Latest / Scam Goddess / The Curious Case of Benja-Scam Button w/ Josh Brekhus (Fraud Friday)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's popping Congregation is your girl? Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
- 0:09Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
- 0:13Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
- 0:16Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming scam, Come rob from scam,
- 0:34Speaker 1: Come rob from scam Goddess. What's popping congregation is your
- 0:43Speaker 1: girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess, And we're back with
- 0:45Speaker 1: another installmentive Scam Goddess. The podcast all about robbery bred
- 0:48Speaker 1: those who practices. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them.
- 0:54Speaker 1: And y'all already know. Come on, parasocial relationship. Give it
- 0:56Speaker 1: to me. I'm very yes excited, I truly am. We
- 1:00Speaker 1: got a homie on the show today and I'm so
- 1:02Speaker 1: happy that he's here. We have an amazing actor. He's
- 1:05Speaker 1: a writer, he's a comedian. Honey be writing movies and
- 1:08Speaker 1: here's my homie. We do improv together. We've done it
- 1:10Speaker 1: prop together for years. He'll be performing in Lero's first
- 1:13Speaker 1: show back to UCB along with myself in Los Angeles,
- 1:17Speaker 1: if you're in La, pull the fuck up. October nineteenth
- 1:20Speaker 1: at seven pm. We're gonna do some make them ups
- 1:23Speaker 1: for you congregation. Please welcome Josh Braggers to the show.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Thank you so much. What's going on. It's gonna be
- 1:30Speaker 2: a good show. I don't know why you.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Did I say it in a bad way. I thought
- 1:34Speaker 1: I said it it was cute.
- 1:35Speaker 2: We're good, we're practicing. We're gonna be good.
- 1:37Speaker 1: No, we're gonna we're literally practicing this week. If you
- 1:41Speaker 1: don't know what UCB shows, well, the ones that we do,
- 1:44Speaker 1: we do heralds, which are like long form improv and
- 1:47Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking out there. Improv gets roasted
- 1:49Speaker 1: in television all the time. It's just because all them
- 1:52Speaker 1: people who became writers was mad that they never got
- 1:54Speaker 1: on the improv team, and so then they write it
- 1:55Speaker 1: into the TV show. It's a scam. They hate in
- 1:57Speaker 1: on us. Okay, yeah, yeah, we do make them ups
- 2:01Speaker 1: and there's a form for it and people learn the form.
- 2:03Speaker 1: And you know, it's my favorite cult.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my favorite cold I've ever been in.
- 2:07Speaker 1: So yeah, listen, they put the kool aid. I was like, what.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Flavors it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It surely doesn't matter. I'm drinking it. Oh man, Josh,
- 2:17Speaker 1: I'm happy to have you here. I do have to
- 2:20Speaker 1: ask you a probing question. The question we always ask
- 2:23Speaker 1: our guests on the show is what's your relationship with scams?
- 2:26Speaker 1: Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you
- 2:28Speaker 1: ever been scammed? If you remember a story, or if
- 2:30Speaker 1: have you done a scam, if it's outside of the
- 2:32Speaker 1: statute of limitations, like let us know, yeah, I.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Think so, Okay, it's evolving.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Oh I love that, Okay, Because as a.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Boy, I was like a little Lutheran boy, right, okay,
- 2:41Speaker 2: never did anything wrong. So scams was like the devil's work, right,
- 2:45Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Like it was just like, oh, you know, devil's work,
- 2:48Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So it's like you work hard, you do what you
- 2:52Speaker 2: do your job, and then like you get rewarded for it.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Okay. So bamboozle was for Beasibo right, right, and only
- 2:57Speaker 1: him alone, Okay.
- 2:58Speaker 2: And then I went to college one of the biggest
- 3:00Speaker 2: scams out there, and then my first job was in
- 3:04Speaker 2: a price rent a.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Car okay, So then you worked for a scam.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I was scamming people left and right. I was selling
- 3:09Speaker 2: them insurance with these baby blue eyes and this charisma.
- 3:12Speaker 2: When I was like, you don't need this stuff, and
- 3:14Speaker 2: then I opened my eyes and then I was like,
- 3:17Speaker 2: you do.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Have the baby blue thank you do have the baby
- 3:19Speaker 1: blues popping. But what I will say is that the
- 3:22Speaker 1: insurance at rental car places. I have gotten into an
- 3:25Speaker 1: accident with a rental car and I put it on
- 3:27Speaker 1: my insurance and it was a bad idea.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Do you just have to pay the deductible? Right?
- 3:32Speaker 1: Yeah? But my insurance, Like I've talked about this on
- 3:35Speaker 1: the show, and I'll never tell y'all where I'm at
- 3:36Speaker 1: right now because it's extremely ghetto. But I got dropped
- 3:40Speaker 1: from all State. They said I wasn't good hands no more.
- 3:42Speaker 2: When was that?
- 3:43Speaker 1: That was this year?
- 3:45Speaker 2: Actually?
- 3:46Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was last year. It was last year
- 3:48Speaker 1: or maybe the year before. Yeah, it was in twenty twenty.
- 3:50Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty.
- 3:51Speaker 2: The speel is like you go like this, like what
- 3:52Speaker 2: is your insurance? Yeah, you go like, oh, State Farm.
- 3:55Speaker 2: It's like, look, what's your deductible? Like two fifty five
- 3:58Speaker 2: hundred dollars?
- 3:58Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you got it all your record if
- 4:00Speaker 1: you do a rental car and you get the thirty
- 4:02Speaker 1: five dollars a day, then I can run that bitch
- 4:04Speaker 1: into a wall.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's but what you're saying is like, basically,
- 4:08Speaker 2: why don't you just pay this like fifty nine nine
- 4:10Speaker 2: nine a day and then you can Yeah, you can
- 4:12Speaker 2: run this thing in the wall. It can be on fire,
- 4:13Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It won't touch all. It won't even
- 4:15Speaker 2: touch the deductible.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Honestly, if you get the insurance from the rental car company,
- 4:19Speaker 1: you should just run that bitch into a wall right
- 4:21Speaker 1: before you return it. Like, will you pull up to
- 4:23Speaker 1: the enterprise like hit us several curves?
- 4:25Speaker 2: Wh One did that? And we were like we were
- 4:28Speaker 2: like oh shit, like what do we do? And they're like, well,
- 4:31Speaker 2: I'll call the boss. But technically they got the insurance.
- 4:34Speaker 1: It's smoking Lenny's worth. If you go to Hurts, you
- 4:36Speaker 1: better make that car hurt on the way back. You
- 4:39Speaker 1: scrape that bitch oka ki it key it? Why not? Yeah,
- 4:42Speaker 1: it's not your fault.
- 4:43Speaker 2: So ifter that my eyes were open, I'm like, oh,
- 4:45Speaker 2: you know what, I'd rather be a scammer than a scammy,
- 4:51Speaker 2: and I rather scam the man. Yeah, so then I
- 4:53Speaker 2: I flip side. I went to the the good side.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Of the scamming. That's whe we're the good side of scamming. Yeah,
- 4:59Speaker 1: you have to tell me. So you were selling them insurance,
- 5:02Speaker 1: but was there anything else that was like a little
- 5:04Speaker 1: suss like that you would like that they would ask
- 5:06Speaker 1: you to like push, did they have like an air
- 5:09Speaker 1: freshener add on or like no.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Well, okay, first of all, they would have you pushed
- 5:15Speaker 2: like the GPS okay, and like this was like this
- 5:18Speaker 2: was like ten years a little.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Because GPS is now on our phone.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was still like starting to be on
- 5:23Speaker 2: our phone and was like okay.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Because ways tells me to drive the people's backyards all
- 5:27Speaker 1: the time. Do you want to save two minutes? Yeah,
- 5:29Speaker 1: pull up on their curve.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Take a left, drive on the sidewalk.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Yeah, So you would so you would tell them like, oh,
- 5:34Speaker 1: if you don't have the GPS, and obviously if you're
- 5:36Speaker 1: renting a car, you're probably not in the city that
- 5:38Speaker 1: you live in.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Right, this is okay, this is in Scotts, Arizona. This
- 5:42Speaker 2: is like hospitals down Yeah, this is where like old
- 5:45Speaker 2: people go to die. Like this is like I'm pushing
- 5:47Speaker 2: this on like old women, and I feel terrible.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Now you over here being a little a little jiggle
- 5:54Speaker 1: for our enterprise. And I was just like, hey, sweet thing,
- 5:57Speaker 1: I got to see your idea and make sure you're
- 5:58Speaker 1: twenty food.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I was flirting with old women. And I don't
- 6:02Speaker 2: know if I can use the GPS. Like you can
- 6:04Speaker 2: handle it. You handle it all this lifetime. You can
- 6:06Speaker 2: handle it.
- 6:07Speaker 1: You could take that GPA. You could take it.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Oh, they would make you so, you know, like they
- 6:13Speaker 2: have marks on the car, like you go around and
- 6:15Speaker 2: you like mark up.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Like, oh there's a scratch. It's like it's not your fault. Yeaheah.
- 6:19Speaker 2: And like my manager, I don't care. He sucked. His
- 6:23Speaker 2: name was Robbie. He was like, you can just put
- 6:25Speaker 2: a scuff on there, and like so when they come back,
- 6:28Speaker 2: like we can kind of ding them for it. It's
- 6:29Speaker 2: it's it's shady.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Oh my god, they put on a bit. Yes, yoh,
- 6:35Speaker 1: Josh is giving us a tea right now. If you
- 6:37Speaker 1: are renting a car one, if you are a bad
- 6:40Speaker 1: driver like myself, get the insurance. That way, it's not
- 6:43Speaker 1: going to be on your permanent insurance record. So take
- 6:46Speaker 1: a video when they're marking the scuffs and the shit,
- 6:50Speaker 1: so that you have a full video of the car
- 6:52Speaker 1: walk around that bitch real slow, so that if they
- 6:55Speaker 1: try to do a little scuff add on, you know,
- 6:57Speaker 1: you you have proof that it wasn't.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Check and get that video and get it on the person.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah in the video, yes, yeah, okay, Oh my goodness.
- 7:07Speaker 1: So they would be like, put a little scuff here
- 7:09Speaker 1: or something, or don't put the scuff that was already there. Basically, yeah,
- 7:13Speaker 1: so miss some scuff so that when you come back
- 7:16Speaker 1: you can be like, oh, I didn't have the scuff
- 7:18Speaker 1: on the move on the card.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I honestly didn't do that. I
- 7:23Speaker 2: I like sold insurance to this like couple, like this
- 7:27Speaker 2: family that like I upgraded them to like a convertible
- 7:30Speaker 2: that they didn't need. And I was like, what am
- 7:32Speaker 2: I doing? And they were like our car just like
- 7:34Speaker 2: got broken down, and like you could tell like both
- 7:36Speaker 2: of both of the parents worked, you know, like they
- 7:38Speaker 2: were just like trying to make ends meet. And I
- 7:40Speaker 2: sold them the triple insurance. And by the way, they
- 7:43Speaker 2: would click that clipboard three times when you come in
- 7:45Speaker 2: the office, and everyone would celebrate just like.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Ringing the bell, like we got another one, ring the bell, yes.
- 7:51Speaker 2: And so it's my soul believe and it would be
- 7:53Speaker 2: like crack, crack, crack, And I did it.
- 7:55Speaker 1: That's when I had the bell. There was like we
- 7:56Speaker 1: got to make people feel good about being awful, like
- 7:59Speaker 1: bring the bell. Yeah good. No, wait, I have a question.
- 8:02Speaker 1: So the family that you gave one, I think a
- 8:05Speaker 1: little top down for a hard working family could be
- 8:07Speaker 1: a good vibe. You know, let that Scottsdale air h
- 8:10Speaker 1: you hit your pores. But the family, how did you
- 8:13Speaker 1: get them to get the more expensive car and triple insurance?
- 8:16Speaker 1: Please explain triple insurance. So I need you to explain the
- 8:19Speaker 1: triple insurance and also how you got them to get
- 8:21Speaker 1: the car, because if they're working hard and they don't
- 8:23Speaker 1: got coins, why won't they just get the cheapest option.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was because I was like, you
- 8:28Speaker 2: need more room. Because I saw the kids. They wanted
- 8:30Speaker 2: to get like a compact, like I think at the
- 8:32Speaker 2: time it was like a Chevy Cobalt.
- 8:33Speaker 1: How many kids I have, like Johnny Kakes three or.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Four eight three or four kids? Yeah, And I was like,
- 8:39Speaker 2: you know, it looks like you've had a tough day
- 8:40Speaker 2: because everyone's coming from an accident or going to the airport.
- 8:43Speaker 2: That's that's what enterprises. That's why they're all everywhere. They're
- 8:47Speaker 2: by collision centers and they're by the airport. Yeah, because
- 8:50Speaker 2: you're picking people up on their worst day. People are pissed,
- 8:55Speaker 2: and you can just tap into that emotion and you
- 8:57Speaker 2: can be like, man, man, yeah, they really fucked you.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Huh man, they hate you on that. And then that blind.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Lass some ambulance chasers. Yeah, they're like, yeah, we stayed
- 9:05Speaker 1: by this freeway because it's a hell accident. Yes, just
- 9:08Speaker 1: come right over, just walk over. Yeah. Yeah, we jumped
- 9:11Speaker 1: off ramp and come near a brad Yeah. Oh my,
- 9:13Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you come in and you were empathetic
- 9:15Speaker 1: with them and being like damn, I'm so sad that
- 9:17Speaker 1: this happened to you.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Ok And this is fucked up. But uh and it
- 9:20Speaker 2: was a week Okay, So we had this weekend deal
- 9:22Speaker 2: okay where like it's half off if you get it
- 9:26Speaker 2: on Friday, but you have to return it on Sunday,
- 9:29Speaker 2: which we're not open. Uh, but you have to.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Okay, Like okay, we got a deal, but you gotta
- 9:38Speaker 1: return on Sunday. Also, we are closed those yeah days,
- 9:40Speaker 1: so good luck with that.
- 9:41Speaker 2: There's a key return. There's a key return, okay, but
- 9:44Speaker 2: like basically it's got to be returned on Sunday and
- 9:47Speaker 2: then you better call on Monday and make sure the
- 9:49Speaker 2: keys are there.
- 9:49Speaker 1: This is very Nathan for you.
- 9:51Speaker 2: It's bad.
- 9:51Speaker 1: It's like, what if we had a deal, but then
- 9:53Speaker 1: we maybe even climb a mountain right to put the
- 9:55Speaker 1: keys up.
- 9:55Speaker 2: I worked here three months because I was like I
- 9:57Speaker 2: can't do this. Plus they stuck me in the airport.
- 9:59Speaker 2: That's a whole other and I was just like I
- 10:01Speaker 2: can't do this anymore. So I got them into the
- 10:04Speaker 2: weekend special for half off, and he needed it for
- 10:07Speaker 2: like four or five days, so it was gonna go
- 10:09Speaker 2: back to full price. He's gonna be paying like forty
- 10:11Speaker 2: bucks extra after Sunday.
- 10:12Speaker 1: But did he at least get the haf all you
- 10:14Speaker 1: did for the That was a nice deal. It's not
- 10:17Speaker 1: a good deal if you're only getting the car for
- 10:18Speaker 1: the weekend.
- 10:19Speaker 2: But I like, I needed a shower at lunch. I
- 10:21Speaker 2: was like, I just like, you get an hour lunch,
- 10:23Speaker 2: and I was like I just want to I'd sleep
- 10:25Speaker 2: in my car. I'd like go home and just be
- 10:27Speaker 2: like this is terrible and we're and at the time,
- 10:29Speaker 2: we're making eleven dollars an hour.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Do you get commission for trick and bean?
- 10:33Speaker 2: No? No, you get to it's just the bail you
- 10:36Speaker 2: get the rapid upward mobility whatever. Like you're like you're
- 10:40Speaker 2: grinding to be the assistant manager so you can get
- 10:42Speaker 2: fifty k, and then you're grinding to be the like
- 10:44Speaker 2: branch manager so you can get seventy K. It's a scam.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Wow an MLM for cars. Yeah, and like when the
- 10:51Speaker 1: pandemic hit, they started just selling them bitches, did they? Yeah,
- 10:55Speaker 1: so rental car company started running out of inventory because
- 10:57Speaker 1: it was all just sitting because people are traveling is
- 11:00Speaker 1: so they started just selling the cars because sometimes like
- 11:02Speaker 1: if you want a good deal on a car, like
- 11:04Speaker 1: you can go to a like rent car places will
- 11:06Speaker 1: sometimes sell the cars after you know, so many mileage
- 11:09Speaker 1: or whatever.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I mean, look, Joshua, I got out though. I look
- 11:16Speaker 1: you did better than me because I am an assimilator,
- 11:19Speaker 1: like if and this is something I had to learn
- 11:21Speaker 1: about myself. If I am in any environment, I'm always
- 11:24Speaker 1: going to try to find a way to survive and
- 11:27Speaker 1: also be the strongest.
- 11:28Speaker 2: You would have crushed us. I would be better than me.
- 11:32Speaker 1: We weren't working them cars up. I would have been like,
- 11:33Speaker 1: oh yeah, bitch, I just gotta I'm gonna miss this
- 11:36Speaker 1: little ding on the side. I'm missed this one too
- 11:38Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm like, sorry, we gotta gone to
- 11:40Speaker 1: show wages because you fucked this car up. Let me
- 11:43Speaker 1: ring the bell. I'll be ringing the bell all goddamn day.
- 11:44Speaker 1: They'd be so sick of me.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Is she the manager? Like no, she just started here
- 11:47Speaker 2: like two weeks ago, and she's already running now.
- 11:49Speaker 1: I'd be rapping beats. So we're ringing the bell, like,
- 11:51Speaker 1: got another bitch in another whip beat? They asked, so
- 11:55Speaker 1: they can. They're like what is wrong with her?
- 11:57Speaker 2: In front of the customers too, like.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, woa we just signed the paperwork getting let
- 12:03Speaker 1: me go ring this bad Oh. It would have been
- 12:05Speaker 1: the worse. That's why I tried to stay out of listen.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I used to work for a drug front. I've said
- 12:10Speaker 1: it on this podcast before. At the time, I didn't
- 12:12Speaker 1: really know it was a drug. I mean I pieced
- 12:15Speaker 1: it together, you know, eventually. I mean, honestly, the shooting
- 12:19Speaker 1: that we were in before I started working, I should
- 12:21Speaker 1: have probably had alerted me.
- 12:22Speaker 2: But that's a big one.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Yeah. I went for party problem and I was like, Oh,
- 12:26Speaker 1: they shouldn't have a club, absolutely not. And then I
- 12:28Speaker 1: was like, I'll work at your bar and people would
- 12:31Speaker 1: come over and be like, hey, we need cash from
- 12:33Speaker 1: the register, and it would be like the owner's son
- 12:35Speaker 1: and shit, and they'd be like I'll be like, okay,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I give him the cash, and I write a little
- 12:38Speaker 1: note in the register like your son took sixty dollars
- 12:41Speaker 1: or whatever, just put it in the register. I got
- 12:43Speaker 1: paid directly out of the register under the table. All
- 12:45Speaker 1: of the people who came there were just like the
- 12:48Speaker 1: most unsavory people you've ever met in your life, Like,
- 12:51Speaker 1: and we were right across the street from like do
- 12:54Speaker 1: you know some places still had, at least when I
- 12:56Speaker 1: was in college, the porn stores.
- 13:00Speaker 2: You mean, like adult shops. Yeah.
- 13:02Speaker 1: It was like you go in the back and you
- 13:04Speaker 1: can put some quarters in and see like a lady
- 13:06Speaker 1: rubbit oil on her titties.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. We did that drunk in San
- 13:10Speaker 2: Francisco one time, and we didn't know what we were
- 13:12Speaker 2: going into and we put a quarter in. I'm like,
- 13:14Speaker 2: oh what, yeah, you're in San Francisco.
- 13:18Speaker 1: They was something else.
- 13:20Speaker 2: We went to a porn shop in high school and
- 13:22Speaker 2: it was too much. We were just like, oh, this
- 13:23Speaker 2: is we don't need. We're not like we're having graduated
- 13:26Speaker 2: to this.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Level of like yeah, I'm glad now you can just
- 13:28Speaker 1: google porn because it just feels very weird to like
- 13:31Speaker 1: get in your car your destination is porn, like you
- 13:35Speaker 1: putting your GPS on our way to poorn. That just
- 13:37Speaker 1: feels Yeah, I don't ever want to be so in
- 13:40Speaker 1: the porn that I need to go and buy box sets,
- 13:42Speaker 1: you know. That just feels like a lot, just.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Like the old guys like walking around like.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Because everybody in the porn store is look, I don't
- 13:49Speaker 1: kick shame, we don't shame, no, get you get it
- 13:52Speaker 1: how you live. But I had never seen somebody come
- 13:55Speaker 1: in or out of a porn store or come over
- 13:57Speaker 1: to the bar after the porn store and been like,
- 13:59Speaker 1: oh that guy, stand up guy.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I think part of the kink is going into
- 14:03Speaker 2: the store.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I think for sure, because it's so so much, it's
- 14:06Speaker 1: so explicit. But they would come over. We had two
- 14:08Speaker 1: dollars draft beers during the day, two dollars at pitt
- 14:12Speaker 1: This was at the bar that I worked at, Yes,
- 14:14Speaker 1: and so it would be like cours Light just pissed,
- 14:16Speaker 1: just like you know whatever, except if core sponsors are
- 14:19Speaker 1: showed that's the most delicious beach. They don't right now though,
- 14:22Speaker 1: so it is pissed. But if they sponster, y'all go
- 14:25Speaker 1: hear me like, mm o, course, yeah, I feel like
- 14:28Speaker 1: I'm on the mountain. Give them the peppermint pattishpiel. No.
- 14:32Speaker 1: But that's how I should have known, because we didn't
- 14:35Speaker 1: have enough foot traffic to like keep that place open.
- 14:37Speaker 1: It was for sure a money liundry situation.
- 14:40Speaker 2: I worked at a bar like that. There's this bar
- 14:42Speaker 2: I went to Arizona State, so fill in the blank,
- 14:44Speaker 2: but we with this bar. It was called the Dash
- 14:48Speaker 2: and it was called bladder Busters. I think I've told
- 14:50Speaker 2: you this.
- 14:50Speaker 1: But bladder Buster.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Yeah. It was a Tuesday night just to get people
- 14:54Speaker 2: like in the bar. It was penny beers all night
- 14:56Speaker 2: unless someone went to the bathroom, and so they taped
- 14:59Speaker 2: up the bathroom and if someone broke that seal, the
- 15:03Speaker 2: drinks went back to like what two bucks.
- 15:05Speaker 1: And so they were encouraging people to be on the street.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Being like the bar, like people were peeing behind TV.
- 15:11Speaker 2: It was disgusting and like if someone broke that seal,
- 15:15Speaker 2: there would be fights. People would beat that person up.
- 15:17Speaker 2: It was bad.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Not you needed to relieve your bladder. If somebody is
- 15:20Speaker 1: waiting outside to pummel.
- 15:21Speaker 2: You, Yeah, it'd be someone that didn't go to the
- 15:23Speaker 2: school that just like I got a bathroom and would
- 15:25Speaker 2: walk and break the thing and people would just like
- 15:26Speaker 2: lose their shit.
- 15:28Speaker 1: See, this is what capitalism does, does not you beating
- 15:30Speaker 1: somebody's ass because like they're fucked up the pain in
- 15:32Speaker 1: the bathroom.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Gotta do now. We gotta jump them as soon as
- 15:37Speaker 1: they opened the north.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Then the rules, Yeah, we gotta jump them them the rules.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Also, like if they fucked it up, they fucked it
- 15:44Speaker 1: up already. Why can't you just be like, hey man,
- 15:46Speaker 1: you fucked it up for all of us, Like, way
- 15:48Speaker 1: gotta beat them up. They gotta learn a hard list.
- 15:50Speaker 2: I think.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Wow, wowsers, scarce cold, and we are back and it's
- 15:58Speaker 1: time for What's hot and frout. This is where we
- 16:00Speaker 1: warn you about popping scams in the zeitgeist or you
- 16:03Speaker 1: know these days when you read a listener letter from
- 16:05Speaker 1: you guys as always snitch on your friends, your family,
- 16:07Speaker 1: and your enemies at scam gooddesspot at gmail dot com.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Just make sure the scam is retired because we don't
- 16:13Speaker 1: want to what Yes, fuck up your bag? Amen? So
- 16:17Speaker 1: I need a fake name for this person, Josh. We
- 16:19Speaker 1: don't care about.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Gender, Susan.
- 16:21Speaker 1: So Susan says, Hi scam goddess accolades to follow at
- 16:24Speaker 1: the end of the email. Okay, Susan, you were real
- 16:26Speaker 1: when you listen to the podcast on this show. I
- 16:28Speaker 1: don't like to read nice things that people say about me.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Not that I don't want to hear them. It just
- 16:33Speaker 1: feels weird to like be like, Lacy, you are the best,
- 16:37Speaker 1: and so like, I'm not gonna waste you all time
- 16:39Speaker 1: like that. But I do love to read them, So
- 16:41Speaker 1: please put them at the end. I want to see
- 16:43Speaker 1: what's going on in your life. Okay, So here we go,
- 16:46Speaker 1: Susan says. What we have here is a scam with layers.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Okay too, but still okay, you better sell it. Susan.
- 16:53Speaker 1: An eleven year old boy set up a lemonade Stan
- 16:55Speaker 1: when one man paid for his lemonade with one hundred
- 16:59Speaker 1: dollars bill. This is wild on its own, but the
- 17:02Speaker 1: man asked for exact change. The boy only had eighty
- 17:05Speaker 1: five dollars, so that is what he gave him. When
- 17:08Speaker 1: the boy went to spend one hundred dollars at the
- 17:10Speaker 1: gas station, he found out it was a fake. No, whoa,
- 17:15Speaker 1: I'm a pausitive just for a second, Susan, because what
- 17:19Speaker 1: kind of grown up are you? Look? Kids are unemployed
- 17:23Speaker 1: and they're freeloading. So honestly, I guess it's probably better
- 17:25Speaker 1: to rob kids than adults, you know what I mean? Like,
- 17:28Speaker 1: the kid don't have to worry about rink, the kid
- 17:29Speaker 1: don't have to worry about food. Yeah, it's not his money,
- 17:31Speaker 1: he has not his money. I feel like, honestly rob kids.
- 17:34Speaker 1: I don't you know. I think that's where the phrase
- 17:36Speaker 1: taking candy from a baby came from. You take the
- 17:39Speaker 1: baby's candy. The baby he will be fine. I don't know.
- 17:43Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna chastise this adult, and then
- 17:45Speaker 1: I started thinking about it and I was like, nah,
- 17:46Speaker 1: the baby will be fine. If the baby got enough,
- 17:49Speaker 1: you know, ingenuity to set up eliminade standing. I've said
- 17:52Speaker 1: this repeatedly on the show. If your kid wants to
- 17:54Speaker 1: get into business, you're raising a scammer. Okay, any kid
- 17:57Speaker 1: that's like I need some income.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Yeah, like seven, it's like go play. And also it
- 18:01Speaker 2: had eighty five dollars for change.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Five dollars and change already, child.
- 18:06Speaker 2: That's on Brentwood. Shit, that's like that's like that. They're fine,
- 18:09Speaker 2: They're fine. I never started a business, right.
- 18:11Speaker 1: It's giving like rich family, but we're trying to teach
- 18:13Speaker 1: our kids work at it.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sure, it's.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get an inheritance, but we want you
- 18:18Speaker 1: to know, yeah, how to use it.
- 18:20Speaker 2: You're well, you're gonna be working for daddy or mommy
- 18:23Speaker 2: at our real estate job. But we want you to
- 18:25Speaker 2: feel like you've were right.
- 18:27Speaker 1: It's giving what is her name from industry, Yasmin. It's
- 18:32Speaker 1: giving Yasmin from industry. And if you haven't watched industry,
- 18:35Speaker 1: this is not an ad, but like, get into it.
- 18:37Speaker 1: It's so fucking good. It's like what if Euphoria as
- 18:41Speaker 1: Succession and Gossip Girl had a baby and it was
- 18:45Speaker 1: sexy and they just they just be fucking in fighting
- 18:49Speaker 1: and trying to stay alive and scheme and it's it's
- 18:53Speaker 1: so good.
- 18:53Speaker 2: That's where I think sometimes not to like not to
- 18:57Speaker 2: make this about genders, but I think that's where women
- 18:58Speaker 2: and men sometimes like different, Like all they have sex
- 19:01Speaker 2: and stuff on like cable TV. It's like guys are like,
- 19:04Speaker 2: we just watched porn.
- 19:05Speaker 1: That's not true, because Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones
- 19:08Speaker 1: is the horniest soap opera I've ever fucking seen. And
- 19:11Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's a soap opera for men.
- 19:13Speaker 1: I'm saying here, I'm saying now, and so is House
- 19:15Speaker 1: of the Dragons. Yes, I added the Nest. That's all
- 19:17Speaker 1: soap operas that men feel like they can get into
- 19:20Speaker 1: because it's a lot of gore and then it's titties
- 19:22Speaker 1: and then it's war. Not me. It's a soap. You're
- 19:26Speaker 1: watching Days of our Lives, but they're wearing like olden
- 19:29Speaker 1: time costumes and doing what I call the white people wakanda,
- 19:33Speaker 1: so you know, like black panther like they have that
- 19:35Speaker 1: we all speak like black panther like this is the
- 19:37Speaker 1: Konza voice. This is not an accident in Africa. This
- 19:40Speaker 1: is something that we meant up and then when you
- 19:42Speaker 1: go to like the olden time shows to be like
- 19:45Speaker 1: the law, this is everything is happening. And here we
- 19:49Speaker 1: are watching on the town's accent, the conness. What is that?
- 19:54Speaker 2: And we all do it? We just pick it up.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we just gotta it gives old and timing,
- 19:58Speaker 1: you know. But so yes, it's giving asthmin from industry.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Who don't know that, go watch industry. I play a
- 20:06Speaker 1: woman named Harper, and I Carly there is a black
- 20:08Speaker 1: woman who plays Harper on this show. And honestly, she
- 20:12Speaker 1: ate my Harper up. I gotta go like, she ate
- 20:14Speaker 1: me up. I'm not the best Harper on TV that
- 20:16Speaker 1: that woman is. She's fire, she's amazing. I stand her.
- 20:20Speaker 1: So anyway, back to this little boy and why he
- 20:22Speaker 1: got eighty five dollars and he just got scammed with
- 20:24Speaker 1: a fake hundred dollar bill. So the real scam came.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Susan, we thought we already saw scam.
- 20:31Speaker 1: She said layers too, only two, but it said layers.
- 20:34Speaker 1: It's not quite giving terror, masou, but got two layers
- 20:37Speaker 1: like banana pudding. We we got the cookie on top
- 20:40Speaker 1: and we got to putting.
- 20:40Speaker 2: We don't know anything about desserts. You know it's the banana. Yeah,
- 20:44Speaker 2: and then actually.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Banana put be having a layer of banana, so it's
- 20:46Speaker 1: like a vanilla ca too. Dad. I don't like the
- 20:49Speaker 1: taste of banana, but I like the flavor. Is that weird?
- 20:51Speaker 2: I don't understand that.
- 20:52Speaker 1: I don't want to eat a banana, but if it's
- 20:54Speaker 1: banana flavored, I'll fuck with it.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Because it's phallic.
- 20:56Speaker 1: No, because it's got bad like text.
- 21:01Speaker 2: It's weird. And then you take the skin off of it,
- 21:02Speaker 2: which is weird.
- 21:04Speaker 1: It's just and it's not good. Why are we lying
- 21:06Speaker 1: about bananas?
- 21:06Speaker 2: They fucking nasty, big potassium.
- 21:09Speaker 1: I know when I used to run track, I would
- 21:11Speaker 1: buy them green so that they were harder, and I
- 21:13Speaker 1: would eat them because I was getting Charlie horses every
- 21:15Speaker 1: other night. So but I hate them bitches. Anyway, this
- 21:17Speaker 1: is gonna be a tangential one. Josh and I are friends.
- 21:19Speaker 1: You guys know how this goes. When the friends are here,
- 21:21Speaker 1: we gonna we're gonna be under but we're getting back.
- 21:23Speaker 1: We're getting back to Susan. So Susan says, the real
- 21:26Speaker 1: scam came when this boy's family set up a go
- 21:29Speaker 1: fund me to recuperate the money he lost to the scam.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Technically he was only out of eighty five dollars, but
- 21:38Speaker 1: they had the Caucasity to set the goal for two
- 21:42Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. Okay, Panas suffering, Panas suffering, I
- 21:46Speaker 1: feel like two fifty ain't crazy. If this was truly
- 21:49Speaker 1: a child and need, that would be one thing. But
- 21:51Speaker 1: I must say, the kid looks like a little asshole
- 21:53Speaker 1: whose helicopter mom set this up? Set up this very
- 21:58Speaker 1: fancy elimonade stand that you probably bought at Wayfair. Oh
- 22:02Speaker 1: that you reading the whole family. I don't walk on
- 22:04Speaker 1: a little baby anshole. Let's look at him like an asshole.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Oh damn, I wish, I wish I could post this
- 22:10Speaker 1: to the Instagram. I'm so sorry. I'm gonna have to
- 22:12Speaker 1: deprive you guys of this because I don't post. He
- 22:14Speaker 1: has the haircuts out consent.
- 22:15Speaker 2: He has the haircut that they try to give me
- 22:18Speaker 2: like this.
- 22:19Speaker 1: The richer spencer, Like, if you are a starter pack.
- 22:21Speaker 2: It's an all right adjacent haircut.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely gonna be all four chan.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he looks rich that haircut.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Right, because it's like it's two style it definitely wasn't
- 22:32Speaker 1: done with a bowl.
- 22:33Speaker 2: No, if he had a mullet, which I had, then
- 22:36Speaker 2: you know, yeah.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we should give this kid money. And look
- 22:40Speaker 1: at wait, look at the lemonade stand. First of all,
- 22:42Speaker 1: lemonade stands back in the day used to just be
- 22:44Speaker 1: a table and a handwritten sign. This is a limonade.
- 22:48Speaker 1: I will crop the kid out and I'll show you
- 22:50Speaker 1: all the lemonade stand the lemonade stand. First of all,
- 22:53Speaker 1: is that glass you have eliminading a glass picture?
- 22:55Speaker 2: Well, COVID maybe what what in the picture?
- 22:59Speaker 1: I thought you meant there was like a oh no, no, no, no,
- 23:01Speaker 1: they didn't set up for COVID. But also like can
- 23:04Speaker 1: we zoom in on this photo because I need to
- 23:06Speaker 1: get a clearer view. So the liminade stent is decorated,
- 23:10Speaker 1: it's got a chalkboard on the front that says lemonade.
- 23:14Speaker 1: And how much they charge to put this damn lemonade lemonade?
- 23:17Speaker 1: Fifty cents? Oh that's endearing. It's what it's like back
- 23:21Speaker 1: to the fifties, you know, a time that only people
- 23:23Speaker 1: who are old and white thought was good because it
- 23:27Speaker 1: wasn't good for anybody else. So yeah, this is a lot,
- 23:31Speaker 1: and the mom really decorated this.
- 23:33Speaker 2: I think they paid someone to do that.
- 23:35Speaker 1: That was just start garage in the back.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Brick brick exterior.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Also, how do you have a video? Ah? They got
- 23:43Speaker 1: a video of this man handing this kid the one
- 23:45Speaker 1: hundred dollars bill, and of course the man is black
- 23:48Speaker 1: and the other man next to him is in a hoodie.
- 23:50Speaker 1: So they're trying to be like, oh, these negroes robbed
- 23:53Speaker 1: are sweet baby white boy? Yeah? See, this is why,
- 23:56Speaker 1: this is why all lives matter and why we gotta
- 23:58Speaker 1: make America great again. I can't even sell fifty cent
- 24:01Speaker 1: lemonade without.
- 24:01Speaker 2: The negro And you're gonna give us two hundred fifty,
- 24:04Speaker 2: why don't we raise it to five hundred dollars for
- 24:05Speaker 2: a little more pain and suffering.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Bro, it's about to get wilder. So two fifty was
- 24:10Speaker 1: their goal, right, But they got this picture of these
- 24:12Speaker 1: menacing niggas and their fake money and I can't even
- 24:17Speaker 1: see them and the sweet baby boy with the riches
- 24:20Speaker 1: dispenser haircut. And when I got the one isn't a hoodie?
- 24:23Speaker 1: They got him? Look out tell us suspicih And part
- 24:27Speaker 1: of me wonders like, Bro, did they give you a
- 24:29Speaker 1: fake hundred? Or did you make this shit up? And
- 24:31Speaker 1: here's why I'm gonna say this because I'm gonna keep reading.
- 24:34Speaker 1: So the worst part of it all is that the
- 24:38Speaker 1: GoFundMe raised a whole twenty three thousand dollars. I already
- 24:45Speaker 1: know this child is going to be the most entitled man,
- 24:47Speaker 1: and I am not here for it. We stand the
- 24:51Speaker 1: scammer who got his eighty five dollars, but also hate
- 24:55Speaker 1: that it led to a kid getting twenty three thousand
- 24:57Speaker 1: dollars for doing absolutely nothing.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I need twenty three thousand dollars right now.
- 25:04Speaker 1: We all need twenty three thousand dollars.
- 25:05Speaker 2: What's the lesson there?
- 25:06Speaker 1: What does an unemployed baby need twenty three thousand dollars for?
- 25:10Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
- 25:10Speaker 1: You like a medium baby? He not quite a whole infant.
- 25:14Speaker 1: It's giving eights And.
- 25:15Speaker 2: You're not showing the picture right because I don't think
- 25:17Speaker 2: that child's going to go to college.
- 25:19Speaker 1: I mean, look, they got a two car garage. She
- 25:21Speaker 1: probably gonna get into it institutionship, that's true, you know
- 25:23Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But twenty three grand is excessive, And
- 25:29Speaker 1: I mean I get it. It went viral. And that's
- 25:31Speaker 1: the thing about GoFundMe, Like there used to be go funmees.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I remember one that popped off was a girl who
- 25:35Speaker 1: wanted to go to All Star Weekend but she couldn't
- 25:37Speaker 1: afford like the flight and the hotel and stuff, and
- 25:39Speaker 1: she was a baddie, and so people gave her thousands
- 25:42Speaker 1: of dollars to go to All Star Weekend. And I
- 25:43Speaker 1: was like, yeah, why not, She's being honest, Yeah, like
- 25:46Speaker 1: go fund me. Just doys, go fund me. They don't
- 25:47Speaker 1: say you gotta go fund my insurance or my medical
- 25:50Speaker 1: bills or my hardship, which honestly those obviously get the
- 25:53Speaker 1: most traction. But if you got some bullshit and you
- 25:55Speaker 1: put on go fund me and people want to throw
- 25:56Speaker 1: you a coin, I'm not mad at that.
- 25:58Speaker 2: I don't want to say the person. I don't think
- 26:00Speaker 2: we even known, But like I know someone that like
- 26:03Speaker 2: broke their leg and like tried to raise like twenty
- 26:05Speaker 2: thousand dollars and I think they got like two grand.
- 26:08Speaker 1: So that's where I'm like, did they sell the broken
- 26:13Speaker 1: legs story?
- 26:13Speaker 2: Oh, they had a broken leg.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Now these days, you got to stand out on go
- 26:16Speaker 1: fund me. You got to do a TikTok dance with
- 26:18Speaker 1: your broken leg. You need several videos and photos of
- 26:20Speaker 1: you in the hospital, hold in today's newspaper, like you
- 26:22Speaker 1: really got to give the girls a story. And then
- 26:25Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we'll give you our money because this
- 26:27Speaker 1: is fun. But I mean, I'm not against car out
- 26:30Speaker 1: funding and honestly, it wasn't a scam and also doesn't
- 26:32Speaker 1: go fund me take a cut.
- 26:34Speaker 2: But like, yeah it does. I don't know how much
- 26:36Speaker 2: it takes.
- 26:37Speaker 1: So maybe that's why they up to two fifty so
- 26:38Speaker 1: they could make sure they.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Got but maybe, yeah, okay, that makes more sense.
- 26:42Speaker 1: But then it went viral because they were like, look
- 26:43Speaker 1: at these menacing negroes. Did they stole from a little
- 26:46Speaker 1: white child. It's not all that's happening in America these days.
- 26:49Speaker 1: It's just menacing negro stealing from white people. So you know,
- 26:52Speaker 1: they it was I fuck, I fuck with it.
- 26:56Speaker 2: You you're bro. Whatever happened here.
- 26:59Speaker 1: I am not pro it. I but scam wise on
- 27:03Speaker 1: its own, not about scam.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Oh it was an amazing scam. Yeah, like I'm thinking about,
- 27:08Speaker 2: you know, seeing if I can do something about it.
- 27:09Speaker 2: I don't think people really care if I get, you.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Know, true change, you don't know, just have me in
- 27:14Speaker 1: the background, like as taking the photo as the menacing
- 27:17Speaker 1: negro giving you one hundred dollars bill, and then they'll
- 27:20Speaker 1: be like, yes, she's a witch and you'll get all
- 27:22Speaker 1: the money. Let's do it. You want twenty three thousand
- 27:24Speaker 1: dollars less work?
- 27:25Speaker 2: Did they give any of it to charity?
- 27:27Speaker 1: No?
- 27:28Speaker 2: Okay, well I would have.
- 27:30Speaker 1: And oh the Instagram caption on this it says the
- 27:33Speaker 1: eleven year old boy selling lemonade was scammed after being
- 27:36Speaker 1: given a one hundred dollars before finding out that the
- 27:38Speaker 1: cash was fake. The scammer purchased a glass of lemonade
- 27:40Speaker 1: from Jeremy with a fight hundred dollars bill and requested
- 27:42Speaker 1: that the boy give him exact change Jeremy can only give.
- 27:45Speaker 1: It's basically everything we know. So they're just putting it
- 27:48Speaker 1: out there. And then like they did a pit collage
- 27:50Speaker 1: of this gorgeous lemonade stand that says you don't need
- 27:53Speaker 1: a lemonade stand because it's way too fancy, and then
- 27:56Speaker 1: also the menacing black people, and then the little white
- 27:59Speaker 1: boy with Richard Spencer.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Starter pack lemonade. Sam looked like it like went under
- 28:03Speaker 2: an hd TV like renovation.
- 28:05Speaker 1: It looks like that.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like they separated.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Its like oh my god, this is so much better
- 28:12Speaker 1: than the table we had before, Like itlaa is a
- 28:14Speaker 1: real wo yeah, this is decorated.
- 28:18Speaker 2: It's the core.
- 28:19Speaker 1: They have a princess sign, like did y'all go to Kinkos?
- 28:22Speaker 2: Like what I remember my sister tried to do this
- 28:24Speaker 2: and she just put like a blanket on a table
- 28:26Speaker 2: with like a jug of lemonade that just looked like
- 28:28Speaker 2: she was selling piss or something, and like she spilled
- 28:31Speaker 2: it right away and then she's like, I'm done with this,
- 28:33Speaker 2: like and this is just like the.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Most Yeah that's She's like, all I'm good. Honestly, though,
- 28:41Speaker 1: elimonade stand like this, I'm not buying from it. It's
- 28:44Speaker 1: too nice. I need to see the struggle behind the limitade.
- 28:48Speaker 1: I need to see that you were squeezing it yourself.
- 28:49Speaker 1: The lemonade too yellow, so it's giving store bot.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I want the lemonade, like the
- 28:54Speaker 2: lemonade sign to be misspelled. Yeah, maybe like a backwards
- 28:58Speaker 2: e like oh yeah, you're trying.
- 28:59Speaker 1: To help you yeah yeah, yeah, no, it's it's a
- 29:03Speaker 1: note for me on the lemonade stand, not the scam.
- 29:05Speaker 2: I'm also just not buying products from children.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Hell no, kids are dirty, Okay, you know that's all
- 29:10Speaker 1: they do. They breathe on each other, look at each other,
- 29:12Speaker 1: and then collect snails and roll the pole. Dizzy. Oh
- 29:15Speaker 1: they're they're of the earth.
- 29:16Speaker 2: You sound one hundred years old. But yeah, no.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Kids, pet rocks, Yeah no kids.
- 29:23Speaker 2: So they doing these days, Chris Cross apple sauce. You
- 29:25Speaker 2: know what they're doing.
- 29:26Speaker 1: We know what they're up to. Run and we are back,
- 29:33Speaker 1: and it's time for historic hoodwinks. This is where I
- 29:35Speaker 1: will regale Josh with a famous concaper group of criminals.
- 29:39Speaker 1: We'll see if we like them, We'll see if we
- 29:40Speaker 1: hate them. I'm gonna note up top. Most of the
- 29:42Speaker 1: research comes directly from David Grant's The New Yorker article
- 29:46Speaker 1: The Cameleon. Uh So, just if y'all want to get
- 29:50Speaker 1: even deeper into this, check out David Grant stuff. He's
- 29:53Speaker 1: a writer, he wrote for The New Yorker. We always
- 29:55Speaker 1: it'll be in the footnotes, guys, on any platform that
- 29:58Speaker 1: you're looking at, so you can just click on the link.
- 30:00Speaker 1: We gives the credit here we're not scamming the writers.
- 30:02Speaker 1: So to start, could Wing, one of the most infamous
- 30:06Speaker 1: impostors in the world, pretended to be other people, not
- 30:09Speaker 1: for money or material exploitation, but because he wanted a
- 30:13Speaker 1: loving home with a family. Oh that's sweet movie. The
- 30:19Speaker 1: Chameleon of Nons to some, Peter Pan, not his Peter Pan.
- 30:25Speaker 1: To others what he went by Peter Pant And everybody
- 30:29Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, that's fine, that's the name people.
- 30:30Speaker 2: Have, Like, bro, he wasn't he went by Peter Pan.
- 30:34Speaker 1: He was known as Nons to some and Peter Pan
- 30:37Speaker 1: toa us. Okay, I mean, if you guys scammed by
- 30:40Speaker 1: Peter Pan, then I'm already on his side. But we'll
- 30:42Speaker 1: see if we stay that way. So the serial imposter
- 30:45Speaker 1: took on almost five hundred identities over the course of
- 30:49Speaker 1: his scamming career. That's a long career. Gotta put you
- 30:52Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I'm on us and listen,
- 30:53Speaker 1: when you die, we put you in the Scamming Memorial
- 30:56Speaker 1: because what a great loss. So wait, why put him
- 30:58Speaker 1: on as an You.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Can do five hundred grea, that's true, that's true.
- 31:01Speaker 1: I mean you can get it spicy, right, He missed
- 31:03Speaker 1: his calling, Lauren, Lauren, call Peter Pan. Because he's got
- 31:07Speaker 1: he's got the characters.
- 31:08Speaker 2: People get on with three characters, he's got five hundred.
- 31:10Speaker 1: So on May third, two thousand and five, a scared,
- 31:13Speaker 1: shivering teenage boy unknown age arrived at a government child
- 31:17Speaker 1: welfare office near western Pyrenees of France. Uh Pyrenees, say
- 31:24Speaker 1: more French orones? So this lonely, this small government child.
- 31:29Speaker 1: He shows up with one friends. He had no money
- 31:32Speaker 1: and no possessions beyond an ID and a cell phone.
- 31:36Speaker 1: And we got a picture of him right here. It's
- 31:38Speaker 1: not giving. I guess teenager.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Does Peter Pan?
- 31:42Speaker 1: I think this is Peter Pan.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Then they just like photoshop him to that river.
- 31:47Speaker 1: I feel like he might be at that river.
- 31:50Speaker 2: I don't know. He's killing me.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Fit, isn't giving, like destitute.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Great jaw line. Yeah, I wish I had that.
- 32:00Speaker 1: How far we're on your side, Peter Pan. So his
- 32:03Speaker 1: ID said his name was Francisco Hernandez Fernandez. All right,
- 32:06Speaker 1: so much rhyming now, Francisco Hernandez Fernandez, so salial, and
- 32:12Speaker 1: that he was born on December thirteenth, nineteen eighty nine,
- 32:15Speaker 1: in Ethpania, in Spain. He said he was in a
- 32:19Speaker 1: car accident that left him in a coma for several
- 32:21Speaker 1: weeks and his parents and brother dead. When he woke up.
- 32:25Speaker 1: He was sent to live with an abusive uncle and
- 32:28Speaker 1: eventually ran away to France. Francisco wore long sleeves, long pants,
- 32:32Speaker 1: and hats to cover the scars and burns that he
- 32:35Speaker 1: received in the accident. Eventually, he made friends with another boy, Raphael,
- 32:39Speaker 1: and auditioned for the school talent show. During the auditions,
- 32:42Speaker 1: Francisco reportedly performed an uncanny lip sync dance to Michael
- 32:46Speaker 1: Jackson's Unbreakable. His music teacher recalled, he didn't just look
- 32:50Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson, he was Michael Jackson.
- 32:55Speaker 2: He became him.
- 32:56Speaker 1: So Francisco soon became one of the most popular kids
- 33:00Speaker 1: in school and was well loved by his peers. However,
- 33:03Speaker 1: an ill time television program soon brought his life to
- 33:06Speaker 1: a halt. Damn already the life getting halted.
- 33:10Speaker 2: This is this is reading like a fairy tale.
- 33:13Speaker 1: So one month after Francisco walked into the government building
- 33:16Speaker 1: a lost orphan, an administrator at his school reported that
- 33:20Speaker 1: she had just seen a program about one of the
- 33:22Speaker 1: world's most infamous serial impostors Frederick Bourden excuse me, Boordawn,
- 33:28Speaker 1: a thirty year old Frenchman who impersonated children. Now wait
- 33:33Speaker 1: a damn minute. All right, we're not on your side
- 33:38Speaker 1: no more. That was quick, I was real quick. We
- 33:41Speaker 1: had to jump ship drag. I don't know her. I
- 33:45Speaker 1: don't know her, Tinkerbell maybe Peter Pan, I don't know her.
- 33:48Speaker 1: What you are impersonating children for love? Well, we don't
- 33:55Speaker 1: know yet preface in the beginning, but I don't know.
- 33:58Speaker 1: So you asked school making friends with youth?
- 34:01Speaker 2: And how old is he?
- 34:03Speaker 1: Thirty year old?
- 34:06Speaker 2: Okay, who's buying that?
- 34:09Speaker 1: I mean we saw the photo. We thought he was
- 34:11Speaker 1: a teenager.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Oh, so he's going He's not like I'm in like
- 34:14Speaker 2: first he's not doing Hobby Gilmore. He's not like I'm
- 34:16Speaker 2: in first grade.
- 34:17Speaker 1: No, he's not going to the third grade and being
- 34:18Speaker 1: like I'm a third grader. Okay, okay, read math and arithmetic. Now, yeah,
- 34:24Speaker 1: he's going for like high school age. We're in Hollywood.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Most actors that you've seen in television up until recently,
- 34:32Speaker 1: we're like thirty year olds playing high school students, like
- 34:36Speaker 1: Paul Walker when he was in that whatever teen movie
- 34:38Speaker 1: he was in was She's all that, Yeah, one of those,
- 34:41Speaker 1: or She's some something mean women. And then A Bed
- 34:46Speaker 1: and Prom Yeah one of those. Yeah, one of those
- 34:49Speaker 1: makeover a bed and prom movies. He was in it.
- 34:52Speaker 1: He had fully had a child at the time.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The cast of friends were supposed to be
- 34:56Speaker 2: twenty year olds or they were all like pushing forty.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Right, And it's like that sets up crazy expectations for
- 35:02Speaker 1: when you go to high school. If I saw this
- 35:03Speaker 1: thirty year old in high school, I probably wouldn't thought
- 35:05Speaker 1: nothing of it because I thought everybody in high school
- 35:07Speaker 1: was gonna have chest hair, and I thought they was
- 35:08Speaker 1: gonna have connecting beards. And I was so disappointed when
- 35:11Speaker 1: I came and I was like, y'all are bird chested
- 35:12Speaker 1: and bear faceted? Where y'all? Why are not adult men?
- 35:16Speaker 1: Why are the women not wearing heels? I wore heels,
- 35:19Speaker 1: And then I was I really thought I was supposed
- 35:20Speaker 1: to wear heels high scho I wore heels all the time.
- 35:22Speaker 2: And then I was like, nobody, can you like a
- 35:23Speaker 2: rolling back too? So it always looked like.
- 35:25Speaker 1: I thought I was coming from the airport, was coming
- 35:28Speaker 1: from the airport.
- 35:29Speaker 2: It's like this this young professional.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Listen, but that back good. Okay, check the bars, y'all,
- 35:34Speaker 1: get y'all. L seven's replaced, but whole got a good back,
- 35:37Speaker 1: what's up? And good knees because I rolled my backpack everywhere. Yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 1: people made fun of me about it. I don't care
- 35:43Speaker 1: because the back doing the Tina Belcher, this's back is.
- 35:46Speaker 2: I used to rub oil on my chest thinking hair
- 35:49Speaker 2: would come out of it. So the men were trying. Okay,
- 35:53Speaker 2: the men were trying.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Please don't say canola.
- 35:56Speaker 2: I mean vegetable oil. I didn't know. I didn't know
- 35:57Speaker 2: what I was doing. I was just trying stuff.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Now we're stimulating and she's just chipless.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Just there.
- 36:04Speaker 1: I do love a hairy chest, though. It's about seventy now.
- 36:08Speaker 2: When one dude O high school had that Patrick.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Now do you remember his name? That fast not everybody
- 36:13Speaker 1: being jealous of We're like, yeah, we went to the
- 36:15Speaker 1: locker room to shower, which, oh my god, the locker
- 36:17Speaker 1: rooms children are so nasty. This locker room smells so
- 36:20Speaker 1: fucking bad. I was like, y'all, we just did gym
- 36:22Speaker 1: wash your ass. Oh my god, there was a girl
- 36:25Speaker 1: in my locker room. I'm not gonna say her name
- 36:27Speaker 1: or anything near it, because you know, she's an adult.
- 36:28Speaker 1: She's a nice lady. But she used to like we
- 36:30Speaker 1: would have track practice, and then she had that I
- 36:33Speaker 1: cannot forget the smell. She had that victorious secret body
- 36:36Speaker 1: splash and instead of washing her ass, she would put
- 36:39Speaker 1: body splash all over and I was like, Sis, this
- 36:42Speaker 1: is no like now it's just sweet funk. I feel
- 36:44Speaker 1: like I was smelling a dead body.
- 36:46Speaker 2: It was, yeah, horrible. It's like gutta rose.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yeah, and we gotta we gotta teach the kids how
- 36:51Speaker 1: to do laundry child because who it was bad. So
- 36:55Speaker 1: this teacher. I was gonna call the teacher a hater,
- 36:57Speaker 1: but the teacher is not a hater because obviously this
- 36:58Speaker 1: is a thirty year old at school. And she was like,
- 37:01Speaker 1: wait a minute, I saw this thirty year old on
- 37:03Speaker 1: the news, like what's am So she concluded this is
- 37:06Speaker 1: what the teacher said. I swear to god, Bordan looks
- 37:10Speaker 1: exactly like Francisco Hernandez Fernandez, which, if you're gonna make
- 37:15Speaker 1: a fake name Hernandez Fernandez.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it sounds cool, but it sounds so fazz.
- 37:22Speaker 1: It sounds so make them up.
- 37:24Speaker 2: What like, sir, my name is Josh becas Hecks. It's like,
- 37:28Speaker 2: what are you doing?
- 37:30Speaker 1: Mostly, folks, what is this? Doctor Seuss? You got your
- 37:34Speaker 1: ship from the Rhymeen Dictionary.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Why would you do this?
- 37:36Speaker 1: And honestly, if somebody said her Nandas Fernandez was fake
- 37:38Speaker 1: and being a child, I'm gonna the name alone, I'm
- 37:41Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, you know, I was always curious
- 37:43Speaker 1: about hearing Fernandez Fernandez. So the principal called the police.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Damn y'all couldn't even take him into the office, and like, uh,
- 37:52Speaker 1: Francisco Hernandez Fernanda's we need you in the office. They
- 37:56Speaker 1: skipped so many steps immediately, like the authority, authorities handle it.
- 38:00Speaker 1: And so when they arrived, they immediately slammed for Cisco
- 38:03Speaker 1: against the wall and put him in handcuffs. See police,
- 38:07Speaker 1: we don't need all of that. Okay, Yeah, he's a
- 38:09Speaker 1: weird though he shouldn't have been around the children, Like,
- 38:12Speaker 1: for sure, get him out of there, arrest him. Do
- 38:14Speaker 1: you need to slam them up against the lockers? Does
- 38:15Speaker 1: he need to have like the locker dial code and
- 38:18Speaker 1: pressed in his cheek like I don't I feel it
- 38:20Speaker 1: feels aggressive?
- 38:22Speaker 2: Most cops are bullies from high school, so they're just
- 38:24Speaker 2: regaining the world.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Are these students who are just like, this is my time,
- 38:29Speaker 1: my time? So the principal call the police. The police
- 38:33Speaker 1: then roughed him up, put him in handcuffs. Right. Any
- 38:36Speaker 1: doubt that he was not in fact an orphan child's
- 38:38Speaker 1: was erased when his baseball cap fell off to reveal
- 38:42Speaker 1: not scars, but a receding hairline. He said, I gotta
- 38:51Speaker 1: weord this cap because of my fire scars. Literally it
- 38:54Speaker 1: was because that's the snake was balted thing. You ain't
- 38:57Speaker 1: never seen a ball in thirteen year olds.
- 38:59Speaker 2: The fire hit, the fires skipped over my face and
- 39:01Speaker 2: none to my front hairline.
- 39:04Speaker 1: And it also made several grays. Yeah, y'ah, he's seen
- 39:07Speaker 1: a premature grand ball to thirteen year rod. That's y'all.
- 39:10Speaker 1: That's discrimination. Yeah.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of Hernandas Frnanda's no, obviously, I'm
- 39:14Speaker 2: not making that up.
- 39:16Speaker 1: I'm Hernandez Fernandez, the bald grain thirteen year old is
- 39:22Speaker 1: so in an adult voice, Francisco said, I want a lawyer.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Sagas s Francisco was like talking to me, like, yeah, man,
- 39:29Speaker 1: it's me Francisco. I love Michael Jackson and I'm a kid.
- 39:32Speaker 1: And then the police post showed up. He's like, hey,
- 39:34Speaker 1: my god, I want a lawyer and I need to
- 39:36Speaker 1: tap in my four to one.
- 39:37Speaker 2: Kom pan Like who are you? I know my rights?
- 39:40Speaker 1: Right? Who is this girl? Mad with this? The Erry
- 39:42Speaker 1: White jumped out. Okay, So he was brought to police headquarters.
- 39:47Speaker 1: While there, he admitted that he was Frederick Baudine or
- 39:51Speaker 1: Bodan excuse me, and that he held dozens of identities
- 39:54Speaker 1: over the past fifteen years. Now, why are you giving
- 39:56Speaker 1: up extra shit? They just tells you about impersonating as
- 39:58Speaker 1: one school child. I'm not gonna get in and be like, okay,
- 40:00Speaker 1: so there's more no, no.
- 40:02Speaker 2: No, you have to stay on your ground. You have
- 40:04Speaker 2: to say that's all I'm giving.
- 40:05Speaker 1: You, right, Yeah, I pretended to be a child at
- 40:08Speaker 1: the school, and nobody noticed that I was parking in
- 40:10Speaker 1: the teacher park a lot every day.
- 40:13Speaker 2: People skipped over Hernandez Fernandez, all right, they skipped over
- 40:16Speaker 2: that part, which I thought was the most inventive part
- 40:18Speaker 2: of this whole scheme.
- 40:19Speaker 1: No one talks about that flag.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, one talks about how creative that was.
- 40:23Speaker 2: That's what he's hung up on. No one talks about that.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Oh so he did this over dozens of countries. What
- 40:28Speaker 1: was known and consistent is that he had almost always
- 40:32Speaker 1: played one character, that of an abused, abandoned child. He
- 40:36Speaker 1: was so skilled at becoming whoever he wanted. He had
- 40:38Speaker 1: convinced a doctor who examined him the previous year that
- 40:41Speaker 1: he was indeed a fourteen year old French boy.
- 40:44Speaker 2: I'm trying to think I've had physicals. How you do that?
- 40:47Speaker 2: I mean stuff?
- 40:49Speaker 1: He did look young. I don't know if he looked fourteen.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Can we put a photo of Fernandez Hernandez backup? We
- 40:54Speaker 1: need to analyze it was given child to me.
- 40:58Speaker 2: You gotta yeah, he he honestly looks like.
- 41:01Speaker 1: And he looks very gaune so like. But here he
- 41:06Speaker 1: has a full head of hair, so he must have
- 41:07Speaker 1: been latent on the scan. Well, I guess maybe the
- 41:10Speaker 1: hairline is like running away.
- 41:12Speaker 2: It's running away.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Yeah, the hairline about to have a start line at
- 41:16Speaker 1: the nape of the neck. Yeah, the hairline is running
- 41:20Speaker 1: running sprinting away from the apple.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Think that How do you fake that?
- 41:24Speaker 1: You wear a head every day? He was like, I
- 41:25Speaker 1: got to cover up my burns from.
- 41:27Speaker 2: From a doctor's appointment. You just call like sex, I've
- 41:30Speaker 2: never heard of. What do I even do? Where do
- 41:31Speaker 2: I put it? The doctor's like he's fourteen. It's just
- 41:36Speaker 2: like a really day.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Just because you're a doctored on me. You a good doctor.
- 41:41Speaker 1: People get through medicals.
- 41:42Speaker 2: I don't want push vitamins on me. He was trying
- 41:44Speaker 2: to push his own vitamins on me and pay like
- 41:46Speaker 2: fifteen ninet ninety nine to buy vitamins.
- 41:48Speaker 1: My dentists put me out some heart vitamins and it's
- 41:51Speaker 1: he said, cancer pressions taken or something. I started taking them.
- 41:54Speaker 1: See he gave in the first bottle free just fish oils. Yeah,
- 41:58Speaker 1: And I was like, this is my dentist. But whatever, man,
- 42:01Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat these.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be good for my heart. Okay, cool,
- 42:06Speaker 1: it's gonna cure to cancer. I don't have yet. Good
- 42:08Speaker 1: listen if you live long enough. So I'm just gonna
- 42:10Speaker 1: eat these. I'm gonna eat them whatever. So he has
- 42:15Speaker 1: done like so many identities over the past fifteen years,
- 42:17Speaker 1: through a dozen countries. What was no so we know
- 42:20Speaker 1: and it was consistent that he always put this one
- 42:22Speaker 1: character and that a doctor was like you good. You're fourteen.
- 42:26Speaker 1: It's giving pre popscent, the principal said of Francisco before
- 42:30Speaker 1: he left. Of course he lied, but what an actor.
- 42:33Speaker 1: I love that. You better give him his flowers. He
- 42:35Speaker 1: was like, Okay, yeah, he fooled us, but he was
- 42:38Speaker 1: very good at fooling.
- 42:39Speaker 2: Tip the cap. Yeah, damn you were good, Francisco.
- 42:42Speaker 1: You could have been the next Leonardo Dicaptriole.
- 42:44Speaker 2: I was just thinking, catch me if you can. I
- 42:46Speaker 2: was like, hey, we got you.
- 42:47Speaker 1: But bro, you should have been acting, acting as a
- 42:50Speaker 1: scam that I willingly participated, and you should have got involved, Francisco,
- 42:54Speaker 1: because if you got these kind of skills and people
- 42:56Speaker 1: are praising you, and honestly, the principal is gonna praise
- 42:58Speaker 1: him because he has to be like, how do y'all like?
- 43:00Speaker 1: Otherwise people gonna look at school and be like, how
- 43:02Speaker 1: did y'all let this grown ass nigge in here and
- 43:05Speaker 1: let him hang out with the children. So they have
- 43:07Speaker 1: to be like, he's the best actor. Merril could never.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Never can put that on your resume. What's like special skills?
- 43:12Speaker 2: I can dupe doctors into thinking I'm fourteen.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best. Huge, that's talent right there, talent's
- 43:18Speaker 1: jumping out. The prosecutor on his case said, in my
- 43:21Speaker 1: twenty two years on the job, I've never seen a
- 43:22Speaker 1: case like it. Usually people con for money. His profits
- 43:25Speaker 1: seem to have been purely emotional. But Frederick's own story
- 43:29Speaker 1: may have been the basis for the fictional traumas he'd
- 43:31Speaker 1: replay over the years. So who is the chameleon? The
- 43:34Speaker 1: chameleon from nods as was tattooed on his right forearm.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Was born Frederick Pierre Bordon in Paris on June thirteenth,
- 43:44Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four. His mother was Gallaine, which that name
- 43:51Speaker 1: has now been soiled. I feel like we never go
- 43:52Speaker 1: see another Glaine Elaine Maxwell. All right, yeah, it's like,
- 43:57Speaker 1: ain't nobody going to any baby Glayne no more so
- 44:00Speaker 1: they can be involved in sex crimes.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, take the name.
- 44:05Speaker 1: So Glaine Boardin, a poor eighteen year old, had not
- 44:08Speaker 1: told his father, an Algerian factor worker, that she was pregnant,
- 44:12Speaker 1: So she got pregnant. She ain't saying nothing to the
- 44:14Speaker 1: baby daddy. Gallaine raised Frederick until he was two and
- 44:18Speaker 1: a half, after which he rehomed like by child services,
- 44:21Speaker 1: with her parents so child Services came and picked him
- 44:24Speaker 1: up after two years, two and a half years, and
- 44:26Speaker 1: then they let him go to basically his grandparents. When
- 44:30Speaker 1: he was five, he moved to a small village where
- 44:32Speaker 1: he became the village outcast. Not the village outcast. I
- 44:38Speaker 1: guess it's a village. So they gotta hate somebody.
- 44:39Speaker 2: These people are proactive. They're like they just jump. It's like, hey,
- 44:42Speaker 2: you know you're the village o cast.
- 44:43Speaker 1: I mean pickings are slim. To ostracize somebody, you gotta
- 44:46Speaker 1: have a village out there, we have we gotta have
- 44:48Speaker 1: somebody to hate on. Yeah, only fifty people live here.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Issue get to you, so sorry. In school, he told
- 44:54Speaker 1: stories about himself to explain his being fatherlessness and foreign looking. Okay,
- 45:00Speaker 1: so this village is not giving poc.
- 45:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:04Speaker 1: He said that his father was never around because he
- 45:07Speaker 1: was a British secret agent. As he grew older, his
- 45:10Speaker 1: stories became wilder and increasingly misbehaved. He stole from neighbors
- 45:15Speaker 1: and acted out in class, to the point where at
- 45:17Speaker 1: twelve he was sent to live at a private facility.
- 45:20Speaker 1: And we have a private facility photo of this for
- 45:24Speaker 1: juveniles in nons So he was sent to this castle
- 45:29Speaker 1: looking house. It definitely looked like Miss Trench Bull up
- 45:32Speaker 1: in there. And they got a pokey. Yes, this given
- 45:35Speaker 1: they got a pokey.
- 45:36Speaker 2: You know, it looks like you got climb bushes just
- 45:38Speaker 2: to get to the door. Unless I'm missing an injury
- 45:41Speaker 2: a way that I don't.
- 45:42Speaker 1: Say, yeah, because the bushes are wrapped around Okay, dude
- 45:45Speaker 1: to it is highlighting a stare in the corner.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Okay, but they didn't let him take those stairs.
- 45:49Speaker 1: No, they had to climb the bushes because they're juveniles.
- 45:52Speaker 1: History grew bigger still. Frederick pretended to be an amnesiac
- 45:55Speaker 1: and intentionally got lost in the streets. So after he
- 46:00Speaker 1: turned sixteen and nineteen ninety, Frederick ran away. When he
- 46:03Speaker 1: was made to move into yet another home. Okay, he's sixteen,
- 46:07Speaker 1: He's like, I'm sick of these homes. You know that
- 46:09Speaker 1: shit can be so shape, Like the foster care system
- 46:11Speaker 1: in every country is just a weird, shady thing. Yeah,
- 46:15Speaker 1: a lot were bad actors involved.
- 46:17Speaker 2: And I like his origin story so far.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I'm right, you might want his back. Fer Rico, so
- 46:22Speaker 1: he hitched. I don't know though, because mom was just
- 46:23Speaker 1: hanging out with kids. You're thirty, the kid par are
- 46:26Speaker 1: bothering me. I hope you ain't had a little girlfriend
- 46:28Speaker 1: at the high school. Yeah, that's what's bothering me.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Or even if you were like leaving my boyfriend Liken,
- 46:33Speaker 2: you leading someone on?
- 46:34Speaker 1: Yeah nah, and you were popular? What does that mean?
- 46:36Speaker 1: He was going to high school parties, he was hanging
- 46:38Speaker 1: out with kids. Yeah, no, you're weird. So after he
- 46:41Speaker 1: turned sixteen, he ran away. He hitched hiked to Paris,
- 46:44Speaker 1: a scared, essentially orphaned teenager. Thus his first character was born.
- 46:48Speaker 1: So the first time he did it, he was sixteen
- 46:49Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, yes, the girls are living
- 46:52Speaker 1: for me.
- 46:52Speaker 2: Started young.
- 46:54Speaker 1: He approached a police officer and told him that he
- 46:55Speaker 1: was a lost birsh team named Jimmy Sayles. These names,
- 47:00Speaker 1: Frederico's just like that's this. It's giving missus doubt fire.
- 47:04Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like I'm sitting here, like, my name
- 47:06Speaker 1: is Lacy computer microphone. No. So, Frederick remembers, I dreamed
- 47:13Speaker 1: they would send me to England, where I always imagine
- 47:16Speaker 1: a life more beautiful. But he had discovered his formula
- 47:20Speaker 1: and began perfecting his technique, hitchhiking across Europe looking for
- 47:25Speaker 1: the perfect shelter. He'd repeat the game over and over,
- 47:29Speaker 1: often volunteering his true identity when police or caretakers came
- 47:32Speaker 1: close to discovering the truth before moving on. So when
- 47:34Speaker 1: they were like you bro, you your hairline receiving always
- 47:38Speaker 1: the hair like, damn right, it's okay, I'm Frederica.
- 47:44Speaker 2: Okay, fine, yeah, I feel.
- 47:46Speaker 1: Like they come into like kissing good night, and they're like,
- 47:48Speaker 1: why does Ferderico always have the head on when he
- 47:50Speaker 1: goes to bed.
- 47:51Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like a comfort things, right. We
- 47:53Speaker 2: don't know where he came from.
- 47:55Speaker 1: Where he came from.
- 47:55Speaker 2: He's got burned, He's got burns that you haven't seen ever.
- 47:59Speaker 2: He keeps talking about how a doctor's approved that he's fourteen.
- 48:03Speaker 1: He keeps showing everyone in the doctor's note he says
- 48:05Speaker 1: that he's fourteen. I'm like, that's a weird thing for
- 48:07Speaker 1: a fourteen year old.
- 48:08Speaker 2: To do, but let's just let him live. I don't know. So.
- 48:11Speaker 1: On June thirteenth, nineteen ninety two, after he poses more
- 48:15Speaker 1: than a dozen fictional children, Frederick turned eighteen. As Frederick
- 48:18Speaker 1: assumed more and more elaborate identities to conceal his age,
- 48:22Speaker 1: he tried to kill off one of his real one
- 48:25Speaker 1: as he was now an adult posing as a teenager.
- 48:28Speaker 1: So one day the mayor of the town he grew
- 48:30Speaker 1: up and received a call from German police that his
- 48:33Speaker 1: body had been found in Munich. So he tried to
- 48:35Speaker 1: kill off his real identity. Yeah, he called his hometown.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Was like, hello, it is me German. I found body
- 48:43Speaker 1: of Fredericle. He's definitely dead and definitely fourteen.
- 48:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Actually you don't need the last part. He's just definitely dead.
- 48:50Speaker 2: He's deaf, He's gone, I'm dead. I'm dead, sir.
- 48:56Speaker 1: Okay, look, you gotta cover your tracks. He was like,
- 48:59Speaker 1: I gotta be a cue for much longer.
- 49:00Speaker 2: This is miss doutfire on speed. You say, twelve characters
- 49:03Speaker 2: in this.
- 49:03Speaker 1: Town settle into one character Frederico, especially Jimmy Sao. Well,
- 49:08Speaker 1: Jimmy s I feel like Ju sales sales cars, Hernandez Fernando. Yeah, oh,
- 49:14Speaker 1: we were struggling. So his family waited for a coffin,
- 49:18Speaker 1: but it never arrived. By the mid nineties, Frederick had
- 49:21Speaker 1: accumulated a reputation and a criminal record. By France. Now
- 49:25Speaker 1: they're like, Frederick is out here doing crime. He was
- 49:28Speaker 1: even invited onto the French television show Everything Is Possible
- 49:32Speaker 1: to tell his story. He garnered so much sympathy with
- 49:35Speaker 1: his tail, just wanting to love and a home, that
- 49:38Speaker 1: the producers of the show offered him a job in
- 49:41Speaker 1: the newsroom, but he ran.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Off, why whoa so you could.
- 49:46Speaker 1: Have been legit?
- 49:47Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Like nah na, I like lyon no, no, no, no, I
- 49:50Speaker 1: don't want to tell a job. So I gotta come
- 49:53Speaker 1: to work every day.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Job. I have ten jobs. I have ten personality job was.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Lying to people then feed me for free? What do
- 50:01Speaker 1: you mean I haven't fully employed right now?
- 50:03Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Jim Groceries? Is work at
- 50:05Speaker 2: the grocery stocker?
- 50:08Speaker 1: You know Tommy Spatchuelo? Yes, with my my family, who
- 50:13Speaker 1: are cooks?
- 50:13Speaker 2: You know?
- 50:14Speaker 1: Like what? So Frederick becomes an American child in October
- 50:18Speaker 1: nineteenninety seven, Frederick, now twenty three, was in the middle
- 50:21Speaker 1: of a gig when he was told by a child
- 50:23Speaker 1: welfare judge in Spain that he had twenty four hours
- 50:25Speaker 1: to prove that he was a teenager. I love a
- 50:27Speaker 1: judge having to be like, all right, you got to
- 50:29Speaker 1: prove to us that you're a teenager. Mister sir again,
- 50:32Speaker 1: how but how how they gonna check your bones?
- 50:36Speaker 2: All right, here's my journal entries like that. That's pretty angsty.
- 50:39Speaker 1: Yeah, here's my TikTok account. Look at how many dances
- 50:42Speaker 1: I'm doing.
- 50:43Speaker 2: Look at all these dances.
- 50:44Speaker 1: I'm definitely a teenage. If he could not, she'd take
- 50:48Speaker 1: his fingerprints, which would match the file he already had
- 50:50Speaker 1: with Inner Poll, and he'd be subsequently facing prison as
- 50:54Speaker 1: an adult. So she was like, I don't understand why
- 50:56Speaker 1: they were like, look, we either do check your fingerprints
- 50:58Speaker 1: or you can prove that you're a child. I just
- 51:00Speaker 1: feel like we should just jumped to check the fingerprints.
- 51:02Speaker 2: I mean, prove your child's more fun for them.
- 51:04Speaker 1: Maybe it's like a longer process. Yeah, y'all are waisting taxpayers.
- 51:08Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's like an America's got talent. But prove you're a.
- 51:10Speaker 1: Child, very a child who comes up with a banking
- 51:13Speaker 1: and a diaper. What are we doing? Just run his fingerprints?
- 51:15Speaker 1: Bashed the fuck so face with his choice, and unable
- 51:19Speaker 1: to run away. Instead of creating a new identity this time,
- 51:22Speaker 1: he stole one.
- 51:23Speaker 2: Of course, he called.
- 51:24Speaker 1: The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in Alexandria,
- 51:28Speaker 1: Virginia to look for a real identity and found Nicholas Barclay,
- 51:32Speaker 1: who had been reported missing in San Antonio on June thirteenth,
- 51:34Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four at the age of thirteen, and roughly
- 51:37Speaker 1: matched his physical description. This is so fucked up because also, like,
- 51:41Speaker 1: if you're gonna claim the identity of a missing child,
- 51:43Speaker 1: look at the missing child. They have similar jaw liyes,
- 51:46Speaker 1: not just going through and finding a similar jaw line.
- 51:48Speaker 1: And the child was missing young. So this is one
- 51:51Speaker 1: of those aged up things that we talk about that
- 51:55Speaker 1: he would be now thirty five, and you know they
- 51:57Speaker 1: use them age up machines that they're like and honestly,
- 52:01Speaker 1: has that technology ever been tested. Have we recovered a
- 52:04Speaker 1: missing child and then been like, look at they aged
- 52:06Speaker 1: a photo? Do they look exactly like what we did?
- 52:09Speaker 1: Or age of people scamming?
- 52:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a made up American job. It's like it's
- 52:14Speaker 2: I also think the people that draw, like, what are
- 52:16Speaker 2: the because also.
- 52:17Speaker 1: It feels like they always be like, I don't want
- 52:20Speaker 1: to say something fun though, let me just phrase this
- 52:22Speaker 1: in the right way. It feels like whenever they do
- 52:24Speaker 1: the age up they never make them like savor. Yeah,
- 52:28Speaker 1: they never make them not attractive. They never like I
- 52:31Speaker 1: don't I don't want to describe things that make people
- 52:32Speaker 1: in attraction because I don't want to hit. Yeah, they
- 52:37Speaker 1: always make them like they would immediately be cast on
- 52:39Speaker 1: the c WO. Like as soon as we find this
- 52:42Speaker 1: missing child, they are going to be in a Marble
- 52:44Speaker 1: movie abs out, you know like.
- 52:46Speaker 2: What because they want us to find them.
- 52:48Speaker 1: And if they're not sexy, they're not these kids were
- 52:52Speaker 1: these kids.
- 52:56Speaker 2: Ain't looking look cause America.
- 52:59Speaker 1: Oh, oh, you're right, that's why they do it. They
- 53:02Speaker 1: try to give him you know what, just trying to
- 53:04Speaker 1: y'all age up illustrators, trying to scam the American public,
- 53:07Speaker 1: because you're right, we ain't looking for no kids who
- 53:09Speaker 1: ain't cute, and we definitely ain't looking for no adults
- 53:12Speaker 1: who ugly likely asked to stay where they had abducted. No.
- 53:18Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's definitely it.
- 53:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 53:20Speaker 1: And if you've been missing since you were thirteen at
- 53:24Speaker 1: your age, that's the thirty five Oh baby, that's that's
- 53:28Speaker 1: such a good game. There's seventy two hours. It's looking
- 53:30Speaker 1: bleak if you're missing, like.
- 53:32Speaker 2: Oh my mom would hold up see that's why I
- 53:34Speaker 2: don't like this, because my mom would be like, he's
- 53:36Speaker 2: a hostel. Oh yeah, should be looking through riverbeds. She'd
- 53:39Speaker 2: be like, he's still out here. He has to be,
- 53:43Speaker 2: he has to It's my whole life revolves around this. Damn.
- 53:47Speaker 1: That's a shout out to your mind. I know. Yeah,
- 53:49Speaker 1: because maybe that's why I shouldn't have children, because I
- 53:51Speaker 1: feel like I would be pragmatic. I'm like, damn, I
- 53:53Speaker 1: can't believe I lost one because that's embarrassing.
- 53:55Speaker 2: Time to make another one.
- 53:56Speaker 1: But I'd be like, sit, how we can call up?
- 54:00Speaker 2: Like what Like, ma'am, it's been forty hours.
- 54:03Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how long they said we was going. Look,
- 54:06Speaker 1: I have to catch it fight y'all give me an
- 54:08Speaker 1: empty CASKI from costco chat you know, don't even spend
- 54:11Speaker 1: the money on the cask. And we just gonna get
- 54:12Speaker 1: some flowers from the walk Gerens and we're gonna have
- 54:14Speaker 1: a vigil. Y'all got candles that we get candles at. Yeah,
- 54:18Speaker 1: that's so fucked. We got a missing job out there.
- 54:20Speaker 1: I'm joking, like, keep looking for your kids. Sometimes they
- 54:23Speaker 1: be turning up. But in this amount of time frame,
- 54:27Speaker 1: he was probably making a safe bet that like he
- 54:29Speaker 1: could assume this identity and never be challenged.
- 54:32Speaker 2: It's a good scam.
- 54:33Speaker 1: But also you're insane to call the Center for National
- 54:36Speaker 1: Missing Children and be like, oh, y'all got over there.
- 54:39Speaker 1: Let me see the list, because I think I saw one,
- 54:41Speaker 1: and then he just looks for his doppel ganger. He's like, yee,
- 54:44Speaker 1: I saw that with me, actually, Nathaniel Barclay, Yeah, that's me.
- 54:48Speaker 2: Do I have a middle name?
- 54:49Speaker 1: What's my social I don't know that because if they
- 54:51Speaker 1: had snatched me and they didn't bring the social security card,
- 54:54Speaker 1: so I don't know, don't.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Wry, I'll make went up Nicholas Barclay smarkle A. It's
- 55:01Speaker 2: just like I don't need it. I got it.
- 55:03Speaker 1: No, cool, we gonna run with it. Thank you so much. No,
- 55:06Speaker 1: don't call me back. Don't put this on the news. Okay.
- 55:09Speaker 1: So the next day he had a US passport and
- 55:11Speaker 1: a ticket to San Antonio. This man is a genius.
- 55:14Speaker 1: The real Nicholas had been gone for three years and
- 55:17Speaker 1: it was unknown how he disappeared. Nicholas and Frederick had
- 55:20Speaker 1: similar stories, which allowed Frederick to easily slip into playing
- 55:23Speaker 1: this role, not Frederick die his hair blonde.
- 55:26Speaker 2: Whoa, that's him. Oh my goodness, he.
- 55:30Speaker 1: Said, let me run to the Walgreens and get some clarialsus. Okay,
- 55:32Speaker 1: because we're about to be Nicholas Barclay, Barclay, barklayar bark
- 55:37Speaker 1: sparklay Okay. Nicholas and Frederick they had the similar stories, right.
- 55:41Speaker 1: Both of their mothers were unreliable and their fathers were
- 55:44Speaker 1: not a part of their lives. Nicholas was also a
- 55:47Speaker 1: diehard Michael Jackson fan and was a popular boy at
- 55:50Speaker 1: school who often got in trouble for his explosive behavior. Wow,
- 55:55Speaker 1: he was like, this is my reincarnation. Okay, So what
- 55:58Speaker 1: do you call the hotline for end your children? Was?
- 56:01Speaker 1: He also like, what did I like? I like thriller? Okay, bet, bet, bet?
- 56:05Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 56:06Speaker 1: Is my dad around? No? Okay, awesome, awesome, awesome. No, no, no, no,
- 56:09Speaker 1: we don't need to contact him. He don't need to
- 56:10Speaker 1: take time to be a father today.
- 56:12Speaker 2: She did like his agent like looking for work, like,
- 56:14Speaker 2: what do we got? What do we got?
- 56:16Speaker 1: Show character description? Okay, what's the breakdown?
- 56:19Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 56:20Speaker 1: I love honestly, I want to I want to root
- 56:24Speaker 1: for you, Frederico. But the hanging out with the kids.
- 56:26Speaker 1: Party is still bumping me. So but you know, I
- 56:29Speaker 1: like all of this okay, but not the kid's part,
- 56:31Speaker 1: so we still can't fuck with you. So things went
- 56:33Speaker 1: well for the first couple of months, and Frederick came
- 56:35Speaker 1: to settle in with a family that's so desperately wanted
- 56:38Speaker 1: to be his prodigal son. So I got a family
- 56:43Speaker 1: and they're like, we want to take some kids and
- 56:45Speaker 1: get a kid check. But also we want to it's
- 56:48Speaker 1: given church member. It's even like we're gonna bring our
- 56:51Speaker 1: thirty year old child baby to church and be like, look,
- 56:54Speaker 1: we adopted this blond baby.
- 56:56Speaker 2: Chat you get to go to heaven quicker, right, We
- 56:59Speaker 2: got to skip the line.
- 57:00Speaker 1: If y'all done for God? God said, what have you
- 57:02Speaker 1: dump on me? And he said, oh, the kid, like
- 57:06Speaker 1: we did this for good, fast fast I heaven, you know,
- 57:10Speaker 1: and I love that for them stairway to heaven. They're
- 57:12Speaker 1: taking the elevator. Okay, y'all pictures are taking the stare
- 57:16Speaker 1: love that. So eventually he couldn't take the pressure and
- 57:19Speaker 1: was suspended from school when he stopped attending class. Well, yeah,
- 57:23Speaker 1: you've been going to school for goddamn what thirty years.
- 57:26Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, could you imagine?
- 57:28Speaker 1: Like you imagine I still have PTSD from college and
- 57:31Speaker 1: it feels insane to say that, but I will wake
- 57:34Speaker 1: up out of my sleep sometimes panicking like did I
- 57:36Speaker 1: turn in that essay? Oh my god? Did I graduate?
- 57:38Speaker 2: And I'm like no, but I've been out of that
- 57:39Speaker 2: hole for every class. It's the final, it's the midterm.
- 57:43Speaker 1: That scam so long ago. I had a dean who
- 57:46Speaker 1: was like my finance professor was also the dean, and
- 57:49Speaker 1: he was like one of the hardest teachers. And I
- 57:51Speaker 1: remember walking across the stage in my business school graduation
- 57:54Speaker 1: and leaning in his ear and I was like, yo,
- 57:57Speaker 1: am I gonna get this in the mail because you
- 58:00Speaker 1: just taking a final. I didn't know if I passed that,
- 58:02Speaker 1: and I waited to take the hardest class because I
- 58:04Speaker 1: was on scholarship. I was like, it's gonna take my shit.
- 58:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm bad.
- 58:07Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you gonna get in the mail.
- 58:08Speaker 1: I was like, thanks, bruh. I honestly think I got
- 58:09Speaker 1: it on personality alone, yes, but.
- 58:11Speaker 2: Also on flip like you could just be like you
- 58:13Speaker 2: would know everything. You're like War of eighteen twelve US England.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Right, I feel like every time you go back to
- 58:20Speaker 1: school in the same age, you gotta.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Get that it's all the same shit.
- 58:23Speaker 1: You go to Harvard, Frederico, you should have everything by now,
- 58:25Speaker 1: you should be killing these ap exams. Yeah, but he
- 58:29Speaker 1: was like, fucking I ain't going to school no more.
- 58:31Speaker 1: So Frederick also began to become suspicious that Nicholas's mother,
- 58:34Speaker 1: Beverly Dollar Hied and older brother Jason knew Nicholas is
- 58:38Speaker 1: whereabouts the entire time and that he may have not
- 58:41Speaker 1: mysteriously disappeared. So Frederick O is like becoming suspicious that,
- 58:45Speaker 1: like these people know what's up with him. At the time,
- 58:49Speaker 1: a producer from the tabloid show Hard Copy called private
- 58:52Speaker 1: investigator Charlie Parker. I love private investigators because they're just
- 58:55Speaker 1: fucking nosy people who make it a career. Like I
- 58:58Speaker 1: always say, guys, take your flaw and just go make
- 59:00Speaker 1: money with it and let that be your outlet. If
- 59:02Speaker 1: your noseest fuck, be a private investigator. If you're a hater,
- 59:06Speaker 1: work and giving people you know, meter may tickets like
- 59:09Speaker 1: find your calling and your passion with your flaws. So
- 59:12Speaker 1: this is definitely his. So Charlie Parker investigates the disappearance
- 59:17Speaker 1: of Nicholas Barklay. So we got to picture Charlie up here,
- 59:19Speaker 1: right here, Charlie driving an old school car. Oh, he
- 59:23Speaker 1: listened to an AM radio.
- 59:24Speaker 2: Who he and personally did this guy?
- 59:26Speaker 1: No, So Charlie is the investigator.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that looks like a PI right.
- 59:30Speaker 1: He looks like he loves spending time his car. He
- 59:32Speaker 1: will eat every meal in there.
- 59:33Speaker 2: If you saw that guy pull up next to here, like,
- 59:35Speaker 2: oh shit, my ex is looking at me right now.
- 59:38Speaker 2: My X wants some.
- 59:39Speaker 1: Stuff right this, My guy is bored and I love
- 59:42Speaker 1: that for him. He was like, how can I make
- 59:43Speaker 1: being bored a profession?
- 59:44Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 59:45Speaker 1: Love that. So they have Charlie Parker come to investigate
- 59:48Speaker 1: the disappearance of Nicholas Barkway. Parker began to dig deeper
- 59:52Speaker 1: and began finding red flags in the whole story, including
- 59:55Speaker 1: Frederick's eye color, accent, and hair roots didn't match any
- 59:59Speaker 1: of Nicholas description. Now now Nicholas, Charlie, Nicholas, Charlie, Peter Pam,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: my guy. You gotta get touch up, my guy. You
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: can't be out here not being blonde. Yeah, you gotta
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: get the volumeizer whatever. They doing to live, Like what.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: You finesseride, that's what you need to get the pills.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: You need to regrow those follicles. I feel that like
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: his achilles heel is his front line.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like his it's his hair. His hair is
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: sabotaging everything. Like bro, feel that you gotta go to
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: Tony and Guy and have regular appointments and get a
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: punch card. You can't ever let them roofs grow out?
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: What are you doing? He called Nicholas's mother with the
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: evidence he had, but she didn't initially believe him. However,
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: on March fifth, nineteen ninety eight, almost six months after
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Nicholas was found, she finally called the authorities and Frederick
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: was arrested at a diner with Parker the following day.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: According to Parker, when he told Nicholas and quotes that
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: he had upset his mother, the young man blurted out,
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: She's not my mother.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: You know it, love it. He drops character quick. He's
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: done that a couple of times.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: He was like, okay, real bail, you're not my real mother.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he has to put in a final
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: dagger in your You were never my real mother.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: Never my real mother.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: You mean nothing dollar hide right.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: So several months later, Frederick pleaded guilty to perjury into
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: obtaining and possessing false documents. He was sentenced to six
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: years in prison. Authorities investigated further into Nicholas's disappearance, but
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: after Jason, one of the only other suspects, died of
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: a cocaine overdose, no evidence was found and there were
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: no conclusions that could be made. So that's side. Nicholas
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: never turned up. The homie mysteriously died, so we don't
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: never know what happened to Nicholas other than Peter Pan
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: pretended to be him. So that's not a great ending
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: for that, so Frederick today. After his release from the clink,
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Frederick went on to pose as several more teenagers before
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: being caught for his final acts at the age of
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: thirty in France in two thousand and five, which is
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: what we talked about in the beginning. After six month probation,
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: he was free and soon after married to a Francheois mom, Isabelle,
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: after two months of courtship. Now, Isabelle, look at what
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: we look like now he looked.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: He found religioline.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Caroline. Now damn he not hell kids those kids.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: I don't know he.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: Birthed up with his penis. Oh my god, that's a
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: lot of kids.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: He looks interesting, he's like a very it's it's you know.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: So after seeing him on television and connecting with his story,
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: she attracked him down and they fell in love. So
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: this was a woman who was already wild. This is
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: like a prison bay. She was like, oh, this criminals.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Let me write to him.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let me fix something.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: Right, let me fix him, let me support him. I mean, honestly,
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: when you've been listen, if you're a person out there
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: who dates men, we all know they criminals. So at
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: least if you get one who's already been in jail,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: you know what you get.
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: And while they're in jail, they can't really cheat on you.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: They can only like have several visits with other people.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, boo on lock she
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: locked it down. After the lockdown. Okay, they have since
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: had five children, which is what we're looking at right now. Hell,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: the kids, kids look cute. Kids look like they're gonna
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: get into crime. And I love that for them.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: Yeah, the one on them right with that smile, got
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: a joker smile, going on, right there, should.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: He already done his like four robberies.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: I've opened five lemonade stands.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: He got the lemonade stands on Neckee, I got all
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: of them. Deck. So he continues to live in France
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: with his family and his cats. All right, Frederick, I'm
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: glad you're out of jail. I mean, you just wanted
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: to hang out and go to school. And look, I
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: think as an adult if I went to school, I
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: would appreciate him more than I'm like, no bills.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: Yeah, rep paid, Yeah he got we got off pretty easy.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Yeah, he got any and we know he got a
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: good education. He didn't learn the same shit about eleven times. Okay.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: He can name all the states and the capitols you know,
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: yeah he said all that, yes, and in different countries.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: So he's got a world class education that's basically college.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: But he can play the recorder.
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: He played a recorder live, like like Liz, you played
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: like the Saxophone's not a saxophone, No, it's a recorder.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: It's wood.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Yeah. He goes up doing an open mic and he's like, oh,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: we played a recorder, and everyone's like, oh, let's see
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: this guy and he's like, he's like, damn, is.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: That flight of the bumblebee on a recorder? Cure is, Yes,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: he's got it. He's got the talent. Shout out to
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Frederico and his recording playing skills. And now we've reached
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: the satist part of the show, the end where shortly
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: I'll have to let Joshua go. But before we do
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: that scammer of the week, this is where we highlight
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: one charlatan who's worthy of our praise, or maybe not,
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: like Frederico, who spent a little too much time with
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: children for our tastes. So we'll see what we're getting
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: into today. Today our scammer of the week is a
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: world international chess player and he's nineteen year old Hans Nieman,
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: and have accused him of cheating at the sink Field
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: Cup using vibrating anal beads. So you thought the Queen's
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: gambit was wild Sisters over here on her Kuayludtflix Chess
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: at the ceiling, But really the Netflix show is booty
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: beats and hell they work for chess. Look at it.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: You don't just have that kind of concentration. If something
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: in your booty that's your toilet face.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: Check, didn't fall out another bathroom break?
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: Please?
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: They're loose? What's loose?
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: No? Nothing? Nothing? Okay. So last week Hans beat previous
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: world champion Magnus Carlson, the best chess player in the world,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: in a match for all intents and purposes that should
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: have been lost. So we're looking at the best chess
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: player and the cordon. It does look like.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: James Corden was like me a little bit, I don't what.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: Honestly, this is not a good photo shoot. It's giving sears.
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the world champion.
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: You're the world champion. They couldn't get you no cutere
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: shit than this. I mean you got Joe Nails did
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: for it.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: But like should be like flipping the board up, yeah,
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: like let me.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Get some chess pieces, like falling all around. You were like,
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: you know, you're fucking the game up.
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: You're not like playing politely, right.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: I guess it's a flex because he's holding that's the
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: king piece, right, So he's like, I got jo king,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: look at me. I guess y'all. It's this a little dry,
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: but okay. So this was the baddest bitch in the
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: in the chess game and then he lost to our
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: antal b dude, so the two had never played before.
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: Hans was clearly the weaker and less experienced player, and
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: he was playing as black. So in chess, right, when
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: you're playing black, you move second. They let the white
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: people move first, right, says something. It's everywhere we should
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: flip a coin. Why do white people always moving first?
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: And life and in chess, okay, it's a metaphorm. So
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: he was playing black, which you know, like out the gate,
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: you're you're not the first person making the move, so
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: someone else is already setting up their strategy, and it's harder.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: And I think I also on the computer like computerized versions,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: it's hard, really into the queen scam bit and I was.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: Like me too, and then I dropped it. I did
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: that chess app for like a week like this is
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: this is hard.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: This is hard to play chess.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: This is hard.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: I used to play chess against my dad, which is
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: a full fucking scam because he taught me how to
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: play chess and then obviously was gonna teach me everything.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: So I would play him and then we would bet,
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: and if I lost, I had to watch his golf
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: clubs and if he won, he gave me money. He
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: always fucking won. I'd just be scrubbing his damn golf
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: clubs all the damn time.
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a teacher. You think you were playing
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: basketball the kids, like always when you're backing down, go
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: to your right hand and then like you just like
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: I'm gonna block you every time, right, Like teaching you
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: how to lose.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: To me very much that my dad scammed me and
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: I just cleaned golf clubs for forever. So early in
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: the match, Magnus made a single mistake and Hans replied
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: with a practically flawless game. Hans is the booty man.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: So following the match, Magnus withdrew from the tournament for
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: the first time in his god here and tweeted a
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: mysterious video of European soccer coach Jose Mouraniho saying if
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: I speak, I'm in big trouble. Not that if I speak, Okay, listen,
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Magnus was a messy ho. Okay, he was like, I'm
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: the bad bitch of chess. How dare you come over
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: here and do something like this to me? But he
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: withdrew from the whole tournament, Like why would you withdraw
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: just because you lost one meds.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: I think they're really like penchulant. I don't think they're
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: like they're just like He's like, I don't do second.
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: I think Chess is like super emotional people because they're
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: like King of Nerds, and I think they just have
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: all that repressed like emotions, because I've heard that where
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: there's like I'm out, I lost what?
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: No, I don't even want to get second. You don't
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: even want to get some free drinks at the bar,
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: you know, little chest tost hang out with the other
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: ponds Brooks set the fucking shit. You know you don't
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: want to do to L with the Knights. Do the
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: l electric slide. That's what I'll do when I'll move
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: to night. Nothing like that, Okay, cool. So he was
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: just like I'm out of this bitch, but then tweeted
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: some shady ass shit love that we Love we Love
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: mess so more, speculating that Hans somehow cheated because he
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: admits to have cheated on chest dot com when he
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: was twelve. Who was not cheating on chess? Not I
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: feel like that's a place for cheating at twelve.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: I was doing really weird stuff.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: At twelve, Yeah, I was making fake MySpace pages.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know if I want to say
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: what I was doing at twelve, right, I was making
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: my own Victoria's Secret catalogs for my mom's Victoria's Secret catalogs. Okay,
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: as my own editor in chief, let's just say that.
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: And my mom found out, I would cut out Okay,
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: well now I might as well. I would cut out
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: my mom always like where are my Victoria Secrets going? Like,
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: I don't think they deliver them here anymore. And I
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: would cut out the models and I'd place them in
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: my Oh, this is creepy, and I would place them. Yeah,
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: I would kind of be like, this is like I
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: would just put them in my little binder and then
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: put them up.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: It was a kind of sword. Yeah, you know you
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: love fashion.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Creepy Devil's were product.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: It's not Ceru. This is telling his classmates. So, while
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: there is no evidence, there are speculative posts that due
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: to the extremely tight security at chess tournaments, there's no
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: way that Hans could have ever cheated, under the assumption
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: that he surely did right so, except for the use
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: of anal beads that connected to a chess supercomputer and
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: vibrated the correct moves. So basically they're like, we check
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: everybody when they come into the chest. Bitch, Okay, we're
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: checking your hands, We're patting you down, making sure you
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: don't got no rooks in your pocket, you don't got
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: no pawns, you don't got you know, no queens, no
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: extra kings, you know, but they can't check your bootyhole.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: Imagine going to the chess competition. They're like, all right,
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: it's time for the cavity.
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: Spread them, drop them, spread them, spread the favorite.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: Play chess or not take them shoes off to This
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: is the airport, This is tsa of chess. Okay, and
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: spread them cheese and cough.
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: Was there a guy in the van that what do
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: you mean to a supercomputer? Was there a van connected?
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to understand. So while you know, they
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: said that there's no evidence, but they're like the only
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: thing could have been anal beats over. But and then also,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: how do you know that? It's like what the buzz means?
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: You get like two booty buzzes and you're like right.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: Like like a lot, It's like like five means rook
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: and two means laft. He's like, Brook, he's just yelling
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: it out, and we were like, why is he saying
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: it like that?
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: My guy's just floating off every time? Is this move? Like?
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: I just love chess. I just love it. It's fun stimulated.
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: What No, no, sir, no, ma'am. In a response, Hans
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: has denied any and all accusations of cheating and has
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: offered to play the game stripped naked. So here's the thing, even, Hans,
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: if you were to play it naked, you put the
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: booty beas in your booty like you're gonna be sitting
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: on your sphincter. Like we still wouldn't know.
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: Are you saying?
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: He's just like I think now.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: He's like, I will spread it and cough on OnlyFans
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: and then we will play chess.
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: I would cough every thirty seconds.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Has I'm just trying to figure out how your opponent
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: Magnus even made this conjecture, being like, no, he had
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: booty beads and that was advice.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: Someone had to do it before, right, Or maybe he.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: Must have saw his booty tingling every time.
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: You can tell I think if someone's uncomfortable, if.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: Your booty going off a bunch. I feel like, and
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: chess is like you're just sitting across from one person.
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: I feel like if somebody's booty was going off, Like Josh,
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: if your booty was going off right now, I feel
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: like I would know.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: Yeah, if my prostate was getting basically massages during this,
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: you would know. I couldn't hide that. That's like a thing.
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: His face, the face is given. Something is going on,
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: getting the movie. He's focusing so hard. I think every
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: time he moves a piece, he's.
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: Like, no, no, no, yeah, because.
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: No, that's my chest, that's my That's how I get
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: myself hyped up. I'm like, oh, Kelly Clarkson, I'm moving
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: chess piece.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: What that would be his crush? Kelly Clarkson.
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: The faces is the face for me? I don't know,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: it is given. He might have he might have had
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: some booty bes in the truck out front.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Maybe he was just like, I know this sounds crazy,
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: guys like it's just looked like his butthole was vibrating
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: the whole time.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: And I understand why he said, if I speak, I'm
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: in big trouble, because yeah, if you speak, you sound crazy. Yeah,
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: I played a tennis match with Serena Williamson. Her booty
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: was buzzing every time I hit the Like, what.
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't it must be a thing.
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: I mean, look, so this is the scamra of the week.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: How do how do we feel about this guy before
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: we leave? If Hans was using booty booty tricks, black
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: booty magic, No, I feel like that's very creative.
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: It's the most creative thing I've ever heard about in sport.
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: I mean it's technically.
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: Sports, Yeah, it's a sport.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: I think it's very creative. Yeah, I'm trying to think, like,
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: how could I implement that in my life?
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: Right? How could we get back? Are you can look
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: up a booty beat to a computer? How close does
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: a computer have to be?
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: I think a fraternity's gonna get a hold of this
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: and it's gonna be over for like SATs or not SATs.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: But like, what are those things called that we filled in?
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: How do I not know that? Scantron's so to see see?
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: You know, like you just got a bunch of dudes going.
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: Like everybody in the AP exam just.
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: Like, oh no, it's an essay.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: It goes off the whole time.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: It's just morse code.
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: It's a horse code.
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: No, not the.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: Not the Morris booty code. I mean, look, this is
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: inventive and fun, so you know that's fine. I'm on
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: your side. How they gonna check you boo? What they're
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: gonna do? They gonna check a bootyhole the chess competition.
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: They're not gonna do that. They can't do boody holes,
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: they're not. They don't have the uh wait, the certification
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: for blue research. No, they go get certified.
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and just you know, make money on that pay
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: per view thing you're gonna do playing chest naked.
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: Yeah, because honestly that'll get the girls going. Maybe maybe
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: that face though yet. All right, congregation, we've reached the
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- 1:16:12Speaker 1: Alright, congregations Congregation. I'm not sorry, my booty be went off.
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