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Stroman to the Yankees · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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  presented by C Kick. This is episode Four O 8.
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  I'll be your host, Kyle Corden. I'm here with my Co host, Nate
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  Reyes. Nate, hey.
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  Oh hell. Oh yeah, let's get it going
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  today. Feeling good.
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  I'm. I'm running high off of Duncan
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  iced coffee. No free ads.
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  But Duncan, if you're listening, please sponsor us.
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  That would be dope. Much appreciated, Duncan.
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  Thank you. You're not a you're not a nice
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  coffee guy though, right? I am an iced coffee guy.
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  But we we found this out like what, a year ago that you had
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  only been to Starbucks in your lifetime maybe what, three
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  times? Correct.
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  Then enter page and we're there three times a week, so I feel
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  like I'm a regular. Old American now Red blooded
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  American. Addicted to the Addicted to the
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  coffee, Yeah. I had hot coffee this morning
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  though. Well, Keurig action.
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  Can't get on board with that. Really, I just can't.
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  So here's here's it was. Nice dude.
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  I started reading a book and I'm like, this morning.
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  I, like, got up. Paige left for work.
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  I'm like, I'm not ready to start my day.
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  Started reading a book. Sip of coffee.
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  I'm like, what's? Happening.
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  You're like, you're who am I? You're like 70 now, dude.
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  I know it's pretty wild. And you get up at like 4:00 AM
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  too, don't you? So.
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  No, no. The sleep in has been real,
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  dude. Soon.
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  That'd be nice. It's hard to get out of bed
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  before before 645. Nowadays it's the cold weather,
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  I think ish. When people ask me, they're
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  like, oh, do you like a coffee? Like, can we can I get, like, if
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  we go over somewhere, they're like, can I get you some coffee?
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  Like, Nah, I'm not really a coffee person.
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  But I'll have the occasional iced coffee and they'll say, oh,
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  like, what's that all about? And I'm like, well, I just don't
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  want to get, I don't want to. What's that?
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  Sugar. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. The.
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  Biggest sweet. Tooth.
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  No. But I tell them I'm like, well,
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  I don't want to get like addicted.
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  I don't want to get reliant on it because you, you, those
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  people that are like, I can't start my day with unless I have.
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  I'm not that guy. Coffee.
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  I'm like, but here's the thing though, dude, the frequency,
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  like the gaps in between my iced coffee runs now are fewer, like
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  smaller and smaller. So I really need to be careful.
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  Otherwise this is going to be a daily thing and I don't I I
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  don't need that. It is weird that like, caffeine
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  is just not only legal, but like shoved in our face every corner.
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  It is super addictive and our society's just like, no, it's
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  all good. This isn't a drug.
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  I went down a rabbit hole the other day, sort of related.
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  I went down a a rabbit hole the other day and it was a
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  conspiracy video like a TikTok or something on how sugar is
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  manufactured to make us Dumber. And it sounds crazy, but you do.
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  You do a little deep dive. No dude, it doesn't sound crazy
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  to me. I'm fully on board with a lot of
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  stuff lately. Conspiracies are starting to
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  feel a little more real. Hiding in plain sight, sugar is
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  just the the legal drug that they shove in our faces anyway.
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  Little little baseball housekeeping before we get
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  started. I was telling you just before we
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  got on, I started a Facebook group.
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  For those who don't know, but believe it or not, Facebook is
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  far and above our best platform. Not a lot of people know that
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  because people just love to get on there and argue.
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  But I started a Facebook group through the through our, our
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  account, like through our page. And I was thinking, yeah, you
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  know, it'll take, it'll take a minute or two to to get going or
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  whatever. Within like 24 hours, we're
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  almost at like 900 people already.
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  So just a little plug, little plug for for you or for those of
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  you who have a Facebook and are listening.
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  It's basically just a little group I put together looking at
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  it right now. It's called Today in Baseball.
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  It's pinned on our on our page at the top you'll see it just a
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  little group. I wanted to get some baseball
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  people together and you know, chat Baseball people are already
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  dropping in like pictures of their memorabilia collections.
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  The stadium tattoo last year. I love it.
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  I I thought I'd have to get the get the wheels turn a little bit
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  myself, but it's already self-sufficient.
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  So hop on in there if you're on Facebook and get get rolling
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  with that. One last thing, I just wanted to
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  put a note out there, a little preview that I am pumped to do
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  our deep dive into Ricky Henderson's as as part of our
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  Unbreakable Records mini series at the end of this episode.
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  Dude, I'm just a little teaser. I'm.
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  I think I love that. Like it's it's gonna, I think
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  have people like, what is that real?
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  Like how is this really a record?
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  Like how is that number really out there?
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  I've got some people. Forget man, people forget.
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  I forgot some of the stuff I didn't even know.
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  Yeah, I like it. It'll it'll.
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  Put some things into perspective that'll have your head spinning,
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  so stick around for that. We'll we'll get to that at the
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  end of the episode. But leading us off here, the
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  newest #2 in the rotation for your New York Yankees, We
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  alluded to it last episode. We we said that it was close,
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  that he was likely going to end up with one of our two ball
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  clubs and we were exactly right on that I think.
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  Couple hours, Yep. Yeah, he was.
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  He was. It was announced.
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  It was official today, actually. I I don't know why it took a
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  number of number of days, but it was announced today that he is
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  officially with the club. So, Marcus Stroman, you are a
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  New York Yankee. Nate.
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  Thoughts. Emotional fan reaction.
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  I don't love it. I've never been a Strowman guy,
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  personally, It's a lot of me, me, me.
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  I don't know, dude. Just like, I just want winners,
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  You know what I mean? Like, I would.
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  I just want selfless winners. As a Yankees fan, like, that's
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  all I'm hoping for. I don't know.
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  As far as like a baseball monetary move, I think it's not
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  that bad two years, 37 mil. There's a clause for a player
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  option in 2026 if he crosses over the 140 innings pitched in
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  2025. So there's like incentive for
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  health and longevity. It's not breaking the bank.
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  I feel a lot better about this if they go finish with another
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  move for the rotation. I would agree to add a little
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  perspective to that vesting option to reach 140 Indians in
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  2025. He threw 136 2/3 last season and
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  138 2/3 in 2022, but he. I put in averages 144.
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  He crossed his career. He's reached 140, I believe,
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  four times in his career, so that's certainly within within
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  reach for Shroman. Sit there.
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  He's 32. I totally forgot when I was
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  looking at numbers he I forgot that he took off 2020, the COVID
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  year. Not that it's like that's a ton
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  of bullets being used, but you know, kind of shave 1/2 a year
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  off of this. It's just the health.
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  I mean, I think it's the health that that kind of worries me the
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  most. It's the great first half last
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  year, horrible second-half last year makes me nervous.
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  I don't have him slaughtered at 2:00, but like looking at the
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  rotation, I. He's got to be two.
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  He's. He feels like Garrett Cole and
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  then there's like a group of #3 and four starters.
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  There is no two. Absolutely.
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  But of those three and four starters, Strowman has to be
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  your #2. Rodan has not shown you that.
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  He's getting, yeah. I've Nestor at 2:00, but like, I
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  don't. I don't know, man.
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  Maybe 2021 or 2022 rather was just a fluke.
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  I don't. I don't know about that Clark
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  Schmidt running out at 5:00, so he's not in the mix.
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  So it's like, you know, Stroman's that 3-4.
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  It's weird, dude. The Yankees are weird.
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  They they give like there's like a seniority thing outside of
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  like, superstar signing. Like, you know, you're not
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  fitting into like this high leverage spot.
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  Soto is an exception, right? Like, you're Soto.
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  So we're going to throw you in the middle of the line up, but
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  like, there's just there. They have this weird.
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  That's why they were out on Yamamoto.
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  Yamamoto wanted more money than what Garrett Cole has.
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  And the Yankees are like, we don't see it.
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  Sorry. So like, there's this weird,
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  like, it's not like nostalgia or legacy, but it is kind of like
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  this pecking order that they have.
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  You have to earn your pinstripes.
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  That's a thing. We hear it every year.
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  So if Brett So based on what you're telling me, if Brett
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  Gardner expressed interest in returning as the starting left
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  fielder, could he slot right in given the years that he's he's
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  accumulated as a as a Yankee? No, probably not, but.
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  Tip of the tip of the cap to. That but there is that thing
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  though there is like this we no I they I, they struggle to like
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  let old guys go because they've earned their right to be there.
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  And so like we saw it with CC, we saw it with Brett Gardner,
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  we've seen it for years of like there's leaving guys in their
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  role because they've earned the right to it.
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  And on the other side of the spectrum, you're not here yet.
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  You haven't proven anything yet. So therefore you haven't earned
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  your stripes and you know you're not in that spot.
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  So I would I would guess three or four in the rotation, but I
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  don't really care this there. There needs to be one more
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  addition. I I think every team should at
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  least have 6 bona fide starters. At least that should be the
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  minimum. Who do you think is is within
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  reason right now for a potential additional starter?
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  Like is it safe to say they're out on Snell?
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  Because I'm just trying to think of a scenario where they slot
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  somebody in a head of if they going with with my rotation.
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  I mean you you obviously have him in a different spot, but say
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  he slots in #2. I have a hard time picturing
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  anybody outside of Snell. That they would maybe Jordan
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  Montgomery maybe I would probably put Jordan Montgomery
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  above him. It's just I don't I I don't know
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  if they you know burn that bridge.
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  He seems like he's more desiring to go back to Texas.
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  Wasn't it the Yank? Didn't I see the report recently
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  where it said he would rather stay with Texas over returning
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  to Is that? Was it the Yankees that I saw?
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  OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's got that working against
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  you, but. Yeah.
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  But I mean, if that, if that's the case, then you're looking at
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  3 righties, 3 lefties if you if you're going 6.
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  So and then outside of like free agents, I don't, I don't know.
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  I mean there's still the the trade market.
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  It's just about finding somebody you can go get.
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  But I I just, I don't want the, I don't want it to end with
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  Strowman. I don't think that's like the
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  chef's kiss, you know what I mean?
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  Like we we definitely need a little more help there.
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  So please don't let that be the highlight of the offseason as
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  far as signings. I can't wait.
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  I I may have already said this, but I can't wait.
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  To text me this. How he responds at no, not.
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  I'm not even talking about Devers.
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  I'm talking about I can't wait to see how he and the Old Bronx
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  Faith will get along after his first poor outing and they're
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  letting him hear it on on Twitter.
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  The few people that remain that haven't been blocked yet of
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  course, but I'm I'm curious to see how that goes because he.
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  Is a track record. Of it not going well.
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  He's from New York. So which is another thing these
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  like the little bit of the attitude.
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  I I think that's probably the only way because like if to
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  survive in New York you either have to be the guy that like
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  gives the perfect answer, your heartbeat stays this, the Jeter,
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  the Jeter or. You're the guy that claps back.
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  Or you're David Wells. You're super, super emotional.
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  Love me or hate me, but I'm going to be me.
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  I'm going to say my words Take it or leave it.
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  And then you have you got the Yankee faithful on your side.
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  I think he would be better. Going that route.
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  Should be like, hey, here's me, I've got my swagger.
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  I've got my attitude. You Yankee fans are the same way
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  I am. Let's be boys, just don't come
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  in here and try to act like Aaron Judge.
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  Don't suddenly turn and change your your characteristics that
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  make you what you are. You know what I mean?
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  Yeah, spare me on the whole. Grew up a Yankees fan thing.
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  It's all, oh, yeah, that's how it's that's how it's been his
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  whole career. It's about fitting the
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  narrative. Yeah.
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  When he was with the Mets, all you saw was pictures of him as a
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  kid. Yeah, decked out in Mets gear.
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  Yeah, I don't need that. I'm all good.
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  And now it's oh, look at the pictures of of young little
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  Marcus Stroman rocking the Yankees gear.
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  I don't need that. Just pitch, dude.
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  I don't. Stop trying to convince me that
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  you're you're like this lifelong Yankees guy.
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  You very well may be, But stick with that narrative.
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  Like, let that be the picture picture that circulates.
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  Don't try to play to each fan base the way you do.
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  I'm all for trying to like pander a little bit when you get
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  there, but this guy is all about pandering.
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  And then when it goes South, then it's well, the fan base is
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  racist or I hate that city. The front office sucks.
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  They mismanaged me as an asset. I just nailed it.
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  That's his whole career, so. I don't.
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  See it? I don't see it changing anytime
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  soon, but who knows, maybe the pinstripes will.
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  Did you see the the post that he put out, like on his story said
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  he's excited to put on and he put in all caps the pinstripes.
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  Obviously Cubs wear pinstripes, so maybe that was like a little
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  bit of like a jab. I don't I I don't understand
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  what you have. There's always like this.
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  Burning a bridge. That's what I'm saying.
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  There's always like this underlying like jab.
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  It's it's strange. It's strange.
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  I'd, I'm not a fan of the guy but if you come here and do
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  well, you come here and do well. So whatever.
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  I did see he only gave up nine home runs last year, so.
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  He's got to stay. He's got to stay healthy.
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  Like I said with especially and you you know far better than I
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  do. But with Rodon and and some
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  other scenarios of of guys not being able to provide that
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  consistency, he just has to stay healthy.
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  And he's got to give you those starts, those innings that that
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  you so desperately that any team desperately needs.
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  Like you need guys that you can rely on, especially if they're
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  front end guys. And if he does slot in it too,
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  then there's going to be a little bit of added pressure
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  there for him, so. Go get snow.
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  I'm happy I could be on on that point.
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  I could see it happening at this point because I think a couple
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  teams that were maybe in on snow initially have have fallen out
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  of it at this point. Yeah, I I thought he would have
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  signed by now, but. So did I.
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  I agree. Is he?
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  He's a Boris guy, right? Sure.
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  I think he's a Boris guy, so he's probably just waiting it
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  out. Yes, boys, guys tend to do.
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  But yeah, I could see him. I haven't heard much on the
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  Mariners front, which could, I don't know.
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  I could lean either way on that. But at this point, the Yankees
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  have shown they're not afraid to make a move, so I could very
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  well see that being the place Snellens up, which in that
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  scenario drops Strowman 3. Snell would slot into.
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  Strowman would be 3, you'd have Rodon at 4, and that's.
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  That's what I'm saying. Like if you scoot everyone down.
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  Clark's the odd man out in that in that case.
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  Yeah, but I got no problem with easing some guys in.
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  Sure, she's going six man rotation for a little bit.
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  Give Cole his typical schedule. Let other guys do what they need
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  to do. Speaking of starters and
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  bullpens and schedules, Jordan Hicks apparently as a starter
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  now for the San Francisco Giants after signing a four year, $44
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  million contract. They said the plan is to convert
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  him from the pin to a starter. He's got a little bit of a
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  little bit of time on the bump as a starter, I believe in the
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  minors and then he started for the Cards for a handful of games
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  and has some experience opening as well.
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  Not necessarily the same, but he has been handed the ball to open
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  a game before. So not it's not ground breaking
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  for him in that regard, but we we shall see.
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  The Giants have taken an interesting approach to their
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  pitching this offseason, if I do say so myself, Getting a guy
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  from the pen, converting them to a starter.
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  You go out and get Robbie Ray, who we've already talked about
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  but is coming off of injury surgery and you're going to have
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  to wait him him out till at least the All Star break.
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  Is that what we said? At least.
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  So I don't know. I mean, rather than going and
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  getting just a guy who's healthy and can give you innings, and
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  it's not necessarily an experiment, they're like, no,
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  we're going to do quite the opposite.
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  We're going to go get a guy who we need to wait out to the All
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  Star break and we're going to go get a reliever who throws Chad
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  that we know won't be sustainable over the course of
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  6-7, possibly 8 innings. But we're going to.
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  We're going to work. On waiting to Yeah, I was
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  waiting to see where you fell on that what side of the fence you
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  fell on. I agree.
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  I mean, it's just weird. It's just weird.
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  The contract itself is not. No, I don't think the money's
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  bad. For the bids that they've made,
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  this is a fraction of what they so I mean to get a guy.
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  Who upside? I mean, there's a ceiling there.
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  Sure. And he's had success.
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  I'm all I'm all about it. I just don't know, given the
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  state of your rotation as it stands.
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  Because if you think about it, Logan Webb is your only real
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  solified or like solidified guy. Everything else is either an
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  experiment or a question mark or unproven.
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  Yeah, that's that's kind of what we're dealing with.
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  What does the rotation rotation look like?
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  I saw eight starts in 2022, by the way, which I'm assuming
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  we're all opens technically. You've got Ross, friend of the
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  pod. Ross.
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  Stripling's in there. Robbie Ray, as I mentioned, but
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  you got to wait, wait on him. Alex Cobb is also out to start
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  the season, not for the whole season, I don't believe.
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  Just to start. You got some prospects in there,
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  Kyle Harrison keep the win. So I mean, comparatively, we're
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  talking about the Yankees rotation having some some
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  question marks. Definitely some question marks
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  here. I would much rather be in the
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  Yankees boat than for sure the Giants boat, because those those
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  question marks are far greater. Yeah, I'm looking at this whole
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  roster. So it's just, it's just so
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  weird. It's just a weird roster.
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  Chill out on the outfielders. These guys aren't tradable.
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  Like you can't trade JD Davis. He did nothing last year.
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  You can't trade Wilmer Flores Conforto Yas.
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  I thought, I mean, maybe not over the course of the whole
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  season, but didn't JD have a have a spurt last year where he
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  kind of went off? But I.
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  Thought he was unhealthy for most of the year, wasn't he?
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  Am I thinking of last year? Outside of Tyro Estrada, I'm
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  like, everybody should be up for grabs.
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  Outside of him and Patrick Bailey I he.
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  Had a little bit of a run last year.
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  JD Make a move like do something.
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  That's the thing, though. We talked about this.
• 22:42
  They try and they try and they try.
• 22:44
  Again, and they they don't. They never trade.
• 22:47
  They just bank on like 1 superstar signing to fix
• 22:51
  everything and then you swing and miss on every superstar.
• 22:56
  It's just it's strange. It's it's weird.
• 23:01
  Try something different, do something new.
• 23:05
  Stop signing veteran outfielders and then appease your fan base
• 23:13
  by saying, well, we went after him, he just didn't agree to the
• 23:16
  contract. What?
• 23:19
  Assuming this chart. You're right on on all those
• 23:24
  things by the way, but I'm I'm looking, I'm looking at this
• 23:27
  chart and cause in my head I'm like, why do I get to?
• 23:33
  Why do I feel like in my gut that the Giants have made an
• 23:37
  effort to shift away from their geriatric roster that they held
• 23:41
  on to for so long? And assuming this chart is
• 23:46
  correct, it does not appear as though they're in the upper
• 23:52
  tier. They're middle of the pack now.
• 23:56
  Yeah, they're middle of the pack.
• 23:58
  ESPN has them at 14, average age, sitting at 27.3.
• 24:08
  Let me double check second opinion here.
• 24:11
  So it's not, when you talk about them not wanting to trade, it's
• 24:22
  not that they're necessarily not willing to trade so that they
• 24:26
  can rely on one or two superstars and then a bunch of
• 24:30
  40 year olds. It used to.
• 24:32
  It used to be that. But I think they've shifted away
• 24:36
  from that and are now trying to produce some homegrown talent,
• 24:41
  bring guys up through the system.
• 24:43
  And maybe with that shift, maybe they just haven't gotten around
• 24:46
  to it yet. But maybe there's going to be a
• 24:48
  shift in philosophy and and maybe some trades start to
• 24:53
  happen. I think they're running out of
• 24:54
  time given what's left in the conversation, if you will.
• 25:00
  The names are being kind of floated around.
• 25:02
  I mean you you could make a trade at any point.
• 25:04
  I'm not saying it's impossible, but you know the teams are going
• 25:07
  to float their guys out there such as like a a Dylan Sees and
• 25:13
  you've already seen what happened with Dylan sees.
• 25:14
  They floated them out there, didn't really like their turn.
• 25:16
  So they they're pulling them back most likely and and are
• 25:19
  going to ride it out till at least the deadline.
• 25:21
  So if you're the Giants and you want to make something happen,
• 25:25
  you need to make it happen somewhat soon.
• 25:29
  I don't. I don't see the wild card being
• 25:34
  an option for them. Obviously the division isn't an
• 25:39
  option for them, so it's like, why are you still sticking with
• 25:47
  these older players? I'd rather just bring guys up
• 25:49
  and give them more experience. See what you got.
• 25:53
  You got your you got blockades all over the place, your
• 25:57
  outfield, your corner infield. If you finally got to move on
• 26:03
  from Brandon Crawford, and nothing against Brandon
• 26:05
  Crawford. But it's like, you know what
• 26:06
  you're getting. Like you know you're getting out
• 26:09
  of these guys and it's not an 85 win team.
• 26:15
  Just don't see it. So bring up some youth, figure
• 26:20
  out what you're doing. I don't know.
• 26:23
  I don't know. Just doesn't get me fired up.
• 26:28
  You haven't been fired up about the Giants in it's.
• 26:31
  Yeah. A long.
• 26:32
  Time. If they're, they're sneaking
• 26:34
  into Brewer territory for me, and that's dangerous.
• 26:40
  If you're the Giants and you're listening, you don't want to be
• 26:42
  there. You you don't want to get on
• 26:44
  Nate's Brewer side? Dangerous waters?
• 26:47
  Forget bad side. You don't want to be on his
• 26:49
  Brewer side. The Braves extend Alex
• 26:55
  Anthropolis through the 2031 season.
• 27:02
  Duh, duh. I hate it.
• 27:07
  I love it, but I hate it. That's that's it.
• 27:09
  That's the best way I can put it.
• 27:10
  I. If you're not a brave fan, you
• 27:12
  hate it because you're jealous, yes?
• 27:16
  That's that's that's really what what we're doing.
• 27:18
  It's all it is, just, at its core, just jealousy.
• 27:22
  Yeah, I mean, dude, it's genius. I don't get how he does it and I
• 27:30
  I make this joke all the time, but I'm really starting to think
• 27:33
  that there's truly some like black magic.
• 27:39
  I don't know what it is it. It doesn't make sense how he's
• 27:44
  able to pull off such team friendly deals.
• 27:47
  And the point that I've made with this all along is that sure
• 27:51
  you could maybe get one or two guys on the whole, hey, like,
• 27:55
  this is this is for the future. If you if you'll work with us,
• 27:59
  we can guarantee you rings years to come.
• 28:03
  You won't be able to get your bag that maybe you'd get
• 28:05
  elsewhere. But we're taking a risk on you.
• 28:08
  You take a risk on us and let's do it for the movement.
• 28:11
  You can get a couple guys on that but you can't convince me
• 28:16
  that every one of these guys that has signed such a team
• 28:21
  friendly deal is on board with that It it doesn't make sense
• 28:25
  because some of these guys are going to go.
• 28:27
  I'm good. I'll I'm passing on your quote
• 28:29
  UN quote movement and I want to get my money.
• 28:33
  But every offseason it seems now for the last however many years
• 28:38
  it's oh they they signed this guy for a bag of chips to for 12
• 28:42
  years. I I don't know how it happens,
• 28:44
  but good for the Braves for going and locking down their
• 28:46
  guy. This is just a wizard.
• 28:51
  He's just a wizard. I don't know.
• 28:53
  There's no other way to say it. He is creative with moving money
• 28:58
  around and like, it's not just the contracts, it's not just the
• 29:04
  extensions, it's the moves he makes in in the maneuvering
• 29:09
  around making it make sense. He's like genuinely maximizing
• 29:17
  payroll and roster and longevity and it helps that, like you
• 29:26
  gotta give the Braves organization equal credit
• 29:28
  because like you developed, you know, your cornerstones, you
• 29:34
  developed some of these guys and you struck gold on them being
• 29:40
  super, super talented and you beat them to the punch when it
• 29:46
  comes to extension. So like it's it's kind of a full
• 29:49
  circle. It's just a perfect storm that's
• 29:51
  it's gone all Braves way and then you add in, you drop in a
• 29:56
  couple vets that are like willing to win and boom, all of
• 30:01
  a sudden you're a problem for a decade.
• 30:03
  Exactly. And you bring up a good point
• 30:05
  about maximizing productivity. The, I think the thing that the
• 30:07
  Braves do so well as opposed to a team, just, I mean just
• 30:14
  recently that comes to mind, like the Padres, they're getting
• 30:17
  these guys, they're signing them to long term deals, but they're
• 30:21
  maximizing the right years for these guys.
• 30:24
  They're not getting these guys in their late.
• 30:26
  They're not, they're not running these guys out to their late 30s
• 30:29
  into the early 40s. They're getting these guys just
• 30:33
  at the right time. You're getting the right number
• 30:35
  of years and if you want to keep them around or extend them at a
• 30:38
  certain point a handful of years into the contract, so be it.
• 30:42
  But at least for the time being up front, you're getting these
• 30:45
  guys for the the the best years that they're more than likely
• 30:50
  going to give you. Which is hoarding prospects
• 30:52
  either, which is obviously they have.
• 30:56
  Are just off the charts, man. That's.
• 30:58
  Crazy. That's That's a pet peeve for
• 30:59
  both both of us, the prospect hoarding.
• 31:03
  Move along. You got a superstar in that
• 31:06
  position. Move all your prospects that are
• 31:09
  playing that position and continue to fill out the big
• 31:12
  league roster. They're doing it right, dude.
• 31:16
  The guy's a genius and it's like, it's no brainer.
• 31:20
  Did we see what the money was worth?
• 31:24
  I don't. Does it matter?
• 31:26
  Public. Let's see.
• 31:32
  Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it
• 31:33
  matters. Watch it just it's like an
• 31:35
  ownership stake or something. It's like 500 bucks and then a
• 31:37
  3% revenue. I'll take $1.00.
• 31:40
  Yeah. It'd be wildly ironic if it was
• 31:48
  for just Boku Bucks. Is it Boku or Buku Buku.
• 31:55
  I thought it was Boku. Is it Buku?
• 31:57
  Buku Bucks. I don't know if this stuff
• 32:00
  becomes public. What do you think of Boku is or
• 32:04
  a Buku? Is it Boku or Buku?
• 32:16
  Are you looking it up? I am looking it up.
• 32:20
  Definition of boku means many or a lot.
• 32:22
  I mean, I could have guessed that.
• 32:24
  Can I get a? Can I get like the Google?
• 32:27
  It's a pronunciation. It's a play.
• 32:31
  Well, I don't. I don't have that pulled up.
• 32:33
  But it does say it's a play on the French word boku BEAUCOUP.
• 32:42
  What does that mean? French bucks?
• 32:48
  Many or a lot? We don't use it More than just
• 32:53
  bucks, We don't say. Like I've got buku cookies in my
• 32:56
  cookie jar. Yeah, Buku bucks just rolls off
• 33:00
  the tongue. Sure does.
• 33:01
  Boku. Buku.
• 33:02
  I don't know Boku. I like Boku says be OK you Boku.
• 33:08
  Anyway, you know who has a lot? Who has Boku Bucks but chooses
• 33:15
  not to spend any of them? The Boston Red Sox and they,
• 33:22
  Craig Breslow came out recently and just dropped a bombshell.
• 33:26
  I'd say a bombshell. I mean, I think you could have
• 33:28
  seen this coming from a mile away given the way the
• 33:30
  offseason's been going. But it just hurts to hear it
• 33:35
  because, you know, like as a fan of the team, you're holding that
• 33:37
  hope. Like, OK, we bring, we get rid
• 33:39
  of Heim. We we bring in Craig Breslow and
• 33:43
  you know you've got Tom Warner saying we're this team is going
• 33:46
  full throttle. This offseason, post Craig
• 33:49
  Breslow edition, you bring him in you got, as I said Tom Warner
• 33:54
  come in and say we're going full, full throttle.
• 33:56
  They haven't gone full throttle. I don't even know if they've
• 33:59
  started the car. But you had Craig Breslow.
• 34:03
  I think he, he had an interview with the Globe or something the
• 34:06
  other day and his quote was as follows.
• 34:09
  As I've gotten to know this organization better through the
• 34:11
  conversations I've had with ownership, they absolutely are
• 34:14
  still supportive of assembling a World Series team as quickly as
• 34:17
  we possibly can. But I think the reality is that
• 34:20
  it's going to require a step forward from the young position
• 34:23
  players. It's going to require the build
• 34:25
  out of a talent pipeline of arms that we can acquire, we draft
• 34:28
  and we can develop internally and it's going to require
• 34:32
  aggressive player development in the minor leagues, in the major
• 34:35
  leagues. So guys that we think are the
• 34:36
  next wave, Marcella Meyer, Roman Anthony, Kyle, Thiel, that group
• 34:41
  are not just big leaguers but impact big leaguers.
• 34:43
  The convergence of all of those pieces is the fastest path to a
• 34:47
  World Series team. We want to build this thing in a
• 34:49
  way that there's just not quality once in a while, but
• 34:52
  there's quality paired with consistency.
• 34:55
  In other words, we're waiting it out for this young wave of
• 34:58
  talent that's coming up in a number of years and.
• 35:01
  In other words, yeah, we're going to enjoy last place until
• 35:04
  2026. In other words, go sit in the
• 35:07
  corner, Red Sox fans, and suck on your thumbs, because we're
• 35:11
  doing nothing. In other words, don't say that
• 35:14
  you're going full throttle this off season.
• 35:17
  You would think you would think that would be the way to go as
• 35:21
  as a front office who has little self-awareness.
• 35:27
  I I'm not surprised that they put their foot in the mouth this
• 35:29
  way. But you would think, knowing
• 35:33
  that this was the plan all along, that you wouldn't say
• 35:35
  full throttle. At the very least, just don't
• 35:37
  say anything at all and let this come out naturally.
• 35:40
  And people are still going to be disappointed.
• 35:42
  But it wouldn't have been following a quote such as saying
• 35:47
  we're going full throttle, only for fans to be let down when
• 35:50
  they realize we're punting until maybe 2026.
• 35:55
  Just an absolute. Joke, dude.
• 35:57
  Tough. The real tough.
• 35:58
  I think One of the Verdugo quotes in the Yankee Press
• 36:02
  series, he was like, it was kind of strange to see Fenway half
• 36:06
  empty, like you're never used to.
• 36:07
  That hasn't been that way in a long time.
• 36:11
  There's been a there's been a movement on Twitter or on social
• 36:14
  altogether, I guess that people are, they're fed up, dude.
• 36:20
  They're not. There's a lot of people that are
• 36:21
  saying they're not going to Fenway next year, which I mean,
• 36:24
  it's going to sell out. So many people, including
• 36:27
  myself, for like it's a tourist attraction.
• 36:30
  Like people are going to show up and they know that.
• 36:32
  That's the thing that's frustrating.
• 36:33
  It's like it's really hard with this franchise more than others
• 36:37
  to prove a point financially. Like you can't stick it to him
• 36:40
  because. It's a bucket list thing.
• 36:41
  It's a bucket list place for baseball fans.
• 36:43
  Exactly. People are going to show up and
• 36:45
  people are going to spend money. People are like people are
• 36:48
  clamoring for fans, like bring hot dogs from home.
• 36:50
  I'm like, OK, that's a that's a bit too far.
• 36:52
  I'm not really hot dogs in my pocket.
• 36:56
  One, because it have no way of heating them up.
• 37:00
  And two, if you're coming from out of town, that means you're
• 37:06
  going to have to stop on the street corner, pick them up,
• 37:08
  bring them in. It's just a mess.
• 37:10
  You don't have the. Ability to do a lot going on a.
• 37:13
  Lot of moving parts. But yeah man, I honestly, and I
• 37:18
  was hoping maybe you could just walk me through it real quick to
• 37:21
  to help me get my feet on the ground.
• 37:23
  I really don't know how to feel about this year because I told
• 37:26
  you that I'm I was, I was going to be in a much better place
• 37:30
  this year. I.
• 37:31
  Do remember that. With this team, because I just
• 37:33
  wanted, I'm gone. Although I will acknowledge that
• 37:37
  I I think with everything that's come out, especially this quote,
• 37:40
  we're realizing that Haim, I think was scapegoated a little
• 37:44
  bit more than gave credit for. Frankly, I just still wanted
• 37:50
  them gone. I I just needed a new even if he
• 37:52
  was handcuffed a little bit or a lot I just I needed something
• 37:56
  like something fresh to work with because I I just got tired
• 38:01
  of reading the headlines of inabilities to make trades and
• 38:06
  and so on and so forth. So I just I needed something new
• 38:10
  and to bring in a former player. I was like, all right, he's
• 38:12
  going to be, he's going to be new at this but let's let's roll
• 38:15
  with this. Let's ride.
• 38:16
  And it's been a relatively still offseason, but I just don't know
• 38:21
  what these comments I don't know how to feel about this upcoming
• 38:25
  season. Like are you saying, are you
• 38:27
  saying that you you are somewhat forgiving?
• 38:31
  I'm Bloom in a way. A little bit.
• 38:35
  I mean I'll hand up, I'll acknowledge that like I was
• 38:38
  probably knowing what we know now is probably a little hard
• 38:40
  on. But like I said, you still in
• 38:43
  his position, you have the ability.
• 38:45
  He wasn't, he wasn't new to a front office when he got here.
• 38:49
  So like, even if you're hand cut financially, go out and make a
• 38:52
  trade. But you heard about all these
• 38:54
  agents talking about like, why? Why is Heimblum treating the Red
• 38:59
  Sox like a small market team? Like why does he get cold feet
• 39:02
  on trades? Why does he never want to lose a
• 39:04
  trade you got? You have to be willing to take
• 39:06
  risk to lose a trade every once in a while.
• 39:08
  If it means making a move to shake things up a little bit, to
• 39:11
  possibly improve your team, who knows?
• 39:13
  He just he didn't do that. So I I I put that on him all.
• 39:18
  Right. Let's do this, then.
• 39:20
  This will help me figure out where you're at.
• 39:22
  I want you to rank these blooms. OK, you got Heimblum, You got
• 39:28
  Orlando Bloom, and then you got the Bloomin Onion from Outback.
• 39:32
  Rank those and you. That'll tell me where we're at
• 39:36
  mentally. I'll be completely honest, I
• 39:38
  don't even remember what Orlando Bloom was in.
• 39:41
  I know, Orlando. Pirates of the Caribbean.
• 39:44
  No, that's that's not. Yes, he is in Pirates of the
• 39:47
  Caribbean. Yeah.
• 39:47
  Yeah, when I think Orlando Bloom, I think Johnny Depp,
• 39:52
  weirdly enough, so. Probably.
• 39:55
  Because of Pirates of the Caribbean, I think, yeah.
• 39:57
  No, but I'm saying sometimes I get them mixed up.
• 40:00
  Sure, sure. I would go, I'd go blooming
• 40:06
  onion. Orlando Bloom behind Bloom.
• 40:09
  Blooming onion at the top? Yeah, 100% slaps.
• 40:14
  Severely underrated. So that's where I'm at right
• 40:17
  now. Outback has slept on, in my
• 40:18
  opinion. That's fair.
• 40:21
  That makes me understand that you, like you, somewhat
• 40:23
  forgiven, but like, not that much.
• 40:27
  That's fair. That's where we're at.
• 40:28
  And I I just don't know, like I can't.
• 40:36
  I I knew this was like at at the start of the offseason or or
• 40:41
  post Craig Breslow hiring. I knew that this was still a
• 40:45
  possibility. Like I knew that there was
• 40:47
  possibility they weren't going to do much.
• 40:48
  I was hopeful that they would. They pulled his trigger on some
• 40:50
  moves, but I didn't know just quite how to feel about it.
• 40:56
  But I felt generally that I was in a better position than last.
• 41:00
  I was in a much better position than I was last year because I
• 41:03
  had, I had no interest in in following that team last year
• 41:07
  the way I had years prior. But with this now it's like, all
• 41:11
  right. So you're just telling me it's
• 41:12
  more the same it's another last place finish for possibly the
• 41:15
  next two years maybe even beyond that.
• 41:18
  If if what you're telling me about 2026 is a joke like and
• 41:24
  people are saying, well, it's just spoiled Red Sox.
• 41:26
  Yeah, yes and no. Like I don't care.
• 41:30
  I don't care how recently they won a World Series.
• 41:32
  Like no fan should be should be accepting of their ownership
• 41:36
  group, just being like, yeah, we're going to punt when you
• 41:41
  have the resources to be better than you currently are, which
• 41:45
  they do, but they choose not to so that they can pocket the
• 41:49
  money. I don't know what they're doing,
• 41:51
  but I don't know. Should I feel better or?
• 41:54
  Should I feel like to? I think by the end of May, you
• 41:58
  need to tell me who's going to have a better record at the end
• 42:01
  of the year, the Mets or the OR the Red The Red Sox, by the end
• 42:05
  of May. I need an answer by that point.
• 42:07
  That's a valid question because that I'm kind of putting them in
• 42:09
  the same boat right now because you we we talked about it all
• 42:12
  the time multiple times since that story leaked.
• 42:16
  But it's like you got the Mets saying we're good, Red Sox
• 42:19
  saying we're good. We'll see you in a year or two.
• 42:21
  Best case scenario, you have an excellent start from Lucas
• 42:27
  Giolito in the first half of the year and you flip them and you
• 42:30
  get some names you know for the future.
• 42:32
  I guess, but like, do I mean, I'm going to support the Red
• 42:37
  Sox. I'm going to support the
• 42:38
  players. That's that's.
• 42:39
  Not you need to. I think it's.
• 42:41
  I think it's more important you find the right team in the NL
• 42:45
  that you'd like to, you'd like to.
• 42:47
  Well, I already have that. It's.
• 42:49
  D backs again or. No, not the D backs that.
• 42:54
  That was just a team that I thought was going to make a
• 42:55
  little bit of noise. Yeah, it's yeah, how do I I want
• 43:01
  to like strategically boycott though?
• 43:03
  Like, do I just not buy officially licensed team gear?
• 43:07
  Like, 'cause I saw some people being on there like, hey, still
• 43:10
  support the team like in the in the replies, they're like still
• 43:13
  support the team, which is buy used gear or buy like knock off
• 43:17
  gear that. You do you do kind of scavenge
• 43:22
  through some some eBay. Marketplace.
• 43:27
  Yeah, I do. Very.
• 43:28
  Good in that category, so. I'm in that life, man.
• 43:33
  Maybe that's the route I take. Probably.
• 43:35
  Probably. I don't.
• 43:36
  Know if I'm. I don't know if I make it up to
• 43:37
  Boston this year, so I at least I'm gonna be putting money in
• 43:41
  their pockets that way. We'll see.
• 43:42
  Yeah, yeah, the idea they don't come to DC right?
• 43:47
  So your only your only hope is worth more.
• 43:50
  Yeah, and. And I went to the games in DC
• 43:54
  and I hated it. Yeah.
• 43:57
  I hated it. It was.
• 43:58
  It was not enjoyable. Think you know where you stand
• 44:01
  then? I won't even.
• 44:06
  Yeah. I won't even get to the point of
• 44:07
  talking noise to you this year. I just want a year where we can.
• 44:12
  Where we can I want. A year worth, seriously, where
• 44:15
  we're both freaking good and we're just.
• 44:17
  Hurting each other's feelings to the point where, like, we're
• 44:20
  debating on whether or not we should record an episode because
• 44:22
  we're still a little salty. Yes, I miss those days.
• 44:26
  That was a good place at 2018 ironically our first year of
• 44:30
  doing this that was that was peak for that I know that I mean
• 44:33
  that is it's it's. Embarrassing ever since. 2021, a
• 44:39
  little bit of that, you know, the wild card game you and I
• 44:41
  went to and the playoff run, a little bit of that.
• 44:44
  But we need, we need 2018 back. Kind of wrapping things up here
• 44:50
  before we get into the Ricky Henderson segment.
• 44:56
  Dusty Baker returning to the Giants as a special assistant,
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  so this will be his third stint with the team.
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  As many of you know, he he managed for 26 years.
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  He managed the Giant specifically from 9093 to 2002
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  and then came back as an advisor, I believe in 18 and 19.
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  So as I said, this would be a third cent with a team.
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  I'm all about it, man. I'm glad.
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  I'm glad Dusty's sticking around.
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  I guess I don't know what this advisor role means anymore.
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  Every team does it. It's like APR stunt.
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  Show me some proof in the pudding that like you're like
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  they're involved in a specific project.
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  Show me how they're helping. Otherwise, this is just clicks.
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  I'm over it. I'm over a team saying we signed
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  this guy as a special assistant. I don't know what that means.
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  Unless you're an assistant GM diet.
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  Don't want to hear about you hiring an assistant.
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  Anything. You're not important.
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  So love you, Dusty. Welcome back.
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  I guess I you were gone for 5 minutes.
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  Hope you enjoyed retirement. I don't.
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  I don't know what any of this means, but the Giants still
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  suck. So you want RAW.
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  There's RAW. I'm all about it.
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  Additionally, Sean Doolittle hired just kind of closing Sean.
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  Sean Doolittle, hired by the Nationals as a pitching
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  strategist. Copy and paste my last
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  statement, I don't know what. Control C, Control B, you know,
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  you know, I mean, you talk about clicks and I'm not saying he's
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  not going to have any impact on the team, but the Nationals very
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  well know how much that fan base loves Sean Doolittle and for
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  good reason. He's that he's like a part of
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  that culture, man. He's he's all about it in DC
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  they love. Him.
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  He is entirely, entirely irrelevant to any other fan
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  base. This news means nothing to me.
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  If you're a Nats fan, I hope you.
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  They love it, dude. They're eating it up and, and
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  that's what I'm saying, these cliques, they're the.
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  The only positive thing I can say, the only cool thing I can
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  say about this is former players recently removed from playing
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  being included in Front Office Analytical slash.
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  Hey dude, like, let's ease up on the analytics and let me talk to
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  you about actual stuff. Like, what goes into it?
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  But let me ask you this, wouldn't.
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  I mean, I know just about as much as you do probably in this
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  regard, but wouldn't you say a pitching strategist would be in
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  the pen on game days as opposed to a front office role?
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  You think? Yeah, maybe he's like shadowing
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  the pitching coach or something like that, right?
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  Bullpen codes I or the. Bullpen codes.
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  Yeah, I doubt it. Strategist I think to me is
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  probably more in like the player development side of things.
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  You think? OK, yeah.
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  Well, then you're right, man. I mean, maybe.
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  And that's cool. Like, I'm not.
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  I'm not hitting on that. Yeah, you want proof in the
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  pudding of a project. I mean, I I think there's a very
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  Direct Line of communication from him to the people up in the
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  box of saying like, hey, like you said, let's dial it back on
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  this, let's crank it up on this. Yeah, I am.
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  I will say I am a sucker for players that had longevity in
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  the league but weren't necessarily superstars when they
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  get, when they give back to the game in some way.
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  I'm a sucker for that. Because they those are the guys
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  that had to grind to stick around.
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  They know the game up, down, left, right, inside and out.
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  These superstars. Not saying they don't know the
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  game, but if it comes that easily, if it comes that
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  naturally. And they can't teach it.
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  Yeah, not to say you didn't put in the work to get there, but if
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  it if it comes to you easily and naturally you, you maybe don't
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  have the same level of appreciation for the grind as a
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  guy like Sean Doolittle. Yeah.
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  I'm all, I'm 1000% on board with you on that, that.
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  I'm a huge fan of that. Outside of that national suck?
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  Raw. Future, future, Future could be
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  bright. Got to, got to make some, got to
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  make some moves there. Kendall Graveman last Last note
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  for closing the book here will miss the IT was announced this
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  week that he will miss the 2024 season after having shoulder
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  surgery and I think that I read the report that said it's not
• 50:09
  necessarily impacting the Astros approach to relief pitching with
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  the free agent market and or trades.
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  Nor should it. Kendall Grieman gets no one
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  fired up. Is that OK?
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  Yeah, good year or two. But like, I don't think it's
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  anything to bank on. Did we, like, see news on this?
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  Did it happen during like, a bullpen?
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  Why are we hearing about guys getting surgeries this this late
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  in the offseason? Like, figure this out in in
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  November? Yeah, you know what I mean?
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  Like, save yourself at least two or three months and have the
• 50:53
  hope that if your team's in good shape, you can come back for
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  September. Sure.
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  It's just weird. I got I it's happening more and
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  more often. I think too, just random
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  surgeries coming at random times.
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  So unless it's like a hey, I was just throwing a pen for my first
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  time back after six weeks off and now I tore something like
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  that you get, you know, no control over.
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  But yeah, I don't know, get your surgeries done sooner.
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  Or just recover from them in like 60 days like Harper did,
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  and perfect. All will be good, all right.
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  Here it is. That's what you've been waiting
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  for. I'm so amped for this dude.
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  So many Nuggets on Ricky Henderson's career stolen bases
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  record. It's insane.
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  All right. So for those ten piece or 20
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  piece? What's that?
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  You said Nuggets. I mean Nuggets. 0202220 pieces
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  one for later. Ricky Henderson 1406 stolen
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  bases in his career. Now zoom out a little bit before
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  we deep dive into this little background on on his career.
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  For those who don't know and I'll be I'll be quite honest
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  with you, I don't think I appreciated Ricky Henderson's
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  career as much as I do. Now having looked at the numbers
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  and and and coming to the realization that he he is more
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  of a multi dimensional player then I think he gets credit for.
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  Because I think when you hear Ricky Henderson you think I mean
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  the guy's nickname was Man of Steel, like literal STEAL.
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  And you have to zoom out a little bit and go you know this
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  guy could, this guy could hit, this guy could hold his own at
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  the plate. But for his career, Hall of
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  Famer obviously MVP winner, 10 time All Star, two time World
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  Series champion, a Gold Glover and a three time Silver Slugger.
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  His career numbers he had a career WAR of 111.2.
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  He he accumulated 10,961 ABS, had 3055 hits, 297 homers.
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  He had a career average of 279, drove in 1115 runs, and as I
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  mentioned, stole 1406 bases for his career.
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  His MVP career. Looking specifically at the 1990
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  season, he had 65 stolen bases which led the American League.
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  He hit 325, had an OBP of 439, which led all of baseball, and
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  LED all of baseball with an OPS of 1.016 and had an OPS plus of
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  189. Yeah, I feel like people just
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  kind of like. They just gloss over.
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  They kind of think of like he's like a Billy Hamilton or
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  something. All you were built for was
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  speed, but like, Nah dude, exactly 5 tool.
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  So diving diving into this record, he finished the This is
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  insane. So I put out AI put out a post
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  the other day talking about the just looking at the perspective
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  of this record, he let me make sure I find it.
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  He spent more time of his career being the all time leader in
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  steels than not, which is in say.
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  It out loud one more time. He spent more time in his career
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  as the all time leader in steels than not.
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  So he broke the record and had that held.
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  That longer he played for more time.
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  What then? Are you kidding me?
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  Like, think about all like think of think of like the home run
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  records or winning, winning records.
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  Like a year you're put. You're pushing 40 to get to a
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  record for for something like that.
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  This guy, Ricky Henderson, finished his 1990 season, which
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  was his MVP season and was his 11th season at the Major League
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  level. He finished that year 22 steals
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  shy of Lou Brock's record of 938, and it took Lou Brock 19
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  seasons to do that. Ricky Henderson was too short
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  after his 11th year. That's different, dude.
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  I'm I'm sorry but I of of the records that we're doing and I I
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  know I say this every every new record that we breakdown but I'm
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  starting to think that this like nobody is touching this record
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  nobody. No.
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  And you want to know why if a player stole 50 bases a season
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  for 28 year, 28 years? And would still have more
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  steals. 50. Bags a season.
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  For 28 years, that mean, OK, let's put this in perspective.
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  Say you come up at at 20 and you're not exactly like the
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  fastest guy, but you're known for stealing bags.
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  If you stole 50 bags through your 40 year, you'd be 48 years
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  old and you'd still be short. That's insane.
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  It's. I don't understand.
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  Hard to digest. I don't understand.
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  Let's see some other Nuggets here.
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  Ricky Henderson, I pull. I don't remember the article
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  that I pulled this from, so forgive me for lacking credit
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  here, but it said Ricky Henderson nearly ran a marathon
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  in his career just stealing bases.
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  His 1406 deals at 90 feet between bases adds up to 126,540
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  feet, or 23.97 miles, just over too shy of a marathon.
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  Marathon is 20. What 20?
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  6.2 He ran, he stole 23.97 miles worth of bags.
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  You want some more Nuggets? I got more.
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  Nuggets. Ricky stole 100 bases three
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  times in his career. 119 eighty 130 and 82 and 108 and 83130 a
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  hundred. And 30 which by the.
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  Way is a single season steal record.
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  Ty Cobb in the modern era had set the record with 96 in 1915,
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  which was then broke in 1962 by Maury Willis with 104, which was
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  then broken by Lou Brock in 1974 with 118.
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  So Ricky Henderson's 130 steals in a season is the all time
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  record for a single season? No.
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  No, we're praising guys for 30. Like this guy could be a 4040
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  guy. Ricky Henderson did the 40 * 3
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  time, times three and then some 100.
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  And 30 bags in a season. It almost hit 300 home runs in
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  his. Career.
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  That's what I'm saying. Over 3000 hits.
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  It. Over 3000, hit 3000.
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  What? I say 55297 home runs.
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  So it wasn't. Just his.
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  His ability to run like Sure, that plays a massive role when
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  you're talking about all time career steals, but it was his
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  ability to get on base, whether it was the hit or his ability to
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  see pitches. He got a note here, only Barry
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  Bonds had more walks than Ricky Henderson in a big league
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  career. But Ricky Henderson has the most
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  all time unintentional walks. Obviously we know Barry's story,
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  intentionally walked with the bases loaded, yadda yadda yadda
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  got one of the most feared of his time.
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  But Ricky Henderson? Unintentional walks all time
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  leader. Maybe, dude.
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  I mean, may I don't. Know I'm going to say no.
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  I'm going to lean towards no. But like the the rule, I think.
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  I genuinely feel like these rule changes and like this MLBPA hope
• 59:53
  to get guys up younger mixed in with like really pushing
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  offensive numbers, making sure the game is getting to this
• 1:00:04
  point. You could see, you could see
• 1:00:07
  big. Records being broken. 1520 years
• 1:00:11
  down the road, I could see it. This one, I don't see.
• 1:00:16
  This one. I don't see this one.
• 1:00:21
  I really don't. So aside.
• 1:00:25
  From the fact that he stole obviously many bags during the
• 1:00:31
  the prime of his career, I think that something.
• 1:00:34
  That's lost on a lot of. People is how he his ability to
• 1:00:39
  steal bags like even at the very end of his career like he he.
• 1:00:45
  Stole. I think.
• 1:00:48
  It was it said the. Last time he stole at least 60
• 1:00:52
  bases, he was 39 years old after turning. 40 His next?
• 1:00:57
  3 Yearly stolen base totals were 3736 and 25.
• 1:01:02
  The only player ever with multiple 30 steal seasons at age
• 1:01:05
  40 or older. Wow.
• 1:01:08
  Which, by the way, I looked at his age 40 season with the Mets.
• 1:01:12
  Played 121 games, hit 315, had 37 bags, OPS of 889 and an OPS
• 1:01:21
  plus of 128 at age 40. Dude just did not fizzle.
• 1:01:25
  At all. Unless the bags get moved to to.
• 1:01:33
  55 feet? I don't see it happening even
• 1:01:36
  then. Dude, this.
• 1:01:36
  Is like the score the all. Time scoring title like pre and
• 1:01:40
  posts 3 point line. You know what I mean?
• 1:01:43
  That's how we're going to view these rule changes.
• 1:01:45
  Sure. Yeah.
• 1:01:46
  It's going to be like, what were these?
• 1:01:47
  What were these records before rules were implemented to help?
• 1:01:55
  You ain't touching this. Nobody's touching this.
• 1:02:00
  That's. That's what I'm saying that.
• 1:02:06
  I mean, I think all of the records that we're diving into
• 1:02:08
  this offseason are unbreakable, but I mean, this one's got to be
• 1:02:11
  up there. Yeah, we.
• 1:02:13
  I think at the end we. Should we need?
• 1:02:15
  To do like our own ranking. Our own power ranking, possibly.
• 1:02:18
  I like that of. Degree of unbreakable because.
• 1:02:22
  I like that 20. What did I say?
• 1:02:24
  28. Years of 50 bags and you're
• 1:02:27
  still not touching them. Insane.
• 1:02:30
  Insane. May happen.
• 1:02:33
  Well, that's. All I got wanted to just do like
• 1:02:34
  I said, a little. Little deep dive into that.
• 1:02:36
  I hope you enjoyed it. Is there anything I missed?
• 1:02:39
  I think that's about it. That's about it.
• 1:02:42
  We're getting there. Dude, it's slowly easing back
• 1:02:47
  into stuff happening. I can feel it.
• 1:02:50
  I can feel like a once a week signing.
• 1:02:56
  Happening right now. Stuff needs to get going, dude.
• 1:02:59
  Like, it's we're more than halfway through January, like
• 1:03:03
  time to make some moves. Certain teams like, there's
• 1:03:07
  still a lot of names out there, still a lot of stuff going on,
• 1:03:10
  like, let's, let's go. We got to start having
• 1:03:12
  conversations about fantasy baseball games soon.
• 1:03:15
  We absolutely do. I mean, we're.
• 1:03:17
  Under a month until pitchers and catchers report.
• 1:03:20
  So these teams need to need to give their their new
• 1:03:23
  acquisitions a chance to get comfy, get set up, get settled
• 1:03:26
  in with their new digs. So let's let's get it going.
• 1:03:29
  Let's let's make these moves happen and let's get to some
• 1:03:32
  baseball. Yeah, I like.
• 1:03:35
  It good stuff, old chap. I'm all done.
• 1:03:39
  Don't go chasing curveballs. Love you all.
• 1:03:41
  And as always, looking forward to talking more baseball with
• 1:03:43
  you guys. Soon until next time, stay
• 1:03:45
  filthy.