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- 0:02Speaker 1: The city of Punta Gorda in central Florida was once
- 0:05Speaker 1: listed by Money magazine as the second best place in
- 0:08Speaker 1: America to live. An easy going paradise known for long,
- 0:13Speaker 1: laid back summer days, but it's not without its night life.
- 0:20Speaker 2: How you doing over there? It's fine, really, I think
- 0:24Speaker 2: another paris.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Surrounding the city is a vast wilderness of tall trees
- 0:33Speaker 1: and thick vegetation, the perfect spot for subtropical predators, the
- 0:40Speaker 1: kinds of predators who would want to keep their activities
- 0:44Speaker 1: very secret.
- 0:46Speaker 3: If you were out there, nobody could ever hear your screen.
- 0:55Speaker 1: In January nineteen ninety four, two hunters head deep into
- 0:59Speaker 1: these woods. No one is prime hunting ground for wild hogs,
- 1:04Speaker 1: but it may be that hogs aren't the only thing
- 1:06Speaker 1: being hunted out here.
- 1:10Speaker 4: There's definitely foul play involved. Something really bad is going on.
- 1:14Speaker 1: An unidentified corpse is found in the Florida wilderness, and
- 1:18Speaker 1: it won't be the last.
- 1:19Speaker 5: We have no idea who any of these people were.
- 1:23Speaker 1: The damage to the body suggests extreme foul playing. Brutal
- 1:27Speaker 1: slaves put cops on the trail of a killer who's
- 1:30Speaker 1: one step ahead.
- 1:31Speaker 4: It was exactly like watching a sharp circle of prey.
- 1:34Speaker 1: To catch him, they'll use every trick in the book
- 1:37Speaker 1: and risk the life of one of their own. A
- 2:23Speaker 1: residential development goes belly up, leaving the forests around Putta Gorda, Florida,
- 2:28Speaker 1: shot through with paved roads to nowhere. These roads give
- 2:33Speaker 1: hunters easy access to terrain known as the hog trails,
- 2:38Speaker 1: and today they lead Rick Hobbes of the Charlotte County
- 2:41Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department to a corpse, joining him as Jim Myers,
- 2:47Speaker 1: a state investigator with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
- 2:52Speaker 5: The most typical things that we deal with here in
- 2:54Speaker 5: Charlotte County are generally thefts and burgeries, arguments, things of
- 2:59Speaker 5: that nature. We don't have that much in terms of
- 3:02Speaker 5: violent crime.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Authorities fear the status quo has just changed. But in
- 3:08Speaker 1: trying to determine if this is a case of murder,
- 3:11Speaker 1: they face an extreme uphill battle.
- 3:15Speaker 5: The bodies in the state of Florida, especially that in
- 3:18Speaker 5: a later time of year, they decompose rapidly because of
- 3:22Speaker 5: the moisture the heat out in the wooded area.
- 3:25Speaker 6: You've got.
- 3:27Speaker 5: Animals, insects, so it doesn't take very long for a
- 3:32Speaker 5: body to decompose down to skeletal remains that can happen
- 3:36Speaker 5: within a matter of weeks.
- 3:41Speaker 1: The lack of any clothing or personal effects on the
- 3:44Speaker 1: victim heightened police suspicions.
- 3:48Speaker 5: And there was just nothing there, just the body.
- 3:53Speaker 1: At the Charlotte County Morgue, the medical examiner seeks to
- 3:56Speaker 1: learn how the victim met his fate.
- 4:00Speaker 7: Logged the remains as a John Do because we did
- 4:04Speaker 7: not know the name, and after documenting all the external
- 4:09Speaker 7: evidence whatever was there and the remains, we performed the autopsy.
- 4:17Speaker 5: There were some indications during examination of strangulation.
- 4:21Speaker 6: They found some possible.
- 4:22Speaker 5: Indications of some ligature marks on the neck, in the arms,
- 4:28Speaker 5: and the legs.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Though exactly what happened is unclear, all signs point to homicide.
- 4:35Speaker 1: The next step is to identify the victim, and it
- 4:39Speaker 1: won't be easy.
- 4:41Speaker 8: When you have skeletal remains or a body that's found
- 4:44Speaker 8: in a remote area with nothing else. You have to
- 4:49Speaker 8: go back to the very basics.
- 4:52Speaker 9: We had to start from scratch.
- 4:55Speaker 6: We know he's a white male.
- 4:57Speaker 5: I believe he was around five foot nine I remember correctly,
- 5:01Speaker 5: which probably in.
- 5:03Speaker 6: His late twenties early thirties.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Dark hair investigators scour missing person's reports, the corpse's teeth
- 5:12Speaker 1: or X ray and compared to dental records, but to
- 5:16Speaker 1: no avail.
- 5:17Speaker 5: I actually had a partial fingerprint from the victim. That
- 5:21Speaker 5: was difficult though, because it was only a partial print
- 5:24Speaker 5: from one finger off the decomposed body. I had that
- 5:28Speaker 5: submitted to the automatic fingerprint identification system to see if
- 5:32Speaker 5: there was any possible matches on that.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Then the examiner finds an unusual clue, a steel pin
- 5:43Speaker 1: lodged in the victim's left leg and it's marked with
- 5:47Speaker 1: a serial number. But in the nineteen nineties, no reliable
- 5:51Speaker 1: records were kept to such implants. Having hit a dead end,
- 5:55Speaker 1: authorities now turned to a forensic skull reconstructionist. Photographs and
- 6:01Speaker 1: measurements of the victim's skull are entered into a computer.
- 6:05Speaker 1: The combined sciences of anatomy, osteology and anthropology are then
- 6:10Speaker 1: utilized to create a composite impression of the victim's facial features.
- 6:15Speaker 9: Well, you got composite.
- 6:17Speaker 8: Back, there's for supplements to show the public to try
- 6:20Speaker 8: to see if anyone wanted to recognize this individual.
- 6:28Speaker 1: The composite is circulated through the media, but no one
- 6:32Speaker 1: comes forward. After months of intense efforts, police have a
- 6:36Speaker 1: victim they still can't identify, but Rick Hobbs keeps trying.
- 6:41Speaker 5: I would physically go in and pull each piece of
- 6:44Speaker 5: evidence and examine it. I would go through each lab
- 6:48Speaker 5: report to see if there was anything that we may
- 6:51Speaker 5: have collected that for some reason or other, it didn't
- 6:55Speaker 5: get processed.
- 6:57Speaker 1: But despite his best endeavors, the case eventually goes cold.
- 7:02Speaker 1: At least no other bodies have turned up in the
- 7:04Speaker 1: time since John Doe was discovered, But all that changes
- 7:12Speaker 1: on New Year's Day nineteen ninety six.
- 7:16Speaker 2: What do you got there, boy?
- 7:18Speaker 1: When a dog owned by Northport resident Wayne Brown makes
- 7:22Speaker 1: a strange discovery.
- 7:24Speaker 4: His dog brought home a human head and was chewing
- 7:27Speaker 4: out on his front lawn.
- 7:29Speaker 1: The hog trails have offered up a second victim. How
- 7:32Speaker 1: many more may be out there? Investigation into the mysterious
- 7:42Speaker 1: death of a John Doe in Florida has gone cold.
- 7:48Speaker 1: No sooner has the case been set aside. When another
- 7:51Speaker 1: grim discovery is made in a neighboring county, Detective Tom
- 7:57Speaker 1: Schwineer of the Northport Police takes the call.
- 8:01Speaker 4: The skull, as it was found in the yard, was
- 8:03Speaker 4: missing the lower jaw portion, the upper teeth were intact,
- 8:08Speaker 4: and there was a minute amount of flesh still on
- 8:11Speaker 4: the skull. The first thing comes to a detective's mind
- 8:15Speaker 4: is where to come from and where's the rest of it?
- 8:18Speaker 4: So our first step is to find the rest of
- 8:20Speaker 4: the body. It was an area of very few houses
- 8:27Speaker 4: and there was a lot.
- 8:27Speaker 9: Of vacant roads there. We divided the.
- 8:30Speaker 6: Area up into blocks.
- 8:31Speaker 4: We had law enforcement officers from several agencies and what
- 8:34Speaker 4: we did is we did block by block grid.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Search days past with no luck.
- 8:44Speaker 2: I found something.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Then an officer wanders into an unsearched area.
- 8:49Speaker 4: There was bones, spine, rib cage. There was fleshy skin
- 8:56Speaker 4: still on the part of the rib cage and on
- 8:58Speaker 4: the one of the arms.
- 8:59Speaker 6: I believe it was a right arm.
- 9:00Speaker 4: We weren't really sure what circumstances we have, but we
- 9:02Speaker 4: have to treat any of these scenes as the possible
- 9:05Speaker 4: worst case scenario. We called in a FDLI forensics teams
- 9:11Speaker 4: that conduct their crime scene search. They put steaks up
- 9:15Speaker 4: and they go over every square inch with a fine
- 9:18Speaker 4: tooth comb to see what is exactly is mixed in
- 9:20Speaker 4: with the bones and the remains, and then they searched
- 9:25Speaker 4: the ground underneath all the remains that possible jewelry bullets.
- 9:30Speaker 4: There's no end to what may be of evidentary value
- 9:34Speaker 4: one of these scenes. And we did find a lower
- 9:37Speaker 4: job portion too when through were searching.
- 9:41Speaker 1: But what Schwentier doesn't find is also crucial to his
- 9:44Speaker 1: assessment of the case.
- 9:45Speaker 4: The first thing that keyed in I May was lack
- 9:48Speaker 4: of clothing. We found absolutely no evidence of that scene
- 9:51Speaker 4: other than the body and some skin on it. Somebody
- 9:55Speaker 4: brought him here or somebody probably killed him here.
- 10:02Speaker 1: An autopsy is conducted, though the coroner's report is inconclusive,
- 10:06Speaker 1: investigators are convinced of the worst.
- 10:09Speaker 4: We definitely felt it was a homicide. We had no
- 10:12Speaker 4: hard evidence to say how this person was killed, but
- 10:15Speaker 4: as investigators were leaning towards.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Homicide, investigators determine the body has been in the woods
- 10:22Speaker 1: at least six months, but in all that time, no
- 10:25Speaker 1: one matching its height or probable age has been reported missing.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Now police in two counties have anonymous victims, their cause
- 10:32Speaker 1: of death unknown. Nine weeks later, on March seventh, nineteen
- 10:44Speaker 1: ninety six, just three miles from where the bones of
- 10:47Speaker 1: John Doe number two were found, a motorist pulls off
- 10:51Speaker 1: the highway to relieve himself and the case takes another turn.
- 11:01Speaker 4: John Do number three was found in a very very
- 11:04Speaker 4: similar area as John Doe number two. This body was
- 11:08Speaker 4: mostly intact, laying on his back, his irons flailed out
- 11:12Speaker 4: to his side, totally naked.
- 11:15Speaker 1: There is no question this man was murdered, and Schweneer
- 11:20Speaker 1: gets a shocking new clue when he sees the John
- 11:22Speaker 1: Doe number three has been horribly mutilated.
- 11:26Speaker 4: As obvious as genitalia had been removed. Insects take the
- 11:33Speaker 4: easiest route of penetration to a body. They'll go into
- 11:36Speaker 4: any orifice, mouth, eyes, there's a gunshot, stabbing wound. This
- 11:41Speaker 4: is where the insects will infiltrate a body, and this
- 11:43Speaker 4: is where they were there in the groin area.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Authorities try to fathom what kind of deranged killer they're
- 11:49Speaker 1: dealing with.
- 11:50Speaker 8: Obviously, when you have a general toilt remove that was
- 11:53Speaker 8: an identifier that there's definitely some kind of a sexual.
- 11:58Speaker 9: Deviancy invall.
- 12:00Speaker 1: A search of the crime scene soon sheds light on
- 12:03Speaker 1: a psychopath's terrifying mo.
- 12:09Speaker 4: There was a ligature mark around the tree, a throat level.
- 12:12Speaker 4: There was some hand level, and it was also some
- 12:15Speaker 4: about where.
- 12:15Speaker 5: The ankles and chins would be on the tree.
- 12:18Speaker 4: Very obvious when you look at him as to what
- 12:20Speaker 4: happened there. This victim was tied to this tree. Now
- 12:27Speaker 4: we have two naked dead men out in the woods.
- 12:30Speaker 4: There's definitely foul play involved. Something really bad is going on.
- 12:37Speaker 1: When Rick Hobbs gets wind of the murders in Northport County,
- 12:40Speaker 1: his cold case suddenly warms up.
- 12:43Speaker 5: I grabbed my case file and I went up to
- 12:45Speaker 5: Northport and sat.
- 12:46Speaker 6: Down with Tom and.
- 12:49Speaker 5: We started comparing our cases.
- 12:53Speaker 6: That's a little different than the other one, still an
- 12:56Speaker 6: adult fail.
- 12:57Speaker 5: Now we could see the similarities between not only John
- 13:01Speaker 5: Done number one and John Done number three, but it
- 13:03Speaker 5: also brought in John Done number two, and we were
- 13:07Speaker 5: looking at one another's crime scene phones. If you didn't
- 13:10Speaker 5: know which scene you were looking at, you couldn't tell
- 13:14Speaker 5: them apart.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Hobbs and Schwineer revisit the first two crime scenes only
- 13:20Speaker 1: five miles apart. In both cases, they find the link
- 13:24Speaker 1: they're looking for.
- 13:25Speaker 5: We started seeing as the striation marks on the trees,
- 13:28Speaker 5: and I suspect we have a problem.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Yeah, The investigators are forced to confront the obvious they're
- 13:36Speaker 1: dealing with a serial killer. When the story breaks in
- 13:40Speaker 1: the media, the entire region is gripped in fear.
- 13:44Speaker 5: When we have a death, an unusual death in this area,
- 13:48Speaker 5: I mean it's going to be on the front page.
- 13:51Speaker 8: The community is not used to the crimes like this
- 13:54Speaker 8: being committed, and there was a lot of worried and
- 13:56Speaker 8: nervous citizens out there.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Pressure mounts on authorities to stop a madman before he
- 14:04Speaker 1: kills again. Unable to identify their latest victim, police seek
- 14:09Speaker 1: another way to move things forward. They turn to profilers
- 14:12Speaker 1: Wayne Porter for help in the case the investigation. The
- 14:17Speaker 1: brutalized state of the corpses convinces Porter that they're dealing
- 14:20Speaker 1: with a particularly vicious criminal, a sexual sadist.
- 14:25Speaker 10: A sexual sadist is an individual that would in fact
- 14:29Speaker 10: do harm to the individual while they are still alive,
- 14:33Speaker 10: and that harm, many times is to the genitalia.
- 14:38Speaker 6: Wayne, if you can give us a read.
- 14:39Speaker 1: On that you know and the ligature marks on the trees,
- 14:43Speaker 1: give Porter an idea of a killer's motivation.
- 14:47Speaker 10: Bondage with sexual sadists is a very common characteristic. You
- 14:52Speaker 10: will find bondage magazines in their mass history bondage is
- 14:59Speaker 10: one of the fast of the fantasy. This is part
- 15:02Speaker 10: of the gasoline that runs the fantasy. One of the
- 15:10Speaker 10: commonalities of sexual sadism is these individuals like to document
- 15:15Speaker 10: their crimes. They will videotape, they will take photographs.
- 15:30Speaker 1: To stop a monster in their midst, law enforcement agencies
- 15:33Speaker 1: from all over the state band together and create a
- 15:36Speaker 1: task force. They take over a vacant store in a
- 15:40Speaker 1: shopping mall and centralize operations.
- 15:42Speaker 5: We had upwards of fifteen sixty people working.
- 15:46Speaker 6: Out of there. I didn't say.
- 15:50Speaker 5: It's another one, so I had myself and then Jim
- 15:54Speaker 5: Myers from FDLA, Tom Swanier from Northport.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Now no sooner has the task force established itself. When
- 16:07Speaker 1: Hobbes receives disturbing.
- 16:09Speaker 5: News, Sheriff's office received a call early on the morning
- 16:15Speaker 5: of April seventeenth from a county survey crew.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right there.
- 16:21Speaker 5: Okay, they discovered part of a human body lying back
- 16:26Speaker 5: in the woods.
- 16:27Speaker 6: Guys, let's go.
- 16:28Speaker 1: Something's up for the Hog Trail murder investigators. It seems
- 16:32Speaker 1: the woods of central Florida are full of dead bodies,
- 16:36Speaker 1: Only this time dead men will start telling tales. Three
- 16:44Speaker 1: men have been found dead in the Florida Hog Trails,
- 16:47Speaker 1: killed by the same deranged sexual sadist. Now police are
- 16:51Speaker 1: back investigating John Doe number four.
- 16:55Speaker 5: We saw something kind of round laying on the ground,
- 16:58Speaker 5: and looking closer, it was definitely a human head.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Among the other remains is the victims decomposed Torso it's
- 17:09Speaker 1: this grizzly fine that provides investigators with their first break.
- 17:14Speaker 4: It was a very noticeable tattoo from the shoulder area.
- 17:19Speaker 4: It was a very good clue as far as identifying
- 17:21Speaker 4: so many tattoos, just like almost like a fingerprint, note
- 17:24Speaker 4: toh alike. I'll use different dyes, different colors, and we
- 17:27Speaker 4: felt this will help us identify this individual.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Hobbs walks deeper into the woods in search of more evidence.
- 17:36Speaker 6: Off in the distance, I can see something.
- 17:40Speaker 5: As I start getting a little closer, now I can
- 17:43Speaker 5: see it's carpet padding. So my first thought is.
- 17:48Speaker 6: Do I have a homeless guy sleeping in the woods.
- 17:54Speaker 5: But the thing that really said oh was I could
- 17:58Speaker 5: see blood over here. Lifted up the carpet padding and
- 18:05Speaker 5: there we had the remains of a white male, and
- 18:13Speaker 5: he didn't appear like he had been there very long.
- 18:16Speaker 6: Maybe twelve hours. He was really fresh, so to speak.
- 18:22Speaker 6: We could clearly see the.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Ligature marks on the neck, ligature marks on the arms,
- 18:28Speaker 5: around the biceps.
- 18:31Speaker 6: And along the calfs. I like to say it, but
- 18:35Speaker 6: this helps his cause him.
- 18:38Speaker 8: Death was suffocation, probably most likely from the you know,
- 18:41Speaker 8: the strangulation from via the ligature marks that were discovered
- 18:44Speaker 8: around the neck. The removal of the Jennifer's would appear
- 18:49Speaker 8: to be postmortem.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Not only has the serial killer struck again, his spree
- 19:01Speaker 1: appears to be escalating. Authorities now have two new bodies
- 19:05Speaker 1: from which to glean evidence. They begin with the tattoo
- 19:08Speaker 1: found on John Doe number four.
- 19:11Speaker 5: We decided to take that piece of skin and photograph it.
- 19:21Speaker 5: The tattoo was released to the news media, and it
- 19:23Speaker 5: was on the television stations, and it was printed in
- 19:26Speaker 5: the newspapers.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Hobb's tactic pays off.
- 19:31Speaker 5: Hi, this is Teresa Smith.
- 19:34Speaker 11: Is there someone I can talk to you about tattoo
- 19:37Speaker 11: in the newspaper.
- 19:39Speaker 4: Once we had John Doe number four identified as Kenny
- 19:42Speaker 4: Smith from Naples and Callier County, Florida, that gave us
- 19:45Speaker 4: a whole new avenue of investigation. We could go and say, well,
- 19:48Speaker 4: who knows him, who hangs out with him?
- 19:50Speaker 6: What's he do?
- 19:51Speaker 9: Where's he work?
- 19:55Speaker 6: Kenny Smith was basically the street person.
- 19:59Speaker 5: He he went from shell to sheltered, job to job,
- 20:02Speaker 5: did a lot of drinking, a lot of party and drugs.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Authorities take another look at the first three victims and
- 20:09Speaker 1: a pattern emerges.
- 20:11Speaker 5: When the medical examiner examines the body, he can tell
- 20:14Speaker 5: a lot about how a person lives. By the conditions
- 20:18Speaker 5: of the organs and the teeth and everything indicated that
- 20:22Speaker 5: these were people lived on the street.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Could it be that the killer deliberately targets the down
- 20:28Speaker 1: and out in hopes of keeping his victims nameless. Further
- 20:33Speaker 1: investigation of Kenny Smith yields no answers. Police now pin
- 20:39Speaker 1: their hopes on John Doe number five.
- 20:45Speaker 8: We took some latent fingerprints from Hell and ran them
- 20:50Speaker 8: through the automated print identification system.
- 20:53Speaker 9: He had some pass arrest.
- 20:57Speaker 1: John Doe number five is id'd as Rich Montgomery, also
- 21:01Speaker 1: a street person. Hobbes tracks down Montgomery's mother, who happens
- 21:05Speaker 1: to have some very interesting information about her son's final hours.
- 21:10Speaker 5: He said something about somebody offering him some money to
- 21:13Speaker 5: pose news, something about the man driving a Capria, a
- 21:17Speaker 5: blue Capri.
- 21:21Speaker 1: She tells police that Montgomery went to meet this man
- 21:24Speaker 1: and was never seen again.
- 21:26Speaker 8: The person was selecting Transiencent panhandlers.
- 21:32Speaker 9: For one reason.
- 21:33Speaker 8: It's because there's no one to witness the fact that
- 21:36Speaker 8: she picked him up.
- 21:43Speaker 1: After more than two years of investigation, the task force
- 21:47Speaker 1: has an mo and a profile of their killer. What
- 21:53Speaker 1: they don't have is a suspect. Now, a man who
- 22:00Speaker 1: took a ride with death is about to provide them
- 22:04Speaker 1: with one.
- 22:06Speaker 2: I'll talk to you for a minute.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Five men of no fixed address are murdered within a
- 22:20Speaker 1: ten mile radius of each other, and police still have
- 22:23Speaker 1: no suspect. But when news of the homicides reaches state
- 22:27Speaker 1: prison and made David Peyton, he contacts authorities with an
- 22:31Speaker 1: astonishing tale.
- 22:38Speaker 2: Mister Peyton and myers, won't you go ahead and tell
- 22:40Speaker 2: me your story?
- 22:43Speaker 12: So there's this guy pulls up to me in a blue.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Cor Yeah, this will be fun, lul little kickback.
- 22:50Speaker 13: I have a few cold beers, a little weed that
- 22:54Speaker 13: sounds good to me.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Hey, you care for some of these? He's right here.
- 23:00Speaker 6: Him, sweet man.
- 23:02Speaker 14: He drives out sort of into the woods, almost in
- 23:06Speaker 14: the middle of nowhere. Guy offers being more money. He says,
- 23:09Speaker 14: if he can tie me up take pictures of me
- 23:11Speaker 14: for some men's magazine, how'd.
- 23:14Speaker 15: You feel about if we get a little more creative
- 23:17Speaker 15: with the photographs.
- 23:19Speaker 14: I agree to it, but I'm feeling a little nervous
- 23:22Speaker 14: about this whole situation. He gets the car stuck in
- 23:26Speaker 14: a ditch.
- 23:28Speaker 16: Man, It's okay, I'll get him. NU give us a push.
- 23:30Speaker 2: Shoo, you stay here, I push.
- 23:34Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll just I'll drive it then, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:37Speaker 9: You drive.
- 23:42Speaker 8: During the course of the time he was in the vehicle,
- 23:45Speaker 8: he started looking around and saw a bag that was
- 23:47Speaker 8: in the back seat that had items like duct tape,
- 23:51Speaker 8: some ropes, a blue park a large.
- 23:55Speaker 5: Tight knife, and with what he had seen inside the
- 23:58Speaker 5: vehicle and the way the guy had acted when he
- 24:02Speaker 5: had the opportunity, he was behind the wheel of the
- 24:04Speaker 5: car when they got it free, he took off in
- 24:07Speaker 5: the car, leaving the guy out there.
- 24:11Speaker 6: In the woods.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Peyton may have cheated death, but he couldn't outrun the law.
- 24:23Speaker 9: He got the vehicle and went back to Fort Myers.
- 24:26Speaker 9: By this time, the drug and the.
- 24:29Speaker 8: Booze was really acting on him, and he actually fell
- 24:32Speaker 8: asleep and by this time, the subject had filled out
- 24:37Speaker 8: a stolen vehicle report with Charlotte County Shriff's Office. To
- 24:40Speaker 8: Fort Myers Police Department found the vehicle and mister Peyton
- 24:45Speaker 8: was arrested for grand theft auto and that's what he
- 24:49Speaker 8: was serving time on. It was a grand theft auto
- 24:51Speaker 8: from the subject's vehicle.
- 24:53Speaker 6: He provided some very specific information.
- 24:58Speaker 5: Which allowed us to go back through records and get
- 25:01Speaker 5: an identity on the person that he said took him
- 25:05Speaker 5: out into the woods. That person was found to be
- 25:09Speaker 5: a guy by the name of Daniel Conahan.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Police soon locate Conahan and put him under surveillance. A
- 25:20Speaker 1: background check proves very revealing.
- 25:24Speaker 4: Reviewing his records from the Armed Services the Navy, he
- 25:27Speaker 4: was determined that he was discharged for trying to commit
- 25:31Speaker 4: accescidomy and other sailors.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Conahan later moved to Chicago, where authorities tracked down and
- 25:37Speaker 1: interview an old roommate.
- 25:39Speaker 8: He actually was able to identify to us what mister
- 25:43Speaker 8: Conahan had stated as one of his fantasies, and that
- 25:48Speaker 8: fantasy is to pick up an individual like a hitchhiker
- 25:53Speaker 8: and take him to a wooded area, tie him up,
- 25:57Speaker 8: and have sex with him.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Leaving a trail of devi and sexual behavior in his wake.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Conahan moves from Chicago back to Punta Gorda.
- 26:06Speaker 4: Experience were elderly and they weren't in the best of health.
- 26:09Speaker 4: He moved back to health care for his parents.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Further investigation reveals that upon returning to Florida, Conahan trained
- 26:17Speaker 1: as a nurse, which could account for the skillful mutilation
- 26:21Speaker 1: of the victims. It looks like police have their man.
- 26:27Speaker 9: He was our key suspect at the time based on
- 26:29Speaker 9: what we had learned.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Now they need hard evidence to nail them.
- 26:36Speaker 8: We started a twenty four hour surveillance on him to
- 26:41Speaker 8: determine you know what is patterns as tribal powers stay
- 26:45Speaker 8: activity was.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Cameras are mounted on telephone poles outside his residence.
- 26:57Speaker 5: In watching the surveillance video kind of hand, he'd bring
- 27:01Speaker 5: his backpack out and he would stop and he would
- 27:04Speaker 5: set that backpack on top of that blue car, and
- 27:07Speaker 5: then he would usually stand there and smoke a cigarette.
- 27:10Speaker 8: And we believe that that backpack may contain what we
- 27:13Speaker 8: refer to as tools or the trades for a very
- 27:16Speaker 8: similar to what mister Peyton had described.
- 27:19Speaker 10: Some people call it a murder kid I call it
- 27:22Speaker 10: a treasure chest. And this treasure chest includes the weapons
- 27:29Speaker 10: that he's going to use, the bindings that will be used,
- 27:33Speaker 10: any equipment that might be needed in this assault.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Investigators follow the dutiful son as he drives his mother
- 27:40Speaker 1: to and from her senior's home. They also track his
- 27:44Speaker 1: less wholesome activities.
- 27:46Speaker 4: He drive by one of the soup kitchens or drive
- 27:48Speaker 4: by one of homeless shelters, and he was like cruising.
- 27:52Speaker 4: He's looking for exactly what we thought. He was looking
- 27:54Speaker 4: for a homeless person or somebody who's hanging around the
- 27:56Speaker 4: dumpsters or in one of the back alleys.
- 28:00Speaker 6: My views is hunting.
- 28:01Speaker 4: It's exactly like watching a shark.
- 28:03Speaker 9: Circle of prey.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Armed with information about the root, Conahan Travels authorities make
- 28:08Speaker 1: a bold boom. They place an undercover officer disguised as
- 28:13Speaker 1: a homeless man right in his path.
- 28:15Speaker 9: We put an uncover detective ray. We're out on a
- 28:18Speaker 9: corner where he.
- 28:19Speaker 8: Would go buy that location, coming back or from our
- 28:23Speaker 8: tour from visiting his mother.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Weir Man's his post, hoping to lure the targets.
- 28:37Speaker 2: How about.
- 28:41Speaker 1: What fit from here? Believe it is probably gonna head home. Finally,
- 28:50Speaker 1: after weeks on the job, Conahan takes the bait.
- 28:54Speaker 9: He made contact, he stopped, stopped his vehicle.
- 28:58Speaker 2: How are you gonna get good?
- 29:01Speaker 1: Good?
- 29:02Speaker 2: I'm Dan, Dan Conahan. Nice to meet to Dan.
- 29:05Speaker 17: He was eerie to me and I felt there was
- 29:09Speaker 17: something wrong with him.
- 29:10Speaker 9: What I didn't know?
- 29:11Speaker 7: Uh listen, if you're looking for work, I could probably
- 29:13Speaker 7: help you out.
- 29:15Speaker 15: Yeah, eh, well listen, it'd be uh well, basically it's at.
- 29:20Speaker 13: That point in time.
- 29:21Speaker 17: He says something to the effect that, well, there'd be
- 29:23Speaker 17: some progressive bondage shots. I don't know if you're into that.
- 29:27Speaker 17: And again I told him, all the money toss you
- 29:29Speaker 17: got the cash, I need it. You know, we'll try
- 29:32Speaker 17: it whatever, whatever it takes.
- 29:34Speaker 2: It's easy money. Sure, Yeah, all right?
- 29:38Speaker 13: Come on.
- 29:40Speaker 1: A cop drives into the Hog Trails with suspected serial
- 29:43Speaker 1: killer Daniel Conahan. Will he make it out alive? Five
- 29:54Speaker 1: corpses have been mutilated and abandoned in the Florida Woods.
- 29:58Speaker 1: After two and a half years of dead ends, police
- 30:01Speaker 1: have zeroed in on suspect Daniel Conahan. Now Conahan has
- 30:05Speaker 1: another victim in his car, but doesn't know it's undercover
- 30:09Speaker 1: cop Ray Weir.
- 30:10Speaker 17: I told him I was staying out back in the woods.
- 30:15Speaker 17: I told him to come out to my camp. I
- 30:17Speaker 17: go all the way out there, parked it. He parked
- 30:19Speaker 17: his car, walked up. I had a couple of chairs
- 30:21Speaker 17: set up and he sat down. We started talking.
- 30:26Speaker 5: So what are we going to take these pictures you
- 30:27Speaker 5: were talking about?
- 30:30Speaker 17: I don't know.
- 30:31Speaker 18: It sounds kind of.
- 30:32Speaker 9: Fun with the.
- 30:36Speaker 1: Conahan is also unaware that this location has been staked
- 30:39Speaker 1: out by police.
- 30:41Speaker 9: We had swat concealed in the woods.
- 30:51Speaker 5: They started getting at nervous and he was with that backpipe,
- 30:57Speaker 5: so they were watching that.
- 31:02Speaker 19: I had for my friends to find out about this,
- 31:05Speaker 19: you know, but I got to admit I I could
- 31:07Speaker 19: change that money.
- 31:10Speaker 6: It's not gonna hurt or anything.
- 31:11Speaker 2: Isn't gotta go.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Where you going.
- 31:22Speaker 5: I can't say why he called it off. I believe
- 31:26Speaker 5: is because he wasn't in control.
- 31:28Speaker 6: He wasn't in his element.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Authorities missed their best chance so far to catch Conahan
- 31:34Speaker 1: red handed, and they're running out of options. Surveillance of
- 31:39Speaker 1: this magnitude is too costly to sustain for long time.
- 31:43Speaker 5: For a new direction, just high Hand's been offering money,
- 31:50Speaker 5: So we get his financial records, we get his bank statements,
- 31:53Speaker 5: we get his credit card records. Now we started seeing
- 31:57Speaker 5: a series of perches of particular items wrote tape, tarps, film, knives, flyers,
- 32:11Speaker 5: and cameras, and there seemed to be intervals on these.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Purchases, intervals that coincide with the timelines of some of
- 32:21Speaker 1: the murders. Finally, police have the compelling connection they need
- 32:26Speaker 1: to execute a search warrant on Conahan's home.
- 32:32Speaker 20: First, we photograph, then we make a sketch of the area.
- 32:36Speaker 20: If we're going to do vacuum sweepings, which in this
- 32:38Speaker 20: case we did, that would be one of the first
- 32:39Speaker 20: things we would do.
- 32:44Speaker 8: We did see a backpack and found the backpack we
- 32:47Speaker 8: thought was significant that matched some of the description of
- 32:51Speaker 8: what we had seen during surveillance.
- 32:53Speaker 9: When he was coming to and from his vehicles. A
- 32:55Speaker 9: lot of times he would have this backpack.
- 32:57Speaker 1: The murder kit they hoped to find is not in
- 32:59Speaker 1: the back, but a number of suspicious objects are found
- 33:03Speaker 1: in the home.
- 33:04Speaker 4: We did find a knife, we did find some rope,
- 33:06Speaker 4: We did find some polaroid pictures and filmed.
- 33:08Speaker 2: We found the components, but they weren't in this bag.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Meanwhile, police intercept Conahan and bring him to a second
- 33:16Speaker 1: location for questioning.
- 33:19Speaker 21: Hi, how you doing?
- 33:22Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 33:23Speaker 2: How special agent for from the Governor's office. Do you
- 33:27Speaker 2: recognize this man? I've never seen that man before in
- 33:31Speaker 2: my life. You're quite sure about that, sir, c Well,
- 33:36Speaker 2: I just told you I've never seen him before.
- 33:38Speaker 11: You have a past record of history of a molestation
- 33:42Speaker 11: out in Chicago.
- 33:43Speaker 15: Can you explain that well, as a matter of fact,
- 33:46Speaker 15: I can't explain that that that all that involves a
- 33:51Speaker 15: misunderstanding within within an existing relationship.
- 33:55Speaker 10: And he was asked if he did the crime, if
- 33:59Speaker 10: he was there, if he knew the victims. He was
- 34:04Speaker 10: always on guard during the interview, very evasive in his answers.
- 34:10Speaker 10: Have you ever participated in body.
- 34:17Speaker 1: I with the magazines, I've seen some movies.
- 34:20Speaker 2: I have never taught anybody out of the very tally.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Re porter continues to press Conahan while the search team
- 34:27Speaker 1: descends on his blue Mercury Capri that.
- 34:29Speaker 9: Had a paint job that was peeling.
- 34:32Speaker 8: We took paint samplings from the chips, uh and then scrape.
- 34:37Speaker 6: Beings from the paint.
- 34:41Speaker 4: There was fibers found from his house and his car,
- 34:43Speaker 4: fibers that may be transferable to our victims.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Your picture's gonna be plastered over the paper. Now, what
- 34:52Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen with all the
- 34:55Speaker 2: people you may have come in contact with when they
- 34:58Speaker 2: call in and they say, yeah, we went.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Out of the woods.
- 35:02Speaker 10: He said he had a fantasy my photograph if we
- 35:06Speaker 10: did something.
- 35:06Speaker 20: Like that, Yeah, it won't look good.
- 35:10Speaker 16: It won't be good.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Mind arrest, How must to come ahead? You're free to go,
- 35:18Speaker 2: So I'm free to go, sir, Thank you very much, goodbye.
- 35:21Speaker 10: He was pleasant, cold, and calculating. The interview did not
- 35:29Speaker 10: seem to impress him very much.
- 35:32Speaker 1: The search of Conahan's home and vehicle yields several items
- 35:36Speaker 1: of interest, including unusual rope fibers police hope will match
- 35:40Speaker 1: those recovered from the crime scenes.
- 35:42Speaker 8: We did not find any evidence that would clearly identify
- 35:46Speaker 8: him as a person responsible for our crimes.
- 35:51Speaker 1: In this high stakes game of cat and mouse, the
- 35:55Speaker 1: mouse appears to be winning. Hobbs sends out a police
- 36:01Speaker 1: bulletin to all jurisdictions in Central Florida, describing the murders
- 36:06Speaker 1: and asking for any information that may help his case.
- 36:10Speaker 1: The bulletin catches the attention of Officer Pedro Soto. I'm
- 36:17Speaker 1: in awe.
- 36:18Speaker 9: I'm in shock. I'm looking at it. I'm going like,
- 36:20Speaker 9: oh my god.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Soto immediately contacts the Charlotte County Sheriff.
- 36:25Speaker 3: And I said, you know, this is amazing. I had
- 36:29Speaker 3: a crime scene just like this two years ago. You
- 36:31Speaker 3: guys know about it.
- 36:32Speaker 6: And I told him.
- 36:33Speaker 5: I said, well, I had sent out teletypes and phone calls.
- 36:36Speaker 5: Anybody'd had any similar similar desks, you know, give me
- 36:39Speaker 5: a call. He says, Oh, our guy didn't die, let
- 36:43Speaker 5: he lived.
- 36:43Speaker 6: I went watch.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Officer Soto tells Hobbes of the time he was called
- 36:50Speaker 1: to assist an assault victim who showed up at a
- 36:52Speaker 1: local hospital.
- 36:54Speaker 3: And he had obvious ligature marked around his neck, on
- 37:00Speaker 3: his arms and legs.
- 37:02Speaker 1: The victim, Stanley Burden, told Soto the chilling story of
- 37:06Speaker 1: a man in a blue capri.
- 37:08Speaker 3: The individual ask him if he could take naked photographs
- 37:12Speaker 3: of him tied to a tree for two hundred dollars.
- 37:16Speaker 3: Mister Burden agreed. When with the individual through the wooded area,
- 37:27Speaker 3: the individual then attempted to sudimize him. Mister Burden stated
- 37:34Speaker 3: that he resisted, I was steying. The individual got angry
- 37:39Speaker 3: at him.
- 37:44Speaker 1: An approaching car scared the assailant off, leaving Burden for dead.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Tied to a tree in the middle of nowhere.
- 37:54Speaker 3: He threw down a pair of flyers. Individual got into
- 37:58Speaker 3: his van and he drove a way. Mister Burden then
- 38:02Speaker 3: was able to get loose, reached for the pliers, cut
- 38:05Speaker 3: himself loose.
- 38:10Speaker 1: Burden ran out to the highway and flagged a ride
- 38:12Speaker 1: to the hospital. He was never able to give a
- 38:15Speaker 1: comprehensive description of his assailants.
- 38:18Speaker 3: They really weren't many avenues we could have follow in
- 38:22Speaker 3: terms of investigating the case.
- 38:23Speaker 1: That's as far as we could have gone. With nothing
- 38:28Speaker 1: more to go on, the unsolved crime went cold, was
- 38:32Speaker 1: filed unforgotten.
- 38:36Speaker 4: So given this new information from Detective Soto, he provided
- 38:39Speaker 4: us with the copies of the pictures and a copy
- 38:41Speaker 4: of the three report and gave us information on the
- 38:45Speaker 4: victim in that case, which turned out to be Stanley Burden.
- 38:48Speaker 4: We did a background on him to find out where
- 38:49Speaker 4: he was and he was incarcerated in Columbus, Ohio. He
- 38:54Speaker 4: was provided a photo lineup of Daniel Conahan in the
- 38:57Speaker 4: correctional institute where I interviewed him, and he immediately picked
- 39:01Speaker 4: him out without any hesitation whatsoever. He said, that is
- 39:03Speaker 4: a subject that did this to me. It's like getting
- 39:05Speaker 4: somebody off the autopsy table and telling you what happened
- 39:08Speaker 4: to him. That's exactly what this guy was.
- 39:09Speaker 18: He was somebody that should have been killed.
- 39:11Speaker 4: He should have been laying in the woods with the
- 39:12Speaker 4: bugs eating him, and here he was sitting here telling
- 39:14Speaker 4: us exactly what happened to him and how he got
- 39:15Speaker 4: Awakeness guy.
- 39:18Speaker 8: Daniel Conahan, you have the right to remain silent.
- 39:22Speaker 1: On July third, nineteen ninety six, Daniel Conahan is arrested
- 39:26Speaker 1: for the attempted murder of Stanley Burden.
- 39:29Speaker 12: Do you understand these rights that they've been read to you?
- 39:32Speaker 5: Yes, And there was no surprise on his face when
- 39:39Speaker 5: myself from Jim Myers walked in and I told him
- 39:42Speaker 5: he was underrest. They just got in the car on
- 39:46Speaker 5: the way we went.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Police have finally caught their killer, but there's no guarantee
- 39:54Speaker 1: they can bring him to justice. After thirty one months
- 40:05Speaker 1: of intense statewide investigation, police have arrested Daniel Conahan for
- 40:10Speaker 1: crimes against Stanley Burton.
- 40:13Speaker 6: We had a positive ida, we had a good statement,
- 40:15Speaker 6: we had.
- 40:17Speaker 5: The evidence from the crime scene, and ended up securing
- 40:21Speaker 5: an arrest warrant from mister Conahan attempt to murder sexual battery.
- 40:25Speaker 1: In Kinnappy, but with five men dead, investigators are determined
- 40:41Speaker 1: to nail Conahan for full blown homicide. Taking one last
- 40:45Speaker 1: look at the case forensics, they re examined hair combings
- 40:48Speaker 1: from Richard Montgomery's body and find something extraordinary.
- 40:53Speaker 8: There appeared to be a paint chip, a small piece
- 40:57Speaker 8: of paint chip that was in his puba care area,
- 41:00Speaker 8: a remaining pupic care.
- 41:02Speaker 9: Area owner his body that was sent off along with
- 41:07Speaker 9: the paint chips that we obtained.
- 41:09Speaker 8: From the Mercury Capri to the Florida Department of All
- 41:13Speaker 8: Law Enforcement Crime Laboratory for analysis.
- 41:21Speaker 9: See if that was a match.
- 41:24Speaker 8: From that sample taken from the pubic area of mister Montgomery.
- 41:28Speaker 8: Was that that match in all characteristics the paint standard
- 41:34Speaker 8: provided from the Mercury Caprix.
- 41:37Speaker 1: This final forensic piece of the puzzle allows prosecutors to
- 41:41Speaker 1: add a new charge against Conahan, the first degree murder
- 41:45Speaker 1: of Richard Montgomery. In court, Conahan vigorously insists he's innocent,
- 41:51Speaker 1: claiming that he's being real roaded simply because he's gay.
- 41:56Speaker 1: The prosecution's evidence accumulates quickly.
- 41:59Speaker 11: The area was quite densely woulded a mixture of scrub
- 42:02Speaker 11: brashdown the.
- 42:03Speaker 22: Badly decomposed body of adults male things that made him
- 42:07Speaker 22: very nervous, some rope tarp I believe a hunting knife
- 42:11Speaker 22: that he mentioned.
- 42:14Speaker 23: And as mister Conahan, the idea of a sexual sadist
- 42:17Speaker 23: is one who wraps.
- 42:18Speaker 1: And finally, for good measure, prosecutors bring out their smoking gun.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Mister Burdon, would you please show the courtroom your neck.
- 42:32Speaker 1: August seventeenth, nineteen ninety nine, after just twenty five minutes
- 42:36Speaker 1: of deliberation, Judge William Blackwell finds Daniel Conahan guilty of
- 42:41Speaker 1: kidnapping and first degree murder. He's sentenced to die. To
- 42:48Speaker 1: this day, Conahan insists he's innocent, but police are satisfied
- 42:54Speaker 1: they've got the right man. None of the photographs he's
- 42:59Speaker 1: believed to taken of his victims have ever been found.
- 43:03Speaker 10: You know, it's my opinion that Daniel connaugh hand doesn't
- 43:06Speaker 10: have a guilt feeling in his whole body. There is
- 43:11Speaker 10: no remorse. None has ever been shown that I'm aware of.
- 43:19Speaker 10: This is a man that enjoyed the pain, the suffering
- 43:24Speaker 10: and the death of other individuals, human beings. Why he
- 43:29Speaker 10: did this, I don't know if we'll ever know, And.
- 43:34Speaker 1: As Conahan sits on death row awaiting his fate, authorities
- 43:39Speaker 1: still wonder how many more victims are yet to be found.
- 43:44Speaker 1: Along the Hog Trails of Charlotte County, California is Just
- 44:00Speaker 1: National Park, a spectacular wildlife sanctuary that attracts millions of
- 44:05Speaker 1: nature lovers every year.
- 44:10Speaker 24: Nobody thinks bad things happen in places like.
- 44:13Speaker 1: This, but this year would prove otherwise. In February of
- 44:20Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, Carol's son, her daughter, and a family
- 44:24Speaker 1: friend visit Yosemite. Still they spend the fourteenth and fifteenth
- 44:34Speaker 1: hiking and seeing the sights, returning each night to their motel.
- 44:40Speaker 1: They are scheduled to meet up with Carol's husband the
- 44:43Speaker 1: morning of the sixteenth cod but they would never make it.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Three missing women.
- 45:01Speaker 13: Those as if they had fallen off the face of
- 45:03Speaker 13: the area, a death research.
- 45:06Speaker 23: There were no clear clues as to what had happened
- 45:08Speaker 23: to these people.
- 45:10Speaker 1: A disappearance that shocks America.
- 45:15Speaker 24: It's probably the strangest and one of the most chilling
- 45:19Speaker 24: cases I've ever covered in my twenty years as a journalist.
- 45:23Speaker 1: It puts police on the trail of a master manipulator
- 45:26Speaker 1: determined to outsmart them. Carol's son, her fifteen year old
- 46:16Speaker 1: daughter Julie, and family friend Sylvina Paloso have failed to
- 46:20Speaker 1: show up for a rendezvous with Carol's husband ends at
- 46:24Speaker 1: the San Francisco Airport.
- 46:29Speaker 24: Carol's son was the type of person who kept to
- 46:32Speaker 24: a very strict calendar. She was someone who was always
- 46:35Speaker 24: on time where she was supposed to be when she
- 46:37Speaker 24: was supposed to be there.
- 46:45Speaker 1: The anxious husband and father calls room five oh nine
- 46:49Speaker 1: of the Cedar Lodge motel where the women were staying.
- 46:59Speaker 1: After failed attempts to reach them, He contacts local authorities.
- 47:08Speaker 13: The hotel room was found in a typical state of
- 47:12Speaker 13: someone who left their hotel room that had two double beds,
- 47:16Speaker 13: and the double beds had appeared to be slept in
- 47:19Speaker 13: and unmade. There were bath towels that were wet and
- 47:22Speaker 13: used on the floor and on the rack. There was
- 47:25Speaker 13: nothing really remarkable about the room.
- 47:31Speaker 1: Investigators quickly discovered that Carol's son's rental car is gone
- 47:37Speaker 1: and it hasn't been returned to the agency. Police have
- 47:44Speaker 1: room five h nine sealed as a precaution but with
- 47:48Speaker 1: no apparent signs of foul play, they consider other possibilities.
- 47:53Speaker 18: The theory that was most predominant would be they had
- 47:58Speaker 18: a car accident.
- 48:00Speaker 24: It was wintertime, the roads were slick, there had been snow.
- 48:07Speaker 25: We have had numerous vehicles that have gone off our roadways.
- 48:12Speaker 25: We have had several deaths, so that is a very
- 48:16Speaker 25: realistic possibility.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Agencies across the state joined forces to scour the vast
- 48:22Speaker 1: forested area around Yosemite. At the same time, police visit mister.
- 48:27Speaker 18: Son aast have a few questions about you.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Investigators press Son for any information that might help explain
- 48:37Speaker 1: his wife's disappearance.
- 48:39Speaker 18: No problems, no quarrels.
- 48:41Speaker 1: Could marital difficulties lie at the heart of things, police
- 48:50Speaker 1: think not.
- 48:51Speaker 23: There was not a lot of weight given to the
- 48:54Speaker 23: possibility that Carol would have simply disappeared of her own accord,
- 48:58Speaker 23: in part because she was traveling with the two girls,
- 49:00Speaker 23: and she had left behind her other children with YenS,
- 49:03Speaker 23: and everything that we were learning about Carol suggested that
- 49:06Speaker 23: she was a dedicated mother and a responsible person.
- 49:15Speaker 1: With the clock ticking and still no sign of Carol's
- 49:18Speaker 1: son's car, police worry about finding the women in time.
- 49:23Speaker 18: It was just a dramatic, intense need to find these
- 49:27Speaker 18: people before something you know, permanent, had happened to them.
- 49:33Speaker 24: Days had passed and there had been large search parties
- 49:37Speaker 24: searching for any clues, and nothing was coming up.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Could something have been missed at the Cedar Lodge? The
- 49:47Speaker 1: FBI takes charge of the case, sending special agents Chris
- 49:52Speaker 1: Hopkins and Jeff Reinick to visit the motel together. Did
- 50:00Speaker 1: they assess Room five oh nine.
- 50:03Speaker 13: We had a missing blanket, a missing pillowcase, items left
- 50:08Speaker 13: behind in the rooms, but we didn't find any significant
- 50:12Speaker 13: evidence to say this is in fact a crime scene.
- 50:18Speaker 1: The FBI now turns its attention to guests and staff.
- 50:23Speaker 23: We were working at the Cedar Lodge, interviewing employees, interviewing
- 50:28Speaker 23: hotel guests, trying to do the best thing could to
- 50:31Speaker 23: find out whether or not anything had happened there.
- 50:33Speaker 1: Do you remember anything from these interviews? Agent Nick Rossi
- 50:37Speaker 1: pieces together a rough timeline. A park ranger remembers seeing
- 50:44Speaker 1: the women over the course of two days. They appeared
- 50:48Speaker 1: to be having a great time.
- 50:51Speaker 23: They had their first excursion in the park on February fourteenth.
- 50:56Speaker 23: They returned to the park on February fifteenth.
- 50:59Speaker 13: We had witnesses at the Cedar Lodge that saw them
- 51:02Speaker 13: eating their dinner there on February fifteenth.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Do you remember the waitresses served them? Recalls the trio
- 51:09Speaker 1: was in high spirits.
- 51:11Speaker 16: Hi go Hi.
- 51:12Speaker 13: The family also rented two videos from the front desk.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome.
- 51:17Speaker 23: And the last time they were seen alive was said
- 51:20Speaker 23: approximately seven thirty or so in the evening on February fifteenth.
- 51:30Speaker 1: For all the FBI's questions, no unusual behavior, strange encounters,
- 51:35Speaker 1: or anything untoward concerning the women is reported. Then agents
- 51:41Speaker 1: learned that someone besides Carol's son had access to room
- 51:45Speaker 1: five oh nine before she and the girls disappeared. They
- 51:49Speaker 1: take the motel locksmith into custody.
- 51:52Speaker 23: They had re keyed the locks on the door for
- 51:55Speaker 23: Carol's hotel room. This individual had him brother who worked
- 52:03Speaker 23: at another nearby hotel, who had a prior conviction for
- 52:08Speaker 23: sexual assault on children.
- 52:12Speaker 1: The employee claims his innocence and agrees to a polygraph.
- 52:16Speaker 1: While it's being administered, Hopkins pays a second visit to
- 52:19Speaker 1: the motel.
- 52:25Speaker 13: And again we didn't find any significant evidence.
- 52:29Speaker 1: The room is clean, maybe too clean, and when the
- 52:34Speaker 1: polygraph reveals no evidence of deceit. Agents are forced to
- 52:39Speaker 1: release their first and only suspect.
- 52:44Speaker 13: After February fifteenth, there was no established timeline. It was
- 52:49Speaker 13: as if they had fallen off the face.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Of the earth.
- 52:52Speaker 1: Authorities find themselves back at square one, unaware that the
- 52:59Speaker 1: case is about to take an alarming turn. Carol's son,
- 53:15Speaker 1: her daughter Julie, and family friend Sylvina Paloso have been
- 53:18Speaker 1: missing for three days. Search Base Team six search and
- 53:23Speaker 1: rescue operations have yielded nothing, nor has an FBI investigation
- 53:28Speaker 1: into possible foul flight. But now one hundred miles away
- 53:36Speaker 1: in the city of Modesto, the case is turned on
- 53:39Speaker 1: its head when a student finds a wallet at a
- 53:42Speaker 1: downtown intersection inside is ID belonging to Carol's son.
- 53:51Speaker 23: Once the wallet was found in Modesto, it opened a
- 53:55Speaker 23: whole new range of possibilities, everything from a possible car
- 54:00Speaker 23: jacking to a kidnapping. There were lots of different theories
- 54:04Speaker 23: about what may have happened.
- 54:08Speaker 1: Theories collide with reality when a car is pulled over
- 54:12Speaker 1: for a missing license plate. The vehicle belongs to Modesto
- 54:17Speaker 1: resident Michael Larwick.
- 54:27Speaker 23: It was a routine traffic stop, and the question that
- 54:32Speaker 23: it begs is why did Larwick react the way he did.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Larwick is arrested after an eighteen hours standoff at his house,
- 54:51Speaker 1: and while he's in custody, police receive an anonymous.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Tip Yeah Russia.
- 54:58Speaker 1: The caller tells them to take a close look at
- 55:00Speaker 1: Larwick and his half brother Eugene Dikes in connection with
- 55:04Speaker 1: the sun Puloso disappearance.
- 55:06Speaker 18: And they were very good suspects. They had a lot
- 55:08Speaker 18: of assaults, they had a lot of sexual assaults, kidnappings.
- 55:12Speaker 23: Mister Dikes was in custody at the time that Mick
- 55:15Speaker 23: Larwick was engaged in his shootout with police because he
- 55:19Speaker 23: had just recently been arrested for possession of a firearm.
- 55:25Speaker 18: So they fit all the criteria that this investigation originally needed.
- 55:30Speaker 1: The investigation suddenly has two prime suspects. I need to
- 55:35Speaker 1: know where these women are. Larwick and Dykes are subjected
- 55:38Speaker 1: to NonStop interrogation by FBI agent. We're desperate to find.
- 55:42Speaker 12: The women alive and you don't know anything about it.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Larwick is uncooperative, No, I don't remember, and denies any involved.
- 55:49Speaker 24: That's not good enough.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Now where are they? But after hours of grilling, Dyke
- 55:55Speaker 1: starts telling a different story where.
- 55:59Speaker 18: That's when Dyke's first began speaking of what he claimed
- 56:04Speaker 18: was his involvement.
- 56:05Speaker 9: In this case.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Eventually, Dike signs a confession admitting his participation in the
- 56:12Speaker 1: women's disappearance. But what he doesn't tell investigators is what
- 56:19Speaker 1: they most want to know. Where is the missing mother
- 56:25Speaker 1: and two teenage girls.
- 56:30Speaker 9: Post Law.
- 56:33Speaker 1: Agent Hopkins vacuums Larwick's car looking for physical evidence tying
- 56:37Speaker 1: the half brothers to the crime.
- 56:41Speaker 13: The FBI laboratory found Harrison fibers, one of which was
- 56:45Speaker 13: an orange chrolic fiber.
- 56:49Speaker 1: Unfortunately, no matching hairs or fibers are recovered from room
- 56:53Speaker 1: five h nine of the Cedar Lodge. Then, on March eighteenth,
- 57:01Speaker 1: one hundred miles away from Modesto, in remote woods beyond
- 57:05Speaker 1: the town of Longbarn, a hiker makes a chilling discovery.
- 57:11Speaker 25: He noticed that the vehicle was badly burned, but he
- 57:15Speaker 25: went down and got the license plate from the vehicle
- 57:19Speaker 25: and called it into the California Highway Patrol. Then ran
- 57:23Speaker 25: the license plate and immediately realized it was Carol's son's
- 57:27Speaker 25: missing vehicle.
- 57:32Speaker 13: There was no original surface remaining on the car. On
- 57:35Speaker 13: the interior of the car and the exterior of the car,
- 57:39Speaker 13: all the paint had boiled off and rolled off the
- 57:42Speaker 13: frame of the car. The seats had all been burnt up.
- 57:47Speaker 13: I could see through the passenger compartment into the trunk compartment.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Let's try and get in the trunk.
- 57:57Speaker 13: And mucallin opening the truck that we had remains of
- 58:01Speaker 13: human beings.
- 58:06Speaker 1: Destraught. When they discover charred remains in the trunk of
- 58:10Speaker 1: carol Son's rental car.
- 58:15Speaker 25: I have seen lots of burned bodies, but I have
- 58:18Speaker 25: not seen anything to the extent that was involved in
- 58:23Speaker 25: this case.
- 58:26Speaker 9: There was not a lot left.
- 58:27Speaker 25: It wasn't like looking at a normal body that you
- 58:30Speaker 25: would find because the intense heat had destroyed most of
- 58:35Speaker 25: the body.
- 58:36Speaker 13: It was clear that we have a homicide case working out.
- 58:42Speaker 1: Authorities want answers. The car itself offers the first disturbing clue.
- 58:50Speaker 13: We could tell that this vehicle was intended to be burned.
- 58:55Speaker 13: The passenger rear door was left a jar so that
- 58:59Speaker 13: it would create event so that it would help oxygenate
- 59:04Speaker 13: the fire.
- 59:06Speaker 23: They had placed the bodies in the truck. They had
- 59:08Speaker 23: taken the effort to douse the car with some kind
- 59:11Speaker 23: of flammable material and then set in a blaze.
- 59:20Speaker 13: The heat of the fire was so intense that picking
- 59:22Speaker 13: up some of their remains, their skeletal remains, the bones
- 59:26Speaker 13: would just turned to dust in our hands.
- 59:34Speaker 1: As the investigation continues in the field, the remains arrive
- 59:38Speaker 1: at the morgue for positive identification. Pathologists analyze the many fragments,
- 59:44Speaker 1: paying special attention to the teeth we.
- 59:48Speaker 13: Had already in our possession. The dental records were Carol
- 59:51Speaker 13: and Julie's sun. We took the dental records to a
- 59:55Speaker 13: forensical ontologist and the forensicalontologists identified one of our victims
- 1:00:00Speaker 13: was Carol's son.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: Forensic experts also have the means to identify Sylvina Paloso.
- 1:00:10Speaker 25: We had DNA samples taken from her parents. They had
- 1:00:14Speaker 25: come had flown up to our area.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: Authorities at the crime scene retrieved some evidence when they
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: find a girl's running shoot and something even more compelling.
- 1:00:30Speaker 13: In doing the search around the vehicle, we found additional
- 1:00:32Speaker 13: evidence to include Carol's purse and her fanny pack that
- 1:00:36Speaker 13: had cameras in it.
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: Investigators puzzle over their killer's profile. Was he sloppy or devious?
- 1:00:44Speaker 23: This was a person who had gone to some lengths
- 1:00:47Speaker 23: to destroy evidence of their crime. And yet this was
- 1:00:52Speaker 23: someone who had not gone to the pains of collecting
- 1:00:56Speaker 23: and destroying other evidence that was found nearby.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: But all speculation is set aside when word comes back
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: from the morgue. It turns out only two of the
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: victims were in the car. Julie's sun is still on account.
- 1:01:14Speaker 18: Knowing that she may be alive and in pain or suffering.
- 1:01:19Speaker 18: I don't know how to describe what it does to you.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Every available police resource is put towards finding the fifteen
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: year old girl.
- 1:01:32Speaker 23: We were still holding on to that slim string of
- 1:01:35Speaker 23: hope that she might be found alive.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: Agents used the detail that the torch car was found
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: in such a remote location to try and zero in
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: on the killer's mo and.
- 1:01:48Speaker 23: The fact that they had destroyed their means of transportation
- 1:01:53Speaker 23: suggested to us that there may have been some other vehicle.
- 1:01:57Speaker 23: That of course suggested the possibility that there may have
- 1:01:59Speaker 23: been one person, someone to drive the victim's car and
- 1:02:04Speaker 23: set out a blaze, and someone else to follow and
- 1:02:07Speaker 23: provide a getaway. It suggested this was someone who knew
- 1:02:11Speaker 23: the area.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: The prime suspects fit the bill precisely.
- 1:02:17Speaker 23: We learned that Larwick had actually resided not far from
- 1:02:22Speaker 23: the location where the victim's car had been found. In fact,
- 1:02:24Speaker 23: he had committed a crime not far from where the
- 1:02:29Speaker 23: victim's car had been found, and so there were little
- 1:02:31Speaker 23: pieces of information that they may have been involved.
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: But despite relentless interrogation, which results in statements from Dykes
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: that he participated in the murders, FEDS can't get anything
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: concrete out of their prisoners that's not true. Then, on
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: March twenty fourth, a letter postmarked shortly after the women's disappearance,
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: arrives at FBI headquarters. It contains a map and distressing message.
- 1:03:02Speaker 23: We had fun with this one, I mean the statement
- 1:03:07Speaker 23: itself is one of those that makes you sick to hear,
- 1:03:10Speaker 23: and it suggested that this was someone who took some
- 1:03:14Speaker 23: satisfaction in their crime.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: The map leads to a remote overlook known as Vista Point,
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: only a short drive from the Cedar Lodge motel. It's
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: here that the investigator's worst fears are realized.
- 1:03:36Speaker 13: We went down the hill to recover julie'sun's body. She
- 1:03:41Speaker 13: was naked other than a two inch black duct tape
- 1:03:46Speaker 13: wrapped around her left ankle. The duct type indicates that
- 1:03:51Speaker 13: this victim had been bound up with the duct tape
- 1:03:54Speaker 13: and kept hostage her heroes fanned out. Her right leg
- 1:03:59Speaker 13: was spread apart from her left leg, and her left
- 1:04:02Speaker 13: leg was bent forward, and her hands were crossed over
- 1:04:05Speaker 13: her chest.
- 1:04:07Speaker 18: It appeared that she had been posed, and a person
- 1:04:12Speaker 18: who has been posed in death by an offender indicates
- 1:04:16Speaker 18: an offender who sexually motivated and who has a fantasy
- 1:04:20Speaker 18: which is very dangerous for other people.
- 1:04:24Speaker 13: There was a very large lava mass on Julie's neck,
- 1:04:28Speaker 13: which indicated to me immediately as her neck had been cut.
- 1:04:33Speaker 24: When they discovered Julie's body, it became even more sinister
- 1:04:38Speaker 24: than everybody originally thought. I mean, it was horrible when
- 1:04:43Speaker 24: they found Carol and Salvina their charred remains in the
- 1:04:47Speaker 24: trunk of their rental car, But when they found Julie
- 1:04:50Speaker 24: in the position she was, I think people started thinking
- 1:04:53Speaker 24: serial killer, started thinking, you know, this is just a
- 1:04:57Speaker 24: crime that's bigger than we ever thought.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: The forensic analysis of the crime scene provides investigators with
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: a surprising piece of material.
- 1:05:06Speaker 13: That orange crolic fiber was on Julie's son's.
- 1:05:10Speaker 23: Body consistent with originating from the same source as fibers
- 1:05:15Speaker 23: that were found among the belongings of Larwick and Dykes.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Authorities finally have physical evidence linking the half brothers to
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: the son Paloso murders. Tying them to the anonymous letter
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: will seal their fate.
- 1:05:32Speaker 13: The fingerprint expert found what he thought was a right
- 1:05:37Speaker 13: thumb partial print on the stamp that overlapped onto the envelope.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: But their attempt to connect the partial print to Larwick
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: or Dyke's fails. No match is found. FBI DNA expert
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: Melissa Smears now extracts DNA from saliva on the envelope seal.
- 1:05:58Speaker 20: With regards to the DNA that was attained on the
- 1:06:00Speaker 20: envelope in this case, I was able to determine that
- 1:06:03Speaker 20: male DNA was present.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: She compares this DNA with samples taken from the half brothers,
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: but once again investigators received shocking news it doesn't match
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: either one of them. The weight of the evidence now
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: suggests that police have been focused on the wrong suspects.
- 1:06:28Speaker 18: I believe they were playing with the people that were
- 1:06:31Speaker 18: investigating them, and they both got really good treatment for
- 1:06:35Speaker 18: at least ten weeks while they were being interviewed and reinterviewed,
- 1:06:40Speaker 18: and took an opportunity to send authority on a wild
- 1:06:43Speaker 18: goose chase and had a good time doing it.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: That means a killer may still be out there. Three
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: women have been brutally murdered near Yosemite National Park, and
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: the case police have built against their prime suspects, Michael
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: Larwick and Eugene Dykes falters when compelling forensic evidence much
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: suggests some other killer investigators pour over the case looking
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: for new leads. Jeff Reinick turns to the role of
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: film found near Carol's sons burnt out rental car, hoping
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: to learn more about how the women spent their final hours.
- 1:07:41Speaker 18: The photos were of Julie and Sylvina being girls, and
- 1:07:46Speaker 18: Carol being there as the parents enjoying this moment with
- 1:07:52Speaker 18: their daughter and her friend.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: But of greater interest to Reinick is the time stamps
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: on the back of the pictures, especially the last one.
- 1:08:03Speaker 23: Those roles of film allowed us to say, you know,
- 1:08:06Speaker 23: with relative certainty that they had been alive and well
- 1:08:09Speaker 23: and in their room at roughly ten thirty in the
- 1:08:12Speaker 23: evening on February fifteenth.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Authorities re examined the victim's remains in a frantic search
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: for answers. Remarkably, Carol's son's stomach survived the fire.
- 1:08:29Speaker 13: They found evidence of starchy material broccoli cauliflower, which was
- 1:08:34Speaker 13: very interesting because we knew on February fifteenth that evening
- 1:08:38Speaker 13: that eaten a meal at the Cedar Lodge, and Carol
- 1:08:42Speaker 13: had ordered a vegetarian burrito. The stomach contents suggested to
- 1:08:47Speaker 13: me that carolsn met with her death within hours after
- 1:08:52Speaker 13: eating the burrito that she had purchased.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: Investigators realized that Carol at least met her death at
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: or in close proximity to the Cedar Launch. They immediately
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: returned to the motel and soon have a new suspect
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: in custody.
- 1:09:14Speaker 23: It was the night cleaning man at the hotel's restaurant.
- 1:09:20Speaker 23: He had come on duty late the night that the
- 1:09:22Speaker 23: victims were last seen alive and really had no one
- 1:09:26Speaker 23: who could account for his whereabouts late that evening until
- 1:09:31Speaker 23: early the next morning. A search that was done of
- 1:09:35Speaker 23: his workplace revealed two laundry bags that tested positive for blood.
- 1:09:45Speaker 18: He was very adversarial, very belligerent, very uncooperative with law enforcement.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: Authorities. Are finally closing in on their killer, or so
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: they think. On the morning of July twenty second, a
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: Yosemite Park ranger stops by the cabin of twenty six
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: year old Joey Armstrong after friends reported her failure to
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: meet them the previous evening.
- 1:10:26Speaker 13: Inside the cabin, she could see that a tremendous struggle
- 1:10:29Speaker 13: took place.
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: Investigators recover fingerprints and trace evidence, but it's the area
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: outside Armstrong's cabin that offers the most intriguing clues.
- 1:10:51Speaker 13: We identified tire tread marks and shoe wear impressions in
- 1:10:55Speaker 13: the sand.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: Mark Fincher mixed drawings of the two distinct tire treads
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: found at the scene. He also notes a clear impression
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: of a man's sandal. The depth and trajectory of the
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: footprint impressions suggest that Joey was dragged to a nearby vehicle.
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: As they follow the tire tracks, investigators encounter more scuffed footprints,
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: indicating that someone had exited the vehicle and been dragged away.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: The prints continued to a nearby creek, where a grizzly
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: find awaits.
- 1:11:48Speaker 13: And she had been placed up against the reeds and
- 1:11:52Speaker 13: concealed with vegetation. It struck me immediately that the position
- 1:11:58Speaker 13: of her body was almost identical as the position that
- 1:12:02Speaker 13: we recovered Julie Sunden.
- 1:12:05Speaker 23: It triggered a concern, a fear that perhaps these cases
- 1:12:08Speaker 23: may be connected.
- 1:12:10Speaker 13: There was evidence of a sexual assault, or pants had
- 1:12:14Speaker 13: been unbuttoned and on zipped, her shirt had been pulled up.
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: Most shocking of all is that Joey Armstrong has been decapitated.
- 1:12:26Speaker 24: Joey Armstrong was a naturalist, and she took young children
- 1:12:30Speaker 24: who were visiting the park on nature hikes and taught
- 1:12:33Speaker 24: them about the plants and the animals.
- 1:12:37Speaker 9: I was dumbstruck.
- 1:12:38Speaker 23: I mean I was devastated and this was another tragic crime.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Authorities scour the crime scene vicinity for possible witnesses. A
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: park ranger soon encounters a man lounging in the sun.
- 1:12:55Speaker 23: At that point in time, Joey's head, as sad as
- 1:12:59Speaker 23: it sounds, had not yet been found.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: There was some.
- 1:13:03Speaker 23: Suspicion that he was hiding some evidence in his backpack.
- 1:13:07Speaker 24: Would you mind if I had a look in your backpack?
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: I would prefer if you didn't.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: The man's reluctance causes the ranger to bring him in
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: for questions.
- 1:13:17Speaker 6: Here, thank you.
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: He has identified as Cedar Lodge handyman Kerry Stainer. Nothing
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: of significance is found in Stainer's backpack, which leads law
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: enforcement wondering why he didn't consent to an earlier search.
- 1:13:39Speaker 23: He acknowledged that he had been in the park, but
- 1:13:42Speaker 23: he denied being in the area of the crime scene.
- 1:13:45Speaker 23: He denied having any contact with Joey Armstrong. He provided
- 1:13:50Speaker 23: an explanation of what he had been doing in the park.
- 1:13:53Speaker 13: We asked him, will you voluntarily give us a DNA sample?
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: And he comply. While Stayner's interview continues, takes a precautionary measure.
- 1:14:03Speaker 13: I dispatched a couple FBI agents to go take polaroid
- 1:14:07Speaker 13: pictures of the tire tread impressions of carry Stanner's jeep.
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: With nothing to hold him, the handyman is released. Meanwhile,
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: the search for Joey Armstrong's head reaches a grim conclusion.
- 1:14:32Speaker 13: I didn't know what to read into that. I didn't
- 1:14:34Speaker 13: know if this person was trying to inhibit us our
- 1:14:38Speaker 13: ability to identify who the victim was and place the
- 1:14:41Speaker 13: head in a different location. I didn't know what to
- 1:14:44Speaker 13: make of it.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: Another woman dead and a killer still on the loose.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: Can police catch him before he strikes again? Five months
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: after three sites are found dead outside of Yosemite Park,
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: twenty six year old naturalist Joey Armstrong. The investigation continues
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: on several fronts, but when Nick Rossi decides to ask
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: Cedar Lodge handyman Carrie Stainer some more questions, he receives
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: strange news. I don't know what to say. First time
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: in two years he's missed a day of work. The
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: motel manager takes Rossi to Stayner's apartment, but Stayner is gone,
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: along with most of his possessions. A lookout bulletin is
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: issued for the handyman as a material witnessing the Joey
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Armstrong case. Authority soon get a hit.
- 1:15:58Speaker 23: A woman who was staying at Laguna del Soul, which
- 1:16:01Speaker 23: is a resort south of Sacramento, recognized Stayner and she
- 1:16:06Speaker 23: called the Sacramento office.
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: In the FBI, Special Agent Ryanick is dispatched to bring
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: the witness in.
- 1:16:13Speaker 18: Mister Stayner, and as soon as Carrie was aware I
- 1:16:19Speaker 18: was there, he stood up and put his hands on
- 1:16:21Speaker 18: his head, which does not normal behavior for a citizen.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: Given Stayner's odd reaction, Rhynick cuffs him as a precaution,
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: and while the agent transports Stainer back to headquarters. Hopkins
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: studies tire tread indents, so.
- 1:16:43Speaker 13: He had compared the sketch of the tire tread impressions
- 1:16:47Speaker 13: in front of the cabin with the polaroid pictures taken
- 1:16:49Speaker 13: from the tires on Stayner's jeep.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: What are showing you our pictures of tire treads?
- 1:17:08Speaker 13: The two front tires and Stainer's cheep did not match
- 1:17:12Speaker 13: the back two tires of his cheap But yet we
- 1:17:14Speaker 13: had both of those tires at that crime scene, and
- 1:17:18Speaker 13: he was telling investigators he'd never been there.
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: Can I see one of your sandals place?
- 1:17:30Speaker 6: Sure?
- 1:17:33Speaker 13: Once we asked for his sandals, he knew that he
- 1:17:37Speaker 13: left impression evidence behind. He knew that we were going
- 1:17:41Speaker 13: to be able to forensically demonstrate that he was there
- 1:17:44Speaker 13: and he was the one responsible for killing Joey Armstrong.
- 1:17:51Speaker 18: When he asked to speak to me alone, you know,
- 1:17:53Speaker 18: I guess you could say something was up.
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: Faced with the evidence, Stainer confesses to them. He also
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: tells Ryannick exactly what happened.
- 1:18:08Speaker 16: Excuse me, I'm just getting ready to go.
- 1:18:11Speaker 13: Okay, Kry Stainer was in a real rush to try
- 1:18:26Speaker 13: to remove her out of the cabin into his jeep
- 1:18:29Speaker 13: and move her out.
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: Of the area, but Joey Armstrong resistant even managed to
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: escape from the moving vehicle, but Stainer caught her and
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: subdued her.
- 1:18:41Speaker 23: Joey fought fiercely against Stayner and basically forced him to
- 1:18:47Speaker 23: kill her at that scene rather than transporting her far away.
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: The handyman and is officially charged with the Armstrong homicide.
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: Now the FBI wants him for three more.
- 1:19:08Speaker 23: He was implicating himself not only in Joey's death, but
- 1:19:12Speaker 23: possibly also in the Sunned Puloso homicides.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: Back to the forensics, Stainer's DNA is compared to saliva
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: from the anonymous letter that led police to Julie Sound. Incredibly,
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: no match is found. Have they got the wrong man again?
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: Hopkins pays yet another visit to room five oh nine
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: of the Cedar Lodge, now looking for any trace of
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: Carrie Stainer, but none is present. Everything comes down to
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: the partial print lifted from the anonymous letter's stamp.
- 1:19:50Speaker 13: The fingerprint examiner compared those known fingerprints with that partial
- 1:19:55Speaker 13: fingerprint found on the stamp, and there was a match.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: Now forensically tied to the murders of Carol, Julie and Sylvena.
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: Stayner realizes he's reached the end of his road. He
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: opens up to Agent Reinick about a lifetime of twisted desires.
- 1:20:18Speaker 18: He said, I'm a bad person. I've done some bad things.
- 1:20:21Speaker 18: He has had devious sexual drive for quite a while.
- 1:20:25Speaker 23: From the time that he was young, it had been
- 1:20:28Speaker 23: important to him to try to control women. Mastery over
- 1:20:33Speaker 23: them was central to his fantasies about killing and sexual assault.
- 1:20:40Speaker 18: He recognized his fantasy, he decided he was going to
- 1:20:43Speaker 18: say it through, and he did.
- 1:20:49Speaker 23: He talked about other guests at the hotel that he
- 1:20:51Speaker 23: chose not to attack because he thought they might have
- 1:20:54Speaker 23: a man with them.
- 1:21:00Speaker 12: Good evening, ma'am, my maintenance, we're having a water leak problem.
- 1:21:05Speaker 2: May I commit?
- 1:21:06Speaker 23: He desensitized the victims to his approach by knocking on
- 1:21:11Speaker 23: adjacent doors and hollering maintenance and going in and sort
- 1:21:14Speaker 23: of making noises, so that by the time he reached
- 1:21:17Speaker 23: their door it would seem more routine.
- 1:21:20Speaker 12: I don't know, it's a little late for maintenance work.
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: Is there no problem? I'll go get the management if
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: that makes.
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: You feel better, No fine, come in grit thanks.
- 1:21:29Speaker 18: And that began an unbelievable tragedy.
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: Everybody freeze, don't make a sound, let out, don't look
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: at me Stayiner binds all three women with duck games.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: He puts Julie and Sylvina in the bathroom, leaving Carol's
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: son on the bed.
- 1:21:49Speaker 13: Carol Son was killed. Initially, he strangled her and placed
- 1:21:53Speaker 13: her in the trunk.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: Stainer next brings Sylvina Paloso out to the bed. She
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: makes so much noise he becomes afraid of detection it, and.
- 1:22:05Speaker 13: He subsequently killed Savina Peloso and plays her in the
- 1:22:12Speaker 13: trunk of the car.
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: Julie's sun is now the only one alive.
- 1:22:18Speaker 13: For some weird reason, he developed quite an affinity for Julia.
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: First, Stainer assaults her, then he wraps her in a blanket,
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: puts her in the car, and drives her to the
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: secluded shores of Don Pedro Lake.
- 1:22:40Speaker 18: He wants to fantasize, if you will, that they have
- 1:22:43Speaker 18: a relationship, and he convinced himself that she loved him
- 1:22:50Speaker 18: and he loved her, and he holds to that till
- 1:22:54Speaker 18: the end.
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: The FBI finally has the man responsible for Yosemite's reign
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: of terror.
- 1:23:13Speaker 24: Stayner was the proverbial boy next door, good looking and unassuming,
- 1:23:20Speaker 24: not the typical person you would suspect of being a killer.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: The remaining question is how he kept authorities off his
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: trail for so long. Cedar Lodge handyman Carrie Stainer is
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: the confessed killer of Carol and Julie sund Silvina Paloso,
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: and Joey Armstrong. He now tells federal agents how he
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: always planned to outsmart them.
- 1:23:49Speaker 13: Carry Stanner had fantasized about doing this event and all
- 1:23:53Speaker 13: the different types of forensic evidence investigators use to associate
- 1:23:57Speaker 13: an offender to a crime scene.
- 1:23:58Speaker 23: And he used that knowledge to basically manipulate evidence and
- 1:24:03Speaker 23: create misleading clues for the team investigating this case.
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: After killing Julie and leaving her at the lake, Stayner
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: sets out to lead authorities far away from his crimes.
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: He drives one hundred miles to Longbarn and ditches the
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: rental car with the bodies of Carol and Silvina inside.
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: He then hikes to a main road. He catches a
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: cab back to the Cedar Lodge and thoroughly cleans Room
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: five oh nine.
- 1:24:34Speaker 24: He left all kinds of signs that the women had
- 1:24:38Speaker 24: left that morning and were taking their drive as planned.
- 1:24:42Speaker 24: He had gotten rid of any kind of evidence that
- 1:24:46Speaker 24: this had been a room where two killings had taken
- 1:24:50Speaker 24: place and a girl had been sexually assaulted for hours.
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: He informs investigators that he shaved his body before he
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: struck in order to leave fewer traces behind. Two days
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: after the murders, he returns to Longbarn in his own vehicle,
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: places the women's belongings in the rental car, and destroys
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: the efforts, but he keeps a few select items for
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: his next trick. One hundred miles away in Modesto, he.
- 1:25:30Speaker 18: Took many of the possessions of Carrel, Slovina and Julie
- 1:25:34Speaker 18: and dumped them in Medesto.
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: This effort to fool police gets a major boost when
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: Dyke's in Larwick. The perfect suspects happened to pick up
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: Carol's son's wallet and take the clothes to sell on
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: the street. The garments are never recovered, but the orange
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: fibers from Julie's shirt found in the car help incriminate
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: the pair. Hearing about their arrests on the news, Stainer
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: writes the taunting letter to suggest that more than one
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: killer is involved in the crime.
- 1:26:09Speaker 23: He knew that we could extract DNA from things like
- 1:26:13Speaker 23: envelopes and the flap used to seal it.
- 1:26:15Speaker 13: Envelope, So he went down in the dusk stop and
- 1:26:20Speaker 13: found a little Hispanic boy and paid this little Hispanic
- 1:26:23Speaker 13: boy five dollars to spit in a cup.
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: He then uses the boys saliva to seal the envelope.
- 1:26:31Speaker 23: He showed considerable intelligence and considerable planning in the way
- 1:26:37Speaker 23: that he concealed the crime and planted false evidence.
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: Confident he can get away with murder, Stayner chooses Joey
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: Armstrong as his next victim, but things go wrong this
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: time when Armstrong's brave struggle throws a cycle path off
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: his game.
- 1:26:58Speaker 18: Joey Armstrong's for life, her willingness to fight to have
- 1:27:03Speaker 18: life is I believe what caused him to leave the
- 1:27:08Speaker 18: evidence behind.
- 1:27:12Speaker 13: He wanted to go back to that crime scene and
- 1:27:14Speaker 13: try to destroy a lot of that evidence and take
- 1:27:16Speaker 13: it back, but he never had the opportunity.
- 1:27:21Speaker 23: He later confessed that had he not been stopped at
- 1:27:25Speaker 23: that point, he would have continued killing. None of us
- 1:27:30Speaker 23: would think that someone who is normal couldn't commit these
- 1:27:34Speaker 23: kinds of crimes.
- 1:27:37Speaker 6: You don't know how to feel.
- 1:27:40Speaker 18: I like to think that I did what I did
- 1:27:43Speaker 18: for those victims.
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: At trial, Carrie Stainer bleeds insanity. The jury rejects his defense.
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: On December twelfth, two thousand and two, Stainer receives the
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: death penalty. April nineteen ninety two, after battling heavy traffic,
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: Nancy Blackburn finally arrives at her destination. A weekend of
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: peace and relaxation awaits, or so she believes. For Nancy Blackburn,
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: the trip marks the end of a long cold winter,
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: but it also marks the beginning of a nightmare, a
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: nightmare that will yet claim many more victims.
- 1:28:31Speaker 11: He's an absolute sexual obevient.
- 1:28:33Speaker 9: He's a predator.
- 1:28:34Speaker 11: The viciousness that he displayed, his ruthlessness, I find to
- 1:28:40Speaker 11: be just chilling.
- 1:28:43Speaker 26: You clearly had someone to me to fit the category
- 1:28:46Speaker 26: of the serial killer.
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: Investigators must work feverishly to identify an elusive psychopath.
- 1:28:52Speaker 11: We had no idea who that person was.
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: Then hunt him down and stop his rampage.
- 1:29:01Speaker 22: There would be no end of victims until he was caught.
- 1:29:43Speaker 13: Uncle Ann Auntie Nance.
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: Monday, April thirteenth, nineteen ninety two, in an upscale neighborhood
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Jamie Osborne checks in on his
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: aunt and uncle after they failed to show up a
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: weekend family party. But no one's home. Nothing in the
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: house suggests where they may be.
- 1:30:10Speaker 16: I'll go in as a nats.
- 1:30:16Speaker 11: About eleven o'clock twelve o'clock in the evening. He also
- 1:30:20Speaker 11: notices that there's keys to the vehicle in the key container.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: The keys are to Nancy Blackburn's car. Perhaps it holds
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: a clue to the couple's whereabouts.
- 1:30:48Speaker 11: He goes to the back of the car, opens a trunk.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: Inside is a site Jamie will never forget. Metro Toronto
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: Police are soon on the scene.
- 1:31:11Speaker 11: It was called about two bodies found in the trunk
- 1:31:15Speaker 11: of a car at three Saint Leonard's in fifty three
- 1:31:18Speaker 11: Division in downtown Toronto.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: Detective Sergeant Doug Brady joins forensics expert Richard McEwan and
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: the investigation begins. An initial glance at the naked female
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: victim reveals the case's first piece of information.
- 1:31:40Speaker 11: Lavidity, which is a blood flowing to the lowest possible area,
- 1:31:45Speaker 11: had set in on the victim and she had been
- 1:31:48Speaker 11: in the position she was for some time.
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: The dead couple is quickly identified as Nancy and Ian Blackburn.
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: Neither have been seen for some days. As Nancy's car
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: is secured to protect it from the elements, Grady moves
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: his team inside the Blackburn's upscale North Toronto home. They
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: spent hours combing it for signs of foul play.
- 1:32:25Speaker 19: Nothing was found that was out of place within the house.
- 1:32:31Speaker 19: There's no signs of violence or any type of struggle
- 1:32:35Speaker 19: that was noticeable.
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: It becomes evident that the couple was not murdered within
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: these walls. But why were they killed at all?
- 1:32:49Speaker 11: He was the owner broker of a business with a partner.
- 1:32:52Speaker 11: They were quite successful. The female victim was a registered
- 1:32:59Speaker 11: nurse who was actively involved in businesses in Toronto, so
- 1:33:05Speaker 11: they were well enough off.
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: Authorities wonder was robbery the prime motive behind the murders.
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: They soon get their answer.
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: There's no way a thief could miss us.
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: All the Blackburn's possessions seem to be in place, but
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: they learned that something crucial is missing.
- 1:33:25Speaker 16: And when I opened off the car.
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: Ian Blackburn's car is not in the garage or anywhere
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: near the property. Grady issues in all points bulletined for
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: the vehicle. As the bodies are removed from Nancy's car
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: and sent to the Morgue. Her vehicle is then taken
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: to the Center of Forensic Sciences to be investigated.
- 1:33:49Speaker 19: And then we did an extensive examination of the car.
- 1:33:53Speaker 19: Fingerprints analysis done on the all the surfaces of the car.
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: Police are hopeful the killer left behind evidence of himself,
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: but they are disappointed.
- 1:34:06Speaker 19: Unfortunately, low usable fingerprints were found on the car itself,
- 1:34:09Speaker 19: and we're going to attribute that to the fact that
- 1:34:12Speaker 19: it was cold weather.
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: Sweat is necessary for a clean fingerprint. In cold weather,
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: the pores that provides sweat close up and leave little
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: moisture behind. In the back seat, authorities do find something interesting,
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: a thermal bag from which they recover a roasting pan.
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: Inside the pan is a fully prepared dinner of beef
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: and vegetables. Meanwhile, at the Morgue, an examination of Ian
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: Blackburn's injuries raises more questions than it answers. McEwan determines
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: that he was suffocated after being severely beaten with them.
- 1:34:47Speaker 11: He had been punched in the face, he had bruising
- 1:34:50Speaker 11: to him. Somebody had taken control of him quite strongly.
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: A look at the victim's right leg reveals a we
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: particularly intriguing clue.
- 1:35:01Speaker 11: But he had an unusual, in my experience, unusual markings
- 1:35:05Speaker 11: just above.
- 1:35:06Speaker 6: His right knee.
- 1:35:08Speaker 11: There was a ligature mark, very strong ligature mark.
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: Most captains Machewen has dealt with have been bound at
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: the wrists and ankles. Why would Ian be tied around
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: the knee.
- 1:35:22Speaker 11: He also had a cylinder mark around his skull, is
- 1:35:30Speaker 11: consistent with a firearm being placed there very strongly against
- 1:35:36Speaker 11: the side of his head.
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: A Quan now examines Nancy Blackburn. She too has been asphyxiated.
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: No evidence of sexual assault is found, but her injuries
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: paint a picture of extreme violence. Most alarming is the
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: discovery that both of Nancy's shoulders have been pulled out
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: of their sockets.
- 1:36:09Speaker 11: At first, you're trying to figure out in what kind
- 1:36:12Speaker 11: of scenarios could have resulted in this.
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: At the forensic garage, investigators finally recover a piece of
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: hard evidence, a bloody kleenex on the floor of the car.
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: Lab analysis reveals that the blood is not a match
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: to either victim. Could it be the killers? There's no
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: way to be sure. With nothing but speculation to go on,
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: Grady and his team are in need of a break,
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: and suddenly they get one when Ian Blackburn's car is
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: located one hour north of the city at his summer farmhouse.
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: On the case is Detective Inspector Jim Hutcheson.
- 1:37:01Speaker 22: The male victims vehicle was still in the Caldon area
- 1:37:05Speaker 22: had been parked there for considerable days, but.
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: A much more compelling find awaits Hutchison inside. Police believe
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: they have just found their murder scene. The bodies of
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: Ian and Nancy Blackburn are found in Nancy's car at
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: the couple's Toronto home. The search for their killer leads
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: police one hour north of the city to the Blackburn's
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: summer farmhouse. Ian Blackburn's car has been found outside and
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: human blood on the stairs inside. Detectives Grady and McEwan
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: arrive on the scene together with Inspector Hutchison. They seek
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: hard evidence to prove this is their crime scene. Ian
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: Blackburn's car places him at the location within the timeframe
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: when the couple died.
- 1:38:00Speaker 11: We could tell that the vehicle had been there for
- 1:38:01Speaker 11: at least a few days because there were markings around
- 1:38:05Speaker 11: the car where rain had come down and where the
- 1:38:08Speaker 11: soot had been, and there was a clear outline around
- 1:38:10Speaker 11: the vehicle.
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: Grady obtains phone records for the farmhouse and discovers that
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: the last two outgoing calls were made to the Blackburns
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: Toronto home three days before the couple was discovered. This evidence,
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: together with the roaster from Nancy's car, suggests that Ian
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: began the day alone at the cabin and telephone Nancy
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: to join him.
- 1:38:31Speaker 22: The speculation was that she had driven up to meet
- 1:38:34Speaker 22: with her husband and had brought a prepared meal.
- 1:38:40Speaker 11: And at that point we believe both vehicles were at
- 1:38:44Speaker 11: the farmhouse.
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: Speculation becomes fact when lab results confirmed the blood found
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: on the stairs is Nancy's. At the same time, the
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: investigators received some startling information from local authorities. Six months earlier,
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: another Toronto resident had been attacked only two kilometers away
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: from the Blackburn cottage.
- 1:39:14Speaker 22: A vehicle was found off the road in the ditch
- 1:39:18Speaker 22: in Caledon of a store owner from Toronto by the.
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: Name of Caroline Case.
- 1:39:25Speaker 22: She had disappeared from her store downtown Toronto, and then
- 1:39:28Speaker 22: there was some blood found in the car that was
- 1:39:30Speaker 22: identified as being Caroline Case.
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: Presumed murdered case's body has not been recovered. As police
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: wonder if the two crimes could be connected, the investigation
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: takes another turn.
- 1:39:43Speaker 9: Ah, you think that's the point of.
- 1:39:45Speaker 27: Entry or how it looks like an officer's actually, please,
- 1:39:52Speaker 27: there were small prim marks on a window that indicated
- 1:39:56Speaker 27: that there had been a forced entry to it.
- 1:39:59Speaker 4: In here, and he made his way in with them
- 1:40:02Speaker 4: looks like what could be a fuel.
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: Impressions are recorded, and investigators soon learned from local police
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: just how significant they are. It seems that cops throughout
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: the area are all too familiar with these impressions, having
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: seen them at a rash of unique cottage break ins
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: over the winter. The homicide team is told all about
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: the strange and elusive intruder known as the house Hermit.
- 1:40:27Speaker 19: The press nicknamed him the house Hermit, and that's how
- 1:40:32Speaker 19: he became unknown. He would break into a cottage over
- 1:40:36Speaker 19: the winter and live there for a period of time
- 1:40:39Speaker 19: and then abandon it.
- 1:40:42Speaker 22: He was using the bed, he had the heat turned
- 1:40:44Speaker 22: on in the area. He had a fry pan that
- 1:40:46Speaker 22: he was using.
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: Evidence of a visit by the house Hermit includes mounds
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: of used tea bags.
- 1:40:54Speaker 19: Our suspect like to drink Twining's tea.
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: And that's not all.
- 1:41:00Speaker 22: He was using plastic jugs to keep his urine because
- 1:41:05Speaker 22: the water system was not turned on for the winners.
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: He also keeps a stockpile of his own feces wrapped
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: in newspapers.
- 1:41:19Speaker 19: Paper was folded in a kind of a unique manner.
- 1:41:23Speaker 22: We referred to it as a fish and chip tucket.
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: What sounds merely eccentric turns possibly sinister when the team
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: is informed that one of the cottages the house hermit
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: broke into was that of a gun collector.
- 1:41:39Speaker 11: That breaking inner several handguns were taken, newer guns, older guns,
- 1:41:46Speaker 11: automatic revolvers, and that was quite a concern.
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: Investigators wonder could the mysterious hermit also be a killer.
- 1:41:59Speaker 11: So we had an idea that whoever was committing the
- 1:42:02Speaker 11: break and enters may be the person responsible for these murders.
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: The problem with this theory is that no evidence is
- 1:42:11Speaker 1: found inside the Blackburn farmhouse to suggest the house hermit
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: camped here. Hutchison moves the hunt for clues outside.
- 1:42:23Speaker 22: I had brought in the urd Team Emergency response team
- 1:42:26Speaker 22: to search the property and also all the concession mo
- 1:42:30Speaker 22: It's not leading up and down the farm.
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: The effort soon turns up exactly what the police are
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: hoping for. Garbage bags on the Blackburn property containing signs
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: of the house hermit, tea bags, urine filled jugs, and
- 1:42:53Speaker 1: the most telling calling card of all.
- 1:42:55Speaker 19: There were human feces wrapped in the sports section of
- 1:42:59Speaker 19: a newspaper from the Toronto Star.
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: The pages are dated February twenty seven. Inside the farmhouse,
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: Grady finds a newspaper for the same date, missing a
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: sports section more or.
- 1:43:13Speaker 22: Less tied in the victim's residents to what we found outside.
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: In the garbage, investigators also recover ammunition they are able
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: to trace back to the break in at the gun
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: collector's cottage. Authorities now suspect that one of those stolen
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: guns have been pressed against Ian Blackburn's head.
- 1:43:34Speaker 11: We put out the information on the firearms, all of
- 1:43:37Speaker 11: the serial numbers of the firearms.
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: In another disturbing development at the Morgue, medical examiners are
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: getting an idea of just how violently Nancy Blackburn died,
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: in particular how her shoulders were ripped out of their sockets.
- 1:43:56Speaker 19: The pathologist attributor to that injury to having your hands
- 1:43:59Speaker 19: by your back and then being hung.
- 1:44:02Speaker 11: Up, and the pathologists described it as being hogtied.
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: Clearly their killer enjoys extreme violence, but we.
- 1:44:18Speaker 11: Still had no idea who that person was.
- 1:44:21Speaker 9: Here we go.
- 1:44:26Speaker 11: Welcome, come on in, thank you, This is Upton, Please
- 1:44:29Speaker 11: meet s your Jim Hutchinson.
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: Then Hutchison is made aware of an extraordinary report filed
- 1:44:35Speaker 1: weeks earlier by an elderly couple, Rose and Samuel Appleton.
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: They had an encounter with the house Hermit, and we're
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: lucky to escape with their lives. Finally, the police are
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: ready to put a face to the man they suspect
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: is their cold blooded killer. After making a possible link
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: between the Blackburn double murder and a rash of bizarre
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: break ins in cottage country, police have found witnesses that
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: may help them identify a mysterious drifter dubbed the house Hermit.
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: Investigators hang on every word as Rose and Samuel Appleton
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: recount the brush they had with their intruder.
- 1:45:16Speaker 22: In early March of nineteen ninety two, an elderly couple
- 1:45:21Speaker 22: from Toronto came up to the Middland area. I went
- 1:45:24Speaker 22: on Georgie and Bay to pay their taxes for their cottage,
- 1:45:28Speaker 22: but also checked the cottage and make sure that everything
- 1:45:30Speaker 22: was fine over the winter.
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: So I'll give me a second.
- 1:45:35Speaker 13: I'll turn on the power, check the pipes New York.
- 1:45:37Speaker 2: I won't be longer.
- 1:45:40Speaker 11: He asked his wife to stay in the car. He
- 1:45:42Speaker 11: walks to the cottage, He opens it up, he goes in.
- 1:45:49Speaker 19: He was confronted by our suspect, who had a firearm.
- 1:45:54Speaker 11: Took control of the older gentleman and took them back
- 1:45:56Speaker 11: to the car.
- 1:45:59Speaker 19: Told them I mean to Toronto, to your house and
- 1:46:01Speaker 19: I'll leave you there.
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: The hour long trip to Toronto is spent in silence
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: and terror, but once in the city, the Appletons defy
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: the house hermit's order to take him to their residence.
- 1:46:22Speaker 11: He drove this person right to Dundas and Young, the
- 1:46:27Speaker 11: busiest street in Toronto, right at the busiest corner of Toronto.
- 1:46:34Speaker 11: I will not take you to our home. If you're
- 1:46:38Speaker 11: going to shoot us, shoot us right here.
- 1:46:41Speaker 1: The Appletons await their fate, but in the end, their
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: brave tactic works.
- 1:46:47Speaker 11: The suspect got out of the car and took off,
- 1:46:51Speaker 11: and I honestly believe that that auction saved their lives.
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: The couple now tells police everything they can remember about
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: their assailant.
- 1:46:59Speaker 22: Both gave descriptions of the individuals that had attacked, and
- 1:47:03Speaker 22: a composite drawn was prepared by the opp artist.
- 1:47:08Speaker 19: We had the similarities in the break ins, and now
- 1:47:11Speaker 19: we had a description of our suspect.
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was.
- 1:47:14Speaker 18: She had dark glasses on us.
- 1:47:16Speaker 11: We thought of releasing composite drawings, but composite drawings give
- 1:47:20Speaker 11: you quite often a thousand names that mean nothing. Composite
- 1:47:26Speaker 11: drawings sometimes isn't exact enough.
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: Local investigation at the time of the incident revealed evidence
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: that the house hermit had camped at the Appleton cottage.
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: Hutchison now returns there and discovers a box the hermit
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: had stashed away inside our alarming contents.
- 1:47:45Speaker 19: There was quite an extensive collection of porn found at
- 1:47:49Speaker 19: that time.
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: Much of the pornography features acts of s and m
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: in particular photographs of women who have been hog tied.
- 1:48:00Speaker 11: Someone was cut out and classified and classified, I mean categorized,
- 1:48:05Speaker 11: would keep it in different groups.
- 1:48:09Speaker 22: There'd be a whole bunch of breast pictures, and then
- 1:48:11Speaker 22: there'd be a whole bunch of and his pictures. Wasn't
- 1:48:13Speaker 22: that he was cutting out the and putting them together.
- 1:48:16Speaker 22: It was just that they would be cutting it up
- 1:48:18Speaker 22: and categorizing.
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: A troubling profile of the suspected killer emerges from this evidence.
- 1:48:25Speaker 11: He was somebody who was good with his hands, somebody
- 1:48:28Speaker 11: who was.
- 1:48:30Speaker 22: Methodical, and also that he was fantasy driven. I believe
- 1:48:34Speaker 22: that he could only gain satisfaction through a type of
- 1:48:39Speaker 22: bondage or violence.
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: Police now review their evidence. Ian's car abandoned at the
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: Blackburn farmhouse, the phone records showing calls from the farmhouse
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: to his Toronto residence, the roasting pan in Nancy's car,
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: her blood on the stairs signs that the house hermit
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: entered the farm house and camp there, his appetite for
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: violent pornography, and lastly, the vicious wounds to both Ian
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: and Nancy. Taken together, they form a picture of how
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: and why the Blackburns died. It starts with Ian arriving
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: at the farmhouse alone, having driven up in his vehicle.
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: He's completely unaware that the house hermit is residing inside.
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: Ian enters the residence, phones Nancy in Toronto and they
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: discuss her driving up to join him.
- 1:49:54Speaker 5: Hey sweetheart, I sweetie, Yeah, I've got the rose of
- 1:49:57Speaker 5: the oven, and I'll probably be there in a couple hours.
- 1:50:00Speaker 6: All right, Okay, we'll look forward to seeing you.
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: Then.
- 1:50:05Speaker 28: By the time Nancy arrives, Ian is powerless.
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: To help her.
- 1:50:24Speaker 16: Yeah, honey, I'm scared.
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: The house hermit overpowers her, then hog ties her and
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: assaults her in accordance with his sexually sadistic fantasies. Finally,
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: he kills her and throws her in the truck of
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: her car. The hermit now cleans up his campsite, throws
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: the garbage in the woods, and prepares to leave the area.
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: The police can't be sure how the Blackburns ended up
- 1:51:14Speaker 1: back in Toronto. A closer examination of Ian Blackburn's injuries,
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: including the ligature mark on his right leg, point to
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: the likely circumstance. His right arm was tied to his
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: right leg with enough slack to allow him to drive,
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: while his left arm and ankle were tightly bound together.
- 1:51:32Speaker 22: And forced the male victim to drive the vehicle back
- 1:51:36Speaker 22: to Toronto, possibly not even knowing that his wife was
- 1:51:41Speaker 22: in the trunk, and probably hoping to save his own life,
- 1:51:46Speaker 22: hoping to get back to Calden to release his wife.
- 1:51:49Speaker 9: Who would be tied up back at the cottage.
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: What now.
- 1:52:00Speaker 22: That once he got into the driveway, was affixiated, put
- 1:52:04Speaker 22: in the trunk of the car and they were left there.
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: But despite their theories, all police have to show for
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: the investigation is a bloody tissue and a composite sketch
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: They can connect to no one. Then they make a
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: discovery that just may turn things around. Under the pornography
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: found at the Appleton's property are several strange lists of
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: military equipment.
- 1:52:30Speaker 11: Fulker airplanes against sopwith Campbell's, you know, like a unique
- 1:52:35Speaker 11: planes all crossed off, firearms, rifles against canons. It appeared
- 1:52:47Speaker 11: to be a solitary game of war.
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: But for the investigators, more important than the content of
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: the lists is the style in which they have been written.
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: The handwriting is so unique it might prove as effective
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: as a fingerprint in identifying someone. The team goes public
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: with their manhunt.
- 1:53:13Speaker 11: We provided the media with a copy of the handwriting
- 1:53:18Speaker 11: and it went in national media, both on television and
- 1:53:23Speaker 11: in the print media.
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: Police know all too well the risks they take releasing
- 1:53:29Speaker 1: their evidence. It may alert the suspect that they're onto him.
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: But if they don't roll the dice and take this gamble,
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: they'll never catch a killer before he strikes again. Police
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: have distributed samples of the house hermit's unique handwriting to
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: the media in hopes that someone can help identify their
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: elusive suspect. Within hours, they hit paydirt. Courtesy of Alison shaw.
- 1:54:07Speaker 8: Well.
- 1:54:07Speaker 22: We had a call from a called Alison who said
- 1:54:10Speaker 22: that she definitely knew that, writing that she knew the
- 1:54:15Speaker 22: individual for the last two or three years.
- 1:54:19Speaker 2: Pleasure to meet you, Jim Hodgson.
- 1:54:22Speaker 10: Thank you.
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: Alison sits down with authorities and unfolds the story of
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: their suspect.
- 1:54:30Speaker 11: So why don't you explain to me this list that
- 1:54:32Speaker 11: we spoke about on the phone.
- 1:54:33Speaker 20: I met him in Orangeville, Ontario. He was working on
- 1:54:38Speaker 20: a building which was behind my apartment that I rented
- 1:54:42Speaker 20: with my husband at the time.
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: You a bit of a description of them, I have
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: a picture?
- 1:54:48Speaker 6: Does that help?
- 1:54:48Speaker 2: It'd be fantastic.
- 1:54:50Speaker 1: She also provides investigators with what they want most, an identification,
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: and was that time she gave us the name David Snow.
- 1:55:03Speaker 11: David Snow owned a shop called Nothing in Particular and
- 1:55:06Speaker 11: it was a knickknack shop. Alison worked for him in
- 1:55:10Speaker 11: the knickknack shop.
- 1:55:12Speaker 1: Allison had seen samples of Snow's distinctive handwriting on inventory
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: lists for the store. See this is a German JU
- 1:55:24Speaker 1: eighty seven stucid die bomber.
- 1:55:28Speaker 6: Let's see. The thing about this plane.
- 1:55:31Speaker 12: Is it wasn't the fastest plane.
- 1:55:35Speaker 16: It wasn't even what did he do?
- 1:55:38Speaker 20: He'd come over after work with Daris, who was my husband,
- 1:55:43Speaker 20: come up to the apartment, have dinner, a couple of beers.
- 1:55:51Speaker 16: It got to be a daily occurrence.
- 1:55:54Speaker 20: In pretty short order. I noticed he was I had
- 1:56:04Speaker 20: a real problem with hygiene. He had terrible body odor,
- 1:56:10Speaker 20: like he had showered in months. It really rotten teeth,
- 1:56:17Speaker 20: It's awful.
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: In fact, he had the kind of bad teeth that
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: are prone to bleeding. But despite his terrible hygiene, Alison
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: got along well with her eccentric employer.
- 1:56:31Speaker 20: Our relationship was okay, it was fine. It wasn't close,
- 1:56:35Speaker 20: it wasn't just stand. It was just me doing my
- 1:56:39Speaker 20: thing and him doing his.
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: That is until Snow discovered that Alison was expecting her
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: first child.
- 1:56:49Speaker 16: David, I didn't see the.
- 1:56:51Speaker 11: Idn't you tell me?
- 1:56:54Speaker 16: Excuse me?
- 1:56:56Speaker 12: He told Sherry that you were pregnant, and you never
- 1:56:59Speaker 12: told me.
- 1:57:03Speaker 20: He didn't react very well at all.
- 1:57:04Speaker 11: He said, I thought I was a better friend to
- 1:57:06Speaker 11: you than that.
- 1:57:08Speaker 9: What I guess, I don't mean anything to you.
- 1:57:12Speaker 12: Yeah, stormed off, you know, like he was my husband
- 1:57:17Speaker 12: or something.
- 1:57:19Speaker 13: It was.
- 1:57:19Speaker 1: It just blew me away. Allison had to accept that
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: something was very wrong with David Snow, but no one
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: else in Orangeville seemed bothered by his peculiar ways.
- 1:57:32Speaker 20: No one ever said anything about any of that.
- 1:57:36Speaker 16: Ever, I felt like I was while I was the
- 1:57:43Speaker 16: only one.
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: In her experience. Snow's behavior continued to grow increasingly strange
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: and unsettling.
- 1:57:53Speaker 20: I had seen this real change in him, this slow
- 1:57:57Speaker 20: decline in over the last few months, that I really
- 1:58:01Speaker 20: got frightened.
- 1:58:02Speaker 8: You know, I don't know why.
- 1:58:05Speaker 17: I still don't know why.
- 1:58:06Speaker 27: But I did.
- 1:58:07Speaker 1: Authorities ask Alison where her boss is now. She has
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: no idea. The investigation moves to the town where Snow
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: had his shop. Police in choir after the man believed
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: to be the house hermit and their killer.
- 1:58:23Speaker 22: We went around with the Orangeville area there and we
- 1:58:25Speaker 22: had aucers going door to door.
- 1:58:27Speaker 11: Hanne O pictures of David Snow the homicide. Your area
- 1:58:31Speaker 11: just told me, if you've seen this moment.
- 1:58:35Speaker 27: When we.
- 1:58:36Speaker 19: Started doing a background history on him.
- 1:58:39Speaker 11: We found that he never drove.
- 1:58:41Speaker 9: He walked everywhere.
- 1:58:45Speaker 22: His older brother had tried to teach him to drive
- 1:58:48Speaker 22: at one point and he just broke out into a sweat.
- 1:58:52Speaker 6: He was nervous.
- 1:58:52Speaker 22: He put the car in the ditch and jumped out
- 1:58:54Speaker 22: and said, I want to never get inside the car again.
- 1:58:57Speaker 1: Police also learned substantial details about Snow's departure from the
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: area over eight months ago.
- 1:59:04Speaker 22: October third of nineteen ninety one, he went into the
- 1:59:11Speaker 22: taxi stand in Orangeville.
- 1:59:13Speaker 11: Which he used, was very, very early in the morning.
- 1:59:17Speaker 22: He was covered with mud and he was wet, and
- 1:59:20Speaker 22: he got a riot and he paid cash and jumped
- 1:59:24Speaker 22: out of the vehicle and wealth and that's the last
- 1:59:26Speaker 22: that he was seen in Orangeville.
- 1:59:31Speaker 1: The most alarming thing about Snow's disappearance is that it
- 1:59:34Speaker 1: occurred on the very same day that the car of
- 1:59:37Speaker 1: Toronto store owner Carolyn Case was found in a ditch
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: in Caladen. Now the location of that car.
- 1:59:46Speaker 19: If you follow the county road that the car was
- 1:59:49Speaker 19: on slightly farther north, it almost runs into the area
- 1:59:56Speaker 19: where the Snow's family homeless.
- 2:00:00Speaker 1: David Snow may not be just a killer he may
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: be a serial killer.
- 2:00:07Speaker 11: I thought somebody who's committed these type of crimes is
- 2:00:11Speaker 11: not going to stop until they're caught. They have no
- 2:00:14Speaker 11: regard for anybody else. So, yes, we were concerned.
- 2:00:18Speaker 1: Authorities put out a Canada wide arrest warrant for their
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: prime suspect, But as they scramble to find David Snow,
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: a predator is stocking more prey. David Snow is the
- 2:00:38Speaker 1: prime suspect in the murders of Ian and Nancy Blackburn. Now,
- 2:00:42Speaker 1: just as police launch an intense search to find him,
- 2:00:46Speaker 1: a twenty one year old photostore clerk goes missing on
- 2:00:49Speaker 1: July one, nineteen ninety two. No one has seen her
- 2:00:52Speaker 1: since the previous evening when she worked alone at the business.
- 2:00:56Speaker 1: On the case is RCMP investigator Randy in it. But
- 2:01:01Speaker 1: the strange thing about this crime is that it hasn't
- 2:01:04Speaker 1: taken place in Toronto or even Ontario. The victim has
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: been abducted over three thousand kilometers away in Vancouver, British Columbia.
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: Besides no witnesses, the scene offers few clues for Bennett's investigators.
- 2:01:18Speaker 29: They had absolutely no information to work on, and we're
- 2:01:21Speaker 29: relying on some public assistance to try to support their investigation.
- 2:01:25Speaker 1: Law enforcement combs the city looking for the abducted woman.
- 2:01:30Speaker 1: Ten days later, there's still no sign of her. Then
- 2:01:36Speaker 1: on July eleventh, there's another kidnapping.
- 2:01:44Speaker 29: There have been a young lady abducted from a video
- 2:01:47Speaker 29: store in North Vancouver.
- 2:01:48Speaker 1: The only witness to the crime is a badly shaken
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: video store manager.
- 2:01:53Speaker 29: It's somewhat sketchy information that lone mail individual entered the
- 2:01:57Speaker 29: video store. The manager was tied up up and left
- 2:02:01Speaker 29: in the building, and a female employee was removed from
- 2:02:03Speaker 29: the building. The manager was able to free himself from
- 2:02:07Speaker 29: his ligatures and made the call in that there had
- 2:02:09Speaker 29: been a robbery and an abduction and the employee was missing.
- 2:02:14Speaker 1: In describing the perpetrator, the manager notes that he had
- 2:02:18Speaker 1: terrible body odor and a mouthful of rotten teeth. Bennett
- 2:02:24Speaker 1: learns the victim's car is missing from the parking lot
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: and a city wide dragnet begins. Among the cops on
- 2:02:39Speaker 1: high alert is Constable David Kwasnika. He decides to head
- 2:02:44Speaker 1: from Mount Seymour Provincial Park as the area best fits
- 2:02:48Speaker 1: his theory about the man they are hunting.
- 2:02:53Speaker 12: I felt that the suspect was abducting this woman in
- 2:02:57Speaker 12: order to sexually assault her and would likely take the
- 2:03:03Speaker 12: woman to a secluded area.
- 2:03:08Speaker 1: Quasnika drives around the corner in a remote area of
- 2:03:12Speaker 1: the park.
- 2:03:14Speaker 12: And that's where we found the vehicle.
- 2:03:17Speaker 29: They called it in the location where they were at,
- 2:03:20Speaker 29: and we were sending extra members to reinforce and to
- 2:03:22Speaker 29: provide backup for them.
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: Quasnika and his partner proceed to secure the vehicle and
- 2:03:33Speaker 1: look for any clues the abductor may have left behind.
- 2:03:38Speaker 12: And at that point, that's when we heard the screaming
- 2:03:42Speaker 12: from the forest.
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: Tucked in the woods just off the road, Kwasnika discovers
- 2:03:51Speaker 1: the badly assaulted victim from the video store. At least
- 2:03:55Speaker 1: she's alive.
- 2:03:57Speaker 12: She was in a squatting position, her wrists were tied
- 2:04:01Speaker 12: to her ankles, and just.
- 2:04:04Speaker 1: As backup arise, Quasnika gets another shot.
- 2:04:10Speaker 12: And I started running towards the screams that I heard.
- 2:04:17Speaker 1: Not far from the first victim, the officers discover a
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: makeshift campsite. Tied to a tree is another woman who's
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: been severely brutalized.
- 2:04:27Speaker 11: Did you see where he was?
- 2:04:28Speaker 1: Was Nica immediately recognizes her as the victim kidnapped ten
- 2:04:32Speaker 1: days earlier from the photo store.
- 2:04:36Speaker 29: Then crime scene had some sleeping bags and personal articles
- 2:04:40Speaker 29: and personal clothing and some food, garbage and debris.
- 2:04:43Speaker 1: Quasnika and his partner try to comfort the traumatized woman.
- 2:04:47Speaker 12: What disturbed me was how this victim reacted with no reaction,
- 2:04:55Speaker 12: just like very calm, cool, collected and monotone voice.
- 2:05:12Speaker 1: As the women are escorted out of the woods, more
- 2:05:15Speaker 1: police move in and the hunt for the perpetrator kicks
- 2:05:18Speaker 1: into high gear.
- 2:05:20Speaker 29: They are directed that we would deploy other police cars
- 2:05:24Speaker 29: to start setting up for robblocks and try to contain
- 2:05:27Speaker 29: a male suspect that had flat off into the bushes.
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: But given the nature of Mount Seymour Park, that's not
- 2:05:34Speaker 1: going to be easy.
- 2:05:35Speaker 29: It's very densely treed with lots of undergrowth and so forth,
- 2:05:39Speaker 29: and because it's on a mountain slope, you can probably
- 2:05:42Speaker 29: hide in any crevice or corner, or a cracker under
- 2:05:44Speaker 29: any trees or bushes and stay hidden for quite some
- 2:05:48Speaker 29: period of time.
- 2:05:50Speaker 1: As the massive manhunt gets under way, authorities searching the
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: second victim's car find a gun.
- 2:05:57Speaker 29: The police officers call the serial numbers into our and
- 2:06:00Speaker 29: the round him on the national database.
- 2:06:03Speaker 1: Bennett learns that the gun was stolen in a cottage
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: robbery in Ontario by a man wanted on a countrywide
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: murder warrant. His name is David Snow.
- 2:06:21Speaker 22: I get a call from a British Columbia and I think,
- 2:06:23Speaker 22: as your fellow looking for.
- 2:06:26Speaker 11: Oh, it's totally shocked.
- 2:06:29Speaker 6: You're serious.
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: Ontario police can only hope that BC authorities will do
- 2:06:34Speaker 1: what they could not find and capture their killer. Concerns
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: about a psychopath loose in the park are soon compounded
- 2:06:43Speaker 1: when authorities learn that a marathon is taking place.
- 2:06:50Speaker 12: We were worried that he would grab another victim.
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: As night falls, the manhunt becomes much more difficult, but
- 2:07:00Speaker 1: failure is not an option.
- 2:07:03Speaker 29: We had one of the greatest threats to the community
- 2:07:07Speaker 29: that the community has seen in.
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: Your long time, and for a local restaurant owner, it's
- 2:07:13Speaker 1: a threat that's all too real. After abducting and assaulting
- 2:07:21Speaker 1: two women in Vancouver, David Snow is being hunted by
- 2:07:25Speaker 1: police in Mount Seymour Provincial Park. They don't know he's
- 2:07:30Speaker 1: managed to flee the area and choose another victim at
- 2:07:33Speaker 1: a secluded restaurant Snow forces the woman to the back
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: of the building, but he's unaware that she was able
- 2:07:45Speaker 1: to trigger the restaurant's silent alarm. With most law enforcement
- 2:07:53Speaker 1: resources diverted to Mount Seymour, it falls on Constable Peter
- 2:07:58Speaker 1: Cross and his partner John Westlock to respond.
- 2:08:03Speaker 26: We were doing what you would call standard routine police calls.
- 2:08:07Speaker 26: We got two calls for alarms. One was an Edgemond
- 2:08:09Speaker 26: village and the second alarm was for the Bridgehouse restaurant.
- 2:08:13Speaker 9: To this day, I have no.
- 2:08:14Speaker 26: Idea why I chose the Bridge House because we were
- 2:08:16Speaker 26: actually driving by the other alarm to get to the
- 2:08:19Speaker 26: Bridge House for alarm.
- 2:08:21Speaker 1: Nothing appears out of place upon their arrival, and they
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: can't hear the victim. Constable Cross finally arrives at the
- 2:08:51Speaker 1: back of the building.
- 2:08:58Speaker 26: Three and that's when he starts running.
- 2:09:07Speaker 1: In one fell swoop. Cross brings to an end Snow's
- 2:09:11Speaker 1: deadly rampage.
- 2:09:14Speaker 2: I'll go back to the woman back there.
- 2:09:15Speaker 9: She needs help.
- 2:09:20Speaker 26: I said, you're a fellow we're looking for, and he said, yeah,
- 2:09:24Speaker 26: I think so.
- 2:09:33Speaker 9: You're gonna be okay. Can you hear me?
- 2:09:35Speaker 1: Snow's victim is alive, if just bare.
- 2:09:38Speaker 26: We were told by the hospital staff if she was
- 2:09:41Speaker 26: thirty to forty five seconds away from dying. To come
- 2:09:45Speaker 26: across someone that is in the process of being killed
- 2:09:48Speaker 26: is extremely rare. To have the ability to stop it
- 2:09:51Speaker 26: and have the ability to catch the guy doing it.
- 2:09:53Speaker 26: I think is yeah, it's one of those moments in
- 2:09:56Speaker 26: time that, yeah, you're pretty proud of it when you're done.
- 2:10:04Speaker 1: Snow first stands trial in British Columbia.
- 2:10:09Speaker 29: We were able to secure convictions against David Snow for
- 2:10:12Speaker 29: several counts of abduction, forceable confinement, sexual assault, and aggravated assault.
- 2:10:21Speaker 1: After being sentenced, he's returned to Ontario to stand trial
- 2:10:25Speaker 1: for the Blackburn homicides.
- 2:10:28Speaker 19: A DNA sample is obtained from him and it's subsequently
- 2:10:32Speaker 19: matched to the blood in the Blackburn car.
- 2:10:37Speaker 1: Police see that years of neglect have left Snow's gums
- 2:10:41Speaker 1: prone to bleeding. Poor hygie caused him to leave key
- 2:10:45Speaker 1: evidence behind.
- 2:10:47Speaker 11: On top of all the circumstantial evidence that we had.
- 2:10:50Speaker 11: That was the bonus to show that there was David
- 2:10:55Speaker 11: Snow's blood and the deceased car that was irrefutable.
- 2:11:04Speaker 1: David Snow is convicted of two counts of first degree murder.
- 2:11:09Speaker 1: The body of Carolyn Case is eventually recovered, but for
- 2:11:12Speaker 1: lack of evidence, he's never charged with her slaying.
- 2:11:15Speaker 22: I don't believe that there's any redeeming merit and David
- 2:11:19Speaker 22: Snow whatsoever. He's not an individual that could come back
- 2:11:21Speaker 22: into the community.
- 2:11:26Speaker 11: The viciousness that he displayed, his ruthlessness, I find to
- 2:11:31Speaker 11: be just sure.
- 2:11:34Speaker 9: I have no idea what droll from.
- 2:11:36Speaker 26: Said psychiatrist will spend years studying as to what prompted
- 2:11:39Speaker 26: him to this behavior.
- 2:11:43Speaker 16: We're driving home.
- 2:11:46Speaker 20: Ten or eleven o'clock at night, two of us on
- 2:11:49Speaker 20: the Peach Block dirt roads. I never thought twice about it.
- 2:11:57Speaker 1: Declared a dangerous offender. David Snow will spend the rest
- 2:12:01Speaker 1: of his life behind bars.
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- 2:14:19Speaker 16: S coming in