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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. I smell right now. I have body odor
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  Speaker 1: because I have not showered in several days. I do
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  Speaker 1: that occasionally in the wintertime, which it is right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure when this is going to air, probably
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  Speaker 1: more like spring, but this one really did air in
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  Speaker 1: the spring, in fact, on April eleventh, twenty twelve. Body
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  Speaker 1: odor colon. You stink, but you know I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to yx someone's gum. Some people like their natural musk.
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  Speaker 1: Let it fly if that's your deal. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Smell how you want to smell, but don't be offended
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  Speaker 1: if someone thinks you smell bad. Welcome to Stuff you
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  Speaker 1: should know, a production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Charles W.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck'brian is with me. If my nose doesn't deceive me.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't do my cheeks today. That's bad luck.
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  Speaker 2: No, thank you. I don't think that that's gonna save
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  Speaker 2: this episode, but it will make it from being the worst,
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  Speaker 2: probably like the one, the unreleased one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in case of break, we'll make that. When we retire,
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  Speaker 1: that'll be our final episode. We'll go out with a whimper.
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  Speaker 2: That's not bad idea. Yeah, there's a lost episode everyone
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  Speaker 2: that only Jerry, Chuck and I know about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in case of emergency break glass episode.
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  Speaker 2: It is so bad that if something happens, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: we release the emergency episode.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels good to have, does it. Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we have a margin of error, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but of one. Yeah, all right, Chuck, let's get this started,
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  Speaker 2: all right. You stink?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you?
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  Speaker 2: I stink? Yes, we all stink.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't stink. Jerry smells like lilac.
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  Speaker 2: She does. But the wow, you just threw me off
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  Speaker 2: with that one. Sorry, But your stink and my stink
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  Speaker 2: are unique. It's like, uh, it's called an odor type, right,
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  Speaker 2: So an odor type is, as I said, very unique.
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  Speaker 2: It's so unique that there is research into figuring out
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  Speaker 2: how to identify somebody through their odor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought that was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a smelly fingerprint. Yeah. And no matter what
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  Speaker 2: you do, it can't be masked, like, you can't alter
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  Speaker 2: it to where a machine that's designed to molecularly analyze odors, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: can't say oh it's Josh, oh and there's Chuck. And
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  Speaker 2: they're also they're really laying on the Polo cologne today
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  Speaker 2: for some.
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  Speaker 1: Reason, because it's nineteen eighty five.
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  Speaker 2: That's my man. I remember the day I could you
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  Speaker 2: wear that's the bottle of Polo. It's like the size
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  Speaker 2: of my torso. And I was so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I only wore one cologne in my life for like
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  Speaker 1: two years in high school. Oh yeah, yeah, Benetton Colors.
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  Speaker 2: It was fancy pants.
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  Speaker 1: But I haven't wor cologne since literally I was seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I went through maybe like three periods in my
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  Speaker 2: life where I wore Colone for a little while, and
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  Speaker 2: finally I'm like, I don't wear cologne? What am I doing?
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  Speaker 1: Not many guys do anymore, do they?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: At the gym I go to, it's like get out
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  Speaker 2: of the sauna. Now, wow, it's bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I told you, I think one time when
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  Speaker 1: I lived in Arizona for a year. It may be cultural,
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  Speaker 1: but those dudes wore Colone like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And hair jail, don't they.
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  Speaker 1: I seem to remember a fair amount of dipity doo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona is like New Jersey West, So anyway, we
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  Speaker 2: all have very distinct odor types, is what it's called.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and not only can you not alter it with
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  Speaker 2: a machine, but if you're a mouse and you try
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  Speaker 2: to mask your sense, other mice can still see who
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  Speaker 2: you are through their nose.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that study. Should we tell them that
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  Speaker 1: the technique they use, even though I don't underst in it,
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  Speaker 1: it involves tickling, uh, volatile VOCs like you get in paint,
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  Speaker 1: volatile organic compounds. Yeah, also in your.
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  Speaker 2: Body, which is just something that turns to gas at
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  Speaker 2: what we consider room temperature exactly.
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  Speaker 1: They use They can analyze these sense in your sweats,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it in urine using gas chromatography, mass
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  Speaker 1: spectrauma spectrometry.
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  Speaker 2: That's good stuff. I'm glad you got hung up on
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  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how that works, so I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have enough time to look into that. But that's what
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  Speaker 1: the Pentagon and the Homeland Security are using to try
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  Speaker 1: and snip out terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also apparently to figure out if someone's
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  Speaker 2: lying because there's different kinds of sweat. There's different kinds
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  Speaker 2: of sweat glands. As you know, we've actually kind of
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  Speaker 2: covered some of this. Remember we did what's the difference
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  Speaker 2: between any perse brant indio drank? Which again, yes, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think that was me. I mean you were
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  Speaker 2: wildly impressed with Like I had a theory about deodorant
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  Speaker 2: stocks going up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Remember hormones and milk are making kids hit puberty younger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in my opinion, and then with global warming, people
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  Speaker 2: are going to need more deodorant, so deodorant stocks were
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  Speaker 2: the way to go.
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  Speaker 1: That's not as good as my early man theory. What happened?
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  Speaker 2: They melted? Yeah, that's what happened the Neanderthals.
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  Speaker 1: These are the old days. Yeah. I think that Deodorante
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  Speaker 1: was like one of the ten minute shows, wasn't it. It
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  Speaker 1: was pretty quick, like really early.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but we're going to revisit it because even
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  Speaker 2: you don't remember it, and you were in it.
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  Speaker 1: I remember now.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about the different kinds of
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  Speaker 2: sweat clans because we've also talked about this before. And
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  Speaker 2: what can you sweat colors?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but let's let's do it again. You want to
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  Speaker 2: sure that was the intro duck.
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  Speaker 1: That's great, I love it. You know. They also have
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  Speaker 1: studies that say that little babies are more attracted to
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  Speaker 1: their mothers, obviously because of their scent and like early on, right,
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  Speaker 1: humans can sniff out their parents, which is and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's a theory of mine. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty well established that if you're like a smoker, even
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  Speaker 1: if you like, oh I don't smoke around my kids,
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  Speaker 1: they still sniff that stuff out and they are more
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  Speaker 1: likely to smoke later on because of that.
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  Speaker 2: Is that true?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, children of smokers are way more likely
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  Speaker 1: to smoke.
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  Speaker 2: I know in studies of babies born eyelists and as worms,
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  Speaker 2: they will like they'll sniff their parents out and like
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  Speaker 2: just wiggle over toward them even though they can't see,
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  Speaker 2: usually can't hear.
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  Speaker 1: It's a neat study.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff in here like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so let's talk about the different kinds of sweat glands. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you got ecering lands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are my favorite, same here because they cool
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  Speaker 1: me off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're innocuous. Yeah, they basically just secrete water and electrolytes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which if you've seen idiocracy, you know how important electrolytes are.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, And yeah, it's used to regulate body temperature.
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  Speaker 2: Hypothalamus says, hey, you're getting a little warm here. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get rid of this perspiration. The water, the Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: water and electrolytes on your skin. Yeah, when they evaporate,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to cool you down. Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And sweat doesn't stink. I think we've pointed that out before,
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  Speaker 1: but it bears repeating. The sweat itself is not smelly. No,
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  Speaker 1: And I like saying that because for obvious reasons, it's
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  Speaker 1: well established that I'm a sweaty guy. But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a smelly guy.
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  Speaker 2: No, you really aren't. I was thinking about this. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about you as I was researching this, sure,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, chuck doesn't smell. I've
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  Speaker 2: never smelled chuck. And I've been around you when you're sweating. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've been around you when you were wearing nothing but
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  Speaker 2: like shorts in a hawk's jersey sweating sweating. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 2: you better be sweating if you were in that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's because I take exactly, That's because I take
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  Speaker 1: care of myself and do all the things that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about, like bathing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So in ekron sweat, there's nothing to smell. Electrolytes
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  Speaker 2: don't in the other sweat gland and acron sweat glands
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  Speaker 2: are found all over your body. The other sweat glands
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  Speaker 2: apacrin sweat glands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, gross.
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  Speaker 2: They don't smell either. I know what you're saying, Like that,
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  Speaker 2: you produce sweat, but it has a lot more than
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  Speaker 2: just water and electrolytes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, chuck.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime a cell excretes waste, poops something out, or is
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  Speaker 2: destroyed through maybe autolysis or whatever, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: little cellular detrious and that stuff has to leave the
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  Speaker 2: body because you don't want it to build up. You
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  Speaker 2: want to get rid of your broken up dead cells,
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  Speaker 2: and they enter secretory cells in the skin and hike
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  Speaker 2: along with your sweat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the apacrine sweat is a means of disposal, cellular
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  Speaker 2: detrious disposal in your body. But even that doesn't smell. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what produces the smell?
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  Speaker 1: Uh well, And we did cover this before, but it
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  Speaker 1: is back to area that basically eats those proteins that
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  Speaker 1: we sweat out and then they poop them out.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially, they poop out fatty acids that stink. That's great,
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  Speaker 2: that's the smell. It's not us, it's the local flora. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the bacteria.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even like the word flora, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, and it doesn't even make sense because bacteria aren't plants, right,
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  Speaker 2: and even if they were plants, flora apparently refers to
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  Speaker 2: multicellular plants. Oh really Yeah, but they call local flora
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  Speaker 2: bacteria's local flora huh? And little protozoa yeah, on your body,
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  Speaker 2: those are called fauna local fauna, And I can't figure
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  Speaker 2: out why.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I bet the answers out there.
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  Speaker 2: I looked, man, really yeah, if anybody knows, this is
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  Speaker 2: the one I'd really like to know from this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what we do know is that these nasty apocrine
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  Speaker 1: glands are found in some pretty unfortunate places, like you're growing,
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  Speaker 1: you're growing, and your armpits your arm what is it?
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  Speaker 1: The accelate excellent? And your hands and your feet so
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  Speaker 1: ROAs that's where you're gonna smell in your feet. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 1: the reason they don't smell quite like your armpits is
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  Speaker 1: because they also produce fungus in addition to the bacteria
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  Speaker 1: pooping out fatty acids. Yeah, so that's why your footout
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a little different.
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  Speaker 2: It's not really coincidence that like all of these places
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  Speaker 2: are hairy, well except for your hands. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: guess the soles are your feet, but your armpits and
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  Speaker 2: you're groin are hairy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm five years old. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Naturally they're hairy. Yes, And when we wear shoes, socks, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: we are providing like these great places for bacteria to
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  Speaker 2: thrive and eat the stuff to their hearts content. But
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  Speaker 2: it takes about an hour apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good news.
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  Speaker 2: So when you start sweating apricrine cell detrius through your armpits,
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  Speaker 2: you it takes about an hour for the local bacteria
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  Speaker 2: to digest. I mean they'll eat it immediately, but then
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  Speaker 2: they lay around, have a siesta. Ye watch a little
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  Speaker 2: tit and they wake up and they're like, I got
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  Speaker 2: a poop, and they poop, and then you start smelling.
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  Speaker 1: The other gross thing. And there will be many gross things,
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  Speaker 1: but to me, one of the gross things is the
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  Speaker 1: the ekren glands secrete kind of you know, a clear liquid,
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  Speaker 1: but the apacrine glands excrete liquid that can be thicker
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  Speaker 1: and milky and yellow, which is why if you've ever
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  Speaker 1: had the old mustard stains on the undershirt, which are
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  Speaker 1: really unsightly, that means it's time to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: that undershirt. Yes it is, or if you're like me,
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  Speaker 1: then it's time to keep wearing it until it's crunchy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I know the crunch you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the deodorant as well, I hope
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  Speaker 1: though in combination with the milky yellowish secretions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Odd uh yeah, so that that's the gross stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's where your pit stains come from. Yeah, and the
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  Speaker 2: smell also. One of the big guys of the smell
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  Speaker 2: world as far as the waste products that the local
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  Speaker 2: flora are producing is E three methyl two hexenoic acid.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's making you smell. Friends, that's the one. It's
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  Speaker 2: one of And the bacteria that's producing this are called
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  Speaker 2: microcoxie or staphylocoxi. And like I said, this is where
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  Speaker 2: they love living in your armpits. And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if like they live in our armpits. Like over time
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  Speaker 2: they've become attracted to human armpits the revolution, like they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: well this is where we eat, so we live here, right,
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  Speaker 2: And they never learned you should never poop where you eat.
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  Speaker 2: They do the whole gambit, you know, or poop where
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  Speaker 2: you live.
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  Speaker 1: But no, it's poop where you eat.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's both, is it? Yeah? Okay? I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if like they were attracted to humans over time, because
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  Speaker 2: I mean, are we born with these things in our underarms?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how do we pick them up?
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  Speaker 2: How? How soon after birth do we pick them up?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think we're born because newborn babies don't
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  Speaker 1: have the apican apricant sweat, right, So that's why little
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  Speaker 1: babies smell delicious. And unless they're pooping, which is like
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  Speaker 1: an ungodly thing for such a small child.
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with babies?
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  Speaker 1: I know, so weird.
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  Speaker 2: So, yes, you're right. We aren't born with apocrine glands.
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  Speaker 2: We develop them around puberty. The outside of puberty.
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  Speaker 1: You probably won't start the body odor the bo as
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  Speaker 1: my mom always called it, till till puberty, till your
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  Speaker 1: teen years, and that's when you start getting stinky.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's not just there's not just a difference
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  Speaker 2: between little kids, between teens and tweens. Yeah, right, tweens
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  Speaker 2: down stink. Teens stink, that's right. Supposedly there's a distinction
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  Speaker 2: among races. This is highly controversial, is it. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: not nearly as cavalier as it might seem in this article.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just say like, oh, well, Asians are the
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  Speaker 2: least stinky there is there is a few supposedly. Here's
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  Speaker 2: the problem, Okay, here's the problem that the field of
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  Speaker 2: anthropology has with this. It's possible that there are differences
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  Speaker 2: among among races, sure, but you could break it down
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  Speaker 2: even further. Is it is it? Is it food based?
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  Speaker 2: Is it diet based?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Is it so if you are in northern India and
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  Speaker 2: you're eating less curry than southern India India or vice versa,
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  Speaker 2: I can't whatever, So are all Indians? Do all Indians
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  Speaker 2: share a similar smell that's more pungent than say, Europeans?
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  Speaker 2: It You can't. And even within that, it's like, how
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  Speaker 2: many vegetarians are there that hate curry that live in India?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the reason you point out curry we should point
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  Speaker 1: out is because that's mentioned specifically in the article as
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  Speaker 1: one of the more highly pungent foods that will eventually
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  Speaker 1: come out in your sweat, exactly like garlic.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But I guess the point is is when you
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  Speaker 2: differentiate among people, whether it's smell, especially something as unpleasant
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  Speaker 2: as body odor, Yeah, then you are you're creating in disparity,
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  Speaker 2: You're propagating the possibility of racist attitudes because if this
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  Speaker 2: person's different from me and how we smell, how else
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  Speaker 2: is that person different? And sure, you know, maybe I
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  Speaker 2: don't really like that person.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's not even endorse it that well, you just
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  Speaker 1: well you have.
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  Speaker 2: To be careful with Yeah. Plus, the other problem is
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  Speaker 2: is most of the research that is cited these days
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  Speaker 2: for difference among races and body odor, yeah, was last
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  Speaker 2: compiled in like the nineteen thirties.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then also for example, like agents have fewer axillary glands,
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  Speaker 2: do they? I don't know, when's the last time anyone checked.
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  Speaker 2: And then some of the other old data suggests that
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  Speaker 2: half an estimated half of Koreans don't even have acxillary glance,
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  Speaker 2: so they couldn't even sweat if they tried, you know, right,
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  Speaker 2: you see the point. So you're saying it's just hinky data,
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  Speaker 2: it's hanky old data. Yeah, I mean, you're not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to cite data over ten years old.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why don't we just as a as a show,
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  Speaker 1: as a part of the public specter, say, some people
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  Speaker 1: stink some and some people don't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, people are people. Some stink some don't.
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  Speaker 1: So why should it be Jerry like that saw that
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  Speaker 1: was headed. Yeah, men definitely are stinkier than women.
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  Speaker 2: No, that is true.
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  Speaker 1: In general, we don't mind a little sexism, especially when
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  Speaker 1: we're throwing it on ourselves as stinky men.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not sexism because it's true and it's not
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no, there's no disparaging that comes along
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, and this is actually backed up by some science.
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  Speaker 1: We have more testosterone, which is gonna up your production
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  Speaker 1: of the apercream sweat. It's just gonna lead to stinkiness.
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  Speaker 1: Another theory is that women are more efficient regulators of
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  Speaker 1: their body temperature because they have less core heat going
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: on because less muscle and fat than us dudes.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: And conversely, you can make the case that men are
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: more efficient at cooling their themselves.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, sweat true because women don't just tell sweat
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: as much. And I thought this was really interesting, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: so did Emily because I was throwing some stuff at
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: her today while I was researching. Women actually need one
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: degree higher body temperature in order to start sweating to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: begin with. Yeah, I thought that was interesting and must
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: be significant.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I found its sounding hypothesis that that s base owner
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: is attached to that and that's that women have less
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: body fluid than men and so have evolved to sweat less. Okay,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, So that would be the mechanism that
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: evolution is taking the form of.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Well, lucky ladies, is what I say.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: But what's interesting is because if you are working out
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and your lady you suffer, you stay hotter longer. Yeah, yeah,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: you get hotter. And there's a study in Japan, of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: all places, because they can't even sweat, you know where,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: they found that women could train themselves just by working
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: out a bunch, like forming a workout routine over time
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to start sweating earlier, right than women who were just
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: like working out for the first time.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Gotcha? Yeah, Well, since you brought up Japan, this is
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a sidebar, but we'll throw it in there, okay. And
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I thought this is interesting. Apparently they take their their
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: sweating and their stink pretty seriously over there, because they
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: have a couple of interesting products. One company, Aoki, has
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: developed a deodorant suit that uses fabric with silver ions
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: impregnated in it to fight off this bacteria just by
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: wearing it, right, and then they think they have determined
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: A cosmetic company thinks they have found the fatty acid
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: responsible for old people smell, which I thought was really
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: mean to say. Yeah, and no, Neil is the fatty acid.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And in Japan they call old people smell Carrie issue
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and they are trying to combat that. And I guess, yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: shesato is, grandkids all over the world are just going
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to be like spraying their grandparents stuff when they walk.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: In or when you inherit the house, you just walk
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: around and spray carry issue. Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: True. It's interesting though. I went over to my mom's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: last night and I realized that her home that it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: not the house I grew up in. This is she's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: been there for a while though, probably fifteen years. It
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: smells like my grandparents' house that I went to growing
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: up in Tennessee.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: That's interesting, like a lot like it. Yeah, And I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean that's got to have something to
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: do with heredity or maybe products or furniture. She has
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: some of their stuff to it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Oder types are genetically base, Yeah, so I mean it
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: would make sense that your mom inherited some of her
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: older type from our parents. Now it's what.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It was very comforting though. I was like, wow, oh yeah, man,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I'll bet granddaddy's house you unless your grandparents stunk like Oxen,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sure is very comforting. Yeah, abusive and hated my guts.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, which another you're like, the sin of Guardina makes
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: you like drop into the fetal position.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You never hear that of like abusive grandparents. That's like
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that would be the worst thing ever. Yeah, I'm sure
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: there are some They gotta be out there, yeah, yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but you don't hear about it much.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god, thank god. Everybody keeps that secret.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I've been around some mean old people though, so yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: well everyone has that capacity.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It's true, and that's why I quit boy Scouts and protest.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I just didn't like the idea of respecting your elders
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: no matter what. I was like, no, I has to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: earn respect. Agreed, Thank you? All right, I finally vindicated
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: after all these years.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: We did talk about this in another podcast about women
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: able to pick up I think when we talked about
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it before. It is a study about women able to
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: pick up clues through scent about whether or not someone's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a good reproductive partner. Yeah, like there.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: They would have a different immune system than you, So yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: putting together and form a super baby definitely one that
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't born without eyes with a worm like body. We
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: also kind of debunked that, oh did we? Yeah we
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: The research we found was that, like we don't even
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: have the capacity to detect pheromones any longer, most most
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: humans don't. So like that whole idea is a little
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: there was there was. It's it's hit or miss, like
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: there's some studies that suggested, yes, this is true, others
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that didn't. If you read the the release though on
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: this study that this guy's talking.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: About, Yeah, the mo Neel Center study.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy just like the researchers just totally leapt
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to a conclusion. They were like, women can differentiate eight
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Like it's tougher to mask a man's odor to a woman.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And he basically said, ergo, women can detect body odor better,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: which means that they must be detecting like something like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: immune system robustness or something. It was like, where did
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you get this extra stuff?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: You know, it's driven me crazy. I'm on a tirade
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: today with bad research.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry everyone, I'm very sorry.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that leads us right into this article.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Actually we like to point out when our own articles
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: aren't quite up to snuff. And there were a few
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: interesting things, and it's a shame that we can't find
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: verification on these, because I thought it very interesting, really interesting.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: A tribe in New Guinea says goodbye to each other
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: by rubbing each other's armpits before they.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Leave, and so you can keep a little piece of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the other person to sniff.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that was really sweet. It is not a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: bit gross. And you said that it might be bunk. Like.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I found virtually no support for this, and everything I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: found was like not a reliable son.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And then Austrian tyrol, which is a very specific place
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to bs about. But they supposedly men would dance with
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: handkerchiefs in they're tucked under their arms in their armpits,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and I guess, work up a real sweat and then
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: be like you and point to the girl he was
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: going for and wave the handkerchief under her nose. She
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: would swoon, and they'd get married and have babies in
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that order.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Wow. So you couldn't find verification for that either.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Right, No same thing, But I found even less for that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: What about the last one.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: This one appears to be true, all right.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I misinterpreted this because I told Emily this one this
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: morning that in Elizabethan times they would soak peeled apples
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: in their armpit sweat and give them to their lover
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: when they parted, and I, for some reason, took the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: leap to mean that they would eat them, and I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: thought it was the grossest thing I'd ever heard. And
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Emily was like, no, I don't think they eat them.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I think they just keep them.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But they're called love apples, by the way.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Well that's not what I call love apples.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: What do you call love apples?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Apples that you know you give to the teacher on
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: their desk because.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: It seems odd. That's an apple for the teacher.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's not a love I love apples because you love
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: your teacher.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Huh. Were you homeschooled by your mom? No? Was it?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But my dad was my principal.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I know that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know did they eat them? They just kept them.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure some sicko ate them. And how did they
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: oscar wild eate them?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: How do they collect enough? How did they collect enough
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: underarm sweat to soak them? Is what I want to know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's a Victorian. This is Elizabethan.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Soak it up in a hanky and ring it out.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe I think they just sat there for a while
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and like.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't like drip out if you're dripping.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Rub it around, all right, who knows, we'll try it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: We'll try and make a video of it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Oh so maybe they would rub the apple on their underarm.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: That would make sense. Yeah, I imagine they collected and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Hover over a table with an apple on it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Well no, I imagine they collected the under arm sweat
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in a dish and then soaked it in that. But
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that's why I was thinking, just ignore me for the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: rest of the show.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: What was it? Was it a Kids in the Hall
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: where they had like some guy's body odor was so
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: beautiful that like they had this guy like some perfume
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: company bought him basically and they had him running on
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a treadmill. And really it was either Mister Show or
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Kids in the Hall. It was heilarious, not cabbage Head,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: clearly no. And it was like a segment, like an
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: additional segment you know that you can tell where they're
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: like they put some money into it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we have those all right, where are we? Oh?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I did think this was interesting. The term bo, of course,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: comes from an advertising agency. Oh yeah, it didn't surprise
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: me at all. Nineteen nineteen Odo Rono deodorant. They and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I love how this ad goes. Remember that wonderful man
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you met, the way he danced, and the telephone number
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he asked for and never used. You should take the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: armhole ODO test. Stinky Yeah, like you, stinky woman. That's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: why the man didn't call you back.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: That's why you're a eighteen year old spinster.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Wow. So yeah, products in nineteen nineteen were not afraid
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to be sexist jerks.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: No, and I went back. I remember this back in
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: eighteen eighty eight they released a product, Mum, and think
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: back with me to the anti per sprint deodorant one.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You had to apply it with like a swab on
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a stick and it worked, but it also would like
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: burn a hole through your clothes.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And that was the first deodorant right, yes, wow.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Mum, I think it was still around for a while.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Well in Tussy what was that? I don't know?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Or what was the sprinkle a day one?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Uh, just a sprinkle a day for feet?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Have you had your sprinkle today, it was like a
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: general body deodorant. I don't think sprinkle your body like
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: gold bonde. I like the gold bond though. Oh yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: that's a lifesaver with certain things. So so Chuck, Yes,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: have you ever seen that one Simpsons where the Homer
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: and March have their kids taken away from them? Yes,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and they have to go to the government parenting class.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: That's what this next segment is going to feel. Like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: what do you do if you find that you have
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: body odor?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Well, one thing you can do, Josh, because interestingly, animals
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: would use their scent to broadcast and it would scent
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: would get tangled up in the hair, so we stick
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: around a little longer.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So obviously if you have hair and like you're growing
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: what you do and you're under arms, I could point
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it out, the smell is going to stick around longer.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So if you keep that area trim, then you're less
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: likely to have odor in those places.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's good advice.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm a believer in keeping your body neat as
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a general rule, regardless of the scent factor. Right, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: take care of yourself. Well, yeah, manage your hair, your
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: ear hair, your nose hair.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And there is nothing shameful about a man getting a
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: manicure and or petticure. Yeah, okay, that was supportive.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it has nothing to do with bodyodor, sure, nothing.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Taking care of yourself.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't have I bite my fingernails, so there's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: really kind of no point for me.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: You know. Remember Carry Grant took a bunch of acid. Yeah, Well,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the Uncle John's Bathroom Reader published like a list of
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: like some of his best quotes while he was tripping,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and the psychiatrists like wrote him down. Yeah, and one
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: of them was, if I have to look at a man,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: shouldn't he have to comb his hair and brush his teeth?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: So Carry Grant was big time into taking care of yourself.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Too well, and look what happened to him. He had
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a long, successful life exactly. He's an acting legend. Bathing Josh,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: we said, it takes an hour for the bacteria to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: do its thing, and so if you've got, you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to get a big interview or something, you a little nervous,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: take that shower less than an hour.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know if we mentioned this. Ecrin
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: sweat is triggered by body temperature. Epacrine sweat gland is
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: triggered by emotion.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't. We didn't.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Actually, anxiety, yeah, specifically is a big one that makes
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you start sweating.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, I sweated a lot when I interviewed here.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was July. Yeah, me too, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it was so August and I couldn't figure out where
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: this building was. Connley just said, like, park it. It's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: like by Lenox. I parked at Lennox Mall and walked
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in like one hundred degree heat like half mile and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: was like, my shirt was like a dark blue, even
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: though it's supposed to be light blue, and I'm like, hey,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I'm here to be interviewed by.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I remember the shirt I wore too, and it was
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: light blue, which was a big mistake. I don't know
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking. And I have not dressed that
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: nice at this job since that day, which is I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: think I should go at every job.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, are you wearing a suit? Brown? No?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: No, I should punch you for saying that I didn't
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: wear a tie or anything. And you know, it's like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: a nice shirt and pants. But look at me now.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't punch me. By the way, what.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Are some natural remedies, Josh to avoiding this kind of thing,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: into the chemicals boric acid.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Twenty Mule Team are good friends a twenty Mule team.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sprinkle a little powder under the arms.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually a low level acid. Yeah, and I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: think probably what it does is just makes your armpits
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: inhospitable local flora.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Vinegar, which is just like the most amazing thing in
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the history of the world.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Do you drink that stuff?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I mean we use vinegar for like everything you and me.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Has gotten me into, like drinking diluted vinegar, drinking it today?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Weed killer can kill weeds, yeah, like big time. Yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: like any not any, but many many chemical remedies. I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: bet you if you look up on these homespun websites,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: some kind of vinegar might help you help you out
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Well, it's changing the pH time you change the pH. Yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that something's accustomed to. It's sure probably going to just
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: die which hazel. Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I like that smell, do you?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I can't stand it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I like it baking soda. As you Oricle points out,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it works in your fridge, so it'll work on your armpits. Yeah,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I've never done that. Ideally theoretically rosemary oil. Yeah, dilute
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that in some water, little sprinkle on your underarms.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Have you done that one? Now? You know it does
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: work those t tree oil because it's an anti microbial, right,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: so it's just going to go in there and destroy
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: everything at seas.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll dry out pimples too, big time.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Well, since we're on deodorant, we might as well talk
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: about some of the controversies with any persprint.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Well, let's just give a brief overview of the difference
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: between the two. What's the difference between deodorant and anti persponant.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Well, any perspirant contains things like aluminum, and what's the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: other one.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Aluminum is the big one. Hydro hydroxy bromide.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Hydroxy bromide, and they will essentially close up your sweat
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: glands so they don't work.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It plugs them for a little while, and not only
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: no eventually, like I mean, they it is overall temporary,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: but the length of time between the application and the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: time you would start sweating again becomes longer and longer
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: with repeated use because it actually shuts down your apocrine gland.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Like it plugs, it swells it and basically says, all right,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I'm done trying.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I worry about it some. To be honest, a lot
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of people do a lot of mind yeah, which is
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, yeah, that's a lot, dude, I know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And yeah, there's there's been plenty of studies that have
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: linked aluminum to breast cancer. Yeah, and aluminum has been
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: shown to mutate cells into cancer cells, but there's never
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: been like the smoking gun, like, oh, yes, this person
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: has breast cancer because they use deodorant.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and the cancers are hard to nail that too,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because there are so many things that could be contributing.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Sure, and there's so many different types of cancer exactly.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also with what Alzheimer's.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's just a general link, a
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: general tenuous link between Alzheimer's and aluminum.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that the studies are from the nineteen sixties.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Surely they've done something since then.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think everybody's been focused on BPAs.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Really well, all the breast cancer links are, they're newer
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: than that, But there's just no one's been able to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: produce a study that's definitively linked deodorance or any perspirants
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I should say to breast cancer, right, but there's a
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: strong correlation.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: There are chalky deodorants, there are the liquid jelly types. Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you don't see the aerosols anymore, thank god. Right, and
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: then there's the disgusting roll on that I'm not sure
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: who uses still, I.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Don't know either. Didn't Tussy make a roll on? I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: think so ban Ban was big. I think they innovated
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the roll on stick, do they sure? And then also
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: we should say deodorance are they're different from any purspurts
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and that they don't stop you from wedding, but they
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: make it so that when all your cell detrius reaches
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the skin surface in your under arms, there's no local
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: floria to eat it and then produce terrible smells as a.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Waste Toms of Maine. Yeah, it's very popular natural deodorant.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I love that apricount one that my under arms laugh at.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And then the crystal stuff that makes your owner arms
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: too salty for the bacteria to live.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's like a mineral crystal deodorant. I've never
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: used this, So do you want to talk about any
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of that that's not necessarily body odor from sweating, but
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: there are some other smells that one can produce, like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: asparagus pee. If you are interested in learning about why
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: asparagus can make your pea smell, you should check out
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: our video podcast because we explained it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: That's right, you specifically explained it. We did it together,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and I think it was it. Only a percentage of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: people believe that their pea smells don't.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Don't. Don't give it away, Okay, but if you want
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to find that, you can find it on iTunes just
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: look for stuff you should know is video podcast. That's right.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You could also find it on a RSS feed on
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: how Stuff Works.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: It's short and kind of fun, like we're having a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: good time doing them. Yeah, and they're really loose and like.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Man, they're so loose.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the things we're getting away with saying, I don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: think people understand.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay. Else, Oh, so you've got asparagus p
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you have maple syrup urine disorder.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: We've talked about that too.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real thing and there's no other clinical
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: term for it, like that is the name of it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: And it's actually kind of a big deal. Like you
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: have problems with your metabolism it's a metabolic disease, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: these amino acids can build up and kill you if
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you're not careful.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's in kids, and I think adults have
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a similar condition.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: You can make it to adulthoods okay, but.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: It won't smell like maple syrup anymore. It'll smell like
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: say it, you say, burnt sugar. I'm not sure what
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that smells like.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Oh you've never it's sure like, oh, what's that wonderful
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: dessert crimbrule.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Oh well that's lovely.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, it's complaining about the smell of
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: their pea, but it's very worrisome. Gotcha, you know. Okay,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: if you are around a diabetic a person with diabetes
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: who suffers from keto acidosis, you might say that they
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: smell a bit like nail polish remover, and that their
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: breath smells kind of fruity and like juicy fruit.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Kind of gotcha.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And then what else, chuck fishoder syndrome.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that means you lack the ability to metabolize something
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: called TMA, and that apparently you smell like fish. I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: don't know what kind of fish, but it's fishy. Yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and that's pretty. What do they call that? I'm daring
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you to try and say that word.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Trimethyl amminuria. Nice, thank you.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: That is the word.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: That's that's the name primary trimethyl ammenuria.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And that is the condition which means you can't metabolize
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the TMA and that means you will smell like fish.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then if you have fennel canterneria, you might
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: have a barn like smell, musty barn like smell.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had the fish odor disease,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you sweat blue, and you had that condition that makes
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: your face silver, what kind of life would that be?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: That'd be a heck of a ride.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I'm praying that none of those things are compatible.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's possible. The blue skin thing, that's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: just from too much copper.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so there could be some comorbidity or silver
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: silver silver, yeah, sweat blue.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I got nothing else.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Well, hyperhydrosis. Just for my friends out there who suffer
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: from hyperhydrosis, I don't think I have hyperhydrosis. That's like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just extra sweaty. Hyperhydrosis is really really abnormally high,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like these sad cases you hear about, and it can
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: be men and women where your palms literally sweat all
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the time, just like leaking water, and you can there's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a variety of things you can do to treat that,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: from surgery to ion topheresis, which is using an electrical
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: current to disable your sweat.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Cland right, you can also have them surgically removed.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't mind that very the neck up really, yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: because that's where my sweat bothers me. I don't mind,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like sweaty body. But when you're like, oh, you know
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you can get botox to fix that, nothing's well, it works.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: There's a thing I do have one more thing, brome hydrophobia.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So it's the fear of sweating.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a fear of stink.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you're right.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It's a fear of stinking from sweating, as rome hydrosis is.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah your body owder. Yeah, yeah, you're right, Chuck. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: somebody who suffers from rome hydrophobia will take a lot
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: of showers every day, to the point where it's been
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: linked akin to OCD. But there's no other behavior except
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: for you know, taking showers or trying to or your
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: fear of smelling. It's not you're not You're not messing
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: with light switches or anything else too. It's just the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: spear of.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I have that with poop smell specifically, do you. Oh man,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: if I walk in the bathroom and someone's taking care
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of things, I like leave immediately. Or I will often
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: put my shirt over my nose, and I do that
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: when I clean out the litter box, and when I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: do the dog poop on the walks, I put my shirt.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I can't stand that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because anybody who's seen the Ice Storm knows that, like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: those are the volatile organic compounds of your poop that
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you're smelling. That's what the odor is. It's your poop.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: What was that about Ice Storm? I've seen that movie
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: ten times.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Some kid says it like in like a school report.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Oh really like that? Yeah, I don remember that part.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I've never seen the movie. I know that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Oh man, it's great.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I've heard yeah, Angley great director of the Hulk. Yeah yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: So what else?
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I got nothing else?
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Let's stop talking about this then, yes, please if you
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: like this one. There's a surprising amount of stuff about
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: sweating on How stuff works dot com. Sweating colors, the
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: difference between any person and deodorant. You cand of listening
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: to the old podcasts. They're good too, and there's just
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of sweating stuff if you have sweating problems.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I personally wrote a lot of sweating things too, didn't you. No. Oh,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Ironically there's a push about Yeah, I remember that stuff.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: But just type sweating s W E A T I
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  Speaker 2: n G in the search bar at how stuff works
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  Speaker 2: dot com. That'll bring up some cool stuff, I said,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: search bar, which means it's time for listener mail.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Josh, I'm gonna call this one on guard.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's a fine one.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Through college, I was really active in fencing,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: the sport generated by the ancient duels and honor code.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You guys mentioned. One interesting symptom from engaging in fencing
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: through though, was an ultra critical eye on sword play
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: shown in films. Oh all bet Movies like Star Wars, Corse,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean, and Highlander are examples of what
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: is called quote show fencing, the art of making the largest,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: flashiest attacks without ever threatening either actor. Show fencing is
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes slanged as Flynning, after Errol.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Flynn or Mark Hammeling.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Hammeling he says that Errol Flynn pioneered this technique.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a swashbuckler.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: He was, it still is.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think, well he's dead.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: He lives on though as a swashbuckler.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: If you or your listeners want to see excellent representations
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of Hollywood showing true fencing, I have two recommendations. First
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: is the black and white version of The Three Musketeers.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's from nineteen forty eight.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I can guess the other one riding in cars with boys,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: How to Lose a Guy in ten Days.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: The rapier duel on the staircase at the tail end
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: of the film is still admired to some of the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: best fencing on film nice to this day. The other
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: film I'd recommend, and we got a few people tell
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: us about this one is Ridley Scott's directorial premiere nineteen
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: seventy Seven's The Duellists, based on the true story of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: two Napoleon Area Area Napoleon era French officers with a
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: feud lasting for decades. The film accurately shows multiple types
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: of duels and weapons, including foil cavalry, saber pistols, just
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: an interview.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Foils, the really thin, long thin fencing sword. Yeah, I'm
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: going to go out on a limb and say that
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: without looking it up.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Well, we got some corrections coming too. Really, the film
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: is simply a must for those who want to see
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: great fencing inaccurate dueling. And that is from Josh.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: That's from me. Yeah, thanks me, Thanks Josh. And while
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: we're on this, that jog my memory. The dueling reminded
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: me of a movie that we well, not just a movie, wow,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I'm a hic. A movie and a book that we
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: left out of the Revenge podcast, the Count of Monte Cristo.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Oh sure, I don't know how we did that, because
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that is like the quintessential Revenge plots.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: And also I want to say in the beer episode,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I wrongly attributed the Superhuman Happiness to one of the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: guys in the band Superhuman Happiness, when really it was
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a super fan named Kurt Schlackter. So sorry, Kirk.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Well instance we're on that. You also called New Belgium
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: new Amsterdam.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a big one. I'm really sorry. Guys,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: they've even sent us beer. Now I know New Belgium
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: makers of fine Fat tire sixteen sixty four. Now that's Cronenberg.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Let's just stop right here, sorry, guys.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And you do have to pay all kinds of money
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: for covering songs too, by the way, that was completely wrong.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that was a huge sidebar in the Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: like they would spell it out like, no, you don't
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: have to spend money to that's crazy.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: No, that's wrong.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well good, so I feel clean, like we just
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: purged ourselves of all the correction.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And not only that, I didn't realize this, but
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: clubs that have like cover bands that play there actually
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: pay like yearly licensing fees just speak so they can
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: have like the Kiss tribute band play.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Gotcha?
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Oh man, So I don't think the band plays. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: think it's up to the club to take ownership of that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: People will pay anything to have the Kiss tribute band play,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: especially if it's Strutter.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all them.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So let's see. If you're related to a member of
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the band's Strutter or Kiss or you have a correction
• 46:21
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• 46:23
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