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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 5/23/24 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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Hello Jeffrey, good morning, follow Uh. I have questions, Jeff,
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because we have a trial of press conferences today, starting with the Abs at
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nine thirty, the Nuggets eleven thirty, and the Broncos at twelve thirty.
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Today. Regarding the Broncos, I know this is going to be a lot
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about bo Nicks, But do you think in their head? Because I know
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what Peyton's gonna say. He's gonna say, hey, it's an open competition.
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May the best man win at quarterback? Do they know who they're starting
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already? You know, I'd say they don't know. But I think the
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data we don't have is is this really going to be a fair fight?
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You know, is it really gonna be a competition, because you can,
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you know, you could sort of keep up if it's not. If it's
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not, and I'm not saying they're doing that, but if it's not,
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it's pretty easy to hide right now, because the drills are pretty innocuous.
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Uh, there's really no parameters. I mean, the mandatory mini camp in
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June, you could tell some things if they were leaning a certain way,
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So that may the first clue if this is indeed a real, real life
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competition. So we don't know that yet. I think it will be at
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least early on in training camp. You know how soon they will take it
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out of competition mode. We don't know that either. But the other fact
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we don't have is nobody, even people who've coached with him, have seen
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Sean Payton do this as a head coach, actually have a quarterback competition.
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So we really don't know how he's gonna do it what his patience level is
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gonna be with it all? And you know that part of it we have
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to see too. Well. If I'm Sean Payton, I'm looking at both
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quarterbacks and I get it. Zach Wilson has had NFL snaps under his belt,
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but he's the same age as bo Nicks. You went and got bon
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Nicks with number twelve. Why wouldn't you play bon Nicks? That's me But
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I need to ask you, LEGI this OTA activity? What does that stand
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for? I always forget organized team activities? That's what it is. Activities.
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We're having o RA right now. We're gonna, yes, yes we
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are, so the the veterans are not required to be there, but it's
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understood they should. Is that the apt way to put it. It's always
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been, you know, since the last two cbas last two or three CBA
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is the only mandatory saying, which in NFL terms means the only thing players
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can be fined for missing is the mandatory mini camp, and teams usually have
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two or three day mandatory mini camp in June. That's usually the last thing
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of the off season program. So Courtland Sutton, would you be surprised if
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he doesn't show today. No, I would not be surprised if he's not
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there. I wouldn't expect him uh to be to be. He hasn't attended
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yet to my knowledge, so I don't think he's going to change that.
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You know, again, you see where things really are at. If a
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guy is willing to to miss mandatory mini camp and get fine. Now fine
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isn't huge. It's not like the regular season, but it's still a check.
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They don't like writing. So if you're Sean Payton, you're banking on
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this kid come in and play quarterback. He is your prize. You want
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him working with the receivers as fast as possible, get that chemistry that's so
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important on game day. And your top receiver is not there and he hasn't
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been there, what is he thinking? Yeah, I know, you know,
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I'd love for him to be there that, you know, if they
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want everybody there doing what you're saying, getting ready. But that's what I
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mean. If this is really a quarterback competition, it's not that big a
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deal in terms of timing because in theory everyone is is going to get reps,
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you know, all three guys, So in theory, not as big
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a deal. If it's really a competition. If it's not, then yeah,
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you would like if you've quietly decided you want Nix to be the guy,
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then yeah, you would like him working with as many people as possible.
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But that's also also the disadvantage in some ways of the whole rookie quarterback
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saying, because you know, Peyton Manning in his time here would have had
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the receiver's head and him have already gathered before the offseason program starts, so
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they don't have that going either this time of year. Let me ask you
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about another receiver. Is it fair to have any expectation this year for Tim
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Patrick after being out the last two years? Yeah, I'm gonna be That's
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a guy I sort of want to keep an eye on in June and then
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in training camp because just to see whies act because missing two years is this
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significant, and you know there there isn't a lot of extensive sort of research
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you can do about how guy looked after that. It hasn't happened that often
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to players, So yeah, I don't know. You know, they they
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keep saying he's looking good and that they expect him to be able to contribute
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and be the guy they wanted him to be, but the fact they kind
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of went and got a guy like him in the draft was intriguing to me
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and maybe sort of a insurance just in case he's not. I've heard a
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lot of this on talk radio, and a lot of it stems from our
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show. If you're gonna use a mid round draft pick on a running back
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like they did with Odric Estimate, does it mean that Javanti Williams is suddenly
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in trouble. I don't know that he's in trouble, Vic, but you
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know they they didn't take Estimate because you know, he was one of those
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guys where teams are looking at that point in the draft and they look up
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at the board and they got a guy that's graded way above the spot,
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and he was that guy for them. So and I fully expect him to
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be in the mix. I think in trouble for Carries. I don't know
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that his roster spot Gotcha would be in trouble yet, but yeah, I
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think if you were here before, but Carrie's estimate is gonna get and I
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think he's gonna get. Them are coming from somewhere, and they're coming from
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the guys who are already here, he's seen him. Hey, power ranking
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the most intimidating players on the Broncos is estimate already vaulted to number one.
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I can't believe what that guy looks like. Yeah, No, he's he's
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he's got the proverbial NFL body as the Scouts series NFL body body builds body
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of the rookie class. You know I said it on our airs. Uh,
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you know that's the guy who you know, bo Nicks was going to
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get all the attention, but the rookie who might play your quickness right out
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of the day estimate? Well, all, I think Allas can play pretty
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fast too. Jonahllwis, Yeah, that injury to Drew Sanders that came out
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of the blue. Did they hesitate to make that announcement because they'd hoped it
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wasn't as intense as it was? They he tore the achilles. Maybe they
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were hoping it was a partial tear. No, they just don't like talking
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about it. Payton, he breaks out in hives. Jeffery, Just from
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a reporter standpoint, what purpose does that serve to wait to release that news?
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What? What? What's the big deal? Why wouldn't you an april?
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Yeah? What? What? What do you gain a lot of It's
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a control issue, you know, keeping things in house. And they've also
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had some changes on their medical staff too, so I don't you know behind
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the scenes, so, uh you know, there may be some of that
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at work too. I don't want to speak for Peyton. This will be
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the first time he publicly will acknowledge or made it knowledg in some way Drew
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Sanders. But uh, you know, so I don't know the exact day
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was injured. I do know eight days before the draft they were still talking
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like he was in the mix. So that's your timetable, right, there
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is eight days between saying Drew Sanders was in the mix and selecting Jonah allis
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in the draft. That's your timetable of the injury. Well, I know
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that it's like we didn't see a lot of Drew Sanders. And forgive my
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ignorance, LEGI I don't know what position he was going to play. They
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started an inside linebacker. Then it's sounded like they might move him outside that
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sort of edge spot. But he was a sixty seventh overall pick, Like
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this isn't some small loss, Like that's a player that they invested a lot
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into and we aren't going to see him play essentially until his thirty year in
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the league. Yeah. No, it's a tough and you know, usually
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there, you know, achilles are sort of a weird impact or changing direction
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injuries, so it is you don't see him very often this time of year
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either. So, uh, but I don't know that they had officially decided
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where he's going to be. You know, I know that you know,
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Josie Jewell left in free agency, and that's a pretty significant little gap in
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the defense, and I think they were thinking maybe he fills some of that
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on early downs and then and then moves to an edge roll when they go
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to the nickel type thing, and I think they were tinkering with that idea.
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And this this really impacts that now because they're going to have to probably
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have guys in very specific roles now instead of a hybrid player like him.
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Which of the rookies that didn't play much last year, and then Marvin Mims
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of his mind, obviously, which one is going to get more playing time
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this year, like actually carve out a role. Well, I thought Sanders
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would be that guy. I mean, he didn't get he didn't get very
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many snaps, but it better be mims or you know, they've got some
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some gaps in the offense that if it's not. And I just think we
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didn't see much of the rookies at all last year, and that as they
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move out of this transition period or at least as they try to get back
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in the playoff mix. Uh you know this this time of playing rookies two
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hundred snaps in their rookie year or not at all, like you know,
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uh, but you know, Riley Moss comes to mind. I think Riley
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Moss at least there's a chance to go from a just a smattering of snaps
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to really being in the mix. But they're gonna have to get over the
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whole not playing young player things because they won't they won't dig out of this
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unless they invest in the in their own young players to do it. Definitely
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from ESPN dot com. So I was reading this article on PFF yesterday and
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they said the top three players for every NFL team, and I think the
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Broncos top three they got right, which was Patrick's or tan Quinn minors in
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Courtland Sutton. The issue I had, like you, was if I had
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to make a top five who the hell is that? Like, who are
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the two guys after? Yeah, I mean production wise, you know,
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Singleton's got to be in there. Uh, production wise, But you know,
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again that's the old I don't I don't think talent evaluators see Alex Singletons
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as this tremendously explosive, impactful player. But you know, all the guy
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does is put up one hundred and twenty tackles every year. So I think
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keeping in that mix, you know, I think, you know, in
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theory, you know, potentially I see Mims in there at some point.
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But but you know, I was, I was a big fan before they
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drafted him. So they're at that. That's really where they're at when you
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turn to other pro personnel people around the league, that this isn't a you
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know, the the exceedingly talented roster. Even in free agency they didn't really
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they couldn't afford to because of the Russell Wilson decision. But they went out
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and signed guys for very specific jobs. It wasn't like we're going to get
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this explosive, talented player to move the needle on the roster. It's we
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need a guy to fill this job type of thing. So that Uh,
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they really do that. They aren't at a talent deficit, uh compared to
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some of the you know, the upper tier of the league. And you
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know, until they close that gap a little more. And to me,
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you know, you don't keep their can you don't get this long term deal
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done, you know, or at least convince him things are going to get
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better. Uh you know that that takes us, you know, take him
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off this roster. And what's the overall talent level at I think that's they're
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at a deficiency and then you know they've they've got to keep grinding to fix
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it. Last thing for you, Lego hes appreciate the time was reading an
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article about the chain gang. How that might be a thing of the past.
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What's your read on this? And how does this work? So they
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have the chip in the ball or whatever, But how do they know when
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somebody's down? Yeah, I mean they're not going to like be able to
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do away with officials forever, you know type of thing. But the spotting
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of the ball with the chip and the ball, I mean, you can
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tell when the guys goes down, you know, the distance the ball went
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and all that. But the fact they haven't done this sooner has been one
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of the great mysteries of life in the NFL. But there's always the competition
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Committee. There's always been a lot of pushback and into moving away from the
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change. You know. I thought for sure when they use the note card
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one time to to do the difference of the ball, that that that would
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be the ultimate movement, that they finally would move to the modern era.
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But they did not. So uh, I do know some people in the
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league are really hoping this happened at some point, because it really would.
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I mean, in a lot of tennis tournaments, they it's all electronic,
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you know, to judge the lines now, and you know, players don't
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even argue anymore. It's just you know, it's just part of the deal.
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So I think it's gonna happen, you know, will happen this year.
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Uh. I'm always skeptical until I actually see him sort of crest the
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hill and move on into the future. But honest, legg is part of
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you going to miss that little two seconds of tension as they extend the chain
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to see if the ball actually got there or not. Oh yeah, no,
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that's always been a big part of it. My favorite, My favorite
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is so random around the goal. I know, yeah, yeah, right.
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It this far My favorite though. What the chain gang is when the
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chain is crimped, Oh yeah, you know, and they gotta uncrimp it,
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like oh, there's a couple more inches in the sucker, or they
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the guys jumped the gun and they figure it's the first down and they moved
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the chain down the line and they have to go get them. I have
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to go get them to come back. If I just showed somebody a video
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and they've never watched football before, and I showed them the video of them
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extending the chain for a first down, and I told them, this is
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a multi billion dollar corporation. What do you think they they'd say, I
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mean, like, that's ridiculous. Yeah, you can watch a game for
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the International Space Station. But yeah, I worked the chain way back.
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It's so high school games, you know. So I've got the I've got
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the chain experience back in the day. And look at you, and you're
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you're railing against your own profession. How dare you? Leggy Well? Some
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would say sports writers are the change of the media world. Jeff LANGWELLDESPN dot
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com. Always appreciate the time, like you, thank you, buddy.
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Thanks so we'll se