And um, she wrote
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a lot, like many many paragraphs right about this topic
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: about living at home because we we've again we've talked
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: about this so many times. I feel like we've talked
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: about this a lot um, and she had a qualm
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and she was basically saying, like we made a comment
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: about how, oh, like if you move out, you're going
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to be paying money to white landlords and who is
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that benefiting in this that and the other. She didn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: like the tone of it because she lives abroad and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: she's like a working adult and so she wanted like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: clarification or something. I don't know really what she wanted,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: but she wanted to bring up that she didn't like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: our take on that, and I'm just And then in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: my responses to her, I was like, UM, I kind
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of don't even remember what you're talking about because we've
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: recorded so many hours of audio. Um, we've talked about
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this so many times. Also, do you there's no way
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to be a bad Latin X, like live your life,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: keep up the good work for data. The question I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: think was something like, am I a bad Latin X
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for like choosing not to live at home? And absolutely not, Like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: first of all, we never use that language of bad
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: or good. Second of all, we're very lucky that we
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: have that we're able to move back into our homes,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: like we don't. You know, I can speak for myself, obviously,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I can speak for herself. There are some toxic things
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about my family life, like about my home life. Um,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but I can live there, like it's something that I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: can I can still do. There are folks that are displaced,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: There are folks that have really horrible relationships with family,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and for their own survival, they can't move back home,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you know, so like we understand that. So we never say, like, oh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you should move back home, so you're not giving you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: money to a landlord. That's really not what we said.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I say about myself exactly, and like like
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we said, this ship is free, bitch, So relax, re
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: fucking lax, you know, I think like you can whoever
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: whoever is listening, like our listeners that are tuning in now, Like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: however you decide to interpret our information or what we share, like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that's that's how you interpret it, and that's how you
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: decide to apply it to your life or not. The
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: end of the day, The biggest takeaway that I want
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: our listeners to have is that you have full agency
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to decide what you do with your life, and you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: have the authority to make decisions that are best for you,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and you have the agency to be the author of
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: your life. That's it. That's it, period. If you listen
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to no more episodes, which I hope you do, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: if you don't, I want that to be the biggest takeaway. Nope,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: never do we say you're a bad this or that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Do you women need to exercise your agency? In Latino families,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: we don't we're not given agency, so exercise your agency
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in whatever way possible. And what that looks like for you? Yeah? Absolutely.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And also I don't give a fun what you do.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I just don't care that much. I don't know, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, like love you, appreciate you, thank
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you for tuning in. But it's this kind of like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: thing where I would like for people to just like
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: kind of let the audio be the audio, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and not derive too much, not try and and and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and take too much meaning out of every single thing.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You know, we say here and talk a lot of ship.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know what it becomes an
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: issue when something is like nitpicked and that's what's going on.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But you said us, and now you're saying that, I'm like,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what I said exactly. It's three years,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and this question wasn't it picking at us? Yeah?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: So it was really strange. Um And you know, unfortunately,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: like those are the kinds of messages where it then
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: makes this question like should we not even be answering
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: d M S anymore? Right? You know, because then it's like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: why are you interrogating me? I don't even know who
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you are? And you know all this these details about
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: us because we've shared, right, We've shared these details, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this is something that I talked about. I did a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: story after this based off of this, like this exchange
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: with this move ahead, because it was really unsettling, to
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: be honest, and I had to tell her like the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: nitpicking at our content and asking us questions about like
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: moves we made in our lives, like it was very
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: interrogation style, and I was like, this is making me uncomfortable,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like chill. So I did a story on it. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, as listeners, keep these numbers in mind,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: keep this situation in mind. We hit our five thous
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: in all time listens mark. That's half a million listens.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of people like listening to what we're saying.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: We've been recording for three years or we just were
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: this has got beat the low sixty eight, right, Each
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: episode is is some Sometimes we have episodes that are
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: over an hour long. So I bet you we've recorded
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like at least a hundred hours of audio since we've
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: been recording. Right, We have over nineteen thousand followers on
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the look at account. We have ten k plus followers
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on each of our individual accounts. That's thousands and thousands
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of people engaging with our words constantly, or engaging with
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: like details about our lives that we choose to share.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: But I say all this to remind you all that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you all know a lot more about us than we
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: will ever know about you. And it's an uneven exchange.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So when you like have somebody who's like art that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you like, or you have a podcaster that you listen to,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: just keep that in mind and like, don't take information
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that an artist has shared with you and to like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: weaponize it against them, you know, like do you like
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: us or do you not like us? Right? Do you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: like us? Or do you want to come for us?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah it was. It was very strange,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and you know, I wish her well. Yeah she followed
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: us and fed us, but all I said, your life
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: do you? It was really interesting. But anyway, that brings
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: us to our final question. Um, so I want to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thank this listener. She was super vulnerable in this d M.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And she stays that she's a new listener and she's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and lives with her mom. And
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: she says, my mom is a single mother who cleans
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: houses and is getting into the habit of giving of
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: keeping everything that is given to her by her patrons,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and it's causing a hoarding problem. I love my mom
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and all, but it's a tiny apartment and it's not
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: feeling like a home anymore. I have tried talking to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: her about it, but we just end up fighting. It's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: getting to the point where I hate being home and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want to move out and leave my mom
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: alone because I'm afraid it'll get worse. Any advice as
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to what I should do? So this such an interesting
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: UM question and situation because and we've talked about this,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: but I've noticed that, um, there's a lot of us
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: with family members who have hoarding tendencies. So, like my
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: grandmother definitely is a very organized hoarder, and my grandma
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: also cleaned houses um for white people, and like you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: she also like treasures, all things that like pictures of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: them and cards and things that remind her of them
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: or gifts that they've given her. And I have a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: friend whose grandmother is definitely a hoarder, and I like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: walked into her grandmother's house once and it was like
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: very overwhelming, you know, like rooms that you can't enter.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And these are women who are Mexican women, right, Um,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and so I feel like what I've learned is you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: kind of have to let them be, Like you can't
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: force them to get rid of their things. It's not
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: going to work out. They will respond very negatively, like
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: they will be very defensive. It really is like kind
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of I don't I can't diagnose things, but it really
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: is an issue that require is like a therapist. Um,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: So I would you know, recommend a mediator, a counselor
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a therapist if it's accessible. Um. There is a podcast
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: called Latin x Therapy and she actually does an episode
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: on hoarding, So I think that that's something that you
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: should check out. So that she I'm sure she has
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: recommendations on how to approach this conversation. Yeah, because I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: would just say that, like, be careful of taking this
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: on as like your personal battle. I know this involves
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: your living space and so there has to be like
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a level of compromise there. So conversation is really important.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know where your mom is at, like what
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: level she is, you know, with her situation, but like
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: definitely have a conversation with her and explain about like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: your space and like you need space, I think, Um,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: but don't let this become a horrible wedge in your
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: relationship with your mother, because I just think that it's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: just a really touchy sort of dynamic like a Senora
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and her things. You know, Um, don't mess with the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: senora things. She doesn't like it, you know. So it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: so tricky. I wish you well. I wish you the best,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: because that's hard, that's really hard. I would approach it
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: with like gentleness, lots of gentleness, like ease, and like
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: maybe being aware that you might have to just maybe
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: take a pause at the conversation and like pause there
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and walk away from it kind of thing, like something
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: that you do in like almost increments, you know. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like a compromise to be made,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like is she willing to invest in a storage unit
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to put her she can keep her things, but can
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: she put them somewhere else? Can they live somewhere else,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: or even just a little I don't know, if there's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like a little like cabinet armadrio type like this is
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: where you can you can keep all your things, but
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this is where they have to go, you know, just
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: ways to share the space. Yeah, good luck girl, luck girl.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: That's hard. That's really hard. Okay, thank you for that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: questions So they feel cleansed, right, So moving forward, moving on,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: we are in our multidimensional whole quarter as we wanted
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to talk about something that has been all of our
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: social media and that really fucking grinds are gears some
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: craziness Ice Bay. First of all, um, I don't even
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: know where to begin. I don't know where to begin.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So to recap who is Ice Bay for listeners, dumb bitch.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: There was a photo that was circulating and it was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: of who was it, Mike Pence, Mike Pence and other
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: senators and shipp whoever. They were white men who ran
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: our country and ruined lives. They were there visiting one
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of the concentration camps where asylum seekers are being held.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And there was an ICE agent, a Latina who was
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: in the photo right and Um, when that photo started circulating,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: people automatically started talking about her like, you know, salute
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to our Latina, like Ice agents and that that, and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: then people I felt like she was very attractive, so
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they started to call her Ice. They dubbed her Ice Bay,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they dubbed her Ice Bay so offensive and it's become
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like a viral thing, and I think that she's probably
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get some press. She's going to get some press,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: She's going to do some interviews probably because it also
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: like it behooves the fucking um the government government look
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: at this security Ice that's like, oh, there's a Latina
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: like that people are proud of and like see yeah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: latin X folks wanted to exactly you know what I mean,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the headline rights itself like America falls in love with
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: beautiful Latina Ice Agent. Honestly the f so you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we wanted to bring this up during specifically during this
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: episode under the multidimensional whole quarter because this is is
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: not multidimensional hosts correctly, this is wrong. Wrong, this is wrong.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: She's using her powers for evil, y'all, like, and it's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: not acceptable. It's yeah, like jokes aside, like this is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: some bullshit. Like first of all, the men, all right,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: our weakest link, like men of color are the weakest link.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: They're the weakest link because they're the ones that are
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like propelling her forward, pushing her forward, giving her all
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the likes and giving sending her all the thirsty comments
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and like, now, look so bad bitches. I did a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: rant about this on my story as well because this
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: also upset me. Bad bitches are supposed to use our
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: powers for good, not evil. And when I say our powers,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I really mean our privilege, like the privilege that meeting
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: society's beauty standards offers you. Right, So you can use
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: those privileges to like advocate on behalf of people, to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: help redistribute resources to get what you want. But what
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: do you want? And is it like for the greater good? Right?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't appreciate women who like will utilize like
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: their identity in that way to cause harm. That's not acceptable.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: You need to utilize your privilege, leverage it for positive things.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And this is not positive. This is not positive. Yeah,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: these are like actual concentration camps that are being run,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and Homegirl is about to become the face of it, right,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: like literally she already is becoming the face of it,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: kind of like there are examples of women in history,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: like what's her face? Cook Oceanelle? Didn't cok Ocechanelle? Help?
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: She wasn't she like a Nazi sympathizer? Didn't she like
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: contribute to Nazi causes? So that's another example. This bad
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: bitch extremely influential in the beauty world, in women's beauty right,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: using her powers, her influence, her privilege, her money for evil.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: There's it's a thing. And like women, beautiful women are
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: allowed to get away with a lot of things because
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that's the privilege kicking in, shielding one from consequences even
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: when you're doing harm. Right, So I spay not down,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: don't like it. And she was wearing terrible acid wash.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: She should have stayed in with the five buttons. We
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: usually don't come for women's clothing, but in this situation,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to go there, right. And the thing is
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like she really doesn't know what she's doing, you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like she because she has made a
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: couple of videos since then, and she like tries to
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: appear like very aloof like, oh, I don't know what
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'm new to this, I'm need to Twitter,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I'm need to that all this stuff, but like that
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: just contributes to like the allert of like, oh see,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she hasn't even had a Twitter, Like she hasn't been
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: tainted by like Twitter, and like all social justice warriors gleam.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So she's just a regular girl. Literally, Yeah, these are
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the thoughts, these are the comments, and it's just very
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: frustrating and infuriating when there are so many you know,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: refugees in these cages or these concentration children, and then
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you see our women of color, are people of color,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: black folks um protesting, you know, trying to like get
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: these people out, Holocaust survivors giving all their fucking resources,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you know, to like dismantle this, and like then you
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: have these you know, this woman and all the other
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: people and all the other women and all the other
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: men and all the other folks that are involved. You know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it's just so frustrating. And look, you know that what's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: going on is fucked up when both Japanese and old,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: elderly Japanese internment survivors and Holocaust survivors are coming out
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to say this is fucked up, protesting, shut it down.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: That's all I need to know. You're telling me in
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Terming camp and Holocaust survivors are coming, elderly people are
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: coming out to tell us this is wrong, it's wrong,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: it's wrong, and shut it down. So yeah, cancel Ice Bay.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Don't give her any cloud y'all, don't get any cloud
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I have kind of been like looking at her profile
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: here and there every couple of days because I'm just
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I'm so like she's growing in followers, right, this bitch
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: has more followers than we do. She does overnight night.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And I've just been watching it because I think it's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: just a really interesting case study as to what the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: funk is going on in this country, you know, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: like the folks that are in support and the type
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of people that they are, you know, and like it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: just wild to me to watch it unfold. It's a
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: huge mess. Yeah that Like I'm just like at a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: loss for words, you know, I'm just like, this is
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: where the funk we are, Like when we are, it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: so backwards, like it's all like hell fire and you
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: know what, Fox Me Up is still going back to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the elderly like survivors, right, protesting and stuff. They've been
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: dealing with this bullshit forever and it's still happening. Like
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this has already happened. People were alive to like go
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: through all this bullshit. I think of like like John
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Lewis right, right, yes, he's seen it's he's still dealing
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: with this bullshit with racism and oppression, it's been his
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: entire life, Like these people have seen this their entire lives,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and it makes me very sad. It does make me
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: really sad. Yeah, because it's just this uphill, uphill battle,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you know it like stops for no one. White supremacy
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: is evil. It's a takeaway speaking of white supremacy. This
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: is a good secon. Lots of feelings, So let's get
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: into it. Not only were we upset by Ice Bay,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: this is kind of going into like a weird things
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: White women did this Week type segment. Um so uh.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: An article was published by none other than The New
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: York Times. UM writer Jennifer Miller wrote an article called
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: have We Hit Peak? Podcast? And you know what, I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: just noticed it's in the style section. That's weird, Yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: but m fascinating thickens. So um, have we hit peak? Podcast?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Miller July and I saw on Twitter because people
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: were already reacting to this, then I read it. I'm
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: going to read the first couple of paragraphs to y'all
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: because this is what set us off. In Morgan Mandriota
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and Lester Lee to freelance writers looking to grow their
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: personal brands, decided to start a podcast. They called it
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the Advice Podcast and put about as much energy into
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: the show's production as they did the name. After all,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: no one was paying them for this. Yet each week
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the friends, neither of whom had professional experience dispensing advice,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: met in a free room at the local library and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: recorded themselves chatting with an iPhone five. We assumed we'd
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: be huge, have affiliate marketing deals and advertisements, miss Mandriota said,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But six episodes in, when neither Casper Mattresses nor me
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Andy's had come knocking, the friends quit. Today. Miss Mandriota says,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the same d I Y spirit that made having a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: podcast alluring is precisely what dooms the project. You can
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: talk about the trees outside as much as you want,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: but if you're not going to serve listeners and do
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it in a way that's engaging, your chances of going
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: viral are low, she said, calling her show the most
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: makeshift podcast with mediocre advice. Now. These are the opening
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: paragraphs to Jennifer Miller's article in The New York Times,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: where she's basically talking about how the podcast market is saturated,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: how podcasts. Some statistic that she quotes that only like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: nine of podcast put out new episodes between like May
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and July of this year, So like, there's tons of podcasts,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: but there's not they're not there's not a lot of
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: longevity or are there too many? And so she uses
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: an example to like prove her point and her argument
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: make her argument about the future of podcasting being bleak
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and there's too many and the bubble is bursting. She
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: uses as an example of the health of podcasting this
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: woman and her friend Lester and their failed podcast that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: they didn't complete after six episodes. These people do not
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: have an active podcast, and yet they have a write
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: up in The New York Times delving into their podcasting
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: work as if it's some indicator of the podcasting landscape.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: When again, these people don't have a podcast. It kisses
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: me on it's irresponsible journalist journalism, like this is what
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: journalism is at right now? Like that it makes me question,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: like this is what we're this is what we're doing now?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Is this? This is what I have to write to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: get into the New York Times? Right? This is it?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: This is excellence? Is what I can do Because I'm
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: not white? This is the standard? Actually some bullshit. So
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: because I'm like this doesn't have a podcast? How did
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: this author even find out about her? I did some
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: search searching on Twitter because I will follow a thread
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: for all of it and I will click on all
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the threads that are happening within the thread. So that
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: is how I do my Twitter research. Okay, so this one,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: so someone was like like who's Like who did your
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: dad know? Is basically what they asked, like who do
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you know? Like how did you get how did you
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: get this feature if you don't have an active podcast?
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So she's apparently replied to a question on LinkedIn, but
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it was it was still like there was a link
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like there was someone. Then someone then referred her kind
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: of thing. So the question of Lincoln was like did
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you have a podcast? And stop? So that was like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: how this author put out the question and how she
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: vetted her her subjects was did you have a podcast?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And stop? But if you stopped, then how is it
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the future of podcasting? Exactly? Well, I mean the argument
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: is that podcasting is going nowhere or it's bleak because
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: people just stop it. That's I mean, that's what she's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: getting at, right, and like people will just stop after
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: six episodes, So that's like kind of where the future is.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: It's so dumb, though, because is that not true of
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: every medium and every idea, every start How many startups
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: started up and then stopped. How many people started writing
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a book and then stopped. How many people thought they
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: were going to become an actor and then stopped. It's
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the failure to launch is true in every single sector,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: every single sector. Yeah, And you know what really bothers
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: me is that the tone of this just really discourages
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: folks from entering a medium that is changing, that's evolving,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that hasn't really been institutionalized yet. So it really bothers
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: me that it's really discouraging that it makes it almost
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: makes a joke. It's like the butt of the joke
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: is like, oh, everyone has a podcast, you know, And
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that really bothers me because podcast saying is can be
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a really accessible tool for folks of color, for folks,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for low income folks, for folks that are mobilizing that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: our community organizing, you know. So it really bothers me
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that this is the take and this is the angle
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: exactly when we know that our hand there are folks
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: have are like using this medium or social media or
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter or whatever, it may be like this
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: kind of grassroots indie y thing, like this is what
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: it's used for, and I don't know now that people
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of color are doing it. It's like what bleak. I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly, it's like not. I think it's not
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that the market is saturated. It's that the market is
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: too brown. It's too brown and too black. They don't
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: like it anymore. And here's the thing, like, how are
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you going to say that it's podcasting is dead? We
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: posted to our Instagram and to our Twitter. We did
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a threat kind of in response. Then we posted to
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: our Instagram to further elaborate. But we do so much
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: with this vehicle, Like we do so much and we're
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: doing so well. If we can tute our own horn
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: for a second. I mean, we hosted throughout the city
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of Los Angeles eleven separate podcasting workshops through the public library,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and all of them were extremely well attended. Yeah, we
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: had about thirty people at each, Like on the ground
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: in real life, people are showing up because they want
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to know and they want to learn and they want
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to start their podcast. Like there is interest in the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: streets in the world, like it's out there. But you've
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: gotta be willing to talk to people of color to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: find out that story and to know that this is
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: going on. Um, you gotta be able to talk to
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: indie creators. We throw an event, everybody shows up. We
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: throw a party. It's sold out. Like we can mobilize
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: people in real life. The read has a show, Jesus
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and Marrow have a show. Now they're on showtime. They
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: all started out as podcasters, Like, how are you going
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to tell me? How are you going to tell me
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: that the future is bleak? Look at the launching pad right, Well,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: these are also people of color exactly doing the podcast.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: You've gotta be willing to see it's like cognitive dissonance.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: How do you look at the media landscape and be
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: tuned in, plugged in in any way and not realize
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that podcasting has launched media platforms for tons of people.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Even fucking Joe Budden, who I can't stand, has found
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: huge success with his podcast you know So, and like
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: revamped his whole fucking image and like got back out there.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Um but yeah, like it's just tells me a lot
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: about how white writers and journalists the internet is segregated.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: The media landscape is segregated there there don't see it
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: or they don't recognize it. But it's not that it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: not happening definitely, And you know it's like folks never
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: say that, you know, media, TV, film, screenwriting, novels, books, poetry, whatever,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: is oversaturated. It is. And that's every market is because
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: everyone is trying to create something. There are billions of
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: people in the world, like you know it, just it
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense all the streaming services or those oversaturated.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Should people just stop making shows? Everyone stopped? There's too many?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: No more. No, that's not how this ship works. So anyways,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: if you're a journalist out there, come interview some real
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: fucking podcasters, because we put out our episodes every month
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: without fail, consistently, we do our events. We're out here sucking, hustling.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any excuses. I don't want
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to see no more fucked up articles about mediocre bitches
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: who don't do their work and then complain about it. No. Yeah,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I saw someone on Twitter to say, like, oh, failing
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: upward is also for white women, white men, But I'm like, wow,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: this woman has a full last photo in the New
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: York Times for not having a podcast. Um, and here
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we are. What are we doing? What are we doing?
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Are we working too hard? They were working too hard.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: We're working way too hard. That ship bucks me up, girl.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: The workshops, the keynotes, the traveling and having our day jobs.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: We do way too much. We need fucking vacations honestly, damn.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: But we love it, the labor love. We want to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: do this full time. That's also why we hustle so hard,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: like we want to be able to leave the day
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: jobs at some point and have longevity in it. Yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: so you know, it is what it is, but we
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: don't like it. We don't like it. So anyways, pitch us,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: pitch us to all the journalists. Pitch us, pitch us,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: pitch us at the New York Times, at the l
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: A Times. Because I don't know. It's funny too, because
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I see stuff like this gets published. But sometimes when
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: we do reach out to journalists, they're like, oh, no,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: will pass. We don't really like um vet journalists, Like
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that's not really something that we do. Like journalists have
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: very much approached us, but we know that that's its
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: own thing. Like people will have like a pure person
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: on their team that like email email, email, email, and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: they reach out and like, eventually something does bite. We
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: just don't have that capacity to do that. It's a
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: lot of work, um, shout out to people to do Yeah,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: but you know, it's just we have been very blessed
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: in the sense that when folks have reached out to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: us to write about us, you know, and again they've
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: all been women of color. All the journalists that have
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: covered us have been women of color, which tells us
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: a lot too about Like, if people of color are
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: not in the newsroom, then the people of color who
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: are creating and who are making art and creating culture
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: will not be written about because white people do not
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: write about us. Men do not write about us. If
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it was only men of color in newsrooms, our projects,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: our businesses, our initiatives would not be covered. No, they
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: still wouldn't be there. They still wouldn't be there. Women
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: of color must be in the newsroom, writing covering stories journalism.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the Latinos who are doing it. I mean,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite writers and journalists and the first
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: editor to publish any of my work, Marjua Estevez. Um incredible, Um,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I mean Maria Yousa. You know, like there's aman del Cantara. Yeah, um,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: there's Latina, Raquel, Raquel, Marie Las Maria La Stadio. She
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: shared this really great story that we all grow about
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: how when she was a journalist that she, um, you know,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: told her editors that she wanted to be editor in
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: chief of a magazine and like people would laugh at
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: her kind of thing. And now she's the editor in
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: chief of Latina and online publication. So yeah, you know.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: So Elaine Walter Worth has her book. She was editor
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: in chief at teen Vogue. Like, there are women of
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: color doing it, but they have to be there or
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: else the on the ground, the stories will not be covered.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: That's one of the major takeaways what I've learned through
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: this podcasting process for sure. All Right, so moving on,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: we have a word from our sponsors before we go
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: into a song break and bring on our guests. This
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: has been along up with the law. I hope y'all
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: are still tuning in. Spen a minute, Spent a minute, alright,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: So a quick word from our sponsors, Therapy fore latin X.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: We're taking a moment to shout out therapy for latin
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: X that uses the latest technology to make it as
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: easy as possible for people to find therapist, life coaches,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: emergency mental health centers and free, low cost community clinics.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: We highly recommend checking out their online database. They're growing database.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: They have been putting events on they have been doing
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: live videos and chats with mental health experts and therapists.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: So recommend following them. Therapy for latin X. Check out
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: their dat their database, their online database, and you know
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: we are all about mental health conversations, the glow up,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: self care and self love. Putting yourself first and going
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: to therapy is one way that you can do that. Absolutely,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: thank you Therapy for latin X for your support and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the service that you provide to the community. So before
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: we get into our song break, we're going to introduce
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: our interview guest. Uh. You may remember her. She had
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a hit song called Gangster that came out in two
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. Cat Dahlia is known for her razor sharp
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: lyrics and distinct flow. This Cuban American songstress created a
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: lane for herself when she popped on the scene a
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: few years back with hit singles Gangster and I Think
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I'm in Love, which collectively amassed over two hundred million plays.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: After a two year hiatus from releasing music, where Cats
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: spent time redefining her musical purpose, collaborating with other artists,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and creating a new lane for herself. Cat shares her
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: latest offering, a bilingual project pulling from her Latin roots
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: fused with R and B and pop rhythms. So we're
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: gonna bring on Cat for a conversation about her new
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: music after the song break friends and friends and friends
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and friends back and spend and friends and friends, um
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: from from it and ship all right, and we're back
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: our guests that we have here in studio at its fascio. Hey, Kat, Hello, Hello,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: what's up? Can you please introduce yourself? Um for our listeners,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: for our look on what is I am? My name's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Cat Dahlia. I'm a singer songwriter from Miami, and uh yeah,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: happy to be here, Happy to be here. Yes, I'm
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: so excited that you're going to be chatting with us today. UM.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Just amazing to have you in the in the studio,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and especially after I've read that you took some time off,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you had like a little to your hiatus, so it's
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: like really cool to see you creating music again and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: just out here in l A. Yeah, I took a
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: little time off after I left the major label situation.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I mean like some time and I just figure out
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to do next, like musically, sound wise.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: So I just took a break, lived life, and then
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the last year and a half, I've just been working
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: on the music. So hiatus in a way, but more
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: just in the cut. Yeah the trenches exactly exactly, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: people see it as a hiatus, but it's really you're
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: just like locked in love it and you you moved
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: out to l A recently. I moved out here four
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: years ago, okay, so that's been another Yeah, I've been
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: here for a minute. Yeah. I love the space though,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I love where you guys are at shopping after thank you.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: But I do love l A. I like it a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: lot um. I feel like there's a lot of things
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: similar to like Miami, that field reminiscence, and then it
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: has its whole other flavor to it, which I like.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Hate the traffic, but absolutely right, we all hate the traffic.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: That's the life out of me. And you're wearing your
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Florida necklace right now. Yeah, it's really cute Florida, Bobby. Hey,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: it's super super true day. Thank you and um. We
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: were talking before we started recording. We were talking about
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: your song that I think is your hit Gangster, right,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: that came out when in two thousand thirteen, I guess,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: so probably two thousands sixteen or yeah, yeah, maybe two
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: twelve around there, right, and just kind of reminiscing I
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: heard the first I heard of you in your music
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: was not out here in l A. But was in
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Massachusetts because I was going to school in Medford outside
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: of Boston, and that's where like I was introduced to
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that song. And I immediately was like, this is really different.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It's kind a spooky. I like your tone. I really
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: liked your tone and like your delivery and just kind
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: of the whole package was really really cool. So I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: appreciate that spooky that I never heard that before. But yeah,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I guess it was dark. I mean I was definitely
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: doing some dark ish um and yeah, I had like
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: that was like the beginnings of like the major label
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: stuff and like getting into it. But I love that record.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Still shout out to DJ pop Dog for always spending
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: my record out there. He really like supported me hard
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and like blew me up out there. So he's probably
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the reason why you even hurt me. Yeah, absolutely, And
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: what I really liked about that song too is there
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: was a lot of focus on like mother's and sacrificing.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: There was like some catholic imagery. Yeah, you know, I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: was very into it. Um. It was definitely some real,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: just like real talk, you know. I feel like at
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: that time, especially like what was popping was like Lady
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Gaga and Katy Perry and I don't know, definitely it
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: was like a different time in music for sure, and
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like I remember my headspace. It was very
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: much just like, man, I want to make what I like,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and I want to talk about what it feels like.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to hear from a song,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: like what what feels like it speaks to me? I'm
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: gonna just write to myself almost in a way. It
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: actually first started off as a joke, start off as
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: a parody. My older bodies to write parody songs, So
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I was writing a parody too obviously wank stuff, it's right,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And then as I was writing it, I was like, man,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: maybe this could be something actually like more serious and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: more person So as I was writing it, I kind
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: of started morphing it more into like something that became
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: it was almost I'm writing, like laughing my head off,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and then I'm like actually angry and crying or whatever.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Very cool. I love that because you're you're definitely walking
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: through the process of creating art. Right. It starts as
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: an idea and you think it's going to look a
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: certain way, and then a lot of times life of
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: its own something. A lot of times it starts off
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: as a fucking joke. Like the best some of the
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: best ideas come out of jokes. Like we'll just be
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: like throwing lyrics around and it'll be like, okay, so
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: my Janet, but they're like, damn, that's a fire melody. Okay,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: hold on, wait, let's put an actual leary to that.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And then you know, sometimes a lot of great things
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: come out of just jokey stuff, you know. I think
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that's especially when you're like, after years of writing and stuff,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it's kind of just fun to play around, you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: with art. I think it's meant to be played with.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: When did you um so, the transition from or the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: journey from gangs to time doing good and that creative process,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: what has that been? Like? Oh my god, I mean
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: so many ups and downs. I mean, She's cheese. That
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: was like what like sixty seven years ago that the
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: song came out, So, I mean that was in the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: major label system for a good amount of time. I
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: was there for five years and I learned a lot.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I was super green when I got in,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and you just learned the ins and outs of just
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the craziness that goes on, and you learn a lot
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: about yourself. Um. It's very like, UM, I don't know,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: like a lot of discovery happens when you're in that
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: kind of a situation. There's a lot of pressure. You
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: realize how quickly you can lose yourself, how hard it
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: is defined yourself, but how available it is, and who
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: you really are sometimes. UM, I think when I came out,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I was like just like relieved because I felt I
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: don't know, you just feel relief. You just feel like
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you can start just being yourself again without so many
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: voices in your head. You know. It's like imagine like
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: having and it's not even family, but imagine having like
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: a bunch of or what it felt like to me,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: probably because my own issues, but it felt like a
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of parents telling me what to do. And it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: like the little kid in me is like, Damn, I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: want to appease my parents. But I think that's my
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: own issues, probably because you know, I just have weird
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: parent issues. But don't we all. Ye, I can relate
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to me. So many times we meet people in our
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: lives and like they will unconsciously trigger us and it's like, oh, damn,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: there's my mom again, because I oh shit, I'm trying
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: to appease this person, because there's my mom again. Oh
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: there's my dad, this older dude than I'm attracted or whatever.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: It happens. It happens, It happen, happens, it happens for you.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: But once you start to become aware of your patterns
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: and if you can become like a more just aware
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like aware woman where human being and just
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: kind of a little by little as the years go on,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: more clear of what it is that I truly want. Yeah, yeah,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I wanted to git hard about that. The womanhood too.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I want to talk more about womanhood and making music
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and being the infantry. Yeah. And because I feel like, um,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: maybe when you were in it with the major label
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: that was not really the meat to movement had not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: necessarily hit right, So were you experienced like did you
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: see things here? Things like tell us about the landscape
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: pre me too. It's always it was always living breathing.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Of course in the in music for sure a big
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: time to living and breathing. And I think in so
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: many industries it's living and breathing, and I think unconsciously,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: like especially just being like a young girl, a young Latin,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a girl, a young like artist, a girl that happens
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to be have my certain you know, there's a history,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: there's always like a backstory. For me, it's almost like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of women we felt like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: it was normal and acceptable or we we just normalized it, right,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and we dum. We were just like, ah, you know,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: it is what it is when we throw our hands up.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: But it's so crazy that it took this entire movement
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and thankfully a lot of people speaking up for I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: think even a lot of us to just wake up
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh, yeah, that's actually super locked up, right,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Why are we accepting this and why are why do
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: we think it's okay as much as the guys do. Yeah,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I think exactly what you said about it being normal,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Like the predatory behavior is so normalized that we don't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: even see it as being predatorial. It's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: he's you know, just doing that because that's what men
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: do exactly. I mean, it really is crazy. I mean,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: like I think, yeah, for the history of women and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: just the things that we've gone through over the centuries,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I think it is part of it's like in our
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: DNA to just kind of be suppressed and oppressed unfortunately
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: sexually and just in so many aspects. And I mean,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: of course, like in the last couple hundred years, just
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: trying to come up in industries as women and trying
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to be these power players and trying to be bosses.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: It's like a whole new level of it's a whole
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: other playing field that we're dealing with. But thankfully, like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I said, there is a metube movement and people are
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: speaking up and and we keep having the conversations because
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: we don't want to forget again. Absolutely yeah. But yeah, music,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course music inde is full of freaking.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: But I will say, dude, since since like the movement,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: so many dudes and it's really annoying, but so many
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: dudes like but at the end of the day, I'm
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: grateful that they say that they'll be like, oh yeah,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: because you know, I don't want to be me too,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So you know I'm gonna and I'm like, you know,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I hate that they minimize it because I don't want
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: to be me too. So let me just chill on
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: what I say. You know, it's like they minimize it.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: But you know, like you know what, actually, yes, go
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: check yourself. I don't know what you were, would say,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah, I want them to be afraid. Afraid
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: that like the men that now they say like, oh,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: like I can't even put my arm around someone in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: and maybe I didn't want you to put you over
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: around me. Don't put your little hand on my hand
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: back right, your creepy little hand on your photos and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I get official touching their backs. Yeah, and I'm like
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: an official in l A did that to us. I'm
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: come from in front of a lot of people in
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: a picture for a period of time. It's crazy, But
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I will say that, I mean I have definitely I've been,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: you know, like someone that has played the game, because
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: again that's the playing field. You know, at the end
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: of the day, you need to at the time, even
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: before the meto thing. Yeah, you need to like play
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the game. In other words, you need to flare. You
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: need to act like you might smash, but you're not
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: really going to, you have no intentions of. But you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: have to act like he has a chance, he might
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: have a chance, because if not, they won't They're not
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: going to check for you, and it's messed up. It
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: really is messed up. Some of these dudes that are
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: big power players, they won't check for you unless you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: just like stroke their ego and so crazy. But again,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: like it takes the movies, it takes these conversations to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: be able to be like wow, yeah, why did I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: feel like I had to do that? Yeah? What? Well?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Also because a lot of the gatekeepers are men with
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: hard on I'm being so money it's important, it's about it,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: bring it, bring it, of it, and they have the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: money and they control everything career, they control everything. Yeah. Well,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I think now hear in your hearing
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: all of your thoughts now, Like I can definitely feel
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the energy behind I'm doing good and just like, don't
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: come and try to funk up my ship when I've
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: been working so hard on this, but I'm doing good.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Your nails look so I noticed them earlier too, and like,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I come in sob but my birthdays in a week,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: so I'm waiting. Yes, yes, I'm like waiting a few
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: more days, and I don't want to get them. You
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: got to be strategic about the time timing and the calendar.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want too much grow it on my birthdays.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: What Okay, I'm interested to know difference in male culture
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: and such in Miami versus l A because we leave
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: l A and people see our nails and they go, oh,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: you're so l A. But what's the nail situation in mind?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I feel like it's relatively
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: some actually no, yeah, maybe not. Y'all are definitely have
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: more color and there's like a little more loudness maybe
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and just like brightness. But I feel like Miami's that
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: way too, but not really. Miami is a little more
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: toned down. Like girls like to do the neutrals and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: they like I don't know, it's just but I don't know.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: There's girls that that do like the louder and more
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: colorful nails too, But I will say I like both.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Some some days I'm feeling like a super natural color
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: like I'll do like a hell of longer crylic, but
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I'll do it like literally a nail color, or sometimes
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I'll do like bright ret I just I do every
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: depends on the mood. Depends on the mood. I feel
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah, But I will say I guess
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Cuban culture, like Miami culture, girls are a little more
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say safe, but a little more safe.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be conservative, maybe concerned. I don't know
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: the right word. I think I think our proximity to Hollywood,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: like l A is l A and like there's some
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: weird ship here, but then it trickles down into like
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: our cool. Yeah. I think that we really are one
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: of those like fashion locales. Yeah, I agree. People people
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: take risks with their people take big time, more so
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: than in Miami. I will say, like when I go out,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I love Miami and I love my city and that's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: where I'm going to go and probably retire. But definitely
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the fashion is very subparts not to cutting edge down
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: there you go to like, I don't know, it's just
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: not like here interesting. You have so much more cool
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: stuff to look at here. I love this, This is
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: really great. Look at this cultural exchange. Yeah, Like even
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the store store is like raw, I will say, in Miami,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: like it's finally it's getting to a point, like with
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the Windwood areas and like downtown, like things are becoming
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: cooler in the art scene is growing. But it's almost
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: like we're like a baby version, like a baby Miami
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: tropical like Latin version of l A and somewhat growing.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah we are. We're also really into like wearing
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: our culture here and like there's a lot of just
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: like local artists who have brands and create the graphic
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: t s and the clothes and the products so you
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: can like whear where you're lefting me that. It's like,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, We're very flamboyant in that way. And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's also just about looks. Like it's about looks.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: It's it's depending on the circles you run in. But
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: it's I feel like it's less allowed about brands and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: it's more just about dope things and dope combinations, cool pieces,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: putting the style you know for pieces. Yeah, Miami is
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit still on that like brand shit. It's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: just like labels, labels. Where do you like to shop?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Good question? I mean I do I live like in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: like I said, like, I live like in Hollywood area,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: so I always go to Melrose for the most part,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: and I just hit up all those random little stores
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I find like weird ship that I like. But then
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: also when I'm looking for quick stuff Urban, I'm going
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: to Urban. You're gonna get all your basics there. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I find my basics. Oh my. So what's next? What's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: next for Cat Dahlia? What's next for me? I have
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: a new single coming out actually August ninth, um, and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot the video for it, or we already
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: shot the video for you. I've actually been editing it
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks and so that's going
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: to come out August ninth. And then I have like
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of festivals coming up. I'm doing Austin City Limits,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I'm doing those cells in the Midwest. So if y'all are,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, happen to be there, come check me
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: out there and yeah, and where can folks fall allow
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: you and keep up with you can follow me at
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Cat Dahlia on my Instagram same as Twitter, on my
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: YouTube page. Definitely subscribe and uh yeah, come check me
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: on Melrose Shopping absolutely shopping trip. All right, well, thank
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: you so much for being here with us. Thank you.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I really love catching up with you. Um, it's really
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: exciting to see you making music and I love what
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you're putting out. Thank you. I'm excited for your next single.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for you guys. I love these spots cool.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you, bro, and as always, remember to follow us
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. At Look, I thought I underscore radio. Visit
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: our website. Look, I thought a radio dot com hit
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the Venmo. Look I thought a dash radio. Um, yeah, alright,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: so we will catch you next time. Look at what
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: is