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- 0:00Welcome to a special bonus episode of Buckeyes tomorrow morning. There is some transfer
- 0:05portal news, and this time it involves a tight end. Joe Royer of
- 0:09the Buckeyes entered the transfer portal on Thursday night. I'm joined by Tony Gerderman
- 0:14of bucke Huddle dot com to take a look at what it means, how
- 0:18it all, what it could mean for the twenty twenty four buck Eyes and
- 0:21beyond, and Tony, I guess let's just start with Joe Royer's career at
- 0:25Ohio State. It just it felt like between injuries and you know, the
- 0:31tragic passing of his mom last year, it just felt like there was just
- 0:34a bunch of stuff working against him where he just he could never really get
- 0:39on the field and stay on the field, and you know it might just
- 0:44at this point be get a fresh start and you know go from there.
- 0:49Yeah, a guy who in his three years caught four passes for the buck
- 0:54Eyes for twenty four yards and it was on the verge a couple of times
- 0:58of maybe becoming that Mber two tight end, but it just never happened.
- 1:02And then Ohio had their tight ends this year with Chief Scott and Kate Stover
- 1:07and really didn't deviate too much from that. And so now he's going to
- 1:14head to the Portal look for a new home, a more a better landing
- 1:19spot for him in terms of what he's going to do in the offense,
- 1:22a busier offensive player hopefully down the road for him. And so another one
- 1:26for the buck guys where somebody else looking for opportunity. And really that's the
- 1:33gist of all of this is you want to go somewhere where you can get
- 1:37the ball. You want to go somewhere where you can be on the field
- 1:38to make tackles, like whatever your position is. As Marvin Harrison told us
- 1:44on Thursday, you got to go find a place. Everybody's looking for a
- 1:48place where they can make their mark and get time on the field. After
- 1:53all, that's why they all come to play college football, is to actually
- 1:56play. And so Joe roy will go look for that opportunity. And Royer
- 2:00did, like like you said, he really did feel like he was right
- 2:04on the cusp of taking that step and getting that opportunity to Ohio State a
- 2:08few times during the Peach Bowl last year, after Cad Stover went down with
- 2:12a game ending injury, Joe Royer was playing in there. You saw Joe
- 2:15Royer getting like, you know, the most meaningful of meaningful snaps in that
- 2:20game, and you know, so you sort of assume, okay, well,
- 2:23certainly next year he no just and you know, injury missed a bunch
- 2:28of time. This year again, it just it just seemed like it just
- 2:30was not working out for him for whatever reason. So now he is off
- 2:35to the portal and that leaves Ohio State with a really interesting tight end room
- 2:39for next year because you know, we can run through the guys who could
- 2:43theoretically come back. Kate Stover theoretically has another year. We looked him up,
- 2:50you know, and in terms of like mock draft projections, and you
- 2:53can find him anywhere from like a third round or to a fifth round or
- 2:55something like that. So you're kind of right in that at theoretically you could
- 3:00come back and you know, do a year of nil and then go to
- 3:05the draft a year from now. I don't know that he's someone who materially
- 3:07changes his draft stock in a year, but you could have some of the
- 3:12same motivations that Marvin Harrison talked about, I guess in terms of coming back
- 3:15and giving it one more run at Michigan and you know, a Big ten
- 3:20championship and beyond. Yeah, and that's something that I wonder how much more
- 3:23we will hear. But also, Kate Stover is not your typical college athlete
- 3:29like looking for a bag. I think he's looking for basically stuff for the
- 3:34farm. You know, if the best way to keep him would maybe you
- 3:37know, lend him some equipment for the for the semester or something like that
- 3:40and for the family farm, and you know, not too big of equipment.
- 3:46That was a complaint last year or the year before where some of the
- 3:50stuff that he was given to use it was too big for the farm.
- 3:53So maybe the right sized equipment might be something that keeps him in the fold.
- 3:59But he's he is technically he technically has a win over Michigan, but
- 4:03he was a true freshman and did not see the field in that game.
- 4:08And being a two time captain, now you'd think you'd want like, yeah,
- 4:13sure you've got a pair of gold pants, but you know, what
- 4:15did you do in that game to earn those gold pants. I'm sure he
- 4:19would like to have something that he can put around his neck that he is
- 4:24responsible for. But that as we see, from the time of that game
- 4:30until whenever they make their decision, the pain either lessons or it grows in
- 4:36terms of what you're really truly focused on, what you're truly thinking about.
- 4:41And I know it's hard for guys to let that go, but also you
- 4:46have to because at some point you have to move on. And now do
- 4:48you just pull the band aid off and move on or do you keep it
- 4:51on there and let it faster and come back next year to try and really
- 4:57get fully healed. Well, we'll see what Caate Stover decides to do with
- 5:01that band aid. We'll find that out probably in the coming weeks. But
- 5:05if he does decide to go, and now Joe Royer is gone, ge
- 5:09Scott would be the top returning tight end. And you know, he seemed
- 5:14like he sort of established a nice role for himself and they used him a
- 5:16bunch of that twelve personnel package this year, so that feels like, okay,
- 5:19there's one tight end for you. I know they're very, very high
- 5:23on Jelannie Thurman, the true freshman who did not get to play a ton
- 5:27but you saw when he came in in the closing minutes of for example,
- 5:30the Michigan State game. I think he had two receptions out of three completed
- 5:34passes or three attempted passes in the closing minutes there. That's sort of what
- 5:39we have seen out of him in the little bits of practice that we've gotten
- 5:42to watch this this year, especially even going back to the spring. He
- 5:46feels like he might be, you know, the next possible solution there at
- 5:50tight end behind g Scott. Yeah, and he seems to be like the
- 5:57most typical of the tight ends Ohio States. Broster obviously very athletic, good
- 6:02size six five, two fifty or whatever he is, and who knows what
- 6:05he'll be next year at this time, but he is your prototypical tight end.
- 6:11But he's still just finishing up his freshman season, and tight end at
- 6:14Ohio State has always been a developmental position. Rarely do freshmen come in and
- 6:19make an impact. Rarely do second year guys even come in and really make
- 6:24an impact. So this is a situation where they would need him to be
- 6:28one of those rarities, and we know that he is, but how rare
- 6:30can he be? He lost his blacks ripe pretty quickly. He has impressed
- 6:34people all throughout when we get to see him in practice back in the spring
- 6:40and then maybe even in the fall, using him as a red zone guy,
- 6:43just looking for him in those situations. He is a unique weapon.
- 6:47But is he ready? The reps are going to be there to get him
- 6:50ready. So this Bowl prep is going to help him, The spring is
- 6:57going to help him. You're going to have you know, thirty out of
- 6:59practices whatever to really propel yourself into a twelve personnel role in twenty twenty four.
- 7:11And then behind them you got a couple kind of mystery boxes. Almost
- 7:15Bennett Christian sat out the twenty twenty three season after testing positive for a banned
- 7:18substance. Sam Hart has really never seen the field in any meaningful way.
- 7:25Zach Herb Street, the walk on son of course of Ohio State, former
- 7:29Ohio State quarterback and current TV broadcaster kirkurb Street. He missed the season with
- 7:34a heart ailment, So it has just been a you know, beyond those
- 7:39guys, and then you know, you have a couple tight ends coming in
- 7:42this year, but as you said, that usually takes a year or two
- 7:44to bring someone up to speed in that tight end room, so you're not
- 7:47probably expecting them to be you know a part of the twenty twenty four picture.
- 7:53If you don't get CAD's doverback, you're really looking at g Scott,
- 8:00maybe Jilani Thurman, maybe been at Christian Sam Hart. We don't really,
- 8:05you know, I don't. We don't know what they have there with either
- 8:07of those guys at this point. And you know, you haven't really seen
- 8:11any indication that those guys are close to the field at least at least Heart
- 8:15and you know, Christian, who knows what you got there? Do they
- 8:20have to look at the portal at this point? Is that something? Is
- 8:22that? Is this a position where if you don't get Kid's do overback,
- 8:26you got to look at the portal? And if that's the case, does
- 8:30that just make it really important that they get Kid's overback? Well? I
- 8:35at this point now you would think their number one priority would be to keep
- 8:39cagsed over When you look at what's behind them, like there's it's a decent
- 8:45sized room in terms of numbers. You know you've got you've got some bodies
- 8:48there. But outside of g Scott, you have two career catches that'll be
- 8:54on the roster next year, and both of those belong to Jilanni Thurman.
- 8:56I think g Scott has about nineteen career catches. So even with them,
- 9:00it's not like there's a ton of experience and a ton of production certainly,
- 9:05And so I think you go into next year if there is no cased over,
- 9:09you're feeling pretty good about Giscott and Jilanni Thurman in terms of those are
- 9:13the guys that you'll you can roll with. But also what else is there?
- 9:20And I'm thinking, yeah, they go to the portal. They've tried
- 9:22to go to the portal for what's the last two or three years now at
- 9:26tight End and it hasn't worked out. Now maybe there's more motivation to do
- 9:31so if they don't keep katesed over. And so yeah, before the show
- 9:37we looked through the through the transfer portal at tight End. It's not a
- 9:39it's done a very deep It's not a robust list right now, not a
- 9:43lot of big names or familiar names. There are some familiar names though,
- 9:48but yeah, I mean they're looking at every position. I think now you
- 9:52have to look even harder unless unless, of course, Tom the Joe Royer
- 9:56departure is a sign of cad Stover's decision that could be as well. And
- 10:03that's an interesting, interesting set of tea leaves to read as you're talking about
- 10:09the fact that they had looked for tight ends in the portal, I just
- 10:11went back and looked at Austin Stagner because they did not take they did not
- 10:16take Tate Martell's advice. They swung and miss twice at Austin Stagner. He
- 10:18went from Oklahoma to South Carolina to Oklahoma. If I have done the scholarship
- 10:22math or the eligibility math correctly, he is out of eligibility, so no
- 10:26longer no longer an option. So yeah, I the idea that it could
- 10:33be related to Cad Stover's decision is an interesting one, and we'll find that
- 10:37out. Because Tommy Eichenberg, who is in the same situation as Cad Stover
- 10:41in terms of years of eligibility and could theoretically come back for one more year,
- 10:46he is in a fellow captain as well, close friend as well.
- 10:50You know, he has already announced that he's going to the Senior Bowl,
- 10:54which you know, you could theoretically take that back and decide to return for
- 10:56one more year, but you know, Kate Stover has not made that announcement
- 11:00yet, so that is an interesting sort of an interesting question. We'll keep
- 11:03an eye on that one. And that you know, the solution to Ohio
- 11:07States, you know, potential shortage at tight end next year, could already
- 11:11be within the program. That would be you know, the call coming from
- 11:15within the house, but in potentially a good way in this case. So
- 11:18we'll keep an eye on that as well as a bunch of other stuff.
- 11:20I'm guessing this will not be the last Transfer Portal show that we do in
- 11:24the short to medium term. Lots of news potentially in terms of Buckeyes who
- 11:28may be headed into the portal to leave. Lots of news in terms of
- 11:31Buckeyes who you know, potential future Buckeyes who maybe had you know, already
- 11:35in the portal and headed to Columbus at some point in the future. We'll
- 11:37be here to talk about all of them. And we'll be there as well
- 11:41at buckeyehuddle dot com to talk about all of them. Lots of stuff to
- 11:43talk about right now between the Transfer Portal, the last the closing what twelve
- 11:48days of the early signing period right now, as we count down to early
- 11:52Signing Day on the twentieth and Oh yes, Ohio State playing in the Cotton
- 11:56Bowl against Missouri. All of that stuff, much more to talk about at
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- 12:16a normal episode a little later on today. We'll talk to you then