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- 0:30Speaker 1: six million cases new cases of cancer will be diagnosed
- 0:35Speaker 1: in the United States this year. We're gonna talk about
- 0:39Speaker 1: battling cancer on many fronts. Bob mulroy, CEO of Merrimack
- 0:43Speaker 1: Pharmaceuticals in Cambridge, Massachusetts, as we continue our special live
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- 1:28Speaker 1: in tightening monetary policy. John Cannelly is chief economic strategist
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- 1:35Speaker 1: sees two FED increases this year. I think over time,
- 1:38Speaker 1: I think that what the Fed did in March was
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- 2:45Speaker 1: Charlie from the Bloomberg Newsroom. I'm Rami Incentio. Speaking today
- 2:49Speaker 1: during a roundtable discussion on the crisis in the Middle East,
- 2:52Speaker 1: Florida Senator Marco Rubio took a swipe at Donald Trump's
- 2:55Speaker 1: NATO policy. It's a lot easier to say, for example,
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- 4:31Speaker 1: and again recapping stocks are trading higher SMP five hundred
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- 4:49Speaker 1: Taking Stock, broadcasting live from the Boston Convention Exhibition Center
- 4:53Speaker 1: before tonight's Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce Annual Meeting. Now
- 4:59Speaker 1: for some sober ring news. The United States will spend
- 5:04Speaker 1: about a hundred and twenty five billion dollars this year
- 5:08Speaker 1: on cancer care. One point six to maybe one point
- 5:13Speaker 1: seven million new cases of cancer will be reported this year.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Cancer is a big deal for everyone. Here to help
- 5:22Speaker 1: us understand the battle against cancer is Bob mulroy. He
- 5:26Speaker 1: is the chief executive of Merrimack of Pharmaceuticals. They're based
- 5:30Speaker 1: in Cambridge, mass Sta. Mulroy, thank you very much for
- 5:33Speaker 1: joining us today. Well, it's great to be here. Tell
- 5:36Speaker 1: people who have not been paying attention to Merrimack and
- 5:40Speaker 1: your oncology and cancer work about the company and how
- 5:45Speaker 1: you're building almost a system of building blocks to fight cancer.
- 5:50Speaker 1: So Merrimack is a company that came out of m
- 5:52Speaker 1: I T in Harvard, and we use all the engineering
- 5:55Speaker 1: technologies that m I f T has developed over the
- 5:58Speaker 1: years to look at really complex as the US and
- 6:01Speaker 1: one of the things we see in cancer, especially late
- 6:03Speaker 1: States cancer, these cancers aren't driven by any one component anymore.
- 6:07Speaker 1: They're multidimensional, and so we use all of the systems
- 6:10Speaker 1: dynamics technology to come out of m I T try
- 6:13Speaker 1: and understand cancer as a multidimensional problem and then creates
- 6:16Speaker 1: solutions that address all of those dimensions. So that's merrimas core.
- 6:21Speaker 1: What we've got out of it now is fifteen different
- 6:23Speaker 1: drug programs are first is now approved and we have
- 6:26Speaker 1: that really rare thing in biotech is that we now
- 6:29Speaker 1: have two more drugs lined up in registration studies reporting
- 6:32Speaker 1: next year in the following year. So we're now at
- 6:34Speaker 1: a point of really robust productivity from the research has
- 6:38Speaker 1: created a really wonderful opportunity to address some serious cancers.
- 6:41Speaker 1: For many people have been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, particularly
- 6:45Speaker 1: it's metastasized. It's it's all, but it's you know, the
- 6:48Speaker 1: doctors will tell you very little odds of survival. Right
- 6:51Speaker 1: that is one of your big drugs right now, you've
- 6:53Speaker 1: been making progress with that, tell us about that and
- 6:57Speaker 1: and how what kind of success if you're having I
- 7:00Speaker 1: hope you have in the future. So uh an Avide
- 7:03Speaker 1: is our first drug and that was approved last year
- 7:05Speaker 1: by the U s f d A, and it's in
- 7:07Speaker 1: a registration program all around the globe now to hopefully
- 7:10Speaker 1: be approved to be used worldwide. And an Avide was
- 7:12Speaker 1: designed to treat pancreatic cancer where our systems technologies had suggested.
- 7:16Speaker 1: The big problem with pancreatic cancer and the reason why
- 7:19Speaker 1: we've had so few drugs approved and had very low,
- 7:23Speaker 1: low and slow progress treating the disease was that the
- 7:26Speaker 1: tumors have almost a wall around them and it's hard
- 7:28Speaker 1: to get drug inside that wall. So we created a
- 7:32Speaker 1: drug that actually uses some immune cells as a as
- 7:35Speaker 1: a taxi to traffick the drug in through that wall,
- 7:38Speaker 1: get inside the tumor and have an effect. And what
- 7:40Speaker 1: we saw was a significant im prease in overall survival
- 7:43Speaker 1: and patients who haven't had a new therapy UH in
- 7:46Speaker 1: over thirty years. Just the third new drug approved and
- 7:49Speaker 1: pancreatic cancer, and now we have the opportunity to make
- 7:52Speaker 1: it available to patients all across the United States and
- 7:55Speaker 1: it's it's a really exciting time for that. Let's talk
- 7:58Speaker 1: a little business for just a moment, because you've made
- 8:01Speaker 1: a transition in the company, as you alluded to, from
- 8:03Speaker 1: a biotech research company to a commercial company. Now, maybe
- 8:09Speaker 1: investors who bought in at the very beginning they wanted
- 8:12Speaker 1: a biotech research company, how do you make that transition
- 8:16Speaker 1: on the shareholder base, but also how have you changed
- 8:21Speaker 1: your view of whether that transition really was what you
- 8:25Speaker 1: wanted or what you are happy to get out of
- 8:28Speaker 1: it now. So we're we're thrilled to be commercial. Only
- 8:32Speaker 1: only three percent of all biotechs that start actually get
- 8:35Speaker 1: a drug approved. It's a very hard thing to do,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and so to be there is a great thing. But
- 8:40Speaker 1: I think what we're trying to do with a company,
- 8:42Speaker 1: and we've tried to communicate to shareholders is the point
- 8:44Speaker 1: you made at the outset is they're treating these Late
- 8:46Speaker 1: States cancers. You need a series of building blocks. You
- 8:48Speaker 1: need this whole series of components, and Onavai gives us
- 8:51Speaker 1: one piece to that, and the drugs that we're developing
- 8:53Speaker 1: our other components where we hope to not just increase
- 8:56Speaker 1: overall survival by but by multiple fold, actually get to
- 9:00Speaker 1: that magical cure words someday by addressing these multiple components
- 9:04Speaker 1: of these tumors. And so really that's the business model
- 9:07Speaker 1: is to build these multi components, be able to use
- 9:09Speaker 1: them in the right combinations and patients to get really
- 9:13Speaker 1: significant survival outcomes, you know, not not not small increases.
- 9:17Speaker 1: And of course for for biotech companies in the industry
- 9:19Speaker 1: US bad you have to make money, right, so if
- 9:21Speaker 1: you get this big smash out of a drug, you
- 9:23Speaker 1: save lives, that's the most important thing, and you can
- 9:25Speaker 1: make money. You've got a drug in the works targeting
- 9:29Speaker 1: breast cancer, breast cancers that have not respond to their treatments,
- 9:33Speaker 1: also treatment for non small cell lung cancer, which is
- 9:37Speaker 1: a real aggressive one as well. Give me one example
- 9:41Speaker 1: of what kind of investment you have to put into it,
- 9:43Speaker 1: But then what kind of what kind of reward, what
- 9:45Speaker 1: kind of return you can get on these things? So
- 9:48Speaker 1: you know, Historically, uh, you know, if you look at
- 9:51Speaker 1: the industry as a whole, it takes up three to
- 9:53Speaker 1: five billion dollars to get one drug approved, depending on
- 9:56Speaker 1: you know what source you want to look at. So
- 9:58Speaker 1: the enormous amounts of money. One of the reasons Merrimack
- 10:01Speaker 1: was founded because using all this computing technology and engineering
- 10:04Speaker 1: analysis and m I t UM, we've reduced that by
- 10:08Speaker 1: orders of magnitude, and that um the key is if
- 10:12Speaker 1: you can increase the probability of success. Historically, only seven
- 10:15Speaker 1: of a hundred drugs that go into cancer chemical trials
- 10:18Speaker 1: get approved, and that's really poor odds and it speaks
- 10:21Speaker 1: to the complexity of the disease. If you could improve
- 10:23Speaker 1: that success rate by just ten percent, you cut the
- 10:25Speaker 1: cost of new medicines in half. So globally we're talking
- 10:28Speaker 1: about a major, major health problem with all concerned about
- 10:32Speaker 1: the price of drugs. The route through it we see
- 10:35Speaker 1: is really through innovation in in better success rates and
- 10:38Speaker 1: more precise target of medicines that increase that success rate,
- 10:41Speaker 1: lower the cost of producing the drugs, and lower the
- 10:43Speaker 1: cost of healthcare for all of us. Well more, I
- 10:45Speaker 1: thank you so very much for joining us today. He's
- 10:47Speaker 1: the CEO of Merrimack Pharmaceuticals based in Cambridge, mass As
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