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S6 E24 Buried Alive The Michelina Lewandowski Case Part 2 · True Crime and Wine Time

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Speaker 1: Welcome to True Crime and Wine Time. I'm Terry and
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Speaker 1: So let's take a sip and dive in.
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Speaker 2: Hi. Hello, Happy Thursday evening.
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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday.
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Speaker 2: What a week, I know, right, A lot a week,
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Speaker 2: What a big big a week of a lot of
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Speaker 2: big things. My little mom and lots of people, lots
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Speaker 2: of people. My little mama was done with middle site.
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Speaker 2: Today It's gonna be high school. Did Mama cry a
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Speaker 2: little bit? Me and Elbowfeet didn't cry near as much
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Speaker 2: as we thought we would. But so, uh, when they
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Speaker 2: were bringing the eighth graders like into the auditorium, they
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Speaker 2: were like, so you're gonna hear a lot of clapping
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Speaker 2: because it's it's a third through eighth grade school that
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Speaker 2: and the teachers like clap the eighth graders the whole
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Speaker 2: way down three floors to the auditorium. And me and
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Speaker 2: Albow Feter are just like, oh that is happening already, amazing.
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Speaker 2: It's sweet, but no, it was quite lovely.
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Speaker 1: I would just have to say, when that comes time
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Speaker 1: the car. I mean, because you know she lived with this,
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Speaker 1: We took her to her first day of kindergarten, so I,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh I can't imagine, Mama Lama.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: Well, but we're finding on I think it's Prime video
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Speaker 1: in the middle of a scene. So it's the same thing, like,
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Speaker 1: can y'all not do better?
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Speaker 2: I know, it's so annoying. I don't even get me
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Speaker 1: Tell us, mama, what we are covering tonight?
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Speaker 2: Well, tonight we are getting into part two of Buried Alive,
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Speaker 2: the case of Michelinawan Dauska. Sorry, I doing my best,
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Speaker 2: and this is part two of this story who she
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Speaker 2: was buried alive by her fiance slash Pardners slash baby Daddy.
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Speaker 2: And we have reached Yeah, we've caught him an aushole.
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Speaker 2: He is an asshole. Let's be honest here. He's not great.
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Speaker 2: He is not great. And so that is a story
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Speaker 2: we'll be finishing up tonight and already off the gate.
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Speaker 2: I just want to say, she is so to be
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Speaker 2: able to do what she's about to do. That we're
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Speaker 2: about to tell you is just so unbelievable. I'm believed
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Speaker 2: it is. I don't think I could do it at all.
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Speaker 1: So, but when it kicks in, when it's you never
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Speaker 1: know what happens when you're putting that situation.
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Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Well, what are we drinking today
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Speaker 2: before we get into the story. Let's tell you real
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Speaker 2: quick what we're drinking tonight, because we both had a
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Speaker 2: crazy week that we got wine deliveries.
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Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg. I am doing Nineteen Crimes Kelly Rose, because
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Speaker 1: I need a little Snoop Dogg action and because of
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Speaker 1: twelve percent, I'll hold by volume, which I needed because
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Speaker 1: it's been awake.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a week. Well, tonight, I'm drinking Nobilo,
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Speaker 2: which apparently is one of your favorite wines. I've never
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Speaker 2: had it, and it is delicious. It's from New Zealand.
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Speaker 1: It is from New Zealand. It's a key week.
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Speaker 2: It's a Savagnon blanc and it is quite delicious. With
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Speaker 2: three hundred years of family wine making tradition, which is
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Speaker 2: wild when I read that each bottle of Nobelo is
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Speaker 2: a promise of New Zealand wine making its finest our
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Speaker 2: savignon blanc has distinct notes of fresh melon and citrus,
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Speaker 2: a perfect match for your favorite salad, seafood, and poultry
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Speaker 2: dishes with twelve point five percent volume of alcohol and
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Speaker 2: it's it is delicious. They're not wrong about the citrus,
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Speaker 2: but it's not too much. It's just enough.
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Speaker 1: It's just right. But I have to be careful with
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Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, I'll have a glass and
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Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh shit, I have the whole bottle
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Speaker 1: because it's just good. It's flavorful light. Okay, lady, you
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Speaker 1: crack me up. Yes, to go through the checkpoint. And
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Speaker 1: it's not because I'm bringing anything bad. I just need
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Speaker 1: to know if I need to wrap it. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: what I'm inant. And yes, we will try to meet
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Speaker 1: up before this show if you have time, because you're
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Speaker 1: the star. I mean, I'm just a person that's there.
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Speaker 1: So before we get into tonight's episode in Michelina's Impossible Escape,
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Speaker 1: let's look back at how we got into the woods
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Speaker 1: to just refresh everybody's nightmare. Yes, we met Michelina Luendoska,
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Speaker 1: a young mother who moved to Poland to Hudders From
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Speaker 1: Poland to Huddersbuilt, England, chasing a future with Marson Casper Zach,
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Speaker 1: but that dream quickly soured.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Marston became consumed by a dark transformation fueled by
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Speaker 2: bodybuilding ego and a very dangerous cycle of steroid use.
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Speaker 2: So as his muscles grew, his humanity seemed to shrink.
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Speaker 2: He began a campaign of emotional and verbal abuse, tearing
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Speaker 2: Michelina down and treating her like an obstacle in his
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Speaker 2: own home.
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Speaker 1: And just because I'm petty, I hope this manhood drunk too.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, everything came to a head on May twenty eighth.
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Speaker 1: What is today's date?
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Speaker 2: May twenty eighth? Today?
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Speaker 1: What this was?
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Speaker 2: Realist?
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Speaker 1: In twenty eleven? Holy shit, Bosters, so.
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Speaker 2: Wow sorry frcos.
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Speaker 1: On May twenty, twenty eleven, Marson lured Michelina into a
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Speaker 1: trap with the one thing she wanted most hope. He
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Speaker 1: promised a fresh start and a shopping trip, but instead
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Speaker 1: he met her with the three hundred thousand volt stun gun.
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Speaker 1: Along with the seventeen year old accomplice Patrick Woars, Marson
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Speaker 1: bound Mischelina with tape, shoved her into a cardboard box,
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Speaker 1: and drove her to a secluded wooded area.
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Speaker 2: And there, while she was still conscious and breathing, they
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Speaker 2: dug a hole. And they didn't just dump her, No,
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Speaker 2: they placed her in the box, head first, and then
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Speaker 2: shoveled the earth over her until the world went silent.
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Speaker 2: And then Marson and Patrick drove away to withdraw her
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Speaker 2: money from the bank and play video games, because, of
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Speaker 2: course they did, leaving Mischelina in a lit thing tomb.
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Speaker 2: But they underestimated one thing, and that is the sheer
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Speaker 2: will of a mother who refused to stay buried. So
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Speaker 2: let's get into where we lived.
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Speaker 1: Off yet, and people need to realize, you don't jack
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Speaker 1: with Mama cub, you know, Mama Lion when it comes
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Speaker 1: to her cubs or Mama Bear, you don't. Okay, Now,
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Speaker 1: Michelina decided she was not going to die in that box,
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Speaker 1: not like this, not discarded like trash and forgotten by
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Speaker 1: the world, and most importantly, she was not leaving her
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Speaker 1: son behind to be raised by a monster.
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Speaker 2: Michelina forced her fingers towards the small handle holds in
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Speaker 2: the cardboard, pushing until she felt the dirt. There was
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Speaker 2: no denying the geography of her nightmare anymore. She closed
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Speaker 2: her eyes and prayed a silent, desperate plea into the dark,
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Speaker 2: and then she waited.
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Speaker 1: Oh, pulled that box back up? Oh yes, that I
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Speaker 1: mean I'm getting emotional look at that box. Imagine I
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Speaker 1: mean being locked in a box and all of that,
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Speaker 1: but then to be buried underground.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're listening on a podcast and you come
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Speaker 2: over to our YouTube channel, see friend in my time,
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Speaker 2: we have visualists for our YouTube audience while we're recording this,
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Speaker 2: So it's it's wild the size of that box. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's bigger than I don't know what I thought it
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Speaker 2: would Peter have fit a person in there, but it wow. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's so much tape on it too, I know.
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Speaker 1: And that's that is my nightmare. Echoes, we don't need
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Speaker 1: double the Lama. Okay, you can see your place some
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Speaker 1: one day, but we do not need two of her. Okay, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I love her, but to no. Now, she listened for
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Speaker 1: any vibration of footsteps, any lingering voices. When nothing but
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Speaker 1: the heavy, oppressive silence of the forest floor pressed back
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Speaker 1: against her, she realized the truth. If she was going
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Speaker 1: to get out, it was all up to her. She
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Speaker 1: was the only one who could do it. She was
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Speaker 1: the only one who could save herself.
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Speaker 2: Now her hands and feet were still bound, and the
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Speaker 2: tape across her mouth that made every breath a struggle.
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Speaker 2: Every movement of hers was restricted, and every attempt to
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Speaker 2: shift her weight was an exhausting battle against physics. She
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Speaker 2: tried to kick to larch to find some leverage within
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Speaker 2: the cramped walls of the box, but nothing worked.
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Speaker 1: The panic began to rise again in her, but she
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Speaker 1: anchored herself to the thought of her son once more.
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Speaker 1: That that love gave her the clarity to remember one thing.
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Speaker 1: Her engagement ring, the very ring she had worn as
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Speaker 1: a symbol of a future she believed in, was still
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Speaker 1: on her finger. With trembling, careful movements, she was able
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Speaker 1: to work it loose. She then used it for a
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Speaker 1: purpose was never intended for. It was now a jacket,
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Speaker 1: desperate survival tool, and I am here for it.
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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I mean, that's just good to know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully we're never in that. Suh. Gosh, yeah, her.
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Speaker 1: Wow, her ring looks a lot like mine.
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Speaker 2: Oh. Interesting. So slowly and painfully she began sawing through
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Speaker 2: the tape around her legs, and it was agonizingly slow work,
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Speaker 2: but eventually the tape did give away. She moved to
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Speaker 2: her hands, freeing them next, and finally ripped the tape
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Speaker 2: from her mouth. She pulled in a lung full of
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Speaker 2: stale cardboard scented air, fighting to stay focused, but freeing
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Speaker 2: her limbs was only the first step. She was still
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Speaker 2: in a box inside of the earth. Which, yeah, this
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Speaker 2: next part I don't even understand. I don't understand how
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Speaker 2: it happens, but it's wow.
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Speaker 1: Using the ring, she began cutting at the handle holes,
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Speaker 1: widening them, tearing at the wet cardboard to create space.
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Speaker 1: As the opening grew, the dirt began to spill in.
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Speaker 1: It started as a trickle and then became a heavy pore,
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Speaker 1: threatening to fill the box and bury her all over
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Speaker 1: again from the inside out.
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Speaker 2: But instead of stopping her, the falling dirt became her ladder.
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Speaker 2: She abandoned precision for raw urgency, Using her bare hands
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Speaker 2: to rip at the weak and cardboard. The box began
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Speaker 2: to disintegrate under her sheer will. She tore the whole
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Speaker 2: wider and wider, until finally she was able to force
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Speaker 2: her head through the opening. And you know, she doesn't
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Speaker 2: know which ways up or down.
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Speaker 1: And she doesn't know anything.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe, But also I think at
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Speaker 2: the same time that i'd be very disorienting even when
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Speaker 2: your placed head first, So maybe I guess you might
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Speaker 2: feel the blood rushing there. Yeah, even then, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Because the dirt had ziled the bottom of the box,
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Speaker 1: it had lifted her body upward. When she pushed through
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Speaker 1: the top of the box, her head broke above the
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Speaker 1: level of the grave. She had reached the surface.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god. And she sucked in the cool night
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Speaker 2: air and immediately began to scream. And her voice cut
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Speaker 2: into the stillness of the woods, and it was raw.
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Speaker 2: It was desperate, and it was pleading for anyone to
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Speaker 2: hear her. But no one came. The forests had swallowed
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Speaker 2: her cries, and in the distance she could hear the faint,
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Speaker 2: haunting sound of music, the sound of a world that
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Speaker 2: had no idea. She was fighting for her life, but
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Speaker 2: around her there were only endless, silent trees.
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Speaker 1: But Mischelina didn't stop. She couldn't afford to. She kept
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Speaker 1: hearing at the remains of the box, kicking at the dirt,
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Speaker 1: caving in around her legs, forcing her body upward through
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Speaker 1: the narrow opening. Every movement cost her energy she really
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Speaker 1: didn't have, but she knew that stopping meant dying. Peace
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Speaker 1: by peace, she freed her torso than her arms.
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Speaker 2: And she dug her fingers into the loose soil at
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Speaker 2: the surface. Using every ounce of primal strength left in her,
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Speaker 2: she pulled and dragged and crawled her way out of
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Speaker 2: the ground that had tried to claim her. And suddenly
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Speaker 2: she was standing.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? Feeling?
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Speaker 2: All just oh?
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Speaker 1: She stood there, shivering and covered in earth, looking down
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Speaker 1: at the very hole where she had been left to suffocate.
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Speaker 1: For a moment, the world slowed down. The collision of
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Speaker 1: shock and disbelief and adrenaline were overwhelming. Mischelina had just
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Speaker 1: done the impossible.
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Speaker 2: But the terror wasn't over. She was disoriented, not knowing
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Speaker 2: how long she'd been under the dirt where she was,
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Speaker 2: or most importantly, how close Marsin and Patrick might be.
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Speaker 2: She paused, straining to listen to the dark woods, making
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Speaker 2: sure she was truly alone. There were no voices and
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Speaker 2: no footsteps, and no sign of Marson or Patrick. The
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Speaker 2: silence was her signal, and that is when she turned
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Speaker 2: and ran.
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Speaker 1: She tore through the trees, pushing through the darkness with
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Speaker 1: the last of her reserves until the dense forest finally broke.
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Speaker 1: She stumbled out onto a road just as a pair
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Speaker 1: of headlights cut through the darkness. She didn't hide, nor
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Speaker 1: did she hesitate. She stepped directly into their path and
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Speaker 1: flagged down the driver Dan rockily.
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Speaker 2: Now that was the moment that saved her, because Dan, somehow,
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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, if I was Dan in this scenario
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Speaker 2: and a woman covered in dirts like at nights, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what I would have done,
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Speaker 2: very wild to see, but thank goodness, he did what
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Speaker 2: he did, so Dan didn't second guess the terrified, dirt
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Speaker 2: streaked woman standing in the middle of the road, And
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Speaker 2: once she was in the car, Dan immediately called the police,
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Speaker 2: and as they sped towards the station, the night blurring past,
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Speaker 2: the reality of what had happened began to spill out
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Speaker 2: in jagged fragments. I mean, how do you tell people
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Speaker 2: this truly unbelievable story.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, and this driver doesn't know you, and
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Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, I could have hit her.
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Speaker 1: This woman's I mean, what if it's a setup? What
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Speaker 1: if she's wanting to get in your car because she
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Speaker 1: has a partner. I mean, there had to be a
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Speaker 1: lot going through his mind.
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Speaker 2: Well even her. I mean I could imagine like how
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Speaker 2: her brain must be like rap, she just saved her life.
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Speaker 1: She is this arrivor mode way over. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Once inside the safety of the station, Michelina laid it
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Speaker 1: all out. She told them about the apology text that
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Speaker 1: felt like a beginning, the hopeful afternoon spent getting ready
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Speaker 1: for a date that was actually a death sentence. And guys,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that to me is even
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Speaker 1: more cruel. Getting her to get all dulled up, all
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Speaker 1: this hope to do that, that's just another it's disturbing.
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Speaker 1: And then three hundred thousand volts that turned her world
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Speaker 1: to black. She described the box, the sounds of the shovel,
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Speaker 1: and the suffocating weight of the earth.
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Speaker 2: Well, it was a story that sounded statistically impossible, except
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Speaker 2: that she was sitting right there, breathing living proof that
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Speaker 2: it was all true. She was surrounded by officers, safe
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Speaker 2: at last, but the relief was instantly swallowed by a new,
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Speaker 2: even more urgent kind of panic. The fear was no
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Speaker 2: longer about her own life. It was about the life
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Speaker 2: she had left behind.
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Speaker 1: She begged the detectives to go to the house to
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Speaker 1: get her son, to pull him away from the man
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Speaker 1: she now knew was a monster. Her panic was frantic
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Speaker 1: and visceral. She knew what Marson was capable of, and
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Speaker 1: the thought of her child alone with him was more
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Speaker 1: than she could bear.
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Speaker 2: Same m but the wheels of justice turned with a cold,
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Speaker 2: methodical pace. The police couldn't just storm the house on
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Speaker 2: a word. They had to secure the facts first. They
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Speaker 2: had to build a case that was undeniable and iron clad.
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Speaker 2: They had to document the evidence of her survival before
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Speaker 2: they could move in on the men who tried to
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Speaker 2: take it from her.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say, I personally think, if a woman
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Speaker 1: comes and tells you that story and she is covered
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Speaker 1: in dirt, I think if you find where she was buried,
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Speaker 1: that's all the evidence you me just go get the kid.
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Speaker 1: You can figure out the shit later, my opinion, figure
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Speaker 1: the shit out later. Detective Griffin moved with a sense
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Speaker 1: of urgency that did match Michelina's terror, dispatching officers to
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Speaker 1: locate the site she had described see. They found it
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Speaker 1: exactly where she said it would be hidden in the
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Speaker 1: shadows of the woods near the golf club.
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Speaker 2: Now the scene was a chilling testament to what she
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Speaker 2: had just endured. There was the freshly disturbed, earthy, ragged
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Speaker 2: remains of the cardboard box, still partially submerged, and that
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Speaker 2: very heavy tree limb dragged over the top in a crude,
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Speaker 2: quite frankly desperate attempt to hide the crime. And it's
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Speaker 2: a big log. Okay, it's pretty bad.
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Speaker 1: She got lucky that they were stupid.
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Speaker 2: Yes, true, she did. Officers meticulously documented the scene, making
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Speaker 2: sure to capture every angle of the hole that was
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Speaker 2: meant to be a final resting place.
23:31
Speaker 1: Standing there, looking at the shallow pit, one thing became
23:36
Speaker 1: hauntingly clear. Michelina had survived by pure, unadulterated will. Martin
23:45
Speaker 1: and Patrick had been arrogant and thankfully sloppy. They hadn't
23:51
Speaker 1: dug the hole deep enough, and their work was rushed
23:54
Speaker 1: their men. The grave was only one hundred feet from
23:59
Speaker 1: the far less secluded than they had imagined. Their incompetence,
24:06
Speaker 1: paired with Michelina's refusal to die, had written the ending
24:11
Speaker 1: of the story. And she's freaking amazing.
24:15
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that they're idiots. I am. I mean
24:21
Speaker 2: they I don't know the fact that you think you
24:24
Speaker 2: can take somebody's life like that and be so like
24:29
Speaker 2: the amount of arrogance and make her.
24:32
Speaker 1: Get dressed up. You do this, and then you go
24:35
Speaker 1: play video games.
24:36
Speaker 2: You play video games.
24:37
Speaker 1: They did not give about what they did.
24:41
Speaker 2: No, and quite frankly, this is a lot of suffering
24:45
Speaker 2: that she would have done before she had Like, this
24:48
Speaker 2: is very cruel, just like.
24:51
Speaker 1: The stunt gun. And then they tied her up, and
24:54
Speaker 1: then they kept doing things and left her there for
24:55
Speaker 1: a couple hours, then brought her something to drink. They
24:59
Speaker 1: toyed with her and tortured her.
25:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very disturbing. It's unbelievable that you that anybody
25:07
Speaker 2: can do that to another person. Yeah, let alone somebody
25:10
Speaker 2: you had a child with, who nerved your child. It's disgusting. Now,
25:17
Speaker 2: with the grave evidence documented, the police felt they had
25:21
Speaker 2: enough to move. They descended on the house Michelina shared
25:24
Speaker 2: with Marson and his parents, the very place where her
25:28
Speaker 2: nightmare had begun only hours before.
25:33
Speaker 1: When they burst inside, they found Marson and Patrick doing
25:37
Speaker 1: something so mundane it defied logic. They were sitting there
25:43
Speaker 1: controllers in hand, still playing their fucking video games. Guys,
25:48
Speaker 1: there was no panic, There was no remorse from them. Okay,
25:53
Speaker 1: just picture this. They looked like two dudes enjoying a
25:56
Speaker 1: quiet Saturday evening gaming, as if they hadn't just shoveled
26:01
Speaker 1: dirt onto the face of the woman who loved Marson.
26:07
Speaker 1: The police didn't hesitate, and both men were handcuffed and
26:11
Speaker 1: hauled into custody on the spot. And I'm sad that
26:16
Speaker 1: I couldn't find that they had resisted arrest, because man,
26:21
Speaker 1: I'm sure the officers would have loved a few extra
26:25
Speaker 1: right now.
26:26
Speaker 2: Back at the station, Marsin sat in the interrogation room
26:30
Speaker 2: and began to spend a web of lies. There was
26:33
Speaker 2: as insulting as it was delusional. With everything that Martin
26:38
Speaker 2: has done so far, So he didn't confess to attempted murder. No,
26:43
Speaker 2: I don't know. Instead, he just tried to minimize the
26:48
Speaker 2: sheer horror he put the mother of his child through.
26:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, guys, buckle up because you thought it was crazy,
26:56
Speaker 1: It's about to get crazier because guess what, guys.
26:59
Speaker 2: I don't know. Just before we get there, I just
27:01
Speaker 2: want to preface I don't know how he thought if
27:04
Speaker 2: this sounded better.
27:05
Speaker 1: I'm not sure either. I'm not sure either, but I
27:09
Speaker 1: don't know how his brain works, and I'm kind of going.
27:12
Speaker 2: Well, oh, well, as we know anyway, go ahead, you
27:17
Speaker 2: tell you tell them so, guys.
27:20
Speaker 1: He claimed it was just meant to scare her. It
27:24
Speaker 1: was just a way to teach her a lesson. Yeah,
27:29
Speaker 1: what lesson, sir, is what I want to say. So,
27:33
Speaker 1: in his twisted version of reality, burying a woman alive
27:38
Speaker 1: and sealing her in a cardboard box was just a
27:41
Speaker 1: temporary scare tactic. He told detectives they were totally going
27:46
Speaker 1: to go back and get her once she had learned
27:50
Speaker 1: whatever lesson he felt she needed. Guys, I want y'all
27:54
Speaker 1: to let that sit in. Okay, he wanted to teach
27:59
Speaker 1: her a lesson? Okay, he framed a slow, suffocating death
28:05
Speaker 1: as a prank.
28:08
Speaker 2: How did he think this sounds better?
28:10
Speaker 1: He's a fucked hard that's why. Yeah, man, sorry for
28:15
Speaker 1: the language.
28:19
Speaker 2: I mean, who gives you the right to teach somebody
28:22
Speaker 2: else a lesson? First of all? And two?
28:27
Speaker 1: And who does that kind of lesson?
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah?
28:30
Speaker 1: How is that a lesson for anyone?
28:33
Speaker 2: Marsion's an idiot now, But even Marson's own lies couldn't
28:39
Speaker 2: hold up under the weight of the facts. He admitted
28:42
Speaker 2: to one detail that shattered his joke narrative. I mean
28:46
Speaker 2: it was already shy to begin with, but he did
28:48
Speaker 2: himself no favors because he had taken micheline it's bank
28:52
Speaker 2: card and which your own five hundred pounds and handed
28:55
Speaker 2: that cash over to Patrick. Oh, sir, you are so dumb.
29:04
Speaker 2: We are so happy you are so dumb.
29:06
Speaker 1: You're the adult. Patrick is the seventeen year old.
29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that's going to get some conspiracy charges.
29:13
Speaker 2: That's what that's going to do.
29:15
Speaker 1: And that is where the prank dies. Because if this
29:18
Speaker 1: was a joke, why did it involve robbery? Why did
29:22
Speaker 1: he need to recruit a teenager and pay him for
29:25
Speaker 1: his help. You don't pay someone to help play a prank. Guys,
29:31
Speaker 1: you pay them to help you commit a crime. It
29:34
Speaker 1: wasn't a joke. It was a contract deal and it
29:38
Speaker 1: was a plan.
29:40
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Oh no, my Lama burps are becoming amos.
29:47
Speaker 2: Had wine before the show. You have them now, lady,
29:50
Speaker 2: and Grace has stupid and incompetent, just the way we
29:54
Speaker 2: like them. Huh good, it should be now. Marson and
30:00
Speaker 2: were officially charged with kidnapping and attempted murder, charges that
30:06
Speaker 2: finally reflected the gravity of the darkness Michelina had crawled
30:10
Speaker 2: out of. But the investigators began to dig deeper into
30:16
Speaker 2: Morrison's life, and they realized the box in the woods
30:20
Speaker 2: might not have been the only horror he was hiding.
30:24
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's full of great ideas. Yeah.
30:29
Speaker 1: Once Marson was locked away in a cell, investigators returned
30:33
Speaker 1: to the family home. This time, they weren't looking for clues.
30:39
Speaker 1: They were performing a LAMA approved deep dive search for
30:44
Speaker 1: any and all evidence they could find, Okay, looking for
30:49
Speaker 1: the surface level stuff. They were doing a deep dive, okay,
30:55
Speaker 1: And what they pulled from that house shifted the entire
30:59
Speaker 1: energy of the case from a domestic core to something
31:03
Speaker 1: much more sinister.
31:06
Speaker 2: Explosives m h and y'all, we aren't talking about some
31:12
Speaker 2: like firecrackers or fireworks. No, we are talking about significant
31:19
Speaker 2: quantities of makeshift components capable of being assembled into powerful
31:26
Speaker 2: destructive devices. Remember, he just worked at a meat processing plant.
31:30
Speaker 2: There's no reason to need any of this, and it
31:33
Speaker 2: really does make you wonder like, what was his Indian here?
31:40
Speaker 2: What all is happening with this guy?
31:44
Speaker 1: So the discovery added a terrifying layer to Marson's profile.
31:50
Speaker 1: It was no longer just about what he had done.
31:53
Speaker 1: It was about what else he was planning to do?
31:57
Speaker 1: Would that find the six skyrocketed and additional charges or
32:04
Speaker 1: stacked on an already heavy pile. And I love that
32:08
Speaker 1: for him.
32:09
Speaker 2: And we're in England for this too, so you know,
32:13
Speaker 2: they have different walls and different things, you know, So
32:20
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised about that at all. Now, when it
32:24
Speaker 2: came time to face the music, Marson and Patrick admitted
32:29
Speaker 2: to the kidnapping. I mean, did they have a choice
32:30
Speaker 2: now do Yeah? They figured the evidence was too high
32:36
Speaker 2: to dodge that one, and I mean, yeah, walk you
32:42
Speaker 2: no defense attorney is uh yeah, they're not going to
32:46
Speaker 2: be able to do a bunch of that. But when
32:49
Speaker 2: it came to the charge of attempted murder, that is
32:53
Speaker 2: when they drew a line in the stand. Okay, with
32:56
Speaker 2: both defendants pleading not guilty, high winks. Happy to see
33:00
Speaker 2: you here, and let me tell you, justice is a
33:05
Speaker 2: very generous word for what happened next. So prepare yourselves.
33:11
Speaker 1: I want you to stop a thake. That's where they
33:14
Speaker 1: drew the line in the sand. Yeah, just a prank,
33:18
Speaker 1: I mean, Harry, just a prank. A prank is putting
33:21
Speaker 1: a rubber snake in Lama's bed on our next trip.
33:26
Speaker 2: That I might that I'll probably catch attempted murder charges
33:30
Speaker 2: on Terry. Okay, just to let you know, get the
33:33
Speaker 2: bail money ready, I didn't in the UK, Okay.
33:39
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that crazy. We did not plan that.
33:43
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I didn't.
33:45
Speaker 1: We don't have that much fourth.
33:48
Speaker 2: Sometimes, oh that's not true. Sometimes I plan the cases,
33:51
Speaker 2: I mean, but not of those times. It's interesting.
33:55
Speaker 1: In December twenty eleven, the trial began. The story that
34:00
Speaker 1: had been buried in the Huddersfield Woods was finally dragged
34:04
Speaker 1: into the light of a courtroom in Michelina. She had
34:08
Speaker 1: to do another hardest thing imaginable. She took the stand.
34:16
Speaker 2: So's there she was. She sat just feet away from
34:21
Speaker 2: the man who had shocked her, bound her and shoveled
34:25
Speaker 2: dirt over her face. And she looked at the court
34:30
Speaker 2: and told them with absolute bone chilling certainty, quote I
34:36
Speaker 2: am sure that he was going to kill the end quote.
34:40
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a guess. It wasn't a theory. It
34:44
Speaker 2: was a fact that she had lived. I mean, there
34:47
Speaker 2: is no I don't know if he didn't know that.
34:52
Speaker 2: If you put somebody in a box underground, that guy,
34:55
Speaker 2: that's that's not.
34:56
Speaker 1: A prank, people. A prank is something funny where everybody
35:01
Speaker 1: at the end of it laughs. Right, that's a prank. Hello,
35:06
Speaker 1: monkey butt. The defense led by Julian Goose. Could you
35:13
Speaker 1: imagine being an attorney, a defense attorney, and your last
35:16
Speaker 1: name was Goose? Okay, I want to say, is dut
35:18
Speaker 1: dut Goose? But anyway, he tried to play the ultimate
35:22
Speaker 1: gas light, Okay, tried to soften the monster.
35:27
Speaker 2: You know.
35:28
Speaker 1: They argue that Marson only wanted to scare her. Guys.
35:32
Speaker 1: They even had the audacity to point to the handle
35:37
Speaker 1: holes on the cardboard box, suggesting they were left open
35:42
Speaker 1: so she could breathe, as if he was some kind
35:46
Speaker 1: of considerate executioner. Guys, he also had tape over her mouth,
35:51
Speaker 1: don't forget, and also as if a few centimeters of
35:55
Speaker 1: cardboard could erase the three hundred thousand volts, the tape,
36:00
Speaker 1: and the shallow grave, so.
36:06
Speaker 2: Buffy says, guys, he was just kidding, lighten up. Yeah, no,
36:13
Speaker 2: it's Buffy also says it's giving Sarah.
36:15
Speaker 1: I mean when Mama earlier said yeah, what defense wants
36:19
Speaker 1: to Yeah, this defense attorney was on board.
36:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. But Michelina didn't flinch. No, she told
36:28
Speaker 2: the court quote, I can tell you now that they
36:32
Speaker 2: were not left, especially or intentionally for me to live.
36:38
Speaker 2: She described the prayer, the suffocating dark, and the image
36:42
Speaker 2: of her son that acted as her only tether to
36:46
Speaker 2: the world above.
36:49
Speaker 1: And guess who eventually took the stand for his own
36:52
Speaker 1: defense Marson.
36:56
Speaker 2: But idyo, this guy just just dummer face right, And
37:01
Speaker 2: he admitted he took her.
37:03
Speaker 1: Yes, he admitted he put her in a box. But
37:08
Speaker 1: then he looked the jury in the eyes and maintained
37:12
Speaker 1: his story that it wasn't meant to end her life.
37:17
Speaker 1: He tried to frame the most terrifying experience a human
37:20
Speaker 1: can endure is something explainable, a mistake that could be
37:27
Speaker 1: walked back with the right words.
37:31
Speaker 2: How you were able to say that to Jerry those
37:35
Speaker 2: coming out of your mouth? Wow, he thought people were
37:40
Speaker 2: going to believe that.
37:41
Speaker 1: He is delusional.
37:44
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now that he is that he is, Yes,
37:48
Speaker 2: and Buffy. Oh he is Sarah Boone then yeah, yeah,
37:52
Speaker 2: it turns out yes, pretty much. Wow. Now, Patrick, the seventh,
38:00
Speaker 2: teen year old accomplice, chose a different path because he
38:03
Speaker 2: has a little bit more sense than or he's got
38:06
Speaker 2: some parents or some parents. He didn't testify at all. Instead,
38:13
Speaker 2: he stayed silent, leaving his future in the hands of
38:17
Speaker 2: the jury, hoping that his age and Marson's influence would
38:22
Speaker 2: be enough to shield him from the heaviest consequences. And
38:25
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, of the two of them, yes,
38:27
Speaker 2: I do think Marson deserves more heavier consequences for sure. Great,
38:34
Speaker 2: he planted it, he plotted it, he recruited this was
38:38
Speaker 2: his he did child and he recruited a kid. I
38:43
Speaker 2: know he's seventeen, but like what yeah, yeah, so we'll
38:50
Speaker 2: see how it turns out. Let's se Yeah.
38:51
Speaker 1: The trial moved forwardward with two very different versions of
38:55
Speaker 1: that night. One version was a nightmare of survival. The
39:01
Speaker 1: other was just a prank that went a little too far.
39:06
Speaker 1: And now, Frank it was up to twelve strangers to
39:09
Speaker 1: decide which one was the truth.
39:13
Speaker 2: Now, on January thirteenth, twenty twelve, the way finally came
39:17
Speaker 2: to an end after eight hours of deliberation, which is shocking,
39:23
Speaker 2: eight hours of liberation.
39:25
Speaker 1: Why did it take eight hours. I'm guessing they were
39:28
Speaker 1: arguing over Patrick and they were talking about the seventeen
39:31
Speaker 1: year old, because they could not have been discussing Marson's
39:35
Speaker 1: I feel yeah, I'm going to just say that's my belief.
39:40
Speaker 2: That makes sense. So after eight hours of deliberation, the
39:45
Speaker 2: jury returned to the courtroom with a verdict that would
39:48
Speaker 2: determine if the law saw the same monster Michelina did
39:52
Speaker 2: and Marson has passed, has carser Zach? Anyway, that asshole.
40:00
Speaker 2: He found guilty of attempted murder. Yay, right applies.
40:06
Speaker 1: As for the teenager Patrick Bores, the jury found him
40:10
Speaker 1: not guilty of attempted murder. As for the teenager Patrick Bores,
40:16
Speaker 1: they found him not guilty of the attempt to kill,
40:19
Speaker 1: though he is still he's still faced the consequences of
40:23
Speaker 1: the kidnapping that he had already admitted to.
40:28
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't know how they found not
40:31
Speaker 2: guilty on the attemptive killed. Maybe it's probably his age.
40:35
Speaker 1: You know why you helped putting put this woman in
40:38
Speaker 1: a box.
40:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how You're seventeen and don't know
40:42
Speaker 2: that if you put a person in a box underground,
40:45
Speaker 2: chances are they're going to die because they are, like,
40:47
Speaker 2: it's not it's not a question answer.
40:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean unless we don't know if Marson told him, yeah,
40:54
Speaker 1: let's go play some video games and then we'll go
40:56
Speaker 1: back and get her out.
40:57
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, all right, that's hey, you know
41:00
Speaker 2: what those are fair points. Actually we don't know. We
41:04
Speaker 2: don't know what story Marson told him, and so okay, anyways,
41:11
Speaker 2: that's very interesting. Now, Judge Peter Collier did not mince
41:16
Speaker 2: words when it came down to hand came time to
41:19
Speaker 2: hand down the punishment. There we go.
41:22
Speaker 1: There, I love that way.
41:23
Speaker 2: Fancy his fancy judge clothes. Now, he dismantled the prank
41:30
Speaker 2: defense once and for all, describing Marson's actions as a cold,
41:36
Speaker 2: planned attempt to end a life. Quote, I must have
41:40
Speaker 2: regard to the uniquely chilling nature of this case, as
41:45
Speaker 2: I have already observed, being buried alive must be one
41:50
Speaker 2: of the most dreadful ways to die that anyone can imagine.
41:58
Speaker 1: It's my biggest fears, and I think it's a lot
42:00
Speaker 1: of people's fears. Yeah, for the attempted murder, Marson was
42:05
Speaker 1: sentenced to twenty years, but the clock didn't stop there.
42:09
Speaker 1: Because of the explosives and the prohibited weapons found in
42:13
Speaker 1: that house, another eight years were tacked on, giving him
42:17
Speaker 1: a total of twenty eight years. But here's the reality
42:21
Speaker 1: that is always hard to swallow in the UK system.
42:27
Speaker 1: He could be eligible for parole after serving just half
42:31
Speaker 1: of that time.
42:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know about you guys, but I
42:35
Speaker 2: feel like people that get like attended murder charges, they
42:39
Speaker 2: need to be at the same level, quite frankly as murder.
42:42
Speaker 2: Like so what they're dumb and didn't complete it, like
42:46
Speaker 2: it's still it still takes like it's.
42:49
Speaker 1: They just got lucky that they weren't successful, So we're
42:51
Speaker 1: rewarding them.
42:52
Speaker 2: For failing, right, I mean with attempted murder Like, Okay,
42:57
Speaker 2: So there's different kinds of murders. Not all of them
43:00
Speaker 2: are intentional. Not everyone that commits murder is a murderer,
43:07
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. I mean, technically they are, but
43:11
Speaker 2: there's several scenarios where you could come up with hypotheticals
43:15
Speaker 2: where something might just need self defense.
43:18
Speaker 1: For one, right, they also tortured her, he shocked her,
43:22
Speaker 1: with a stun gun and taped her up and left
43:26
Speaker 1: her on the floor at the house for something and
43:28
Speaker 1: then buried her alive, buried her alive.
43:31
Speaker 2: So yeah, like, I don't know. I don't know why
43:35
Speaker 2: they always get people with a tempted murder lesser sentences.
43:38
Speaker 2: If somebody knows, I would love to know why. I
43:41
Speaker 2: really would, because I feel like they serve less time.
43:46
Speaker 2: But like what it's like, Oh, they'll encourage them to
43:50
Speaker 2: finish the job. No, attempted murder is usually people that
43:53
Speaker 2: are just real bad just by chance it wasn't murder,
43:57
Speaker 2: is what no thinks in cases. Yeah, it is bs
44:01
Speaker 2: total bitess And listen, that's not a UK thing. We
44:04
Speaker 2: do it here in the States. Took it blows my
44:06
Speaker 2: mind because the only way you mess you get attempted
44:12
Speaker 2: murder is basically if you intended that person to die
44:15
Speaker 2: and you just didn't do it. No thanks some cases,
44:18
Speaker 2: here's a chance to try again someday because she lived
44:21
Speaker 2: bonkers exactly, Like you're just like, oh, here, by the way,
44:26
Speaker 2: you sat through this whole court case, here's what you
44:28
Speaker 2: did wrong. So when you get out again, I just
44:33
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's one thing that's always bucked to me.
44:35
Speaker 1: So you also remember, I forget what case it was
44:39
Speaker 1: that we covered that. There's no such thing as attempted Arson.
44:44
Speaker 2: Yes, wasn't that, I get a pillow higher, I wrote.
44:52
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that the DC one or was it?
44:55
Speaker 1: I don't remember. There is no such thing as attempted Arson.
44:59
Speaker 1: So if you set it all up and your thing
45:02
Speaker 1: didn't ignite it, you can't be charged. Yeah, just because
45:07
Speaker 1: you were bad at it. I mean, we literally are
45:11
Speaker 1: rewarding them for being bad. I don't get it.
45:16
Speaker 2: I don't get it either. I don't get it either. Okay,
45:21
Speaker 2: so now he was sentenced to twenty eight years. Well,
45:24
Speaker 2: Patrick was sentenced to four and a half years for
45:27
Speaker 2: his role in the kidnapping, and based on that timeline,
45:31
Speaker 2: he has almost certainly been walking free for years, though
45:36
Speaker 2: his current whereabouts remain unconfirmed. And I don't know how
45:42
Speaker 2: I feel about that, but I guess I kind of
45:46
Speaker 2: understand it.
45:47
Speaker 1: But also think of where he lives. They're known for
45:51
Speaker 1: giving them new identities if they do stuff as a minor.
45:56
Speaker 2: But if he was being tried with Marson, I would
45:58
Speaker 2: think he'd be tried as an adult. I don't know.
46:00
Speaker 2: I don't know how UK works. It's a very interesting point.
46:04
Speaker 2: I wish I know, I didn't need to go down
46:06
Speaker 2: more rabbit holes with this story.
46:09
Speaker 1: So the fact that a blinding makes me wonder did
46:12
Speaker 1: they allow a name change or something to not let
46:15
Speaker 1: his past dictate his future?
46:19
Speaker 2: And I hope it he did it. It didn't well,
46:21
Speaker 2: I mean you're seventeen. Yeah, still he knows the great
46:25
Speaker 2: eighteen right and wrong. Yeah, and that putting somebody in
46:28
Speaker 2: the dirt's going to kill them? Yeah, no, fine, Yeah.
46:32
Speaker 1: After the verdict was read, Michelina spoke to the press
46:37
Speaker 1: for the first time. The terror in her voice was
46:41
Speaker 1: replaced by something she had been waiting on for months, relief.
46:47
Speaker 1: I am so happy by the verdict because for me
46:51
Speaker 1: it means peace at last. I was waking up at
46:55
Speaker 1: nights having nightmares where I saw Marson's face he was
47:00
Speaker 1: hunting me.
47:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think those words of hers, they are
47:07
Speaker 2: really do remind us all that survival isn't just about
47:13
Speaker 2: crawling out of a hole in the dirt. The fear
47:17
Speaker 2: it follows you. It follows you into your sleep, into
47:22
Speaker 2: your quiet moments, and into every shadow that looks a
47:28
Speaker 2: little too much like a person You once left, like
47:32
Speaker 2: I don't know.
47:33
Speaker 1: She still has a son with him. He gets out,
47:37
Speaker 1: he could try to contact your so I mean, yeah,
47:44
Speaker 1: it never goes away. Well as for Morson, if he
47:48
Speaker 1: serves his full term without early release, which we know
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Speaker 1: doesn't always happen, he won't see the outside of a
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Speaker 1: prison cell until twenty forty US the UK justice system
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Speaker 1: keeps a tighter little on inmate records than we do
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Speaker 1: in the States. We also don't know where he is.
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Speaker 1: I sadly suspect he's out.
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Speaker 2: Well. And Michelina, if you're wondering where she's been well,
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Speaker 2: she did what any mother would do after staring death
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Speaker 2: in the face. She chose to disappear, and this time
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Speaker 2: not because she was forced into a box, but because
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Speaker 2: she chose protection.
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Speaker 1: Yes, she and her son were relocated to a secret location,
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Speaker 1: far away from the woods of Huddersfield and the man
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Speaker 1: who tried to erase her. There were no more interviews
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Speaker 1: from her or public updates, just quiet, safe and peaceful
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Speaker 1: life that guys they rightfully deserve. And I hope she
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Speaker 1: has found happiness some peace.
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Speaker 2: Same now if you're if you are experiencing course of control,
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Speaker 2: isolation or domestic abuse help is available at the National
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Speaker 2: start start to eight eight seven eighty eight. Now on
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Speaker 2: our next episode of True Crime and Wine Time, to
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Speaker 2: the outside world, Doctor Christopher Dolson was living the ultimate
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Speaker 2: American dream, a brilliant Texas surgeon, a beautiful family, and
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Speaker 2: a suburban home decorated with twinkling Christmas lights. But behind
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Speaker 2: the closed front door of that quiet house, a countdown
49:58
Speaker 2: was already ticking.
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Speaker 1: On December ninth, twenty seventeen, the unimaginable happened. A family
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Speaker 1: was shattered, a community was left an absolute disbelief, and
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Speaker 1: the immediate headlines painted the picture of a monster. But
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Speaker 1: here at True Crime and Wine Time, we don't stop
50:20
Speaker 1: at the criten scene tapes. We look for the why.
50:23
Speaker 1: We look to understand.
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Speaker 2: In this special two part episode event, we will be
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Speaker 2: pulling back the corporate curtain on a silent public health
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Speaker 2: crisis hiding in clean sights. You want to talk about
50:38
Speaker 2: rabbit holes, We've been down.
50:40
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm still going down rabbit holes.
50:44
Speaker 2: We're going to unravel how a system built to heal,
50:47
Speaker 2: instead creates masters of disguise, forcing our most brilliant medical
50:53
Speaker 2: minds to suffer in absolute silence and too terrified to
50:58
Speaker 2: ask for help because the stigma will destroy their careers.
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Speaker 1: But guys, the story doesn't end in Texas. We follow
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Speaker 1: the dominoes all the way to the Pacific Northwest, where
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Speaker 1: a historic bombshell class action lawsuit is blowing the whistle
51:16
Speaker 1: on physician health programs.
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Speaker 2: And we'll expose a corporate monopoly that targets doctors in crisis.
51:25
Speaker 2: You will hear the infuriating stories of real world survivors,
51:31
Speaker 2: like the resident whose career was held hostage over an
51:35
Speaker 2: erroneous administrative billing mistake, and the surgeon slacked with a
51:40
Speaker 2: catastrophic false diagnosis belonging to a completely different patient. Now,
51:48
Speaker 2: this isn't just a story about crime. It is an
51:53
Speaker 2: expose on a profit driven trap that leaves a trail
51:58
Speaker 2: of devastation.
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Speaker 1: And through the ash of unspeakable tragedy, we witness the
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Speaker 1: radical grace of a mother's survival, Rachel Dawson's courageous fight
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Speaker 1: to fight to light to life her one life as three. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: one life as three, I've now had two glasses a
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Speaker 1: wife that's fine turning an unfathomable loss into a fierce
52:27
Speaker 1: mission for domestic abuse awareness and Gunsen's laws.
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Speaker 2: It's time to dismantle the mask. So pour your glass,
52:38
Speaker 2: take your seat on our lovely True Crime and Wine
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52:44
Speaker 2: of the medical system's darkest secret, The Tragedy of Doctor
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Speaker 2: Chris Dawson. Parts one and two. You can find us
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52:56
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Speaker 2: our YouTube channel True Crime and One Time.
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Speaker 1: I have to say, we got some heavy stuff. That's
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Speaker 1: this case was heavy, but she came out a survivor. Yes,
53:16
Speaker 1: Snoop is working for Shizzle. Absolutely Snoop is working. The
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Speaker 1: Dawson stuff is gut wrenching, not just because of the crime,
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Speaker 1: but because of the other stuff.
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Speaker 2: It's my fault. You all can be mad at me
53:38
Speaker 2: two episodes from now and be like, Lama, why you
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Speaker 2: keep doing this to us?
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Speaker 1: It's all la that I mean, to the point I'm
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Speaker 1: asking Double H to reach out to his best friend
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Speaker 1: who's a surgeon. I even sent my ex husband a
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Speaker 1: text message today to ask questions about it. Wow, because
53:58
Speaker 1: I got quite because I'm worried there's going to be
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Speaker 1: more crimes and tragedies like what happened. And yes it's
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Speaker 1: a crime, but it's a tragedy guys, what happened to
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Speaker 1: doctor Chris Sawson.
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Speaker 2: So it's a different kind of story, not one that
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Speaker 2: we particularly have told in this way, but it's very important,
54:18
Speaker 2: so I look forward to that. As for Michelina Broh,
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Speaker 2: she to her, I mean, I hope she is just
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Speaker 2: out there living her best life. Yep. And I'm glad
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Speaker 2: that like she just disappeared because I would too ohm
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Speaker 2: possibly being out again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean just knowing they could no. No. Now, guys,
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Speaker 1: I I wish I could meet Michelina in person, not
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Speaker 1: to ask her questions, but just to hug her and
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Speaker 1: see if I could get some of her strength, just
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Speaker 1: to bleed into me.
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Speaker 2: I wish that the UK was more open with their
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Speaker 2: cases like we are in the States, where you can
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Speaker 2: like foy your stuff, because I do have a lot
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Speaker 2: of questions about Marsin and the explosive, like what is
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Speaker 2: happening in Yeah, there's so much information that's not available
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Speaker 2: to the public, and I understand that doing that has
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Speaker 2: its pros and cons, But I'm a big believer in
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Speaker 2: transparency and judicial systems for a good reason. Y and
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Speaker 2: I do wish we could know more overall about all
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Speaker 2: of that, but I hope her and her little boy
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Speaker 2: are just having a wonderful life together, so agreed.
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Speaker 1: And guys, please be safe, stay away, if you see something,
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