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Karratha Teacher and Empower You Founder Josephine Booth · She Said It Out Loud with Emma Young

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  SPEAKER_00: You're listening to She Said It Out Loud, where real women share real stories without sugarcoating a theme.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Emma Young, and I'll bring you on filtered conversations with ambitious women who faced challenges, made bold moves, and learned a lot along the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: You'll get real takeaways, honest lessons, stories that you're gonna relate to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Righto, let's get started.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hey there and welcome to the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Emma Young, and this is She Said It Out Loud.
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  SPEAKER_00: My episode today is kindly sponsored by Fourfold Cafe down at Cable Beach.
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  SPEAKER_00: Order, a cold brew and an asai bowl.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have their asai bowl machine up and running, and it is absolutely delicious.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone knows me knows that I'm addicted to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, my guest today is Josephine Booth, who is a primary school teacher, but she is also a women's empowerment and mindset coach, and she lives in Karatha.
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  SPEAKER_00: So on my way up, I went to Karatha and I was there for 24 hours on my road trip recently with my boss, and I was, I have to go and interview this woman.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the funny story about Josephine is she actually reached out to me and sent me a DM on my Instagram, literally saying that she'd stumbled across my page, found herself listening to some of the podcast episodes, and absolutely loved them and loved everything about she said it out loud.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fact that she sent me a private message and didn't ask for anything and just sent me the kindest message.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought, you know what, if I'm ever in Karatha, I have to get her on.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then after stalking her page and the fact that she really promotes women knowing their self-worth, going through these life transitions and, you know, helping women in general to rebuild their confidence, I thought, oh my gosh, she is right up my alley.
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  SPEAKER_00: We sat down at the Karatha International and had a really engaging conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So enough of me waffling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here is our chat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the podcast, Josephine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am so happy to have you on today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Josephine reached out to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: She sent me the most beautiful message.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just want to say thank you, first of all, for reaching out to me, Josephine.
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  SPEAKER_00: But can you explain to my listeners a little bit about yourself?
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  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate coming on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: About me, I'm a primary school teacher.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have a small business on the side.
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  SPEAKER_02: I work really closely with women, remembering who they are and regaining their confidence and building that self-trust.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I also have two amazing little dogs that drive me up the wall.
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  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I live in this little regional town and just really try to make a positive impact on the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: On your page, for those people that are listening, I want, I'm gonna put Josephine's details and everything that we've spoken about on today's episode in the show notes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so do yourself a favor and definitely check out her page because she's got some really interesting, I mean, she's incredible at doing reels for starters, but she has a lot of information that is right up my alley in regards to women taking the time for themselves, having mindset coaching and how important that is, and especially for those women that have small businesses and that live in remote towns or regional towns.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna go straight into this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Josephine, you've got a pretty open, you're well, you are pretty open on your page about your love-hate relationship with food and that, you know, in the past you've had body dysmorphia, you know, you've gone from having unhealthy eating habits to starving yourself to then going into competitive bodybuilding, but then getting strong again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Explain a bit about your journey on this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I was actually a professional dancer and model where a lot of my validation and self-worth came from external premises.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I thought the skinnier that I was, the better that I was, and that's where my worth kind of came from.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I came out of that and I was really in a dark place and I was like, I don't know who I am, I don't know what I'm worth, like without that external validation.
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  SPEAKER_02: And from that, I actually ended up putting on like I think it was like 20 or 30 kilos.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, coming from, you know, being on stages or being employed, but based on what I looked like, I obviously wasn't getting booked anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that definitely hit my confidence a lot more in that space.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I remember going through like a really toxic relationship and it just being worse, and that person definitely controlling the way that I eat and all of that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: So in the end, I came out of that relationship, thank God.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember just going, like, what am I doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, why do I have all this weight on?
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  SPEAKER_02: Why am I so unhappy?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, I really need to fix something in my life because I'm not doing anything well right now, you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: And it got to a point where I actually, one of my really good friends, I met her through the gym.
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  SPEAKER_02: She just said to me, she was like, you know, the reason why you have all this weight is because you don't have the education behind it, right?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: And like being a teacher, I love education.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was really important to me to kind of figure out how to build those healthy relationships.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's not taught to us.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I really had to seek that education.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I ended up joining a gym.
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  SPEAKER_02: She ended up mentoring me through my weight loss journey and really educating me on health and fitness.
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  SPEAKER_02: And now my view is that I feel like social media and I feel like just general society really complicate healthy eating.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Really complicated.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're like, you know, you need to track your macros, you need to weigh your food and blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And like if you are eating healthy 80% of the time, and 20% of the time you're just like, you know, having McDonald's here or there, you know, once a week or whatever, like that is fine too.
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  SPEAKER_02: That is a healthy balance.
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  SPEAKER_02: But if you're just doing that and you are getting steps in or, you know, going to the gym three times a week, that is going to help you take off the weight.
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  SPEAKER_02: That is gonna help you build those healthy habits throughout your life, you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you have strong, healthy habits and you have that strong foundation, that is gonna help you in every other area of your life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like your mindset is gonna be better.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: The way that you show up for people is gonna be better.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in my experience, once I lost all of that weight, and as you said, I went into competitive bodybuilding, that wasn't me building healthy habits.
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  SPEAKER_02: People look at that and go, oh my god, you were so strong, you were so disciplined.
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  SPEAKER_02: The reason why I did it now looking back on it was again to have that external validation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can have all the healthy habits in the world, but if you yourself inside don't believe that you are good enough or don't believe that you have enough self-worth, I came out of that bodybuilding competition and was like, I remember there's this photo of me.
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  SPEAKER_02: People will be able to scroll and find it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I look amazing, amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can see all of my muscles.
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  SPEAKER_02: I look so beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember that photo we're actually going out to a festival and I cried.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was like crying my eyes out because I was like, I don't feel beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think I look so ugly.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't believe that I'm skinny.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I am so skinny in that photo.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember just crying to my friends being like, I look so fat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I look so fat.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I looking back on it now, I was like, what was wrong with me?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, what was wrong with me?
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  SPEAKER_02: But what was wrong with me was I had all of the healthy habits, but my mind wasn't matching where I was.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't believe that I was beautiful at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I really had to work on my mindset as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when people say, you know, oh my gosh, how do you get healthy?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's such a well-rounded thing that you have to work on.
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  SPEAKER_02: I track, I meal prep all of my food.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just believe that if you are not prepared, you aren't going to succeed.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad that you said that because I think, I mean, I've interviewed, I don't know if you know her, Coach Carly.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's in Broome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her friend is Coach Cody Lee, who's in Port Headland.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's there's a bunch of different women, obviously Flossie, that I've interviewed so far on this podcast that are insanely talented and educated about healthy eating and keeping strong and all this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every single one of them, I mean, I haven't interviewed Coach Cody Lee yet, but definitely Coach Carly, Coach Demi.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone has said that you have to be prepared.
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  SPEAKER_00: My own husband says this all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I noticed, again, it depends on your age.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm 44, pretty much as soon as I turn 40, it's a lot harder for me to lose weight.
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  SPEAKER_00: It all goes to my belly, like they always say that it does.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I have a really bad habit of I can function in life on ice long black and not eat anything until one o'clock.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, the problem with that is I could do that maybe even a decade ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: But now I'll get to one o'clock.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm yawning, I'm tired, I've got this huge slump.
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  SPEAKER_00: But not only that, you know, I know that they talk about cortisol.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can't starve yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: You need to have food.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because I'm not prepared and I haven't either got either got access to healthy food that I've prepped earlier, I don't want a salad.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I'm ravenous, I'm thinking large chips from macca's, which I know I'm gonna regret as soon as I finish eating it because I'm gonna get sore cut.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's all the bad things when you're when you're that hungry, it's like I've just got to get and whatever's quick and easy to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to sit here chopping up avocado and making tuna slices and all the rest of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's just not gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: So thanks for bringing that up in regards to meal prep because I think that anybody that's considering either losing weight, even dropping five kilos or wanting to feel better within themselves, yeah, meal prep 100%.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't agree with you more.
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  SPEAKER_00: And obviously, portion sizes too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's no good having six huge, giant man-sized meals a day and then wondering, questioning to yourself, how come I haven't lost any weight?
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 100%.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I like what you said about the portion sizes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And again, like if you don't have the education behind what is a portion size, you are gonna eat those six big meals, right?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: Because you're like, okay, but I'm having six steaks a day and steak is healthy.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like, yeah, understanding the food and understanding how much you need every day of what is really important.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you for sharing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you are the founders of Empower You, which is mindset coaching and in-person events here in Karatha.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to say that this is incredibly ambitious because to do this, to have this sort of business in a regional town, which some people might actually consider Karatha remote.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't because I'm like, it's just down the road and you know, you've got a KSC.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: So any town that's got KSC is not remote, but lots of city people would consider that.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: I love this business that you've got.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Empower you.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me more about this.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, as you said, Empower You was actually founded in Karatha, which is crazy, but yeah, we'll get into like how and why.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: What I really just wanted from my life was to change other people's lives, was to take, you know, anything that I've been through and anything that I've learned and influence other people in a positive way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I always knew ever since I was a child, I was born to change the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, changing the world can be quite hard.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I've always thought if I can just change the world one person at a time.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I took that into my education career.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've taken this into my business now, and I really just want women to remember that you don't need to become someone new, you don't need to have these ambitious goals, you don't need to do anything, you just need to be yourself and you are just gonna flourish in your life.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I just really want to empower women to just be like, just remember who you are and don't worry about anything else.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of where the business came from.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so what led you into the mindset coaching part of it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Was there a particular moment in your own life where you were like, something's gotta change, or you just knew that this is something good that you wanted to educate other women about?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Loaded question.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um sorry, I'm full of loaded questions.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Loaded questions.
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  SPEAKER_02: In terms of building Empower You, there was a definite moment in my career where I was like, I can't keep living like this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I remember just being so burnt out, so to the point where I was like, I can't wake up in the mornings anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, I just wanted to sleep.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: And in not in a dark space where I like, I was like, oh my god, I can't live anymore.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: But I was like in a dark space where I was like, I can't keep living like this anymore.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I was so burnt out.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember just seeing me in the car park crying my eyes out and going, I can't live like this anymore.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like something needs to change.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was already on my personal growth journey myself, you know, coming from a childhood that wasn't great, and then my relationships and really just wanting to grow as a person as well.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: Going on my personal journey, there wasn't a definite moment that, you know, something big happened.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think sometimes people think, I've got to wait until something big happens to work on myself.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of just woke up one day and was like, I don't want to keep living like this.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Again, you know, it's that moment.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: It was just waking up.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the same with the weight loss.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't want to live like this anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to have this extra 30 kilos on me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And with the mindset, I went on my own personal journey and I realized how important and impactful that was for myself.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when I had that moment of being burnt out in my career and knowing how many other women live like that, I was just like, okay, I've got to do something.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've got to change this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, women don't need to live like this, and I don't want anyone to be in the pain that I was in.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's how the mindset coaching coming about.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love the I love the way that you explained that then, because I think a lot of women probably do think that there needs to be this big catastrophic event or there needs to be something so incredibly dynamic and a blow-up where you're like, oh God.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for me to progress next in life, I have to.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: But for you, it was simple as something as simple as waking up just going, you know what, something needs to change.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: It could be 9 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_02: on a Sunday morning and you're having your coffee and you're like, what is my life?
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the moment that you choose to change, right?
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's a choice to change.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: And you can make that choice.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for explaining that.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you doing that.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: What are some of the challenges of trying to run a business like this in Karatha?
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  SPEAKER_00: And but not only Karatha, the fact that it is such a mining town.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's definitely tricky in terms of people here don't value personal development, right?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: They or they're in their lives where they're focusing on their children, they're focusing on going out on the boat every weekend, and no one's really focusing on personal development.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: So it's hard in terms of that aspect, but also there's like a what do they call it, like a flip of the coin where I have found people here who really support me and give me opportunities.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I have had so much support, but the restrictions of, you know, there's not many spaces I can run my events here.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, luckily enough, the Carafa International Hotel was an amazing space.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: And there's not many people that live here.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, getting people into my events or getting people into my, you know, one-on-one coaching space or things like that.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes I get disheartened because I'm like, I want to make such a big impact on the world, but there's 10 people that live here.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, just really trying to focus on the social media side of things, you know, building my brand up on there.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: I also believe that you can change the world no matter where you are.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: Your success isn't defined by your postcode.
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  SPEAKER_02: So even though I live here, that doesn't mean that I won't achieve my goals.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, of course not.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I think with your attitude, it's it's positive.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: It you have to be like that.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: You have to realize that if you were just to contain yourself and, you know, succumb to the fact of, oh, well, I live in this mining town.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's only a handful of women that probably care about personal development themselves, then of course you're not going to succeed.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: But just hearing it in your voice, you can already tell that you're like, nope, this is how this is gonna go.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: One thing that I cannot stress enough, and I do say this to a lot of people on air and off-air, is the power of networking.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I know that everyone talks about your net worth is your network and all those other cliche statements.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: Some people don't like that word networking.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I can't think of a better word to use.
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  SPEAKER_00: The point that I'm trying to say is collaboration with other women, surrounding yourself with other ambitious and like-minded women, but also, you know, taking the time to go and put yourself or attend other events, and may that be in other towns as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tell me more about these women because I didn't know that there was the Pilbara.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Pilbara women's in business.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sam Casey and Tess run that out of Caratha.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's quite a new thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: They have conferences that they run every, I want to say every quarter, but I think we've done them a bit more frequently.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and what they do is they are the same.
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  SPEAKER_02: They are this like-minded women like me.
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  SPEAKER_02: We want to impact the world in a positive way.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: We want to, you know, have women in these empowering spaces and bring like-minded women together.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: And the conferences bring those women together to kind of inspire them on different topics.
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  SPEAKER_02: So one was the superwoman myth, which I got to speak out, and that was about, you know, being burnt out and how you can kind of turn that into a purpose.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Or the last one that they did.
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  SPEAKER_02: These two women, Tess actually has coffee catch-ups for women who have businesses in Karatha.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: So we meet on the first Sunday of every month, and we sit, and it was actually meeting with Tess who actually made me realize like she has a photography business, she has kids, she has a million things that go on in her life.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember just sitting there going, okay, if she can do it in this town and be so successful, obviously I can too.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I think being in that, you know, in that space with them and being with those like-minded women, you know, and there were like 10 women that came to the first one that I went to.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was like, okay, there are other women in this small town doing things, you know?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's really important, like you said, being in rooms with women who are doing the same things, like collaborating with them.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, if I hadn't have gone and collaborated with those women, I wouldn't be speaking on those panels that I do, women's pillow business.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um panels that we do.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's really important as well to network, to get into rooms with other women and just have those conversations.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: I feel as though ambitious women really want you to succeed too.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like I live by there's room for everyone at the top.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what the other women do as well.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't think that if you go to these networking events, you'll be like, you'll leave and think, oh, I shouldn't have done that.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that was terrible.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that was so bad.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: I shouldn't have done that.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm never going to one again.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think you'll go and you'll be like, wow, okay, I can do it.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like I can be empowered in myself as well because all of these other women as well that are working on the same goals.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: So Oh my god, I love that so bad.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: I could just jump and give you a hug.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Look, I am a massive advocate for that.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, you know, in season one, they would have heard that my very first episode where I talk about, you know, being bullied, being a bitch, being called out.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: The whole point of this podcast is called She Said It Out Loud and actually making an active change to be a better person.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: What you just said then was absolute gold, like pink diamond level.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I always use pink diamond because they are so incredibly rare, especially now that it's not shut down.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: So that's great.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but look, I think I don't know what it is.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like as if when girls are born, we have this tiny part of our DNA that as you grow up, I mean, it's you would know being a primary school teacher, it is evident in little girls.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: There are parts of little girls that they are bitchy, they are nasty, there's no reason for them to have this.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying all girls, of course I'm not saying all girl girls, but this is a common thread where as you get older, it's like you've got this natural reaction where if as you go into adolescence and then into being a young woman and you see other women doing things, jealousy comes up, envy comes up, like, oh my god, what is she doing?
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: She's got an event.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: How'd she get that so successful?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're always comparing yourself, this thing now.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a decade ago, I didn't imposter syndrome wasn't a term.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's thrown around, and parts of me like, I would never have that.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: There are parts of me where I'm like, oh my God, like, why am I even here?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Should I even be here?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, that's a fleeting moment.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm certainly not like that now.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: For the fact where I'm like, there are opportunities for every person out there, every woman out there, if they want to give it a go, and there is nothing worse than saying other women tear other women down.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: There is there's no point.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: So the fact that that just naturally flowed out of your mouth where you're like, I believe that you know every woman has the opportunity.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we c can all do that.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: If we sit back and we don't, you know, encourage other women, support other women, then what does that say about ourselves?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much for sharing that.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because you just naturally did that.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like I prepped you and said, Yes, you know, say this.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is just gonna flow naturally straight into my next question.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I do think I know the answer to this, but do you think your own personal opinion that women now, more than ever, are craving genuine, and I put that in, you know, absolute underlying red pen, genuine connection more than ever compared to like even a few years ago.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think, especially with social media, people are starting to see everyone's highlight reel and you know, oh my gosh, this person's doing this and this person's doing that.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: But I think what it's actually done is it's pulled us further apart from each other.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I see this in my in-person events, you know.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: I run online masterclasses, but I'll have a handful of people turn up.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: I run an in-person event and I have like 12, 15 women, and they all say the same thing to me.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, I just want good friends.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: I just want some good, genuine friends.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like as well, when you start to grow as a person or you've moved to a small town, what you really miss is that connection, right?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know, humans is like human nature is to just build community.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: We need to be in communities, otherwise we think we are dying.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: But I think women are definitely craving now, more so, that in-person connection, you know, that personal connection with someone that they can ring and go and get a coffee with, or they can, you know, go and go on holidays with.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like I have a couple of clients at the moment that because they're growing, though those friends that they did have are falling away because they're not the right people, which is okay too, right?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I speak about that on my page a lot.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: When you grow, those people do fall away.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: But then what you find is that people feel so isolated that they're now like, okay, where am I getting this personal connection?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: Where can I find these friends?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: And and that's why I said these events that I run, people will run, community events, or joining a gym or something is so important to fill that gap.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because yeah, people are definitely, definitely finding that they want that more now.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, for sure.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: They don't want to talk to people online.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I guess my personal opinion to add to that is obviously with the huge increase of AI, I'm a massive sucker where I'll start in you know, sending a DM on Instagram and I get many chat.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I work, you know, I've worked out that this is a many chat reply.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: But there'll be some times where there'll be sneaky ones where I just instantly think, well, this doesn't look like many chat.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: This person is actually writing back to me.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: So then I'll go backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards thinking that I'm having a genuine conversation with someone and it's just their AI bot.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is the this is the predicament though, because I get running a small business, this is how you generate leads.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is how you get people into your circle, and especially if you're wanting to make, you know, money.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: But my thing is with in-person events, you can't ever fake.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Fake's probably not the right word, because I guess that there probably is people that are faking being who they are, but I mean you can't fake human connection, expressions, body language, things that you simply are not going to get online.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: You going into a space, you're going to work out who your people are.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I like what you said before.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: No one is expecting you to be friends with everyone.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: That is, we talk about that you probably do in the playground, where there'll be some kid that'll come up to you when you're on duty, oh, such and such is doing this, I don't want to be my friend.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to make you be friends with this kid.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it's the same in adulthood.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be friends with every woman that you meet.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: You certainly don't have to be nasty to them.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: But it's important to find like-minded women, surround yourself with them.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: And there was somebody that I can't remember who it was off the top of my head, but there was a reel that came up on my page where they said, when we go to these in-person events, I want to know more about you.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: I want to know more about what makes you ticked and what's what does success look like to you.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because success looks different to everyone, but I don't want to hear you bitching to me about your friend.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to hear you bitching to me about who's done what.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's not what we're here for.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: I want to genuinely make a connection with you.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess that's why, you know, I said genuine underlined.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's so hard with AI, with social media, like you said, filters on everything, people only ever showing highlight reels.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: I get that lots of people are now starting to show, hey, look, this is the month of August.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: This month was fucked.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: I had all these things happen to me.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to acknowledge it, but just push it to the side because we're now going into a different month.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I get why people do that too.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because some people would resonate with that and go, holy shit, she's always shown up online as this bright shining light that nothing ever goes wrong, but here she is being vulnerable.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's so important as well.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: The last Pilboro Women's in Business panel that I spoke at, I actually spoke about, you know, my childhood, my traumas, and my career burnout breakdown, basically.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: And two women actually cried in the audience because they, and they said to me after, they were like, I just felt so seen in your story.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's so important that, you know, to share those moments as well.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: And like you said, when you people come to my events, they want to know about me.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: They don't want my coaching.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: They don't, they might want my coaching, and that's great, but they want to know about me and they want to know about how I got from A to B and how they can take from that, not take from that, but how they can, you know, take the knowledge that I acquired and implement that into their life as well.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's so important.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Don't just show everyone the highlight reel because so many women out there are probably looking at a highlight reel and going, okay, I'm behind.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm behind.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: But once you share, yep, I had a career breakdown, but you know, I built something from it, they're like, oh, okay, I'm in the breakdown right now, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, exactly.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: I like what you said about that because yeah, there's a lot of women that I've been currently following that have gone from having a career doing something and then they've just done a huge pivot and they're now it's like they're chasing their dreams.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it's great.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you for sharing that.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: I know I've mentioned it, I've dropped it a couple of times throughout this interview, but you're a primary school teacher here in Karatha.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, how long have you been teaching for?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I also want to know how do you juggle this with your small business?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because although I teach adults as my main job now, I do do relief teaching to keep up my teacher's registration.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: One day of relief teaching, I am like tired as all buggery.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: I am tired, I'm exhausted, I'm coming home with my grumpy pants on, as I like to call it.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: You're doing this full time.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: How are you not exhausted?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: But but first of all, tell me about primary school teaching.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I always loved working with children.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: I still do love working with children, right?
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: I just think that my purpose in life is bigger than the classroom.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's kind of the space that I got to in my career.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: But I love education.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: I honestly believe education should be free 100% across the board in any country.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but that's yeah, so I've been teaching for this is my fifth year in teaching, and then obviously it's the four-year degree.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, almost been in a decade, which is insane.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: Throughout uni, I was doing like what do they call it before and after school care.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I was still working with kids during that time.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: How do I manage it?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's a really good question.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: And for anyone that's interested, there is a um YouTube episode coming out on my YouTube.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: I've only just started YouTube, but I actually explain what I do on a Sunday to set up my week for success.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: And some people say to me, like, you're psycho.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, yeah, but it works.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm talking like my clothes are prepped for the whole entire week, down to socks and underwear.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: I have all of my work clothes out prepped in a drawer.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: I have all my gym clothes prepped, down to socks, shorts, everything prepped for the week because and then I have my meals prepped, as we've already spoken about.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I have a weekly planner.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I brought it with me because that'd be so fun to show you.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: I have a weekly planner, it's like a desk planner, and I plan out what I'm doing in the morning before work.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I wake up at 4:30, work on my business, and then go to work and then come home and work on my business, create content, all of that kind of stuff.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: What time are you going to bed?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like 9 30 to 30.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh God.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a lot, but that's okay.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: The bigger picture is there, so it's okay.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: I always say to my best friend, I'm like, I can rest when I'm a millionaire.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right now, we're not resting.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, but I plan everything out and I, again, preparation is key, right?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: I need to know everything that I'm doing every single day.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, I will wake up and go, what am I doing?
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what I'm working on, you know?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: You should always plan your next day the day before.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: So when you wake up, you can just grab the day and go, you know exactly what's happening because it reduces that decision fatigue.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: Most of the time, people don't achieve their goals because they don't know how to get there.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: And the goal is like so massive that it feels too big.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: But when you break it down, say for example, my in-person events, that's a massive thing to prepare, right?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: But when I break it down into smaller little steps, I can go, okay, book the venue.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: That takes me 10 minutes to do that.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: And when you break it down into smaller steps over time, it makes it not feel so large and overwhelming.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I just believe limiting decision fatigue and that helps with, you know, getting my clothes out ready for work.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like imagine if I had to come home from work and go, oh my god, what's for lunch tomorrow?
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't have the time.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have the time.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's how I kind of manage everything.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: I plan my day out to the minute.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's insane.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: But I guess that's what works for you, right?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: It works.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I've seen it work for many other business owners as well.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like time blocking is a thing, and it's actually scientifically proven and studied.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: Time blocking really helps.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: So what do you mean by that?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: So time blocking.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: So what you need to do is say, for example, one hour in the afternoon, my only sole focus is working on Empower You for an hour.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing else.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: So that's time blocking.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then when I'm at the gym, I'm at the gym.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_02: So your brain is only focusing on one thing at a time.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, when I'm at the gym, I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to do this, this, this, this.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: But I've really trained myself to just be present in that moment so that that gets done.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: And then I come home and I do whatever I need to next, whatever's on my plan.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, definitely preparation, figure out how big the goal is, break it down into smaller little steps.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: And this is what I say to people.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I do this on a daily basis.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: I have the skills to do this because I need to in my job, right?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like I teach seven-year-olds.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: I need to be able to teach them in smaller steps how to multiply four by two.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's what I need to do in my job.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: So it is quite a skill set, but it is easy to learn if you want to.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Man, you're passionate.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: I love that though.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I was I was literally gonna say, you're such a teacher, but you are, so that makes sense.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, what are some things though that you wish that you knew even five years ago, but regarding life priorities and health?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: Be around the right people.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, I love that.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Be around the right people.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: If you don't have people in your circle that don't believe in you, you are better off being off alone.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because they, your environment is going to prepare your mindset.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: Your environment, and I mean by the people that you're with, you know, that's saying the p people that you've spent the most time with, the five people that you spend the most time with, they are the ones that are going to, that's the people that you're going to be like.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: And if you look at your circle and you go, I don't want to be like any of these people, then you're probably in the wrong circle.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: And as well, I think as women, we are told we need to do X, Y, Z, X, Y, Z.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: I just wish five years ago someone had told me, just figure out what you want.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: Don't worry about what anyone else thinks.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: Figure out what you want and work on that.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because I can probably assure you, my business would be five years ago, probably would have started it.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: But I was so scared of what people would think.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was so scared about, you know, the fear of judgment and oh my god, am I gonna fail?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: And that's probably another thing as well.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, be okay with failing.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: Be okay with failing forwards, you know, because otherwise you're not gonna try anything.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, wise words from Josephine.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I like that.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're gonna we're coming up to rapid fire.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: And the what the first one that I want to ask you straight up is I mean, clearly you are confident.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think confident women do differently?
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: Confident women just have a go.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Confident women know who they are and know what they want out of life and try to achieve it.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Not try to achieve it, we actually just do it.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: This time last year, I actually couldn't even post a selfie on Instagram.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: And I tell this story quite often.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: And now, like you said, I, you know, am sharing about my bodist dysmorphia, my relationships, and all of that kind of stuff.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: But back then, I was not a confident person.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: But I just did the thing anyway.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: I did the thing that moved me closer towards my goal.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Closer.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: My first event, I was like, no one's gonna come.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not gonna sell it out.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be terrible.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: No one's gonna want to listen to what I have to say.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I ended up selling out the room because I kept showing up.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I think what confident women do is we don't know if it's gonna work out, but we just do the thing anyway.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so good.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what's something that women need to stop apologizing for?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Being themselves.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think too many women apologize for being authentically themselves.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I think as a society we put women down for being themselves.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that is something I want to change.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's something as a society we should change.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's a great answer.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, this is gonna be interesting because even hearing it in your voice, I'm like, do you even chill?
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: What do you do to wind down and relax?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do you even wind down and relax?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's something I'm definitely trying to practice.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: At the moment.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Do I wind down and relax?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like because I'm such an ambitious person, I'm like, oh my God, I can do this, I can do that.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: But it was something I really had to work on.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: Really had to work on, especially from where I've been in my professional career, practicing stopping and not being guilty for it.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I think chilling is great.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: But if you're chilling and you're going, oh my God, I shouldn't be doing this, I should be doing the washing, or I should be doing that.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's not resting and that's not chilling out.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you said that bit about not feeling guilty because for such a long time, I I mean, anybody that's listened to this podcast, I talk about it all the time.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: That I really struggle to chill.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's so it does not come naturally.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: The amount of times I've gone somewhere and I'm like, I'm totally gonna chill, and then I don't chill.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: I've only just started going to the beach, which sounds ridiculous because I live in Broome and Cable Beach is right there.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right there.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: And the only times I usually ever go to the beach is when I'm marrying someone.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I made it a point only like not even three months ago where I'm like, you know what?
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna hire a sun lounge from the Broom Beach Hut, that lady Ann, she's incredible.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Get an umbrella, I'm just gonna sit there.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: And the first time I did it, I was like, oh my god, like I don't know, it sounds ridiculous.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: But listening to the waves, people watching, just and at that point I'd only brought my newspaper, which so I look like an old nan on the beach, but I loved it because I loved the newspaper.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: The second weekend I went, so two weekends in a row, which I was like, who even is this person?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I made the fame mistake of bringing my phone.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I sat there chilling for five minutes, yeah, and then this huge wave, not literal wave, but this huge wave of guilt come over me where I was like, oh my god, what am I even doing?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: I could get so much work done right now.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I got my phone out and started doing voice notes for all the work that I'd done in my teaching job on the peninsula, where I'm like, I can write down who I saw, what I did, what are my goals, what are the things that are starting to become a pattern.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like my mind was just going racing, and then I got like 45 minutes work done, and I was like, oh my god, yes, I got 45 minutes work done.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is the greatest.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: But then in the next breath, I'm like, I didn't even chill.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's not chilling.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's successfully getting some work done, but I could have easily done that at another point in the day.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I actually went to the beach to chill, but didn't do that at all.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like five minutes doesn't even count.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I like that you said that, not feeling guilty about actively trying to even take an hour.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, 15 minutes is nothing to yourself to get your mind switched off.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's definitely tricky.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: Again, it's a skill and you have to be disciplined in it.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: Because otherwise, like myself, you'll end up burnt out.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thanks so much for sharing that.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because that was, you know, again, gold.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: Nuggets of wisdom coming from Josephine today.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now, look, I didn't even tell you this, but at the end, I always get somebody, whoever my guest is, and that's you today, to do a shout out.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: It could be to whoever you want it to be, but it's really just a shout-out, somebody that's either inspired you or helped you to get where you are today.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a really, really loaded question.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to give a shout-out, and she's probably gonna laugh at this, to my best friend Malia, Maria Mazzoli.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: She, to the point, flew up to Karatha for my first event, paid for her own ticket.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: She's a videographer, incredible videographer.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: She filmed my whole entire event.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: She edited all of my footage for me.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: She did all of my reels for me.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: And when you think about how expensive videographers are, you would know becauseona, right?
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: She did all of it for me for free.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I know she's my best friend, but like she didn't have to, right?
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: She flew all the way up here.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: She stayed with me for the weekend to the point where I had um this cup saga, which we won't go into, but she'll laugh at that.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: And she was going all over Perth trying to find these cups for me so I could have them for my event.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: And she brought them up here.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: She went to Officeworks for me.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: She was literally like my little personal assistant plus my videographer.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: So, but I she was the one that really made me believe that I could go on this journey.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: She said to me, Is the pain of being where you are worse than putting yourself out there on social media and starting a business?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what's worse for you right now?
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I think in that moment, I really sat in that and listened to her and was like, okay, I can do this.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think I need to give her enough credit for how much she helped me during that time either.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't give her enough credit for how much she does for me, how much she shows up for me.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: I know I can call her at 2 a.m.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: in the morning and she'd be like, what do you want?
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: But she'll stay on the phone for me for an hour if I need it, you know?
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's really important having those women in your life, even if you do have one like me, having one in your life knowing that they're going to be there for you no matter what, is what you need as well.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then to Tess and Dr.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: Sam for giving the opportunity on those Pilbora women's and business panelists and at the conferences and Tess just being there for me, honestly.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like I can message her and go, oh my God, the impulse syndrome is coming back.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, it's okay, don't stress, you know?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: And having that space in Karatha in such a remote rural town to bring women together, bring like-minded women together.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I truly believe if I hadn't have gone to that first coffee catch-up with her, I don't think I would have been as far on my journey as I would have.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was really inspiring.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, definitely a shout-out to those two women as well.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: All of them.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: And especially your friend who flew up.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's crazy.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, videography in its just, oh my gosh, even just, you know, reels and content and the fact that she flew up.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: I love everything about that.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: And that's really special that you've done a shout-out to her and obviously to the two other women.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna put all of their details in the show notes.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm definitely gonna get that from you.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for coming onto the podcast today.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you and I could probably sit here all day chatting through.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: But thank you so much for being here on the podcast today and saying it out loud.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate it.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening to She Said It Out Loud.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: If you took something away from today's episode, I would love to hear from you.
• 40:05
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• 40:08
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• 40:12
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