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Class A Sectional 42 Championship Game Preview: Carroll vs. Pioneer (2.78.9) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are listening to a special edition of the Central Indiana Sports Report, our Class A 42 sectional championship game preview between the Carroll Cougars and the Pioneer Panthers with
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to a special edition of the Central Indiana Sports Report with myself, your host Craig Mingell, and Tipton Tribune and Elwood Collider Sports Editor Michelle Garmin, our Class A Section 42 Preview between the Carroll Coogers and the Pioneer Panthers, with WILO radios Sam Whart, out of Frankfurt, he covers the Carroll Coogers, and Valsasaurus of RTC and WRI
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[SPEAKER_03]: in Rochester who covers the Pioneer Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Coming up, we'll be joined by Sam and Val, to discuss Friday's sexual championship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then Michelle Garmin and I will make our sectional championship game predictions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, starting next week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pioneer is coming in to the Sectional 42 Championship game on a roll.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They won nine games in a row since they're only loss of the season 38 to 20 to Miles McGlocklin and the Knox Redskins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They beat cast in 35 to nothing, then previous law in beaten and third ranked front here, 42 to 6 in a very impressive win in last year's section last week's sectional cinlifinal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pioneer eliminated the Cougars 49 to 7 in last year's sectional cinlifinal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Panthers 9th straight win over Carroll, dating back to 1996, Pioneer 7 and 1 all
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[SPEAKER_03]: Panthers quarterback Micah Rans went for over a thousand yards rushing this season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He accomplished that last week and now has one thousand and seven.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has 23 rushing touchdowns and his throne for six more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Panthers defense is given up just 31 points in the last six weeks and is one of just nine active teams in Indiana giving up fewer than 10 points per game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: After beating Whitamack 27 to 14 in the opening round, the coogers got a big 21 to 21 over defending Champion Taylor last Friday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Please stay tuned for Sam Ward, then Valza Saras.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then Michelle and I will be back to make our game predictions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We continue our preview of sectional number 42.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The championship game between the Carol Coogers and the Pioneer Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm joined now by Sam Wart, the sports director at WILO and Sam, this Carol program under Blake Betsner just keeps rolling along, doesn't it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they absolutely do and they're happy to be back in a championship game after losing a little earlier than they expected last year to pioneer in that semi-final game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, they gutted one out against Taylor last week of the 2019 victory and they're excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They know what it's going to take to take down Pioneer and they're ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they took down the defending champion Taylor last week by a point at home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How did that one go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it took a defensive stand, blatant the game with a Taylor going from a two point conversion to take the lead seven minutes to go, and I talked to Blake Bester after the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once his team got the stop on defense, he looked at his quarterback, he looked at his running back, he said,
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[SPEAKER_02]: three first downs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all we need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't play Emory Deaton who's one of their fantastic running backs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't play him on offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been dealing with an injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they didn't play him on offense to the entire game until that last drive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't play him to run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They played him to block for eight miles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they were able to turn that clock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: pick up three first downs and kneel it out to beat Taylor but man it was a it was a dog sight and that one I talked to coach and he said man if you read that game you got your money's worth that's right early in the season Carol gave up 41 points in the comic while they you have 28 and lost the eastern lately the defense has been really good and if you hold
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[SPEAKER_02]: Harris is a fantastic athlete and nobody's been able to shut him down all year and for them to just be able to contain Taylor and that fantastic offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was impressive to see they haven't been given up more than 21 points in a game since September 19 against Eastern where they lost that 128 to 27.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even to Sheridan who's been averaging closer 30 points again they only gave up
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[SPEAKER_03]: And speaking of defenses, Pioneer comes in off of giving up at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pioneer comes in, giving up just six points in the entire section so far.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've only given up 24 points since midway through the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a team that also shut down Carol last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That has to be a concern for Carol, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only team that's been able to do something against Pioneer is Knox and Miles McLaughlin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's not a guy of that caliber I don't think on Carol unless he'd been hiding him all season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be it's going to be tough for for Carol to get things going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to have to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: pull out some, some wrinkles, some tricks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If, if Emery Dayton is healthy for Carol, he's one of their fantastic growing backs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he's healthy, it's going to provide a spark for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they'll be able to do a little bit more on offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, but man, they're going to need kale feeders, they're quarterback and then eight miles and Emery Dayton to be playing their best football.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I have to be different than last year if you remember last year's game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we were there broadcasting that game and the stunts silence after probably the second pioneer touched down to go up 14 to nothing, Carolyn never trailed that much in a game all of last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had really never been tested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were undefeated up into that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the stun silence in that stadium when when Mike Iran's just ran all over Carol last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pioneer was able to kind of do what they want and for Blake Betster, he's got an opportunity to change that narrative this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll take a heck of a good turn around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At least the games are home again, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It isn't home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that will hopefully provide a little bit more Jews to Carol and be able to give them a spark, but man, it's going to be tough to shut down this rushing attack for Pioneer and Carol plays a multiple defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they kind of
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[SPEAKER_02]: mess with their defense a little bit based on who they're playing, but they're going to have to really be stout against this offense if they want to get an opportunity to win the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, they won three in the last four years, like Beth and her only knew how to win sectionals coming into this year, never hadn't won one as Carroll's coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I imagine that they feel like that's their championship to win and we're going to see a Carroll team that's
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ready for some revenge and if you look back the past nine matchups have all gone pioneers way the last win for Carol against pioneer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was 1997.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's it's a long time coming for Carol over pioneer, but in me and they're going to have to overcome a lot on Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having me on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As we continue our preview of Sectional 42, Championship Game between the Pioneer Panthers and the Carol Cougars, we welcome for the first time, Vowse at Sorris.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The sports editor, RTC, and also with WROI radio and Rochester calls football games up there and Val has one of his teams is the pioneer Panthers, tell us what this team's about though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I talked with Coach Adam Barry before the season started and he was talking a lot about defense before the season started and here's the defense of average was 21 last year and I asked him about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said it was good but we want to get it done in single digits and I was skeptical of when he said that again given Pioneer's schedule playing teams like North Juts in the North Miami
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at what they've done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think four or five shots this year in the defense scoring average is done in the single digits, I think it's run nine and a half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... just a great job again at this kind of teams obviously so so well known for its running game uh... going back decades and decades as wing it in its wing t rushing attack but boy it's defense has just been outstanding they have a tiny uh... a two-year frontier team that came in at i think averaging over fifty two point fifty two points again last week in the health of the six and eighty to forty two to six how them under two hundred yards of total offense which was a season low as well
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[SPEAKER_03]: nine wins in a row as you mentioned to five shutouts this year they've outscored their two posties and opponents 77 to six including an unbeaten frontier team last week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Adam Barry's got him playing really well and playing for their first sectional championship since 2020 and they look like the favorites.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well they played in the sectional final last
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that loss is kind of not a them for a whole year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, here's their chance to attend for that loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a very, very proud pioneer program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't believe me, then just turn on the Jacksonville Jack Wars every week and you see Jack Kaiser playing, he's a pioneer grad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a very proud team, a very proud program that they were kind of humbled in 2022 when they went to an eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was shocking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then at a rate of like 26 consecutive winning records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, they've gradually gotten, but they were so young back in 2022 and a lot of those freshmen then are now seniors and they have really grown into a terrific team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the key component is quarterback Micah Rans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a Carroll fan, I'm sure you know very well who Micah Rans is because you ran for 322 yards and five touchdowns in last year's sexual meeting, which Pioneer 149-7-322 yards were a school record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you run for school record at Pioneer, that's saying something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because if you just ran for more yards than anybody in the Kaiser family, because obviously everybody is Jack Kaiser, but his two older brothers Bryce and Sam were also terrific pioneer of football players as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, for Rans to do that, and then Rans actually broke his own record earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he had 325 in a game against North Miami.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, he's a very speedy, elusive quarterback, but he's not the only weapon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a pullback, no-of-an meter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been outstanding this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Meter is also an all-state linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then those two wingbacks have really come on as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Siola Ryan, he is a junior, and Philip McFatrix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a sophomore, and there was actually McFatrix who led the team in rushing last week
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[SPEAKER_01]: frontier and pioneer as a team averaged 11.2 yards of carry as a team, the only attempt to two passes, but when you're averaging 11.2 yards of carry, you don't need to pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is a pioneer team, obviously, that has got better blast couple of years and is really rolling right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're playing a carol team, I think, that's probably not quite as good as what the coogers were a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blake Bessner has done a terrific job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Defensively, they've always been among the state leaders and defensive scoring average.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year that average has gone up a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did allow 19, but to Taylor last week, but that's an explosive Taylor offense with there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how good they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how good they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Zedian Harris and that team, I know full while how good Taylor is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Struggled a little bit on the defense of ending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's when I'm act two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is going to be the key issue in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can Taylor's defense hold down this pioneer wing to your rushing attack with McFatridge and Ryan really stepping up this year, not, you know, they excel at those fleets and off tackle plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you can run it around the perimeter with those two guys, that'll lose some things up on the inside for Vanneeter and for brands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You talked about the defense vowel and giving up less than 10 points per game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, that includes Miles McLaughlin on your schedule.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the very impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should have noted that that's for one loss was to knock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they allow 38 in that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That almost should be like a special category.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It really should be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you hold the leading Russia in the history of forever, 38 points.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a pretty good defense of performance, as you say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they shut out cast and they hold front here to six points.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a defense that seems to be on a mission.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, North Jutson scored 18 points against them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, the defending semi-state champions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, but other than North Miami, haven't really been challenged since then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to point out a number three for Pioneer, you like Guffy at that outside linebackers, but he's a terrific player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be something you have to account for as Coach Bestner and Coach Hendrix and his staff getting ready for this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have to sign a way to block him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pioneers, once with their kind of their slanting defense of linemen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that kind of makes them unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch off for,
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[SPEAKER_01]: McCain to Losa and for JJ Solano, those guys are really good at getting into your your back field and
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[SPEAKER_01]: wrecking up those tackles for loss when when pioneer is playing well, they get a lot of tackles for loss that they slip inside and you're in your back feel and cause a lot of havoc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is going to be key for care all as they try to get some space for laying Peter's the quarterback to get some big yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Peter says, I know it's been huge for them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, Val Coach Barry came to Pioneer in 2016 and kind of immediate success.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You talk about immediate success.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the very definition of a three state championship game appearances and two state championships had a regional championship a couple of years later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then as you mentioned, the two and eight record in 2022, what is it about Coach Barry's program that allowed them to rise again do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's from Pioneer and has basically his entire coaching staff is from Pioneer as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really emphasize the kind of, the pride of the program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's had, and I think that's really helped to see, as these kids had grown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that two and eight sees when they were,
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[SPEAKER_01]: really overwhelmed most of the season they were facing a lot of teams that were bigger and stronger and faster than they were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of that part of that is just stuff where they get better in the weight room and guys to get bigger stronger and faster yourself to get more confident, but also use really emphasize kind of the pride of the program, the pride of pioneer tradition, and it's gotten them on the doorstep potentially of a sectional
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[SPEAKER_01]: do you do predictions?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're pretty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the spot here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I asked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go pioneer in this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 21 to 7 28 to 7 something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're about to make our predictions coming up here in a
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[SPEAKER_03]: I picked Carol to win the sectional coming into the sectional, and I am changing my pick tonight because...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fine here for the big girl and I have to stay with the fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the pants have been great, so I think I'm going to end up picking them, but thank you so much for your time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We really appreciate getting to know you, and hopefully this will become a regular thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should tell you, I've picked Rochester to beat East for a class week, I should just press the sectional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I picked Alexander to win that section.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also how about that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Eastwick went eight for 13 and third down conversions last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I don't think Rochester given up eight eighth third down conversions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The entire season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think my final score prediction was seven and nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was be out when I expected.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Michelle we heard all the facts and figures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've heard the story behind the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that Pioneer routed three-time defending champion Carol last year to win the sectional semi-final.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We heard from our new friends, Valsett Sorris, it Rochester W-O-W-R-O-I and Sam Ward at W-I-L-O from Frankfurt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Michelle, after hearing all of that, here you take in the Pioneer Panthers or the Carol Cougars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pioneer Panthers, I picked them to win this sectional from the outset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going away from it, um, you know, they've looked so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have it and you talk about another program of tradition and that's them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know they had a couple down cycles, but that's classic football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I even shared and the growing are all the years of the great butter right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have sometimes years that you had that, but because you have that tradition and kids you grow up dreaming of being
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[SPEAKER_00]: for shared a Brett law for Pioneer Jack Kaiser, you know, little kids into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He keeps that alive and he keeps your program and you're going to cycle through them and you're going to get better again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what Pioneer has done and I expect them to win all Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Michelle, I picked Carol to win the sectional from the start, but after watching the first two rounds, I can't stay on Carol Pioneer has been overwhelmingly good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Carol has been pretty good in the sectional so far, so give me the Pioneers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much for your time, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Michelle and I did eight sectional previews, so go find one of the other seven and listen to it, please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks again Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Greg.
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