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59. Mal in America (With Trevor Williams and Nate Strong) · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall. Now it is breaking down crying.
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  Hold on a minute. It's Miles America Trip.
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  We got a better theme song for that this week
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  and he got back safe as he kind of heard a bit last week, but we
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  didn't get time last week as we were in a bit of a pinch.
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  We really wanted to get the this review out and so this week we
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  have a very special episode where Mal is going to talk about
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  his journey to the promised land.
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  So Mal, how you been? Have you?
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  Are you back on the UK time since?
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  Pretty much there's it's sort of a the odd moment where I feel a
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  little weary and maybe oversleep a little bit, but I'm pretty
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  much back to normal now. I won't be dozing off during
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  this this recording at least. Yeah, it was funny.
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  I I mean, I don't think the audio listeners would have would
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  have seen, but if anyone watched the YouTube video I put up,
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  there was a bit of yawning going on mid, mid, mid program.
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  And I nodded out a long time. I don't know if it's that
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  obvious. But God, am I that boring.
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  Yeah, I. Was definitely when you were
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  talking, John, not me. Of course, Rich, of course, as
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  always, thank you when I was talking and to help us along
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  recount Miles Journey because I'm sure there was bits when you
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  had too many beers aboard or whatever.
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  And just to provide a bit more color, we have two of our
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  favorite friends from across the pond and the two people that
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  Miles spent the most time with when he was in America.
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  So first of all, we have Trevor 16 shooter.
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  How are you Trevor? Great, Great.
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  Thanks for having me. No problem at all.
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  And we have Nate Corona for Nate Strong.
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  The second part of stuff of Mal's journey was in Nate's
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  house. How are you, Nate?
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  Excellent. Yeah.
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  Ready to dish the dirt on Mal here?
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  100% I've been chomping at the bit.
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  Oh, I've got stories. Very good, and Richie might as
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  well give you an intro. Even though you popped in there
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  early, we had to endure you with your Bony ears on earlier well.
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  We have an early Easter celebration.
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  Yeah, you're peaking. You're peaking early.
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  What was the story about celebrating Easter week early?
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  We're just going to be away Easter, so just.
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  Saw you up in Wales. Yeah, my best friend and family
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  around sort of thing. It's in Easter egg hunt.
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  The neighbors must have wondered what was going on.
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  It's old people on both sides. They're fine.
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  Oh yeah, they don't know what day of the week it is.
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  Exactly. Do you know what I mean?
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  Gives new meaning. To trying to keep up with the
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  Joneses. I tell you what, I tell you
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  what, John, if you thought, if you thought you referred, didn't
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  you, to this show as you and the baldy club normally where you're
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  in real trouble this week? Grounded by them.
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  They have the good grace to wear hats, you know.
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  I was wearing Bunny ears or what would you?
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  Want anything else literally? I'll take the ball.
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  That just that just augments the bald, I think.
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  There we go. Now I have to.
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  It's adorable. Oh my goodness.
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  I like it. So you boys, were you at, you
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  weren't at the telecon in New Jersey this weekend, Trevor, at
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  all? No, I was conned out and, you
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  know, a weekend away, you know, leaving my wife, it's like, it's
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  hard to say. Hey, guess what I'm going to do
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  next weekend? Yeah, I'm.
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  Going to be gone all Saturday. I mean as it was, I was down
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  here like we'll talk about it later, but I was done all here
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  yesterday was pouring rain here. So you know, I got some more
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  work done on those photos that you know, yes, down to about
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  like 65 I think at this point, so.
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  Remaining or yeah. Remaining, yeah.
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  Yeah. Remaining.
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  Wow, that's pretty amazing. And you natives, was it snowing
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  again in Michigan? Did I see or?
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  Oh yeah, we got dumps on Friday. Yeah, yeah, Like, you know, it's
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  typical Michigan. They always say you don't like
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  the weather, wait 15 minutes. But you know, we went from 70
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  like a week prior and it was fairly decent.
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  Yeah, we can speak on, thank God.
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  But yeah, a week later we got probably 4 to 6 inches.
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  It'll be gone by tomorrow. No, we did.
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  We it's colder this weekend, but not not like that kind of cold.
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  But we did have a kind of a fall stone on the nice weather and
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  then this cold there was, you know, I was going out for walks.
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  I was backing up for walks. This is great and went out
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  yesterday. I was like do a short walk
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  today. Don't fancy the wind just biting
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  across my face. It's not really not really
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  anything to to be looking forward to.
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  Yeah, I know. But I get the last one too.
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  I'm sure we'll get another. Oh yeah, you know, could be as
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  late as May, So you never know around here.
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  Yeah, it's true. Because you're I always think
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  you're kind of at the same. Was it longitude or latitude and
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  you're kind of involved? We kind of well, I'm a little
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  lower though begin. I'm Long Island on the ocean.
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  So we get a little bit of like when things come across.
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  It's starting to warm up a little bit because of the ocean
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  a little bit. So we don't get as much snow.
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  Yeah, You're quite lower. You're more Spain.
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  Yeah, You're more Spain compared to us.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  But because of the Gulf Stream, we get like we'd be we'd be
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  Arctic Circle weather if it wasn't for the Gulf Stream, I'll
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  tell you that much. Yeah, the UK is the same long as
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  you'd like to do whatever it is as Canada, yeah, but we just, we
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  don't get, we don't get the snow, we just get rain, yeah.
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  It's the Gulf Stream. Yeah, it's because.
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  Anyway, that's the weather update for this week now.
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  Over now, over the. Sports.
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  So. Take us, take us on the start of
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  your journey, so flew from London to New York, JFK this
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  time I believe because Trevor is more on that side of.
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  Of New York. I did, yes.
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  When I was looking for flights, it didn't appear that there were
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  any flights direct to Michigan. So which is where I sort of was
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  when we were discussing things with these guys.
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  I was like, well, I'll fly into New York, meet up with Trevor,
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  and then we could fly from New York together and meet up with
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  Nate. It was a pretty good flight,
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  pretty quick six hours. Trevor showed me the sights of
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  Long Island. The the beach.
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  Such as they are away from JFK to my.
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  House and yeah, we went for for a drink and a bit of bite to
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  eat, didn't we? Which was lovely.
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  That was nice. And then hung out.
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  I got to see to see that room behind Trevor there and all the
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  goods and. You're a bit of a you're a bit
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  of a Hot Toys appreciator in your time.
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  Haven't you been? I have, yes, I do have a most
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  well, they're all in boxes at the moment and I've sold a few
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  off. I'm probably going to sell most
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  of the rest of them off. I think possibly in the coming
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  months. We'll see.
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  But yeah, I. Do know a guy with an eBay
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  store, They might be able to help you.
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  I've got my own. Sneaky man, any of our listeners
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  who are America based, obviously Malcolm, you know, sell you
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  something then bring it with him when he comes to Legion's comp
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  if you were to wait. Yeah, yeah.
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  The mouth not getting on the plane with two suitcases of our
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  toys. I don't think so.
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  Yeah, I cleaned up really, really well for for for Mel to
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  come down here. It's still a bit of a mess, but.
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  You know, one thing I was wondering, Trevor, was there
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  anything you needed to kind of hideaway from mouth?
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  Maybe. Maybe.
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  There were parts of the basement that I I just kept it.
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  Well, first of all, they're very messy.
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  It's like my work table that I didn't show off per SE, but
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  there might have been some other things behind the curtain that I
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  couldn't show. And I was very good.
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  I didn't. Can you show me?
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  Too like and I you know. You.
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  Didn't get up in the middle of the.
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  Night I checked the camera footage, but he didn't he.
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  Hasn't he hasn't told us the thing?
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  This is the reason why we've this the reason why we've
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  arranged this episode is because he hasn't told us the thing you
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  know. I'm very respectful, you know,
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  it's. I know, We know.
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  Yes. Rich would have been like buried
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  in it, knees deep. Oh yeah, I'd, I'd still be.
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  I'd still be in Trevor's basement playing with the new
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  figures. I wouldn't be telling him.
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  Yeah, so he's grabbing fun myself.
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  You'd be the reason they're delayed for six months because
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  of the, you know, the the stuff. Yeah, I just.
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  Broken the. I just broke the ball.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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  He'd be popping everything onto the nights like my whole my
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  whole order of ether on would be completely screwed up.
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  But I did watch, I watched a video today from I think it was
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  Billy Bazer did a video from Thailand where he filmed the
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  panel. And as either Joe or Jeremy said
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  that they do 2 paint masters now these days.
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  So that they and they keep one back so that when they get it
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  back from China, the first factory sample, they can look at
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  it at something that was painted at the same time.
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  It's kind of like you have your two copies and then there's no
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  chance of slippage, you know? Because they get, I mean and he
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  mentioned this like they send them to me and they, I mean
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  there's no way around them not getting scratched or you know at
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  least the joints rub or you know moving stuff on something that
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  isn't sealed paint. It's definitely a scratch and
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  scrape. And it was funny because he was
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  talking about that. The one I think it was.
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  I think it was Novi and Lean that no, no, it wasn't.
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  Is Azar. Is Azar.
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  Azar. Yeah, the yellow something.
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  On the back, like like like OR for original copy or something
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  like that. And like they came back in the
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  paint, the paint master had OR on it and everything.
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  Like, yeah, Every little piece. And that's why Torgan's nose has
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  that kind of dark smudge is because there was a bit of dirt
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  on the on the nose and the prototype it was.
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  They didn't think that on the factory are so good at matching
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  whatever they get. They just, it's amazing.
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  I mean when you think what they do.
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  I love that little dirt. Yeah, absolutely.
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  When you think what they do, it's kind of really just a copy.
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  It's like a photocopy almost, but in in real life.
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  Now that they're doing that, it's probably like one of those
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  things where like, why were we doing this all along?
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  That's more time consuming too, though.
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  So now they have to come up with two before they get them to me.
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  So you know, everything's on a little bit, but I mean more and
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  more it's getting to be like we actually have maybe, you know, a
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  month before things have to be ready to go.
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  So used to be weeks, sometimes a week.
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  Yeah, that. Yeah, I remember those days.
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  Yeah. And you weren't joking when you
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  said you were literally just packing it up to and driving it
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  to G Con kind of thing. Yep.
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  And Jim did say another just to while we're still on that topic
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  of that video. But Jim did say as well that
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  they're going to China in May or so.
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  And George and Chris and it was kind of the context of what you
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  said is that they're trying to make sure that they have certain
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  things done for this year, which is already exciting I would say
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  in itself. And also maybe trying to shorten
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  up that little production timeline where they can.
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  Yeah. And I think that could work face
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  to face is obviously going to be better.
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  It's amazing what they can do long distance already, you know,
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  considering. Yeah, since since COVID it
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  hasn't really been possible or practical to go there, so.
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  You know, they're sending them, they're sending Jim for that bit
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  John to speed up the process. It's like, yeah, if anyone's
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  going to speed up Jim is nobody messes around I.
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  Have to say he was, he was extremely, I mean Jim seems like
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  a nice guy, but you know kind of he's New Jersey.
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  You know he's they have a certain attitude.
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  I think he was super relaxed on that video.
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  He was very, very. I think he was having a great
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  time down there. He's pretty chill.
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  I mean it comes to business, he's business, but he's he's a
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  pretty chill dude. We we booked him for when he
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  comes back because we have not had gym, so that's going to be
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  an interesting tale. Just because.
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  A hanging around Chris that long and that tell you in that
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  situation is going to be an interesting story.
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  You'd nearly be better just, you know, grabbing your even your
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  phone and just sticking the recorder on the part of a pub or
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  something and go for a few beers with them.
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  That might be a better show, that's true.
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  Or maybe you could do that for us and I'll put it in the
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  podcast. You know it was an audio.
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  There you go and you can still do your your YouTube stream and
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  you can get the the the more sanitized version.
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  The same for kids version. It didn't Jim say that Chris has
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  been like 45 times or something. Previously, Yeah, Yeah.
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  I think he was wasn't when he was maybe with NECA which isn't
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  Chris. He used to go a lot and and I
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  believe his wife or I don't know if I would just say his wife or
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  mother of his kids. She's from there or she's she's
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  from there. She has background anyway.
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  Yeah. I mean, if you think about it,
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  that's probably twice a year for, you know, yeah.
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  A good chunk of. Your career?
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  That's crazy. It's not an easy trip either
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  from where you guys are from here.
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  So. You fly, he's got it down.
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  Do you fly Hawaii direction or do you fly over US if you're
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  going there? I would say you'd.
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  I always thought. You'd go to Hawaii and at least
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  take off from California and then go go from there.
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  Makes more, I think it's probably closer.
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  Yeah, definitely. And I think all the factories on
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  that side to China as well the. The.
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  East Coast. Yeah, very good.
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  Anyway, Mal, you were you you were in Trevor's and I assume he
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  sure he served you up an amazing breakfast on that.
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  Last morning breakfast was it was very nice.
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  We went to a little local deli that Trevor goes to.
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  The dreams. They'll breakfast burrito.
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  That had to when I saw it on the menu and it was very, very nice.
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  I love that. See, that's the thing about
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  visiting somewhere with The Local is you get to see the
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  cooler stuff, you know, no matter where you are.
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  And I mean, obviously Long Island is a pretty cool place.
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  So you know, that's. It's a good deli.
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  It's definitely a good deli there everyday.
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  I'm glad the burrito was good because I've never had the
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  burrito from there, so I'm glad it was.
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  What's your What's your usual? I get.
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  I get like the. Strangely, my cholesterol is not
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  high. I don't know how I this is my.
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  I think it's genetic, but it's. I don't think food is involved
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  in cholesterol. I think it's a genetic thing.
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  Well done bacon 2 eggs over easy.
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  No? I hold the cheese, no cheese
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  wrap, salt and pepper. So.
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  It's kind of like if you were, if you were a smoker all your
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  life. You know when people give up
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  smoke and they often get really sick and then they, you know,
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  especially later in life, if you've been eating bacon and
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  eggs all your life, just keep at.
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  It, you know, yeah. Unless.
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  You're like, you know, with the Turkey sausage every once in a
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  while. Yeah, I mean, no, but it's true.
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  It's not that much more healthy. I've looked into it and it's
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  really, it's negligible. So.
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  That's true, exactly, Yeah. But you know, you're still
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  looking fit, young man. So you know, we let you away
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  with it. OK.
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  It's all, it's all in context here Trevor, you know.
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  Yeah. And it was it was no.
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  Diabetes yet? And.
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  How long did you, you, you, you, how long did you have then after
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  that, were you guys kind of getting ready to go to the
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  airport? Yeah, yeah, we.
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  No, we ate breakfast and we got, we got a car, took us to the
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  airport like like an hour later, hour and a half, something like
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  that. Then Detroit was only like an
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  hour, right? Less than Yeah, it was about an
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  hour. Right.
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  Hour. An hour, an hour and a half.
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  Something like that hour. And a half maybe it was.
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  Not too bad. Yeah, and that's into Mysticon.
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  Or into. No, that was Detroit for nature
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  of. Course that was into Detroit.
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  And flying over you nature. Yeah, and I got, I got to tell
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  you. So I went to pick him up and I'm
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  waiting in line and there's like 3 rows deep of cars.
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  You know, tons of people are coming out of the terminals and
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  I'm looking, looking, looking, looking for them.
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  And I look out my backside window and all of a sudden I see
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  Mel and Trevor and my brain for like 1/2 a second was just like.
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  What the hell are a are? Those two guys doing together
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  and B, are they in Detroit? It's just A, it's just a real
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  thing, you know? And and then of course I was
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  like. But I was kind of saying the
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  same thing. Why the hell am I It's just.
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  Like. It's true, yeah, that that kind
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  of when you see people out of there, you know, not where you
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  expect to see them. It's a bit, and especially as we
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  kind of know each other through so well, either true legions
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  gone or just the Internet doing stuff with each other every week
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  or every other week, you know, and that's me.
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  And that was that your first time in Nate's place then as
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  well, Trevor? Yeah, yeah.
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  First time in Detroit? Yeah.
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  First time in Michigan. First time in Detroit?
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  Yep. And definitely, yeah.
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  First time in Nate's? Yep.
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  It's cool. Very good.
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  He's a great host. Yeah.
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  Thank you. We have heard from the my Wife
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  guys that you're that you're you're a good host Nate.
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  Now we. Had a good time.
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  We had a few cocktails, maybe, yeah.
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  I saw a. Few days we got tails.
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  Yeah, We stopped at a local brewery on the way to give a
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  little buffer. My wife ready, thinner on.
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  I don't know about you, Rich, but I was quite.
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  That was when I got quite jealous, was when I saw them
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  just sitting around playing darts and that other board game.
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  And I was. Getting.
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  Yeah. That that's my kind of scene,
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  you know? I mean, I'll be honest, I'm
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  quite angry just talking about it now, Mal talking.
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  About his breakfast. Roller ice.
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  It was did he? Did I?
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  Did I? Did he tell you I trounced him
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  at every pub game? Did he?
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  Did he? Yeah.
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  He did, He said. He let the British down, I
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  believe was a phrase he used. So yeah.
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  He was held for two hours of customs in Heathrow.
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  When he got back, it was like the Spanish Inquisition, you
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  know, MI 6 and MI Fighters, all those guys were there.
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  We we heard you lost the Super Games.
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  Against you, man. We're going to have to deport
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  him. He's got a little red stamp on
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  his passport now, you know. Yeah, he was made very clear to
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  him. If he if that happens again, you
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  don't come back. It wasn't the jet lag now had to
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  get over. When he he arrived back in the
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  UK. It was the full body cavity
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  search hearing. Upon hearing, he left the
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  countryman down. I'd like to blame the alcohol,
• 20:43
  but it's not at all that was just.
• 20:46
  You know you. Know it's easier to.
• 20:48
  Like baseball, basketball, American football.
• 20:53
  You know, all those things. That's acceptable.
• 20:55
  Pure, definitely acceptable. But pub sports?
• 20:59
  You know this. Is.
• 21:00
  Shuffleboard. Mile When you think you know I.
• 21:03
  Mean table Nate would have been really, really done.
• 21:06
  Oh. Me and Mal are meeting up on
• 21:09
  Wednesday face to face. Mal, we're finding somewhere
• 21:11
  over the dartboard. I'm going to get you practicing,
• 21:14
  dude. You're.
• 21:15
  In training to legions con this. Is, yeah, and there's.
• 21:18
  Two. And there's two different places
• 21:20
  in Bristol with Shuffleboard tables.
• 21:21
  So if you and John come down in Bristol next time, we can all
• 21:24
  get our practicing. Luckily and then I get.
• 21:28
  Pub at Legions Con doesn't have a dart.
• 21:30
  Yeah. So you're off though.
• 21:31
  Yeah, that's that's true. Well, we could arrange one.
• 21:33
  There's a Walmart down the road, you know.
• 21:35
  Could be that's. True.
• 21:38
  These guys with these guys that are putting up all those shelves
• 21:41
  and stuff in the show floor, I'm sure they have a screwdriver.
• 21:44
  We could get it up. I love that that Irish pub is so
• 21:49
  authentic and they like, they like, deconstructed a real pub
• 21:52
  in Ireland. Like it bit by bit by bit.
• 21:54
  And someone comments, oh, that's a really cool dartboard.
• 21:57
  Oh yeah, that's from Walmart. Yeah, but you know, it's
• 22:03
  genuinely what might actually happen in an Irish pub, so, you
• 22:06
  know, trying to. But that is, it's from.
• 22:09
  Yeah, that is a really nice pub though.
• 22:13
  I have to say I was a bit worried when I when we were
• 22:17
  going. They're not worried, just the
• 22:18
  wrong word, but that it was going to be a bit small and kind
• 22:21
  of, you know, you'd kind of have to squeeze in there, get your
• 22:23
  drink and kind of come out to the lobby or something.
• 22:26
  But it's quite spacious and it was just the right amount of
• 22:30
  people around that you could always kind of get to the bar
• 22:33
  and you could stand around for a chat if you met somebody and the
• 22:37
  restaurant was pretty easy to get in and out of.
• 22:40
  Yeah, it was. Obviously surprised with that.
• 22:43
  Yeah, it was really nice. Great place.
• 22:48
  And now the expectations are high for next year.
• 22:50
  Well, and next year if if we've got 95% hotel, potentially it'll
• 22:55
  just be us in there as well, might be one or two other
• 22:58
  people, but. That's true.
• 23:00
  There be no wedding to to cheer yet to cheer, yeah.
• 23:03
  I reckon. I reckon the bride and groom
• 23:05
  might come back for honeymoon there.
• 23:07
  They like seeing us so much they'll come back just they're
• 23:09
  going to party with us for the other weekend.
• 23:12
  That's right. Yeah.
• 23:14
  Anniversary. I I mean, I'd go there for any
• 23:20
  anniversary, but, you know, that's me.
• 23:23
  They probably have never even heard of mythic legions, right?
• 23:27
  So that was So tell us about Is it really a mansion that Nate
• 23:33
  lives in, or the OR the my wife Guy's exaggerating.
• 23:37
  It's a very nice house and he's got OK he's he got a very cool
• 23:42
  downstairs area in the house and yeah that's yeah got to see
• 23:49
  Nate's little man cave as well didn't we where you shoot your
• 23:53
  stuff and and it's quite often the background to dates videos
• 23:58
  that was very cool as well. Thank you, Ma.
• 24:01
  I panicked for a little bit there.
• 24:02
  When you said you got to see his man cave was like, this is not
• 24:05
  that sort of show we talking about that does.
• 24:10
  That turn out across the pond yet?
• 24:13
  Not very weird something. Else.
• 24:16
  That's the cavity search term, that one, Trevor.
• 24:18
  Yeah. Yeah, we're encouraging Nate to
• 24:23
  expand that outwards. We've been bad influences on.
• 24:31
  Yeah, I mean, I I understand you have a family, Nate.
• 24:33
  But I mean, there's a lot of room there where that dartboard
• 24:35
  is and you know the the games table and stuff, it's.
• 24:39
  Pretty much a lot of room for figures.
• 24:40
  Man, Yeah, we'll. We'll see.
• 24:45
  Put that foot he knows like take a.
• 24:47
  He knows. He knows where he's bred.
• 24:49
  His buttered. If Nate isn't like me, he likes.
• 24:51
  It's already like, you know, I'm happy.
• 24:53
  I've got the bar and the and the big screen and the dartboard and
• 24:57
  drum kit and, you know, yeah, it's all good.
• 24:59
  It's not like it's, you know. That's true, yeah.
• 25:04
  So yeah, Jeremy Dewitts look for a drummer for his band, isn't
• 25:07
  he? You could.
• 25:07
  You couldn't make the trip across.
• 25:09
  Well, it's really my son who plays.
• 25:11
  Oh, is it OK? Yeah.
• 25:13
  Pity. Send him across.
• 25:15
  No, that wouldn't be good it. Just gets on there when nobody's
• 25:17
  home. Just pick him.
• 25:18
  Pick him, pick him. I do.
• 25:22
  When the when the figure he's trying to photograph has fallen
• 25:25
  over for the 12th time and he goes Oh yeah, why did I pick
• 25:29
  this two point O skeleton to to for this picture?
• 25:32
  Yeah, I go take my frustration out.
• 25:35
  Again is a good stress reliever, Yeah.
• 25:38
  Absolutely. Did you ever go on the drums,
• 25:40
  man? No.
• 25:41
  I wouldn't do that to anyone. You didn't get drunk enough.
• 25:47
  Basically is what you're trying to.
• 25:49
  Done. Yeah, Just know me.
• 25:52
  I'd break something so I'm terrified of touching anything
• 25:58
  when I go to other people's houses.
• 26:01
  Yeah, even yourself. Especially.
• 26:10
  Goodness too, because we were both sleeping in the same couch.
• 26:12
  So. So we need to check for the CCTV
• 26:16
  cameras, man. That would have been tough.
• 26:18
  Yeah, it's all right. Trevor would probably spent most
• 26:20
  of the night awake anyway with me snoring.
• 26:23
  Oh, I remember that. I remember that from November,
• 26:25
  Trevor. Because the snoring would have
• 26:26
  stopped. But I had headphones.
• 26:29
  I had headphones, so. Yeah, that's the key he was
• 26:32
  listening to. Wouldn't fall a little, you
• 26:35
  know, Lord of the Rings soundtrack, something like that.
• 26:37
  To go to sleep. It was good.
• 26:38
  Wouldn't it have been funny to listen to old episodes of our
• 26:40
  show with with the guy snoring the section loud?
• 26:48
  Enough, really. Yeah, right.
• 26:54
  So anyway to get us out of? The.
• 26:58
  Sorry, Trevor and Mal off the couch.
• 27:01
  And you drove over then to Muskegon the next day, is that
• 27:03
  right? Did you get?
• 27:05
  It was a lovely drive, Nate. It took us again.
• 27:10
  Let's see some of the sights we drove past.
• 27:13
  Was it the town where your college was in, Nate?
• 27:17
  We all you. Drove past East Lansing, yeah,
• 27:20
  where Michigan State University is.
• 27:22
  And then we stopped in Grand Rapids for lunch and that we
• 27:27
  were going to go to the States. Probably one of the largest
• 27:30
  breweries and well known breweries, Founders Brewer
• 27:33
  Brewery. But they were closed for
• 27:36
  remodeling. So I asked Trevor to jump on
• 27:39
  Yelp and find us an alternate place to go and it worked out
• 27:44
  great. We were.
• 27:46
  We were. Review 1.
• 27:47
  Review. One review when we were in.
• 27:50
  Yeah. We were just.
• 27:51
  By the go. Ahead now you tell it.
• 27:56
  You did you tell it? It was just one I just I was
• 28:00
  scrolling down through the reviews on Yelp and one of them
• 28:02
  said great food, try the big red cock.
• 28:06
  And. We were.
• 28:08
  We. That was it.
• 28:09
  That was. We're in.
• 28:10
  There you. Go That's.
• 28:11
  It there you go. More demon language, but.
• 28:20
  We were in, we we we were all for big red cock and.
• 28:24
  Was that old man Kyle that did that review maybe?
• 28:28
  Possibly. But yeah, it was.
• 28:32
  What was it? Vivant.
• 28:34
  Brewery. Or something like that.
• 28:37
  Vivant, right? Yeah, it was in an old church.
• 28:39
  It was really a cool venue and the food ended up being awesome.
• 28:44
  So it was that great. And we so we inquired because we
• 28:47
  looked on the menu, where's the Big Red cock?
• 28:49
  And our waitress said, well, it's now called the Big Red.
• 28:52
  It's an ale that they make and they entered brewery
• 28:55
  competitions and they've had to lose the cock.
• 28:59
  OK. So to speak, yes, I.
• 29:01
  Had to castrate the beer. I had to castrate the name of
• 29:04
  the area but worked out great and then we from there it was
• 29:09
  only about 35 or so minutes to Muskegon heights which Mal would
• 29:14
  always take it from lovely fire sound.
• 29:17
  Yeah, it was incredible when you see the guys doing the deal
• 29:23
  outside the front of the house that you don't look at them,
• 29:26
  don't look alike most. Places in that state's name.
• 29:30
  The heights is really not. It's not the height.
• 29:32
  Of not so nice. It's the lows.
• 29:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like Michigan that was a
• 29:40
  complete beach and showed them the USS Silversides, which is a
• 29:44
  World War 2 sub that's in in the harbor there in the Marina.
• 29:51
  So is it? Jumped out, took some pictures
• 29:53
  on the beach and made our way to the hotel.
• 29:56
  Is it just straight? On the Marina?
• 29:58
  Or is it kind of like abandoned in the Marina?
• 30:01
  Or how is it? No, they they they they offer
• 30:04
  tours on it and then you can spend the night on it.
• 30:06
  Yeah, it's like refurbished and yeah, it's by it's.
• 30:09
  They have a little museum there. That's great.
• 30:12
  Awesome. So you know.
• 30:18
  Yeah. I can't believe the sand.
• 30:21
  It's beautiful. The beach can.
• 30:22
  Be in in the beginning of March. Like I keep saying, I wish
• 30:25
  Muskegon was in the summer so people could really, really get
• 30:29
  a sense of what the West Coast of Michigan's like in the summer
• 30:32
  because it's amazing. But just the quality of the
• 30:34
  sand, I guess I didn't expect that.
• 30:36
  I've been to a couple Great Lakes and it felt more like it
• 30:39
  was an Ocean Beach, you know what I mean?
• 30:41
  At least a large Bay, you know, East Coast type beach.
• 30:46
  And it is it is is gorgeous man. Really, really nice.
• 30:49
  Yeah, and the surrounding area as well.
• 30:51
  Some of the the, you know, the houses around.
• 30:53
  There is obviously an area set up for that beach side seaside,
• 30:59
  Lakeside Life and it just looked very cool, really cool.
• 31:04
  Awesome. And is that near to where any of
• 31:08
  the guys live or? Oh, Stephen, that's and Jeremy I
• 31:13
  think are pretty close to there, Steven and I mean Travis and and
• 31:22
  Pete are in more north, OK, and Whitehall and Montague, not too
• 31:28
  far. But I mean, you know, Lake, MI
• 31:30
  goes all the way up the coast and the beaches are just very
• 31:33
  much like that, all the way up the coast.
• 31:37
  So yeah, Then we went to the hotel, checked in.
• 31:41
  So that was a Marriott as well, wasn't it?
• 31:45
  Like Legions Con, So that's handy.
• 31:47
  Yeah, it was a nice hotel. Yeah, it really was.
• 31:51
  I was already registered on the Wi-Fi from being registered at
• 31:54
  Legions Con, which is the important bit obviously.
• 32:00
  Oh yeah, completely. Yeah.
• 32:02
  How else could you dish the dirt to us now?
• 32:04
  Do you know? No, it was a very, very nice
• 32:08
  hotel actually. I think because I had the
• 32:11
  disabled room, it was quite big because there was a sofa.
• 32:16
  And yeah, it was very nice. Nice.
• 32:20
  Good for you. Yeah.
• 32:23
  You should have partied in your room.
• 32:25
  Yeah, sounds like it. And right.
• 32:29
  And then that was the day of the mythic meet up.
• 32:32
  So tell us about. Yeah, I.
• 32:33
  Think we went, we just went down and everyone was starting to set
• 32:36
  up on the floor. So we were saying our hellos and
• 32:40
  yeah. And then eventually, yeah, the
• 32:41
  meet up was that evening. Yeah, sort.
• 32:45
  Of we hung out with rounds set up because Pete had been able to
• 32:49
  get the Legions guys related guys in early set up early so
• 32:54
  people could be ready for mythic meet up.
• 32:57
  And so we spent a fair bit of time chatting to people there,
• 32:59
  didn't we? Whilst they meet up and, and
• 33:02
  I've heard a couple of people, well, because Steve was teasing
• 33:05
  Jesse about being Miller, but Jesse was lovely.
• 33:10
  I'm going to be the lone voice that defends him.
• 33:12
  He was lovely. Big smile greeted me.
• 33:16
  Yeah, there's nothing about he. Does look intense when he's
• 33:19
  setting up. He is very intense when he's
• 33:21
  setting up. He is focused.
• 33:23
  These are focused. Is he just a typical man?
• 33:27
  It's like one thing at a time. So now I need to set up so don't
• 33:30
  distract me with the other stuff I think.
• 33:31
  He's just he, I think he's just one of those people that like,
• 33:34
  what? And I get that because when I'm
• 33:35
  doing something that I'm really focusing on, I just don't,
• 33:38
  don't. I don't want to be bothered.
• 33:40
  I don't want somebody coming up and, you know, distracting me
• 33:42
  from my train of thought or whatever what I was doing.
• 33:45
  So I get it. I totally get it.
• 33:47
  I've tried. Yeah, he wasn't.
• 33:52
  Like that Jesse is, yeah, one of the nicest guys in the
• 33:55
  community. Let's be as we're going to be
• 33:56
  fairly close to Jesse Allegiance Con this year, and now that
• 33:58
  we've moved tables, I'm going to go out of my way to try and
• 34:01
  annoy him on Saturday. Every 5 minutes they've asked me
• 34:06
  if you want to drink. This shit.
• 34:08
  Stops anything like that. It's like, you know.
• 34:12
  Can wear those ears when you do it.
• 34:13
  Actually, that might because. He loves.
• 34:16
  Critters so like. Yeah, he does.
• 34:18
  Oh, yeah. He'll probably just display you
• 34:19
  beside these other critters. That's right.
• 34:23
  Yeah, I got a one to one scale here, Bunny man.
• 34:27
  Not my. Bad Turn around.
• 34:28
  He might smack a cotton ball on your bum, if you know what I
• 34:33
  mean. Well, you know, if I work.
• 34:34
  In your man cave. I'm like.
• 34:40
  Pardon me. Yeah.
• 34:41
  And then we took a break from that.
• 34:42
  And yeah, I went to grab stuff for the Mythic, the stuff we
• 34:46
  were going to give away at Mythic meet up, and on the way
• 34:48
  back down met Chris and Kirby for the first time.
• 34:51
  They were lovely, very nice to meet them.
• 34:53
  They were local. Apparently, Travis had gotten
• 34:55
  them into the line. I think he has a lot of people
• 34:58
  in the line. And bless them, they were so
• 35:01
  sort of every time sort of say Trevor or Nate or myself or who
• 35:07
  else? One of the for the My Wife guys
• 35:11
  came passes. Oh.
• 35:13
  It's you. I'm.
• 35:14
  Very. You know as if it's.
• 35:16
  Like. Dude, don't worry about it with
• 35:19
  normies as. Well, yeah, yeah.
• 35:21
  But you're you're coming from out of town, so you know it's it
• 35:25
  is kind of cool for. Them you're a celebrity when
• 35:27
  you're coming from, when you're coming 8 hours across the the
• 35:30
  ocean to. It's Keegan when they see, yeah
• 35:32
  it's it's Sultry, voiced Mal. They've got to like, go whoa,
• 35:35
  Spencer. Spencer, Talk to me.
• 35:39
  Say my name. Yeah.
• 35:43
  That was how much we charged him for that Mal.
• 35:46
  My answering my and my. And while we're talking about
• 35:52
  that, just a just a little reminder to everyone that we're
• 35:55
  on Patreon now. So if you want to hear Mal say
• 35:57
  your name, just sign up that. Might be.
• 36:01
  A nice bonus, Mel will do your voicemail answer, yeah.
• 36:06
  Well, you know, once you're on the Patreon, just ask and and
• 36:09
  you shall receive. I would say yeah, within reason.
• 36:15
  Which reminds me guys, we still need to do our live stream for
• 36:18
  the giveaway which is off to Potato Land next weekend.
• 36:22
  We might have to do it without you.
• 36:26
  We could do it. Do without me, yeah.
• 36:28
  Well, I don't know. I mean, you know, let's not have
• 36:31
  a production meeting online. Anyway, I did.
• 36:34
  Promise in March listeners so you know this is what happens.
• 36:38
  But. You lost, you included.
• 36:40
  Don't worry. So I hung around chatting with
• 36:44
  people until the meet up started and yeah, that was it was very
• 36:50
  fun. Everyone gathered in the
• 36:51
  gathered in the meet up room. Lots of drinking, lots of
• 36:55
  chatting, lots of laughing. A joke, but Maverick actually
• 37:00
  paid for the first what 50 people had been there.
• 37:03
  Was that what it was? And and then I think Frank Lyra
• 37:06
  can contributed something that Pete said today, like helped
• 37:10
  with the the pretzel bar, which was something I've never seen
• 37:13
  before. It was, it was good.
• 37:16
  I mean, it was a Carburama, but it was, it was delicious.
• 37:20
  Well, it was good, man. That was fun.
• 37:21
  But everybody got the well. I think every, I think just
• 37:24
  about everybody got. There was probably like 70
• 37:26
  people there. Would you say maybe?
• 37:28
  Pretty good at the most, yeah. I.
• 37:31
  Was trying to think how many? Yeah.
• 37:34
  No. Well, no, I didn't count less.
• 37:37
  There must have been less because they said they had 70
• 37:40
  heads printed and had a few left.
• 37:43
  So, OK, that was a so. Maybe 50 or 60.
• 37:48
  Yeah. Still a pretty good turnout for,
• 37:50
  you know, a small. Yeah.
• 37:54
  Yeah, and. Yeah, so we all got our Steven
• 37:57
  Bouchardi skull heads. Which is.
• 38:00
  Oh, that's cool. You have it there.
• 38:06
  I'll throw you up up on big screen there for us Trevor, so
• 38:09
  you can show us what it looks like there.
• 38:11
  You go. Oh, nice.
• 38:12
  So it's kind of closed mouth and an open mouth skull.
• 38:16
  Nice, did a. Great job, right?
• 38:18
  I haven't seen Steve do it, Get it in before, so that's cool.
• 38:23
  Yeah, well done him and. Everybody got those and then
• 38:26
  there was a ton of giveaways. Yeah, a couple.
• 38:30
  Did you win? There got some prizes and stuff.
• 38:32
  OK, Yeah. Well, so the first time.
• 38:35
  It was. One of the things was.
• 38:37
  Was Travis was in charge. So that already tells you how
• 38:42
  it's going to go of calling numbers.
• 38:45
  They've already, I think they've already told the story about how
• 38:47
  it went or we did on our our, our pay, their Patreon that we
• 38:50
  did with them. That's right.
• 38:52
  Yeah. But he called out.
• 38:54
  He called in Nate and said he said pick a number and Nate
• 38:57
  picks 25 because it's our birthday May 25th, both of us
• 39:02
  and I happen to have #25 and Oh yeah, oh that was like everybody
• 39:09
  was calling Rick. It was slightly damaged on cone
• 39:13
  one with with no skirt but. It you know.
• 39:16
  But it's free. It's free.
• 39:18
  It was good. It was nice.
• 39:20
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 39:21
  And then he ended up calling my number, I think, two more times.
• 39:26
  He got he got a little stuck on 25, didn't he?
• 39:30
  At some point I want a Euro Legion T-shirt, which I gave to
• 39:33
  Eric Miller and like a Hands pack, which we'll we'll give
• 39:38
  away at some point. We'll give all the stuff away at
• 39:40
  some point, but but it was fun, man.
• 39:42
  A lot of people want stuff. There's some little kids there.
• 39:44
  The ones Some came out with handfuls of toys and stuff.
• 39:49
  I love that. It's good.
• 39:51
  Because legions are very kid friendly in terms of the quality
• 39:55
  and and I mean obviously you can pop and swap them, you know know
• 39:59
  some people have a push on for breaking them.
• 40:02
  But I think that's that's maybe some another story that we don't
• 40:08
  need to get into and in general. So.
• 40:13
  No, definitely for for normal play.
• 40:18
  And you know, popping off and on the heads mean my kids can do
• 40:21
  that, no problem with those. I'd have no worries about them
• 40:23
  breaking it. And even said to the lads, you
• 40:26
  know the magic effects packs that we got with foxes, they
• 40:30
  spend an hour just messing with them because there's there's so
• 40:33
  much fun. You know, they are.
• 40:35
  I suppose you know, because if you are playing with the
• 40:37
  figures, you know, as kids and then you have these effects and
• 40:41
  stuff, it totally improves the storytelling they're doing.
• 40:44
  You know, it's awesome. And I love that the line is
• 40:50
  going there. I mean, we talked a bit about it
• 40:52
  last week that the accessories are a level up now, aren't they?
• 40:56
  They're getting, yeah, absolutely.
• 41:00
  Yeah, it's really adding a lot. I mean, the hands packs were the
• 41:03
  beginning of that. That's a flashback to the first
• 41:08
  G Con I was at, which was Aerotheer and I guess I'd go
• 41:12
  into the bathroom or something and I came back and they, they
• 41:14
  called me on to be on screen and they were talking about, I don't
• 41:17
  know, I think they brought out Belfigor or something like that.
• 41:21
  And I'm like, you know, what you guys need to do is like a hands
• 41:23
  pack. He's like, did you not just see
• 41:24
  the segment before? We just showed.
• 41:28
  I'm like, Oh my God, that's great.
• 41:30
  Wow. Just have to go to the bathroom,
• 41:34
  sorry. Missed that part.
• 41:38
  But yeah, I mean, and and it's just leveled up.
• 41:41
  These magic effects are incredible.
• 41:43
  I can't wait for like the the crates and stuff to come with
• 41:46
  the Cosmic Ox crew set. And it's just going to get, you
• 41:50
  know, not telling any tales out of school.
• 41:51
  But I think it's just going to get better and better with that
• 41:53
  stuff. So stuff we're getting with the
• 41:55
  figure obscure releases. Yeah, exactly.
• 41:58
  Oh yeah. But when when you see them,
• 42:01
  we're not expecting them to do less of it or lower quality of
• 42:04
  it. Now you know it's it's always
• 42:06
  going progressing. So if the accessories are good
• 42:09
  with boxes, Necronomics is going to be better even though we know
• 42:13
  what's in that, but we we know the quality is going to be there
• 42:17
  and and yeah, what's to be announced is going to also have
• 42:21
  cool accessories. Would you guys want vehicles
• 42:24
  like in Cosmic anyway? Or maybe even I don't.
• 42:26
  Think like a cart or something. Or you think it's just too much?
• 42:30
  I wouldn't mind something like yeah or a cat.
• 42:33
  Like a not a cannon, but like, yeah, like a car catapult or
• 42:38
  something Like like a catapult. Like detour I.
• 42:41
  Feel I feel like vehicles in cosmic something sort of that
• 42:45
  they're going to be something that's the equivalent of amount
• 42:48
  so we're probably. Speeder bikes.
• 42:51
  Speeder. Bikes and stuff like that.
• 42:53
  Speed about. Yeah.
• 42:55
  Amazing or a piece of a? Ship would be cool, you know,
• 42:58
  because if you think of the photography aspect of the
• 43:01
  community, you know, give them someone like a cockpit or
• 43:06
  something. Yeah, that'd be amazing.
• 43:08
  Built that set of the the wrecked you know ox cruise ship.
• 43:13
  And I'm like this would sell. I would buy this.
• 43:16
  I would buy these walls and all these broken pieces of fencing
• 43:19
  and stuff like that. I would totally buy this set as
• 43:22
  as you know. As it's also it's also a way for
• 43:26
  them to to you know obviously tread away does all the
• 43:29
  sculpting for the figures or you know we'd say 90 odd percent of
• 43:32
  it and he could definitely let leave that off to like other
• 43:37
  guys you. Know hand it.
• 43:38
  Off. Yep.
• 43:40
  Like, it's not that Bill couldn't sculpt a great figure,
• 43:43
  but, you know, this is coming from Eric's head as far as, you
• 43:47
  know, do me a cool spaceship and I'm going to give you some
• 43:50
  feedback on it. Yeah.
• 43:52
  You know, it's not as as as kind of crucial to the look at the
• 43:57
  line, I would say, you know, Yeah, you know, yeah, I think.
• 44:01
  Bill. Sculpted a lot of that stuff, I
• 44:03
  mean, or at least modified some of it from other He's really
• 44:05
  like he's he's. Really good at that stuff,
• 44:08
  definitely. But they are.
• 44:10
  I mean, there's there's an awful lot of time there in.
• 44:12
  That company. I think it's reused and stuff
• 44:15
  like that. It's difficult to, you know, do
• 44:17
  like. Yeah, that's the other thing,
• 44:19
  yeah. You know, a wrecked wall and
• 44:20
  sell that three times. You know, it's kind of like a
• 44:22
  one off thing and kind of done, yeah.
• 44:26
  That's true. So it's how to do it the most
• 44:29
  cost effective way. But you know, just to get 4
• 44:34
  horsemen level factory paint on something like that would be so
• 44:38
  cool, you know? Do you wonder?
• 44:40
  OK. This is a side, All right.
• 44:42
  What if they were to sculpt things that were, I don't know,
• 44:48
  something like that. And like you were able to buy.
• 44:51
  I mean selling STL files is difficult because you can't
• 44:54
  control because who's going to get them and just pass them
• 44:55
  around. But like, I don't know, even put
• 44:57
  them out there for people or something like that.
• 44:59
  But I guess third party companies do enough of that
• 45:01
  stuff. They don't really need to.
• 45:02
  But I'm trying to think of some way you can monetize that and
• 45:05
  and sell the files so that somebody could, you know,
• 45:08
  download them and print them out yourself or something like that
• 45:10
  because it is expensive to do the molds and things.
• 45:15
  Yeah, that's true. Or or maybe just outsource that
• 45:20
  part of it, or some of it to another company, you know, and
• 45:25
  license them to make official dial parts for lesions or
• 45:30
  something. Yeah.
• 45:30
  That's where someone like crashing, where the systems
• 45:32
  could come in. Where they still have the final
• 45:36
  say as the license or you know, yeah or nay in terms of the look
• 45:40
  would be pretty cool. And if they don't need need many
• 45:43
  paint apps, something on a wall, they can maybe ask McFarland to
• 45:45
  do it. I trust Rich to come in with the
• 45:53
  fire. This was this was my instruction
• 45:57
  for this week, John. Sit there quietly and come in
• 45:59
  every now and again be. Funny Rich, yeah.
• 46:02
  Yeah. And go.
• 46:08
  So you boys were at the the mythic meet up so and there was
• 46:12
  other people, other people that came from out of town as well.
• 46:14
  Curtis was obviously there was supposed to be.
• 46:16
  Great to see him catch up. Oh, it's wonderful, Yeah.
• 46:19
  Yeah, and always great to see. Obviously from the Wolf King
• 46:23
  this. Is the thing people say about.
• 46:25
  It's same with same with the legions con.
• 46:28
  You know, people say about, oh, you've travelled for so many
• 46:32
  hours or so far, but then like people like Eric and Immortal,
• 46:38
  collections were there and and regions.
• 46:41
  Layer Boy Car Customs They're. Traveling for 7-8 hours.
• 46:47
  Yeah, that's true banana driving.
• 46:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't mind the car for the
• 46:53
  luggage aspect of things. Yes, if Rich had a character
• 46:56
  Legions con it would be dangerous.
• 46:59
  Jesus Christ, enough to sell my house for a headed off?
• 47:02
  You'd be like end up in a cat room.
• 47:05
  The Legions Con 2. Years ago with a semi.
• 47:09
  Yeah, the Legions Con two years ago I saw it.
• 47:11
  Was it Ishwar and all those guys?
• 47:14
  They had like. Yeah.
• 47:17
  They had like, and I think, yeah, I think he realized you
• 47:22
  should just become a retailer then, probably a better idea.
• 47:28
  I wonder if there's like an international U-Haul you could
• 47:31
  hire. So to drop it off and they take
• 47:34
  it, bring it over here for us. It's called a bolt, Yeah.
• 47:38
  Yeah, in terms of the IT. Can always.
• 47:43
  Change the fat people. As long as I'm not picking up a
• 47:45
  huge wave while I'm there. That's true, yeah.
• 47:48
  Well, Len was great to ship us a box each last year, but and
• 47:53
  apparently there was other people he shipped boxes to
• 47:56
  international that he had to and they ended up being returned to
• 48:00
  sender because of some bullshit with customs at the other end.
• 48:04
  So no, I don't think that was that wasn't Lane's fault.
• 48:07
  I think it was just the customs in that country decided big box,
• 48:12
  don't like it, send it back. Whereas I know myself and Rich
• 48:17
  got stuff and it came really perfectly.
• 48:21
  Yeah, really smoothly. Really quickly.
• 48:22
  And it was total lifesaver because actually we just assumed
• 48:26
  someone would chip address and we bought all this stuff and
• 48:28
  then we're running around going, OK, now we actually need to
• 48:32
  confirm with Len that he's actually going to do this.
• 48:35
  Yeah, I did put the cart before the horse slightly with my
• 48:37
  purchases and then it was like, oh crap.
• 48:40
  Yeah. But that's what you do.
• 48:42
  Just think now and sorry do and solve later that what they say
• 48:49
  right And then the Jeremy and Jeremy and Jim were there from
• 48:54
  the horsemen. They were, yes.
• 48:57
  And they did a presentation, I believe, where they had some
• 49:00
  cool stuff to talk about. They did.
• 49:02
  Yeah, Jeremy did the presentation and yes, go ahead
• 49:06
  now. Yeah, it was cool.
• 49:08
  No, yeah. Don't mind you talking at all,
• 49:10
  but yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeremy, yeah.
• 49:12
  Presented this. Well said.
• 49:16
  Oh, we're going to do a book. Not the book you think we're
• 49:19
  we're going to do. We're going to do a new book
• 49:21
  which will be the first ten years of of Legions.
• 49:26
  It's not. I think Cosmic's going to be in
• 49:28
  there as well. I assume the 1st 10 years of
• 49:31
  legions it and mention, you know, it's the perfect time for
• 49:34
  it, 10 years. And then, who knows in another
• 49:39
  10 years if we can see another one and showed off a few of the
• 49:43
  pages you've got here. Of the book.
• 49:46
  Yeah, they posted them as well on their social media.
• 49:49
  So I'm sure you'll have all got a chance to see them.
• 49:52
  But we're looking at them here. And so this reminds me, and I
• 49:56
  mentioned it last week as well of like the MO Two book from
• 50:00
  Pixel Dan for example, And it's a kind of a toy guide and it's
• 50:05
  awesome. I love it.
• 50:07
  And obviously that's what you were referring to earlier,
• 50:10
  Trevor, about 65 or 64 more to take?
• 50:14
  Right. Yeah, Yeah, there were 100 to
• 50:16
  begin with. So they came to me I think in
• 50:21
  February, early February, George and and Jeremy and they're like
• 50:26
  hey, well, so we're doing this book, we're putting this
• 50:29
  together, but obviously we're going to need all the old stuff
• 50:32
  shot which is something we talked about a while back about
• 50:36
  doing. But it just kind of like
• 50:37
  priority wise dropped off in terms of doing that kind of
• 50:40
  stuff and you know I mean to have all the accessories and
• 50:46
  stuff shot and the figures shot well is something that they
• 50:48
  wanted, but it wasn't a priority and now because of the book it
• 50:52
  obviously was. So you know they're like can you
• 50:57
  get this done within you know I think the course of a couple
• 51:02
  months anyway. So I said yeah we can we can do
• 51:05
  that. We we cut down there was there
• 51:07
  was there was going to be a little a few more turns on this
• 51:11
  page but in in in order to expedite it we're and I think
• 51:14
  it's I think it's nicer because they're larger images now.
• 51:17
  I think they had five or six images on here before because
• 51:19
  they had some of the side turns and the three quarter turns.
• 51:23
  So it's the front back and a dynamic pose that we do for
• 51:25
  everyone and then the accessory shots.
• 51:27
  So I. Think that's that's perfect.
• 51:29
  Yeah, that's a perfect amount. Yeah, yeah, it.
• 51:32
  Gives you. The view, yeah of everything you
• 51:35
  need to to see on the figure and then with the figure and stuff
• 51:39
  so. Yeah, this is, this is going to
• 51:41
  be awesome to have in hand. And it's funny.
• 51:43
  I was just listening to your latest episode with your
• 51:46
  interview with Jeremy Malcolm and as it started I was, I was
• 51:49
  thinking about it. I'm like, you know, I don't
• 51:51
  remember if he covered this or not when we're there live.
• 51:55
  But how far into 24 is it going to go?
• 52:00
  Is it going to go like to the very end of the year?
• 52:02
  You know what I mean? And so I think he answered that
• 52:05
  in your interview you did. So that's great.
• 52:09
  But, so I'm assuming we're going to get whatever is revealed to
• 52:11
  cheat on or anything you know, possibly sound like.
• 52:13
  That yes. For sure, so it'll be complete.
• 52:17
  Up to the end of this year, what it sounds like to me.
• 52:20
  Which is awesome. So I feel a little relief
• 52:22
  because I thought it was going to be done by like April and now
• 52:26
  I know that there's well, which I mean we I still have 60, I
• 52:29
  still have to move on these things.
• 52:30
  There's 65 more to go or more. Do they have to do any figures,
• 52:35
  Trevor? Yeah, you know what's
• 52:37
  interesting? Like I I have a checklist and I
• 52:41
  thought I was 4 down from being complete and and Jeremy was
• 52:46
  like, I can we can send you everything if you don't want to
• 52:48
  use your own. I'm like, listen it's just going
• 52:50
  to be easier to pull them off the shelf.
• 52:52
  I have all the accessories like you know categorized in boxes
• 52:55
  and stuff. So they're the actual
• 52:57
  accessories, like, you know that if it's the spear that came with
• 53:01
  this figure, it's not like the wrong color spear or something
• 53:04
  like that. So it just easier than taking
• 53:07
  them all out of boxes and putting them all back in boxes
• 53:10
  and shipping them all back to New Jersey.
• 53:13
  So I've started that way, but I realized I'm going through and
• 53:16
  I'm like, I swear I had like Calavius I think and like not
• 53:24
  Calavius. What's the other, what's the
• 53:26
  other, What's the human? What do you call it?
• 53:35
  Kador. Kador.
• 53:37
  I swear I had Kador and I don't have Kador.
• 53:40
  I'm like, ah, man, I mean, maybe somewhere, but I don't have them
• 53:43
  on the shelf. I don't know why I wouldn't have
• 53:45
  them on the shelf. So it's weird like I just now
• 53:47
  I'm down now I'm up to six that I don't have.
• 53:50
  And I could have sworn I had them.
• 53:52
  So they they may be somewhere. But yeah, I have to I have to
• 53:55
  order a few. Serval guard is something I have
• 53:58
  but I'm not taking it out-of-the-box.
• 53:59
  So they're going to have to sell me, send me some serval guard
• 54:01
  to. Shoot.
• 54:03
  Trevor, I've just thought as Kay Doors of Noble Bear character,
• 54:07
  did you check your bin? Yeah, I may have him being
• 54:14
  stabbed by one of Lee Odysseus or something.
• 54:17
  Somewhere. I don't know.
• 54:18
  Maybe he's under somebody's foot or something.
• 54:20
  I'm not sure. No, I swear I had that figure.
• 54:24
  The female barbarian. I know I have a female
• 54:26
  barbarian, but I could not find it.
• 54:29
  Oh wow. Yeah.
• 54:31
  She's been popped and swapped. Yeah, it.
• 54:34
  Could be the problem? It's possible.
• 54:37
  Yeah, yeah, I think it must. Be nightmare.
• 54:39
  Sorry. Mad.
• 54:40
  Here I go. Sorry, no, I was just going to
• 54:41
  say to Trevor, I'll ask Trevor or say to Trevor, I guess as
• 54:46
  much as it's a job, it must also actually be really fun going
• 54:51
  back and getting to look at and hang a hat, you know, analyze, I
• 54:55
  guess in a way when you're doing the shoot of the older figures
• 54:58
  that you maybe haven't paid as much attention to for a while.
• 55:02
  It is actually like, that's interesting.
• 55:04
  You say that because it is. It has been like kind of like
• 55:06
  rediscovering some of these figures and some of the
• 55:09
  alternate looks to, you know, to some of them and some of the
• 55:13
  things that I never put on, like the skirt on the original
• 55:16
  Artemis, you know what I mean? I never, I just never put that
• 55:19
  piece on. And then of course for the
• 55:20
  pictures you want to have all the, you know, the way it should
• 55:23
  look with the accessories on and stuff.
• 55:24
  So that's been kind of fun and also challenging because you
• 55:30
  know, obviously some of those older figures, you know, like
• 55:33
  Artemis, you know, with the wings and getting her to stand
• 55:36
  up and and and they're older figures for me because so
• 55:41
  they're, you know, some of the limbs are a little loose and
• 55:42
  stuff and just getting them into a stock, you know, basic pose is
• 55:48
  tricky sometimes. But it has been interesting to
• 55:51
  go back and look at some of those things.
• 55:52
  Yeah, that's definitely. I'm guessing there staff is just
• 55:56
  sat by the side of her on the floor.
• 56:00
  God, I pulled. I pulled some of the convocation
• 56:02
  off yesterday. I was like balaam.
• 56:04
  I think I shot and she's right next to Balan and like, if you
• 56:08
  just breathe wrong, she just falls over.
• 56:10
  It's just, it's it doesn't matter how I put the staff.
• 56:14
  She's on a stand. It's like, oh, I'm dreading that
• 56:17
  one. She's.
• 56:18
  Great, I love. That figure.
• 56:19
  But Oh yeah, her ankles are just like a nice.
• 56:21
  Beautiful, but you're going to have to Photoshop out a stand
• 56:24
  here, aren't you? Probably.
• 56:27
  Possibly with her, yeah. I reckon we'll get a 2.0 at some
• 56:31
  point. Hopefully.
• 56:33
  Be nice, yeah. And I see for example for the
• 56:37
  exclusives and stuff, they have a they give the example of the
• 56:40
  Furious 4, which made sense for being at Mesquite Con with in
• 56:44
  their hometown. It's a beautiful two spray, two
• 56:48
  page spread shows, the five kind of versions you can make of the
• 56:52
  figure, the packaged con exclusive, and the singles.
• 56:57
  Trevor's amazing picture that I actually have framed up on my
• 57:00
  wall behind me here somewhere. Picture of the four guys.
• 57:05
  Maybe not as nice as that picture you took, Trevor, but
• 57:09
  picture nonetheless. And he parches amazing art then
• 57:13
  as well. So yeah, that's AI mean those
• 57:16
  guys can frame that page of that book, that's for sure.
• 57:19
  Yeah, it's going. To be so much fun just to sit
• 57:21
  down with this book and just always not only have it at your
• 57:25
  fingertips for as a resource, but just to sit and just slowly
• 57:29
  peruse it when you know. But.
• 57:31
  Also some of the behind the scenes stories and stuff about
• 57:35
  the things. That's, that's sweet.
• 57:37
  And if you did actually just want to sort your figures out,
• 57:40
  it's much nicer, you know, through all your parts, down on
• 57:43
  the carpet or, you know, on the coffee table.
• 57:46
  Open up the book, go, oh, that's his source.
• 57:49
  That's his thing. If you wanted to, you know, put
• 57:51
  them in Baggies and put them together, maybe label them in
• 57:55
  little bags like like we should be doing rather than like me
• 58:00
  having a shoe box full of accessories from like Advent of
• 58:03
  decay that I'm not sure goes, I'm sure I could figure out.
• 58:06
  But you know anyone that's not holding the weapon on the shelf?
• 58:10
  It's in this box. Yeah, I'm sure my store custom
• 58:15
  what's going on Trevor, I think, yeah.
• 58:19
  I kind of made. I was having heart palpitations
• 58:21
  like just like mixing in a in a like a like a a fishing tackle
• 58:26
  box which is a good way to store them.
• 58:27
  But like I'm like I'm just saying retentive about I've
• 58:31
  always been that way about my toys.
• 58:32
  I'm either even kind of disappointed that I didn't
• 58:35
  didn't separate my my specific Star Wars weapons from I have
• 58:40
  them all but they're not like because some of the colors were
• 58:42
  different that came with the different figures.
• 58:45
  You know, and that's the same case with these.
• 58:46
  And I'm wondering like down the line how picky people are going
• 58:49
  to get like, Oh no, that wasn't the spear that came with, you
• 58:53
  know, Balam, because Balam spear was like a silvery black and
• 58:57
  this is like a silvery brown. The amount customize with the
• 59:01
  amount of customizing in this line, it's going to be
• 59:03
  impossible for things like that to be honest.
• 59:06
  I think it's, I think it's going to get like that though, because
• 59:08
  there are people like that Star Wars figures and the MOTU
• 59:11
  figures, they get a little like, no, no, that's not the original
• 59:14
  spirit that came with this figure, you know, that's not the
• 59:16
  one. Look, look at this book from 20
• 59:18
  years ago that was done for the 1st 10 years.
• 59:26
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it doesn't sound like our
• 59:28
  problem, but yeah. And also, yeah, for you
• 59:33
  photographers, for example, if you want to take a figure down
• 59:36
  off the shelf and take a picture, you probably want to
• 59:40
  have the right weapons with them.
• 59:42
  So if you have them on the shelf with certain weapons and you
• 59:46
  want to get their spear and you're like, oh, is this the
• 59:49
  right spear That can be. That can be something.
• 59:53
  And due to all the popping and swapping, it's just nice to have
• 59:55
  this as a reference to Go. Wait a minute, did I not re pop
• 1:00:00
  the right thing on to that after I swamped Temporary?
• 1:00:03
  And we're all collectors. We love physical stuff.
• 1:00:07
  We love physical media. You know, as much as we like
• 1:00:10
  online, and obviously, you know, we do live streams, podcasts,
• 1:00:12
  all the online stuff, we love the physical media.
• 1:00:16
  And this is another part of it, you know.
• 1:00:21
  So I assumed that the reception in the room was pretty.
• 1:00:26
  It's pretty energetic to this and.
• 1:00:28
  So I think it was. It was.
• 1:00:31
  I think a lot of people in that room were like this, this is
• 1:00:33
  awesome. This is great.
• 1:00:34
  I mean, as I've said before, excuse me, as much as I think
• 1:00:39
  the story book that we'll get will be awesome, this is the
• 1:00:43
  this is more my kind of thing that I like to buy, I think.
• 1:00:47
  It was the last thing people saw coming too, right?
• 1:00:50
  Was it yet another book? So it was a real surprise, Yeah.
• 1:00:54
  And Rich being a spreadsheet guy, how are you on coffee table
• 1:00:59
  books? I love coffee table books.
• 1:01:01
  I've got Masters, Universe, Warn, Marble, DC, all that sort
• 1:01:07
  of stuff. I've I'm eyeing up AGI Joe,
• 1:01:09
  vintage coffee table. The one that the one that Bill,
• 1:01:14
  who's Joe Crazy Bill had on the show?
• 1:01:17
  Oh yeah. Which just looks incredible.
• 1:01:19
  So I'm I'm all over this. Even as a nun like I wasn't a
• 1:01:22
  vintage Joe person, I'm still looking at that book going wow,
• 1:01:27
  if I could swing it or if it was easier to get across the water
• 1:01:32
  or whatever it looks I. Love Yeah, the shipping is not
• 1:01:35
  changing. It's just you get all the card
• 1:01:37
  backs in it, you know, on that particular book.
• 1:01:40
  For example, it's not as relevant here to the Legion's
• 1:01:43
  book because obviously each wave has their own card back.
• 1:01:46
  But it's not like GI Joe, each figure had their own file card,
• 1:01:50
  you know, and card back. That's it's sweet to get the art
• 1:01:55
  from that. And yeah, so the two books come
• 1:01:59
  in for their legions now. I mean that for me, that's
• 1:02:02
  almost more exciting. That's as exciting as the game
• 1:02:04
  or, you know, a comic or whatever media you talk.
• 1:02:08
  About a game. Apparently.
• 1:02:11
  I was going to say the books will actually arrive, so that'll
• 1:02:13
  be something. Well yeah, I was just going to
• 1:02:15
  say I love what Jeremy was saying too about the you know
• 1:02:18
  we'll be pre ordering that, but they're just going to be ready
• 1:02:20
  to go. So he's yeah.
• 1:02:21
  With that month we. Get it in hand.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah, I mean even if even if he's optimistic on that because
• 1:02:29
  you know, obviously they're not book people as such, but he did
• 1:02:33
  say that they will be ready to go when the pre-order opens.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah, So even in the worst case, it's not going to take that long
• 1:02:41
  compared to like compared to a figure order or or a game
• 1:02:45
  pre-order. And quite honestly, from what
• 1:02:48
  he's saying, they'll actually be very quickly more valuable than
• 1:02:53
  you've paid what you've paid for them, because they're not going
• 1:02:55
  to print off tons of them. They're doing, they're doing it
• 1:02:59
  so that they can get an idea of how many.
• 1:03:02
  They. Need, and obviously they'll then
• 1:03:04
  produce a few more. Of course they're saying.
• 1:03:08
  Well, it'll be as fast as they get the pictures, so if you want
• 1:03:12
  this quickly. But I take it to you'll be
• 1:03:19
  pretty proud of this at the end, Trevor.
• 1:03:21
  After you know once. Yeah, it's going to be cool.
• 1:03:23
  Like, I just picked up a book from the the original
• 1:03:29
  photographer for like the Star Wars toys, like all the pictures
• 1:03:32
  and stuff that appeared in the packaging.
• 1:03:35
  And he's got like 4 volumes of the things.
• 1:03:37
  I just picked up one or two. I'll probably pick up the rest
• 1:03:40
  of them just because it's like it's cool and like, you know,
• 1:03:44
  this isn't quite that. But like, I can, I can see, you
• 1:03:47
  know, in my old age, like 10 years from now, like putting a
• 1:03:53
  book together, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:54
  Like like like, oh, I have to take behind the scenes photos or
• 1:03:58
  I'll never be able to do a photo or a book like that.
• 1:04:01
  But yeah, I mean, it's going to be cool to see all that stuff up
• 1:04:05
  in there. Yeah, it's.
• 1:04:08
  Like. For me, no one's the.
• 1:04:10
  Legacy right here. This is it.
• 1:04:12
  I'm kidding. You know, knowing you, Nate
• 1:04:14
  barge, you know Jeremy was involved.
• 1:04:17
  Obviously we know the people from the studio.
• 1:04:19
  That just makes it even more special, you know, for for all
• 1:04:22
  of us, you know, and the fact that all those people are just
• 1:04:26
  dead sound in the community and, you know, completely
• 1:04:30
  approachable and nice people and it just kind of makes you feel
• 1:04:33
  even better about, pardon, with your cash for cool item like
• 1:04:37
  that. Yeah, that's the.
• 1:04:40
  Whole line I think. Yeah, yeah, I think so.
• 1:04:44
  Yeah, I think that's part of it. You know there is even if
• 1:04:46
  there's bumps in the road, they're very easy to overcome
• 1:04:48
  when when it's people like that are behind it, you know?
• 1:04:52
  Yep. And right.
• 1:04:55
  So that was the book announcement then.
• 1:04:58
  Was that the kind of that was the kind of end of the the
• 1:05:03
  mythic meet up kind of formal part or did you hang around then
• 1:05:06
  for the rest of the evening? Giveaways and then we get
• 1:05:11
  everybody hung out for quite a while actually, I think, right?
• 1:05:14
  Yeah. Yeah, we had to.
• 1:05:15
  Get out of there at a certain time.
• 1:05:16
  But yeah, let. Me get the lobby like sort of
• 1:05:19
  like the legions can many legions can lobby gathering.
• 1:05:24
  And hung out there. Was there any crack, was there
• 1:05:27
  any any sorry, anything? Yeah, it was.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, it was a good one. I ended up doing my usual
• 1:05:40
  getting carried away and staying up till the last few people,
• 1:05:45
  which I think one of whom was Travis that night.
• 1:05:47
  So named named the last few people then just to just to give
• 1:05:51
  us an idea, you don't remember his.
• 1:05:53
  Mixture of tired and drunk. And was it was Eric Miller with
• 1:05:59
  with his family or was he on his own?
• 1:06:01
  On his own. He was on his.
• 1:06:02
  Own. OK, so how was he?
• 1:06:04
  Was a bit more kind of hanging around with people then or you
• 1:06:08
  know it. Was lovely actually.
• 1:06:10
  I sat next to him in during the mythic meet up and it was really
• 1:06:13
  nice to actually have a chat with him and then he he we all
• 1:06:17
  he joined us for breakfast and tea on the Sunday jumping.
• 1:06:22
  Forward a bit. So yeah, it was good to.
• 1:06:24
  Actually get to have a proper chat with him.
• 1:06:27
  He made the smart move and brought his cadre of heads with
• 1:06:31
  him to the meet up and. Some.
• 1:06:34
  Good idea, Yeah. Which was sneaky.
• 1:06:38
  I was kind of, you know, before Legions Con last year.
• 1:06:41
  I was kind of like ah, you know, I'll leave it to the con,
• 1:06:43
  whatever, but I think actually just sell whenever you can is
• 1:06:46
  basically my new advice. That's it.
• 1:06:48
  You know, I'm we sold loads and we're perfectly happy with it.
• 1:06:52
  But actually, you know, I'm not saving stuff for people that
• 1:06:55
  happen to be there at the con where we all know if you want to
• 1:06:59
  head, you know, our painted piece, you know, I'd sell it in
• 1:07:03
  the bar. It's no bother.
• 1:07:06
  I think that is certainly a good idea.
• 1:07:09
  Yeah, because Eric's is like Eric is a seriously nice guy.
• 1:07:12
  I got to know those guys that that crew the mythic neighbors a
• 1:07:15
  bit better with helping them at the start of their show.
• 1:07:19
  Just get the tech together and and a few bits and they're all
• 1:07:23
  seriously nice guys. You know Wyatt, I hadn't ever
• 1:07:28
  really chatted Dwight before and haven't met him because he
• 1:07:30
  wasn't at the last two legions, cons, What a guy.
• 1:07:33
  And then every and then I found out he's like, he's way younger
• 1:07:36
  than us, Yeah. I was like.
• 1:07:39
  I wish I was that cool at his age, you know, and and and
• 1:07:43
  obviously we all don't know as that sound.
• 1:07:45
  Eric's lovely fan of Mike Xavier didn't know him that well.
• 1:07:49
  Total change. And then Joe Russo, well, I
• 1:07:53
  mean, everyone wants you to be Joe.
• 1:07:55
  Russo, everyone. Else I'd like to be as good
• 1:08:04
  looking as Joe, you know, and living in Florida and you know,
• 1:08:08
  never having had a cold weather day in my life, that kind of
• 1:08:11
  thing, you know? All good guys.
• 1:08:15
  Absolutely. This is making me excited for
• 1:08:18
  legions gone now just hearing about this kind of stuff, you
• 1:08:20
  know? Well that's what was so nice
• 1:08:23
  about mosquito and it was you know it's almost falls kind of
• 1:08:26
  in the middle So we got a little yeah who I think it was Curtis
• 1:08:31
  was he kept saying it like this his cups but you know been
• 1:08:34
  filled back up to help him sustain you know you could see
• 1:08:37
  the next. You could see even Curtis this
• 1:08:39
  week because, you know, when we chatted, we checked to Curtis
• 1:08:43
  very regularly and you could see he has the energy back.
• 1:08:46
  You know he has the kind of Legion's energy back which is
• 1:08:50
  for sure. Yeah, actually do you boys with
• 1:08:55
  no power con this year is there and to kind of fill the middle
• 1:08:58
  of the year now for you guys or? What is this con?
• 1:09:01
  It's coming up right. That's coming up.
• 1:09:05
  Yeah, yeah. And end of April, no, I'm sure
• 1:09:13
  it's end of August, I. Think it's.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah. Is it that late?
• 1:09:16
  I am an. Upcoming advance, so.
• 1:09:19
  Well, that's probably going to be it for me because, I mean,
• 1:09:22
  they're doing a reveal there, so I kind of want to be there for
• 1:09:25
  that. That's if there is no power con.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah, I mean, I I might try to go to San Diego.
• 1:09:31
  I mean, that's not a Legion thing, but.
• 1:09:33
  No, but. But it's a nerd thing If I.
• 1:09:35
  Don't. Yeah, I'll definitely.
• 1:09:37
  I'll definitely try to go to Ishcon.
• 1:09:39
  I really want to check it out. That's 3rd of August river so.
• 1:09:43
  OK. And then you have Retro Con 7th,
• 1:09:46
  8th of December. That's a kind of a big one
• 1:09:48
  usually as well. I heard that's great.
• 1:09:50
  I probably should go check that out too.
• 1:09:52
  That's not too far from you, is it?
• 1:09:56
  Where's that? Is that Ohio or is that
• 1:09:58
  Pennsylvania retro? Con is I.
• 1:10:02
  Don't think it's Ohio that doesn't.
• 1:10:04
  Ring a bell? The great Philadelphia
• 1:10:06
  Philadelphia Expo Center. There you go.
• 1:10:09
  OK, yeah. Well, Philly is, yeah, that's
• 1:10:10
  OPS giving a jump. So definitely do that something.
• 1:10:16
  Yeah, so, you know, look at them.
• 1:10:19
  Look at us here, talking about Khan's rich.
• 1:10:22
  If only, huh. I'm not better.
• 1:10:24
  I'm not twisted. It just looks like it, I say,
• 1:10:27
  glaring like that. That's green.
• 1:10:28
  It's it's not a mark put. Those Bunny ears.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah, exactly. It's a funny one, actually.
• 1:10:35
  Yeah. So my sister-in-law and husband
• 1:10:39
  have, so my wife's brother live next.
• 1:10:41
  You know, they're in the next door house and my wife went over
• 1:10:46
  for coffee this afternoon and she came back and she said oh
• 1:10:50
  you know, my sister-in-law, she, she said she had a funny dream.
• 1:10:52
  She had a dream that we moved back to Ireland, you know, and
• 1:10:56
  we wouldn't tell her why or whatever.
• 1:10:57
  And you know, she was kind of completely confused.
• 1:11:00
  And I was like I said to my wife, I said, you know, there's
• 1:11:03
  no chance I'll ever move back to, you know, it's just too good
• 1:11:06
  here, you know, Well, there is obviously the language thing
• 1:11:10
  would be much easier. But I said if I wanted to move
• 1:11:13
  anywhere for the language, I'd probably move to either America
• 1:11:16
  or Australia because you get a lot more benefits.
• 1:11:20
  And you know, because it's just, you know, obviously with America
• 1:11:24
  there's a lot of opportunities in and you get all this nerd
• 1:11:28
  stuff that we're talking about now is is definitely more
• 1:11:30
  accessible and I've been to Australia once and it's just a
• 1:11:33
  great country. It's kind of like it's like
• 1:11:37
  Europe, but in America kind of mixed together.
• 1:11:39
  I don't know how to explain it. Yeah, it's kind of the best bits
• 1:11:44
  of both kind of thing. Do any problems healthcare?
• 1:11:47
  Do you? Want to even seem to be good?
• 1:11:52
  What's that with the Aussies? Because he hates them.
• 1:11:56
  What's that? Have I done your bid for you?
• 1:12:01
  No, no, no. I was just going to say that why
• 1:12:03
  would you want to live in a country where last me there you
• 1:12:04
  had the shits for a large part of it.
• 1:12:08
  That wasn't the country's fault. I ate an American restaurant
• 1:12:11
  when I was very hungover, and this KFC was the was the was the
• 1:12:18
  culprit there. Yeah, that's.
• 1:12:21
  And I'm not. I don't care if I libel them.
• 1:12:23
  I've eaten in KFC twice and this has happened to me twice in my
• 1:12:26
  life. Well, there you go.
• 1:12:29
  Yeah, in in two different contents.
• 1:12:33
  It might be. You might just have to get used
• 1:12:35
  to it or something like that. Yeah, maybe.
• 1:12:37
  Maybe there's something in the oil that you know, they use that
• 1:12:39
  it just don't tolerate or something you know.
• 1:12:41
  KFC had a special two years ago. It was.
• 1:12:44
  It was 2 Krispy Kreme glazed doughnuts with a chicken
• 1:12:47
  sandwich like fried chicken sandwich in between it.
• 1:12:50
  It was unbelievable. Like I I didn't need anything
• 1:12:55
  all day just so I could. The calorie wise I could because
• 1:12:58
  it was like it was probably 4000 calories or something like that.
• 1:13:01
  Unbelievably good. Unbelievably good.
• 1:13:04
  And then you had fruit the next day just to compensate.
• 1:13:06
  Yeah, yeah, Detox after that. But it was incredible.
• 1:13:10
  It was worth everything. Yeah, as I always say, and I
• 1:13:15
  don't always live by this, but if you're going to eat dessert
• 1:13:18
  and stuff, at least make it be worth it, you know?
• 1:13:20
  Yeah, yeah. Don't be just.
• 1:13:22
  And. Shoving Mars bars into your
• 1:13:24
  mouth, You know, go and get something really nice, you know?
• 1:13:28
  Tiramisu or something? Yeah, I got.
• 1:13:30
  To say the food. I was, I was not surprised, but
• 1:13:34
  like, I was expecting some good food.
• 1:13:35
  But like BBQ, we went to a BBQ place there and skiing and
• 1:13:39
  delicious, good barbecue. And then the last thing, yeah,
• 1:13:45
  pizza was the last thing. I'm like, OK, well, we'll get
• 1:13:47
  some pizza. We'll see how this is, like, you
• 1:13:49
  know, in the New York pizza snob.
• 1:13:52
  Now it wasn't New York pizza and they weren't trying to do that,
• 1:13:54
  which was great, but it was, it was fresh.
• 1:13:56
  This place is great. Top shelf pizza.
• 1:13:58
  Was that it? Top shelf or something?
• 1:14:00
  Top shelf. Freaking delicious, man.
• 1:14:03
  It was really, really good. It was.
• 1:14:04
  Really good, that was. Great.
• 1:14:07
  I love Brad. Brad happened to be with us both
• 1:14:09
  would like to hear. Congratulations was on.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah, he was on doing. Scottish accents all night.
• 1:14:16
  Yeah, he is a lover. They can they don't fake it on
• 1:14:18
  the legions lair, do they? That's not, that's not like an
• 1:14:21
  act. That's just how they are.
• 1:14:23
  That's Brad. Yeah, 100.
• 1:14:26
  Percent. And.
• 1:14:28
  He's. It's always, it's always the
• 1:14:31
  thing with pizza. It's like, as I think I
• 1:14:34
  mentioned before, but there's there's a lot of Italian
• 1:14:36
  heritage here. A lot of Italians came here in
• 1:14:38
  the 50s, There was a building boom.
• 1:14:41
  So there's a lot of really good Italian restaurants as a result,
• 1:14:43
  you know, passed down through the generations.
• 1:14:46
  So the pit, there's great pizza in this country, it's Italian
• 1:14:48
  pizza. So when you go somewhere else,
• 1:14:51
  you're like, well, I'm not going to have the pizza because I have
• 1:14:53
  good pizza at home. Now, maybe New York pizza is
• 1:14:56
  different, of course, so you would get it there.
• 1:14:58
  Of course, any pizza is good if you're hungover, so it doesn't
• 1:15:01
  matter where you are, But it's nice to hear.
• 1:15:03
  Michigan has good pizza as well. That's pretty good.
• 1:15:05
  But. But I like that there's always A
• 1:15:07
  twist on it. Don't do.
• 1:15:08
  You don't have to do the Italian pizza if you're not in Italy, or
• 1:15:11
  if you're not Italian, you know, do your own pizza new.
• 1:15:16
  York Pizza Chicago. Deep dishes.
• 1:15:18
  Oh yeah, even though even that pie.
• 1:15:20
  You know Rich will vomit at this, but even that's
• 1:15:25
  Philadelphia pie. That Anthony, bro.
• 1:15:27
  I love that. Oh, that's tomato pie.
• 1:15:32
  I love it because it's no, it's not pizza, but I love it that
• 1:15:36
  it's it's from there. And it's actually nice if you
• 1:15:39
  it's a chance. It's nice to those guys to bring
• 1:15:46
  when they do share with anybody those house seals.
• 1:15:50
  I mean, a Philly cheese steak would have been nicer.
• 1:15:52
  But yeah, there we go. We went to I I still have it
• 1:15:55
  stuck up here on my wall. The the Jersey Mike's menu.
• 1:15:58
  I look at this every every so often.
• 1:16:01
  That's funny. Yeah, Nice.
• 1:16:04
  I made sure to bring one this time.
• 1:16:06
  I mean, I'm sure I could get it online, but it's nothing better
• 1:16:08
  than having the physical. It's like the book if the
• 1:16:10
  physical copy, you know? So how was Muskie Khan then
• 1:16:16
  itself? Tell us a bit about that.
• 1:16:19
  What? Like, how does it compare size
• 1:16:21
  wise? It's a smaller show for sure.
• 1:16:23
  It was very small really, wasn't it?
• 1:16:25
  It was one whole, well, one whole in a few whole ways.
• 1:16:31
  Variety of stuff. They had some craft stuff some
• 1:16:35
  that a little artist Sally which one of the I thought it was a
• 1:16:39
  really good idea that as you came in, well, if you were doing
• 1:16:43
  the mythics meet mythics there was what it had its own line.
• 1:16:46
  But if you were just going into the con the sort of artist Sally
• 1:16:49
  was there. You had to walk through it to
• 1:16:51
  get into the rest of the con which I thought was a really
• 1:16:54
  good way of setting that up to make sure people went and
• 1:16:56
  looked. But yeah you got a variety of
• 1:16:59
  things. You got Jewel, a lot of jewelry,
• 1:17:03
  other craft things, a couple of some vintage toys, some modern
• 1:17:08
  toys, some of the sort of local entertainment things that were
• 1:17:12
  advertising their their shows and things.
• 1:17:15
  It was it was, it was nice little con.
• 1:17:18
  It's very cool. And you were you were working in
• 1:17:21
  the Travis's booth, Nate, is that right?
• 1:17:25
  I was working in no, I was actually working the Four
• 1:17:27
  Horsemen table. With Travis.
• 1:17:28
  With Travis, OK. Yeah.
• 1:17:30
  So second you're doing that, it was a blast.
• 1:17:32
  I love being back there and you know, it's a great way.
• 1:17:35
  You see everyone you know. It's you and Travis it.
• 1:17:38
  Yep. And.
• 1:17:39
  Jeremy was back there this this year a little bit.
• 1:17:41
  Oh yeah, of course. But last year it was CB and Jim
• 1:17:45
  and they just, you know, let them be able to go out and enjoy
• 1:17:48
  and pulling whatever. So but yeah, I have a blast
• 1:17:51
  doing that. And one of my favorite parts is
• 1:17:54
  just brand new people coming by that's this and getting to
• 1:17:57
  explain it and talk to them all about it.
• 1:18:00
  And then, you know, showing them right next to the tables, Steven
• 1:18:03
  and Curtis and, you know, for Wolf King.
• 1:18:07
  And then there's Eric Miller. And then there was Frank, who
• 1:18:10
  had some amazing stuff, you know, Carver Customs and Dusty.
• 1:18:15
  So explaining the whole pop and swap nature and you know,
• 1:18:18
  letting them handle some figures, that's great.
• 1:18:22
  I heard Jeremy DeWitt on their last episode of the podcast
• 1:18:25
  talking about his friend Sebold, who went down the Mythics rabbit
• 1:18:29
  hole. Now, since we picked up a couple
• 1:18:32
  of figures and now he's literally chasing Travis like a
• 1:18:35
  kind of a, you know, a drug like, like as if Travis is a
• 1:18:38
  drug dealer and he's a drug addict, you know, anything.
• 1:18:41
  I thought that was hilarious. You got any more of those
• 1:18:44
  mythics, man, We've all been there.
• 1:18:48
  You know, like I cannot like obviously in that there's a lot
• 1:18:55
  of legions collectors in that little small town just because
• 1:18:58
  of you know, they have a group and they are all into it.
• 1:19:00
  Now that must be crazy to get into it.
• 1:19:03
  Then when you when you you have so much on top then as it is
• 1:19:08
  because I remember when I got into it, it was very hard just
• 1:19:10
  to get a figure to see what they were like, you know.
• 1:19:15
  And then there was also a period kind of maybe around the COVID
• 1:19:20
  time when it was very hard to get a figure as well unless you
• 1:19:23
  were on eBay. And now it's the kind of dream
• 1:19:28
  times if you want to just get three or four figures and we'll
• 1:19:31
  see what they're like, you know, dip your tongue.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah. Well, that's people.
• 1:19:38
  Even. Yeah, sorry Nate, you need to
• 1:19:42
  you need to head off. I I do indeed.
• 1:19:45
  Yeah, no problem. Apologies, I know that went by
• 1:19:48
  really quick but. No problem.
• 1:19:49
  Thanks for so you have no more. You have no more dirt to do dish
• 1:19:54
  on these two boys before you go. My house, it was.
• 1:20:01
  It was an absolute blast. Having those guys here, I mean,
• 1:20:04
  made it that much more special, you know?
• 1:20:06
  It was amazing. Absolutely.
• 1:20:08
  It's really for so much. Fun.
• 1:20:10
  Yeah. No, I hope to to make it over
• 1:20:13
  that part of America at some stage, whether it's for me,
• 1:20:16
  Mosquito, Khan or just for for for pleasure.
• 1:20:19
  Just. Result just result pile to.
• 1:20:21
  Welcome anytime. Yeah, we did see salt piles.
• 1:20:24
  I'm going to, I'm going to Detroit to hook up with Nate so
• 1:20:27
  he can look after me. And then we go over to Mosquito.
• 1:20:30
  You know, I need, I need some. I need somebody reliable to look
• 1:20:33
  after me. Yeah.
• 1:20:35
  You know, I I did book. I didn't tell Trevor this, but I
• 1:20:38
  did book our our room specialist that because we could look over
• 1:20:41
  the salt piles from my room. Yeah, it.
• 1:20:44
  Was it was magnificent. Glorious.
• 1:20:46
  What a view? Absolutely, Absolutely.
• 1:20:49
  All right, guys, I'll have. You listening to the rest of
• 1:20:52
  this, but thanks again for. We'll we'll have a chat about a
• 1:20:56
  few more things here and wrap it up, but thanks a million,
• 1:20:58
  Cheers. Wonderful.
• 1:20:59
  Cheers. Cheers.
• 1:21:00
  Have. Fun.
• 1:21:02
  Thanks. Right.
• 1:21:07
  No. Dish the dirt on the no.
• 1:21:14
  He was great. He was great.
• 1:21:19
  Yes, that's a very good, very special thought trooper.
• 1:21:22
  Of driving. Yep.
• 1:21:25
  So she was driving you around or?
• 1:21:27
  No, no, no, he was. Driving I mean, but you know
• 1:21:30
  driving us back from Detroit it, you know rush hour and across
• 1:21:34
  the across the state and stuff. So he, yeah, he was great.
• 1:21:37
  He was. He's always great.
• 1:21:38
  Yeah, because Detroit is quite a big city, isn't it?
• 1:21:42
  Yeah. Detroit's busy and yeah, just
• 1:21:46
  even get, you know, getting out of the airport there and getting
• 1:21:48
  home, it was great. We, we tried Coney Dogs.
• 1:21:52
  We, we had a little discussion about Coney dogs, which is
• 1:21:56
  something that comes from Coney Island originally.
• 1:21:58
  But I guess some people, how did they go?
• 1:22:00
  Mel, do you remember? They emigrated from emigrated,
• 1:22:04
  but they moved from Coney Island from New York to Detroit and it
• 1:22:07
  became sort of a Detroit thing. Then at that point they switched
• 1:22:11
  it up and put some different. Yeah.
• 1:22:14
  Several, something like. States had their own, or several
• 1:22:17
  cities across America had their own version of the Coney Dock
• 1:22:21
  and yeah. Now, I don't know if we went to
• 1:22:23
  the best place in the world for it, but it's basically a hot dog
• 1:22:28
  with meat, chili and onions. And I guess you can put mustard
• 1:22:32
  on it if you want. And you know, it's kind of like
• 1:22:35
  it sounds. Yeah, the greatest.
• 1:22:38
  Food in the world? But we had to try it, so we did.
• 1:22:41
  Yeah. Oh, that's cool.
• 1:22:42
  Yeah. When in Rome kind of thing,
• 1:22:44
  yeah. Exactly.
• 1:22:45
  I love it. Yeah.
• 1:22:47
  Cool. So did you guys pick anything up
• 1:22:49
  then at Mosquito Con? Yeah.
• 1:22:53
  Get Trevor go first. What did what Did you get Trevor
• 1:22:56
  there? You can go.
• 1:22:57
  OK. Yeah.
• 1:22:58
  I got. Go ahead.
• 1:23:01
  I got. What did I get?
• 1:23:03
  I got. I picked up a Sarah Wayne and a
• 1:23:05
  Sir Tibius. Or Tibius because I had to be a
• 1:23:09
  previous. Yes, Sir Tibius.
• 1:23:11
  He's going up in the world of. The of of the baseball.
• 1:23:16
  Because I hadn't previously picked them up, I just thought
• 1:23:19
  I'm not that fussed by them. And you know, in some ways I'm
• 1:23:24
  not super fuss. They're not my first choice, but
• 1:23:27
  the fact that they were there and haven't got them and it's
• 1:23:29
  the cheapest. I'm going to get them, I
• 1:23:30
  thoughts. I'm going to get them.
• 1:23:31
  I'm going to pick them up. People talk about Sir Owen's
• 1:23:35
  armor and how cool that is. So I thought I'd grab him
• 1:23:38
  another Parks. Let's just have parts.
• 1:23:40
  Really few heads off. Wolf King The Char 70.
• 1:23:48
  I forget the dates. Oh yeah.
• 1:23:51
  Kerber custom. Yeah, yeah, the carved customs,
• 1:23:54
  the robot. Oh, you got.
• 1:23:55
  Some Oh, yeah, that's brilliant. Yeah.
• 1:23:57
  I love that thing. Oh yeah, and a print off Jeremy
• 1:24:10
  do it, which I thought by the time I got back it was going to
• 1:24:14
  get trashed, but it's actually in Immaculate condition.
• 1:24:16
  I'm a little bit. Taken about Is that the Nintendo
• 1:24:19
  one? Is it?
• 1:24:20
  No, I completely forgot about that one, although I didn't see
• 1:24:24
  it after I'd bought the other one again.
• 1:24:27
  But there's spoiler sorry guys, I'm sure they won't mind me
• 1:24:33
  saying, but sounds like they are going to do AT shirt of that, so
• 1:24:37
  I think I could rather have that on the T-shirt.
• 1:24:39
  Or the T-shirt, yeah. Yeah, that'll be a good T-shirt.
• 1:24:43
  And that was about it. And obviously I brought you guys
• 1:24:46
  stuff back from Anthony how seal that you were pre-ordered
• 1:24:49
  beforehand and that's yeah, that's.
• 1:24:52
  Awesome. Yeah.
• 1:24:53
  And I think Anthony has thrown in a few things to give away for
• 1:24:56
  us. So once I sort through that or
• 1:24:59
  once we get them sorted through, we'll definitely do something
• 1:25:04
  for that. And you, Trevor, Did you break
• 1:25:07
  the banker? I picked up a bunch of stuff, no
• 1:25:10
  figures except an elf figure from Nate who he was getting rid
• 1:25:14
  of. An elf legion builder.
• 1:25:16
  Oh, nice. Dang.
• 1:25:17
  Studios had some prints there. Along with their.
• 1:25:21
  Coloring book, which I got another copy of because I I
• 1:25:23
  realized I I gave them all away. So I I gave them I like I need
• 1:25:29
  one of another. Coloring book.
• 1:25:30
  I gave them all away. But yeah, I guess his friend
• 1:25:33
  puts these things together. This is like a little like I'm
• 1:25:37
  I'm thinking like a bloodbath but it's all these little
• 1:25:39
  Dragons around like a kind of like a bird bath ish type of
• 1:25:44
  situation there. Just pretty.
• 1:25:45
  Squeeze. So that was from Dang Studios,
• 1:25:51
  from Wolf King. Against my better judgment, I
• 1:25:53
  picked up two sculpts to paint. Because I don't.
• 1:25:55
  I've got like probably 400 sculpts that I have to, yeah and
• 1:25:59
  but these are. Two good ones.
• 1:26:01
  The duck, really good duck from Jason Rodriguez and the right.
• 1:26:05
  Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  And the bite Is that the bitey vampire?
• 1:26:10
  Is that what he's called? Yes.
• 1:26:11
  Yeah, this is a big over scale one, yeah.
• 1:26:14
  Oh, nice. Yeah, bitey.
• 1:26:16
  Bitey wasn't I think. Bitey.
• 1:26:19
  They had some great stuff. They had like some some guns and
• 1:26:22
  stuff for COSMIC and I just like, I have to temper myself
• 1:26:26
  because I just have too much stuff that I'll never get
• 1:26:28
  through. Corey Schatzenhoffer was there
• 1:26:31
  with like a bag of stuff, just handing stuff out.
• 1:26:33
  So I don't have the thing that he had, but he had like a bunch
• 1:26:37
  of like like familiar type things that would go on the arm,
• 1:26:42
  much like Valix Bird, but they had a bat crow or something.
• 1:26:49
  We're cool. That's a great.
• 1:26:50
  It's a great idea. Yeah.
• 1:26:52
  Snake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:54
  Nate picked up the. Snake.
• 1:26:55
  That's a sweet head, he. Just threw me this one.
• 1:26:57
  So this was. Great.
• 1:26:58
  Wow. So it's an Arc Legion builder
• 1:27:00
  with a beard on it, basically. Yep.
• 1:27:03
  A. Couple of Eric Miller sculpts
• 1:27:06
  this guy right here just a beautiful.
• 1:27:08
  Oh God, that's amazing. Just.
• 1:27:09
  Plain head, right? Like, I mean it's.
• 1:27:11
  Kind of like this would be a cosmic aviator.
• 1:27:13
  I don't want beard. Kind of cosmic.
• 1:27:15
  Yeah. Yeah, human.
• 1:27:16
  He might go into Double Barre. We'll see.
• 1:27:18
  Or maybe. Rich is going to.
• 1:27:24
  Be a night. Maybe he'll be a night.
• 1:27:25
  Rich. OK, maybe.
• 1:27:26
  There we go. That's.
• 1:27:27
  All right. Got to be in the army.
• 1:27:29
  Elite. Yes, Yes, surely.
• 1:27:31
  Oh, and that amazing female with the one with his brown?
• 1:27:36
  That is amazing. That's beautiful.
• 1:27:37
  I mean, it's beautiful. And I got to say like I saw.
• 1:27:40
  Who sculpts that? Steve sculpts that one.
• 1:27:43
  I think this is planetary dog toys.
• 1:27:46
  Yeah, pretty sure. It looks like they're doing
• 1:27:47
  toys. The only the only issue there is
• 1:27:50
  that she's got to kind of have a a tilt because of this bun.
• 1:27:53
  It just it won't obviously go. Fair enough.
• 1:27:56
  But that's fine. It still looks good.
• 1:27:58
  And he, I mean he painted. It he makes up for Steve Miller
• 1:28:01
  lack of articulation. Exactly.
• 1:28:04
  Yeah. It.
• 1:28:05
  Just looks good and. Then from Our Lord Steve
• 1:28:09
  Bouchardi, I think Nate and I picked up inadvertently the same
• 1:28:14
  exact heads, but I just love this guy and eat.
• 1:28:17
  Pink and it's so well over scale with the kind of tones.
• 1:28:20
  Ponytail on a bald head. Yeah, it's amazing.
• 1:28:23
  It's a real like doofy looking like pin head type ogre guy and
• 1:28:29
  it's. Steve is really good at matching
• 1:28:30
  the skin tones, I have to say. Really good.
• 1:28:33
  I mean it's it's dead nuts on it's really.
• 1:28:36
  Yeah, you don't need to fudge it.
• 1:28:38
  Yeah, very nice. And then I I think people have
• 1:28:44
  talked about this, but I was shocked, frankly.
• 1:28:47
  I was there with a table filled with customs.
• 1:28:50
  Yeah, Frank. Where was Frank at Legions Con
• 1:28:53
  Because like, he just came out of the blue there and he's got a
• 1:28:55
  table full of customs. Amazing.
• 1:28:58
  Well, he said. Because people were like Frank,
• 1:29:00
  you got to get a table at Legions Con.
• 1:29:02
  He's like, that is my, like, vacation, my enjoyable time.
• 1:29:07
  He's like, I don't want to be tied to a table.
• 1:29:09
  You don't want to be OK. Which I get, I get.
• 1:29:13
  But man, so he he did this. I got another fear.
• 1:29:16
  So I've got Fury orcs from. It's kind of my thing.
• 1:29:18
  That I go. Into.
• 1:29:20
  Customizing. People.
• 1:29:23
  Yeah, really, really beautiful paint job on that.
• 1:29:27
  And then I got. A I was going to say I think big
• 1:29:31
  head studios are selling that head in that color legions con
• 1:29:34
  and I didn't get it and I'm still kicking myself.
• 1:29:36
  You're still. You're still annoyed.
• 1:29:42
  Nice. Oh.
• 1:29:44
  My God. Oh, it already kind of snapped
• 1:29:47
  in Trend Transit, but man, it's just like.
• 1:29:50
  These all amazing so this is over scale with with basically
• 1:29:55
  their third party arm pieces, Pauldrons head obviously and
• 1:30:01
  lower. Legs and the.
• 1:30:03
  Lowest sole that set. And what's what is that?
• 1:30:07
  What is that? Is that also part of the set?
• 1:30:09
  The belt piece and the and the skirt?
• 1:30:11
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:14
  I think it's it's yeah. I think the whole thing is is
• 1:30:16
  part of the set right Malcolm, I think that's.
• 1:30:19
  I think so, yeah, it was. I just remember it's kind of a
• 1:30:22
  World of Warcraft sort of styles into it and.
• 1:30:27
  Very dark. Sort of like wolf head.
• 1:30:30
  I mean it's it's the articulation is a little limited
• 1:30:33
  because of this. Although the legs are fantastic,
• 1:30:35
  the lower legs are incredible. But I just love to look at that.
• 1:30:39
  It was great. Yeah, yeah, no.
• 1:30:40
  But he's the kind of figure you can just get on a reasonable
• 1:30:43
  pose on your shelf and it's going to look amazing.
• 1:30:47
  You know, you don't need it to be.
• 1:30:49
  You don't need it to be really super articulated on your shelf.
• 1:30:53
  Wow, that's awesome. That's awesome.
• 1:30:55
  Yeah. There's a couple of things I
• 1:30:57
  completely forgot. I got a couple of.
• 1:31:01
  I picked up a couple of capes from Darla by Oh yeah, Yeah.
• 1:31:07
  Yeah. And the Stevens?
• 1:31:09
  As well I saw, I think it was. I can't remember who it was, but
• 1:31:14
  they had a Cape for Melena or yellow Cape and it really, it
• 1:31:20
  really upped that figure. I like that figure anyway.
• 1:31:23
  But it might have been Amber Gonzalez.
• 1:31:25
  Yes. And that with the yellow Cape
• 1:31:30
  from Darla and really nice fabric and the wire obviously in
• 1:31:34
  it as well. Wow.
• 1:31:35
  It made Melina twice as kind of cool, you know.
• 1:31:38
  And she. I like her.
• 1:31:39
  Some people are. She's a little bit of a Marmite
• 1:31:41
  figure. She's kind of a People either
• 1:31:43
  love or hate her, But yeah, I like her.
• 1:31:48
  Least liked figure. I know, I know, I know.
• 1:31:51
  I remember the fact it was like, yeah.
• 1:31:53
  She does. Yeah, she does.
• 1:31:55
  Like, give her, give her a spell effect, give her, give her a
• 1:31:57
  cake. There you go.
• 1:31:59
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cakes were great.
• 1:32:04
  He had. He had one for Lady Avarona,
• 1:32:06
  which was cool. Kind of matched her, so I picked
• 1:32:08
  up. Oh yeah.
• 1:32:11
  Yeah, so the people that were there for legions that Muskie
• 1:32:14
  Khan, they did pretty well or you think they were happy enough
• 1:32:18
  with the with the whole thing? I think they did.
• 1:32:22
  I think most people did reasonably well.
• 1:32:24
  I mean, it's a, again, small con, diverse audience because I
• 1:32:29
  think there's a lot of things, you know, as Malcolm said,
• 1:32:32
  there's a lot of artwork there, kind of anime stuff for kids and
• 1:32:36
  things like that and some crafts.
• 1:32:38
  And crafts. So it's not like hardcore, you
• 1:32:41
  know, there are some, like you said, there's some vintage stuff
• 1:32:44
  there, but it's not a hardcore toy con as of yet.
• 1:32:48
  So yeah, I think people were discovering the lines and then
• 1:32:53
  kind of going over to the people who are in that area and going
• 1:32:56
  oh, so these heads go on here or I could get that.
• 1:33:00
  So you know kind of just discovering it that way.
• 1:33:02
  But yeah, I don't know. I hope everybody did well enough
• 1:33:05
  to make it worth worthwhile. I mean, I know it's it's just
• 1:33:09
  great to hang out, but you know if you're spending that much
• 1:33:12
  time you do want to make your. Yeah, you want to make your a
• 1:33:15
  little less, A bit more? Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 1:33:18
  I understand. That's cool, right?
• 1:33:22
  So should we chat a little bit maybe about the the next little
• 1:33:28
  while for legions? What's going to happen, how
• 1:33:31
  we're feeling about it? So obviously Trevor can be
• 1:33:38
  slightly compromised in this because he's obviously the
• 1:33:44
  official photographer of the line if you've been with us this
• 1:33:46
  far. But we're in a kind of a little
• 1:33:51
  I would say a little low period at the moment.
• 1:33:53
  It's very much how would you say it's a kind of a false slow
• 1:33:58
  period I would say. I mean obviously the guys are at
• 1:34:01
  cons like you know this past weekend they've been at Atlanta
• 1:34:05
  and the New Jersey toy Con and and obviously they're at Muski
• 1:34:10
  Con the year the week before. They've just come off the big
• 1:34:13
  shipping for the in stock sale which is I think still ongoing.
• 1:34:16
  I know Rich you got your your shipping notice for that so
• 1:34:19
  you're I'd be happier Bunny. I got mine I got mine in as
• 1:34:25
  well. I actually got mine in.
• 1:34:26
  So I've been shipping out the boxes to the people that I got
• 1:34:31
  extra figures for and I'm going through what I have myself and I
• 1:34:35
  opened it to mistrust because I hadn't had him and very
• 1:34:39
  impressed. Kind of need to get a second or
• 1:34:41
  third one now just to for customs, but I don't know
• 1:34:46
  whatever, I I think I was just trying to get out with my
• 1:34:48
  basket. You know, I should have put
• 1:34:51
  another two or three of him in there.
• 1:34:53
  But by the by and yeah, we're in that kind of period now where
• 1:34:58
  you'd be thinking about if there's going to be an All Stars
• 1:35:01
  that's going to have to start cropping its head fairly soon in
• 1:35:06
  terms of voting or or chat about that.
• 1:35:10
  We obviously have the awesome retailer wave that we just put
• 1:35:13
  in our order for boys. Yep, that's that's why we're in
• 1:35:18
  a low As soon as that's finished at the end of this month, yeah,
• 1:35:21
  then the floodgates can open again.
• 1:35:23
  Then it's like. It's all just all stuff.
• 1:35:25
  And they can, Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
• 1:35:28
  And I can tell you from from our little group pre-order that we
• 1:35:32
  did and the cosmic figure got heavily ordered in that and you
• 1:35:39
  know, we all got a cup, we all got at least one monkey, one
• 1:35:45
  Marley. And yes, Trevor has the vintage
• 1:35:48
  version and Mal has them as well, probably not to hand, but
• 1:35:51
  yeah, he has them and it's amazing.
• 1:35:55
  As we were saying on the show there a while ago, Trevor, there
• 1:35:58
  was probably guys that had them listed on eBay for months and
• 1:36:01
  that's they're all being sold. Oh yeah.
• 1:36:05
  Oh yeah. I.
• 1:36:07
  I bookmarked or liked a bunch of them and then guys were like,
• 1:36:10
  like, hey, I'll give you 10% off, 15% off 20%.
• 1:36:15
  Off like you don't know You could double the price here,
• 1:36:18
  buddy. Exactly, exactly.
• 1:36:21
  And. No idea.
• 1:36:22
  So I think we're we're probably talking 2 to one 'cause that
• 1:36:27
  cosmic figure to the rest for us, which was pretty impressive.
• 1:36:31
  But I loved the Monkey King as well.
• 1:36:32
  The more I looked at that, I thought I have to get at least
• 1:36:34
  two of them, even just from. What's going on this weekend?
• 1:36:42
  In Atlanta, Yeah, Atlanta toy con dead factory samples, but
• 1:36:48
  they just look the same as the ones Trevor took of the
• 1:36:51
  prototype, which is always incredible.
• 1:36:54
  I like the extra brightness on the monkey now and the brighter
• 1:36:58
  gold, but I do love the original one as well.
• 1:37:01
  So but it's nice to have bought but.
• 1:37:04
  I never know what's coming when those come in, like sometimes
• 1:37:07
  I'll ask or sometimes I'll get advance notice or something.
• 1:37:09
  But they just told me that they were coming and I opened them
• 1:37:13
  up. And so I'm guessing like
• 1:37:15
  everybody else, like as I'm opening the box and I thought
• 1:37:18
  for sure. And it's one of those things
• 1:37:20
  where you're like, you know, like everybody on the Cabal will
• 1:37:24
  or not everybody, but certain people on the Cabal will go, oh,
• 1:37:26
  I wanted it to be barbarian Santa, you know what I mean?
• 1:37:30
  Like that. And I I was thinking snow monkey
• 1:37:32
  the entire thing. I was thinking like this is
• 1:37:34
  going to be snow colored. This is going to be, you know,
• 1:37:37
  like and I got, I was like. Oh.
• 1:37:40
  OK, kind. Of similar.
• 1:37:44
  Did you run and get your other monkey king and say what's the
• 1:37:47
  difference here? No, no, no.
• 1:37:48
  I saw it, but it like and I like it.
• 1:37:51
  But you know, it wasn't. It wasn't as drastic a
• 1:37:54
  difference as I expected it to be.
• 1:37:56
  And then the the Marley was like a complete surprise, like the
• 1:38:00
  whole Haunted Mansion, you know, style was interesting, you know.
• 1:38:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So is it easier for you, Trevor,
• 1:38:09
  if you know what they're going to send you?
• 1:38:11
  Or is it more fun and exciting but more difficult if you don't
• 1:38:14
  know? In terms of photography, that's.
• 1:38:17
  An interesting question. Like in terms of the like like
• 1:38:22
  that stuff, the retailer stuff, it doesn't matter.
• 1:38:23
  I'm just taking pictures in black and it doesn't really
• 1:38:25
  matter. But in terms of like especially
• 1:38:29
  with Cosmic, because with Mythic you can kind of like, all right,
• 1:38:34
  here's yet another figure that could go sort of in a castle
• 1:38:37
  forest, you know, setting like that.
• 1:38:41
  You know what I mean? Like with Cosmic, it's so scene
• 1:38:44
  specific and so that like with with Ox Crew, we had to talk
• 1:38:48
  about it. I mean I was, I'm not going to,
• 1:38:51
  I was kind of on them about like I was talking to Eric about it,
• 1:38:54
  Eric Tretaway and like like I let's start talking about like
• 1:38:58
  what kind of setting you want for this next wave because if I
• 1:39:01
  have to get a dial made or something like that and they
• 1:39:04
  ultimately made the dial, but it's very specific, you know you
• 1:39:07
  got to have that stuff ready. I'm doing having a dial made for
• 1:39:10
  something else right now and I had the dial made for Marley
• 1:39:13
  knowing that that was coming. So yeah, knowing what's coming
• 1:39:17
  is definitely, when it comes to that more specific stuff is very
• 1:39:21
  helpful because trying to come up with some sort of setting to
• 1:39:25
  fit some of these things is tricky.
• 1:39:28
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely more, do you
• 1:39:33
  think is some of that your your Star Wars fandom as well, is
• 1:39:37
  some of that that you're kind of very more specific about the
• 1:39:42
  sci-fi or or is it just the nature of the line?
• 1:39:47
  I think it's just more, I think it's more the nature of the
• 1:39:49
  line, but it is like I do want to depict it the way they want
• 1:39:52
  it shown and not just because there was that what was the what
• 1:39:57
  was the intermediate wave there they.
• 1:40:01
  Were getting. Outpost Axius, which in the
• 1:40:06
  description, you know Jeremy had given me, that's the other thing
• 1:40:08
  with that is you're getting stories along with that that
• 1:40:10
  like tell and kind of describe where they are.
• 1:40:15
  And I kind of had to go back to the the Crash box custom, which
• 1:40:21
  is a great set, but I had used it, you know for for other
• 1:40:25
  things and I kind of wanted, I wish I could have had something
• 1:40:28
  more specific to that setting. But it worked out.
• 1:40:31
  I mean you do what you can can do with with these things, but
• 1:40:34
  it's gotten to be such a thing that you want to like really
• 1:40:37
  knock it out of the park, you know what I mean?
• 1:40:39
  So it's with Cosmic, it's just a matter of I want to have the
• 1:40:43
  right environment, you know, like with the with the minor,
• 1:40:47
  you know, that was easy. I could do like a like he's in a
• 1:40:49
  mine, like I can make it look like he's in a mine with stuff
• 1:40:52
  that I have lying around. But you know, other specific
• 1:40:55
  stuff you definitely want to have a heads up.
• 1:40:58
  Yeah, you're right that there is this, there is a lot more story
• 1:41:01
  from the start with COSMIC. I mean that's obviously how
• 1:41:03
  they're approaching it and with Jeremy and, you know, more
• 1:41:06
  involved from the start here. So yeah, I think you're, you're
• 1:41:10
  doing right by it to try and get it right, if you know what I
• 1:41:13
  mean. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:41:15
  And you don't want to, you know, maybe if there is a comic book
• 1:41:19
  or whatever of this, which is more likely than not, I would
• 1:41:23
  say there's going to be some sort of media with COSMIC at
• 1:41:25
  some stage you wanted to maybe be.
• 1:41:28
  Oh yeah, that's actually related to what I shot back in the day.
• 1:41:32
  Yeah, the basis for, I mean we had a literal discussion about
• 1:41:35
  the Oxcrew thing that was like kind of like the one I had with
• 1:41:39
  Crash Box about coming up with the prison.
• 1:41:41
  Look, you know, I mean Eric had given us like a wall to go by
• 1:41:44
  and then we had to kind of come up with the rest.
• 1:41:46
  And this, this one, I was talking with Eric and Jeremy and
• 1:41:49
  saying, OK, what color is the sand?
• 1:41:52
  You know, like if this is like a sandy, you know, dirt planet.
• 1:41:56
  I don't want to just do like Tatooine, you know what I mean?
• 1:41:58
  Like it should be your own thing.
• 1:42:00
  Like you should start coming up with, you know, that kind of
• 1:42:05
  lore on top of just the of the lore of the story and the lore
• 1:42:08
  of the people. Like what are these planets look
• 1:42:10
  like? They should look different than
• 1:42:11
  anything else that is out there in terms of sci-fi, which is
• 1:42:14
  where we came up with like the purple rocks and the red, orange
• 1:42:18
  sand and things like that. Creature the skate back is is
• 1:42:21
  blending into the environment which is a very cool thing and
• 1:42:25
  beautifully which is actually. So good.
• 1:42:27
  And it's actually the, the point where you tell me if you
• 1:42:30
  mentioned that wave Oxcrew, I can close my eyes and picture
• 1:42:34
  what it looks like. It's that kind of purple
• 1:42:36
  environment, you know? And I can see the kind of crates
• 1:42:40
  and all that kind of stuff. Yeah.
• 1:42:42
  Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:42:45
  Tricky. Often when we look at these
• 1:42:47
  photos, you don't understand the pain that goes into them.
• 1:42:50
  Sometimes, you know, it's a bit like, yeah, it's a bit like the,
• 1:42:55
  you know, I can see I have a better appreciation now of when
• 1:42:59
  I see someone that has an amazing paint job and the
• 1:43:01
  custom. I can understand a bit the pain
• 1:43:04
  that maybe went into that at some point and how it's.
• 1:43:08
  All four too, Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:43:12
  You're establishing a lore that's again, is going to like
• 1:43:14
  feed into people's like, like you said, if there's a comic
• 1:43:17
  book or something comes comes out, this is kind of going to be
• 1:43:20
  the basis for it. So I definitely want it to be on
• 1:43:23
  the money. Yeah, I like I I can guarantee
• 1:43:26
  the first picture you take every time of you know of of your
• 1:43:29
  environment shots is not the one you keep.
• 1:43:31
  Usually you know you've deleted maybe 20 pics before you get the
• 1:43:35
  right one, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:43:37
  Yeah, for sure. Yep.
• 1:43:39
  Right. So in terms of All Stars, if
• 1:43:42
  we're to get All Stars, is, is that something you'd like them,
• 1:43:45
  you'd like them to continue? Trevor, you an All Stars fan or
• 1:43:49
  or? I am.
• 1:43:51
  It's funny enough I was having a conversation with Curtis and
• 1:43:54
  Jeremy at Muskee Khan about All Stars.
• 1:43:56
  Now we all know if we know Curtis Curtis is not a fan of
• 1:43:59
  All Stars. No, isn't known yet.
• 1:44:04
  I like All Stars. I like the I like having the
• 1:44:07
  ability to get stuff that I don't have even if it's stuff
• 1:44:09
  that I do have you know picking up an extra 1 for for parts or
• 1:44:13
  or just the idea that people who are coming into it now still
• 1:44:17
  have the opportunity to get some of those older figures.
• 1:44:19
  I I realize they're not as exciting, which is Curtis's I
• 1:44:23
  think argument that they're just, they're kind of, you know,
• 1:44:26
  boring in relationship to what we're getting now in terms of
• 1:44:29
  even just the parts that come with them.
• 1:44:31
  And you know, we see him over and over again.
• 1:44:33
  He's a customizer. That's what he's looking for,
• 1:44:35
  stuff like that, but. Collectors are, they're not.
• 1:44:41
  They're all strange. People are all strange, and
• 1:44:44
  people just sometimes want to have that figure and you can't
• 1:44:48
  ever explain to them, But this other skeleton is way better, or
• 1:44:53
  this other demon is like way more accessories.
• 1:44:56
  And they're like, yeah, but I want the yellow guy, you know,
• 1:44:59
  that's literally just, you know for example.
• 1:45:03
  And so like all I'd say is we've all, we have all also all four
• 1:45:09
  here not chatting now have all benefited from an All Stars wave
• 1:45:12
  at some stage. In fact, another collection, you
• 1:45:15
  know, and I have a lot more awesome of a collection than I
• 1:45:18
  would have because of the All Stars wave.
• 1:45:20
  So in that way I'm a fan. In another way I would like them
• 1:45:27
  to tweak it a little bit in that maybe make a couple of version
• 1:45:30
  twos mixed with maybe 2 All Stars or something like this and
• 1:45:36
  you know like 11 like really mega rare All Star like or like
• 1:45:43
  they had the alumni last year which is really hard to get.
• 1:45:47
  Figures that maybe have been re released but are still super
• 1:45:51
  popular. And then one wild card that you
• 1:45:55
  know anything from wave one that hasn't been re released people
• 1:45:58
  are going to want, doesn't matter.
• 1:46:01
  No, they're not going to be the highest selling figure of the
• 1:46:03
  line. That's the other thing for the
• 1:46:05
  horseman, because as much as auto for example sells for
• 1:46:11
  whatever 100 on eBay, that could be just 20 guys looking for an
• 1:46:15
  auto, you know, you know, 5-6 hundred £600 but that's not
• 1:46:22
  good. That's not going to translate
• 1:46:23
  into 56000 orders at the horseman.
• 1:46:26
  For an auto, it might do, but if you were to put out an amazing
• 1:46:32
  knight with a cool head sculpt with modern soft goods that they
• 1:46:37
  have and modern swords, that definitely will sell
• 1:46:43
  gangbusters, you know, So that's that's what you have to kind of
• 1:46:48
  put it against, I think. They're looking at it now as and
• 1:46:51
  just again. This is nothing from the horse's
• 1:46:53
  mouth or the horseman's mouth. No, we take, we take.
• 1:46:57
  Everything as as your opinion here.
• 1:46:59
  It's gospel. Yes.
• 1:47:00
  OK. OK, good.
• 1:47:02
  Yeah. I mean, I think they're looking
• 1:47:03
  at it now is like, if there is a character like Otho that you're
• 1:47:06
  just, it's not, it's almost not worth it.
• 1:47:09
  You, everybody's expecting this. And I again, I don't know if
• 1:47:12
  this is happening, but everybody's expecting A2 point O
• 1:47:15
  on Otho, you know what I mean? And to just go back and say hey
• 1:47:19
  let's put Otho in an All Star so everybody can get Otho.
• 1:47:22
  I'm sure there are people who want, you know, they're
• 1:47:24
  completists like me. I I paid through the nose for
• 1:47:26
  Otho. I would have loved to have paid
• 1:47:29
  $3540 for Otho, that'd be great. But if there's a two point OI
• 1:47:34
  think a lot of people who are coming into it.
• 1:47:36
  I mean, I'm replacing at least on the shelf.
• 1:47:39
  I keep them elsewhere, but like, I'm replacing a lot of the
• 1:47:42
  figures, the one point O figures of of these things, we're
• 1:47:45
  getting the 2.0 version, version twos of with the version twos,
• 1:47:50
  you know what I mean? So I think a lot of people are
• 1:47:53
  happy with that enough. So I don't think you're going to
• 1:47:55
  get a lot of that stuff, you know, like.
• 1:47:57
  I don't know what I'm going to do with version 1 Attila.
• 1:48:00
  You know, for example, version one Attila.
• 1:48:05
  Nice. I got him on the shelf and he
• 1:48:07
  looks good. Figure I'm kind of putting them
• 1:48:09
  on another shelf. Yeah.
• 1:48:12
  Yeah. I.
• 1:48:14
  Kind of Odysseus a little bit before and then he and then he
• 1:48:19
  he found he found a nice buffing cloth and he got his armor a
• 1:48:23
  little bit better. Gold, right?
• 1:48:27
  And he found a good hairdresser in Mythos to give him that
• 1:48:31
  beautiful unhelmeted. That's right space marine look
• 1:48:37
  rich. What do you think of All Stars?
• 1:48:40
  Is it something for you or would you like new figures or version
• 1:48:44
  twos? I like the way they do it now
• 1:48:46
  with a combination of new stuff and some of the original stuff.
• 1:48:49
  I mean, don't be wrong when things like Clavian when I'm up
• 1:48:52
  in arms and kicking puppies around but screaming.
• 1:48:56
  I needed Clavian and I got Clavian.
• 1:48:58
  I'm happy when. I'm Clavian.
• 1:49:01
  I love what it generates in the community and think in my chat
• 1:49:04
  with Korean, I said I love All Star Season because it's just
• 1:49:08
  bananas and there is really annoying people who and they
• 1:49:13
  could be otherwise, people that I love to chat to who just get
• 1:49:16
  on the meme train with the certain figure and you might
• 1:49:20
  have to put them on mute. For a few.
• 1:49:22
  Days, you know or whatever. But that's fine.
• 1:49:27
  But it works. Look, there was always the guy
• 1:49:29
  can't remember his name now this everyone century he had some of
• 1:49:33
  the best ever all stress pose. He never won if they're clever.
• 1:49:37
  But he got it in great. He got it in.
• 1:49:39
  He got it in reinforcements. Wave.
• 1:49:43
  Brilliant. So it worked out, and it was
• 1:49:45
  clearly a popular figure. It did get votes.
• 1:49:47
  It just was always 4th, you know?
• 1:49:50
  It's like when you finish 4th at the Olympics.
• 1:49:52
  Is it a failure? Probably not.
• 1:49:53
  But it sucks, you know? And so yeah.
• 1:49:59
  I thought, my I. Just love that kind of crack.
• 1:50:01
  I thought my better red and dead Clavian button was was.
• 1:50:09
  I love it. And I mean, obviously now that
• 1:50:11
  we do Allegiance Show, I mean, it's obviously bonus time for us
• 1:50:15
  in terms of chat and you know, eh, content from the community.
• 1:50:20
  It's like perfect. I love all that kind of All
• 1:50:22
  Stars talk. It's fun.
• 1:50:24
  And it's definitely fun. Like, it's like the kind of
• 1:50:27
  thing of, you know, you see this guy on eBay for a couple of
• 1:50:31
  £100, you could actually get this for retail like our, you
• 1:50:35
  know, direct horseman price, if you're lucky, in a couple of
• 1:50:39
  weeks time. And then you have to just sit on
• 1:50:41
  your hands for six months a year to get it in hand.
• 1:50:44
  But it's coming, you know, like nobody's searching for, sorry
• 1:50:49
  Rich, nobody's searching for Clavian on eBay.
• 1:50:51
  Now they know he's coming, you know.
• 1:50:54
  But that sort of thing you said, John, you know you have to wait
• 1:50:56
  6 to 12 months and that's another good thing with this is
• 1:50:59
  it's quicker turn around. It's like, you know, yes, pox,
• 1:51:02
  this was an extreme over 2 years, but you know, the bigger
• 1:51:05
  waves take longer, whereas these ones, they can get them out
• 1:51:07
  quicker and people like that sort of thing, you know, I like
• 1:51:09
  that sort of thing. Yep.
• 1:51:12
  Yeah, they're basically almost five is sweet.
• 1:51:16
  And like. Production time.
• 1:51:18
  That's the kind of stuff I want is like, I want that gold
• 1:51:21
  skeleton to be redone because I don't want to pay $500.00 for
• 1:51:24
  that. Stupid gold skeleton and.
• 1:51:26
  That's what I'm talking about. That's why I wanted Clavian.
• 1:51:28
  Like, I'm not paying for $400.00 for Clavian.
• 1:51:31
  I just can't bring myself to do it.
• 1:51:32
  So that's the kind of stuff I want.
• 1:51:34
  On the other hand, I kind of do like the Othos, kind of an, you
• 1:51:40
  know, a little bit of an exclusive club, kind of like
• 1:51:45
  that's a. Totally not right.
• 1:51:47
  But like, I kind of like it. I have the type of collector
• 1:51:50
  that I collect the character. So if I have version 2, auto
• 1:51:55
  version one and I can only have one of them, I don't care.
• 1:51:58
  I want the character. Yeah and but I also find it cool
• 1:52:03
  that there's a lot of guys out there that have the original
• 1:52:05
  auto. It's very hard to get commands a
• 1:52:08
  huge price on eBay. Good for them.
• 1:52:12
  There's no way of really getting it now and turned into profit.
• 1:52:15
  It's like ID, you got it back in the day and you've held it for
• 1:52:18
  six years or eight years, 10 years.
• 1:52:21
  Fair play. If you want to sell it for £600,
• 1:52:24
  that's your that's your business now.
• 1:52:25
  You know you've had it for 10 years.
• 1:52:29
  It's going for a high value. If you want to liquidate it and
• 1:52:32
  buy, you know, 20 figures for yourself instead 20 new figures
• 1:52:37
  or whatever it is, go for it. You know, I mean, I I don't
• 1:52:40
  think that's that's absolutely the benefit of being a
• 1:52:43
  collector. You know, sometimes you're
• 1:52:45
  lucky. Sometimes you buy a figure like
• 1:52:48
  Bride Fighters, one of my favorites.
• 1:52:50
  He's never going to be a big price, you know, That's just it.
• 1:52:54
  It's never going to be retail, John Lemon.
• 1:52:55
  Never a big price. Don't think so, Trevor, at this
• 1:52:59
  stage. But waited out.
• 1:53:02
  That's absolutely. Fine, you know.
• 1:53:04
  Waited out and and all those one point OS or version ones have
• 1:53:09
  gone way down in price since the version two point OS have come
• 1:53:13
  out of You know, you know Attila and you know Atlas and all those
• 1:53:19
  things have come down so as soon as Otho two point O comes out
• 1:53:22
  you'll be able to get an Otho for maybe. 250 at that point,
• 1:53:27
  But it's even like, like, I I don't think it's an amazing
• 1:53:30
  figure but I love the gold skeleton and I remember, yeah,
• 1:53:34
  probably when I decided I'd really like that figure.
• 1:53:37
  I wonder if I could get it was probably at £100 in the
• 1:53:41
  community or $100 going around. So you know we're talking 5-6
• 1:53:44
  years ago and I was like, no, I'm not paying that for it.
• 1:53:48
  There's no way then I'm paying today's prices for it because I
• 1:53:51
  wasn't willing to pay on it hasn't got better, you know.
• 1:53:55
  Now it's got more rare, but like I had my chance at 100 or maybe
• 1:54:00
  110 or whatever plus shipping or you know, you get some, you get
• 1:54:05
  a friend to to to ship it to in the States and you pick it up,
• 1:54:09
  whatever. But that's gone now.
• 1:54:12
  I missed the opportunity. Hard luck.
• 1:54:14
  You know move on, you know and pray that it gets out in the two
• 1:54:17
  point or in All Stars. And if it doesn't, I I realized
• 1:54:22
  it's very difficult to be a completist in allegiance.
• 1:54:25
  But you can be as complete as you want, and you can decide
• 1:54:29
  like at some stage it was like, maybe I should just get all the
• 1:54:31
  motives, not not just only, but I should just complete the
• 1:54:37
  motives. And then I was like, on on can.
• 1:54:38
  It's just too high. So I repainted an orc when we
• 1:54:41
  got those orc legion builders in the first reinforcements.
• 1:54:45
  And I was like, OK, I'm happy enough for that.
• 1:54:47
  It's not complete complete, but it's complete for me.
• 1:54:50
  And then I was like, OK, I need to pick my favorite factions to
• 1:54:56
  be complete. So Basilia is my favorite
• 1:54:58
  faction. So I managed to get the Blue
• 1:55:00
  Dwarf Jordan for good, 80 or 8090 or something.
• 1:55:05
  Yeah, it is a good faction to complete.
• 1:55:07
  But I was looking, I kind of, well, I I mean, I knew like
• 1:55:10
  that, you know, that was one of my favorites.
• 1:55:12
  And I was like, OK, it's my favorite.
• 1:55:14
  And I only had him to complete it.
• 1:55:16
  So I was like, OK, that's easy. But it wouldn't have been easy
• 1:55:18
  if he was a 500 figure. At the time, he was probably
• 1:55:21
  around 100. And I got a good deal off Travis
• 1:55:24
  for 80 happy days, and he sent me a load of heads to paint for
• 1:55:30
  him and we did a deal on that. So, you know, I got AI, got a
• 1:55:34
  good deal on it. But if you're looking at our
• 1:55:37
  tears to try and complete, you got a couple of very heavy
• 1:55:40
  hitter, expensive orcs there. It's a good.
• 1:55:43
  Approach and I tell people that all the time, but it is
• 1:55:47
  difficult because when I started out I was like not interested in
• 1:55:51
  vampires. I'm not getting vampires.
• 1:55:52
  And as soon as you pick up a vampire or they improve the
• 1:55:58
  vampires, like they didn't know Lithia and they give you some
• 1:56:00
  cool stuff like a guy with a, you know, a hawk, you're like,
• 1:56:03
  oh, oh, I guess. I guess they're kind of like
• 1:56:08
  vampires now, so. Yeah, the skeletons, you know, I
• 1:56:13
  mean, for Necronomadus shrug. And Necronomadus comes out and
• 1:56:17
  he's like, I thought that was so cool, even like the most basic
• 1:56:21
  skeleton that they do. Yeah, he's awesome.
• 1:56:26
  But so we talked recently about, you know, we we realized now
• 1:56:32
  they're back around to the start of the factions and we had a
• 1:56:34
  chat about what we'd like in Arthur and the Odysseus, your
• 1:56:39
  favorite faction. Trevor, if I'm right on that,
• 1:56:42
  what other factions do they need to maybe sprinkle a couple of
• 1:56:45
  figures in this year throughout the waves if we're, if we're not
• 1:56:50
  thinking about, you know, versus waves or anything, I definitely
• 1:56:54
  think it's time for a vampire too rich.
• 1:56:56
  What are you thinking? Oh, there's always time for
• 1:56:59
  vampire, yeah. But.
• 1:57:01
  But really, especially, you know, what are we looking for in
• 1:57:06
  the vampires? It would be in Lithia's brood,
• 1:57:10
  but I'd actually pivot slightly and I'd put a werewolf in.
• 1:57:14
  Oh. They're very closely assertive.
• 1:57:16
  Sage with a lot of literature and Eric's already come out and
• 1:57:21
  said there's werewolves in Mythos.
• 1:57:23
  So you know, I, you know what you'd have to do and inside
• 1:57:26
  faction of werewolves, just put one, maybe two in Lithia's brood
• 1:57:29
  and then you've got that. And isn't there?
• 1:57:32
  Isn't there a figure obscura that you could use some of those
• 1:57:34
  parts for as well then? Brute scale werewolf.
• 1:57:41
  Yes, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:57:43
  Yeah. I think since getting the last
• 1:57:46
  two brute scales, I want nearly brute scale everything.
• 1:57:49
  I know. Definitely the Orcs.
• 1:57:51
  That Bruce scale looks so good. And Calazir is magnificent.
• 1:57:56
  And I'm. I'm actually just realizing I've
• 1:57:58
  made a Boo Boo and I don't have an extra calazir.
• 1:58:01
  So I need to maybe rectify that just to have I always even if I
• 1:58:07
  don't have a custom idea, if if a figure is so good like I
• 1:58:11
  remember with the Monkey King I knew it was going to be so good
• 1:58:15
  so I just ordered an extra even though I didn't have any clue
• 1:58:18
  and I haven't done anything with it.
• 1:58:20
  But I'm so happy I and even though we have the retailer
• 1:58:22
  version coming I'm so happy I have an extra monkey.
• 1:58:25
  It just makes me feel better and and I feel like that way with
• 1:58:28
  Calazir is like at some stage he's going to just be sold out
• 1:58:31
  and I'm like crap I only have one of this guy you know I can't
• 1:58:34
  ever you know do anything with because I always want one of the
• 1:58:38
  original figure you know so now I'm like all those awesome parts
• 1:58:43
  and I can't do anything with them until they come in another
• 1:58:46
  figure. So OK so a couple of vampires
• 1:58:50
  one of the faction. I mean that's not, that's not we
• 1:58:53
  don't need to go near the ones we talked about, but and we
• 1:58:56
  obviously most recently had the Red Star and the Noble bear
• 1:59:02
  Zylonas Flock is always kind of, I feel like it's always getting
• 1:59:06
  a couple of figures here and there.
• 1:59:08
  Yeah, there's a decent like my on my shelves.
• 1:59:10
  If I think about the two most filled out ones, it's our Thea
• 1:59:13
  and Zylonas flock so. And then Etheron and
• 1:59:19
  Necronominus are obviously coming soon.
• 1:59:21
  So, so yeah, you're really, you're back to sprinkling a
• 1:59:26
  couple of Elithea's brewed in there.
• 1:59:30
  I would love to see to have a couple more.
• 1:59:32
  Yeah, yeah. I think it that's got to be
• 1:59:35
  compact though, right? That can't like expand.
• 1:59:38
  Same with Basilia. It's like it's got to almost be
• 1:59:42
  a little contained and not to get too crazy, but I would like
• 1:59:45
  to see. I mean, I know we have a lot of
• 1:59:47
  Orcs, but you know, we're talking about, you know, the
• 1:59:51
  idea that Eric's doesn't like their affiliation with ERA
• 1:59:56
  Theorem wants to break out. I would love to see an.
• 1:59:57
  Orc. Centric wave, you know, with
• 2:00:00
  some. Interaction kind of thing.
• 2:00:02
  Yeah, and some more just interesting takes on Orcs, you
• 2:00:07
  know what I mean? So something like that would be
• 2:00:10
  cool. Maybe a maybe an ORCSA 2 point O
• 2:00:12
  that that figure could use a A2 point O for sure.
• 2:00:16
  Yeah, I think we we mentioned on here the idea of Orcs maybe
• 2:00:21
  being did the 1st female brute scale that would be kind of
• 2:00:26
  cool. The female, yeah.
• 2:00:29
  The the, yeah, exactly. The like the Vorga sized like
• 2:00:32
  like Vorga ask were actually brute scale, but yeah.
• 2:00:35
  Maybe even make her her a bit taller and chunkier.
• 2:00:39
  She's more brute scale, but yeah, that'd.
• 2:00:41
  Be. Cool.
• 2:00:42
  Yeah. I mean, she'd be the female two
• 2:00:43
  point O, but brute scale. Yeah, that works.
• 2:00:47
  But. You got the you got the body
• 2:00:49
  with Nate Neve right? So take that, Yeah.
• 2:00:53
  Yeah. Turn that into an ORC and you're
• 2:00:55
  good to go. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:00:57
  Give her. Yeah, I mean the more and more I
• 2:01:00
  think about it here, I, I do get back to you, Rich that maybe a
• 2:01:04
  couple of new factions here what we're going to start seeing
• 2:01:07
  sprinkling in. Oh goodness, yeah.
• 2:01:09
  I mean, if, if. I don't think we'll go back to a
• 2:01:12
  versus wave. But now is absolutely the time
• 2:01:15
  to do new factions now. They filled out the originals
• 2:01:18
  and everyone's happy to throw some new things in.
• 2:01:22
  Fishman, Lizard men, pirates, you know, racism outside the
• 2:01:27
  landmass, That is mythos, all that sort of stuff, you know?
• 2:01:32
  Now is the time to check it in. I also think that, you know, if
• 2:01:36
  we're thinking that this big dragon is coming, you know,
• 2:01:39
  maybe that kind of dragon type faction, I mean Rhaegar already
• 2:01:43
  into that with the shield, they're already on the symbol,
• 2:01:46
  so heading in that direction. And then they could also get the
• 2:01:53
  Yang for that one, You know, the Ying and the Yang for that one
• 2:01:56
  maybe gone. Well, his character was said to
• 2:01:59
  come out from outside of Mythos itself as well, wasn't it?
• 2:02:02
  So yeah, again, that opens it up to a.
• 2:02:04
  Little mysterious. Do whatever you like.
• 2:02:06
  It's like, you know, you don't have to conform to anything
• 2:02:08
  they've had previously. You can, you know, there could
• 2:02:11
  be a smaller continent somewhere where they've, you know, just
• 2:02:14
  got crazy armor or yeah, whatever.
• 2:02:17
  I mean it's a little too on the nose in terms of Game of
• 2:02:19
  Thrones, but you could see like you know the battle against the
• 2:02:22
  Dark 4 not going well and you know at a dark time suddenly you
• 2:02:29
  know, I don't know either Ray Gore goes.
• 2:02:31
  And on a quest to, you know, find his people and bring them
• 2:02:35
  into this. They're very quiet.
• 2:02:36
  They want to be hidden and they have their dragon riders or
• 2:02:39
  something and they bring out this, you know dragon and to
• 2:02:41
  fight for the the good guys in that part that could be.
• 2:02:43
  Kind of very cool. That.
• 2:02:45
  Would be very cool. Very good.
• 2:02:48
  Well look I think we've, I think we've covered it all and I've
• 2:02:54
  really had a great time. So it's always quick when you're
• 2:02:57
  ahead. Trevor, what have you got going
• 2:03:01
  on the next while or? And then we should know about
• 2:03:03
  what's your next show going to be on the Legions?
• 2:03:08
  Well. That's a good question because
• 2:03:10
  it's tomorrow and I'm not really sure there.
• 2:03:13
  You. Go a couple of ideas.
• 2:03:15
  That aren't panning out. So it may just be an AMA for the
• 2:03:19
  three of us and we're going to talk about a little bit about
• 2:03:23
  pop and Swap All Stars is coming up.
• 2:03:25
  Again, it's it's a little late this year.
• 2:03:28
  We usually do it in like mid March, but it's just there's
• 2:03:31
  been a lot going on obviously basically.
• 2:03:33
  So I'm a little behind on that, but we will talk about that
• 2:03:36
  tomorrow. That's Monday the, I don't even
• 2:03:39
  know the 25th. It was already happened in terms
• 2:03:42
  of this. Yeah, so hopefully you watch.
• 2:03:45
  A. Great.
• 2:03:45
  Show and you really enjoyed it. I have to say, Trevor, as much
• 2:03:50
  as I love your guests and you always have great guests when
• 2:03:53
  you have them on, there's been a couple of shows recently with
• 2:03:56
  the three of you and your great crew and and it's always awesome
• 2:04:01
  and I tend to get a lot out of those shows.
• 2:04:03
  I really enjoy them And because I think I feel like you have
• 2:04:07
  more, you all have more time to talk and yeah, you know, you're
• 2:04:12
  a little bit like me on that show.
• 2:04:13
  You you, you know, you do the kind of intro and you kind of
• 2:04:16
  keep the show moving along. So we always hear a bit from
• 2:04:19
  you, but we get a lot more of Nathan, Bill on the shows where
• 2:04:24
  it's just three of yous and I love that.
• 2:04:27
  Yeah, that's why I think it might be by the time you listen
• 2:04:29
  to this, it may have, it may have been an AMA, which I'm
• 2:04:32
  going to do more of just the three of us.
• 2:04:33
  Just when you're talking about whatever comes up there were
• 2:04:35
  questions that people have in the chat.
• 2:04:37
  It's kind of more of a conversation that way not to you
• 2:04:40
  can do that with the live. Stream as well, you know and
• 2:04:44
  yeah, when we have a live stream, you know we do probably
• 2:04:48
  monthly now with our Patreon, maybe not not quite but we're
• 2:04:51
  trying to do a monthly live stream with our Patreon like we,
• 2:04:55
  it's a public live stream but you know we we kind of have some
• 2:04:58
  Patreon oriented stuff to it. And and yeah, that's probably
• 2:05:02
  the show at least prepare for in terms of because I know that
• 2:05:05
  there will be stuff in the chat and we do a little, we might
• 2:05:09
  have a little bit. Rich obviously does these
• 2:05:11
  amazing drawings for for our live streams, which is probably
• 2:05:14
  why I'm thinking we probably can't do the live stream without
• 2:05:17
  you, Rich So. No, I want to.
• 2:05:20
  I want to be there for the for the all that people hold the
• 2:05:23
  drawings in. So and we probably can't do the
• 2:05:26
  the live stream of the figure that you have that we're giving
• 2:05:29
  away. So yeah, I.
• 2:05:30
  Keep trying to be doing it's. Sword.
• 2:05:32
  It's not a figure. He gave me a sword to give away.
• 2:05:35
  There was no super cool Ogre customer.
• 2:05:37
  Look, I don't know what you're on about.
• 2:05:39
  If we missed, if we miss our live stream in March, we'll have
• 2:05:41
  to do 2 in April. How's, how's about that?
• 2:05:44
  Can I tell you down to that? Are you going to be on 4G land
• 2:05:48
  in April? Too often I can work.
• 2:05:50
  Around it, don't worry. Very good, very good.
• 2:05:52
  And we're going to try and get it on the weekend because we
• 2:05:55
  like to invite our patrons on and obviously you're one of
• 2:05:58
  those, Trevor. So if we do our next live stream
• 2:06:01
  on a weekend, we'd love to have you on and any of the other
• 2:06:04
  patrons during the patron. Exactly, Yeah, do join the
• 2:06:08
  patrons. Good fun.
• 2:06:10
  We try and give you value for money and when we can we will
• 2:06:13
  give early access and as you've heard from Trevor, we're
• 2:06:16
  recording this at the weekend before or Friday release, so you
• 2:06:19
  lovely patrons will definitely get this long before that.
• 2:06:23
  So that'll be fun for you and absolutely brilliant.
• 2:06:28
  Thanks for joining us Trevor, and obviously Nate beforehand.
• 2:06:32
  Great to chat and always great to chat with.
• 2:06:35
  One more thing before we go. Yeah, always good to see you
• 2:06:38
  too. I've got one correction to make,
• 2:06:41
  Ishkhan. It is actually the 3rd of
• 2:06:44
  August. Yeah, that's what I said.
• 2:06:46
  Yeah, that's. What You said I did you sorry.
• 2:06:50
  But I do have one more thing actually Intern for a Day,
• 2:06:55
  Intern for a Day is coming up with the Horseman and the
• 2:06:58
  applications are open. Now we have all three applies on
• 2:07:02
  this podcast, hoping that one of us hits the jackpot and as
• 2:07:07
  Jeremy said on the live stream, my Holden to us.
• 2:07:09
  If one of us wins the internal lottery he's going to invite,
• 2:07:12
  let us invite the other two. See.
• 2:07:15
  I would love to like. I would love to watch the show
• 2:07:18
  though. Where dilemma.
• 2:07:19
  Yeah, the other two have to fight to be able to join the
• 2:07:23
  war. I've not told them Trevor, but
• 2:07:26
  if my name comes out, I'm not inviting either of these two.
• 2:07:31
  You're going to invite Dave Williams because he brought.
• 2:07:33
  You know, coming exactly. We on, Yeah.
• 2:07:38
  Oh, we could. Do it like like a spin the
• 2:07:39
  wheel. Yeah, on a live stream.
• 2:07:41
  That would be fun. Yeah.
• 2:07:44
  Don't do it, Jeremy. Just invite all three of us.
• 2:07:47
  Yeah. And then we'll get Trevor to
• 2:07:49
  present to us. He's Tony.
• 2:07:52
  He's Tony. Photography magic.
• 2:07:53
  So that would be awesome. Don't sell it too.
• 2:07:58
  Hard trip. He's intimidated John by my
• 2:08:05
  drawings. He's like, no, I can't on the
• 2:08:06
  same heart. He's rich, right?
• 2:08:08
  It's like. You'll be doing the card after
• 2:08:12
  no time. Take it easy.
• 2:08:16
  Take it easy. Happy Easter, everybody.
• 2:08:18
  Yeah, Bunny man. Stay safe.
• 2:08:26
  Don't choke on Easter eggs. Stay safe.