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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, October 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't like what Jack Warris? Did
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  Speaker 1: you go Jack Warres drive Time Driving Sex stextra John, Actually,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguarres Drive Time starts right now? What pisces me off? Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: the people that do know me know how much I
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  Speaker 1: respect the game, and I have a ton of respect
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  Speaker 1: for Coach Bowls and Mike mccagnet, one of my good friends.
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  Speaker 1: And whatever happened in the past of the past, it
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the people of the game itself.
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  Speaker 1: That's on the field. So for me, that's exactly what happened, right,
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  Speaker 1: wrong or different. And I would never do anything, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying like that. I just wouldn't because
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  Speaker 1: I respect the game too much, I said coach Doug
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  Speaker 1: Morone yesterday when asked about the whole I don't say controversy, Ashland.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that strong of a word. Drama, Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: little drama that surrounding his decision to go for two points.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll go about and record again hello as saying
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  Speaker 1: I don't had anything to do with the Jets job,
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  Speaker 1: And he just said it pisses him off that people
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  Speaker 1: think that if you know Doug like we've gotten to
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  Speaker 1: know him. And by the way, he wasn't easy to
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  Speaker 1: get to know. Two years he was the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: coach around here. He didn't talk to anybody. He grunted
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  Speaker 1: a little bit as he came around the corner when
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  Speaker 1: you say, hey, coach, what's going on? Um, So it's
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  Speaker 1: taken some time to get to know him. Um. He
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  Speaker 1: never makes it about himself. It's never about him. There
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  Speaker 1: have been coaches here in the past who have made
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  Speaker 1: it about them. Um, this is not about him. But
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  Speaker 1: I think people are completely entirely missing the point. They
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  Speaker 1: went for it be in my opinion, and Doug gave
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  Speaker 1: his his speel on this. Um would Jamal Adams body
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  Speaker 1: slammed after eleven times the whistle, blue body slam d
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  Speaker 1: d Westbrook. I heard the guys on the sideline. It
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  Speaker 1: was clear to me they were going for this eight.
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  Speaker 1: You can still play the sway so were we watch
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  Speaker 1: just go down on you know, and score on you
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  Speaker 1: right there. Um. To make it about dog, to make
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  Speaker 1: it about what you You didn't get the Jets job,
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  Speaker 1: as if the Jets job, and oh New York is
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Take it? Do you want it?
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  Speaker 1: And so long ago, like taking the job. Don't get
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  Speaker 1: me wrong, but it's happy. He doesn't want that job now.
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  Speaker 1: He's happy where he is right here, right And he
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  Speaker 1: said later on in that press conference, he said, if
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  Speaker 1: I had to do it all over again, I wish
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  Speaker 1: someone would have told me this would have come from it,
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  Speaker 1: because said it wasn't worth it. But to think it's
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  Speaker 1: about him, he never makes anything about him. I love everything.
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  Speaker 1: It's the opposite. I loved it. I would have understood
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  Speaker 1: if he had run the clock out. In fact, I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was where they were headed with this, because
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  Speaker 1: that's just dog. I mean, he just he doesn't do
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  Speaker 1: things like that. And yet when when Adam's body slammed him,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's whoa, what is he doing? We all saw the
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  Speaker 1: bench and the whistles. It just kept going, and he
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  Speaker 1: just kept moving. I thought he's gonna body slam him.
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  Speaker 1: It was like Turkey Jones, Bob, you have no idea
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  Speaker 1: who that is body slamming Terry Bradshaw back in the seventies.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing? And so at that
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  Speaker 1: point I was like, just go score well and and
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  Speaker 1: make your point. This is how we play. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to mess around like this, at the end
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  Speaker 1: of a ball game and put someone's health at risk,
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  Speaker 1: then this is what you get, right. And I was
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  Speaker 1: reading a bunch of quotes from the Jets locker room
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  Speaker 1: after the game, and all of them said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have to defend whatever they throw at us. If
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  Speaker 1: they want to go for two, we need to defend that.
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  Speaker 1: So it didn't really seem like the Jets locker room
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  Speaker 1: was that bothered by. It was the media that blew
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  Speaker 1: it so out of proportion. And one of the articles,
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  Speaker 1: the one that blew it all up, was from New
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  Speaker 1: York and they called coach my own class lists and
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  Speaker 1: all of this, and Eat and Rappaport of all people
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  Speaker 1: comment on the article and said, do you know coach
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  Speaker 1: Maroan personally? And the author goes no. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: how can you call a man class list that you
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  Speaker 1: don't even if you don't even know. I say one
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  Speaker 1: more thing on this, and that is Leonard Williams's a
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  Speaker 1: player that I have great admiration for. Terrific player, All
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  Speaker 1: Pro Pro Bowl defensive lineman. He said after the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm offended by that, that that hits me wrong. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll they go tell Jamal Adams. Hey, right, if you
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  Speaker 1: want the game play to the highest level of regard
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  Speaker 1: where you take the knee at the end that no
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  Speaker 1: body slammed the guy on the sideline and make a
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  Speaker 1: scene out of that, which is what he did. Go
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  Speaker 1: talk to Leonard. I'm sorry, Go talk to Jamal and
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  Speaker 1: squared up with him because the way that they were
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  Speaker 1: playing at the end of the ball game dictated, well,
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  Speaker 1: let us just show you the better team. There's has
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  Speaker 1: to be mutual respect. If you disrespect one team, you
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  Speaker 1: can't expect the same in return. I cackled. I loved
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  Speaker 1: it when when he went for two. It's good for
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  Speaker 1: stuff all right, time for big things. I wonder what's
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  Speaker 1: going to leave this one off. We took a break
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  Speaker 1: from it yesterday, but it is bad. That's too good
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  Speaker 1: to leave on the side of Leonard's late. We heard
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  Speaker 1: from coach Marion yesterday who said he has no idea
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  Speaker 1: when he will be back. It's the same same thing,
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  Speaker 1: the thing that's just pulling at it. It's legit. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there is something there and then we just got to
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  Speaker 1: do everything we can to get that out. You know
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  Speaker 1: that whatever that thing is, I feel like it catches
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't mean that's all I know. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the all the docs that talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to give you a layman's talk. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's just you know, hey, I just got this little thing.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like it catches, and it's not those enabled
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  Speaker 1: me to open up. I think we're all assuming that
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  Speaker 1: he will not play this week. The body language that
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  Speaker 1: you just saw from Doug there would suggest that he
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't play this week. But we don't know. I mean, truly,
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  Speaker 1: with this injury, you just can't tell. Rest is is
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  Speaker 1: reportedly Kevin Kaplan h j O y Jaguar's orthopedic doctor,
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  Speaker 1: uh said rest I said, really that's it. He said, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you'll do all the treatment, right, but it's really about rest. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how much rest do you need? He said, well, what's
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  Speaker 1: the you know, what's the hamstring look like? Right? And
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  Speaker 1: they know they look at the m R. I. They've
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  Speaker 1: got a plan in place. And I did ask Doug
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  Speaker 1: yesterday status quo. In other words, you're just gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: doing the same things. And he said status quo. And
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  Speaker 1: then he was asked to follow up. So you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna put him on short term. I are no, they're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna put him a short term I are down immediately.
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  Speaker 1: We really don't know. It would make sense to give
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  Speaker 1: him a couple of weeks and let it calm down.
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  Speaker 1: But what if, you know, what if he has a
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  Speaker 1: good week this week and is ready to go. And
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  Speaker 1: we've said this ad nauseum, but he could have a
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  Speaker 1: good week this week and go out and play against
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City. And don't you think after watching the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: run all over the Chiefs last night, he would love
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  Speaker 1: to play against Kansas City. Um, and he could play
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  Speaker 1: the whole game, and you just you, you just don't
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  Speaker 1: know what this thing. Or conversely, you could take him
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  Speaker 1: and say, all right, well, we're gonna shut him down
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  Speaker 1: through the bye week, which means he misses a key
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  Speaker 1: stretch with Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans and then the Eagles in London.
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  Speaker 1: But he gets, you know, five weeks, and you could
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  Speaker 1: say that although and then and then he's back in
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  Speaker 1: November against the Colts and he could be in the
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  Speaker 1: first quarter and thing, here it goes again. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: just almost you just it has to be a day
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  Speaker 1: to day thing, which drives everybody crazy. Is he's gonna play.
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  Speaker 1: Is he's not gonna play? With my kids football practice
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  Speaker 1: last night, I couldn't even I couldn't get anything done
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  Speaker 1: with the kids because I coach, because everybody was he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna play, He's how long is it gonna be out
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  Speaker 1: this time? Don't it's monday? Nobody anybody that tells you
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  Speaker 1: that they know or they've got an idea about how long.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. We just we don't know. It's clear though,
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  Speaker 1: when he's on the field, the defense is adjust the
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  Speaker 1: Jets did, and that just gave the crossing routes all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of room. Um, you'd love to have him this
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  Speaker 1: week against Kansas City because this Kansas City defense is
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  Speaker 1: not very stout. You saw that last night. You would
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  Speaker 1: think that a triple headed monster of twenty four and
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  Speaker 1: thirty would be more than they could handle, which would
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  Speaker 1: give Blake all sorts of time to hit the crossing
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  Speaker 1: routes against a pair of safeties that are not that stout.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that word a lot this week because
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're terrible, because not the colds, um,
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  Speaker 1: but they're thirty second right, um, so they're not all
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  Speaker 1: that great. You'd love to have Leonard this week. You might.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't seem likely, but you might, And if not, it's
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  Speaker 1: not the end of the world. We watched that defense
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  Speaker 1: last night. I think t J Yelden Corey Grant can
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  Speaker 1: perfectly handle it. I do think that, and run against them,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that a lot this week. I
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  Speaker 1: do think they can run against him. They run this
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  Speaker 1: forty three. Reggie Raglan is a pretty good player, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: thirty four with the two inside linebackers on stretch plays, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is is t J's game, not running
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  Speaker 1: between the tackles, although he's willing to do that. His
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  Speaker 1: best thing is his vision and he finds to see
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  Speaker 1: him and gets to the outside and then cuts it back. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think he could be very effective against Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: And and Corey Grant looked a little bit like Philip Lindsay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and Phillip Lindsay looked a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: Corey Grant, both undrafted guys, both guys with great speed
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  Speaker 1: and acceleration. I think the Dagon Wars should be able
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  Speaker 1: to win without Leonard for Nette. They'd be better with
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  Speaker 1: Leonard for Nette. Hold that thought. We'll see where that
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  Speaker 1: injury report is later in the week, and and again, um,
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  Speaker 1: game time decision would seem to be, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: call of the day. Yeah, I feel like that's going
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  Speaker 1: to be happening for weeks to come. Well. And if
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  Speaker 1: Doug was asked again yesterday status quo, in other words,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna put him on injured reserve and sit
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  Speaker 1: him down until December, And he said, right now, status quo.
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  Speaker 1: Things could change, but at this point they're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: keep going. Isn't going away? Fred Taylor on the field
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  Speaker 1: of the field, on the field, off the field. He
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  Speaker 1: came back just in time, uh to win a big
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  Speaker 1: game against the Broncos on Monday Night football here and
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  Speaker 1: then played through December and into the playoffs. Uh. And
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  Speaker 1: you got a hope if you were Doug Morone, that
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  Speaker 1: you've got him back full strength at some point this season,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely full strength, ready to go. All right. Big thing
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  Speaker 1: too is second quarter? What's next? And it is on
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  Speaker 1: the road. This is a tough, tough stretch of the
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  Speaker 1: second quarter. You have Kansas City, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia. The
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  Speaker 1: only home game is Houston. There you see it the dates.
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  Speaker 1: This team's stress is winning the quarter and this is
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  Speaker 1: a big one. Arrowhead is an extremely difficult place to
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  Speaker 1: play when the Chiefs are not that good, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the folks there and I wish there. I grew up
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  Speaker 1: in Kansas City, so I was there for a game
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  Speaker 1: in four which was long before you were born, the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season against the Jets. That's an eighty
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  Speaker 1: thousand seed Cavern Okay, And there were sixteen thousand people
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  Speaker 1: there that afternoon. So I've seen it bad. I watched
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  Speaker 1: them rebuild it in the early nineties with the Marty
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  Speaker 1: Schottenheimer and Carl Peterson and turned it into what it
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  Speaker 1: is today. They've got a great game presentation. The fans
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  Speaker 1: are into it. The whole chop thing um, the smoke
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  Speaker 1: from the barbecue. I mean, it seems like the stadiums
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  Speaker 1: on fire. Pregame be ready for that because so many
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  Speaker 1: people have their barbecues and their mobile grills and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff out there going. It's a great scene. It's
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  Speaker 1: a tough place to play, it's a fun place to play.
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  Speaker 1: Two years ago, the Jaguars weren't that good and they
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  Speaker 1: went in there, and if they don't turn the ball
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  Speaker 1: over four times, Chris Ivory ran all over them that day.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't turn it over four times, they probably
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  Speaker 1: win that ball game. Um, but they did turn it
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  Speaker 1: over four times and as a result came away with
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  Speaker 1: a close loss. Um. Jaguars can absolutely handle Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: the environment. In fact, you know, I said yesterday, I
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  Speaker 1: think this team is not a good front running team.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, they seemed to bore to me in
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  Speaker 1: the second half against the Jets. That alarmed me. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They need this kind of a challenge. They love the hostility. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The second the secondary in particular loves the hostility. I
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  Speaker 1: think they play better. I think they're sharper in these
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  Speaker 1: and so I expect them to come out with their aga.
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  Speaker 1: Besides the fact that they're facing the hottest quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: football right now, I think this defense loves the fact
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  Speaker 1: that everyone's looking to see if Mahomes can carve them up.
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  Speaker 1: They love the challenge in that environment with a four
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  Speaker 1: and no Chiefs team against the three and one Jaguars team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's perfect for the Jaguars to be the
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  Speaker 1: three and one team and go in there with a
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  Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder. It is set It is set
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  Speaker 1: up for them to go in there and pull the upset.
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  Speaker 1: There will be anything but boring, and they'd be mad
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  Speaker 1: that I said upset, Right, what do you mean upset?
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  Speaker 1: Where the Jags they're the chiefs uh their four no,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody around the league on the outside is looking
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  Speaker 1: at them and saying they're the favorite. Three point favorite. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they love that now, that's what they're saying.
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  Speaker 1: So it'll be it'll be fun. And then you go
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  Speaker 1: to Dallas. You don't know what you get there. That is,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, that's a scene on TV, but in
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  Speaker 1: the building, it's not a scene. It's not it's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've got the big board and they've got the dancers
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  Speaker 1: in the end zone and they put on a show.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not even close to Kansas City in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the fan passion and intensity, which seems anathetical to
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  Speaker 1: the argument because the Cowboys, you know, they've got so
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  Speaker 1: many fans, but they're spread out all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: The people who are in that stadium do not make
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  Speaker 1: it a hostile environment, not like it is in Kansas,
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  Speaker 1: not like it is in those other places. So and
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  Speaker 1: then you come home for the Texans and then London,
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  Speaker 1: which is a tremendous advantage for the Jaguars be their
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  Speaker 1: sixth straight year over there. They've won the last three
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  Speaker 1: against teams who have never made the trip, and this
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  Speaker 1: is the Eagles first trip to London. UM, so you
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  Speaker 1: gotta like where the Jaguars sit. It's a challenging quarter. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they're fairly healthy. Obviously you have the injury to for net.
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  Speaker 1: That is the question mark on this whole thing. But
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  Speaker 1: this is where make hey, this is where you set
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  Speaker 1: yourself up. Now, three and one in the stretch would
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  Speaker 1: be terrific. Six and two at to buy with eight
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  Speaker 1: games to go to push yourself towards the playoffs again
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  Speaker 1: this year. It sets up beautifully for this team. The
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  Speaker 1: second quarter is critical. It would be perfect to be
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  Speaker 1: six and two after this quarter. That would be just
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  Speaker 1: the perfect to go into November that way. And it's
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  Speaker 1: it's very plausible that you can give absolutely, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you get Sunday in Kansas City. Alright, Big thing three
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  Speaker 1: is the Kansas City Chiefs offense. We saw it last night.
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  Speaker 1: It is lethal, it is dominant. But that's what this
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars defense wants to go up against. We saw Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes three hundred and four yards. We saw Kareem Hunt.
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  Speaker 1: That running back really really good. He had a hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty one yards. This defense is going to be challenged,
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  Speaker 1: but that's not a problem. Well as bad as the
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  Speaker 1: defense is, the offense is good. You know. I think
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  Speaker 1: if you asked anybody who's watching this right now, right
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  Speaker 1: to tweet us, where is the Chief's offense ranked? Right?
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars the number one defense, the number one scoring defense,
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  Speaker 1: giving up just fourteen points per game, number one against
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  Speaker 1: the past. Where are the Chiefs? And I think most
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  Speaker 1: people would say number one. They're not. They're not number
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  Speaker 1: two or three, or four, or five, or six or
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  Speaker 1: seven or eight their ninth. This quarterback has so many
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  Speaker 1: weapons at his disposal. Uh So that's the impressive part.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's forget the yards, it's the points. Thirty six
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  Speaker 1: points per game. After last night's game, and you just
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: look across the board and you see Tyreek Hill. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, the Broncos did a great job in
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  Speaker 1: containing Hill. Yeah, he had six catches for fifty four yards.
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  Speaker 1: He is a very I mean, you hold your breath
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  Speaker 1: when number ten is anywhere near. Um. They've got Travis
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey the tight end. Uh, Sammy Watkins. They paid sixteen
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  Speaker 1: million bucks a year. He tweaked his hamstring. We all
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  Speaker 1: know what that is, right now. Kareem Hunt led the
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  Speaker 1: league in rushing last year. He had the long run
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  Speaker 1: down the sideline. Uh. Just an incredibly gifted guy. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, you're watching that left handed pass from last
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  Speaker 1: night that people are raving about on social media. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like the quarterback is tremendous. Just watch how he just
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  Speaker 1: finds Tyreek Hill and there's Hill once again, kind of
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  Speaker 1: leaking around, very tough to cover. He's so small and quick,
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  Speaker 1: and then he turns and gets the first down. Um,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: this is the play that everyone will talk about. But
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you know the play that they they're talking about in
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Denver this morning is the thirty five yard play down
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the field at the play clock. And we've got a
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: shot of that where you can clearly see that the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: play clock had expired on third down and seven. It
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: should have been third and twelve. Now you're not they're
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: not out of it at that point, right because this
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: guy can throw the ball all over the field. Jeff
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Lockerman will share his thoughts when he comes in with
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: us later in the show. Um, Mahomes is a he's
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: a talent. He's a special talent. The arm is is rare.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: It's really rare. You don't have guys that can throw
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the ball. And the way he can run to just
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: escaping the pocket, and how quick the entire offense play
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: they think is what it impressed me. Movest they just
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: they were everywhere. That was a Marque match up last night. Um,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I had, you know, all three boys sitting with me
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: watching a Jen was sitting there. We don't do that
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: on Monday night football anymore. And everyone's going their own way.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: They're watching on their phone or their iPad. We were
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: all sitting there watching it. And there was an ordinary
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: third down and say seven, and pressure came from von
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Miller and he just stepped out to his right and
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: von Miller was about to wrap him up, and you
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: just flicked the arm and put it between two defenders
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to Chris Connolly for a first down right inside the
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: red zone. It's just that more impressive than the left
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: handed pass right or the long touchdown pass is the
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: velocity and the confidence just put the ball right on
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the spot. Yeah, he's got a great arm. He knows
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: he has a great arm. He has tremendous weapons. Again,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Hill and Hunter, those two guys. Everyone knows him. But
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: don't forget Kelsey, who may be one of the best
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: tight ends in this game. Forget the may He is
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends in the game, maybe
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the most difficult to cover. But you know what, you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: got a guy into Shawn Gibson who's coming off a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: huge game against Gronkowst. This defense does not lock Black
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: confidence for the opportunity to cover them. Absolutely, no matter
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: how many weapons they have. Think of how many weapons
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense has and where they're going to place
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: all of them against Kansas City again. Uh, if if
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold has the shot in the back and and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I know we have it the play of Mahomes where
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the play clock runs down, you can clearly see this. Okay,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: we'll try to find it for you. Uh, you can
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: see clearly. It's all over social media. It was right there. Uh,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and so that'll be a story. They're talking about that
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: one in Denver this morning. This is a very talented
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Chief's offense, a very beatable opponent. Do no matter what
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you read this week, and John Osian is going to
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: record already is saying that he sank to the Jaguars
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: win this one. Well, I'm leaning that way to this
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: defense can handle this offense, and I think this offense
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: can handle that defense. It's gonna be a great game.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: We'll see. We've got a whole week to talk about it.
• 17:43
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• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Ashlands analysis. We are analyzing the penalties against the Gents.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Nine penalties for eighty nine yards. But there's one that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: stands out to me. It was to Shaun Gibson's personal
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: foul had nothing to do with the play. Later on
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: yesterday he said in the locker room, you know, I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: blame Ramsey. He pumped me up all week. I channeled
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: my inner Jalen Ramsey. I don't know how he lives
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: his life, but it's not for me. So he made
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a joke out of it. It's a day later, we're
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: past it. But I watched the bench's reaction to that
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: personal foul and they all were just come on, man like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: just so defeated by it. And you say that this
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is one of the best teams they have c getting
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: back to the FC Championship game, that's the goal, and
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like you can't get there when you make
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: dumb personal fouls like that. Well, let's call it what
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it is. It's a selfish penalty because he ran across
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the field to give it to Unua. Was not even
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: in the play, wasn't in the play, wasn't beaten on
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the play, he didn't so a play after and here's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: here's kind of going back to Sunday where you just
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: felt they were out of whack. Right, So standing in
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the edgeone watch him make a great play on the ball, okay,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and then it's called back. I can understand the frustration.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: But the very next play he gets the fifteen yard
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: penalty hold on his seck. Now, all of a sudden,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: right you're facing first intent at your thirty five instead
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of for sintendent midfield. You get a field goal, but
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: maybe you get a touchdown out of that, and you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: just can't let things go like that. I like the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: fact that he was joking about in the locker room
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: yesterday saying that's not for me. That's his proud way
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of saying I'm sorry. That's his way of saying it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And it totally get it. But you can't you can't
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: go forward with mistakes like that, not with not in
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the second quarter. You can't do it in Kansas City.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You certainly can't do it against the Eagles. In Philadelphia.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: The coaching staff and they would say you can't ever
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: do it. Well, they got away with it on Sunday, Okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but you're not going to find that that works for you.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: You can't let that culture of it's about me, right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I'm upset. You can't let that permeate. And you've got
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: an edgy we talked about this all the time. You've
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: got an edgy defense in there where guys make it
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: about them. But you can still pound your chest a
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: little bit and keep it within the framework of the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: team if you don't commit stupid penalties like that, right,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and when it's uh, you did well in a play.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: You know, if Jalen Ramsey makes a tackle and he
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to play on their standard. But for someone
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: who wasn't even involved in the play and has to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: run across the fields react, I can't be doing that. Um,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So you're absolutely dead on can I expand it just
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: on penalties in general? So this has been the case
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: throughout the preseason. Where do they penalty after penalty after
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: what do we we talk about it after every game?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Thirteen penalties in Minnesota for something like a hundred andred
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and sixty yards And he's like, oh, is this going
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to be a trend? But a one point I look
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: up in there, you know, seven for seventy nine and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: then eight for eighty nine. I mean, it's just piling up.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: If you have nine penalties for forty five yards, like, okay,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: we can fix that, right, I mean, that's guys jumping offside,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: that's guy's lending up in the neutra zone. Stupid mental penalties.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: But you're getting penalties that they're averaging ten yards and penalty.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You can't have that, and they pile up in bunches.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: You know, I just talked about the two shawn penalty,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: right what about in the third quarter where you had
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the penalty on the illegal shift on a twenty five
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: yard game from Borders to Westbrook brought back by the shift,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Jaguars have to punt two places later, and then you
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: got dj Are running into the punt returner. I mean,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you can't get to a point where you're losing your
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: grip and you have moments like that. Against a bad
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: team like the Jets, you're going to be able to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: overcome that. Against a great quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, You're
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: not in the storyline would be we shot ourselves in
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the foot. The penalties again, it can happen. You gotta
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: stop it right now. Well, there have. There have been
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: great teams that have been able to overcome penalties. You know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the Raiders of the seventies are one of the most
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: penalized teams of all time. Um, I don't. They're calling
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: more penalties these days than they did back, more than
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: ever and more than ever, right, don't. Nobody wants to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: be compared other than the Super Bowl rings and maybe
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit personality to those great Raiders teams that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: were so heavily penalized. No one wants to be compared
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: with I want to play better football. Yeah, you want
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to play better football than that. It showed me a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: lot with the opening statement, even though there was a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: big one against the Jets, for him to come in
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and the third world be penalties. We got to stop them.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: He didn't even address the win. He didn't address how
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: well Boardles played, how well D. D. Westbrook paid well.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like they're spiraling on this
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: because every week it's eight or nine penalties for eighty
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: or ninety yards, and you can't. He knows, he's got
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to stop it cold right now, stone cold stop like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: we did there. Yeah. I like what I did there too, Alright,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: So that's Ashton's analysis, and let's have anything else to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: add that is it. Let's see if we have to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: pick a different analysis next week, and hopefully you do. Yeah,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: all right, time for brand new segment. We call it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Agree to Disagree. We're gonna come up with some sort
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of catchy little graphic and music and something. Yeah, because
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: this this could be too much fun. But basically what
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we did was we went through Twitter yesterday and asked
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you to give us a bold prediction, something that you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: think about Sunday's game at Arrowhead Stadium and will either
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: agree with you or disagree, or one of us could
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: agree and the other could disagree, and then we'll fight.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I just kidding. No, we'll fight. It's compelling TV. We'll
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: get Joe involved too. All right, go for it. Let's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: do it first. One Florida boy seven Duval holds Kansas
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: City to less than two hundred total yards. I disagree
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: with this, Patrick Mahomes. I saw him for three and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: four yards last night. I think they're in incredible offense.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna hold them to less than
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: two hundred yards. I do think you win, but I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a high scoring game. I think
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: it's going to be close. I don't think it's going
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to be a blowout. And I disagree well, and I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: disagree to And here's why. The Jags held the Jets
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to a hundred and seventy eight yards one s eight.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: That's with a rookie quarterback who's playing okay and no weapons.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was nobody on the field for the Jets,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: not in the backfield, not on the line of scrimmage,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: not the tight end that made you worry that they
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: were going to be able to stretch the field. They
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: held them two hundred and seventy eight yards. One explosive play,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the forty two yard play, which really was a play
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: where everybody was trying to tackle the ball and create
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a turnover, shouldn't have happened. So now you're talking about
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes, the hottest quarterback in football,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelsey, they may or may
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: not have Sammy Watkins. Can go on and on and on.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: There's no way you're holding them to less than two
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: hundred yards. You may not be able. You can win
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: if if you keep them out of the end zone
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and they could have four hundred yards. That's how good
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: this offense is just in terms of personnel. And you're
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: talking about one of the great offensive minds in the game.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And Andy Reid, who if you watch the game last night,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: was doing all kinds of things with Tyreek killed different motions.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: At one point, they know they're moving guys, you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: three and four guys. They had three receivers set to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: one side, and they brought the wide guy, and then
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they brought the inside guy, and then they brought the
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: slot guy. They're going to create some confusion. They're going
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to get some yards. Two hundred is an entirely unrealistic
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: but I like rethinking. Yeah, I like it, but it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: very it's very difficult to hold a team to under
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: two hundred yards. They have to be bad, like the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Jets were bad, and this defense and offense played so well. So, yes,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: we disagree on that one. We agree, but we didn't. Yes, okay,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: we need to score boarders. Yes, all right, let's go
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to the next one. The Jags will run it up
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the gut for two fifty and keep the Kansas City
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: offense on the sideline. Hashtag hot take. Um, I'm gonna disagree.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I totally agree that it would be possible if you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: had Leonard for ned. I totally agree it would be
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: possible because the Kansas City defense is just it's it
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is not Miles. I'll give you the number right now.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So last night the Broncos with Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: two rookies, ran for a hundred and sixty yards. The
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are twenty feet against the run, but you you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: could just see you could exploit it on the side. Um,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I can't see the Jaguars running for two fifty because
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs without Leonard are going to stack the line
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and make Blake Boardles beat them. Um, it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a great thought. If you run for two fifty, then
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes never sees the field, which would be a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: great It would be the offense being defense for you.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: But half to disagree with that unless you know something
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I don't, and Leonard's playing on Sunday, I'm gonna have
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to go with you and disagree on this. I think
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: it'll be close to fifty. I think is a lofty number.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I do think t J. Yelden and Corey Grant if
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: leon and Front does not play. I think they'll play
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: well against this Kansas City Chiefs defense. We've talked about
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the comparison with Corey Grant and Philip Lindsay. They really
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: couldn't seem to stop him, and we saw the similarities
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: in that. I think they play well. But to and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: every week, though, don't you expect teams to be able
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to take away a twenty yard run by Blake Bortles. Yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: we just expected. Okay, we're not gonna let him get that,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and yet every week he seems seems to find it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So you could push that number, I mean you could.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: You could find yourself at one s two fifties, just
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a big number. Again unless Leondard plays and is completely healthy. Um,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and we just don't know that. So stay tuned. One
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of these days we're gonna agree with one of these
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: days we have more though, hold on, all right, big Marty,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: seventy nine. We blow them out in Arrowhead next Sunday,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thirty to ten. I still want to agree with this one.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I too would be awesome. Yeah, but them on, I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: mean that's the term blow them out. This is too
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: good of a team to blow them out. Well, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: they're averaging thirty six points per game. I get it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: The drag Wars are giving up fourteen, which means that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: if you split the difference, they get twenty two. I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: don't see you holding them to just ten points are
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna be much much closer
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: than that. I think it's gonna be really exciting, fun
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: game to watch. But thirty tends seems too big of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a point. There's one way you could get close to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that number the turnovers that we haven't seen right I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: counted four guys that had their hands on the ball.
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  Speaker 1: A J boy told me last week it was five.
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  Speaker 1: If that's the case, okay, well then maybe you can
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  Speaker 1: blow them out. If the turnovers that that they're supposed
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to come in bunches finally come this week, maybe you
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: get closer to that number. But I just realistically, thirty
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: six points a game they've played. They played guss defense
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Uh, they played the Steelers, who don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: appear to be the Steelers this year on defense right now.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: But they have put up points on some good defense,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: some talent to defense. Absolutely of seven last night. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: think the Jacksonville defense is the best in the league.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that they're that much better than
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: everyone else, that they could hold onto town. We agree,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: but we disagree. Fourth one, after a thirty point laws
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  Speaker 1: at home, Chiefs coach Andy Reid vows to start the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: South Beach diet. Okay, I disagree with the thirty point
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: lost at home for the reasons that we just said. Um.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I love the second thought too, but I disagree with
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that because I think that's Andy Reid's thing, that's his stick,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and there's too much good barbecue in Kansasy and he's
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: not worried about a South Beach diet. He's worried about
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a football team. But I like, I like the creativity.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: That's what we're going with. Okay, we agree with you.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: We're a green again, alright. Last one for net doesn't
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: play and we played better as a result. Where is
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: John Osier when you need them? Well? Look, I mean
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: they played very well against the Patriots, who are not
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the defense that we have come to know from Bill
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Belichick's team. I don't I don't know that Kansas City
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: is what we've seen from them in recent years. On
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball as well, especially Rick
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Barry isn't playing, so I could see this. I could
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: see Leonard not playing, and I could see Blake Bortles
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: coming out um and putting together back to back games
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: against that defense. I could see that. I'll agree with it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Not it's not because right, it's one and then two.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: One is for net As a play I could see that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Everyone could Uh, the Jags played better. I could see that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be because they don't have four new
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It would be because they don't have for Neat and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they're focused on playing better knowing that they can't rely
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: on him to go win. Right, you have to explain
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that because that question makes it seem like, oh, we
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: don't have learned for Net. Well, this offense at times
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: plays better without for Net. I disagree with that, like
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: we all have disagree with that. So I'm going to
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: go with disagree based on the principle, but further explaining
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: it how they have to get more creative with the games.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Sound like a lawyer? When do you start law school? Never?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would make it through a day
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of law school. But I wish I could agree to disagree.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: We agreed way you off, and let's try to disagree
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: next week. Right, you know you and I yea, yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: we'll find some things to fight about. Okay, okay, we'll
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: take a break. When we return, we'll get ready for
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Jeff logging coming up in about ten minutes or show
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  Speaker 1: So this is a different version of top tweets we
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: showed you this last week. It has take a deep
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  Speaker 1: breath Tuesday. Whether it's a win or a loss. We
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: look at Twitter, we look at the reactions from fans.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: We pick out a few statements when we say, yes,
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  Speaker 1: hip hop artists from Jacksonville becoming more famous, has a
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  Speaker 1: few hit on the radio radols from Duval, hence the
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  Speaker 1: name Little Duval. He says on Twitter, the Jaguars and
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  Speaker 1: the Rams are going to the super Bowl. He tweets
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that out on Sunday after the Big Jets win. It's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: all excited. You know. The power rankings thing last week,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I took a little flat because I kept the Rams
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: right at number one at two weeks ago. Um, they're
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: playing the best football of anyone in the league on
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, most consistent football. We'll see
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: if they can keep it up without their cornerbacks. That
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: keep to leave is done for at least eight weeks.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is week to week with the calf, although
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you know we've seen calf injuries. Linker for you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: four to six weeks around here, so you know, if
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they can keep it going. Um, and you know, this
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: team has to play much much better, much better. They're
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not going to the super Bowl if they are minus three, right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Uh they one at minus three, which happens uh like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: two percent at the time. Okay, you can't win in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Kansas City if your minus three. You can't win. If
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you're averaging ten penalties at ten yards a clip, they've
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: got to play better. Uh, they take a deep breath?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Isn't necessary for a little duvall. I kind of get
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: what he's going at. You know, this team is very
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: talented and they've got the potential to get a lot better.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: To take a deep breath is for the locker room.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: They take a deep breath today, come back and look
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: at the tape. But they've already looked at the tap.
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  Speaker 1: Come back and get ready with the idea that you're
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: going to be better. Yeah, I say, take a take
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: a deep breath. With the super Bowl talk. It is
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: very early in the season. I like that he's making
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a prediction, and I agree with you, but I'm going
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: to tell you to take a deep breath on it
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like this for so many years, the question was with
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars win enough games in the first eight weeks
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to be able to even be relevant in November, so
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: at least in September and October when the word super
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Bowl was brought up in the Jaguars are in it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. People deserve the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: right to think that way. We're not necessarily talking about
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it other than we think it's a legitimate expectation that
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: they'll contend. Right, but deep breath, let people breathe a
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: little bit. Come on, let him enjoy at Ashland. Dangn
• 37:59
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  Speaker 1: can now go back if they do make it the
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl and say, hey, look I told you so.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I agree with him, and that may be why he's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: tweeting it in the first place. It's on the record.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Little Do I find him on Apple Music? You can? Yes, alright.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: This next one comes from fans from our Exfenity Drive
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: poll yesterday. Player of the Game. A fan comments, it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: certainly not Jalen Ramsey or a j boy overrated. A
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: fan comes back, chill, the turnovers will come. How could
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: they possibly be overrated? How many touchdowns the Jets score,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: but the initial comment Jalen Ramsey a j boy overrated.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: They're certainly not the player of the game. No, no,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're overrated. I don't know that they
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: have shown us their best yet this year. Uh. There
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: were a couple of plays in the second half. Again
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I said, I thought they got bored where they just
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: warn't his into the game. Where there was a play
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in particular where Jalen was working on. Was it Robby
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Anderson and he had to come from behind the ball
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: was overthrown. Um, that's happened once or twice this year.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he's died in for his best.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I expect it this week because it's it's a statement game.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It's Patrick Mahomes to be honest the entire No, no,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I mean not overrated. Pro Bowlers, All Pro, second team
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: All Pro. I mean no, no, they're not overrated in
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: not take a deep breath, pal, Just because you haven't
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: seen the takeaways doesn't mean they're overrated, doesn't. Yeah, we
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: talked so. I saw another one about Unique and Gockway
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and how he's overrated because of the sacks when they
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: don't see the big numbers on the stat line. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: feel like people get over hot and bothered about the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: People watch the ball and if they don't see and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Gockway getting to the ball or Jalen coming down with
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the ball, they think they're overrated. Everyone expects these guys
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to contend for Defensive Player of the Year, to set
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: records club or NFL records. If you watching Gockway, just
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: focus on. Don't worry about where the ball goes. Okay,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: just focus one. He was splitting double teams. He forced
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Calvin Beach him to hold him at least once on Sunday.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: That was called several more times. He is constantly threatening
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the quarterback and forcing the quarterback to make quicker decisions.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: He's playing very, very well, very well. Again, it's that
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: home run mentality. Everyone wants to see the ball go
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: over the fence. They don't realize that a ball that
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: bounces in and scores two runs is good to Absolutely
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it's good to The sack is a big play. They
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: will come, the takeaways will come. Take a deep breath
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: on the numbers, everybody, all right? Last one this comes
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: from the injury update tweeted up by the Jaguars when
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Leonard for Nette was out of the game, fans freaking out.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Leonard front is soft. Leonard Fret is just a fragile
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Fred two point oh and this one, this is the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: one I want to concentrate on. Fred Taylor at least
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: played ten years. Bournett might play like four. Um. Yeah,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So for net Is is a different stylo back. He
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: is a power back. He has a violent running style
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that reminds a lot of people of a o'campbell um.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: The big backs technically do tend to have shorter careers,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the guys who run over people. But I wouldn't call
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: him for a jil Fred. I wouldn't call him soft
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: soft at all. Fred in n you know, miss six
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: games with a hamstring. He's dealing with a hamstring. Fred
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: recovered and went on to play thirteen seasons. Right. Uh,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the opportunity is there for him to keep playing and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: playing and playing right. And we're seeing such a comparison
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: with the Fred Taylor injury and they're too different to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: hamstring injury. He's just you can't right, It's a lingering injury.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: He's just going to need some time to get over it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: It sucks when you don't have a dominant player, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you were so excited to see him perform the same.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And we've seen him basically for two halves of football
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: against the Giants and against the Jets. You'll see him
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: this year and he'll make an impact and you'll regret it. You,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: in fact, you may say he should go to the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. At what's your point? You be overreacting to? Right,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: take a deep breath. How about couple of headlines before
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: we bring Jeff Loghman in deal? All right, let's go
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: with it. We will start in Pittsburgh, and the question
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: is will the towels twirl when Levy and Bell runs
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: onto the field. If you've never been to Pittsburgh for
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a football game, have you been ever? Uh? Boy in
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: for a treat? When those towels start twirling, it is
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: an awesome atmosphere. I wonder if there is with with
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a one, two and one club. I wonder if there
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is some animosity towards Levian Bell, who says he's gonna
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: report during the bye um. Hopefully he's kept himself in
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: shape and play. I thought it was interesting. You know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the last two weeks we've heard trade rumors. We've heard
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: that they were open two weeks ago to a trade,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and last week they named their price. Maybe because they
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: didn't get anyone taking. Levian decided it was time to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: come in and says he still wants to be a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: stealer and play in Pittsburgh. But he really wants is
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the money. We'll see whether they give it to him.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I would guess. I guess they're not going to if
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: they haven't given it to him already. He will be
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: there in the bye week and ready to play in
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Week eight, according to him. Up next bad news for
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Aaron Colvin injured his ankle in the Texans first win
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of the season over the Houston Our pardon me over
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday. Um yesterday, Bill O'Brien said
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: there's a possibility he could play again this year, but
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it didn't look all that good. Remember he signed a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: contract there. He wanted the chance to prove that he
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: was a starter in his home state. Could be that
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that frontline guy like a j boy a here um
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like we're gonna get much of a chance
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to see him the rest of the year. And finally,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: how about this one. A week ago, Pete Carroll said
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: things were trending in a positive direction. Sunday that direction
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: was up but with a different different finger everyone, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: this one right for Earl Thomas. Um. So you know
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you think maybe that would anger the coach? Right? That
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: was clever, don't you think? Right? Right? Okay? Um, yesterday,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said, give him a break, an emotional moment. See,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and Pete is a cool guy. I've only met him
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, but he's a cool guy and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: he doesn't let things get in his way. Log him
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and play for him. So maybe he'll share a story
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: or two about Pete. But Pete seemed you know, the
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: right word is a sanguine. You can look at one
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: up um. Yeah, uh he did, nonplussed. He was just
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: cool and comfortable. You have to look a him up to. Um.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Just didn't let it bother him. He said. It was
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: an emotional moment for the kid, you know. I mean
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: he realized immediately that the leg was broken and acted. Uh.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: You know, he's that kind of he's a reactive player.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: He wasn't surprise cut him some slut, which was a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: very adult thing for Pete Carroll say, agreed, and you're
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: just gonna add fuel to the fire. If you're saying, oh,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: he shouldn't have done that, Yeah, yeah, I love Pete.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: He does it differently than most everyone else. All right,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: we'll take a break. When we come back, jelam and
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: join us. He'll share some thoughts from Sunday's game. Maybe
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: he got a chance to see a little the Kangas
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: City game last night. I know he's watched Pat Mahomes
• 44:37
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• 46:47
  Speaker 1: of hard stay awake. Uh, but it's good. It's good.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: You don't get you don't get bothered down there, you know.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: And what we're talking about is way down stadium. I
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: mean it's literally you're a yeah, but there's no there's
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: no tapes anymore. They used to be tapes along all
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the walls and carry tapes back and forth. And it
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: is so cool now to where literally you can you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: can use a search engine. Unlet's say looking at the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Let's say I want to look at
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a complete every completion to Tyree Kill of ten yards
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: to twenty yards. You entering that data and R gives you,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: it gives you a file and you can watch it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And I know you're old enough because because I did.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: In high school, there was a coach that threaded a
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: projector with film. They were splicing film and taping it
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: together film Ashley. You know they like to make fun
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of that. You'll get used to it. That's all right.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: People make fun of my old age. So welcome to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the club. There you go. So um, I know last
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: night you talked about receivers getting open. Indeed he had
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a big game. What did you see from Blake in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the receivers this week that you didn't see last week
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: against the Titans. Well, let me start with this. The
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Jets defense is not very good, okay, because I think
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: good offenses make the windows smaller, and the windows were
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: really big against the Jets. They had a problem. And
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's coaching or if it was
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: one particular player, but Buster Screen, who is essentially their nickelback,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: didn't really appear to know what he was doing, or
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: wasn't coached to know what he was doing, whatever you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: want to call it. So anyway, there was a lot
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of room for the receivers. And and last night on
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the Film Room, I showed a couple of different examples
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: of how guys can appear to be so wide open.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: And in one instance it was the play action of
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: the run pass option that holds the linebackers then tight
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and It creates a great gap between what I call
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the two levels, which is the linebackers and then the safeties,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and there's plenty of room for a quarterback to complete
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a pass and man coverage. You can have a rub
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: route to where it's essentially like basketball, like a pick play,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: which worked for Deity. In another instance, there was another
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: one to where Buster Screen was playing zone, everybody else
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: was playing man. Hello, you know, I mean, let's get
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: on the same page. But it was it was a
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: very good game plan. I give Nathaniel Hackett credit because
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: they really left even some more on the table because
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: if you think about t J's long completion for a touchdown,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: they could have ran that play every single time. Really literally,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: when the Jets were in a three deep for wunder
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: needs his own and they collapsed the wide receiver to
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the side of the nickel, which was Buster Screen, he
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: would chase all the way across the formation and leave
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the entire flat wide open on that particular side. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: they exposed it one time, but they literally could have
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: gone back to it every time because the Jets never
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: fixed it. Spose they don't know for something else. I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm like the last person to want to
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: like get on a coaching staff. But there was some
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: really questionable decisions by the Jets in that game. If
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: you look at clock management, and in the first half
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it was terrible, and then the clock management towards the
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where they've got to score, they've got
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to do thing going for it on fourth down on
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the one side of the fifty. I mean, just it
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks seemed to play much much better. What was different
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: about him from your opinion, Well, I don't want to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: see I don't want to say that. There were a
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: lot of things that First of all, he was accurate
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and he made the easy throws look easy, which the
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: week before he missed easy throws and made him look
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like they were of challenge to throw. And then he
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: made some difficult throws. First, let me give credit to
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the offensive line because I think the protection was really good.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I thought a j Camp played a good game, in
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: which I was kind of concerned about him because last
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: year when he came back from the triestep injury, because
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: he had that issue last year, he didn't play well.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I thought he played well. Josh Wells played outstanding. I
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: mean outstanding, not that there was you know, great pass
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: rusher on the other side, but I mean, look, when
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: they're not great, you make him look not great. And
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: he did exactly so good for those guys. But but
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, I think, in my opinion, first of all,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: we never questioned his toughness. We know he's one of
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the toughest that there is in the game today, and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: all football players are tough, but he's really tough. But
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: his pocket presence I would put up there with the
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: best in the league. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: who else you want to say that? Well, And there's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: one plane particularly stands out to me where he stood
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: in the pocket and stood in the pocket, and it
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: was the throw to O'Shaughnessy on third and fourteen where
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: he picked up seventeen yards and he drifted out and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: he just and he just kind of shuffled his feet
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and drifted out at the last minute. But you couldn't
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: he he didn't turn and fully run, He just kind
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: of slid and he was so patient that to he
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: was the perfect example of how good he is in
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the pocket. There was about four of those plays in
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the game very similar to where he kind of just
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: drifts but he's not panicking. And if you compared Sam
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Donald to Blake Bortles and you go boy to Sam,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: darn will have a long way to go, you know so,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: But that's typical. I mean, he's a young, young quarterback.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: But I thought Blake's pocket present was was exceptional. Uh,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the one where he actually makes the unblocked linebacker and
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I believe it was Zavery Williamson that was coming in
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: unblocked into the backfield, makes a miss completely and Williamson
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: was unblocked and then he evades and then he scrambles
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and that's that's big time stuff. And on top of that,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: he might be the most talented running quarterback in the league.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So you put those two things together, Now you just
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: need the consistency of throwing an accuracy to to kind
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: of follow suit. And if so, and I'm not saying
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: it needs to get to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers level,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: but if it just gets a little better and a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: little more consistent, lookout d D. Westbrook last night an
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: All Access. I heard he had a lot of fun,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: had a lot of personality, and what a better game
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: from him? In all of the wide receivers and we
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: talked about it last week. He said they had to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: step up from within. We talked about how bad they
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: were last week, right, yeah, and uh, And it was
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: interesting talking to d D. I said, what was the
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: meeting like Monday, you know last week? He paused, He
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: paused for a minute, and he goes, it wasn't good
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: as you can imagine. Keenan kend mc cardell is their
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: wide receivers coach. He played the game, and he played
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: the game at a high level and surgically dissecting what's
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the what's the way that the way it's put Keenan
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't play okay, which means Keenan is pretty serious. Okay
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and uh. And they respect Keenan as they should because
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: he was better than all of them right now. So
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: so when he speaks, and I think that is one
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why when you have such a young room.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: He and I considered Ante Moncri is still young because
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: he hasn't done it for a very long time in
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the league at a high level, so he still a
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: young player. But when you have such a young room
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that you still have the confidence that you don't need
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: a veteran presence in that room because you really have
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: it with your coach, and Keenan is is a leader
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: in that room. So kudos to Keenan big step up.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: The sense of urgency was there that I didn't think
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: was there the week before against the Tennessee Titans, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Deedy was one of the beneficiaries. But you know, they
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: all played well. You know, they all played well. Keelan
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Cole making the catch that was down low the week
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: before he had two drops. You mean, the tough catches
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: were made and the execution was there. It was fun
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: to watch. So obviously we're gonna have to wait a
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: little while and fight out about about Leonard in the hamstring.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And well, I don't think we're gonna have to wait.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play for a while. How
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: long How long would you say, would you sit him
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: down through the by would you say, all right, we're
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: gonna give this five I don't know if it'll go
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that long, but I think, I mean, I would expect
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks. He's not gonna play when
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you come back, and then you can't finish the game.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: The first game back, first game back from a hamstring,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: then then you're probably gonna sit for all all right,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: So that's a reasonable expectation. Can the Jaguars Do you
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: see the Chiefs game last night? Have you watched any kids?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: And I watched. I watched the tape yesterday and I
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: watched the game wells night. It would seem to me
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs defense maybe better than the Jets, but
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it's not great. So the question I have for you
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: as can they Can they do what they did last
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: week against the Jets? In other words, can they use
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the passing game like they did to beat Kansas City? Yes, okay, yeah,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I think the put it this way the Jets. In
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs defense, I think the Jets def
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: it is better. Yes, okay, the execution I think is better.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: In can City, they have a great defensive cording. I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: believe it's Bob Sutton, who's been in the league for
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: a long time, very well respected. And their strength is
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: on the edge uh D four. I believe it is
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: on one side. And then you've got Houston, Houston h excellent,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: two excellent players on the edge, you know, but they
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: missed they missed fifty six and they missed the safety
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: not in the lineup. You know, Derrick Johnson was a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: really good football player for them for many years. And
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Eric Barry, I think is in my opinion, when he
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: was playing the best safety in the league, hands down,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Barton not not even clos one of the highest paid
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: safeties in the game. He's right up there. Should have,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: should have been and should be so. But you know,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I think there's some things that can happen. You know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: first of all, you got to take advantage of the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: running game against the chief because last night, I mean
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos running it right up the middle, and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I mean significant runs with two young running backs. So, uh,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you think that would open everything up even without Leonard? Absolutely? Okay, absolutely,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the flip side, I would not be surprised. Let me
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: add this, I would not be surprised if the Jaguars
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: at some point this week steal a running back off
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: somebody's practice squad. Okay, because I think you have to
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you have to consider that. And in my opinion, I
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: don't think they'd a very good job of handling the
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: running backs roster going into training camp. I think that
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: they could have found more better talent to compete at
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: that position. Than what they did. Count me a surprised
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that around the draft they didn't find a similar running
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: style back to Leonard, if that's right, would say a
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: guy who runs with power because t J isn't the
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: same runner and neither is Corey, so that they could
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: keep their personality alive and run the same sets even
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: without him. But they didn't. So maybe that's the maybe
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: they tried, because you know, when you have an established backfield,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: because for Net and t J and Corey Grant. I mean, look,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: if you're an undrafted rookie free agent, because I mean
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you've got to use draft picks to make a guy come.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe that you know, there was agents out there going, whoa,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: we're not going to Jacksonville. I got what they want
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: through now, you know. So the flip side, then, is
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the defense. Patrick Mahomes, you said before you walked in
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: here greatest arm talent I've ever watched on college film
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: bar nine, and I look, I don't I don't do
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: background checks. I don't talk to people at the collegiate
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: level to find out what kind of guy that these
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: He doesn't do hyperbole either, I mean this is not
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a gaggeration. I know, I literally I watched the college
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: film and that's what I put my unofficial grades on
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: and how I kind of ranked guys. And he is
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback. And I haven't been watching college film
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: for thirty years now, I mean, don't so, don't you know,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: take this with a grain of salt. I've probably been
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: watching college tape really good for fifteen years, twelve or
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, you know, quarterbacks in particular, the last ten
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: or twelve greatest quarterback talent arm talent I've ever seen
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: in college. He's, to me, the closest thing to Farve
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: since Farv was a young man. The throw that really
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: stuck out of my mind at Texas Tech is that
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: he would be on the run rolling to his left, okay,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: which for a right handed quarterback that's not a good
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: way to run, and he'd have a receiver running a
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: vertical route kind of like a post route, and from
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the run he would throw it and it would hit
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: the receiver in stride and you go, well what you rewind?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And you go was he trying to do that? Or
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: was that luck? And then all a sudden, a couple
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: of games later, you see him do something siwhere and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: you go, oh, my gosh, it's it's real. It wasn't luck.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: So how do you beat the guy? Well, I think
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: with any other young quarterback, you know, stop the run,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: which is not easy because they have arguably the best
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: running game the league. You know, he led the league
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: last year and Cream Hunt, who hadn't gotten off to
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: a good start, but last night when he went down
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the boundary with that one run, I mean that was
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: about as good as Oh, that was an amazing play
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: to stay in bound. And he's so strong. He kind
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: of reminds me a little bit of of an Emmett Smith,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: but because he has that type of strength. But I
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: think he uh, he's obviously has a little bit more
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I think breakaway speed than them and had not take
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: anyway away from m He's a Hall of Famer, So
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a challenge in and of itself. Their
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: offensive line is really good, really solid. They're not they
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: don't have any great peace but I think as a group,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I think they're really good. The right tackle I think
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: is is excellent. I think their left tackle, Eric Fisher
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: is adequate and he Heck's doing a great job. Andy Heck. Yeah,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Andy Heck. Who gave up how many sacks. Derrick Thomas
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: from Camp City Chiefs. I think it was like in seven.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: It was. It was an NFL record. I was there
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: that day and he would like punch me right now
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: if I brought that. I brought that. But he's a
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: great guy and he heck was a coach here and
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: he's done a great job with offensive line there and
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: ken see. But it's a challenge because Sony so many weapons.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins did a hamstring. Yeah, yeah, he may or
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: may not be available. That's a big deal. But you know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: here's the thing that's coming up on Film Room Friday.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: You give a little tease. The Chiefs have already faced
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense twice. People like, what do you mean
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: by that? Well, they played the Los Angeles Chargers. I
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: want to make sure I got that guy Los Ales
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Charge because Gus Bradley is there with that defense. They
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: also faced the San Francisco forty Niners last weekend. Robert Sala,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: who was the linebackers coach here, that that's this defense
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that they faced. And in the forty Niners game, there
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: was a fifteen play stretch where the Kansas City Chiefs
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: through five d balls. Wow. Now, I'm not talking okay,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a twenty yard pass. This is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: going I mean forty fifty yards in the air. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: out of the five that they had two two of
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: them were effective. The other three were incomplete. But it
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: was five different targets on all five passes. It wasn't
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: just Tyreek Hill. It was Tyreek Hill. And then it
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: was I can tell you right now, DeMarcus Robinson on
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: another one. And then it was the tight end, Uh no,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: that's the surprising thing, Demetrius Harris. And then another one
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: was Chris Conley. So Tyreek killed DeMarcus Robinson, Chris Connley,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Demetrius Harris, and then I think Sammy Watkins on another one.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: So and then you go back to the Pittsburgh game.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: They had two deep balls to Travis Kelsey. So they
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: don't care who it is, they're gonna throw it deep
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: against this defense. So that's the challenge for this defense.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Jal Ramsey A J boy A, Uh maybe d J.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Hayden if they get him. You know that I'll be ready.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Bet'll be ready for the deep ball. Well, I know
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: you're on radio next and you've got a busy week
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to talk about this Thanks so much for your time
• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:27
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