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Tony Baker On Finding The Blessings In Tragedy, Hip-Hop Influences, T.I.'s Stage Etiquette + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wait that answer in the morning Breakfast Club Yep, Charlomagne
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Speaker 1: and guard here Angelie. Ye, we are the world wants
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Speaker 1: dangerous want to show the Breakfast Club Envia is off today,
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Speaker 1: but we got a special guest man very requested guests,
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Speaker 1: highly requested guest. Really yes, Tommy Bakers. Wow, for the
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Speaker 1: first time this debut. I love y'all, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I want to interview y'all, like I want to ask
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Speaker 1: y'all the questions. So till man, how y'all getting reading you? Yes,
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Speaker 1: and listen out of roderikers. I know she absolutely loves you.
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Speaker 1: She always talks about you. So she hit me too.
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Speaker 1: She was like, are you gonna have Tony Baker on
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Speaker 1: sh I'm like it's already taken care of. Yes, that
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Speaker 1: that is my dog right there. Now. I had everybody
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Speaker 1: hitting me, from Sean King to the comedians like Isaiah Kelly.
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Speaker 1: I'm like anybody on Instagram yeah, because it was like, man,
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Speaker 1: I want to be on the Breakfast Club. I always
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Speaker 1: want to be on. I was like, I'm doing Carolines
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Speaker 1: this weekend. Let me just you know, put it out
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Speaker 1: there in the universe. You didn't need our help for that, though. Man, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it sold out. It was like New York pooled up
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Speaker 1: because New York always in the comments section when you're
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Speaker 1: coming to New York, Sin when you could were just
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Speaker 1: born Sin when you coming, I was like, all right,
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Speaker 1: if I come out there, buy the tickets early. And
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Speaker 1: they did. Now I saw, I saw a bit you
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Speaker 1: did when you returned the stage. Man, I know, condolences
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Speaker 1: on your son, you know, but I was very intrigued
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Speaker 1: because I was like, how does a comedian approach something right?
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Speaker 1: You know, like this? So I have even holding up.
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Speaker 1: First of all, this has been first like the scaredest
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Speaker 1: I've ever been comedically, like normally, like I'm the type
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Speaker 1: of comedian that I talked about whatever's going on in
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Speaker 1: my life. Now I talk about like on the surface
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Speaker 1: stuff like you know, observations and stuff like that, but
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Speaker 1: then you know, I always include what I'm going through
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Speaker 1: in my life. And so with that, it was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, comedy. My son passed August third in the
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Speaker 1: car accident for those who don't know, and then uh,
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Speaker 1: I went on the road August twenty fifth to Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, and I needed to come down.
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Speaker 1: I needed to you know, keep working and making people
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Speaker 1: laugh as part of mine, you know, therapy, and so
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Speaker 1: I was like, uh, but I'm scared to do it
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Speaker 1: because people saw me lose my son in real time,
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Speaker 1: so it's not like you know, you just see me
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Speaker 1: and like, man, he lost his son, but we didn't
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Speaker 1: know him then, so we can kind of detach from
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Speaker 1: that reality. So now I'm scared to bring that material
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Speaker 1: out because the crowd is hurting too, so they mourning
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Speaker 1: with me. So it was just like, man, so I
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Speaker 1: finally did it Gonna Keep Your Distance, which is a
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Speaker 1: virtual comedy show that keV on stage does, and it
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Speaker 1: went and it went well. I told the audience, look, man,
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Speaker 1: I need to talk about this, so y'all need to
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Speaker 1: open up. And then they received it. You said yeah
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Speaker 1: about the cremation, like you know, how do I know?
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Speaker 1: I want to know what? I need to check this
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Speaker 1: this dust right? And I thought it was funnier, But
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Speaker 1: I was like, am I supposed to laugh? Yes, that's
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Speaker 1: the weird part, But there's comedy everywhere. You just got
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Speaker 1: to be able to find the sweet spot, I guess,
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Speaker 1: to be able to make it relative and like funny
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Speaker 1: Marlin Wayne said when he was up here, he was like,
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Speaker 1: when you're a comedian, even a funeral, you can find
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Speaker 1: some type of and he said that exact same thing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, because I'm sitting there and
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Speaker 1: I'm laughing, you know, I was able to laugh, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, the day he passed, I'm laughing, you know, crying,
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Speaker 1: you know, I still cry daily, but it's like I
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Speaker 1: laugh at stuff every day too, So it's like I
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Speaker 1: was like, man, I've never thought, you know, you never
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Speaker 1: you never know how you're gonna react yourself until it happens. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm because I'm from the country and I'm
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Speaker 1: from so we laugh at everything. But I feel like
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Speaker 1: sometimes with comedians it's like an obligation to be funny.
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Speaker 1: But what if I don't feel like being funny right now? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: And there's there's those moments where it was just like,
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Speaker 1: I guess it was just in me and I found
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Speaker 1: that out going through that. I was just like, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm still cracking shows. Yeah, I can't believe it. Like
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Speaker 1: at the funeral, I'm doing a set, you know, I
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Speaker 1: did fifteen minutes at the funeral, just like, yeah, man, crying,
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Speaker 1: and then I would be like, yeah, he was always late.
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Speaker 1: He was late to the afterlife too. Like God was like, man, yo,
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Speaker 1: I called you twenty minutes ago. What took you so long?
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Speaker 1: I had to I had to put lotion on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you don't. You don't get ashy here. You never know.
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Speaker 1: You gotta look good. And I thought you said that
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Speaker 1: the crowd gets tight, right, So when crowds get uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: As a comedian, you're used to I guess loosening them up, right, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so going up there, like I'll cut the crowd out.
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of comedian I am, like, if the comedian,
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Speaker 1: if the if the crowd is too stiff, I'll cut
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Speaker 1: them out, like you know if because like there's certain
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Speaker 1: rooms where they'd be like prove it to us, and
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Speaker 1: they just sit there arms folded. And then I said,
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Speaker 1: somebody bring her boyfriend to a comedy show and he
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Speaker 1: was sitting there like yeah the whole time, right in
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Speaker 1: the front too. You can't be in the front with
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Speaker 1: that energy. Yeah you should be. If you're gonna be
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Speaker 1: in the front, we you need the energy, fake it.
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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna be arms folded McGhee sitting the back,
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Speaker 1: sit your ass in the back with that energy, you'd
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Speaker 1: be like, look out man. But with with this type
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Speaker 1: of topic. And it's not like I was forcing myself
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Speaker 1: to find the material because some comedians do too much
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Speaker 1: and they feel like I have to make everything funny
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Speaker 1: out of everything. For me, it was just organic. It
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Speaker 1: was just like, you know, I'd be looking at my
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Speaker 1: son's earn. It's right in the living room. So I'm
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Speaker 1: sitting there, I'm like, how do I know that's him
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Speaker 1: in there? They could have handed me any type of
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Speaker 1: your son. That's true though, So I was like, Yo,
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Speaker 1: can I take this on more to make sure this
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Speaker 1: is my son in there? You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: The DNA. You know what's so crazy about that? When
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Speaker 1: I heard you said, I think I would have to
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Speaker 1: watch I know, as school as it sounds, only because
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Speaker 1: maybe harvest and organs and stuff, right, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I want to make sure y'all, oh
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Speaker 1: you want to watch the Yeah, make sure everything is gone.
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Speaker 1: Definitely throw me in the oven three seventy five. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be slow rosed. Put some seasons enough. No,
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Speaker 1: I don't think, but that's y'all. Wanted to land like
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Speaker 1: a week to be like slow rosman if they can,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So y'all want to be cremated?
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Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it, man, Yeah, I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: I don't know who. Why do you want to be cremated?
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Speaker 1: Because we're running out of real estate? That is true,
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Speaker 1: So you don't want to It's over crowd It's like
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Speaker 1: especially in New York. We drove through Queens. It's all cemetery.
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Speaker 1: That's very thoughtful of you. So just because of overcrowding, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because you know, the old bodies, the people that died
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Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty nine. You got to get out of there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: ain't nobody coming to visit? You know more, you died
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Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty nine, your family moved. But that is too.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's more inexpensive too, like as far as
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Speaker 1: having to buy apply to land and having to get
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Speaker 1: a casket because caskets are expensive too. Yeah, and you
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Speaker 1: did and what you what you care saying? Just throw
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Speaker 1: me in there? Yeah, because you have to have on
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Speaker 1: like something nice. Yeah, you know that's a wasted a
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Speaker 1: good outfit. Wasted a good outfit. You're wasting a good suit,
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Speaker 1: you know. And then you're sitting there in one location, like, well,
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Speaker 1: if you don't like the location, no more. Your family
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Speaker 1: even moved to different states. I'm like, scattered me around,
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Speaker 1: put me in a put me in a garden of
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Speaker 1: a nice house, and just sprinkle me right there. He
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Speaker 1: would look this out, sprinkle me the owner, come out.
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Speaker 1: What you're doing out there? You just run off? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I don't think about those movies. But they're like,
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Speaker 1: don't bury me. I'm not dead, oh yeah, buried alive. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so if like you were still alive, yeah, but they
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Speaker 1: already did your autopsy. You could have woke up then.
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Speaker 1: But y'all been starting thinking about this man's coming. I
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Speaker 1: know we were talking about more. Are you supposed to
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Speaker 1: the funeral? Where he was at the club? Yeah? He
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Speaker 1: was standing on stage and I'm like, yo, that's how
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Speaker 1: I want my funeral. We were talking about this the
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Speaker 1: other day. I want to party, wanted to have you
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Speaker 1: want us to have your ashes in the club. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I want keep my body for the for the actual
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Speaker 1: game night. I want a game night. Up. I don't
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Speaker 1: want the club because I'm not the club. Cool. I
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Speaker 1: feel like your funeral should be how you live your life.
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Speaker 1: A lot of us ain't really church like that. No
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Speaker 1: more so I feel like having me at the church
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be reflective of how I was living my life.
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Speaker 1: So a game night is me okay, okay, so prop
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Speaker 1: me up at the table, who do cards in my
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Speaker 1: hand and you can pay your respects? You put that
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Speaker 1: reverse down, come back to his tone reverse. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's a good funeral right there. That's how I was living.
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Speaker 1: Or on stage with a mic. Okay, whatever you was into,
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Speaker 1: like for y'all, y'all be propped up in the radio.
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Speaker 1: You got Sharltman in the corner. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: stir in the pot. So put like a pot here
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Speaker 1: and stirring it. Angel did with the info on the
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Speaker 1: guest having questions doing you just be over here and
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Speaker 1: not really on who the guess is and like give
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Speaker 1: me your top five s your top five of all time?
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Speaker 1: And so, you know, because that's how we was living,
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Speaker 1: you know, well you you'd be writing books and stuff. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So but that that rapper on stage, I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 1: that's perfect. Yeah, and that's what he wanted. In the
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Speaker 1: family expected that I loved it. Yeah, they were offended
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Speaker 1: that people had issues with it and were like making
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Speaker 1: it a meme and viral the way that they did.
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Speaker 1: They would like just respect the fact, but he wanted.
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Speaker 1: I applauded it, like you know, I did a video
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Speaker 1: on and I was like, this is this is what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. This should be because the church is fake.
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Speaker 1: You ain't been the church in ten years, exactly. You
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Speaker 1: don't pay time, you know. She was just like, why
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Speaker 1: are you in there in the final and then in God,
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Speaker 1: this is God's favorite child right here. No matter what,
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Speaker 1: she didn't he killed two people. He didn't tone going
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Speaker 1: to church online counsel though, rights I feel because I
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Speaker 1: feel like my relationship with God is personal, like I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't need the church and acquired and the
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Speaker 1: pastors that I don't really trust. I don't really trust
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Speaker 1: the Bible because there's too many hands involved in the
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Speaker 1: creation of the written texts, you know, King once King
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Speaker 1: James put his name on them, Like don't you know
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Speaker 1: then take that out. You can't trust it. So I
10:32
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'll just deal with God one on
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Speaker 1: one because at the end of the day, it's just
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Speaker 1: gonna be you, you know. Um. I was just in
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Speaker 1: a wedding, And I was wondering do men hand their
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Speaker 1: wedding out in their head from when they're younger, Like,
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Speaker 1: do y'all be thinking, like when I get married, this
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Speaker 1: is how I wanted to be. I want a big wedding.
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Speaker 1: I want a small wedding destination. Do y'all think about
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Speaker 1: things like that? I didn't, Like, we think about marriage,
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Speaker 1: but we don't think about the wedding. We just be like, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: I just want to find me a good one. You know,
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Speaker 1: raise a family. We think about the marriage itself in
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Speaker 1: the family, but the wedding day, I forget it. Like,
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Speaker 1: give you it's a waste of money in my opinion, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Like like, if you're rich and you're balling, sure, it's
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Speaker 1: just a little nice it's just a little weekend whatever.
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Speaker 1: But when you gotta save up and like y'all trying
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Speaker 1: to get your your earnings together, and we gotta save
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Speaker 1: up for the wedding. Yeah, you can spend eighty thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars on a wedding. Your salary is sixty five thousand
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Speaker 1: a year each, Maybe that's a good chunk. And what
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Speaker 1: happened to Daddy's spaying for the wedding. Remember the time,
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Speaker 1: Remember that my father lost putting some money. Did you
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Speaker 1: put in a nice, nice chunk of change? Y'all had
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Speaker 1: a big wedding. Oh it was cool. Yeah, that was cool.
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Speaker 1: How much was I don't remember. I don't remember the financially,
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Speaker 1: but you remember not really don't? Did you make enough
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Speaker 1: money back from what you spent? Because you know, that's
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Speaker 1: part of what people hope for it too when they
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Speaker 1: get married, that the people who come to the wedding
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Speaker 1: pay enough for it so that it pays for the wedding. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. How much do you? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: how much do you get? That's the door deal. You're
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Speaker 1: coming to my wed and you're gonna be twenty dollars.
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Speaker 1: You know, got to make the money back. Like if
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Speaker 1: you go to a wedding, how much do you give?
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Speaker 1: I ain't know. I ain't never gave it a win.
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Speaker 1: You never been to a wedding. I've been in weddings.
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Speaker 1: I've been in like several, but like going to a
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Speaker 1: wedding like, uh, okay, to Carl, y'all know, to Carl,
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Speaker 1: she's a comedian, she just got married. I gave her
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Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. That's nice. Yeah, just on the because
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Speaker 1: I couldn't make the win. He's a gift, you know,
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Speaker 1: So that's great when people don't come and yeah, because
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Speaker 1: I felt bad, Yeah, because they was like they were
12:41
Speaker 1: hitting me up because it was like, yo, we got
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Speaker 1: vegan options for y'all, and I was like, man, I
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna make your wedding. So I felt bad because
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Speaker 1: I knew that was a lot of planning, right, like,
12:51
Speaker 1: you know, because and I know the bride stresses over well,
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Speaker 1: the worst is if you say you're going and then
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Speaker 1: you don't show up. That's the worst thing to do.
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Speaker 1: That's what you can so that so that's why I
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Speaker 1: came through with the thousand gift, the guilt gift. Yeah.
13:09
Speaker 1: You want Last Comics Standing too, right, a couple of seasons.
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Speaker 1: I was on there for two seasons. But what made
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Speaker 1: you do that? Because I've always heard your name? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so what was it? You know? I uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: as as comedians. I started doing stand up in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and you know, you get on Last
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Speaker 1: Comics Standing, you think your life gonna change. Oh, this
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Speaker 1: is NBC, this is it, this is the moment. And
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Speaker 1: then I did it that first season, Um, I didn't
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Speaker 1: advance and I was like, oh, well, I guess that's
13:36
Speaker 1: I guessaid that. And then they brought me back because
13:39
Speaker 1: you know, I think they felt like I got robbed
13:42
Speaker 1: on that first season because I had a really good
13:44
Speaker 1: set and it was just like but nah, And I
13:46
Speaker 1: was like man, and I was kind of crushed. That
13:48
Speaker 1: was like man, because I knew I delivered. But then
13:51
Speaker 1: they brought me back and I was like, man, maybe
13:52
Speaker 1: my life would change now, and then it didn't. It
13:55
Speaker 1: sounds like, all right, what did you expect to happen?
13:58
Speaker 1: Because like you know, on NBC, it's on NBC, huge platform,
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Speaker 1: millions of people seeing you. So from there you catapult
14:06
Speaker 1: that into you know, headlining across the country. So it's like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a huge step. But when you don't
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Speaker 1: advance and then it's just like, you know, you don't
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Speaker 1: get all that airtime and the and the NBC execs
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Speaker 1: is pushing you in different projects, it's like, all right,
14:22
Speaker 1: I don't think people can them. I think it's like
14:23
Speaker 1: you gotta it's hard, right, Like, because you can be
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Speaker 1: on network television and nobody you don't care, Like I know,
14:29
Speaker 1: you had a small role on Car Michael Show. Yeah,
14:31
Speaker 1: and I saw Gride you know, on Saturday Live this
14:33
Speaker 1: past weekending. He was like, Yom, I might be the
14:35
Speaker 1: least famous host to ever host this show. And this
14:38
Speaker 1: is a man who had a sitcom on NBC for
14:40
Speaker 1: three seasons. HBO Special has been in big movies and everything. Right,
14:44
Speaker 1: I don't think people I don't know if people care
14:46
Speaker 1: about that. The dynamic has changed because you really don't
14:50
Speaker 1: need Uh, there's people on they've been on the show
14:53
Speaker 1: for eight seasons. You go to the social media, maybe
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Speaker 1: they got fifty k followers or whatever, and people are
14:59
Speaker 1: just under the radar. Like if you're black on like
15:02
Speaker 1: a CBS sitcom, you're on there for eight nine seasons,
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Speaker 1: but it seems like you're not even popping on social media.
15:10
Speaker 1: But you know, once the black community gets you, they
15:12
Speaker 1: can make you look like a superstar R and so.
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Speaker 1: But you're getting you getting good money, You're getting that
15:18
Speaker 1: CBS money. But in terms of like celebrity, it's just
15:21
Speaker 1: your Boddy can't right, And so for us, you know
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Speaker 1: building now, you know, I just built a social media
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Speaker 1: platform to where you know, I could I could bring
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Speaker 1: people to comedy clubs now. So you know, I've superseded
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Speaker 1: the needs for NBC. Brandon. I was still love for sitcom,
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Speaker 1: but you know, I put it into people's hand now
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Speaker 1: to where I don't need Hollywood to eat, and so
15:46
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful place to be in. So it's like
15:49
Speaker 1: like the village was like yo, breakfast club. Yeah, definitely.
15:52
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, why don't you just ask it? I
15:55
Speaker 1: didn't think he'll knew me? Yeah, of course none, y'all
15:57
Speaker 1: you just follow me? Well, yeah, follow me. Thus I
16:01
Speaker 1: followed you back, but you didn't follow me either. Well
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Speaker 1: you know I was watching, No you don't, I'll be
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Speaker 1: seeing your videos. I don't know. But because it was
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Speaker 1: like because me and I saw it, I couldn't. That's
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Speaker 1: the only reason I can see that. You just see.
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Speaker 1: I just sent that the other day. Man. But that's
16:19
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, don't I don't check my DMS. I
16:21
Speaker 1: can only seer from people who I follow. Let me see.
16:22
Speaker 1: I'm a look. So look, you guys just talked about
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Speaker 1: jer Carmichael. Did you watch his special? Yes? I loved it. Yeah,
16:29
Speaker 1: like I didn't. I didn't laugh a lot, but I
16:32
Speaker 1: loved it. And it was like a community gathering where
16:37
Speaker 1: he's interacting with the end, it felt like it felt
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Speaker 1: like he wasn't forcing the jokes, he wasn't forcing the comedy.
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Speaker 1: It was like you can laugh or you cannot. When
16:46
Speaker 1: he when he came out, I feel like the laughter
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Speaker 1: reveed up after that. So there was some good, good
16:53
Speaker 1: things in there, but it felt very personal, felt like
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Speaker 1: a conversation. And you know, there was a moment in
16:59
Speaker 1: there that hit me when he said his mom was silent.
17:03
Speaker 1: So that hit me personally because I feel like when
17:05
Speaker 1: I lost my son, my dad, and my oldest brother,
17:08
Speaker 1: they just fell back and I'm just like yo. And
17:11
Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, yo, y'all, don't have
17:13
Speaker 1: to give me space here like I need y' all around.
17:15
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, we hear you, but we're gonna
17:18
Speaker 1: get your space anyway. You know why. Man, that's so
17:21
Speaker 1: it's so difficult when you have a loved one and
17:22
Speaker 1: they lose somebody really close to them because you don't
17:25
Speaker 1: know how to show up for them. Yeah you know
17:26
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You let them know I'm here for
17:28
Speaker 1: you if you need me. Yeah, but I don't know
17:30
Speaker 1: how to show up for you. It's weird man, that
17:32
Speaker 1: it's strange and and that's and that's why I told him.
17:35
Speaker 1: I was like, you don't have to when people are grieving.
17:38
Speaker 1: I think we overthink it a lot and we'd be like, man,
17:40
Speaker 1: I gotta come in, then I gotta I gotta hit
17:43
Speaker 1: him on some hard hidden I gotta come in and say,
17:45
Speaker 1: you know, God puts things in place, you don't have
17:50
Speaker 1: to do all that could be. Like for me, I
17:53
Speaker 1: hate talking on the phone, like notoriously, don't call me,
17:58
Speaker 1: and so all I need is a tech like thinking
18:01
Speaker 1: that you love you, bro. There's my my boy, Demetrius.
18:04
Speaker 1: He texts me every single day, love you, bro, And
18:07
Speaker 1: that's all I need. Why do you hate talking on
18:08
Speaker 1: the phone. I hate talking on because you got to
18:14
Speaker 1: You got to show up first of all on the
18:17
Speaker 1: phone on the phone, you got to be there. You
18:18
Speaker 1: got to have an energy, you gotta have the back
18:20
Speaker 1: and forth. A lot of people, a lot of people
18:23
Speaker 1: just want to call you and talk to you and
18:27
Speaker 1: event and you just sitting there taking it. And I
18:29
Speaker 1: wasn't ready to take it. So now I'm like, hit, yeah,
18:32
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's crazy. Now I'm that's crazy to death.
18:36
Speaker 1: And then it's like you gotta be on then when
18:40
Speaker 1: you get quiet, like, man, you're good, Why are you quiet?
18:43
Speaker 1: This is all I got, so all of that, I
18:46
Speaker 1: gotta prep for it. So it's like, man, what you want?
18:49
Speaker 1: So you seem like you would be your phone talking
18:51
Speaker 1: if I'm watching like your podcast and stuff that it
18:54
Speaker 1: feels like you would be like a good phone conversation
18:56
Speaker 1: of this, right. I mean I can, I can, I
18:59
Speaker 1: can hang in there. I can hold on my own.
19:01
Speaker 1: But if I don't feel like talking, I'll just be
19:03
Speaker 1: like that's crazy, Angela, Yeah, it's crazy. Sometimes you just
19:07
Speaker 1: gotta hung in there, you know what I'm saying. Take
19:09
Speaker 1: it one day at a time. People take advantage of it.
19:12
Speaker 1: You got people that take advantage of that, Like they
19:14
Speaker 1: know what time to call you, Like, let me call
19:16
Speaker 1: him like around nine thirty am when he just getting up.
19:19
Speaker 1: This is what I know people do. They'll text me
19:22
Speaker 1: and then I'll text back and they'll call me right
19:24
Speaker 1: after that because so they know you have your phone exactly,
19:28
Speaker 1: they know you can answer right now, let's still watch
19:30
Speaker 1: it die. I will watch that phone call dial in
19:34
Speaker 1: my hand. I'd be like, or if you post something
19:36
Speaker 1: on social media and then they call you right after.
19:38
Speaker 1: They're like, I know he's on his phone. He just
19:41
Speaker 1: posted this, and I see it too. I'm like, I
19:42
Speaker 1: just posted. Now they call me. I will watch that
19:45
Speaker 1: phone called dial. Do you ever not post because you
19:48
Speaker 1: don't want anybody to call you? Yes, I've done that.
19:52
Speaker 1: So you don't like the phone either. I talk on
19:54
Speaker 1: the phone. You know, we're not talking the phone for
19:56
Speaker 1: real when I'm in the car mostly. Oh yeah, Like
19:58
Speaker 1: if I'm driving and I got the Bluetooth, it's easier
20:01
Speaker 1: for me. Like while I'm just driving because I gotta
20:03
Speaker 1: be here anyway, this time, I could really be doing
20:06
Speaker 1: at the same time. You can multitask, especially when you
20:09
Speaker 1: got the good when you're talking to them like it's
20:11
Speaker 1: like they're in the ceiling of the car. You're just like, yeah,
20:14
Speaker 1: I'm told it right. And sometimes you gotta, you know,
20:17
Speaker 1: take it one day at a time. I can do
20:19
Speaker 1: it then. But if I'm at home, man texts now
20:23
Speaker 1: you know what I was gonna say. Back to Gerald Carmichael,
20:25
Speaker 1: he had these silences that were powerful too. And sometimes
20:29
Speaker 1: when people are quiet, like you were saying on the phone,
20:31
Speaker 1: when they're like you're good. Yeah, But that can be
20:33
Speaker 1: a powerful moment. How is it for you on stage
20:35
Speaker 1: when it's kind of like quiet, I don't like it, right.
20:39
Speaker 1: I do not like silence on stage, unless unless it's
20:42
Speaker 1: that type of night where I'm just really just like
20:44
Speaker 1: sitting on stage and like I know the crowd. It
20:48
Speaker 1: actually depends if it's my fans to where they know me,
20:52
Speaker 1: then I'm more comfortable with like a quiet pause and
20:55
Speaker 1: they know I'm thinking about some things. But if it's
20:57
Speaker 1: like I'm featuring for somebody, I'm just doing a show
21:00
Speaker 1: where I got to I got to keep it going
21:02
Speaker 1: like you know, boom boom, boom boom. Once it gets quiet,
21:05
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh snap, I gotta I can take a
21:08
Speaker 1: quick break if I know what's going well, but I
21:11
Speaker 1: gotta go out there and hit you back to back
21:13
Speaker 1: to where I don't want you to have time to
21:14
Speaker 1: get your feet together, like I want you to be like,
21:17
Speaker 1: oh man, just just just give me a moment, Nona.
21:20
Speaker 1: I want to kill you. My goal is to make
21:23
Speaker 1: somebody die laughing. And you know, I don't think I
21:25
Speaker 1: can get there, but if I can, if I can
21:27
Speaker 1: make you spit your drink out choke or just like
21:31
Speaker 1: nah man, please or the tears are running. I'm like, yeah,
21:33
Speaker 1: stand up getting easy or harder because a lot of
21:35
Speaker 1: my stand up friends feel like it's getting harder. I
21:38
Speaker 1: don't think it's getting harder. You mean in terms of
21:40
Speaker 1: how people react to it. Yeah, because it was like
21:42
Speaker 1: you know, with the with the live podcast nowadays and
21:46
Speaker 1: it was like your people just like they don't feel
21:48
Speaker 1: like the stand up. I guess Watcher's viewers of people
21:51
Speaker 1: who come to the show are actual stand up kind
21:53
Speaker 1: of sourds anymore. Oh yeah, there's that because we like
21:57
Speaker 1: listening to you on the you know, on the podcast,
22:00
Speaker 1: come in and they don't really know the art of
22:02
Speaker 1: stand up, so they don't really they're not always the
22:05
Speaker 1: best audiences. They're just excited, but they're not really getting
22:09
Speaker 1: the nuances of the jokes or anything like that. And
22:12
Speaker 1: so I can see that. And plus, you know, people
22:14
Speaker 1: are more sensitive now and like you know, um, you
22:18
Speaker 1: got everybody egg shelling it up. So it's like, so
22:22
Speaker 1: it's all these things in place. But I feel like
22:24
Speaker 1: stand up comedy is hot though, like you know, it's popping,
22:28
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's a good thing. And then people,
22:31
Speaker 1: I just hate that people think it's so easy to do.
22:34
Speaker 1: Oh it's not. Yeah, people think they can just go
22:37
Speaker 1: up there and be like, Man, I could do that. No,
22:38
Speaker 1: it's it's probably one of the most difficult things to
22:41
Speaker 1: do on a stage. Yeah, you can perform a song,
22:44
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of podcast get up there
22:46
Speaker 1: and go one on one with that crowd, and it's scary, man,
22:50
Speaker 1: And I get nervous. I did The Seller last night
22:53
Speaker 1: for the first time. I was nervous the first time. Yeah. Everyone,
22:58
Speaker 1: man up. I've been droolings for The Seller, Like every
23:03
Speaker 1: time I come to New York, I'll be standing out there. Man,
23:07
Speaker 1: I want to get in there, you know what I'm saying.
23:09
Speaker 1: And so I finally did it last night. Um, well,
23:13
Speaker 1: I heard you have to get three references from regulars
23:16
Speaker 1: at the Seller. That's one. Uh Dominica, she spoke for me,
23:22
Speaker 1: Jackie fabulous, did Will suvants Um already, food Choir and
23:29
Speaker 1: U Charade small as It was like mad references coming in.
23:34
Speaker 1: But the lady was still like, look out and so
23:37
Speaker 1: will put me on this show last night? And so
23:40
Speaker 1: like man, So that was finally, you know, me stepping
23:43
Speaker 1: onto one of the stages that they have on the
23:45
Speaker 1: bucket list, because I want to come to New York
23:47
Speaker 1: and just be out here for like a month or
23:49
Speaker 1: two and just hit New York stages. Where do y'all
23:52
Speaker 1: live out here? You live in Brooklyn? Is it crazy expensive? Yes?
23:58
Speaker 1: Okay it is dumb, Yeah it is. It is. New
24:03
Speaker 1: York is one of the most expensive places. This is disgusting. Yeah,
24:06
Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. I have a two family brownstone, so
24:12
Speaker 1: but it's not big like it should be for what
24:13
Speaker 1: it costs. And the six million dollars, ain't it. No,
24:16
Speaker 1: it's not six million dollars. I'm not there. Three million? Yes,
24:25
Speaker 1: well yeah maybe yeah. Yeah. You live in New York too,
24:29
Speaker 1: Now I live in Jersey country. Boy, man, I need space,
24:32
Speaker 1: grass and trees. Yeah. I like seeing deer's run through
24:35
Speaker 1: the yard. Hell yeah really man, Yes, I got packed it.
24:39
Speaker 1: That got You know. My wife said that she sees
24:41
Speaker 1: more deers up here than we didn't we used to
24:43
Speaker 1: live in the Carolina. Really, that's what she says. I'm like,
24:45
Speaker 1: you know what, you might be right, it's only because
24:47
Speaker 1: how do they how do he move? Yeah? Downside of
24:49
Speaker 1: you might se him run across the road. You know
24:50
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you in the woods hunting. You
24:53
Speaker 1: see him, yo, man bold they be. I got hit
24:55
Speaker 1: by a deer driving to um Great Adventure Ones and
25:00
Speaker 1: there ran into the side of my car, like wow,
25:03
Speaker 1: into the passenger side. I don't know. I kept going.
25:07
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna I mean I did. It was dark.
25:09
Speaker 1: What really happened was my friend lost his keys on
25:11
Speaker 1: the ride, and so we had to drive back to
25:14
Speaker 1: get his spare keys, and then I had to drive
25:16
Speaker 1: him back to Great Adventures so he could get his
25:18
Speaker 1: car because he didn't have he had to leave his
25:20
Speaker 1: car there. So while we were driving back, he was asleep.
25:22
Speaker 1: It was dark out, and then boomed, something hit the
25:25
Speaker 1: car and it just ran out from the side and
25:27
Speaker 1: ran into the side of the car. Technically that's the
25:29
Speaker 1: dead faults. It's always the dead faults. They always put
25:32
Speaker 1: it on the dude. Then he did he because he
25:34
Speaker 1: t bone. Y'allah. So like if y'all went to court,
25:37
Speaker 1: you weren't there with the deer, and the deer is
25:39
Speaker 1: like y'all, Hannah, they hit me, and then they go
25:41
Speaker 1: to the evidence to be like, well, her car got
25:44
Speaker 1: then on the side you came in high. It's probably
25:47
Speaker 1: a male. I was scared that. I mean, I was
25:49
Speaker 1: happy that I didn't it didn't run out and I
25:52
Speaker 1: hit it head on. You know what I'm saying. That
25:54
Speaker 1: would have been worse. Oh yeah, because I wasn't gonna
25:56
Speaker 1: stop and try to help her anything, you know, So
25:59
Speaker 1: you hit it there on from the front. It wasn't
26:01
Speaker 1: a person. Now that it could have been. You don't
26:04
Speaker 1: know what it was. First of all, I've been big food.
26:06
Speaker 1: Somebody could have been getting changed by a killer. And
26:08
Speaker 1: then and then hit the side of the car. You
26:11
Speaker 1: kept going and definitely it was dark. The deer in
26:15
Speaker 1: your community with Timberlance don't feel like they got tams
26:19
Speaker 1: on their Mad Pigeon told the Jersey Yeah, they're just
26:23
Speaker 1: like Yo Sun that's in New Jersey. Though they don't
26:27
Speaker 1: you know, they don't do tims in Jersey. Hell yeah
26:30
Speaker 1: they do. I feel like like that. They don't talk
26:33
Speaker 1: like that. They talked like red Man, Reggie, you know
26:38
Speaker 1: what I mean. They talked like Lorn Hill. I don't
26:41
Speaker 1: know who else from Jersey, Queenland, tith A love music man,
26:45
Speaker 1: I could talk music. Your favorite Wu Tang is my
26:48
Speaker 1: uh actually my favorite group is the Roots, but Wu
26:53
Speaker 1: Tang changed my life pretty much. Really huh, just because
26:57
Speaker 1: like when Wu Tang hit, I'm forty four, so you know,
27:01
Speaker 1: I was born at seventy seven. So I remember when
27:05
Speaker 1: hip hop got kind of stacked because I've always leaned
27:08
Speaker 1: towards East Coast hip hop, and so it got kind
27:11
Speaker 1: of staggered around, like the early nineties. When the West
27:16
Speaker 1: Coast started dominating. It was like it was good, you know,
27:19
Speaker 1: doctor Dre what he was doing and stuff like that,
27:21
Speaker 1: but then they were relying too much on like the
27:24
Speaker 1: same kind of beats for a while, and I was
27:26
Speaker 1: just like, and I know people are gonna be mad
27:27
Speaker 1: at me in the comment sation ain't gonna first of all,
27:30
Speaker 1: whist Coast. But I just got kind of bored. And
27:33
Speaker 1: then when Wou Tang hit, I got my boys Carl Larone,
27:37
Speaker 1: he was driving and they were listening to the Mysterious
27:40
Speaker 1: Chess Box and ODBS versus on. I was like, Yo,
27:45
Speaker 1: who the hell is this. It's like, this is Wou
27:48
Speaker 1: Tang Clan, I said, who Wu Tang Clan. I was like, yo,
27:51
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard nothing like this. And I kept
27:53
Speaker 1: asking him. I'm like, yeah, what was we listening to
27:55
Speaker 1: really today? And so I was like, yo, Larone Man,
27:58
Speaker 1: let me let me borrow your Wou Tang CD, you know,
28:01
Speaker 1: and I was just hooked. You know, you had a
28:03
Speaker 1: tape was the new CD? It was actually it was
28:04
Speaker 1: a it was a tape. Was definitely on team what's
28:10
Speaker 1: going on? Because you know, I grew up on karate
28:12
Speaker 1: movies as we called them, and I was just like, Yo,
28:14
Speaker 1: this is every this is this is everything. And it
28:17
Speaker 1: was like I'm a comic bookhead. So it was like
28:19
Speaker 1: they had a team and everybody brought a different style.
28:23
Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, this is everything I've ever
28:25
Speaker 1: wanted and life. And so they brought me back to
28:29
Speaker 1: hip hop. And so after that, Illmatic came out and
28:31
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is everything. I stole the
28:34
Speaker 1: Roon's Illmatic CD because Shahm came out. I bought his
28:40
Speaker 1: tape and then I was like, hey, yo, Laron Man,
28:44
Speaker 1: I got the shas new One. Let me hold that Allomatic.
28:47
Speaker 1: And I never gave him the Illmatic back. That's a
28:49
Speaker 1: class wow. I never gave him to this day and face, Yes,
28:54
Speaker 1: that's my favorite rapper of all time. Ghost Faces all time,
28:57
Speaker 1: all time. Now listen, I love Ja Jay's Jays. Ghost
29:01
Speaker 1: has always been my personal favorite of all time, and
29:04
Speaker 1: over the years Jay has gotten that too, But so yeah,
29:08
Speaker 1: my two favorite rappers of all time ghost Face, I
29:10
Speaker 1: think about ghost faces. He'll name people. You don't know
29:12
Speaker 1: who he's talking about, but he'll tell the story and
29:14
Speaker 1: he'll name the people like yes, and you're like, I
29:16
Speaker 1: don't know who that is, but telling the story. He
29:19
Speaker 1: one of the best storytellers in rap. I think he
29:21
Speaker 1: has the best rap name. And I wish he would
29:24
Speaker 1: have stayed hidden, hidden, like if we never saw his face,
29:29
Speaker 1: but that would have been so dope. And I feel
29:32
Speaker 1: like he has the best discography in the Wolf. I
29:36
Speaker 1: think he does great songs for women too, because he's
29:38
Speaker 1: really good at doing those R and B like passionate songs.
29:41
Speaker 1: He's not he's not he's not too cool to be
29:43
Speaker 1: vulnerable over a woman on the track. He'd be crying
29:46
Speaker 1: and be like, man, I did this for you, this
29:48
Speaker 1: feelings is her. He's still rugged, Like I was like,
29:53
Speaker 1: first of all, man, no, not really. I mean it's
30:00
Speaker 1: something you know, because a couple of references to smacking up,
30:03
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, he didn't say he did it,
30:05
Speaker 1: but he wanted to. He wanted to. Yeah, yeah, we've
30:08
Speaker 1: been there. You know want hands and some of us have.
30:11
Speaker 1: I should have smacked you, but the guard said ship
30:15
Speaker 1: dumb guard handled that in a lot. Yeah, he didn't
30:18
Speaker 1: do it ghost phase to me. And you know what,
30:22
Speaker 1: early on, when I first listened to Woo, I didn't
30:24
Speaker 1: think he would end up being my favorite because you know,
30:26
Speaker 1: method Man stood out because he had his own track
30:29
Speaker 1: and Ray Kwon was all over that first one. So
30:32
Speaker 1: you know they but inspected Deck to me is the
30:35
Speaker 1: most underrated. Yeah, because he was every time he would
30:39
Speaker 1: kick off a track, I'll be like, Yo, this dudematically Socrates, philosophies,
30:45
Speaker 1: prophecies can't define. I'll be dropping these mockeries lyrically perform
30:49
Speaker 1: ones Man with the lottery see special. Yeah, very and
30:54
Speaker 1: So who's your favorite rapper of all time, all time?
30:57
Speaker 1: Right here, right now? Oh? But you know it changes
31:00
Speaker 1: for me all the time. But if I had to
31:02
Speaker 1: say I have favorite albums, I don't know that I
31:06
Speaker 1: have favorite rappers like I have albums that I love.
31:08
Speaker 1: Was your favorite album? Favorite hip hop album? You gotta
31:12
Speaker 1: take one on the space shuttle you are to here?
31:15
Speaker 1: I think you know I'm a big Bootang fan too.
31:17
Speaker 1: That was my first job. I hadn't turned there. And
31:19
Speaker 1: then my first job out of college is working with Wootang. Yeah.
31:24
Speaker 1: So the first Booting album, Liquid Sores was a classic
31:27
Speaker 1: ting you know, only built for Cuban links. They are,
31:31
Speaker 1: you know, all of those classic albums. Tamatic was big
31:35
Speaker 1: for me, I actually growing up in Brooklyn. UM. I
31:38
Speaker 1: also really liked Black Moon. Oh yeah, man, I got
31:41
Speaker 1: your open remix that first, the Shining album, Oh my god,
31:49
Speaker 1: Slter crazy. But you don't be hading from this question.
31:53
Speaker 1: And now that's what I'm trying to think about all
31:55
Speaker 1: the albums, and of course the Miseducation of Lauren Hill.
31:59
Speaker 1: That was a huge album for me. Like that, I
32:01
Speaker 1: felt like there's nothing you skip on that. That was
32:03
Speaker 1: a moment in time that was special. Oh yeah. When
32:05
Speaker 1: that album dropped, it was like I just went to
32:07
Speaker 1: New Mexico State bought that album opening day and the
32:12
Speaker 1: whole campus was just we was listening to that every day.
32:17
Speaker 1: It was just like Yo, this Lauren Hill album were
32:19
Speaker 1: just like I listened to X Factor every day. Man,
32:24
Speaker 1: I hate that, you know, I don't. I don't hate
32:26
Speaker 1: that song. I love that song. The reason I hate
32:27
Speaker 1: that song is because when my mom was going through
32:30
Speaker 1: her divorce for my popsy, she used to play that
32:33
Speaker 1: song every day. And at the time I didn't know.
32:36
Speaker 1: I just was like, oh, Mom, Cools listening to Lauren Hill.
32:39
Speaker 1: But I got old I realized you listen to that
32:41
Speaker 1: song over and over because you're going through it. And
32:45
Speaker 1: that was a period when soundtracks were really important to remember,
32:48
Speaker 1: when soundtracks were like your favorite album above the Room, Yeah,
32:52
Speaker 1: New Jersey Drive and a dope sound Love Jones soundtrack. Oh,
32:56
Speaker 1: come on to this day. I looked at that day
32:59
Speaker 1: when you went to a woman fire Wait and they
33:02
Speaker 1: say it is a phenomenal sing album. Was just me,
33:09
Speaker 1: me and you boys in the hood. Yeah, that sound
33:14
Speaker 1: before you go to And I want to ask you
33:16
Speaker 1: this guy, I don't want to go back to you
33:17
Speaker 1: go back to it, man, but I know, uh crap
33:20
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. A street racer killed him. Yeah so,
33:23
Speaker 1: uh so they were racing on Glen Oaks and Burbank, California.
33:27
Speaker 1: We lived in Burbank and um so he had just
33:31
Speaker 1: left my apartment and then they were going to this
33:35
Speaker 1: little this little peak where you can just go and
33:37
Speaker 1: look out over the city or whatever. So they were
33:39
Speaker 1: they were making a turn. Uh, and so the cars
33:44
Speaker 1: were racing. It was two cars racing, might have been three,
33:47
Speaker 1: and they just they t boned them and so they
33:50
Speaker 1: uh it was three of them that passed away, you know,
33:52
Speaker 1: his best friend, Jayden and Natalie, So they died on impact.
33:56
Speaker 1: Thank god. That's that's that really helped me too through
33:59
Speaker 1: this loss. Was because you know, I looked for the
34:02
Speaker 1: blessings within the tragedy. It was like, Yo, we could
34:05
Speaker 1: have been in a situation where you know, he might
34:08
Speaker 1: have been vegetative and we had to come to the
34:10
Speaker 1: decision to pull the plug. We didn't have to go
34:12
Speaker 1: through that, you know, or you know, just any type
34:15
Speaker 1: of yeah, like suffering like that. They said he died instantly,
34:20
Speaker 1: so it was no, you know, he never knew what
34:22
Speaker 1: hit him. I was like, oh, thank god. And so
34:24
Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't a murder, like they weren't murdered.
34:27
Speaker 1: So that helps me with anger issues, even though you know,
34:30
Speaker 1: still like, man, what were you doing? But I know
34:32
Speaker 1: those kids didn't intend to kill people when they left
34:36
Speaker 1: the house at night. They they did dumb shit, yes,
34:38
Speaker 1: but I can't hold that anger towards them because you know,
34:43
Speaker 1: it won't serve me. How could you? So you forgive them?
34:47
Speaker 1: Basically it's not necessarily forgiveness, but it's like, um, I'm
34:52
Speaker 1: not really like I saw one of them in court
34:55
Speaker 1: and I was just like I looked and I was
34:57
Speaker 1: just dead behind the eyes towards I was a slack.
35:00
Speaker 1: Was emotional to be in court because it feels so
35:03
Speaker 1: business like and final and real. So I was just like,
35:06
Speaker 1: ain't I ain't gonna keep coming back to court, you know.
35:10
Speaker 1: But when I saw him, I was just like, that's
35:12
Speaker 1: that's one of them, and I was just like I
35:14
Speaker 1: didn't get angry though it wasn't like you know, because
35:17
Speaker 1: deep down I know it was an accident. They were dummies,
35:21
Speaker 1: but you know, because then I think about those families
35:24
Speaker 1: that had to deal with like homicide to where their
35:26
Speaker 1: kids were murdered and then you got to deal with
35:29
Speaker 1: that anger or even like suicide. You know, I'm thankful
35:32
Speaker 1: that it wasn't that. And another blessing is me and
35:35
Speaker 1: my son were good. Yeah, everybody says with a great dad, yeah,
35:39
Speaker 1: you know, we was good. Like you know, it was
35:41
Speaker 1: just like we had a great relationship, so there was
35:43
Speaker 1: no regret or no like man maybe if you know,
35:47
Speaker 1: there was no underlying beef that we had. It was
35:50
Speaker 1: just a good vibe. So with that, like, you know,
35:53
Speaker 1: if I had to live with the weight of man,
35:55
Speaker 1: I wish I would have told them I'd be destroyed.
35:58
Speaker 1: Were they apologetic in or did anybody ever reach out?
36:01
Speaker 1: Did they up? I haven't heard from the family of
36:04
Speaker 1: the of the other drivers, And like, you know, they
36:07
Speaker 1: went in there because you know, they're gonna they're gonna
36:08
Speaker 1: fight for their kids, lives, family, They're gonna be in
36:11
Speaker 1: there like then they probably gonna try to slander anybody
36:15
Speaker 1: up that they can. But you know, the guy I saw,
36:19
Speaker 1: he just looked kind of you know, regular kind of down,
36:23
Speaker 1: but not you know, so it was kind of hard
36:25
Speaker 1: to gauge. But I'm sure they feel I would hope
36:28
Speaker 1: they feel terrible. I would hope, you know, but you
36:31
Speaker 1: never know, And I hope, you know, lessons will learn.
36:33
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel bad for their family because
36:36
Speaker 1: you know, their lives were changed, but at least they
36:39
Speaker 1: still have their sons, you know. But we can't say
36:42
Speaker 1: the same and shout out to you know, Jayden's family
36:45
Speaker 1: and Natalie's family. But it's hard to feel like um,
36:49
Speaker 1: it's hard to not feel like your your son got robbed.
36:52
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel that all the time. Because he
36:53
Speaker 1: was just getting started twenty one. He was twenty one. Um,
36:58
Speaker 1: he was into music, so his rap so we're getting better,
37:01
Speaker 1: you know. Because he would always be like, because he
37:04
Speaker 1: knows that, I'm very much into you know, lyricism and like,
37:09
Speaker 1: so you know the stuff he was listening to. I'll
37:11
Speaker 1: be like, man, I ain't really with this, like what like, well,
37:15
Speaker 1: I don't want to put it out then you ain't
37:17
Speaker 1: feeling me. But like but like you know, people aren't lyrical,
37:22
Speaker 1: but they have great music, but it might not be lyrical. Right.
37:26
Speaker 1: So it was just like, all right, this is his
37:28
Speaker 1: thing because you know he does he does. He did
37:30
Speaker 1: like Kendrick and Cole and like, you know, Drake the
37:33
Speaker 1: Three I call him to Three Kings right now, absolutely,
37:36
Speaker 1: so he did like that. So that's something we could
37:38
Speaker 1: listen to together. We listen to Good Kid Man City
37:40
Speaker 1: and we're both rapping with it. But then the other
37:43
Speaker 1: cast that he would listen to, he would tell me
37:45
Speaker 1: about him. I was like, okay, okay, we shot an
37:47
Speaker 1: episode for all Death like old heads versus Young Heads,
37:53
Speaker 1: and I brought mob deep to the table. He brought
37:56
Speaker 1: money bag yo, right, and so that's yeah. And I
38:01
Speaker 1: was listening to money back for the first time through him,
38:03
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yo, it's not bad. Classic
38:06
Speaker 1: album too. That hit him with a couple of not
38:09
Speaker 1: hit him with that, and he was just like, why
38:11
Speaker 1: are you like this so much? I was like, man,
38:13
Speaker 1: listen to what they're saying. Like when they came out
38:15
Speaker 1: with this, this and the third. I feel like, you know,
38:21
Speaker 1: the Infamous is in my top five all time? Oh absolutely.
38:24
Speaker 1: I saw a revote TV posted something yesterday about what
38:27
Speaker 1: album from the nineties defined your nineties? Yeah, and it
38:30
Speaker 1: was like Infamous, Ready to Die, Amatic, you know what
38:34
Speaker 1: else was up there? But I was like, it's Infamous
38:36
Speaker 1: for me. Actually, Infamous is top three, my top three
38:41
Speaker 1: albums of all time hip hop. I'm giving the real
38:44
Speaker 1: Nances Angela. She built out time. I was trying to
38:47
Speaker 1: think because I never thought about what is that? But
38:49
Speaker 1: I gave some good one You did, you did, but
38:53
Speaker 1: Little Kim that was a good album. Um so Illmatic
38:59
Speaker 1: is my favorite album them to ever exist any genre. Uh.
39:04
Speaker 1: End of the wu tang in the Infamous by Mom
39:06
Speaker 1: It's mad East Coast. I know it's people that man,
39:09
Speaker 1: you don't like the West. I do like the West,
39:11
Speaker 1: but those three are probably my holy Trinity of is
39:16
Speaker 1: a classic album too, it is I like Doggy Style
39:19
Speaker 1: better than Yeah, I think my three would be only
39:22
Speaker 1: built for Cuban Links by Ray Kuhn, TM one on
39:26
Speaker 1: One by Jeezy, and probably The Blueprint by Hole. Okay,
39:32
Speaker 1: that might be my top three all time. Yeah, that
39:36
Speaker 1: might be you threw the South and there my favorite
39:39
Speaker 1: album from the South's probably it might be, though I'm
39:41
Speaker 1: not sure about that. I never thought about it might
39:44
Speaker 1: only thinking about No, I just got my joint thinking
39:48
Speaker 1: about So what's your top five top five grieving moments
39:55
Speaker 1: when your son passed? Man? All right, so when I
39:59
Speaker 1: first got the news, that's number one, you know what
40:01
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Number two is like you know, and we
40:06
Speaker 1: probably would ask that top five moments, who's on your mouth?
40:10
Speaker 1: Rushmore grieving, finding a crime? Hard that first day the funeral.
40:19
Speaker 1: I know you keep up a current event. So I
40:20
Speaker 1: want to ask you with this whole TI situation, yea
40:23
Speaker 1: doing stand up. We saw the whole thing that just
40:25
Speaker 1: happened with him, you know, in the club he didn't
40:28
Speaker 1: like what she had to say about the allegations. I
40:31
Speaker 1: want to know what you think about that because about
40:34
Speaker 1: oh yeah, so rule number one as a comedian, we
40:38
Speaker 1: never heck with each other. That's rule one. That's what
40:41
Speaker 1: I was saying, right, because comedians don't heckle other comedies
40:44
Speaker 1: do not heckle each other. That's just a rule that
40:47
Speaker 1: we abide by. And so you know that lets me
40:51
Speaker 1: know tis new to the game, because you know, we
40:53
Speaker 1: don't do that, you know. And I was just like, man,
40:57
Speaker 1: And then when she came with the receipts of you
41:00
Speaker 1: know what he said to her, because it was just
41:02
Speaker 1: like all right, because you know, I like to get
41:04
Speaker 1: and I know Tip like, you know, I'll hit him
41:06
Speaker 1: on the side. I hit him on the side, and like,
41:08
Speaker 1: so what really happened? I haven't hit him about this,
41:11
Speaker 1: but earlier with the thing with him and Guyfrey, I
41:13
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I sent him a text, but
41:16
Speaker 1: Tip is a caller, Yeah definitely. And then yeah, he
41:22
Speaker 1: called me right back and crazy Tip. Yeah, that's wild man,
41:26
Speaker 1: it's crazy man. Stand up. Um. So I feel like
41:31
Speaker 1: Tip has a lot to learn about just the game
41:35
Speaker 1: that he's coming, because he's coming in from a different field,
41:38
Speaker 1: Like you got to be aggressive and like, you know,
41:40
Speaker 1: make the moves and hip hop to acquire the status
41:44
Speaker 1: that he has acquired. So coming into this new arena, UM,
41:48
Speaker 1: there's just certain rules and like what the rules rules are?
41:52
Speaker 1: You don't you don't hecko other comedians. You don't run
41:55
Speaker 1: the light. Um, you know that's when the red light
41:58
Speaker 1: comes on. You have like two minutes sticking out. I
42:00
Speaker 1: hadn't seen him broke both of them. Yeah, it's like, man,
42:03
Speaker 1: you running the light. He was heckling comedians. So it's
42:06
Speaker 1: just like man, So he's learning as he goes, and
42:09
Speaker 1: you know, Ti is the utmost inconfidence. He's like, hey, man,
42:13
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just do what I gotta do because the
42:14
Speaker 1: pressure is off. I told I told him. I was like, Yo,
42:17
Speaker 1: you have to be mindful of the privilege that you have, Like,
42:20
Speaker 1: you know, you are privileged coming in as a superstar
42:24
Speaker 1: already you're gonna get prime real estate, comedic slots to
42:28
Speaker 1: perform on so um within that you know comes to
42:34
Speaker 1: it's a gift and the curse. Like the gift is
42:36
Speaker 1: you're gonna get good spots. The curse is if you fumble,
42:41
Speaker 1: if you don't do well, you bomb or whatever. Everybody's
42:44
Speaker 1: gonna know what, They're gonna see it, they're gonna post
42:46
Speaker 1: about it. So you know, we were able to come
42:49
Speaker 1: up if we bombed in the Bronx. I bombed in
42:51
Speaker 1: the Bronx one time. I'm gonna bring this up all
42:53
Speaker 1: the time. And I had shorts on. I think it
42:56
Speaker 1: was the shorts that I had on. That's the reason
42:58
Speaker 1: I bombed. M Nobody knew, just just the people at
43:02
Speaker 1: the show itself. You know, it's not online. So he
43:06
Speaker 1: has that gift in that curse of if he does stumble,
43:10
Speaker 1: it's going to be out there like this is what
43:12
Speaker 1: he did with the with the Girl of the Day.
43:14
Speaker 1: It was a stumble. It was a mistake. But everybody
43:17
Speaker 1: knows now, you know, as opposed to us being a
43:20
Speaker 1: little key and under the radar. I just want to
43:22
Speaker 1: know who want to bet who got the million dollars?
43:23
Speaker 1: Didn't he actually call her to be word, did he not?
43:26
Speaker 1: He said it because they had video and so so
43:29
Speaker 1: everybody was like, yo, pale the money, that money, and
43:34
Speaker 1: so he went live with her last night they were
43:37
Speaker 1: together of the million dollars, so it was like so
43:43
Speaker 1: she was just like she said she didn't want the money.
43:47
Speaker 1: Girl call me. Yeah, I've been like, you know, I
43:50
Speaker 1: heard what you're saying and I knew you got it.
43:53
Speaker 1: Let me get it. Um but so but he did.
43:56
Speaker 1: He did post her. So her followers have gone up
44:00
Speaker 1: since this incident. So she's still the ground. She's stood firm,
44:05
Speaker 1: and I feel like she's got it. She's got good
44:09
Speaker 1: exposure now, so hopefully she can run with that and
44:12
Speaker 1: build something off that. But her followers went up a
44:14
Speaker 1: lot so and that that can equal money in this
44:18
Speaker 1: name the social media currency. Tony, I gotta flight to
44:21
Speaker 1: catch man. Where you going? I gotta I gotta say,
44:26
Speaker 1: I'm going. I'm going to I gotta go speak at
44:30
Speaker 1: Norfolk State. Look at you. Yeah, yeah, you're doing good things. Man.
44:35
Speaker 1: Mend I make Caroline's All weekend, but it's sold out.
44:41
Speaker 1: Sound I try to tell people to get your tickets.
44:44
Speaker 1: Early New York pulled up. I want to give a
44:46
Speaker 1: shout out to keV on stage because he is my
44:49
Speaker 1: friend and he is he has I want y'all to
44:52
Speaker 1: have him on the Breakfast Club. When you get a
44:53
Speaker 1: chance your best friend. He's one of my best friends
44:56
Speaker 1: because he really looks out for me and he's like
45:00
Speaker 1: unselfish with his you know, love for me and stuff
45:03
Speaker 1: like that. And he has an app, Kevin Stage Studios
45:06
Speaker 1: app black On app that he has because we can't
45:09
Speaker 1: wait for Netflix. I feel like everybody should get in
45:12
Speaker 1: on the content that he has going. I want to
45:14
Speaker 1: give a shout out to my crew, Uh, Brandy Lewis,
45:18
Speaker 1: Keenan Baker, Keian Poli and DC Irving and Chazz even
45:22
Speaker 1: though he stepped away from comedy. But listen to the
45:24
Speaker 1: Daddy Issues podcast. Listen to the Verbal Cardio podcast. My producer,
45:29
Speaker 1: Sabrina Castro. She's also my woman, my companion, my partner.
45:34
Speaker 1: Um and uh, I think that's I know, I'm forgetting Instagram.
45:40
Speaker 1: My Instagram is at Tony Baker on Instagram, Tony Baker
45:44
Speaker 1: Comedy on Twitter, Tony Baker Comedy on Facebook. But rock
45:49
Speaker 1: with me, man, I'm out here. Do you mind talking
45:51
Speaker 1: to Sabrina on the phone, even even with her like
45:55
Speaker 1: she she knows, like, look, I know you don't like
45:58
Speaker 1: talking on the phone, but this is that and the
46:00
Speaker 1: third near sh'll hop off. My mom does the same thing,
46:02
Speaker 1: so it's like people know, like, you know, you tell
46:05
Speaker 1: people what you don't like some people try to force it,
46:07
Speaker 1: yes and be like, look, I'm special. That's Ida Rodriguez,
46:10
Speaker 1: Ida Rodriguez. He's the fact. I hate talking on the phone.
46:14
Speaker 1: She's like, look, we're gonna talk, so she'll send me
46:17
Speaker 1: voice notes. Okay, yeah, yeah, So and she gave me
46:20
Speaker 1: a shout out. She gave Serene a shout out on
46:23
Speaker 1: her comedy special, and Serene is my son. She gave
46:26
Speaker 1: him a shout out at the end of her special.
46:29
Speaker 1: And I got an HBO special coming out hosted by
46:32
Speaker 1: Marlon Wains called The Headliners. It's been on HBO Max
46:36
Speaker 1: April twenty. First, I'm Wains, Tony Bagad, thank you for coming,
46:40
Speaker 1: my brother to come back again. Oh don't promise me
46:44
Speaker 1: a good time. That's done because I got y'all dms. Now,
46:50
Speaker 1: oh man, it's over for y'all. Man, It's Tony Baker.
46:53
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.