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#262 - Immortality Isn't the Answer (Here's Why) · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  If you had a choice and you could live forever, would you do it?
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  Would you want to live forever?
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  Stephen Bartlett on the Diary of a CEO podcast had on there a Harvard professor
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  who discussed what they science breakthroughs that are happening,
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  that we could be getting closer to a point where we could reverse aging and
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  maybe eventually live forever. This singularity moment.
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  Would you want to be around for that time? We're going to dive into this.
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  And I want to give, would it be the best thing if that actually happened?
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  This is what most people forget is that technology isn't static.
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  When you're old, you will not be
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  using today's technology. You'll be using technology of 2070, 2080, right?
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  And then you'll be able to live into the 22nd century and take advantage of those technologies.
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  That's why people talk about the singularity. The singularity is this idea that
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  if you can make it to a certain point in human history, you won't have to age anymore.
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  And that's in the future, right? But first steps first. Let's show that we can
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  get this to cure blindness and then get to the point where every year that we
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  get one year older, we can get one year younger.
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  When that happens, it's a very interesting world, right? You don't have to age anymore.
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  That is a future. I don't know when we're going to get there.
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  But if you don't live 10 to 20 years longer than your parents, something's wrong.
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  On that point of the singularity so this is a particular moment in
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  time where we're going to be able to make aging or age
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  reversal i guess a choice right so that i guess the thinking or the theory is
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  that if you can just make sure you survive up until this particular date then
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  you have the choice to live forever is that how is that like the theory that's
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  what they say yes oh that's very interesting i and the the date that people
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  are throwing out there is 2040 i.
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  But in the near future, they're getting to the point where they're doing tests
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  on animals like mice, and they're seeing things that they can reverse the age
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  and slow down that process.
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  But when we just like take when we think about this, you personally,
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  if you could live forever, would you? Would you want to live forever?
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  I think of Conan O'Brien. I heard like a story. It wasn't really a joke of his,
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  but he gave a story of when he was young. He asked his I think I was a nun.
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  He went to a Catholic school.
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  And he asked her, what is heaven going to be like? What is heaven?
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  And the answer that she gave, God bless her.
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  But the answer she gave was, what is your favorite thing to do?
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  And Conan being a little kid, he's like, I like coloring.
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  And then she's like, well, that's what heaven is going to be like forever.
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  And that just terrified Conan O'Brien because he's like, you think I want to
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  color forever and ever and ever?
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  And it's just really, it's like, it's, it's funny because the natural man,
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  the natural person, that's what they think of.
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  Oh, we're going to just be off in the sky, you know, playing harps in the clouds,
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  you know, singing praise to God.
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  How fun can that be? and it's just this this weird just because it's not something
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  we can comprehend it's not in our,
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  it's not in our natural world so it's like it doesn't make sense but when you
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  give this just metaphor of we we're just going to be coloring forever it doesn't
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  that doesn't sound too fun and i can understand why that would terrorize conan
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  o'brien and probably just put him off on even though she's doing the best she
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  can she like we all make analogies we want to make these things.
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  That reaches us at our level where we're at right now.
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  But there's this difference going on with regular people, the people that you
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  go across today, because that is like throughout history, since we have been
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  separated from God, we're always trying to be self-reliant.
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  We want to reach our own goals. We want to live forever.
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  But God, he in his grace, he made it so that we didn't live forever.
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  That's like the story in the book of Genesis.
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  That whenever Adam and Eve sinned, he made it impossible so that they couldn't
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  reach out to the tree of life and live forever. And there was grace in that because...
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  In our fallen state, we understand that nobody's perfect.
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  It's like, it wouldn't be that great to live forever how we are, how we are right now.
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  And the whole point of it is because we want to live self-sustaining,
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  whereas God is the one who sustains everything.
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  And it's like, we want to do it on our own and we don't want to like be with him.
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  And God knows that that's not the best for us. And this, cause this is where
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  it goes. I know I'm kind of dumbing it down because I'm probably like a dummy or whatever.
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  I, I, I, I think in these simple terms terms, um, but I just see it over and over.
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  It's a cycle and repeat that people want to live forever. That's our goal.
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  We want to try to do something. We want to make our health.
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  And it's not like, cause there is a goodness. I was just talking to my wife
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  about this, about like, I don't necessarily want to live.
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  I wouldn't want to live forever the way that I am now because this world is
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  not great. I'm not the greatest person.
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  I mess up and all that. And, but she was like, it's good to take care of your
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  health because of quality of life.
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  The way that you go through life now, it is good because you're going to feel
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  better as you age, but there has to be a term, a terminating point because if
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  we just went on and on the whole,
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  that's, we're not, we're not at peace because we're separated from God at this point.
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  We need to be with him. We need to be with our maker. God has made impossible
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  to, for us to be complete away from him.
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  And I think that this is just a natural men perspective because they're like, God might be real.
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  He might be a thing. He might not. I don't know. We'll find out, I guess, whatever.
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  And so like, and since we don't know what's going to happen,
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  we just want to prolong this thing because we don't want to come to the realization of death.
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  We're all going to reach it. We're all going to make it to death.
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  And we just want to push that off.
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  It is kind of a little bit, I don't know, ominous that we are getting to this
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  point where we could get a point where we have these science breakthroughs that
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  people could reverse aging and start living forever.
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  God said in the book of Genesis, when they were trying to make the Tower of
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  Babel, that with these people, they could do almost anything.
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  And that's why he had to confuse their language.
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  When they're all working together, it's like we have a very immense power in
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  us. and God, they were making a tower to Babel for their own glory so that they
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  could say, we don't need you, God. We can do it. We're good.
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  And I think this is the same thing. I think we should take care of ourselves.
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  But when it gets to the point that we don't need God, we're going to just live forever on our own.
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  We see that over and over that God, he puts these stop gaps in place so that
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  we realize we do need him.
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  And I think that this isn't always the greatest thing because what people want
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  to hear, they want to hear about wealth. They want to hear about getting rich.
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  They want to hear about living, like having health and all that.
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  And I think those are good things. But when you get to the point where you want
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  to live forever, that's just showing you that your mind is not seeing things clearly.
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  We're not meant to live forever here.
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  We're meant to live with God.
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  And that's the whole difference between heaven and hell.
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  These are very stark contrasts because one is with God and the other is apart from God.
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  And God is the source of goodness and grace, and he's perfect.
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  And it's like, when we want to just do our own thing, we're going to fall off a cliff.
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  And I respect that Stephen Bartlett, he just had on there, Wes Huff on there,
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  and they got into a lot of this heaven stuff and all this God things.
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  We, he immediately went to, went to this because, I mean, it is tough because
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  it's like, once you go down the God route, I know we can talk about other things,
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  but it's like, once you start really talking about God and thinking about God, he is all that matters.
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  Jesus Christ, he's better than TikTok.
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  He's better than Twitter. He's better than the best thing in this life that you're going to find.
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  And it's like, that's why there's this like community. If like with everybody
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  on earth, if you could go across the world and if someone knows Christ,
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  you have the most, like, you have a connection with them that you don't have
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  with anybody because the person that is perfect, that we all love and we are all worshiping,
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  it's like nothing, everything else is a letdown.
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  And I think this world is a letdown and God doesn't want us to be letdown.
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  And that's why he doesn't want us to live forever in this condition.
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  He wants us to live forever with him.
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  So let's go forward and try to take care of our health, you know,
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  because for have that quality of life, but have a right mindset.
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  We're not meant to live forever. And almost it's a judgment.
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  If we would live forever, we see in like in revelation, the book of revelation,
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  it says that people are going to be wanting, seeking death, but they're not
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  going to be able to find it.
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  And that might be because we have some type of scientific breakthrough that
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  people are injecting themselves and they can't die and they just want to,
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  they want to, and they can't, they can't escape.
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  It's that you're coloring forever.
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  And this, you're doing something you're, you're, we're chasing after something
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  that is less than we're always chasing after the counterfeit as opposed to the
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  real deal, which is God. All right, we'll leave it at that.
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