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Tasha Cobbs Leonard & Husband: IVF Struggles, Adoption Miracle, & Building Faith in Hard Seasons · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey family, welcome to the Love You More Show, and do me a favor.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I do hope you enjoyed this show, and I'm looking forward to it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's coming up next.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Let out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Next, on the Love You More Show, we had the idea we did the transplant and it failed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm questioning my faith.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm questioning if I believe what I've been singing about my entire life because people have been prophesying to me saying, this is God's will.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: you ask why I picked her.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: The reason why, like we know how great she is on stages and preaching, but she has and really incredible ability to find something in you, sharpen it, and make it great.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So you believe in Jesus' aunt there being cast?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I'm from Jessup.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Come, I'm gonna tell them about it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you made this call that you see it on you?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, this is also about it.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And we can't love nobody else because we haven't taken the time to explore what love looks like for us.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And so I'm challenging everybody under the sound of my voice right now.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Can I trust you to do that?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I know I can.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: a couple aka a squad that's literally like not only doing well in music and ministry, but they're actually taking the gospel to the marketplace with ownership, entrepreneurship, and I thought it would be good during this love month to make sure that we touch bases with some people.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: who actually on the ground working together and challenging the mindset of king them folks.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like a lot of you, I think all you can do is not even just a bad thing.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You just only think, I can only do it behind the four walls of the church.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Many of you think, he go to work.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I go to work, but we can't work together.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I think we're going to spell every single myth that's in your
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, you know her as a multi-stellar award winner as well as a dove winner and a winner of pretty much everything that you can win in music, but she's also a wife.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: She's also a mother and she's also a relentless entrepreneur and her husband is probably one of the nicest guys in the world.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And, uh, man, of course, a musical genius.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: But now he's also a pastor, too.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know if I should call him pastor or not because he's a cue.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know how that goes.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I should submit to a pastor who chose or make a sci-fi.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just glad.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just glad.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: We shout out to Tachukaw's leader and my brother, Kinnick, and then all of a sudden.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And what's up, fair week?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I have to learn a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: You could just call me Kinnick.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: We all have to have the label managed.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: This is doing whatever he calls me to do, man.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, it's such an honor to sit down with you guys because I've been watching for a minute.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just like, man, they just ain't stopping.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like it seems like we build one, we get a scale, and we move to the next thing.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And so, today on the Love You More Show, I want to really break the ice with music.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: We traditionally do music.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm a little nervous, because y'all really, really do music though.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't think I'd never really sat back with some real music, because I'm like, if we mixed this record right,
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but we like to break the eyes of the conversation with music and uh, the name of this record is called Clockwork check this up
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Until you'll know me overlooper was funny It's a better rain than you feel We both said I'd do But we both know the truth And like you even feel it too Because we don't take the threat
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  [SPEAKER_06]: The name of the song is clockwork, pick it up and be available now to put it on when you see this.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: But the scenario is counseling, right?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So there is so much that goes on in relationship that requires communication.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Has Tasha and Kenneth ever decided like you know what?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Is it getting unique?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go sit down with a counselor.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: like a ceiling where it's like now how do we get past this yeah and we both wholeheartedly believe in counseling and therapy as a couple and as individual because a lot of people you know traditionally is like I took it to the altar I gave it to Jesus and then the problem still lingers because there's no true communication so you believe in Jesus and they're being cast Oh absolutely yeah you know I'm from Jessup
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, you called that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They called that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You said, oh, no.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I certainly did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because guess what?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Be it on the phone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you help me?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I love, and we'll probably talk about this a little later.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But after my father transitioned to be with the Lord, one of the things my mother did that was so uncommon where we're from.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's our entire family went to family, grief counseling.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was something that she said got told her to do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, when I say entire family, all of her siblings, all of my dad's siblings, they are children, we would gather together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And even if I was traveling, I would do it virtually.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we did that together as a family was one of the greatest gifts for just compartmentalizing your emotions, the seasons of grief that you go through.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I believe she went outside of tradition, outside of what we had seen coming from a
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It just wasn't something, and even, you know, the years that we grew up, it just wasn't common, you know, we didn't afford it now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So back then, you just went to God at the Holy Spirit deal with and he will and he also uses people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we, we practice the same thing in our marriage, like literally we talking to somebody consistently, even, you know, and even if you're not going through some.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, it's, you'll play that game of Sims.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: We're like, it's some people when they play that game.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: They don't really tend to the sim until the thing turns red.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think it's good to maintain yourself before it gets in the red.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, don't wait till it's critical, let's keep, let's, you don't wait to, your car break down all minutes.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you do maintenance.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, sure.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, you guys, when you guys got married, like I remember about eight years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like seven, eight years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: They were like, touches about to get married.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, okay, cool, you know, you just kind of listening to what have you.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And it was like, it's this guy and I can't, I'm like, you told my the music do.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, that kind of makes sense.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I'm all about to make some beautiful music.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And as I done for the research, I was like, oh, God, like, I mean, she's about to be in a blinded family.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And like, for me, I'm already been in the blinded family.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And I understand how unique the conversations have to be.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: when you are bringing somebody into the fall into a ready-made quote on quote family I already what would those conversations like why did you choose her and then I want to pose the same question like why how did you say yes I mean knowing that you will come into a ready-made family let's talk blinded families yeah yeah
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I think probably one of the biggest challenges for us, especially initially, was the challenge of blending a family.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And for me, I think that I felt the responsibility of making sure that I bridge the gaps.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And I made sure that Tasha found her space and learned.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, because it wasn't, it wasn't an issue.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I learned to give her a grace to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I learned to give my children grace to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And I learned to give my children's mothers time to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: A part of it was because when I was married before, and so when I got married, I also had a bonus on it.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And so my son, my, my, me and my, it's not my biological son, but I, I never tell anybody that because he, my son, he, my son, but I had to go through the process of that and so I had, I had a unique position.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I knew how she felt and I was able to take the responsibility of making sure we took time and blend in it.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: it takes time.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: It takes time.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: It takes time.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Because you're a boss.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you know, you got a strong, like, but you have to have a strong personality to be able to take over the globe as dead as you have.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what you want.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what you, you had a daddy.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, some moms don't have a father.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: And they like, I mean, some ladies don't have a father in their life.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, um, I've got a daddy.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: So, so what, what, one, your, yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, for one, we're talking about a blend in our family.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say one of the major things that maybe say yes was how he loved his family and how he loved his children.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, people would look at that in a negative and oh, my gosh, he married somebody got three kids.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I love the way he loves his kids, and if he loves his kids that way, I know he's going to put me where God desires for him to put me in a place of priority, and that's what he's always done.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: From the moment that we met, even as friends, he has always been the calm to my storm.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I am just, I'm the raw, oh my God, what's happening?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's been blending the family, he found this interesting way, why is way to manage us all?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He would get involved when he needed to be, but he would stand back when he needed to stand back and allow us to grow our own authentic relationships.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was not always easy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One of our oldest daughter at the time was a teenager.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So she had more information.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She understands more about what blending a family means.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So creating the relationship with her was a little bit different.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I had to allow her to have her feelings feel.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: you feel be emotional about it, express it to your father, express it to your mind, but I'm going to find a way to show you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I love you just as much as mommy and daddy love you and there's no way you get out of it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we had those those moments and now she is just that's my baby.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, she
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think one of our, what we would encourage anybody who was in the planet family, you got to make it through those seasons.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they happen now, like, we got to 12 year old, you know, emergency, you know, you fucked up those seasons.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you blended or not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: These are going to have, and none of them are the same.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to, you got to go through the seasons with that one individual as they are.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I, I, I, a so appreciative for Kenny for allowing me to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I found my place, like,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You find your place when you first get in it feels like oh God, I'm in this moving vehicle This aren't we going everybody got they vibe they flow where do I fit in?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's in the Lord will remind me of who I am and then I started seeing the different giftings on our children That symphony is the star like she the one that's gonna take over the room when she walk in everybody on See her a lot of it's gifted with entrepreneurship Neumys the same way as a heart of a pastor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He loves people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's prophetic and I started seeing myself in each one of them
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I am the only one who can pour into this part of them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I found out, hey, that's why I'm in their lives, you can't break that.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like literally, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I think that I wanted to answer your question, too.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: You asked why I picked her.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: That, well, you just, like, let that go.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I can't let it go.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Ha!
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Come on.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: That is really described the reason why.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, we know how great she is on stages and preaching, but she has, and, um,
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  [SPEAKER_07]: really incredible ability to find something in you, sharpen it, and make it great.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And I knew I know that my children all have greatness in them.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: And I wanted to connect with and partner with for life.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody that helped me pull that out of my cage.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: She saw stuff in me when we first met that I never still to this day.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Sometimes still walking into like,
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: So when I saying you up speaking, because I'll be honest, like, you know, I've met you a few times, I was just like, man, such a great guy, such a support system.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: In my head, I'm thinking, I work with Joyce Meyer for a while.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know Dave, strong man, love to go golfing.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Joyce might be wrong, Ryan, and all that David's like, Tom Down.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: We don't have to do all of that.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm about to go play golf.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he's golfing does great man, but just really in his support of role.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then I say, you pick up this might.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then I say, you preaching, and then I say, you teaching.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just like, wait a minute.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: What can he do?
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then I watch online during, you know, pandemic or have you in here and you're like, okay, the Lord is using.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: How influential was your wife being by your side, giving you the confidence to go out and be some, that I know that I really, what you want to do has to be a call.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, what was that life for you?
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey family, Willie Mo Jr.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: here.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so sorry that I, no, I'm not.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I need you to subscribe to this channel.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Go ahead and subscribe.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: We are on our way to 300,000 subscribers and we cannot do it without you.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so now that to major flat out.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I wouldn't have been able to do it without that support.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just being able to have her, like, if you go back and watch some of those earlier videos, she was the biggest cheering section.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I would be like, what I just said was literally ridiculous.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, wait, you bridge it.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: But it gave me, you want bridge it.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: Go watch them.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: It literally gave me the fuel that I needed to get deeper and to continue to sharpen myself.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: And she played.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: See, do all that initiative like, you know, baby, you know, maybe you could try it like this next time we'll move this word right here, and I would just begin to to lean into that and not let my ego get in the way, but like, I can't take this guy's in my wife and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: which is what she is, she is literally designed to incute, take a seed and incubate it and produce life.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: And God placed that seed in me to speak his word and she took it and incubated it and helped me to be able to to to produce what God has done now.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean to see what he's done in our ministry to purpose places.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: Man, it's my blowing.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's my blowing.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is my blowing.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like you like what is God doing retain this anytime I see Kenny and God do something It is the most genuine.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, right you know something be crying and you'd be like with on cue Kenny is like a child at the feet of Jesus like oh my god
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it's so genuine bro like honestly so I watch nothing like y'all is real good So I'm like this takes like man bro proud of you man.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for that And just grateful for you know for what I see oh Hate to stop you Changed the scenery and the energy but you ain't been obedient.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know how I know because you ain't subscribed
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: You ain't left no comment, you ain't shared this with nobody.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do it right now, not back to the show because it's a lot of stuff if I can be honest in the kingdom.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes it just pisses me off because I'm just like, God might be wanting to try to do something uniquely new in you, but you're so used to a way of things being done, that you would rather go pretend than to be authentically like, oh my God, like what a kidney is like.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's the way the Lord is just gonna.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: I knew he would do.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, I didn't know nothing.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: And when do we get back to the point where it's like God shocks us and put us in August and we really become a fan.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I just think that's what this church represents when I see you guys on my love.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: uniquely meant uh for me like being a church my whole life was one thing but it was it was like one iteration of it like he used me through music and for this i never had the uh um i never had the comfort ability of being married to a method.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: like I never had because it wasn't like, you know, uh, when you started church, you gone, go started church, you do your worship nice and Bible studies first and then you bloom it.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, we had to start at a kitchen table.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it was already like no blueprint, ever.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: and we planned it, we literally planned to have, we're going to have to worship my kids.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we both charge kids, so we know how this is the formula.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you got?
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bottle studies, you do the worship night.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was practicing my homework for everything.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And man, you're going to hit on the pavement.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then the pandemic hit and got us like, no, I want you to do this now.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're like, we don't know how to do this this way, right?
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then really at our kitchen table, we started on Zoom.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it made us, I think it has this opinion.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: So you're out in Spartanburg.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: There was another church that you participated with in Spartanburg, and then God tells you to plant how difficult was it to have that conversation with that church, knowing that they, you know, they're there.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: You there, but God is telling you to plant there.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like in Greendale.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, so it's like sport and bird green view in that area and now you have to transition.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: How do you do that gracefully or do you just say, hey, just what God says, I got to keep moving.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, we are we believe in honor.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like literally from top to bottom, we all honor.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the conversations were had leading up for years.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: The hey, you know, God has called us to pastor and we'll talk about that later because he tricked me.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember I told you.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I asked him several times if he was a pastor and he said, no, no, no, no, I was the right answer when I said it, no.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So a few years prior to us pastoring, we were serving at Relentless Church, amazing group of people.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we had an opportunity to share with Pastor John and Pastor Abente.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we feel like we're called to lead.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things that we love is that leading that group of people and it was the worship ministry.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a huge worship ministry where we had to come in and lead this major group of gifted people here.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That season prepared us for launching our ministry.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we didn't know that going in, with the, hey, we're going here.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna help, we're gonna serve with our gifts in, you know, how God is.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, no, I needed you to be here, so I can show you how to manage.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: what I'm about to put into your hand.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that season was absolutely key for us and we'll forever appreciate all God.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so beautiful people.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: We see them sometimes in the grocery stores, and all of that, but it was no conflict whatsoever.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and one of the things that I think Spartan Berg on like this is a little bit Spartan Berg got its own low.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You guys own it.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all about it.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and when we decide it's a launch, it was something about the burden for Spartan Berg
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we, honestly, when he decided that, we had never even driven the streets of Spartanburg.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had, I don't know, when nobody from there, no, and it's literally about 40 minutes outside of Greenville, and he kept saying, I feel this burden for Spartanburg.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, we haven't even, we like to ride.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's give it a ride over the other.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got to get into a place and heard names on what city you'd do.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now I have to try to trick me with a few dollars, if you like, man.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: They give you 20 grand to come over this way, but I feel like the Lord is going to die.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got a sign.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're like, so, like, you know, I got a lot of people on this side of camera who don't necessarily speak Christian needs, may not have ever been in charge.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just like, the Lord speaks out a city.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, what does that look like practically to you?
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Is that like I'm praying and then I see something and say, Spartan Burger and my heart and my head is at a silent voice.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, because so many people right now are going through so much crap.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: And they like, Lord, am I planted in the right place?
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Am I outside of your wheel?
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, they'll come to a city with all these gifts and they should have moved here, but life is over here Like it was really tough for me to move to the city.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: I live in that because things are going good.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got a job there Like I mean not like a real job, but I'm working in French and you know, but now I got to go here You guys got a real job You know as much as I doing good on the artistry really feel good to be able to leave people and every month Everything is second care of now you got to go step back.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't faith talk about what that voice sounds like when it's like
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Or you said you weren't even there, like how did they have you?
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Man I wish I wish it was that yeah, but it's it's
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of like this, right?
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: You, you have just walked up on somebody and be like, uh, something, something, I feel something.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel something.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a lot like that.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, we started talking about the Holy Spirit and talking to the Holy Spirit.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: Holy Spirit is what's called it, help us.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: And so if you don't speak, uh, what you call it, uh, Christmas to Michigan, I like, can I borrow that?
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: You got it.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you don't speak that, it's that six sense.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I felt this tug to it like this, I mean, because in the same way you can roll up on somebody like something, mom, if you can be like, I don't know what it is.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: I like that, though.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I like that, and God was like,
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: felt him pulling us to this region in city.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's starting to make more and more sense now.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: But anytime, God, give you something he'd give you just enough.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: And he like, I'm not going, I'm not going to give you enough that you don't have to trust me.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because if I told you Spartanburg, you wouldn't have to trust that you can hear me telling you Spartanburg.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it said I was just teaching this Sunday and after after my man Thomas he said I got I need to see the nails I need to see your hands.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: I need to see the proof that he was here and Jesus was like I'm gonna show you the proof But then he said you you you are believed because you've seen
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: Danny follows it up he said, blessed are they who believe even though they had not seen.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you want to really get a blessing and follow a blessing, you believe God before he show it to you, before he put it in your hands, before it show up in your bank account, before your homeboy introduced you to you, you just trust God and say listen, I'm crazy enough to believe it.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're gonna look at me crazy, but I'm gonna build a podcast and call it love you more.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: And y'all just gonna have to believe me.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just like Abraham.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He told him, go to a place that I will show you.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will show you that you need to get up and start walking.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get there.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna let you know.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I got a chance to see you guys walk by faith with the people that you align your ministries with.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, one of which, a hip-hop artist, Nicky Monaz.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: I remember sitting in the meeting with the big weeks.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: And there's like, so, you know, what do you think of this, this, this, and this?
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, well, I'm gonna play this version.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it was like, well, we just have to, you know, we have to be careful with our audience.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I said, well, I just believe that if we're careful with this audience, we're gonna miss the audience that this record is called to.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we gotta go out there and go get them.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, how do you all follow Holy Spirit when you know that it's going to be a testy debate with people in your base crowd when God is calling you to pardon with people who don't necessarily Yeah, indulge in this culture in the way that many people indulge in.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not that they're not believers, but they may not practice the traditional cultural way that we do think.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a conversation that we have often just to make sure that we're grounded in the decisions that we make not just for music, but also in our entrepreneurial goals, you know, to make sure, hey, this kind of about us is all about him.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a lot of the times when we're discussing this, I make sure that I pray to hear God and the only thing that we can really say solid is.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: We patterned our lives off of what God demonstrated.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus walked the earth, he was a demonstration.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can admire some of the things that will lead us and I can admire some of the things that all of these other people that I really love what you're doing, but I can't pattern my life after you.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I patterned my life after Christ.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And literally, I was talking to Kenny and I was like, man, one of the last demonstrations Jesus gave to us before dying on the cross.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: was him forgiving a thief that was known as a thief.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I could take this moment and I can glorify so many other things, but before I do that, let me talk to this guy over here and everybody else is probably about to sit in the hell, but I'm almost feeling this last moment and say, today you're gonna be with me in paradise.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus demonstrated for me the uncomfortability that it is sometimes when you have this platform this stage, that was a moment.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a moment that we talk about and we'll be talking about in-reversing and appreciating for the rest of my lives.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jesus said, I know you're honoring me, but I'm about to show honor to him.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy that y'all probably saw him still stuff taking bread out of the market.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was all he was supposed to.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And with my last breath,
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to say today, you're gonna be with me and paradise.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So for me, it's about the demonstration that Christ did.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's so many Mary, the woman with the alabastabas, people sitting there like, you know what she do, right?
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's men in this room that know this lady.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, well, I may accept this oil.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's all that she has in her offering.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably greater than yours.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want to talk about that.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a demonstration.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He gave me demonstrations and I feel like two in the kingdom and a lot of times we don't want to talk about this But we cannot Say, okay, this is cookie cutter.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, love you more is what God gave you.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And your audience is not going to be people who go to church every week.
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's somebody else who has a podcast that's just for people to go to church every week.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, for me, I know what God has graced me to do.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know when I walk through those doors that I've been tried and I've been tested and I've been proven that if I lift my hands and say, God, I give my life to you.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you give me this platform and give me influence in this door, I'm gonna represent you well.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not about what people see on the forefront.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about what's happening in the background.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that God has got enough to cover people because the question is, okay, yes, you're being exposed to their audience.
• 28:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what about our audience being exposed to her audience?
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that God has got enough.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: To protect our children who might say, man, I just heard this song Blessings on Nikki album and this is this is the god mama been trying to get me to listen to I believe he's don't cover him I believe he will I believe that he has more strength there's more grace more glory for him to draw them to him the that scripture he says is if I believe that I'm a draw all mean
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm lifting him up to a platform of people that we just gotta be honest.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would not reach these people in my church.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna reach them even with my music.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't care how good and glorious we think we are.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a platform that she has that she's giving me trust and access with.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That I'm gonna say, man, I'm gonna lift up the name of Jesus even on this platform.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say it as name.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: You and did.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just in case.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just in case.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just in case.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: You didn't know.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, but listen, and I'm so serious that I'm getting right to you, but I remember when, like, my DMs are so filled with people that people just love.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like, the hip pop side of this, that nothing, because they're like, damn, that's pretty willy.
• 30:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I just seen a well-known rapper in the mall.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, hey, man, what's going on, bro?
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: He was like, oh, what's up, bro?
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I admire what you doing on the hip-hop side.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: I used to do shows with you.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like in this dude, he done been banned out Instagram a few times and he, you know, he making that money.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: He talking that talk and I said, man, I said, man, you know how you should be pretty willing.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now you should be in free lines.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: You used to being, he said, wait a minute.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Lay your body down.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna kick his ass and say, oh, and he was like, what you look good, boy.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: What you doing?
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: I said, man, I came out like to the Lord, bro.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: I for real.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and he just saw a cousin like, man, God, man, this is what he said.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: He said, man, I know God, man, I know God, man, I know God.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got some bigger for me.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Here goes the fruit of it all.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: three weeks later, I seen him doing charity work.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: He was not something Instagrammer.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was his foolishness, but he was at a church.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: He came with his partner who is also a pastor and he goes to the thing, no glory to myself, but I know that these were all steps to get him to the point where he could get in the building and then God can do the work.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's always my pride, my biggest problem when people, because I'm still middle to steal St.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Louis.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: When they talk about touch,
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: You the person who led me to something that I'm going to do.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I'd be cursing on the back end because you can't.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, wherever it is, but I just believe that many times we become judges too quickly instead of being really great fruit inspectors.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, give me some chance to make some fruit out of this thing, because God showed me he didn't show you.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so I appreciate you challenge in the status quo.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Then say in.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know a guy gave me and I know where it's supposed to go.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's that's confidence.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, how do you as a husband when you see some of these negative comments and all what y'all doing or whatever, how do you reverse the role when she's now telling you, hey, you can preach and it's all good and now you have to come back and say, man, forget them people.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've been to do this to another.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: What does encouragement look like from Kenny Ford Tosh?
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: I literally, just today, I didn't really tell her it is I literally had to stop myself from responding to something I saw.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think for me and it's something that we always talk about.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: First of all, we're not going to dignify it with a response.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: The second of all, we have to remember our assignment and our purpose.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: And this is what you accept for this, this type of call, right?
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: I loved that you use an example of Jesus being on a cross, talking to the thief because a lot of times we tend to hold Jesus hostage to the church, hold him hostage to a point where he doesn't get it.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: We feel like he just been on us and there's the forget about the great commission, right?
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, he said, go ye therefore, it's teach about me the only way that thief
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: Experience the love of Jesus is Jesus first of all had to be willing to go to a cross.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: You said sometimes you was like well, how do y'all accept knowing it's going to be some backlash?
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: We understand that there will be some people that just might not be there But we accept the fact that okay, we're gonna this cross is worth it Because this person experienced God and in a way that the church
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: could not get to them.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: That the full walls of the church couldn't get to them.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: So we accepted we'll open up an athlete's foot because there are some people that will come through this room and come through those doors, but they're going to experience love, they're going to experience Christ and they're going to experience his goodness just because they came in here.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: there are some people that will listen to a Nicki Minaj record or who will see our record that will never get a chance to experience the love of Christ.
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: If I hold them hostage in the church and the only way they get close enough is on the way they experience them is you got to get close enough and sometimes that requires you getting up on the cross.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's how real.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, how time you got to get on that cross.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and this is this is so like this is this is a really good intersection because you spoke about the athlete's foot um to make you make up his perfume is books is like you guys have diversified this portfolio like I ain't never seen nobody do I thought y'all was can't just be honest with you.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought y'all was at the athlete's foot.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like man.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought you got a jog and so
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I'm like, she got a jogging suit.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hello.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Captain.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: She and that's she and that's her stuff in a be an athlete foot.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I got it.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm saying, because you go all the way.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's something you say.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: She got a blast.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: She got something like, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I said, she don't want someone at least foot.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it was like a really good.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was like, what did they got?
• 35:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: How have you got?
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I get on the radio and he was like, man, the white was like, yeah, we got to get down there and we have to support them.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: I said, I'm gonna get down there and just like a black person, I'm gonna ask for a discount, right?
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, you got them shoes on the low low.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm about to go for the 30.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're not gonna do that to Tasha.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: I said, and how am I gonna do it?
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna go.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Can we please hit a testimony of how you guys were able to align with athletes' foot and have your own brick and mortar store.
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice tour, right?
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like nine to a couple of them, right?
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's just one.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's just one.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You like, don't think it's not a no prop song.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Prop.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Prop.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Prop.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love you.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love you.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Prop.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: No.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: So how did it happen?
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, good.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nes, we were just talking about Abraham, right?
• 35:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is one of those.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: When he's like, jump on out there.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to take care.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll show you where you get there.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Literally.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things where if we wouldn't know we're not, you know, you get so far you like, yeah, we come to fall to look back.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is so much ahead of us, but in, I, the short story is I had a designer that I will use out of Atlanta who was really close friends with one of the guys in corporate for the athlete's flip.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they were starting this program, the start program for up-and-coming entrepreneurs who wanted to get into the sneaker culture.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, Tasha, you know, the way you love sneakers, I think you need to do this.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think it's going to be a great opportunity.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, all right, girl, I'm giving him call.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you did just do.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I never call.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So about six months later, she never let it go.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: She called me again.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, hey, did you help me reach out to such such and I was like, nah, she was like, I'm about to call him right now.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Literally, while we on the
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he gets on the phone and he was like, man, we got an application with your name.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love because we feel that all the episodes just never followed up and he was like, you know, we really love the idea.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how would you like to move forward?
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just on the phone and you were talking about this early.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just talking to Noah.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you know, what's going on?
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do this.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going on.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shut up.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So before you know it, you're in this partnership, you're talking to attorneys, you're talking to, you know, people in corporate trying to figure out how you're going to make this happen.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: What city you're going to go to.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like the conversations were moving faster than we could say no, like we have this model that we live by like we've got to guess before we could think of a logical reason to say no.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Say that one more time, it's late.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think that would need to slow me.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't post, I need y'all to put it lower third of puts on more time for that.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: And put Tasha Cobb, Leonard, right there.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Say it one more time, y'all have this guy there.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, you've got it, yes.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He thought we could think of a logical reason to say no.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Before we think of a logical reason to say no.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because I think I know you in the comments.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Just put an A man or a number one in the chat.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because I think that's a real big moment.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because that's where we mess up so much.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the last time we people so many people have missed opportunities, which got us redeem of he's been stores time.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think some some of us have missed so many opportunities because we get caught in logistics of what God has told us to do.
• 38:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's his job.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: To take care of it.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you say?
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: If this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this is real, this
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: We all have a brand that we have in our store Nike, a deed of Jordan Brand.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's history.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go in this to make history.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know I was going into this, but that's how guy says she was like, you, you're being history books.
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know how you did it.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's really like, we signed on the dotted line.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We immediately started order and all of this merchandise inventory coming in.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have a, uh,
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would have a location we didn't know what was honestly we were just as green as could be we had no clue I I got a collection of sneakers, but I don't make me a branch.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like different world So neither of us had ever done retail so we had to do study, you know, that's what the Bible says If you want approval you go study
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we know that God had called us to do this.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we started studying the culture.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We started attending meetings, getting on, zooms, asking around, like, what is this about?
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And literally we had all this inventory popping up for probably a year and a half.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so this is where God has to make a miracle.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the point you got to start paying for this inventory.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is a totally different testimony that we, yes, so you're right.
• 40:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We kept the inventory in a back of the church building that we was in contract with.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: We were home to be on it.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's another deal.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: They called it now.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank the Lord, what can I need to look at too?
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Broken to our church and stole all of Kenny's keyboards.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: part of the testimony is how they go through just another set of double doors.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They would have seen all of this hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of sneakers.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're athletic wear.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the protection of that.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, we missed the sneakers.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the key was.
• 40:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But imagine.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, imagine that, and so that all of this is going on the same time.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talking about stacked on stacked, you're in the middle of adoption, we're in the middle of trying to close on our church building.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're in the middle of building, the accolese foot from the ground up.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: All of this at the same time, we're like, God, could you do one at a time?
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why are we doing everything at one?
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: Pick a struggle.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's all alone, right?
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's all alone requires, like, continue with faith.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: You say this, you say, it's one thing to have faith for miracle once a year, maybe.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: But when you got to believe God for a miracle, every week,
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also believe in him for this building and believing for, I mean, it's yeah.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like when we say once a week, literally because the inventory has started coming in a year prior, eventually you start getting invoices.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the invoices come every Tuesday.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not talking about $20.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about Nike, you order and fit the 60 different styles of shoes in every size.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You all do the math.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is coming every Tuesday.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, okay, God, uh, the savings is getting smaller.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not coming in the car.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've got to tell you.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not coming in the car.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not coming in the car.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: So we're not traveling.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: So you're not going to come home.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, okay, God, we trust you.
• 41:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: But look at this and look at this.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was where's this coming from?
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And literally one conversation, one phone call changed.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: all of that overnight.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a Friday, and I spoken with my business manager because we just turned it all.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't want to be in a place where we're anxious.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: We felt these anxieties.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, hey, we're going to turn it over to you.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have these conversations.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a Friday, and she called, and it was in voice literally, it's six figures.
• 42:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like at this point, you know, you're going to have to tell them we don't have it.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, OK, I'm going to have a conversation with them.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So she called, never heard back from her.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she was, it's, it's, it's do that Tuesday.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a Friday on, on that Friday.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got a phone call literally that changed our lives.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was God, just like that.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about the little things.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying we didn't answer the phone.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Say, you know what I'm saying?
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not that guy.
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just like, I don't know this phone number.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to get to this today.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I got it.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: God works through everything.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I called her and I was like, you call him back and tell them what have the invoice fulfilled on Tuesday.
• 43:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: She burst into tears.
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know, she's not a choir.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you good.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, she's like, I didn't tell you this.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: She said we were gonna call Friday.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Their response to me was for the first time in the history of this franchise, we're gonna go ahead and start doing what it takes to break this down.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I don't think the leaders are gonna make it.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, my response to them was, now my guys gonna come through.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: This was on Friday on Tuesday.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had enough to fulfill that invoice
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: One phone call, one miracle.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: So when we started talking about stuff like believe in God and trust his voice, like we live this thing.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: And we can't say it from a space of, oh, believe in God and it's going to be easy.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: Believe in God and you're going to have to learn how to sing in it.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like you're going to have to sit there and you're going to have to learn the lessons because what we learned is once he gave us
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: His word, like he don't just open all the doors, like he don't just send it to your bank account.
• 44:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, you have to sit there and go through the nose, you have to go through all the out of column losses.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: I call them lessons.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: You have to learn all the lessons.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: You have to go through everything that patient does to help you get to where you need to be.
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: So then when he does the miracle when he that phone calls show up, you are prepared
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: More love you more podcast, after this.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know all relationships start out beautiful.
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: The love is so intense in the beginning, until life happens.
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: No matter how discipline you are, temptation is everywhere.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we all have to fight with our internal monsters.
• 45:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: And sometimes, we fall into the trap,
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we hurt the ones we say we love the most.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: As you get older, love one's past away, and you left a little life with a boy that you never really anticipated.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: For some reason, people never talk about the parts and you that die when you love one leaves the earth.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's so easy to lose who you are in the midst of all it is.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: I lost myself, because I forgot to love myself.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'd like to take you on a journey.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: In hopes that you can learn how to love you more.
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Wow, to check out the first episode, log on to loveyoumore.com.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Meen.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't fumble the face.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got like three, two, three, right now.
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Don't fumble the fave or fumble it man.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, click something.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Whatever you want to put in the chair right now because I just feel like this like a pause moment because that testimony just spoke directly to somebody on the side of this camera include myself on this side of the camera because you may be at a cross road where there is no other way.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: you like at the end of this month, this is over at the end of this week, whatever it is is over.
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I believe that the word of that testimony just gave you just a little extra month that you needed to say, man, I'm going to see this thing through.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so I want you to just put it in the chat.
• 46:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: If that's you, just like, that's me.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Just put it in the chat.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's me.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's me indeed and we just declared the name of Jesus that what God did for the lineage that somehow some way here do it for you because he has no respect to person which means it can happen for you and I'm in agreement for the agreement that is going to happen for you.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I want to just kind of change to this
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: When y'all adopted their boy, my baby.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let me tell you something.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: When you text me, it was just like, hey man, you know, hey, this dude on the back in bro, he arrived for you, bro.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I hate because you my sister I love you, but he arrived for you.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like that man love you on the back in.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like he's gonna ask the questions and like, all right, like we're gonna figure this stuff out.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like he's a silent killer.
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like for real, like he's sniper.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so, you know, like trying to get the information of whatever, don't know how that thing went.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then you know how life goes.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And then it's like, she's adopting the child, you know.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the weird thing is is that you adopted your child in the same age when my mom adopted.
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I mean, right in that same age.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know, you know, what your story is, why adoption was your option or whatever.
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: But that story just,
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's just amazing to know that that child gets an opportunity to hang out with some really phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal parents talk about your adoption story and how that thing came about and how you guys were able to choose the option of adoption, why adoption versus anything else.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a dotion and I love this.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's started by baby boy.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just two now.
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of my friends, we know Travis and Jackie.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: People, Jackie came out of church and she said something that I'll never forget.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she was talking about God's will and his way.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was like a lot of times it's easy for us to set up God's will.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we don't often stick around to hear his way.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so,
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had gone through IVF, I mean, the story goes back.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: We went to Houston for a year straight every month.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We were flat at Houston to clear up the endometriosis in my body.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, payers of pain, I mean,
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: cycles were unbearable since childhood and there's just some things that I could not explain, but I always knew man, I feel like something is going on in my body and but people would come, this apart because we grew up in charge right, people would come and be like, God said you're going to have a boy.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, God said you're gonna have a baby.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so we're like, oh, it's God's will.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have a baby.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna do everything it takes.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna go IVF because that's what everybody's saying you need to do.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna, we're gonna go get this indomitriosis cleared up because that's what everybody's saying you need to do.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we had the IVF, we did the transplant and it failed.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am devastated.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm questioning my faith.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm questioning if I believe what I've been singing about my entire life because people've been prophesying and me saying, this is God's wheel.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how can it be God's wheel and this fails?
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: How can this be God's wheel?
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm dealing with this pain in my heart.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And literally three days later, had to get on a bus and go to Nashville to seek to record an album called royalty.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel royal.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you forgot about me.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've been set up because I've been telling people, we don't have this baby.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have this baby.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we went to the Nashville.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: We recorded the album royalty.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really feel God on this right now.
• 50:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We recorded the album royalty.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got back home.
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: My heart is still broken.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: My husband don't know what to say.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And at the time, he can't even deal with his broken heart because he's so concerned about mine.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so we go on through this season of questioning God.
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: People still come and tell my God, say, we don't want to hear it.
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be in a place where you just like, don't prophesy to me.
• 50:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like tell it to somebody else, right now I'm just letting me not believe.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like to hear all that, I'm gonna let it rock, right?
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were in that place like, don't tell me another word because guess what?
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: We did it and we, in y'all said it was guys, we'll and literally months later, a few months later, Kenny Caring to Me and was like, and I guess he had been in a time of prayer with God and he was like, you know, what do you think about adoption?
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I literally didn't hear my husband's voice.
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I heard God's way.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I heard God say, y'all heard my wheel, but you try to your way.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is my way for you.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: so much so that he would organize it and design it in such a miraculous way that it was undeniable.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we all see Asher now.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: People still don't know.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we didn't birth them naturally, but that's our baby.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You look like me.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You look like you.
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Walk like, you talk like every instrument.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, after we kind of designed the baby.
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: More perfect, you know?
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we tried it our way and our way don't work.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like when you do it your way,
• 51:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: The weight that I felt standing on that stage, ministry, royalty, even though that that album ministers just told many people because of the season that I was in.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a weight that I carried because I tried it my way.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, family, there's a link that is in this YouTube that you can go to.
• 52:05
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• 52:12
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• 52:13
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• 52:19
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• 52:27
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• 52:28
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• 52:31
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• 52:33
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• 52:36
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• 52:37
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• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and the testimony about Asher, so we decided to go through the adoption process and I believe that's when any text you, we love your testimony.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: We think it's just beautiful, so encouraging to so many people.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's rare in our community that you see it, you know.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we, we can any text you, we pray about it.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: We reached out to a Christian agency.
• 53:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our agent was just angels from the Lord because though it's different, it's still labor.
• 53:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like all of the things that you have to go through is labor pains.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's involved You know, there are so many people who have gone through this process that we were through in two and three years later still waiting Yes, you know, still trusting and having faith But guys, and I'm gonna I'm gonna show you this and such a miraculous way that you'll never be able to deny that it was me
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like so we went through it, she would encourage us to talk in the middle of the night, just send us a prayer.
• 53:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we finished all of the process, we sent our paperwork into four agencies.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what, a day after we did it, she was like, this never happens, I've never seen this in 20 years of me doing this.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: She said there was a mother that walked into an agency in Louisiana.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: and she wants to put her baby up for adoption.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And everything she's asking for, your family fits the bill.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, can't make any promises because in my line of work, this has normally taken months to two or three years.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but we're gonna trust God.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, she said, Kenny, I feel this I really feel like you should sit down and write a handwritten letter to the mother about y'all's story and how you believe that this son, this boy,
• 54:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: fits into your family and that this is a guy thing.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Kenny said, I don't know, he wrote a handwritten letter.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We screenshot it and they sent it to the mother.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: There were seven families that she had to choose from.
• 54:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the next day.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's the agent calling and said, I've never seen this.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: She said, the mother chose y'all.
• 54:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had an opportunity to sit with her and talk to her a couple of times and during one of those conversations, Kenny asked her, you know, what was the one thing that made you choose us?
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, when I read your letter, the baby started kicking, she said, I didn't choose you, he did.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: like literally, and in three days, our life changed.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ashah was here the next month.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So all of that time, we were going through the labor.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We went, I went through nine months of labor.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It just didn't look like everybody else's.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: And you know what?
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: God, you would think.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: Once you get the thing in your hand that you've been faith in for, that that will be the end of you having to have faith, but even through all of these process, as I was just thinking about this, like even after we had him in our hands, we had to go several days in faith that some other necessary steps were happening.
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it was like, you mean, even though we still got this in our hands, they can still change their mind.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Dean, we had to be very careful over the next year about how we exposed him because, again, we got it's a faith thing like what, too, is done and that's like my bigger thing, like as I said on Capitol Hill, to like change these laws, like I'm sitting in there with senators from all across the United States of America.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I just would always feel the Lord like I want to go in and be this very educated guy because I went to university of Mississippi, but they They don't get into the minutia that like they have this bird's eye view of how things are And I'm just like I'm bringing real numbers to the table.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, yeah We talking about all of that but do you know that like 900 and 63 kids right now in a 40 mile radius of where we're sitting at talking just like this is
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like they literally don't have a house and do you know how hard it is right now for a parent to have a child in their home And still have 30 day 90 day a year that a parent gets an opportunity.
• 56:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: What does that do to a mother's heart?
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, right like I had to sit down and ask my mama and I love my mom This was shook me till let's go back when you said Louisiana it was like wow like my mama's from Louisiana like I'm from Louisiana
• 57:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like so it's kind of unique but here's the thing like what does that do to a mother's heart I asked my mom I said mom what if I told you it cost up for 20 30 40 thousand dollars with all of the process that you have to go to like what would I have been and she said in the most humble Louisiana voice she said was she
• 57:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I've been sitting right up the floor because I don't want to have no money.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's no what I sold up when you, I'm sorry, I love when they had it.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so like it's it's it's my life's mission now to change it and you know for the ashes of the world, the willys of the world, like what this little boy about to do for the for the world, like it ain't even so much about the like, like it's what's in him, like we're still there here.
• 57:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like he's he's going to be the guy that people look at like why I like you went to what It's like you're almost a beautiful experience like I just believe guy right now is raising up adoptees To have beautiful stories to shift the narrative of what this name looks like and I'm just blessed to be a part of the first part So when I see you I'm like
• 58:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, I'm so glad you're going to be next cause you're tired when some time, but I was glad that you have other opportunities to see young men and women come up through this adoption system and they're extremely successful.
• 58:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so I publicly just want to honor y'all, man, to put a new narrative in the earth, you know.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: to for you for you, Kenny, not being selfish and saying, well, we already got some children, we don't, you know, we tried everything else, we paid the money, we did that for you to go that extra mile for Tasha, you saying, hey, like, you know,
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: You ain't keep it private.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: The boy look just like you.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's just going to work.
• 58:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: It is what it is because I'm trying to stop mama's and daddy's from making this a bad thing.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like mama told me, she said, look here.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like daddy said, look here.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: You see them on the kids in this neighborhood.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: When they parents got pregnant, it was a surprise.
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Some of them parents don't tell them I told you, but hey, they didn't even want them kids.
• 58:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: We said, but when we got you, we chose you.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: We chose you.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: We took our time.
• 59:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: We did different requirements.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: We put our money to the side.
• 59:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, I'll stop drinking once I got you, cause I know you deserve better.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: He said, so don't you never forget something that you were chosen.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Until this day no matter what the plight looks like in my life because my father told me, I was chosen, I can walk in any room and feel like I'm the biggest man on campus because my daddy reminded me that I was chosen and you know, so I can be chosen in any opportunity I walk in.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's what you guys give to ask.
• 59:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: You give him a life of choice because he's chosen.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I really, really thank you.
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why.
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm glad you got out of that kid.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's a year, about 10 more seconds, man.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just like, I'm going to be crying in front of the two.
• 59:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: You make y'all cry out of your shoulders.
• 59:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Katie, I messed up the moment again, didn't I?
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I made a joke.
• 59:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: I made a joke.
• 59:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: He always tell me like, man, you always joke out of the moment.
• 59:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and to get out of that.
• 1:00:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Coming up here towards the end of the year, we're gonna have our first annual adoption awards on the reason it's gonna be a, and I'm just casting vision because it's still in the incubator stages.
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna do it in my hometown, St.
• 1:00:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Louis, Missouri.
• 1:00:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not a place where a lot of people will actually fly in, but hopefully we get an opportunity to change it.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we're just gonna honor parents who will adopt children, and we're gonna do something really big.
• 1:00:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm gonna invite you guys early in the end of the game because I wanna take the time to honor you guys.
• 1:00:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, really use the platform to say, man, if Tasha with all the stuff she got on, going on, and Kenny with all the stuff he got going on, can make that humble choice to make good decision for a young king named Asher.
• 1:00:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: like anybody with a heart of gosh, she can't do this because I don't want it to be taboo in the black church no more.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: When you just got to change that when they bring me on stages and no dish you spit to my Caucasian partners, I'm a bridge between CCM and gospel is cool, but I just want to see more black faces in those rooms who have a story of hope.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm tired of being a talking black guy.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's good.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I love that.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll be there for sure.
• 1:01:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So let me put a ball in this thing.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think you guys have ever seen me this emotional on my show because it's usually pretty joking and I did my best to put as much humor in it as I could but sometimes you know you get those moments in your life where you realize you've met some people that gives you a spirit of hope that you that you need in the moment and I think that's what I personally experience and I don't necessarily know what you experience on the other side.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: But my friends that you heard something that really touched your heart.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: them for being really transparent because sometimes when you see people winning awards and standing on these stages, you know, we forget that the Bible says that the just shall live by faith.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of terrible that he didn't say the just shall live by faith one time and never have to step out on faith again.
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: It just doesn't read that way.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: That means that's a perpetual cycle of faith, the faith, the faith, the faith.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it may be a million dollars in the count on Tuesday and God makes you invest in something that may take the five million out that you didn't have at first just so you can trust them It may be totally great health on Wednesday and you get a report on Friday that you are dealing with something that that doesn't make you so healthy It takes photo to help them fit fate and believe that your health is gonna be okay
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, everything may be good in your family one day and then you go through a crazy situation and you find yourself alone just to have crazy faith to get up again.
• 1:02:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, I don't necessarily know where you are right now, but I do know what's required for you to please God and what's required is faith.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's some time faith is just so uncomfortable.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: And maybe right now you like Willie, I'm so uncomfortable.
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want to congratulate you because God is giving you an amazing opportunity to watch faith work.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're in the hands now, you like yo, I can't do it without you.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Here's the thing, God is going to show up.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I know you haven't heard this so many times, but you know I ain't like that.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I just feel in my spirit if you've been connected on this show, the entire time that God is going to show up.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: this time in a way that you don't expect.
• 1:03:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So leave your options open.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like I know to the happen for them this way, right?
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: But it's gonna happen for you a different type of way and you gotta be excited about it because God is giving you an opportunity to become a fan of Jesus.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right, you've been a fan of your own words.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: You've been a fan of what he's done for others.
• 1:03:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: But he's saying, this time, this moment is designed.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: But once I get you through this, you'll be able to say, it was only Jesus, bro.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I rock with Jesus, like, it's Jesus.
• 1:03:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so when those people be running crazy in church, and you sit in the back and you think to yourself, these people are crazy.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: during the crazy club.
• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Does this time in the room because he's about to do something special in your life?
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I hope you feel that in your shana, not?
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: I appreciate you for watching.
• 1:03:55
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