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The Sky People: Six Seriously Strange UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Everyone.
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Speaker 2: My name is Preston Dennett. Thank you for joining me
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Speaker 2: for a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I
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Speaker 2: truly appreciate it. Got a great episode for you Today,
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Speaker 2: I certainly hope so going to be talking about humanoids.
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Speaker 2: I call this episode the sky People six seriously Strange
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Speaker 2: encounters with humanoids. These are not just grays. These are
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Speaker 2: definitely all kinds of humanoids. And when I say seriously unusual,
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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. These cases are off the charts bizarre.
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Speaker 2: These cases come from all over the world, including Argentina, Australia, Brazil, England, Italy,
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Speaker 2: and one from the United States Nebraska. And yeah, each
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Speaker 2: of these cases is so unusual. I think they provide
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Speaker 2: unique insights and provide more information to help us really
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Speaker 2: understand the extracrustrial presence on our planet. I also have
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Speaker 2: one case which actually I was able to obtain a
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Speaker 2: recorded testimony from the witness himself, so that's a real treat.
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Speaker 2: Let's get started. First case I want to talk about today,
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Speaker 2: I call a spaceship from another world. This one occurred
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Speaker 2: one day in nineteen fifty eight in Berlen, Argentina. It's
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Speaker 2: a fantastic case because The witness has great credentials and
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Speaker 2: describes his experience in details and was able to have
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Speaker 2: a very long conversation with this apparent extraterrestrial. This case
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Speaker 2: was published in Argentine newspapers but has not been widely publicized.
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Speaker 2: The sole witness is Fernando Arquibola Garcia. He is a
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Speaker 2: radio and electronics technician and professor of electronics at a
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Speaker 2: public school and an inventor, including inventing Elie electronic thermometers.
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Speaker 2: Saw a great witness. It was around four a m.
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Speaker 2: One morning in January of nineteen fifty eight that Fernando,
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Speaker 2: age forty two, packed up a donkey and traveled about
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Speaker 2: eight kilometers south of the small city of Blen This
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Speaker 2: is at the location of the San Antonio tungsten mine
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Speaker 2: in the desert. Who was actually on a prospecting and
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Speaker 2: surveying mission in search of minerals, and he arrived at
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Speaker 2: his destination around seven a m. And began his search again.
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Speaker 2: This is a very remote area. It was around noon
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Speaker 2: that he stopped to rest and have lunch, and this
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Speaker 2: is when he began to hear a strange, intermittent buzzing noise.
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Speaker 2: He went to investigate but the buzzing sound stopped and
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Speaker 2: he saw nothing unusual, at least at first, but hearing
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Speaker 2: it again, he now realized it was coming from a
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Speaker 2: small ravine ahead of him, and continuing to look around,
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Speaker 2: he saw quote something that puzzled me. About three hundred
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Speaker 2: feet away in front of him in this little ravine
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Speaker 2: was a weird structure. He first thought it might be
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Speaker 2: some kind of secret government or military building, but he
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Speaker 2: was puzzled because there was not supposed to be anything there.
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Speaker 2: This object was sitting on a tripod landing gear and
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Speaker 2: had windows situated evenly around the perimeter. It appeared to
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Speaker 2: be almost one hundred feet long and about sixty five
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Speaker 2: feet high, and it had a matte olive green color.
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Speaker 2: So curious, he began to approach closer, and he got
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Speaker 2: to within about two hundred feet when he saw what
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Speaker 2: he describes as a periscope type device emerged from the
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Speaker 2: top section of this structure. So he now became even
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Speaker 2: more nervous, as he knew that stumbling upon a secret
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Speaker 2: military operation could be dangerous, as they might quote shoot
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Speaker 2: first and ask questions later. So he stopped where he
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Speaker 2: stood and just looked. It was about one minute later
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Speaker 2: that a figure appeared. Now this figure was unusual. It
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Speaker 2: was over six feet tall and dressed in what appeared
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Speaker 2: to be a white asbestos suit with a visor. This
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Speaker 2: is how Fernando described it. But he was too far
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Speaker 2: away from this figure to see any facial features through
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Speaker 2: this visor. And as Fernando says, we stared at each
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Speaker 2: other for a few seconds, and that's when I heard
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Speaker 2: some sort of birds chirping in my mind.
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Speaker 1: Instantly I heard.
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Speaker 2: A voice in my head speaking impeccable Spanish without an accent.
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Speaker 2: He ordered me to stop and asked who I was.
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Speaker 2: So Fernando, hearing this telepathically in his head, shouted out
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Speaker 2: his name and said that he had been assigned to
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Speaker 2: search this area. And then he asked the strange figure,
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Speaker 2: what is that building? Who does it belong to? And
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Speaker 2: then he said I was given no warning that there
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Speaker 2: were military installations here. Now the being responded, but not
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Speaker 2: in the way Fernando expected, As he says, I got
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Speaker 2: something like a mocking smile. The amazing thing is that
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Speaker 2: I was about seventy meters two hundred and thirty feet
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Speaker 2: away from the individual, and I heard him as if
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Speaker 2: I were one meter away. The figure replied, apparently telepathically,
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Speaker 2: it's not any ground military installation. So Fernando now wondered
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Speaker 2: if perhaps it was a navy structure and asked if
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Speaker 2: he could walk to the other side of what he
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Speaker 2: still assumed was some kind of building, but the being replied,
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Speaker 2: do not move from there. As Fernando says, the being
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Speaker 2: took a thing, a kind of flashlight, and pointed it
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Speaker 2: at a rock. A bright white beam came out of
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Speaker 2: the lantern and struck the stone located thirty meters away.
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Speaker 2: In a matter of seconds, the rock melted away. I
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Speaker 2: felt scared. That was certainly a show of strength, and
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Speaker 2: I stayed still naturally for a few seconds. There was
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Speaker 2: nothing but silence. After this, Fernando asked the being what
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Speaker 2: kind of weapon is that? And the man replied pure energy.
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Speaker 2: And then he pointed to this craft and asked, why
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Speaker 2: do you think that is a military facility, and Fernando replied,
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Speaker 2: because of the olive green color.
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Speaker 1: It looks like a research laboratory.
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Speaker 2: Again, Fernando perceived mentally a kind of mocking smile, and
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Speaker 2: the man told him that it was a non human
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Speaker 2: spacecraft and added, quote, we've had technical difficulties but they
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Speaker 2: will be resolved shortly. So Fernando continued to talk to
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Speaker 2: this figure and asked him, was the buzzing sound I
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Speaker 2: heard due to those technical issues? The man replied in
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Speaker 2: the affirmative. Now Fernando studied the craft with new eyes,
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Speaker 2: looking for an engine or exhaust pipes or anything that
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Speaker 2: would betray its aeronomical nature, but there were none. So
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Speaker 2: again Fernando mentally sensed a mocking smile, and the man,
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Speaker 2: as if reading his mind, replied, the propulsion system is
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Speaker 2: not known to you, and told him that it was
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Speaker 2: inside the craft. Now, Fernando recalled that during his time
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Speaker 2: of employment in the United States earlier he had heard
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Speaker 2: about UFOs, and now looking at the craft, he could
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Speaker 2: see was actually more disc shaped than anything, And again,
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Speaker 2: as if reading his thoughts, the et replied, it's been
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Speaker 2: over twenty thousand years since we visited your planet. Fernando
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Speaker 2: asked him where do you come from? And what followed
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Speaker 2: was about two hours per Fernando of a telepathic conversation
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Speaker 2: with this being. As Fernando says, he claimed that they
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Speaker 2: came from our galaxy, from a planetary system with two sons,
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Speaker 2: one larger than the other. I was given a set
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Speaker 2: of coordinates so that I might pinpoint their location on
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Speaker 2: any star chart of our galaxy. I asked the name
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Speaker 2: of the suns in the planet, but I didn't understand
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Speaker 2: their words. I requested to get on the ship. I
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Speaker 2: was curious, and he replied, do you claim to be
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Speaker 2: six hundred years old overnight? This puzzled Fernando, and he asked,
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Speaker 2: what do you mean, and the et replied, what you
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Speaker 2: can see inside there is unintelligible to your mind. We
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Speaker 2: are separated by fifty thousand years of civilization, and the
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Speaker 2: men paciqued to elaborate on this concept. As Fernando says,
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Speaker 2: he gave me an example. The mayfly. He lives for
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Speaker 2: eight hours on Earth. He explained, if he is born
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Speaker 2: at eight in the morning, he dies at four in
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Speaker 2: the afternoon. That is, it goes through childhood, youth, and
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Speaker 2: maturity in eight hours.
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Speaker 1: That is the time of human beings.
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Speaker 2: Regarding us, we talked about other matters, Atlantis, the Egyptian sphinx,
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Speaker 2: the speed of light. Then he indicated to hide behind
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Speaker 2: the break, throw myself down to the ground and cover
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Speaker 2: my ears. So I did it, and I felt the
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Speaker 2: buzz again. But sharper, and I noticed a strong pressure
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Speaker 2: in my head. The pressure lasted for half a minute.
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Speaker 2: I looked up and saw the quote building about three
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Speaker 2: hundred meters high. It was shaped lenticularly and it shone
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Speaker 2: like metal. It was motionless in space above it was
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Speaker 2: glowing in a blood red Seconds later, it headed northwest
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Speaker 2: and disappeared from sight. I was very impressed.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Researchers, of course, later talked to Fernando and asked him
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Speaker 2: to explain more in depth what the ETS said about Atlantis, and,
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Speaker 2: as Fernando says, it was inhabited by creatures almost four
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Speaker 2: meters high. It was an island in the middle of
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Speaker 2: the Atlantic Ocean. A seismic collapse made it disappear. Now,
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Speaker 2: regarding this sphin, Fernando says that the ETS said that
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Speaker 2: thousands of years ago, another one of their ships landed
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Speaker 2: in Egypt when people were dying of an epidemic. The
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Speaker 2: ETS helped them, saving many lives, and as a thanks,
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Speaker 2: the ancient Egyptians erected the sphinx to honor one of
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Speaker 2: the female ETS who was organizing their rescue. Now, Fernando
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Speaker 2: freely told his story and did agree to have his
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Speaker 2: name used, he wanted to talk about it, as he
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Speaker 2: disagreed with the.
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Speaker 1: UFO cover up.
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Speaker 2: As Fernando says, I have no fear of ridicule. Why
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Speaker 2: shouldn't there be other inhabited worlds? And also because of
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Speaker 2: the repeated absurd denials issued by US investigative committees regarding
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Speaker 2: the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence. Furthermore, if everyone has the
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Speaker 2: right to ask me questions, I in turn have the
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Speaker 2: same right to ask by what logic is the existence
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Speaker 2: of other worlds with civilizations more advanced than ours deemed impossible?
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Speaker 2: How amazing is that there are a number of cases
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Speaker 2: where ET's said that they're having trouble with their craft
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Speaker 2: and are trying to repair it.
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Speaker 1: And here's another one.
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Speaker 2: Also so interesting is that these apparent ets were able
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Speaker 2: to provide all kinds of information about Earth's ancient history,
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Speaker 2: the pyramids and the Sphinx and this sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: We don't hear that often it does come up, but
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Speaker 2: it's certainly fascinating, really interesting. Also, that this gentleman had
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Speaker 2: such high credentials makes me wonder if perhaps they contacted
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Speaker 2: him intentionally. He didn't jump to the ET explanation initially,
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Speaker 2: I think that that gives the case a little bit
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Speaker 2: more credibility. I'm really glad he had the courage and
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Speaker 2: strength to step forward and tell his story publicly, because again,
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Speaker 2: when someone is willing to stand behind their account, that
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Speaker 2: also adds another level of credibility to it. An amazing case.
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Speaker 2: So now let's move to the next one. Also really
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Speaker 2: really unusual. I call this one we are the Sky People.
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Speaker 2: This one occurred actually over a series of days in
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Speaker 2: July of nineteen sixty five in Windang, New South Wales, Australia.
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Speaker 2: It's multiple witness case, which is so unusual it deserves
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Speaker 2: to be well known. Its next case was investigated in
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Speaker 2: depth by researcher Omar Fowler of the Phenomenon Research Association, Derbyshire,
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Speaker 2: and he was also a consultant for the Flying Saucer Review.
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Speaker 2: The witnesses are a married couple, Derek and Dora Smith.
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Speaker 2: That's a pseudonym for both of them. Researcher Omar Fowler
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Speaker 2: knows them personally and he interviewed them four times about
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Speaker 2: their amazing encounter. Their encounter began in nineteen sixty three
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Speaker 2: after they moved with their three children from England to Australia,
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Speaker 2: eventually settling in windang In in New South Wales, Australia.
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Speaker 1: The family were fans.
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Speaker 2: Of old English comedy shows aired on the radio, and
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Speaker 2: as they were listening to their favorite show one evening,
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Speaker 2: they began to notice a quote static. The static interfered
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Speaker 2: with their radio transmission, sometimes blanking out their show completely.
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Speaker 2: The strange thing was the static seemed to occur the
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Speaker 2: same exact time each week, so they became curious about
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Speaker 2: what might be causing this static, and they decided to
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Speaker 2: go outside in the evening at the time the radio
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Speaker 2: was staticking up, and to their surprise, they saw strange
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Speaker 2: starlk objects moving across the sky.
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Speaker 1: And as these.
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Speaker 2: Objects moved closer, both Derek and Dora used binoculars and
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Speaker 2: were able to discern a sort of dart.
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Speaker 1: Like shape to these objects. These objects would occasionally.
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Speaker 2: Flash blue or pink, and both became convinced that the
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Speaker 2: objects were genuine UFOs. Both were very interested in psychic phenomena,
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Speaker 2: and having prior used a Wiji board to contact spirits,
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Speaker 2: Dora had the idea that next time the objects appeared,
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Speaker 2: they should try to contact the UFO occupants using telepathy
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Speaker 2: and a homemade Wigi board, so Derek agreed. At the
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Speaker 2: appointed time when they expected static on the radio and
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Speaker 2: the appearance of the objects, they were ready. Sure enough,
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Speaker 2: the static started as expected, and the couple, using a
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Speaker 2: wineglass as a pointer and a piece of paper for
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Speaker 2: the Wiji board, placed their.
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Speaker 1: Hands on the wineglass.
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Speaker 2: Immediately, the wineglass seemed to move of its own accord
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Speaker 2: and spelled out the word Z z I. So they
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Speaker 2: both asked who is z? The response was immediate and
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Speaker 2: the board spelled out we are less sky people. Both
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Speaker 2: Derek and Dora were amazed, Derek in particular as he
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Speaker 2: had recently been st the Australian Aborigine legends of the
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Speaker 2: sky beings.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Interestingly, in Chinese, the word z can mean child or seed,
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Speaker 2: or graceful and beautiful, and is actually also used as
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Speaker 2: an honorific for ancient philosophers. Don't know if there's a
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Speaker 2: connection there. In English, the word Z has also been
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Speaker 2: used as a gender neutral pronoun. I just say this
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Speaker 2: is a quick aside at any rate. Derek and Dora
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Speaker 2: asked a few more questions and the session ended. But
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Speaker 2: following this they began regular communications with the alleged sky
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Speaker 2: people about twice a week, and through the Ouiji board,
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Speaker 2: Derek asked the sky people why they were visiting Earth.
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Speaker 2: They replied that they were quote guardians of our planet
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Speaker 2: and that they have been visiting the planet for thousands
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Speaker 2: of years and it actually landed here many times. Derek
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Speaker 2: asked where they lived and their reply was quote closer
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Speaker 2: than youth think. Derek and Dora asked if the sky
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Speaker 2: people had names, and they replied that they did not
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Speaker 2: have names like Earth people do, which they thought was
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Speaker 2: very strange, but that they actually used quote titles and
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Speaker 2: these titles changed according to their tasks. Now, after several
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Speaker 2: communications like this, Derek and Dora asked if they could
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Speaker 2: have a face to face meeting with the sky people,
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Speaker 2: and the Etes declined and said, quote no, you would
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Speaker 2: be frightened of us, And Derek thought, why would we
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Speaker 2: be afraid, and as if reading his mind, the Etes
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Speaker 2: replied again through the Ouiji board, because we are bigger
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Speaker 2: than you. So while Derek and Dora had initially felt
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Speaker 2: some fear during the beginnings of the communications, they were
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Speaker 2: no longer afraid. Derek felt confident that they were friendly,
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Speaker 2: and over the next few weeks he repeatedly asked for
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Speaker 2: a meeting. After several requests, the sky people well finally
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Speaker 2: agreed and instructed the couple that at the next scheduled flyover,
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Speaker 2: the couple should go to a particular location on the
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Speaker 2: shoreline of Lake Ilwara. This is very close to their
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Speaker 2: house and go to a small clearing in the woods
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Speaker 2: at the edge of the lake, and the ets would
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Speaker 2: make an appearance. So this was just a few days away,
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Speaker 2: and as the appointed meeting time approached, both Derek and
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Speaker 2: Dora were excited and also slightly apprehensive. Dora in particular
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Speaker 2: wondered if they were perhaps opening themselves up to being
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Speaker 2: taken by the Ets. But the appointed time arrived, the
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Speaker 2: children were safely tucked into bed, and Derek and Dora
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Speaker 2: set off to the lake just a short distance away.
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Speaker 2: Now arriving at the spot, they were dismayed to see
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Speaker 2: a light aircraft which was flying backwards and forwards across
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Speaker 2: the lake, circling as if searching for something. So they wondered,
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Speaker 2: naturally if word of their et rendezvous had somehow leaked
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Speaker 2: out and the plane had scared the sky people away.
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Speaker 2: The plane eventually left, the couple remained at the lake
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Speaker 2: for some time, but the so called sky people never
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Speaker 2: showed up, and they returned home. Back in their home,
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Speaker 2: they immediately tried again to contact the sky people through
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Speaker 2: the Ouiji board, but there was no response, so they
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Speaker 2: waited until the next flyover was due and again reached
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Speaker 2: out via the board and asked, where were you? The
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Speaker 2: sky people replied, quote, not come spotter plane, go now
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Speaker 2: to agreed place. So surprised, Derek and Dora quickly prepared
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Speaker 2: and set off to the predetermined location. They quickly reached
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Speaker 2: the spot, and almost immediately Dora grabbed Derek's arm and pointed,
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Speaker 2: if you told him quote, he's over there by the tree.
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Speaker 2: There was a very large tree on the edge of
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Speaker 2: the clearing that was clearly visible, and Dora, who had
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Speaker 2: better eyesight than Derek, could clearly see a tall, shadowy figure.
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Speaker 2: Erek was also able to see it and per them.
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Speaker 2: This figure appeared to be tall and slim and wearing
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Speaker 2: a one piece black jumpsuit. Both Dora and Derek felt
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Speaker 2: a sense of paralysis immobility, which they thought was caused
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Speaker 2: either by their own fear or perhaps an outside force.
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Speaker 2: They really weren't sure which After just a few moments
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Speaker 2: The figure seemed to put its hands towards its midsection,
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Speaker 2: as if touching its belt, and it promptly disappeared. Dora
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Speaker 2: shouted out, he's gone. The couple was now able to
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Speaker 2: move freely. They briefly discussed what they had seen and
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Speaker 2: returned home. The next day, they returned to the spot
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Speaker 2: and walked up to this tree where they had seen
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Speaker 2: the strange figure. Dora pointed to a projection on the
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Speaker 2: tree trunk and explained that the being's head had reached
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Speaker 2: that height, and both were amazed to see that this
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Speaker 2: would have made the figure about eight feet tall, which
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Speaker 2: certainly aligned with what this being had told them that
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Speaker 2: they were very, very large, and that was pretty much
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Speaker 2: the end of their communications with the so called sky people,
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Speaker 2: But there was one final appearance. Was one evening just
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Speaker 2: a short time after this meeting that a horrendous storm
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Speaker 2: struck the area. The storm actually knocked out the electricity
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Speaker 2: to their home, and it was powerful enough to rip
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Speaker 2: leaves and branches from the surrounding trees. Derek wanted to
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Speaker 2: go outside and see if he could check the breakers
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Speaker 2: and fix the power loss, but the storm was too intense.
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Speaker 2: He did look out the window and as the lightning flashed,
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Speaker 2: he was amazed to see what he believed was the
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Speaker 2: same figure, just a dark silhouette standing by the window.
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Speaker 2: Now he thought he may have been mistaken, but immediately
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Speaker 2: after seeing this, mysteriously, the electricity to the house was restored.
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Speaker 2: So the next morning, after the storm had passed, Derek
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Speaker 2: went outside to the corner of the house to check
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Speaker 2: on the election trip switch that was there, and he
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Speaker 2: saw a dark, sooty area where the power surge had
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Speaker 2: taken place. Not only had the trip switch been reconnected,
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Speaker 2: but as investigator Omar Fowler writes, quote, there was a
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Speaker 2: sooty outline that of a hand, a very large hand.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't long after this that the couple ended up
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Speaker 2: moving back to England. This was surprising because they had
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Speaker 2: intended to make Australia their permanent home. They had previously
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Speaker 2: used the Wuiji board before their encounters, and it had
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Speaker 2: told him that they would be moving back to England
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Speaker 2: at some point. They hadn't believed it, but of course
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Speaker 2: the Wigi board turned out to be correct. How amazing
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Speaker 2: is that what starts out with the sighting and Zeth
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Speaker 2: is a full blown face to face encounter with a
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Speaker 2: very unusual humanoid. Technically, I think this would qualify as
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Speaker 2: a close encounter of the fifth kind, given that the
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Speaker 2: witnesses reached out to the ets telepathically and bizarrely through.
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Speaker 1: A Wiji board.
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Speaker 2: I know how unusual that sounds, but it's not unique.
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Speaker 2: In fact, I did a whole episode on people who
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Speaker 2: encountered UFOs and ets using a Wigi board. I personally
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Speaker 2: wouldn't recommend it for obvious reasons, but yeah, these cases
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Speaker 2: do turn up. And here's another one. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: move on to the next case. This one's a bit
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Speaker 2: concerning in some ways. I call this one the Aliens
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Speaker 2: in the Meadow. This is a multiple witness case which
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Speaker 2: occurred one evening in January of nineteen sixty six in
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Speaker 2: Shipston on Store, England. It's a really unusual case for sure,
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Speaker 2: as we shall soon see.
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Speaker 1: This case first.
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Speaker 2: Appeared in the Northern UFO News issue number one zero eight,
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Speaker 2: in an article titled quote a Meeting with Aliens. This
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Speaker 2: was written by researcher Jeff Byrd, who investigated and interviewed
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Speaker 2: the witness. The witness to this case is anonymous and
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Speaker 2: is known only by his initials D W. He was
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Speaker 2: formerly a member of the English Police Force, but at
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Speaker 2: the time of his encounter he was working as a
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Speaker 2: cabaret musician.
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Speaker 1: He was forty eight years old.
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Speaker 2: Was just after one a m one evening in January
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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six. The exactitate is not given, but d
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Speaker 2: W was driving to his home at Reading after a
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Speaker 2: show near Walsall. He was on the A thirty four
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Speaker 2: road not far from Shipston On Stores on a quiet roadway.
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Speaker 2: Along with him was a child by the name of Philip.
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Speaker 2: This is an eleven year old boy who was a
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Speaker 2: member of d W's extended family. So d W parked
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Speaker 2: the car along the road during this journey to enjoy
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Speaker 2: a quick snack, and this is when suddenly eleven year
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Speaker 2: old Philip noticed a brilliant light in the meadow off
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Speaker 2: to the side of the road. Now d W had
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Speaker 2: traveled this route enough times to know that there was
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Speaker 2: no structure there, so he suggested that Philip go investigate.
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Speaker 2: Philip was too frightened to leave the car, so d
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Speaker 2: W stepped out and looked over the hedge bordering the road,
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Speaker 2: and he could now see that the light was coming
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Speaker 2: from a strange object which appeared to be sitting on
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Speaker 2: the ground in the meadow or hovering just above it.
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Speaker 2: This object appeared to be just over three hundred feet
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Speaker 2: away from the witnesses, on a slight down slope leading
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Speaker 2: away from the road. Now, this object was unusual. It
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Speaker 2: was bullet shaped, vertically oriented, with the flat end on
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Speaker 2: the ground and the point facing upwards, was metallic silver
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Speaker 2: and had a vertical band or marking in the center.
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Speaker 2: There was a bright blue light on the top which
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Speaker 2: appeared to be revolving slowly, sending a blue beam of
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Speaker 2: light around the field on to the ground, And as
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Speaker 2: DW watched the blue beam rotating, it suddenly illuminated two
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Speaker 2: figures who were standing in the meadow next to the craft.
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Speaker 2: The humanoids were unusual. They were very tall, dressed in
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Speaker 2: full body jumpsuits which seemed to reflect or glow with light.
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Speaker 2: Both figures were staring at the ground next to the craft.
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Speaker 2: So d W watched this for just a few moments.
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Speaker 2: With a growing curiosity about these strange beings and the craft,
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Speaker 2: he decided to move beyond the hedge and he began
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Speaker 2: to walk down the slope towards the craft. Now unknown
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Speaker 2: to him, eleven year old Philip watched d W move
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Speaker 2: away from the road, and apparently concerned or curious about
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Speaker 2: where he was going, Philip exited the car and peered
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Speaker 2: over the hedge, and seeing the strange craft and beings
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Speaker 2: and his only companion heading straight for them. Philip screamed immediately,
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Speaker 2: as if in response, the blue beam of light emanating
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Speaker 2: from the top of the craft swung around and struck
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Speaker 2: both the witnesses and their car. Philip became immediately hysterical,
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Speaker 2: and DW, now in a state of panic, turned around
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Speaker 2: and fled back to the vehicle, pushing Philip inside and
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Speaker 2: tried to drive away. All this time Philip clung fearfully
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Speaker 2: to DW, making it very difficult for him to manage
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Speaker 2: the vehicle, but he released the handbrake, which allowed the
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Speaker 2: car to roll of its own accord down the hill
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Speaker 2: on the road until DW was able to start the engine,
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Speaker 2: and he drove away in a blind panic, Finally reaching
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Speaker 2: the city of Oxford around two forty five a m.
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Speaker 2: They both felt great relief to be back around people.
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Speaker 2: They drove on to Reading and immediately called a doctor
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Speaker 2: to check on Philip, who was still in a state
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Speaker 2: of shock. The doctor prescribed a sedative. Now, Philip was
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Speaker 2: still afraid and he begged DW not to travel that
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Speaker 2: route again the next day as was planned, but DW
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Speaker 2: reassured him that it would be daylight and he would
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Speaker 2: be fine, So DW took the same route. He returned
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Speaker 2: to the location and inspected the ground where he had
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Speaker 2: seen the craft, and there he found a large black
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Speaker 2: circle of scorched grass. He also saw a strange silvery
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Speaker 2: powder in the circle. Now, according to investigator Jeff Bird,
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Speaker 2: he writes that d W was very emotional as he
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Speaker 2: described the encounter to him, particularly because dw's sister's boyfriend
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Speaker 2: and eleven year old Philip were both killed in a
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Speaker 2: tragic auto accident.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: D W also claimed that following the encounter, he was
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Speaker 2: diagnosed with a brain tumor, which he links somehow to
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Speaker 2: the encounter, particularly being struck by this beam of light.
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Speaker 2: The tumor was successfully removed, but it did leave DW
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Speaker 2: with some brain damage and emotional problems, which made it
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Speaker 2: impossible for him to continue his work as a cabaret musician. Now,
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Speaker 2: while this case reads solely on the testimony of d W, you,
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Speaker 2: investigators to the case said that they found the witness
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Speaker 2: quote likable and genuinely sincere. They also noted that DW,
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Speaker 2: like many contactees, reported quote several other psychic phenomena. It's
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Speaker 2: very sad that there was such a tragic ending to
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Speaker 2: this case, with the one of the witnesses dying in
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Speaker 2: an auto accident. Very sad and quite unfortunate that the
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Speaker 2: investigators were not able to get his testimony as well.
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Speaker 2: But an important case given that there were what appeared
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Speaker 2: to be serious medical effects, though that's not proven. The
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Speaker 2: witness certainly thinks so, but it's very hard to say
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Speaker 2: for sure. It's a shame that the landing traces that
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Speaker 2: the witness describes weren't studied. This turns out over and
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Speaker 2: over again. Witnesses described incredible landing traces, but they are
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Speaker 2: not photographed or studied by a professional investigator, which to
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Speaker 2: me is a real lost opportunity because people often say, oh,
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Speaker 2: there's no evidence, Well yeah there is. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of evidence. So an important case. Now let's move to
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Speaker 2: the next one, which is I think by far, my
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Speaker 2: favorite case. It is so unusual. This witness is so credible.
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Speaker 2: He reported his encounter immediately after it happened, which is
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Speaker 2: really important because we know a person's memory can fade
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Speaker 2: over time. But I call this one. I had the
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Speaker 2: most unbelievable thing happen tonight. This occurred on the evening
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Speaker 2: of September fourteenth, nineteen seventy eight, in Belden, Nebraska. And
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Speaker 2: I've got quite a bit to say about this case,
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Speaker 2: but let's just get to it first. This case first
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Speaker 2: appeared in the December nineteen seventy eight issue of the
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Speaker 2: April Bulletin in an article by April Field investigator Dave
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Speaker 2: Kenny titled c E three Encounter in Nebraska. Was also
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Speaker 2: reported to the National UFO Reporting Center Newfork, then headed
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Speaker 2: by Robert Gribble, And I'll be playing excerpts of this
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Speaker 2: conversation with Robert Gribble throughout this case. But in Dave
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Speaker 2: Kenny's article, the witness is anonymous. As Dave Kenny says,
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Speaker 2: the witness is a prominent, highly respected businessman whose name
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Speaker 2: is familiar to nearly everyone in the Los Angeles area.
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Speaker 2: But thanks to the Newfork recording, again which I will
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Speaker 2: play excerpts of here, we now know that the man's
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Speaker 2: name is Robert Stuart Estes. He was then the president
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Speaker 2: of the motorcar Dealers of Southern California and the founding
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Speaker 2: father of the United States Auto Club. Also a mechanical engineer,
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Speaker 2: a pilot, and a veteran of World War Two, and
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Speaker 2: he did say it's okay to use his name. It
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Speaker 2: was about nine pm on September fourteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
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Speaker 2: that Robert, then aged sixty five, was driving a rental
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Speaker 2: car west on Interstate twenty in Nebraska. He had just
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Speaker 2: passed through the small town of Belden and was heading
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Speaker 2: towards Randolph when he saw an extremely bright object descending
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Speaker 2: from the sky. He thought at first it might be
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Speaker 2: a meteor, but then he thought perhaps a helicopter with floodlights.
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Speaker 2: But he quickly realized that neither of these explanations were correct.
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Speaker 2: And here Robert describes the beginning of his encounter and
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Speaker 2: what the object looked like. This is Robert explaining his
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Speaker 2: encounter in his own words, President.
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Speaker 3: Of the Motor Car Dealers in Southern California. I was
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Speaker 3: here back in Washington, DC on a mission, and I
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Speaker 3: came down to the farm land that I had something
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Speaker 3: to do with my family. For many years, I had
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Speaker 3: the most unbelievable thing happened tonight and I'm over and
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Speaker 3: I was driving between two city Isle and Belgium when
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Speaker 3: the machine came out and sat down next to me.
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Speaker 3: And I can describe it to you to draw your picture.
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Speaker 3: And I'm a mechanical engineer. It was a lot of authority,
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Speaker 3: believe me. And this is unbelievable right along Sunday And
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Speaker 3: I'm a mechanical engineer in a no machinery. And uh
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Speaker 3: it was a caterpillar type thing with a belt driver.
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't there very long, but long enough for
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Speaker 3: me to get a good look at it.
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Speaker 1: It's at least.
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Speaker 3: Twenty five people long. There were no air foils, no
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Speaker 3: nothing that would uh connected with the air travel. You know,
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Speaker 3: it looked like a big World War a tractor of
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Speaker 3: a tank if you would like it. It was, you know,
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Speaker 3: sort of delt building and wheels and and uh, it
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Speaker 3: was a big machine. It was at least twenty five
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Speaker 3: feet long. And yet to there's no indication of any
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Speaker 3: aerofoil activity right next to me. But it almost pushed
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Speaker 3: me off the road.
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Speaker 2: So Robert then stopped his car about sixty feet from
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Speaker 2: the object. But as he says, the object practically drove
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Speaker 2: him off the road. He started to open the door
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Speaker 2: and get out for a closer look, but he had
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Speaker 2: no sooner opened the door to his car than one
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Speaker 2: foot on the ground when something incredible happened again. Here
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Speaker 2: Robert describes in his own words what happened.
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Speaker 1: Next.
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Speaker 3: Man got out of this god damping and even spoke
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Speaker 3: to me. He just said, Bob, what he thinks of it?
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Speaker 3: Spoke to me that knew me just that one thing
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Speaker 3: just jumped out of the thing and looked mean, said
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Speaker 3: Bob what he think of it? Nothing was it? And
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Speaker 3: then it's then it took off. You may think I'm
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Speaker 3: crazy or something that did happen? Well, it was almost
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Speaker 3: founded was a sort of a wish.
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Speaker 2: How strange is that? In the interview with investigator Dave Kenny,
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Speaker 2: Robert did provide more detail and said that the man
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Speaker 2: he encountered looked entirely human. He had dark hair, was
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Speaker 2: of normal size and height. He wore white duck pants
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Speaker 2: and a white shirt. After looking at Bob and saying, well, Bob,
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Speaker 2: what do you think of this? The man immediately returned
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Speaker 2: into the object. The door closed, the object made a
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Speaker 2: high pitched whining sound, almost soundless. Sort of a whoshing
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Speaker 2: sound and took off. Per Robert, the light was so
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Speaker 2: intense that he could not look at it directly and
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Speaker 2: had to shield his eyes as this object ascended. Now,
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Speaker 2: Robert does not really remember getting back into the car.
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Speaker 2: This is what he told the APERO researcher. The next
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Speaker 2: thing he recalls, he was back in the car driving
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Speaker 2: down the road as this strange object followed him. And
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Speaker 2: again I'd like to play a brief portion of the
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Speaker 2: audio tape where Robert describes his encounter.
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Speaker 3: Well, the only problem that I had was in my
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Speaker 3: own direction in trying to get to where I was going. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I would well whether I would confuse or and I thought, well,
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Speaker 3: and they were right. That followed me for a period
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Speaker 3: of time. That frightened me. I thought, oh God, you're
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Speaker 3: gonna make it.
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Speaker 2: So Robert tried to outrun the UFO, but stayed right
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Speaker 2: behind him, and it was then that he realized that
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Speaker 2: he was on an entirely different road. He knew this
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Speaker 2: area very well, as his family had property in the
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Speaker 2: area since the turn of the century. To his amazement,
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Speaker 2: he found that he was actually heading south on Route
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Speaker 2: fifty seven, just south of Hartington, This was some twelve
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Speaker 2: or fifteen miles north of where he had seen the
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Speaker 2: UFO only moments earlier. So he raced south at very
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Speaker 2: high speeds, up to ninety ninety five miles per hour.
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Speaker 1: He said.
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Speaker 2: He soon reached in State twenty and again headed west,
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Speaker 2: reaching the initial spot where he had first seen the UFO.
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Speaker 2: Reaching this spot, the object immediately zoomed off. Now, Robert
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Speaker 2: also describes a very important detail what researchers now called
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Speaker 2: the OS factor. This involves a strange sense of isolation,
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Speaker 2: an eerie silence, a lack of traffic, and Robert the
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Speaker 2: witness describes this perfectly. And again, I'll just play a
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Speaker 2: brief section of audio tape where he talks about this.
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Speaker 3: No, No, the strange thing was that all the other
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Speaker 3: traffic could stop, and even after that there was a
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Speaker 3: minority of It was almost like everything had been cut off. Well,
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Speaker 3: I really couldn't say that because I was just you know,
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Speaker 3: driving and kind of late, but I would say that
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Speaker 3: there was a difference.
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Speaker 2: So after the encounter, Robert reached his destination around at
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Speaker 2: eleven PM. And again, while he does not believe he
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Speaker 2: experienced any missing time, two hours seems a bit late,
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Speaker 2: considering that his recall of the actual sighting is really
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Speaker 2: quite brief. Arriving at his hotel room, he immediately called
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Speaker 2: the Sioux City Police Department, who, after hearing his story,
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Speaker 2: suggested that he call Newfork, the National UFO Reporting Center,
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Speaker 2: which he immediately did. In his call to Newfork, Robert
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Speaker 2: Estes said that he did not want to be anonymous,
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Speaker 2: that he was okay with his name being used, but
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Speaker 2: after being contacted by apro field investigator Dave Kenny, who
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Speaker 2: conducted a more thorough interview, Robert did request anonymity. Investigator
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Speaker 2: Dave Kenny was very impressed by the account and by
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Speaker 2: the witness himself. As the investigator says, the incident is
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Speaker 2: an example of a truly incredible event reported by a
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Speaker 2: totally credible witness. The witness had previously not had any
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Speaker 2: particular in Tristan UFOs, and in view of his position
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Speaker 2: and reputation in the business community, he obviously has much
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Speaker 2: to lose and nothing to gain by revealing his experience.
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Speaker 2: His sincerity and firm conviction of the reality of the
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Speaker 2: incident are evidenced by the considerable time and effort he
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Speaker 2: spent in getting his report to the proper people, and
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Speaker 2: by the detailed notes of the event that he made
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Speaker 2: while they were still fresh in his memory. Now one
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Speaker 2: possible connection is that Dave Esty's reports that he had
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Speaker 2: just had a meeting in Washington, d C. Earlier that day,
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Speaker 2: and again he wonders if there might be a connection
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Speaker 2: between that and his encounter.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm not coming into but I feel
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Speaker 3: that it should be reported because goddamn you, I haven't
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Speaker 3: a lot of people working for me. I've been involved
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Speaker 3: in in technical things all of my life. But god,
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Speaker 3: I could not believe it. But but this is amazing
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Speaker 3: to me what happened to me, And uh just wondering if,
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Speaker 3: uh what kind of reports or this has happened before.
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Speaker 3: So I'm not a knot to I. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: still in a state of shock if the truth, and
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Speaker 3: and I'm not a knot or anything, but you know,
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Speaker 3: I felt that this should be reported from an engine man.
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Speaker 3: But uh, God, I have some shocked I could Uh,
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Speaker 3: I could almost draw a picture of what it was done.
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Speaker 3: I have felt that, uh, there's more of it than
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Speaker 3: we know. But I'm certain.
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Speaker 1: I'd try to publicize this, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, Well, I would like to know further believe me. Uh,
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Speaker 3: this was such an experience that it's so shocking and
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Speaker 3: if it happened to me, or why did have me
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Speaker 3: or what the company that I had to do? Why then?
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Speaker 3: Or you know, kind I can't believe it and I'm
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Speaker 3: not a dream. Is the most amazing thing that somebody
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Speaker 3: came out and spoke to me and said, Bob, what
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Speaker 3: he think you know, if I were drunk or something
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Speaker 3: or you know, but but it too real. Well, I
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Speaker 3: was so shocked and so quickly.
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Speaker 2: First I want to say how very cool it was
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Speaker 2: to hear directly this recorded testimony from the witness himself
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Speaker 2: that I think is really important because this way we
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Speaker 2: know that this gentleman is describing exactly what happened to him. Also,
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Speaker 2: he reported it so soon after his encounter. I mean
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Speaker 2: literally less than an hour after it occurred. He was
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Speaker 2: talking to researchers. And what an amazing witness, not only famous,
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Speaker 2: but very well educated, a pilot, a veteran, someone who's
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Speaker 2: very into machines and cars. And I think that provides
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Speaker 2: a clue as to what this encounter might be all about,
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Speaker 2: because remember.
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Speaker 1: He visited Washington, d C.
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Speaker 2: Was probed apparently talking to some very important people who
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Speaker 2: were clearly aware of who he was.
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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if.
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Speaker 2: This EP he saw, I'll call it EP, but I'm
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Speaker 2: thinking might have been a regular human in a reverse
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Speaker 2: engineered craft. And I say that because of the description
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Speaker 2: of the craft that he provides. The description of this
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Speaker 2: human that he saw, because he said it was essentially
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Speaker 2: a human man who spoke English to him and had
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Speaker 2: such a weird brief message, makes me wonder if this
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Speaker 2: man that the witness talked to knew that the witness
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Speaker 2: was very interested in cars and automobiles and vehicles, and
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Speaker 2: that was the purpose of the encounter to sort of
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Speaker 2: show off and say, oh, interested in vehicles, Well, look
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Speaker 2: at this one, because that's essentially what happened. I do
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Speaker 2: think that this, yeah, could very well be a encounter
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Speaker 2: that would be with a regular human involving a reverse
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Speaker 2: engineered craft.
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Speaker 1: However, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 2: Because what about the fact that appears, despite what the
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Speaker 2: witness says, that he did have missing time, given that
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Speaker 2: there was no.
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Speaker 1: Traffic on the road.
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Speaker 2: Suspiciously, he's describing exactly what we call the os effect.
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Speaker 2: Suddenly he finds himself in a different position on the road,
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Speaker 2: not knowing how he got there. And while he says
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Speaker 2: he didn't have missing time, the encounter occurred at nine pm.
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Speaker 2: It was very brief, and he gets to his destination
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Speaker 2: at eleven pm. That's two hours, so I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I didn't have the opportunity to talk to this gentleman.
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Speaker 2: He's now deceased. But this case raises all kinds of
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Speaker 2: questions and sure is unusual. All right, Now, let's move
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Speaker 2: to the next case again, a not very well known case.
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Speaker 2: I call this one it hurt my eyes to look
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Speaker 2: at it. This is a single witness case, but it
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Speaker 2: does have some interesting physical evidence to it. This one
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Speaker 2: occurred on the evening of August eighth, nineteen eighty five,
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Speaker 2: in Ferenze, Italy. This case comes from Italian researchers Fabrizio
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Speaker 2: Villa and Caligero Orlando of the Italian National Ethological Center.
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Speaker 2: The sole witness is Signora Dominica Cantone, the wife of
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Speaker 2: a police inspector in the Italian Carabinieri, which serves as
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Speaker 2: both the military and police force. She lived with her
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Speaker 2: husband on the sixth floor of an apartment building in Farenze, Italy.
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Speaker 2: Now August eighth nineteen eighty five. The night of the
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Speaker 2: encounter was a very warm night, and Dominica found herself
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Speaker 2: unable to sleep because of the heat, and it was
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Speaker 2: around three point thirty am that she went out onto
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Speaker 2: the balcony of her apartment to get some relief from
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Speaker 2: the heat, and suddenly, off in the distance, she saw
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Speaker 2: a strange craft, which quickly began to approach. It moved
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Speaker 2: slowly and silently, coming closer and closer until it was
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Speaker 2: only just a few meters away from.
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Speaker 1: Her at eye level.
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Speaker 2: It then stopped hovering just above the small soccer field
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Speaker 2: next to the building, and it was so close that
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Speaker 2: the winness had an excellent view of this craft and
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Speaker 2: more importantly, what or who was inside it. For the witness,
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Speaker 2: the strange craft was sort of egg shaped, surrounded by
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Speaker 2: a silver hue. It had a glass cupola on top
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Speaker 2: of the craft, and inside it she could see two men.
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Speaker 2: They were visible only from the head up. She describes
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Speaker 2: them only as wearing caps which had two large earl
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Speaker 2: like protrusions on either side of the head. She was
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Speaker 2: actually unsure if these protrusions were actually ears or a
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Speaker 2: part of the calf themselves, but she could see that
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Speaker 2: these two men appeared to be holding a conversation. No
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Speaker 2: sooner had she seen these two figures inside this craft.
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Speaker 2: When they stopped talking and turned to gaze fixedly directly
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Speaker 2: at her.
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Speaker 1: Without warning, three.
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Speaker 2: Landing legs or arms as she called them, extended from
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Speaker 2: the body of the craft. It appeared to her that
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Speaker 2: the craft was getting ready to land, and this scared
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Speaker 2: her greatly as she thought that the two beings were
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Speaker 2: planning to abduct her. So she fled in a panic
45:43
Speaker 2: off the balcony into the bedroom of her apartment and
45:46
Speaker 2: tried to wake up her husband and tell him about
45:48
Speaker 2: the UFO. Strangely, he would not wake up. Failing to
45:52
Speaker 2: wake him up, she ran back to the balcony. Only
45:56
Speaker 2: a few moments had passed, but she could now see
45:59
Speaker 2: that the landing legs were we were retracting back into
46:01
Speaker 2: the craft. These two little figures were still visible and
46:05
Speaker 2: were still staring at her. As the legs finished retracting
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Speaker 2: into the craft, it suddenly darted away at what she
46:12
Speaker 2: called lightning speed. Was still perfectly silent, but it now
46:16
Speaker 2: emitted an intensely bright light which was so brilliant that,
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Speaker 2: as Domenica described quote, it hurt my eyes to look
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Speaker 2: at it.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Looking at the clock, she could see that it was
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Speaker 2: now four a m. So she had viewed the craft
46:31
Speaker 2: for almost a half hour. Still terrified, she immediately went
46:35
Speaker 2: through the house, shutting all the windows and drawing all
46:38
Speaker 2: the blinds. She went directly back to bed, but was
46:41
Speaker 2: unable to fall asleep for the rest of the night.
46:44
Speaker 2: The encounter affected her so profoundly that in the days
46:48
Speaker 2: and weeks that followed the encounter, despite the summer heat,
46:51
Speaker 2: she slept with all the windows closed. In fact, she
46:55
Speaker 2: planned on getting in air conditioner with two days following
46:58
Speaker 2: this encounter that some local boys in the area found
47:02
Speaker 2: strange marks in the sports field next to the building,
47:05
Speaker 2: right where she had seen this object below it, I
47:07
Speaker 2: should say. These strange marks were described as three circular
47:11
Speaker 2: imprints with burned marks in the center and what looked
47:15
Speaker 2: like a grayish powder in the outer area. Now, as
47:18
Speaker 2: word of Dominica's sighting spread and the subsequent marks in
47:22
Speaker 2: the field were discovered, many people came to view the
47:25
Speaker 2: strange marks. Despite the fact that the apartment building was
47:29
Speaker 2: quite large, no other witnesses ever stepped forward. What a
47:34
Speaker 2: fascinating case. It's so interesting to me that this lady
47:37
Speaker 2: sees this UFO at some distance in the sky, and
47:40
Speaker 2: what does it do. It approaches her balcony and basically
47:44
Speaker 2: stops right in front of it. I mean, that has
47:47
Speaker 2: to be intentional. There's no escaping it, given if they
47:50
Speaker 2: looked directly at her and then it starts to apparently land,
47:56
Speaker 2: So there's obvious intentionality in this case.
48:00
Speaker 1: She ran off.
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Speaker 2: Apparently that was the end of the encounter, but given
48:05
Speaker 2: that there were landing traces found in the field right
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Speaker 2: next to her building, makes it sound like, yeah, that
48:12
Speaker 2: this was more than a simple sighting. This craft apparently landed.
48:18
Speaker 2: Very strange. Also that this is a pretty populated area
48:21
Speaker 2: and there were no other witnesses, though I have to
48:23
Speaker 2: say that that is not terribly unusual. UFOs can show
48:27
Speaker 2: themselves to who they want to, and other people won't
48:31
Speaker 2: necessarily see them. But I've often said this, and that
48:35
Speaker 2: is one person sighting is another person's onboard UFO encounter.
48:40
Speaker 2: So maybe they were there to take somebody else. Pure speculation,
48:44
Speaker 2: but I thought i'd bring it up because I think
48:46
Speaker 2: that's an important point. UFOs are coming for a reason.
48:51
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move to the last and final case
48:55
Speaker 2: in this collection also very very unusual. I love this
48:59
Speaker 2: case quite a bit to it. I've never heard one
49:02
Speaker 2: quite like it. I call this one Healed by the
49:06
Speaker 2: Little Men. This one occurred in September two, nineteen eighty eight,
49:11
Speaker 2: in Itakaruca, Brazil. This is an amazing case because it's
49:16
Speaker 2: not just a single event. It's actually a series of
49:19
Speaker 2: events with one major encounter.
49:22
Speaker 1: And again I've.
49:22
Speaker 2: Got more to say about it, but let's just first
49:25
Speaker 2: present the case. This case comes from prolific and respected
49:29
Speaker 2: Brazilian researcher Irene Granci. She's president of the Brazilian UFO
49:33
Speaker 2: group CISNE, which stands for the Center of Investigations on
49:40
Speaker 2: the Nature of Extraterrestrials. She's also the author of UFOs
49:44
Speaker 2: and Abductions in Brazil. It was around four a m.
49:48
Speaker 2: On July thirty first, nineteen eighty eight, that her son,
49:52
Speaker 2: Ludovico Granchi, was asleep in the bedroom of his home
49:57
Speaker 2: in the coastal town of Irikaruka, Brazil. Suddenly he was
50:02
Speaker 2: awakened by the barking of his four dogs, and after
50:05
Speaker 2: quickly looking at his watch and noting the time, he
50:07
Speaker 2: saw that his compass was spinning around wildly. He then
50:11
Speaker 2: looked out his window and saw that the area outside.
50:14
Speaker 1: Was lit up like daylight. So he rushed out.
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Speaker 2: To the living room and opened the window, and he
50:19
Speaker 2: could now see a massive craft flying slowly back and
50:23
Speaker 2: forth above his house. Now Ludovico estimated that the craft
50:27
Speaker 2: was about one hundred feet wide, pretty big, was metallic
50:31
Speaker 2: leaden gray in color, and shaped quote something like a
50:35
Speaker 2: wasp's nest, who was six hundred to seven hundred feet
50:38
Speaker 2: above the ground. It had what appeared to be a
50:41
Speaker 2: large circular opening in the bottom which was exuding a
50:45
Speaker 2: sort of white vapor which surrounded the craft. He the witness,
50:49
Speaker 2: This vapor glowed with orange and blue lights, which apparently
50:53
Speaker 2: were coming from the craft itself. But the strangest part
50:56
Speaker 2: of the sighting was yet to come. As the witness
50:59
Speaker 2: says in his own works, I continued to watch it,
51:02
Speaker 2: and as it passed over the house for the third time,
51:06
Speaker 2: I saw it stop, and suddenly it emitted a brightly
51:10
Speaker 2: lit white panel with writing in black letters on it.
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Speaker 1: The borders of the panel were also black.
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Speaker 2: On impulse, I ran to fetch a padent pen and
51:19
Speaker 2: I started to copy down what I saw. This phase
51:23
Speaker 2: must have lasted for about ten minutes, during which time
51:26
Speaker 2: I did my best to copy faithfully what I was seeing, and,
51:30
Speaker 2: as if guided by an invisible hand, to take down
51:33
Speaker 2: the message. I cannot tell whether my copy was a
51:36
Speaker 2: faithful one. I was in a panic. It was a
51:39
Speaker 2: strange sensation, as.
51:40
Speaker 1: If the world were about to end.
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Speaker 2: So no sooner had he finished copying down these strange symbols,
51:47
Speaker 2: when the light on the panel went out and the
51:49
Speaker 2: UFO departed, making a very strange sound, which Ludovico describes
51:53
Speaker 2: as quote like that of a rusty handle being turned
51:57
Speaker 2: around and around.
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Speaker 1: And that was it. Now.
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Speaker 2: Ludovico does add that as a child in the early
52:04
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, when he was about ten years old, he recalls.
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Speaker 1: Meeting quote little people.
52:10
Speaker 2: He doesn't say anything more than that, but it also
52:13
Speaker 2: adds that one day he and his little brother and
52:16
Speaker 2: sister in the backyard of their home when a UFO
52:19
Speaker 2: came down, hovering just above them, actually covering the yard
52:23
Speaker 2: quote like a roof. So they began calling out to
52:27
Speaker 2: their mother, Irene, saying, Mommy, come out quickly, come and
52:31
Speaker 2: see the flying saucer. Of course, she did run out
52:34
Speaker 2: but by the time she arrived, the only evidence of
52:37
Speaker 2: the craft was a small speck in the sky moving away.
52:40
Speaker 2: But according to Ludovico and his brother and sister, while
52:44
Speaker 2: this ship was hovering overhead, they all felt an intense
52:48
Speaker 2: heat coming from the craft. But really it was an
52:51
Speaker 2: experience that occurred on September second, nineteen eighty eight, just
52:56
Speaker 2: over one month following his encounter on July thirty first,
52:59
Speaker 2: that changed Ludovico's life. On that night, he noticed unusual
53:05
Speaker 2: lights in the thick wooded forest behind his house. He
53:08
Speaker 2: described in this quote strange little lights like those given
53:11
Speaker 2: off by glow arms, only larger. So seeing them, he
53:15
Speaker 2: felt almost impelled to go outside and investigate. And as
53:19
Speaker 2: he did so, these little lights gathered together, and at
53:23
Speaker 2: the same time he heard this weird insect like chirping sound,
53:28
Speaker 2: sort of like crickets or grasshoppers, is how he described it. Then,
53:32
Speaker 2: without warning, he found himself surrounded by five quote little men.
53:37
Speaker 2: He said that they had the appearance much like small children.
53:41
Speaker 2: They were about three feet nine inches tall, with white skin,
53:45
Speaker 2: thin arms, dark green eyes, and short ash blonde hair.
53:50
Speaker 2: They were wearing light beige uniforms with what looked to
53:54
Speaker 2: him like thick armor like vests and boots, which he
53:58
Speaker 2: described as looking almost like fiber glass.
54:00
Speaker 1: So these little men.
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Speaker 2: Walked around him with normal movements, he said, each was
54:05
Speaker 2: carrying a small wand like device with a blinking and
54:08
Speaker 2: pulsating white light on the tip. So Ludovico realized that
54:12
Speaker 2: it was these lights which first caught his attention. And
54:15
Speaker 2: although these lights were bright enough to light up the
54:18
Speaker 2: environment around him, almost like daylight, the lights did not
54:21
Speaker 2: hurt his eyes. Now, at this point, one of the
54:24
Speaker 2: little men gently grasped Ludovico's arm and led him to
54:29
Speaker 2: a nearby cave. Inside the cave, which appeared to be
54:32
Speaker 2: brightly lit, Ludovico was placed on a rectangular white stone
54:37
Speaker 2: like a bed in the center of this cave. The
54:40
Speaker 2: little men then proceeded to use their wands to examine
54:43
Speaker 2: his body. Now, a few days earlier, prior to this,
54:47
Speaker 2: Ludovico had fallen and gashed his leg on a rusty
54:51
Speaker 2: nail beside a railway line, and this wound was deep
54:54
Speaker 2: and festering. The little man seemed to pay special attention
54:58
Speaker 2: to this wound.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: During this time, the little men talked among themselves in
55:03
Speaker 2: a weird, unintelligible language, which sounded to Ludovico like quote
55:09
Speaker 2: chirping like crickets. And hearing this, Ludovico was struck with
55:13
Speaker 2: the idea to ask the little men if they knew
55:16
Speaker 2: his name, and instantly one of the little men spoke
55:20
Speaker 2: to him with a perfect Portuguese accent, saying Ludovico's name
55:24
Speaker 2: with a shrill voice like that of a small child.
55:28
Speaker 2: Ludovico said the strange beings were very kind and friendly,
55:32
Speaker 2: and after this brief exam that actually gave him a
55:34
Speaker 2: piece of fruit to eat. Ludovico said it was smooth
55:38
Speaker 2: and red on the outside and lighter colored on the inside,
55:43
Speaker 2: and it smelled and tasted good.
55:44
Speaker 1: He said it was much like.
55:45
Speaker 2: A plum, but with an apple like texture and no
55:49
Speaker 2: visible seeds inside. This ended the encounter, and Ludovico returned
55:54
Speaker 2: to his home, only to discover that the woman on
55:57
Speaker 2: his leg had been healed. He says that for severn
56:00
Speaker 2: several days following this encounter, he felt somewhat troubled and confused.
56:05
Speaker 1: He also said that he felt as though he.
56:06
Speaker 2: Was quote floating in thin air, and his feeling remained
56:10
Speaker 2: for some time afterwards. Now, his mother, Irene Granci, interviewed
56:15
Speaker 2: him about one week after the encounter and writes quote,
56:19
Speaker 2: he was looking very pale, quite different from his healthy, normal,
56:23
Speaker 2: sun burnt self. Now, despite several attempts, no one has
56:26
Speaker 2: been able to decipher or translate the strange symbols and
56:30
Speaker 2: signs that Ludovico allegedly received from the UFO on the
56:34
Speaker 2: night of July thirty first, nineteen eighty eight. It's also
56:39
Speaker 2: strange that he describes being taken to a brightly lit cave,
56:42
Speaker 2: being laid out on a table with these beings with
56:45
Speaker 2: little wands. This sounds in some ways like, you know,
56:49
Speaker 2: the little folk, very folk, but in another way looks
56:53
Speaker 2: very much like your standard UFO onboard encounter. Hard to say,
56:58
Speaker 2: but certainly a fascinating cave. A lot of interesting details
57:02
Speaker 2: to that case. One I find really intriguing is that
57:05
Speaker 2: the witness's mother, Irene Granci, is herself a very prominent
57:10
Speaker 2: and well known and respected UFO researcher. I think a
57:15
Speaker 2: lot of researchers themselves have had encounters. I don't know
57:19
Speaker 2: that Irene ever described her own encounters. I'll have to
57:23
Speaker 2: look that up, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did,
57:26
Speaker 2: but certainly her children apparently have had a number of encounters,
57:31
Speaker 2: particularly Ludovico, so that is so interesting to me. He
57:36
Speaker 2: appears to be a contact eee. When you see a
57:39
Speaker 2: craft that close up, when you have visitations as a
57:42
Speaker 2: little kid, these are all the signs we look for
57:46
Speaker 2: in terms of somebody being a contact tee. Also fascinating
57:50
Speaker 2: is that he has shown these strange symbols. Again not unique,
57:55
Speaker 2: but certainly unique in the way he was shown these symbols.
57:58
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever heard that before. It's
58:01
Speaker 2: unfortunate that no one has been able to translate these symbols,
58:05
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Perhaps this is just a way
58:08
Speaker 2: to sort of shake the witness up, make them think
58:13
Speaker 2: out of the box, consider new paradigms and new ideas,
58:16
Speaker 2: because I think that is one of the techniques ets use.
58:20
Speaker 2: They will provide a witness with high strangeness experiences that
58:24
Speaker 2: really cause them to consider new ideas. Again, pure speculation,
58:30
Speaker 2: but certainly interesting and I think a possibility that we
58:34
Speaker 2: need to consider because there are so many cases that
58:37
Speaker 2: have such weird, high strangeness to them, so overall, an
58:42
Speaker 2: important case I think I think all of these cases
58:45
Speaker 2: are important. These are just six, and you know how
58:49
Speaker 2: many cases I've presented on this channel. We're looking at
58:53
Speaker 2: a few thousand now at least, and there's no shortage
58:56
Speaker 2: of others. I'm always looking for new and in cases.
59:01
Speaker 2: And again, I love covering cases that most people haven't
59:04
Speaker 2: heard before. I'm guessing you probably haven't heard of most
59:07
Speaker 2: of these. I don't know. You can let me know
59:11
Speaker 2: either way. I want to thank you once again for watching.
59:15
Speaker 2: I truly appreciate it. This subject is so important. I'm
59:20
Speaker 2: so gratified and excited to see that the subject is
59:23
Speaker 2: being taken more and more seriously, that we're seeing steps
59:26
Speaker 2: towards disclosure. We yet have to see officials really admitting
59:32
Speaker 2: that people are having direct contact. But sooner or later,
59:38
Speaker 2: I think they will have to. Disclosure will happen. I
59:41
Speaker 2: think it's inevitable for one simple fact. UFOs are real.
59:46
Speaker 2: And while you can hide the truth, you can lie
59:49
Speaker 2: about it, you can distort it, you can ignore it,
59:52
Speaker 2: you will never destroy it. So yeah, thank you again.
59:57
Speaker 2: Hope you enjoyed this episode. Until next time, keep asking
1:00:00
Speaker 2: those hard questions, keep looking for the truth. Most important
1:00:04
Speaker 2: of all, keep having fun and I will see you
1:00:07
Speaker 2: next time. On you opposing the paranormal, Bye for now,