Latest / Takin’ A Walk Nashville / Kevin Jonas Sr. Discusses Nashville’s Evolving Music Landscape, Jonas Brothers Legacy and His Passion for Developing Emerging Artists
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashville. Hi everyone, it's Sarah Harrelson, your
- 0:05Speaker 1: host of Taken a Walk Nashville, and today I have
- 0:08Speaker 1: a very special guest with me. It's Kevin Jonas Senior,
- 0:13Speaker 1: also known as Papa Jonas and the father of the
- 0:15Speaker 1: Jonas Brothers. Kevin is a music executive, entrepreneur and songwriter
- 0:21Speaker 1: that came from humble beginnings in Belmont, North Carolina, and
- 0:25Speaker 1: he is now the visionary behind Worldwide Superstars. His new single,
- 0:31Speaker 1: Key of You was released on March thirteenth, and he
- 0:35Speaker 1: is here today with me on Taking a Walk Nashville.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Welcome to Taking a Walk Nashville with your hosts singer
- 0:46Speaker 1: songwriter Sarah Harrelson. Kevin, thank you so much for being
- 0:49Speaker 1: on Taking a Walk Nashville today. So you grew up
- 0:54Speaker 1: in a small textile mill town near Charlotte, North Carolina,
- 0:59Speaker 1: and you grew up with a passion for music, and
- 1:02Speaker 1: you recognize this talent in your own sons at a
- 1:05Speaker 1: young age, and you say that you would drive them
- 1:08Speaker 1: to their shows in a red van. Were a lot
- 1:11Speaker 1: of these trips taken to Nashville when you were in
- 1:15Speaker 1: North Carolina orre was La. Kind of the starting point there.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Well, actually I started in North Carolina, and you know,
- 1:24Speaker 2: mostly in church circles. I sang around church and my
- 1:28Speaker 2: mom would take me to churches play for me, and
- 1:31Speaker 2: I would sing or minister in those churches, and then
- 1:38Speaker 2: I ended up getting involved in like worship ministry in churches,
- 1:44Speaker 2: so my kids really grew up seeing me singing. And
- 1:51Speaker 2: then we took an opportunity in New Jersey, right across
- 1:56Speaker 2: from New York, and the boys started working on Broadway.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Both Joe and Nick had Broadway shows and off Broadway shows.
- 2:05Speaker 2: I think Nick by the time he was ten had
- 2:07Speaker 2: like four Broadway shows, so we were definitely sewing into
- 2:10Speaker 2: their talent writing songs with them. Then Nick at eleven
- 2:16Speaker 2: signed a solo deal that became the Jonas Brothers, and
- 2:19Speaker 2: the rest kind of was history. So the Tide to
- 2:23Speaker 2: Nashville really points back to when I was pursuing my
- 2:27Speaker 2: music early in my life eighteen to twenty five, and
- 2:31Speaker 2: I would go up and down music row and knock
- 2:33Speaker 2: on every door. Some doors open, not many, and there
- 2:39Speaker 2: were some really kind people who took this kid in
- 2:42Speaker 2: and some tried to get me to write better songs,
- 2:45Speaker 2: and some inspired me, and some gave me great business advice.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Can't can't thank them enough for all that they gave
- 2:56Speaker 2: me and inspired me with. And actually I started in
- 3:00Speaker 2: North Carolina in church music, but also in country music.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talk about how you started in church
- 3:06Speaker 1: music and Christian music, and you also co wrote I
- 3:09Speaker 1: Still Have the Dream with Michael W. Smith and you
- 3:13Speaker 1: pen the global worship anthem to be Glory, which has
- 3:16Speaker 1: a mass more than half a billion streams worldwide. So
- 3:20Speaker 1: at this point in your career, were you trying to
- 3:23Speaker 1: make it as an artist yourself or were you finding
- 3:26Speaker 1: joy and writing music for others and developing other artists.
- 3:31Speaker 2: That's a great question. I was pursuing life as an artist.
- 3:37Speaker 2: That movie Mister Hollins Opus where he stops at a
- 3:40Speaker 2: high school on his way to his dream. I feel
- 3:42Speaker 2: like I have had a lot of that in my life,
- 3:45Speaker 2: and then I look back in those are the great moments.
- 3:48Speaker 2: I loved developing talent, and I was always doing it.
- 3:52Speaker 2: So if I were in churches or traveling the world
- 3:55Speaker 2: with worship music, it led me to people that in
- 4:00Speaker 2: inspired me more than I inspired them. And some of
- 4:03Speaker 2: my students went on to do incredible things. And the
- 4:05Speaker 2: reason that song to him, be Glory really took off.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Was a student of mine translated it into Portuguese and
- 4:13Speaker 2: she and a protege of hers both recorded and it
- 4:16Speaker 2: just blew up. And so again, Lifefe has been very,
- 4:22Speaker 2: very good to us. But I get probably my greatest
- 4:28Speaker 2: joy out of seeing people leave their dream And that
- 4:32Speaker 2: might sound cliche, but it's so true. I love watching
- 4:36Speaker 2: the artists you've worked with standing on a stage and
- 4:41Speaker 2: doing it something they've dreamed of their entire life. I
- 4:46Speaker 2: get incredible satisfaction out of that. And when my sons
- 4:49Speaker 2: are on stage, I just turn around in circles and
- 4:53Speaker 2: I'm just watching them, and I'm watching the crowd and
- 4:55Speaker 2: watching them, and I'm watching the crowd, usually with tears
- 4:59Speaker 2: rolling down my just so thankful for that connection that
- 5:02Speaker 2: happens when an artist and their followers and fans and
- 5:07Speaker 2: fan family are really tied to them passionately. So so
- 5:14Speaker 2: many things to be grateful for, but probably living that
- 5:17Speaker 2: with a good number of artists is my highlight.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Yeah, that's beautiful. And you've written a lot of songs
- 5:24Speaker 1: with your sons and for your sons, and you're getting
- 5:27Speaker 1: back into your own artistry as well. You just released
- 5:30Speaker 1: a new single, Key of You. It's a beautiful love
- 5:34Speaker 1: song to your wife Denise, written by Marcus Hammon. I
- 5:38Speaker 1: loved listening to this. There's no question that singing runs
- 5:42Speaker 1: in your family. Loved listening to your vocals on this song.
- 5:46Speaker 1: What does it mean for you to be able to
- 5:48Speaker 1: put this music out as an artist?
- 5:52Speaker 2: Well, I would venture to say I really don't have
- 5:57Speaker 2: a desire. I'm not pursued doing life as an artist.
- 6:02Speaker 2: As I said, I have plenty to do with the
- 6:05Speaker 2: Jonas Group and the various things that I have on
- 6:09Speaker 2: my plate. But music is breathing to me. It was
- 6:14Speaker 2: my entire life and is my entire life, whether I'm
- 6:17Speaker 2: singing it, writing it, or helping other people do things
- 6:21Speaker 2: and perform it. So I don't feel like I'm doing
- 6:25Speaker 2: it because like I released a Christmas album, but my
- 6:29Speaker 2: wife had asked me to do that thirty five years ago,
- 6:32Speaker 2: so it was somewhat for that. And it is our
- 6:34Speaker 2: fortieth anniversary, and I'm just very thankful for her and
- 6:41Speaker 2: all that we've gone through through the years. And the
- 6:44Speaker 2: song just paints a wonderful picture of I think love
- 6:49Speaker 2: in general. But there's so many moments in the song
- 6:52Speaker 2: that are very uniquely things that I hold dear, like
- 6:57Speaker 2: you know, watching my wife just even when she sleeps,
- 7:00Speaker 2: she's beautiful and peaceful.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Yeah, that's precious and such a wonderful anniversary gift. So
- 7:08Speaker 1: in addition to being a songwriter and an artist, you're
- 7:11Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. You found a Jonas Group Entertainment in two
- 7:15Speaker 1: thousand and five and established headquarters here in Nashville in
- 7:19Speaker 1: twenty twenty three along with Red Van Records, referencing that
- 7:24Speaker 1: Red Van used to drive your sons around into gigs.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Why did you want to plant your roots in Nashville specifically,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and do you think currently it's important for artists to
- 7:37Speaker 1: be in Nashville who want to make a career in music.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I do you know? My kids were in pop music.
- 7:46Speaker 2: I raised them on a ton of country in Christian music.
- 7:50Speaker 2: The reason I chose Nashville is that two of the
- 7:55Speaker 2: main music styles and genres that I loved and was
- 7:59Speaker 2: raised and Christian and country both really have their headquarters there.
- 8:05Speaker 2: And it was a place that I learned to love
- 8:07Speaker 2: songwriting and was inspired by real songwriters and the songwriting
- 8:12Speaker 2: community and the songwriter rounds, and it just felt like
- 8:17Speaker 2: the right home, lived a lot of life in New York,
- 8:20Speaker 2: a lot of life in LA, and done a lot
- 8:23Speaker 2: of things with artists and our entertainment company. But the
- 8:25Speaker 2: reality is the spirit that I sense in Nashville really
- 8:30Speaker 2: is the reason I love it so much.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's great. You know, you see a
- 8:35Speaker 1: lot of artists and entertainers moving from LA to Nashville
- 8:39Speaker 1: now to pursue music. But also Nashville is just so
- 8:44Speaker 1: great for community, I think, not only in country music
- 8:47Speaker 1: but in music in general.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, it's it was very specifically Christian and country
- 8:55Speaker 2: when I first started going. Yeah, now it's all music,
- 8:59Speaker 2: and they're there's such a variety. There's such a great
- 9:03Speaker 2: cross section of pop and pop, rock and R and
- 9:07Speaker 2: B and legacy, And I think it has become a
- 9:13Speaker 2: better music center than even New York in LA because
- 9:18Speaker 2: it really does provide a nurturing ground for a lot
- 9:22Speaker 2: of talent and has embraced things beyond the earlier I
- 9:27Speaker 2: won't say limitations, but limited genre. So I'm very thankful
- 9:32Speaker 2: in our group. Yes, we have a ton of country
- 9:35Speaker 2: and country writers, but we have a rock producer, we
- 9:39Speaker 2: have a pop rock band, we have a Joni Mitchell
- 9:44Speaker 2: esque artist. I mean you could just go through. We
- 9:47Speaker 2: have an Americana artist and in my son Franklin that
- 9:51Speaker 2: we're connected with, you know, and we're releasing songs in
- 9:55Speaker 2: week after week. It's Luke Bryan, or it's Earnest, or
- 9:59Speaker 2: it's but Then pop or pop rock. So that variety
- 10:04Speaker 2: inspires me. I don't fit into walls very well.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. You definitely have your hands and
- 10:11Speaker 1: all genres, and you've played a pivotal role in guiding
- 10:15Speaker 1: and developing artists, pop artists such as Demi Lovado, Jordan Sparks,
- 10:22Speaker 1: K Pop Sensation, the Wonder Girls. So being in the
- 10:26Speaker 1: music industry and young Disney Channel star, especially at a
- 10:31Speaker 1: young age for a teen, can be so hard to handle.
- 10:34Speaker 1: So what has been your approach when working with and
- 10:38Speaker 1: developing young artists. What is the advice you give them
- 10:43Speaker 1: when they face so much pressure in the spotlight at
- 10:47Speaker 1: a young age.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel really bad for a lot of the
- 10:55Speaker 2: young talent coming up, and no one can prepare you
- 11:00Speaker 2: for what happens, Like when Disney meets the right artist
- 11:05Speaker 2: and the right content, what that can be is unbelievable.
- 11:10Speaker 2: And you know, my sons came in. It was a
- 11:13Speaker 2: high school musical introduced Tanna Montana, who introduced the Jonas Brothers,
- 11:17Speaker 2: who introduced Demi Lovato, and it just it was wave
- 11:21Speaker 2: after wave after wave, and those children, and they many
- 11:24Speaker 2: of them were or teens, were thrust into a national
- 11:28Speaker 2: spotlight and everybody they dated was the cover of People magazine.
- 11:35Speaker 2: And so my yearbook was a small town. There's all
- 11:40Speaker 2: over the world, there's a lot of pressure. And I
- 11:44Speaker 2: had a motto that I learned from my grandfather that
- 11:47Speaker 2: I gave to my children. Live like you're at the bottom,
- 11:50Speaker 2: even if you're at the top. Just stay a good person.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Surround yourself with good people because there's a lot of
- 11:58Speaker 2: people that will take advantage of you in the world
- 12:00Speaker 2: like that and moments like that. And really appreciate your fans.
- 12:06Speaker 2: They sacrifice a lot to love you and to follow
- 12:10Speaker 2: you and to buy your product. But I think it's isolating.
- 12:16Speaker 2: So it's also very important that you maintain your mental health,
- 12:20Speaker 2: myself included. You know, to really work to make sure
- 12:25Speaker 2: that you're staying centered, because it can be just so
- 12:29Speaker 2: confusing and at times enticing, and if you're not careful,
- 12:36Speaker 2: can affect your attitude Probably the best thing I hear
- 12:40Speaker 2: is when people tell me that my sons, our sons
- 12:43Speaker 2: are really great young men. And I know that that's
- 12:46Speaker 2: a ton of choices and a lot of really good luck,
- 12:50Speaker 2: but I tried with all of those to be a
- 12:54Speaker 2: good example. I tell you this past summer, when Demi
- 12:59Speaker 2: joined the Boys back on stage after all that time, uh,
- 13:02Speaker 2: standing backstage greeting her, seeing her healthy, watching that explosion
- 13:10Speaker 2: of love for all of them, just unbelievable, unbelievable. One
- 13:15Speaker 2: of the highlights of my professional life was just being
- 13:18Speaker 2: able to be there for that historic moment and in
- 13:22Speaker 2: the world that they lived in. If you grew up
- 13:26Speaker 2: where camp Rock was in your world, that that was
- 13:29Speaker 2: a moment.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Yeah, that was definitely part of my world growing up.
- 13:34Speaker 1: You know, watching Disney Channel Gambrock and you know your
- 13:39Speaker 1: son's on Disney Channel. But you know, speaking to that point,
- 13:43Speaker 1: you know, like you said, you would see them on
- 13:45Speaker 1: the covers of People magazine. But now it's different for
- 13:49Speaker 1: teens in the music industry because they have to face
- 13:52Speaker 1: social media. They have the pressure second by second right
- 13:56Speaker 1: in front of them. So it's a whole different game now.
- 14:00Speaker 2: The whole world or paparazzi and any comment, whether true
- 14:05Speaker 2: or not, can run quickly, and your private life is
- 14:09Speaker 2: not private. It's tough, you know. I think my kids
- 14:13Speaker 2: grew up in it because MySpace was already active, but
- 14:18Speaker 2: it's just evolved and become so difficult and for some
- 14:23Speaker 2: artists in particular, really difficult to maintain your sanity, maintain
- 14:27Speaker 2: your emotional and mental health, knowing that anything you put
- 14:31Speaker 2: out people can criticize, and they will, and that somebody
- 14:34Speaker 2: sitting in their basement can start a fire that has
- 14:39Speaker 2: nothing to do with you or your conduct and mess
- 14:42Speaker 2: with your life. Those are tough things. And they're not
- 14:46Speaker 2: just tough for kids, they're tough for everybody.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so important. I think it's so important
- 14:53Speaker 1: to stay true to who you are as an artist
- 14:56Speaker 1: and push all of that, all of that noise aside.
- 15:00Speaker 1: But in addition to music, you own the restaurant Nelly's
- 15:04Speaker 1: Southern Kitchen located in Belmont, North Carolina and Las Vegas.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Will we see a location in Nashville for this restaurant
- 15:12Speaker 1: in the future.
- 15:13Speaker 2: You know, We've looked at some property all over Nashville,
- 15:20Speaker 2: and if we find the right thing, I think that
- 15:22Speaker 2: is in the cards. I think it ironically, there's not
- 15:27Speaker 2: a ton of Southern, like straight ahead Southern food. And
- 15:31Speaker 2: my grandmother, as you said it, worked in a textile
- 15:34Speaker 2: meal and grew up really in a North Carolina mill village.
- 15:39Speaker 2: And I tell people all the time, if you've seen
- 15:41Speaker 2: Hunger Games in District twelve, where the lead came from
- 15:45Speaker 2: and the poverty there it was filmed, that set is
- 15:49Speaker 2: a North Carolina cotton mill village. Oh wow, So not
- 15:54Speaker 2: far from where I grew up. And the kind of
- 15:56Speaker 2: environment my grandmother was a part of, and she worked
- 15:59Speaker 2: so hard and then we come home and make the
- 16:01Speaker 2: most amazing food. So Nellie's really is a tribute to
- 16:05Speaker 2: her and taking me in when I needed it, And
- 16:10Speaker 2: no matter where in the world I would go, I
- 16:13Speaker 2: would come home to her banana pudding and her chicken
- 16:16Speaker 2: and dumplings, and that made my life. When I think
- 16:21Speaker 2: of home, that's what I think of.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely great comfort food. If listeners are in those areas,
- 16:29Speaker 1: definitely check out Nellie's Southern Kitchen. So, Kevin, what are
- 16:33Speaker 1: you most looking forward to this year with the artist
- 16:37Speaker 1: you're working with at Join Us Group Entertainment.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Well, we work with Ray Lynn love her and that
- 16:44Speaker 2: girl is just a spitfire. She has our heart and
- 16:50Speaker 2: I think this could be a really great year for her.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Very exciting things coming. We have some We have a
- 16:58Speaker 2: young rock band, pop rock that I really feel like
- 17:02Speaker 2: could go. It always takes a lot of different factors.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I'm very excited for my youngest son, Franklin. The music
- 17:11Speaker 2: that he's working on right now is from his heart.
- 17:14Speaker 2: It's legit for him and it's that modern Americana and
- 17:19Speaker 2: it is lyrically amazing, painful at times, but really amazing.
- 17:24Speaker 2: And we have a young girl that is Kenny Loggins
- 17:29Speaker 2: if you know that name, famous in the seventies, eighties, Footloose,
- 17:36Speaker 2: all those theme songs, Caddyshack theme songs, but beyond a
- 17:40Speaker 2: danger zone. Kenny's stepdaughter Hunter Hawkins. It seems every room
- 17:47Speaker 2: we go in it's just like, Wow, this is special.
- 17:52Speaker 2: And really there's no music out yet of the new
- 17:55Speaker 2: group of songs that really do identify our amazing guitar player,
- 17:59Speaker 2: amazing vocalist, amazing songwriter. So I think we have a lot.
- 18:06Speaker 2: And then on the songwriting side, every week is just
- 18:08Speaker 2: a new release from our publishing company. Today is Luke
- 18:11Speaker 2: Bryan A couple of weeks ago was Pitbull and songs
- 18:16Speaker 2: that were written with our team pit Bull and Fillmore
- 18:21Speaker 2: and then Earnest and Snoop Dogg, And like, it's just
- 18:26Speaker 2: watching these songs that are being written in our basement
- 18:29Speaker 2: and the writing rooms and with the writers that we've
- 18:32Speaker 2: signed just lights me up as a guy that really
- 18:36Speaker 2: loves great songs. So fun to see what's happening there.
- 18:39Speaker 2: And we're about to have our first top ten and
- 18:43Speaker 2: you know that's we're new. So this is getting pretty
- 18:46Speaker 2: exciting because Nick my son wrote a song and Rascal
- 18:51Speaker 2: Flats and the Jonas Brothers sing it together called I
- 18:54Speaker 2: Dare You, and I believe it's about to make its
- 18:57Speaker 2: run to the top of the chart.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Yeah, that's on Rascal Flats new revamped albums from their
- 19:04Speaker 1: previous previous Hits album. So I really love that collaboration.
- 19:09Speaker 1: And you have so much music coming out this year
- 19:12Speaker 1: from Jonas group. Looking forward to that new music from
- 19:16Speaker 1: Franklin as well. Kevin, this is a question I always
- 19:22Speaker 1: like to ask my listeners on taking a walk in Nashville,
- 19:25Speaker 1: and you kind of mentioned it when you talked about
- 19:28Speaker 1: walking down Music Row back in the day. But do
- 19:31Speaker 1: you have a favorite place you like to take a
- 19:34Speaker 1: walk in Nashville.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Oh, there are two spots in the Nashville area. I
- 19:41Speaker 2: love I pace when I talk on the phone, So
- 19:46Speaker 2: I have done loops around Music Row for so many
- 19:49Speaker 2: years that that's like my walking path, and I'll go
- 19:53Speaker 2: with traffic. I rarely use the alleys and I just
- 19:57Speaker 2: talk on the phone and walk around. See the songwriters,
- 20:01Speaker 2: see the tourists, see all the music inspiration all around you.
- 20:06Speaker 2: I love, love, love that. And the other area I
- 20:09Speaker 2: really love is downtown Franklin. I just that that whole
- 20:13Speaker 2: area there. I don't know, there's something really We've stayed
- 20:18Speaker 2: there often and kind of fell in love with Franklin
- 20:22Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, it's a beauty, beautiful town. In the
- 20:25Speaker 2: downtown area is the one we've looked at as a
- 20:29Speaker 2: possible outlet for Nellie's, but I think we want to
- 20:32Speaker 2: be closer.
- 20:33Speaker 1: To the action. Yeah, definitely on Main Street. I could
- 20:36Speaker 1: see Nellie's being there in Franklin.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Nellie's would be a perfect fit for downtown Franklin.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hope to see it there. Yeah. Those
- 20:45Speaker 1: are definitely popular answers for taking a walk, and I
- 20:49Speaker 1: can only imagine when you walk on Music Row now
- 20:52Speaker 1: how much change is around you, because that's something we
- 20:56Speaker 1: talk about all the time on this podcast, is how
- 20:58Speaker 1: much Music Row has changed.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Well, my first trip to Nashville was thirty five, thirty
- 21:06Speaker 2: seven years ago, and it has completely changed, but and
- 21:11Speaker 2: it still has its identity. The music companies are still there.
- 21:14Speaker 2: But it was a publishing company and it was a
- 21:18Speaker 2: record company, and it was you know, an artist and
- 21:22Speaker 2: their efforts, and it was the home of a great songwriter.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Like it was just so eclectic and from one side
- 21:30Speaker 2: of the street to the other it would just bounce
- 21:32Speaker 2: with with the different elements of the music business all
- 21:36Speaker 2: condensed into this really tiny section of town, and I
- 21:40Speaker 2: just thought it was just heaven on earth.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, definitely a lot of change since then, but
- 21:47Speaker 1: there's also been a lot of good change. And we're
- 21:49Speaker 1: looking forward to upcoming releases from your artists this year
- 21:54Speaker 1: and listening to your new beautiful single, Key of You. Kevin.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for on taking a Walk
- 22:00Speaker 1: Nashville today.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Thank you honored to be with you. Thank you so much.
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